Work Programme on BBC Radio 4.
Some charities say they are pulling out of the government’s Work Programme for the long-term jobless, claiming the payments received are inadequate.
The Single Homeless Project in London is the first to speak publicly about its decision to leave the £5bn scheme.
Poor Poor charities.
The radio programme was good as far as it went.
But I imagine that Martin on the Radio, or Gissajob as he is here, would have more to say about what this government measure actually means.
I will cite a case of my own.
At SEETEC I was on one of these ‘courses’.
We were sat in a room and told to ‘job search’.
That is every day. Five days a week. With time off for a fag-break.
As we ordinary folk do we formed a little group and used to natter every day.
One was an Evangelical Christian woman from Cornwall, one a beautiful mixed race woman with four kids from the Estate just next to mine, one a big Suffolk girl, one a mad Tory, who came in with a copy of the Spectator.
And then there was me.
The SEETEC ‘trainers’ used to come and shout at us because we were friends.
They would say “Get out of your comfort zone”.
They had a bell and everyone was meant to clap when somebody got a job-interview.
As we complained about not actually getting any training they employed some Essex bird with a MA in psychology to ‘train’ us.
She gave us ‘courses’ where we got sweets and (once) lumps of carrot (that was the one on ‘healthy eating’).
Once she cited the Pareto principle.
She gave quite a lecture on how selecting the best was the way to go.
That really chuffed us.
As I have a degree in Sociology and Politics I merely pointed out that Pareto was an Italian fascist and supporter of Mussolini.
But then us working class lot are thick and our views don’t count.
Utterly insane.
wishface
March 30, 2012 at 1:52 pm
quite appropriate for a work programme employee to quote a facist – probably employee of the month!
anon
March 30, 2012 at 4:14 pm
YOU LOT: GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE
SEETEC TRAINER
March 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm
nein
super ted
March 30, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@seetec trainer:
My ‘comfort zone’ is volunteering, investigating self employment, self study/distance learning and of course jobsearching and minimising the negative impact of the work programme and the jobcentre on me in general. When i need help the jobcentre or their associates are the last place I go! I like I think many of the other jobseekers who post here have learnt through experience to avoid the jobcentre and their associates as they are far more of a hinderence than help.
I’d suggest that you get out of your comfort zone and accept that the vast majorety of jobseekers are looking for work but that the main reason they dislike your ‘courses’ are because they are rubbish, patronising and worse than nothing at all. Lots of people don’t have jobs because the politicians and some bankers screwed up the economy and continue to do so. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual failure and if you think it does then you are simply ignorant, bigoted or a mixture of the two.
There is of course also the issue of disgusting policies like workfare and generally making things as rubbish as possible for the poorest and often most vulnerable in our society. The path this country is going down with theses sorts of policies (perhaps in particular those evil policies that put disabled peoples lives at severe risk) leads to a very scary place that ends in facism. What sort of society do you want to live in; I certainly don’t want to live in the sort of society that these sort of policies are creating!
anon
March 31, 2012 at 12:06 am
super ted
March 31, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I can go one better than the Pareto principle: whilst on a Sencia course a few years ago, one of the smug tutors waffled on about the Gestalt theory for several minutes to a room of somewhat bemused claimants. Quite how such an arcane idea was useful in obtaining work was never elaborated on.
Trevor
April 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm
True.
It’s all very strange.
As somebody with a bit of an academic background, as well as a working class one, I find this kind of half-baked stuff really annoying.
Andrew Coates
April 2, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Absolutly! But not as annoying as being obliged to draw seeds growing into plants!
or (from my own experience) a day being harangued by self styled master practioners in Neuro Linguistic Programming.
Gissajob
April 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Neuro-linguistic programming shamming.
From Wikipedia:
‘According to certain neuroscientists,psychologists and linguists, NLP is unsupported by current scientific evidence, and uses incorrect and misleading terms and concepts.’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
JBS
April 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Slight change of subject.
Atos have been reprimanded.
See the following link:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/political-news/benefits-assessment-firm-made-misleading-claims.17244664
About time. There can be no doubt about what would happen to any benefit recipient alleged to be making misleading claims!
Tobanem
April 7, 2012 at 10:29 am
FAO Ipswich Unemplyed Action Webmaster.
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By the way, why is your website taking so long to load up? It takes an inordinate amount of time to access your site these days.
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I’m sure there will be plenty of that shortly!
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