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Local Impact of £20 a Week Universal Credit Cut: Ipswich Onwards…

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Yesterday East Anglia Bylines carried this story:

Universal Credit cuts threaten Tory MPs in the East

Stephen McNair

Extracts.

The government’s planned cuts to Universal Credit will hit one family in five in East Anglia. Will the region’s Conservative MPs dare to back the Chancellor’s plan?

What about East Anglia?

In East Anglia 320,000 families receive Universal Credit, more than half of them with children. Forty percent of these claimants are in work, but not earning enough to meet the minimum needs for basic living. In every constituency more than 10% of families are on Universal Credit, and that percentage rises to over 25% in five of them (see table below). So the blow is going to be felt right across the region.

Will our region’s Conservative MP’s back the cut?

Thirty nine of the region’s 41 MPs are Conservatives, and the Party has traditionally been opposed to generous welfare benefits of any kind. However twelve of the region’s Conservative MPs have majorities smaller than the number of Credit claimants.  At the extreme, in Peterborough Paul Bristow MP has a majority of only 2,580, but 18,360 voters on Universal Credit.

So the Universal Credit cut is a real threat to at least ten of the region’s MPs, especially in Peterborough, Ipswich and Norwich North, where the Conservatives hold the seat with narrow majorities.  

Note, one would hope so, but people in working class Peterborough have already voted for those opposed to their own interests.

In Waveney, Peter Aldous has already written to the Prime Minister calling for the cut to be cancelled.  It will be interesting to see how large a rebellion there will be on the government benches when the issue comes to Parliament. Will our MPs be prepared to inflict cuts on such a large proportion of their own constituents, or will they swallow their traditional principles, and vote to block this cut?

Note, it is to be very much doubted that (many?) others will follow, though some might. The hard right Ipswich Tory MP Tom Hunt is more obsessed with fighting ‘cultural Marxism’ than standing up for constituents on Universal Credit.

One can hardly avoid mentioning that the MP for Suffolk Coastal, which adjoins Ipswich is this figure is the DWP Minister carrying out the brutal cuts…

Where will the cuts bite hardest?

The constituencies most affected are listed here. All are held by Conservatives (we highlight one..)

ConstituencyCountyMP2019 MajorityFamilies on universal credit or working tax creditsPercentage of families on universal credit or working tax credits
IpswichSuffolkTom Hunt5,47912,20024.3%

Yesterday the Ipswich Star published this:

‘Massive impact’ as 58,000 people to lose £20 a week in benefits

Citizens Advice has found itself helping many more younger people during the pandemic, with Mrs Harrison saying the “jobs they were in are no longer there”.

She has argued that a “delay would be ideal – especially to try to get over the winter period”.

Waveney (Note, this includes Lowestoft which has a large working class and some very poor areas) MP Peter Aldous is one of those calling for the £20 a week uplift to be made permanent.

Today, local press is doing its job.

‘Forced to live off £8.30 a day’ – man’s fear at impending benefit cut.

The princely sum of £8.30 might buy you a cinema ticket, a meal for one at a restaurant or a couple of ready meals from the supermarket.

But one Universal Credit claimant from Suffolk is facing up to the harsh reality of a life where that will be his daily budget – as he braces himself for a £20 a week cut to his benefits.

The claimant, a young autistic adult with chronic fatigue syndrome, was an electrician before the pandemic and lost his job in a kitchen as the Covid crisis started.

Since then, the man – who has asked us not to use his name – said he has been “struggling on the benefit system”.

This is a familiar story to our readers,

He says this is “barely enough as it is” – but with the government set to remove the uplift on October 6, the claimant is now asking: “How do they expect everyone to survive?”

“It will cause devastation to so many families across the UK,” said the man, who is one of 58,069 people in the county claiming Universal Credit.

“I can barely afford the things I need with the £20 uplift.

The details makes it worse.

When it gets reduced, people will be forced to live off of £8.30 a day, roughly. This is disgusting and cannot be allowed to happen.”

The claimant also argues the the DWP’s removal of the uplift contradicts letters he has had from the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which warn of the continuing dangers of Covid-19.

“How on one side can the DWP cut off financial support to the most vulnerable people in our society, with the excuse of ‘this was only a temporary increase because of the coronavirus pandemic’, and then on the same day the DHSC can send me a letter saying that Covid-19 remains a threat?.

“So the DWP is saying we don’t need to provide you extra financial support, but the DHSC is saying that the virus remains a threat? It is so ignorantly stupid and a contradiction.

“The Covid-19 pandemic is very much still happening. Those who are vulnerable and disabled in our society still do not feel safe to return to normal.

“The DWP cannot be allowed to get away with this.”

Hats off to the Ipswich Star and the East Anglian Daily Times for the report.

This story can be reproduced across the country, and it is not hard to imagine our contributors having worse experiences of living on existing benefits. Not hard because many have written about it.

There are of course those on Legacy Benefits who never got the uplift.

UK Government urged to scrap plans to axe £20 Universal Credit increase.

ITV.

Ministers from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have called on the UK Government to scrap plans to axe the £20 increase to Universal Credit and instead make the higher rate of payment permanent.

In a letter to Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey, they branded the change, which is due to come into effect in September, as the “biggest overnight reduction to a basic rate of social security since the modern welfare state began, more than 70 years ago.”

Ministers from Holyrood, Cardiff and Stormont raised concerns about the impact the reduction would have on poverty.

Written by Andrew Coates

August 30, 2021 at 5:29 pm

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  1. Andrew Coates

    August 30, 2021 at 6:26 pm

  2. And when all’s said and done, the extra £20 only brings the Benefit closer to what the Council of Europe said it should have been SEVEN YEARS ago!

    Meanwhile, so-called “legacy” Benefits like JSA never even got the increase throughout the pandemic AND was frozen for four years not inline with inflation, so effectively was cut even further.

    trev

    August 30, 2021 at 6:39 pm

  3. “Food banks bracing for ‘busiest and most difficult winter on record’

    Looming end of Universal Credit uplift and furlough scheme said to be creating ‘sense of foreboding’”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/food-banks-covid-universal-credit-b1910399.html

    trev

    August 30, 2021 at 8:09 pm

  4. “Tories return to ‘nasty party’ image over sick pay and benefits”

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19471161.snp-mp-tories-return-nasty-party-image-sick-pay-benefits/

    trev

    August 30, 2021 at 8:33 pm

  5. This what the JCP District Manager for East Anglia had to say about the unemployed. What she fails to mention is that a lot of these jobs are part-time, temporary or zero contract. She also fails to mention that the so-called support offered by the Jobcentre is only short term. What happens when said support is withdrawn – no mention of that! Oh and I live in one of these Fenland villages by the way. It takes about ten minutes to drive to Ely (five miles away) from where I live – if you have a car. If you don’t then it can take an hour and twenty minutes, factoring in the time it takes walking to and from the bus stop – just to make a five mile journey!

    ‘YOU MUST NOT WANT A JOB NOT TO HAVE ONE’ SAYS JOB CENTRE BOSS
    https://www.elystandard.co.uk/news/jobs-galore-in-cambs-if-you-want-one-8244578

    There are so many jobs available in Fenland and East Cambridgeshire “you must not want a job not to have one”. 
    That’s the conclusion of Julie Nix, East Anglia District Manager for the Department for Work and Pensions. 
    She accepts it is probably easier to get to work if you live in Ely rather than Wisbech and the Fenland villages but even then, help is available.  
    “If they really want a job and use transport as an excuse for not taking it, then we can help there too,” she says. 
    Her department is offering incentives such as a moped scheme, bicycles, bus passes or even train tickets to get people back into work.  
    “If I am honest, we can get them there if they want to,” she says. 
    Ms Nix says vacancies are piling up across a whole range of businesses in the area. 
    “If you and I spoke to all the industries struggling to find seasonal or full-time permanent workers you would be amazed at how many are,” she said.  
    “Our labour market is exceptionally good at the moment.” 
    Hospitality, social care, logistics and agriculture “are all desperate for people to take up their vacancies” says Julie. 
    She says once the country fully re-opens after the pandemic, it will be a case of matching people in front of employers who want the skills they have.  
    If pre-employment training is needed, says Julie, that too can be provided.  
    For those who have been out of work for some time, she feels the best advice is to get people trying out new jobs through trial runs. 
    “My advice would be to get them to try anything – a week’s taster or work experience – give it a go, you won’t know until you’ve tried.” 
    She says she always recalls the young man from King’s Lynn who wanted to be a motor mechanic, trained in it, but then decided it wasn’t for him.  
    He opted to try several different ‘taster’ weeks and then, she says, he went to try out Tulip, a major Lynn employer. 
    “He didn’t know that first day he was going to find he wanted, loved and stayed,” she says. “He’s now a senior manager there.” 
    Job Centres are encouraging ‘kickstart’ a flagship programme to enable people to work for an employer for up to six months, for a minimum of 25 hours a week.  
    During that time, they get paid the proper rate for the job whilst the employer is given a training grant.  
    “What we have found most are being taken on in that business afterwards,” she said.  
    Job Centres are back and fully staffed but Julie says one issue that people are turning up for face-to-face interviews. 
    She hopes that will change “since employers coming in for interviews is where workers get the chance for a face-to-face interview which is always the best way to do things”. 
    She says they are working on way to ensure people feel safe to return to Job Centres to seek employment. 
    Some of the jobs available locally include: 
    Greene King looking for 10 chefs for various pubs in the Cambridge, Royston and Ely area.  
    Ely Pizza Express – recruiting for kitchen staff 
    Wisbech Country Court – looking for two part time housekeepers and a weekend receptionist for Lyncroft Care Home  
    Wisbech KFC – jobs for three team members and a cook. 
    Peterborough Cards Direct – the new store will create 10 jobs  
    Across the East of England, the number of people employed is at 3.08 million – up 14,000 on the quarter and up 31,000 on the year.  
    The employment rate (aged 16-64) is at 78.1%, the highest employment rate of all regions in the UK – up 0.4%pts on the quarter and up 0.8%pts on the year.  
    The number of people unemployed is at 127,000 – down 3,000 on the year.  
    The unemployment rate is at 3.9%, lower than the UK average of 4.7%.

    jj joop

    August 31, 2021 at 6:37 am

    • @jj joop- Here we see again the cult of Work Worship, and the acolytes of zero-hours employment. It is easy to make these smug prouncements from a 40K management job, (with pension) in Ely. But I wonder how keen this woman would be to undertake this sort of work ? Most of it zero-hours, difficult to access, low-paid and physically demanding.

      Jeff Smith

      August 31, 2021 at 6:04 pm

  6. A true mark of men is what they do for their fallen.

    If you liken welfare to war, this government in this struggle dont turn back but throw you a few rounds while telling you to keep one for yourself.

    So is it any wonder why this government dont shed a tear at any death as a result of welfare let alone the amount todate.

    This governments interests in its people escaping poverty is purely just enough to cancel out what they get in welfare. Whether you work or not, the same amount still leaves you exactly where you are.
    This government wants people regardless if working to take out loans/credit and get into debt and not ask for better nat min rates, better tax and NI allowances and cheaper housing.

    Doug

    August 31, 2021 at 6:42 am

  7. Challenge of week

    Can anyone find loads of articles prior to the outing of vaccines causing clots about unvaccinated people with covid having clots as a byproduct.

    I genuinely ask as i dont remember such articles and would like to know and see if and how many existed.

    Doug

    August 31, 2021 at 6:59 am

    • No but the latest evidence is that Coronavirus itself causes significantly more blood clots than the vaccine. Proof then that you’re better off being vaccinated.

      Blood Clot Risk Much Higher From Covid-19 Than With Vaccines

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-26/blood-clot-risk-much-higher-from-covid-19-than-with-vaccines

      trev

      August 31, 2021 at 9:39 am

    • going back over a year ago i can not find 1 report of covid causing blood clots in 2020 so more msm bollocks as this only started to be reported after the vaccine was rolled out.

      and if you look a virus does not cause blood clots and never has, or they not updated the wiki page yet lol.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombosis

      superted

      August 31, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    • https://hms.harvard.edu/news/covid-19-blood-clots

      Ok i have manged to find a few articles but this one i supply is proof enough while not made openly public via media that there did/does exist a risk of blood clots as a result of covid.

      Sadly along my trip of discovery i did discover something new that as yet hasn’t been made clear. It turns out despite the recent claim published by johnson and johnson/jannssen,that they omitted to mention that the astrazeneca vaccine has a higher risk than covid that todate i can not find any case of covid having this, of blood clots on the brain.

      All the case studies on blood clots and covid i have come across only mention cases of blood clots forming in the legs,arms, lungs,etc.

      So currently while its a fair comment to say covid creates a greater risk to blood clots, its equally fair to say astrazeneca has a higher risk of causing blood clots and bleeding in the brain.

      As a person who has been administered astrazeneca i do like all others who have feel that we shouldn’t have to go on a deep deep dive while schooling ourselves in all the subjects involved to find this out.
      Its relevant because a nondescript number of us could have this stationary in our brain meaning it could if it moves present a danger and risk of death much further down the road.
      I believe we need to carry out tests to discover and treat on all astrazeneca administered public to what extent this is the case so as to put it to bed.

      Doug

      September 2, 2021 at 3:55 am

  8. Reblogged this on Tory Britain! .

    A6er

    August 31, 2021 at 9:29 am

  9. Why not reduce Universal Credit to £40 A week less !! No one can stop you Boris.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 31, 2021 at 10:34 am

    • £50 a week less there you go Boris that wasn’t that hard to do.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      August 31, 2021 at 10:35 am

    • That’s what happens when you’re sanctioned.

      trev

      August 31, 2021 at 10:46 am

      • So that’s what the £20 a week deduction is a Sanction. Universal Credit is a sanction system device anyway.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 10:50 am

  10. Another week before the Politicians go back to work from their summer break then it’s all systems go.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 31, 2021 at 10:52 am

    • NP’s will be voting on scraping the £20 a week uplift when they go back to work sometime soon. Even if the Government are defeated the £20 a week cut will still happen. So what’s the point of Politicians !!!

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      August 31, 2021 at 12:27 pm

  11. I’m not sure about MPs losing their majorities because UC claimants vote against them. It sounds plausible but, based on history, I’m pretty sure that winkling these rotters out of the House of Commons is never as simple as that. I remember articles saying exactly the same thing before the last general election about several significant Tories: Iain Duncan Smith himself was one of those mentioned with more UC claimants in his constituency than his majority and the bastard is STILL MP for Chingford and Woodford Green and, to add insult to injury, recently knighted by the Queen for his service to the nation!

    Aleister

    August 31, 2021 at 11:44 am

  12. I was suprised when the Tories gave the £20 extra in the first place. After four years of deliberately freezing unemployment benefit, and giving out 37p rises etc. Now they want it all back quickly, before people get used to having the extra money. And to make them think harder about taking on a crap-level job they wouldn’t do in normal circumstances.

    Jeff Smith

    August 31, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    • @ Jeff

      It was probably about throwing the workers a bone to hopefully get votes in future, they don’t give a shit about the unemployed.

      trev

      August 31, 2021 at 3:28 pm

  13. 31 August 2021
    Hybrid Working in DWP
    Following the period of civil servants working from home during the pandemic, the Cabinet Office has created four “personas” to describe different ways of working going forward.
    Throughout the pandemic many workers have been allowed to work from home. We have conclusive proof that workers can work from home and still deliver vital services, without affecting workloads and performance.

    While it has not always been easy for some of our members, for many it has meant the end of expensive, time consuming and stressful commutes into workplaces. This has resulted in improved wellbeing for those whose circumstances support working from home as well as giving the planet a breather with a reduction in CO2 and other harmful emissions associated with transport.

    Civil Service Personas
    As a result of the lessons learned the civil service have been keen to introduce a blended approach to working, which would allow employees to work between the home, as well as other outstations, and the workplace. The Cabinet Office has adopted four different types of working which they call “Personas”.

    DWP have adopted these personas and have now issued their guidance describing each one and confirming which persona will apply to staff in the department. The personas are as follows:

    Workplace based – Role is likely to be based in one fixed office location. Role is likely to require larger proportion of the working week meeting customers face to face /contact with the public in DWP or other location. The DWP believes that all Jobcentre roles will be workplace based but virtually enabled so that it remains possible to work from home.
    Hybrid worker – Role can be undertaken in any agreed location. Role likely to have limited face to face public or partner contact. Contact with customers and partners mainly undertaken via the phone and digital solutions. The DWP’s current proposals is homeworking can be up to 60% of a hybrid workers time. The DWP sees those in scope as employees whose work is non customer facing such as benefit processing, telephony, corporate centre workers.
    Mobile worker – Role is likely to be undertaken from a variety of locations on a daily basis, not a single office base. Role likely requires face to face contact with public or customers outside of office environment. Location of the role is determined by the activity or service required. The DWP sees this status as applying to Visiting officers, Fraud and Compliance officers
    Home worker – people contracted to work from home, but may work from other locations from time to time.
    For personas 1 to 3 home working is not a contractual arrangement, but a flexible agreement between the DWP and the employee. Hybrid working will always be voluntary so if an employee prefers to work in the workplace all of the time, then they can do so. Both workplace based and hybrid workers will be remote enabled so they will have the ability to work from home.

    PCS view on hybrid working proposals
    Whilst there is much to welcome in these proposals and the access to hybrid working has the potential to liberate many from the daily commute thereby having a role in the reduction of carbon emissions, the big problem with the DWP’s current position is that Jobcentre staff will not have access to hybrid working.

    In consultation between PCS and DWP, the employer has insisted that although front-facing members will have the equipment to work from home, opportunities to do so will be very limited. The Department and the Government are dogmatically insisting that services in Jobcentres for example should almost exclusively be delivered face to face.
    PCS have a proud history of supporting community-based Jobcentres serving the people that live close to them, particularly those who are vulnerable, and were strong opponents of the Department and UK Government’s office closure programme under the People and Locations banner.

    However, we also believe that Jobcentre workers should have greater access to opportunities to work from home than the current proposals allow.

    Unfair treatment
    Jobcentre members have had to make great sacrifices throughout the pandemic, categorised as key workers they have continued to put themselves, their families and communities at risk by delivering limited services to the most vulnerable from their workplaces. The period of the pandemic has also shown, conclusively, that Jobcentre staff can deliver great service from home. It is scant reward for this group of workers, highly praised by so many including the Prime Minister, that they do not have access to something every other group of employees in DWP has; namely the ability to have reasonable working from home arrangements.

    Still in a pandemic
    PCS has continued to argue that the access to working from home for our members over the next few months is greater than ever. We see that both the daily infection and mortality rates are volatile, and know the scientists predict a further spike in confirmed cases during the winter months. Now is not the time to be restricting access to remote working for our members. It is why we are still in dispute with DWP over safety in Jobcentres and asked DWP not to implement or introduce the formal hybrid working proposals while we are still in pandemic.

    PCS will continue to campaign for all members who want decent access to working from home to have it and are currently encouraging members to attend meetings organised by branches to discuss the current safety position in DWP.

    Your engagement with the union is critical during the period ahead, will help inform our negotiation strategy as well as informing us of our wider memberships preparedness to act collectively to maintain your safety.

    superted

    August 31, 2021 at 1:20 pm

  14. I attended my signing appointment at the Jobcentre today, which turned out not to be a ‘signing’ appointment. I don’t know about other Jobcentres but mine have now dispensed with signing a declaration, either with a pen on paper or on a electronic pad. It is now enough to confirm one’s identity by answering two simple questions; d.o.b. and postcode. So I take that as a good sign, they are finally realizing the futility of their normal procedures, perhaps this will eventually lead to negating the requirement to attend quite so often, perhaps monthly leading to annually instead of fortnightly, or at least it would do were it not for Universal Credit looming over everyone like Doomsday.

    trev

    August 31, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    • @trev- Are you still having to show jobsearch, and have them check it ? I’m still on telephone appointments, but not for much longer apparently. They’ve obviously been cracking the whip as far as the Work Coaches are concerned. Mine doesn’t seem very keen at all. You can tell they have been ordered to round up their claimants, and not let them skive it any longer.

      Jeff Smith

      August 31, 2021 at 5:38 pm

      • Yes she asked what I’d been doing to find a job, so I said I’d been looking on the internet using my phone and at the library on Indeed, CV Library etc. and showed her the confirmation emails on my phone that you get when you’ve applied for something and I save them all into a folder called ‘Job Applications’ in my email, just showed her that and she was happy. Gave me my next appointment and off I went. Hardly anyone else was in the Jobcentre, mostly empty apart from a few staff and security. Don’t know what’s happening upstairs on the UC floor. Not many folk waiting outside the main entrance either. I think they must be keeping appointments to a minimum by the looks of it.

        trev

        August 31, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    • Trev

      makes you wonder why they couldn’t figure that out prior to wasting tax payer money on thos electronic pads.

      Doug

      September 2, 2021 at 4:15 am

      • Makes you wonder what the point of the Jobcentre is.

        trev

        September 2, 2021 at 10:10 am

  15. There are more important things going on at the DWP than losing the £20 a week uplift on Universal Credit & Work Coaches Working Rights. Or perhaps that has all gone away.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 31, 2021 at 4:21 pm

  16. The Disability Unit – Organisations: Cabinet Office

    The launch of the National Disability Strategy

    Justin Tomlinson MP, Posted on:28 July 2021 – Categories:National Strategy for Disabled People

    Holding government to account
    The strategy is the start of a series of practical, tangible steps we can take right across government to improve disabled people’s everyday lives. It highlights our plans for all parts of life that matter to disabled people in one place. A very real cross-government focus, personally backed by the Prime Minister.

    The strategy will hold to account every part of government. Each department has nominated a Ministerial Disability Champion. They will ensure the needs of disabled people are at the heart of policy-making in their department.

    We will publish an annual report that will:

    – measure progress

    – offer the opportunity to update the strategy.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 31, 2021 at 4:26 pm

    • The Disability Unit – Organisations: Cabinet Office

      The launch of the National Disability Strategy

      Is a Disability Hate Crime in itself.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      August 31, 2021 at 4:27 pm

      • Held To Account.

        Go & see your lawyers.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 4:28 pm

      • Build Me A Disabled Political Playground.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 4:28 pm

      • Ministerial Disability Champion

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 4:29 pm

      • What’s the difference between a Disability Champion & A Ministerial Disability Champion !! That is a rhetorical question.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 4:37 pm

      • A Class System is what the National Disability Strategy is. The politicians have been disabled so disabled people can get on with their disabled lives.

        It’s not Disability Day Again is it? I thought Disability Day was yesterday.

        Everyday is Disability Day for disabled people.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 4:42 pm

      • What’s the difference between a Disability Champion & A Ministerial Disability Champion?

        Well one’s is on Disability Confident.& the other is in Parliament.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        August 31, 2021 at 4:55 pm

  17. Let’s face it with a majority of 80 the Conservative government isn’t going to suffer a rebellion significant enough for it not to get its way. And with not a few U-turns, partial or full, in it’s past after making abolishing the UC £20 uplift like a kind of virility test of Johnson’s leadership Bojo really cannot afford not to get his way this time or his authority, such as it is, could be fatally undermined. It really is going to hurt, especially over the winter, to lose that much money in one go as I along with million of others are doomed to discover personally.

    Aleister

    August 31, 2021 at 4:45 pm

    • It will do Boris’ image no favours, nor that of the Tories, people have long memories…

      (Cath Tate)

      trev

      August 31, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    • trev

      August 31, 2021 at 5:22 pm

      • I wonder what she would have done if her home was sprayed with man-ure 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 fckng Thatcher the milk snatcher.

        Cloverleaf

        August 31, 2021 at 5:32 pm

  18. What’s the difference between a Tory and a piece of canine shit ?
    You can vote for a Tory, but you can’t step into it.

    George M

    August 31, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    • Boris Johnson Jogging.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      August 31, 2021 at 6:58 pm

      • .Good Point Stepping (in it)

        Jeff Smith

        August 31, 2021 at 10:38 pm

    • Beware the scammers texting/emailing the offer of sorting out a vaccine passport.

      I received one yesterday so spread the word and be on the lookout for these dodgy texts/emails.

      It said “NHS

      WE’VE NOTICED YOU HAVEN’T APPLIED FOR YOUR COVID PASS.
      FOLLOW THE LINK TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION AND AVOID PENALTIES”.

      We all know there is no penalty for not having a covid passport. That all it does is reduce our ability to attend currently large events or events like nighclubs where groups will be in close contact.

      Doug

      September 2, 2021 at 4:13 am

      • Thanks for the warning Doug I’ll tell everyone I know.

        Cloverleaf

        September 2, 2021 at 7:12 am

  19. The Conservative Party rejects a cross-party petition to keep the £20 weekly Universal Credit rise.

    https://washingtonnewsday.com/news/the-conservative-party-rejects-a-cross-party-petition-to-keep-the-20-weekly-universal-credit-rise/

    superted

    September 1, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    • The Nasty Party strikes again!

      trev

      September 1, 2021 at 5:23 pm

      • More like the nazi party strikes again.

        Cloverleaf

        September 1, 2021 at 5:36 pm

      • Haha 😆 they just can’t help themselves, they’ll never shake that image…because it’s TRUE! Nasty is as Nasty does. “By their deeds shall ye know them”. The Tories are devoid of empathy because they are detached from reality, cushioned by wealth, status, and connections, and have no idea how ordinary people live. That and the fact that most of them are Sociopaths and psychopaths.

        trev

        September 1, 2021 at 5:44 pm

  20. superted

    September 1, 2021 at 5:48 pm

  21. Andrew Coates

    September 1, 2021 at 7:40 pm

    • More than £9bn will have been spent on the uplift by the time it ends, the government says.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 2, 2021 at 10:45 am

      • The whole of the Universal Credit completed roll out was meant to cost £12bn.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 2, 2021 at 10:46 am

      • Never mind, Boris papered his kitchen walls with Gold, Rishi Sunak is having a nice swimming pool and gym added to his house, Lord Freud still has his 11 bedroom mansion in Kent and IDS still lives rent-free in the his Baron father-in-law’s spare house. The boys are doing alright for themselves.

        trev

        September 2, 2021 at 11:08 am

      • Scroungers.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 2, 2021 at 11:19 am

  22. Fecking parasites.

    Cloverleaf

    September 2, 2021 at 11:56 am

  23. 2 September 2021
    Hundreds of agency workers become DWP staff following PCS campaign
    A PCS campaign has resulted in 97% of staff employed as agency workers by Brook Street in the Department for Work and Pensions becoming directly employed by the DWP.
    In June, following PCS campaigning, we had persuaded the DWP to offer all staff employed as agency workers on Brook Street contracts direct employment with DWP.

    Following the DWP’s offer to the staff previously employed by Brook Street we are very pleased to confirm the excellent news that of the 1808 staff on Brook Street contracts, 97% are now employed by DWP.

    The huge majority of Brook Street staff converting to DWP contracts demonstrates, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that workers much prefer direct employment to being second-class citizens with inferior terms and conditions working on agency contracts. The DWP should acknowledge this and never use agency workers again.

    Campaign for permanent contracts for FTA staff continues
    While the success of the campaign for Brook Street to convert to direct DWP contracts has been encouraging, disappointingly the DWP has failed to act on the PCS demand that all staff on fixed-term contracts are offered permanent ones.

    We do not believe the department’s continued use of fixed-term contracts is justifiable. The Covid pandemic has already had a massive impact on the economy resulting in the loss hundreds of thousands of jobs. The end of the furlough scheme at the end of September has the potential to destroy many more jobs. Consequently, there is not likely to be any shortage of work for already over-stretched PCS members for the foreseeable future.

    Our DWP group executive will continue campaigning activity on behalf of fixed-term appointment members while continuing to press DWP to do the right thing and make FTA staff permanent.

    superted

    September 2, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    • Work Coaches are doing a wide range of jobs.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 2, 2021 at 4:57 pm

      • Making tea, pretending to be Dole clerks…

        trev

        September 2, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    • Superted

      Love your post regarding DWP and Brook street.
      Puts DWP conditionality demands on the unemployed and or employed but still reliant on welfare to pick up the short fall in employment finance to accept any job in the DOCKS.

      While its understandable different people need different hours according to need such as students, new parents, disabled as just a few examples of individuals lives that just aren’t straightforward, it should always be predicated on the individuals choice rather than a conditionality demand in order to receive any benefits that they must submit to taking any job no matter the terms and conditions of said vacancies.

      Any government claiming to have the wish to end members of the public’s work hardships that leads to them being reliant on the welfare system, that wishes to get people into work and totally off benefits wouldn’t develop a system of conditionality that only serves in earnest to produce figures that creates a picture their policy is working when all it has achieved is to make totally unemployed claimants now employed just a little less reliant yet still heavily tied to welfare..
      Any government, any party should acknowledge the individual claimants job needs, embrace them and support them as opposed to the current trend of box ticking and a clear indication they have shaped the welfare system for the unemployed yet able to work to facility businesses over the public’s employment and financial needs.

      Doug

      September 3, 2021 at 7:53 am

  24. Cloverleaf

    September 2, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    • The Justified Ancients of Mu

      trev

      September 2, 2021 at 2:43 pm

      • Excellent 👏👏👏

        Cloverleaf

        September 2, 2021 at 2:59 pm

      • Ahhh the good old days of the KLF. They don’t write them like that anymore.

        trev

        September 2, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    • Aren’t they the ones who burned a million quid in some stunt or something? If so how daft is that? If they didn’t want it they could have donated it to a charity, some good cause or just handed it out to the poor and homeless individually where it could have done a lot of good rather than going up in smoke.

      James

      September 2, 2021 at 4:11 pm

      • The ashes of the million quid were gathered together and placed in an urn, which as a work of modern art is now valued at more than a million quid! That’s the point they were making, the ridiculousness of the Art establishment (with a capital ‘A’) and the way in which money itself is elevated to the status of ‘High Art’, a point made decades earlier by Duchamp and his Ready-mades culminating in the famous Urinal.

        The KLF also nailed thousands of £s to board and hung it from the railings of the Tate as a prize to the winner, whom they dubbed the “worst artist of the year”. I forget it who it was now but you can look it up. The point was about subverting the Turner Prize.

        trev

        September 2, 2021 at 8:47 pm

    • Like the common cold it was always going to happen and while the infection no matter the mutation exists, the potential for it to become disruptive enough to change our way of life is forever on the cards until further notice.

      I think as things stand that we all have to adapt our lives to accommodate a change in commercial trade/business which can only worsen as the potential of sickness through covid infection remains.

      Doug

      September 3, 2021 at 8:01 am

  25. It’s amazing really how much of all this is just shrugged off by the British public. The end of the furlough scheme, the Universal Credit £20 cut. Political apathy is a real problem in this country.

    Jeff Smith

    September 2, 2021 at 2:12 pm

  26. Since 40% of the Universal Credit claimants are working, why don’t they call a strike over the £20 a week ?

    George M

    September 2, 2021 at 2:20 pm

  27. DWP agrees to waive Hardship payments debts

    https://thepoorsideof.life/2021/09/02/dwp-agrees-to-waive-hardship-payment-debts/

    I should bloody well think so too! Only a Sociopath could come up with a system whereby Hardship takes the form of a repayable loan – one Lord Freud.

    trev

    September 2, 2021 at 2:39 pm

  28. Policy in Practice joins 100 organizations urging the Prime Minister not to cut Universal Credit

    https://policyinpractice.co.uk/policy-in-practice-joins-100-organisations-urging-the-prime-minister-not-to-cut-universal-credit/

    trev

    September 2, 2021 at 3:01 pm

    • (from the open letter to the PM)

      “…Furthermore, it is unacceptable that legacy benefits, such as Employment and Support Allowance, Jobseeker’s Allowance and Income Support, continue to be excluded from this crucial improvement in support, mostly impacting people who are sick, disabled or carers…”

      They’re not wrong!

      trev

      September 2, 2021 at 3:10 pm

  29. well they just cut even more bus services round here and now cant get a us in to town anymore fkn joke.

    i bet the dwp never seen that one coming pmsl

    superted

    September 2, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    • You might qualify for postal signing, if that facility still exists?

      trev

      September 2, 2021 at 4:06 pm

      • not going to stop me having my fun day out so i can shove that foi up the dea ass 😉

        superted

        September 2, 2021 at 4:09 pm

  30. Andrew Coates

    September 2, 2021 at 5:19 pm

  31. £20 a Sheet Of Boris Johnson Toilet Paper. He’s pays someone to go & get it.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 2, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    • aka Tory Party Civil War.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 2, 2021 at 6:54 pm

  32. Business cries employee shortage yet wheres the employer queues at JCP and an end to anybody fit and able to work requiring any welfare support ?

    We are constantly hearing businesses and the various supportive groups bemoaning a staff shortage yet rather than grab the 1 million plus on welfare all crying out for work enough to end the need for welfare with attractive offers of permanent secure employment, they are consistently hinting the problem can be only be solved by shipping in workers from across the seas.

    Just like covid proved we could house all homeless if we needed to, businesses could literally near end the need for welfare support while working over night.

    TRUE COLORS

    Whims of the individuals with the power to change both homelessness and reliance on welfare while working are being allowed to overshadow what needs to happen to bring about positive change.

    ANSWER

    Tell employers they have to clear all the unemployed/employed but on welfare off the register in their area first before having any fair justification to petition the government of the day that they should allow employers to hire workers from across the seas.

    Its time all businesses play a bigger role of responsibility in getting people off welfare by not only offering secure regular work but work that supplies financial security for the individual enough to not need welfare anymore.

    Doug

    September 3, 2021 at 8:25 am

  33. I’d like to know just what the High Priestess of Work Worship said about the £20 cut ? Did she do anything to stop it, or just say it was a good idea ?

    Jeff Smith

    September 3, 2021 at 1:31 pm

    • According to several newspaper articles and reports in other media Coffey actually wanted to keep the £20 UC “uplift” but wanted to keep her job a hell of a lot more, so after making a few token protests privately gave up and went with the flow like so many ambitious greasy pole climbers before her.

      Aleister

      September 3, 2021 at 3:25 pm

  34. https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/timeseries/jp9z/unem

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment/timeseries/mgsx/lms

    so there are just under 1 million jobs advertised and just under 5 million unemployed so they have cut the £20 a week fully knowing most wont get a job to replace that money or top up uc from a part time job.

    superted

    September 3, 2021 at 2:35 pm

  35. Restart providers Induction Packs for participants

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/restart_providers_induction_pack#incoming-1868029

    RESTART SCHEME
    AND CARE EXPENSES
    JOINT PLEDGE
    Please sign to confirm your Restart
    Scheme Advisor has made you
    MANDATION
    aware you can claim Travel and
    Care expenses (page 15)

    adhered to by both parties.
    CONSENT TO SHARE
    Department for Work and Pensions
    Good communication is essential to make the most of your time on the Restart Scheme.
    Please sign, date and print your name below
    Fair Processing Notice and On-

    to acknowledge that you have read and
    programme Support (page 20

    superted

    September 3, 2021 at 2:49 pm

  36. Your response related to “Restart ‘initial Diagnostic Assessment’ tools” 6/8/21

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/your_response_related_to_restart#incoming-1868175

    superted

    September 3, 2021 at 3:09 pm

  37. Restart mandatory participants, their sensitive personal data and benefit sanctions

    DWP Response
    We can confirm that we hold some of the information you request.
    To answer your first question, the department’s Jobcentre Plus work coaches can request
    that a claimant undertakes a task or takes part in a specific programme to support them back
    into employment. Restart is just one of many programmes available to help people looking for
    work. If a claimant refuses to take part in any stage of that process a compliance doubt may
    be raised, which may or may not result in a sanction being imposed.
    A participant may refuse to complete or sign any forms or documents drawn up by a Restart
    provider, and there is no specific legislation that requires a Restart participant to give a
    reason for declining to complete an initial diagnostic assessment, or sign an action plan. It is
    extremely unlikely that a provider would make the signing of an action plan a mandatory
    activity.
    Restart providers cannot compel a participant to disclose matters pertaining to their health or
    disability and a sanction will not be applied to a participant if they choose not to share any
    details relating to this.
    The department has no recorded information which refers to a legal or mandatory
    requirement for Restart participants to complete or sign paper or electronic documents drawn
    up by a provider.
    2
    We do however, ask providers to note any reasons offered for the refusal to sign an action
    plan but as already stated, the participant is not obliged to supply a reason. A Restart
    participant is expected to comply with any mandated activities set out in the action plan but
    again no legislation compels them to sign or provide reasons for refusing to sign. However, a
    failure to adhere to the mandated actions set out in the plan may lead to a compliance doubt
    referral being raised with Jobcentre Plus.
    In relation to your second question, please find attached the privacy notice which G4S share
    and discuss with participants during their induction. This forms part of the initial meeting for
    the Restart programme and the privacy notice is covered in the Data Protection/General Data
    Protection Regulation (GDPR) part of the induction.
    With regard to the handling of data in your third question, we can confirm in the case of
    Restart that the Data Controller is the Department for Work and Pensions, and the Data
    Processor is the Restart provider.
    To answer your final question, as part of their initial meeting, participants sign their action
    plan to say they have undertaken the induction, and are providing their consent in relation to
    the GDPR information they have provided. A blank copy of this G4S action plan is attached.
    If you have any queries about this letter, please contact us quoting the reference number
    above.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/restart_mandatory_participants_t#incoming-1867909

    superted

    September 3, 2021 at 3:13 pm

    • @superted: Are you still going to refuse to sign Superted, if they try to get you on this ?

      George M

      September 3, 2021 at 4:05 pm

      • i am not required buy law to sign there contracts there is no legislation to enforce a sanction doubt can be made and if they try it on then they will loose again at tribunal because it will be unlawful.

        that foi proves this as fact they need your permission and you can refuse and have done it for years but if you send in that foi to a dm it will go no further.

        so i will give that foi to them next week and make it clear if they mandate me to attend i will give copy’s of this to everyone there as that will piss the provider right off 😉

        if every one did this they would go bust in months 😉

        superted

        September 3, 2021 at 4:19 pm

  38. Universal Credit cut would be in breach of UN human rights charter.

    A leading human rights campaign has written to MPs warning that the £20 a week cut to Universal Credit would run counter to the government’s human rights obligations.

    Boris Johnson’s government will be in breach of international human rights obligations if it pushes ahead with the planned Universal Credit cut, campaigners have warned.

    Human Rights Watch has written to more than 350 MPs urging them to “use your influence” to stop the proposed £20 a week cut to UC when they return to Parliament next Monday.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/universal-credit-cut-would-breach-24902549

    Andrew Coates

    September 3, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    • Conservative governments are generally shameless and laws unto themselves. When the UN Special Rapporteur savaged the then government’s handling of poverty in the UK his report was published

      https://www.bigissue.com/latest/un-poverty-inspector-slams-government-on-universal-credit-and-brexit/

      the response from the government was to insult him, rubbish the report and ignore its findings completely.

      https://www.bigissue.com/latest/uk-government-drops-the-mic-in-response-to-the-uns-poverty-report/

      So anybody expecting that anything associated with or coming from the UN might inspire our current Conservative government and fork-tongued Prime Minister to discover its conscience and update ALL benefits to levels appropriate to post-Brexit Britain is on a hiding to nothing. They won’t. All they would say is that out of the EU national sovereignty reigns supreme and that now “we” decide what happens within our own borders, e.g., remorseless and exponential growth in food bank attendance, and that if the rest of the world doesn’t like it they can f*ck off and leave us alone.

      Aleister

      September 3, 2021 at 3:41 pm

      • The Tories don’t give a monkey’s about the Human Rights of Benefits claimants. They have dismissed the findings of the United Nations with a wall of denial. They breached the agreements of the Council of Europe too, with impunity, no action was ever taken against them in either regard, no trials for breach of Human Rights, no missile strikes against Westminster, nothing. Human Rights? Pfft.

        trev

        September 3, 2021 at 6:38 pm

    • @Andrew Coates – In that case, witholding the £20 uplift from the legacy claimants in the first place, must also be a breach of their human rights.

      Jeff Smith

      September 3, 2021 at 4:02 pm

      • Very true. Nobody apart from people on this Blog and this Blog seems to mention that now.

        Andrew Coates

        September 3, 2021 at 4:33 pm

      • and so is trying to sanction ppl for not entering in to contracts with 3rd party company’s for profit 😉

        superted

        September 3, 2021 at 5:35 pm

  39. Universal Credit is a Human Rights Breech. The use of Sanctions which the Tory Voters didn’t believed happened is. People are amazed when they realize there are Sanctions on Universal Credit. They think something should be done yet they are the ones who didn’t believe it in the first place. How is the UK Bill Of Rights doing. The UK own Human Rights Maws in Brexit which breaks more other Human Rights Laws.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 3, 2021 at 6:12 pm

    • Tory Dictatorship Human Rights Laws.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 3, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      • Ministerial Disability Champion.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 3, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      • aka Justin Tomlinson Disability Minister has just been promoted.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 3, 2021 at 6:15 pm

      • Tory Dictatorship Champion

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 3, 2021 at 6:16 pm

      • Demo Rock Racy

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 3, 2021 at 6:17 pm

  40. Seetec
    Online Portal
    Seetec’s Online Portal is your personal
    online service.
    The portal is jam-packed full of really useful resources to help you
    on your journey into work – accessible when you want to view job
    vacancies, access e-learning courses, organise your appointments
    and check your progress.
    This is an exclusive portal, only available to Restart Scheme
    participants, designed to give you the edge against the competition!
    Seetec Pluss may recommend official software or apps from trusted providers
    If you don’t have access to a laptop, PC or phone, or simply don’t
    that you can download on your device. Seetec Pluss cannot be held responsible
    feel confident using IT, we’ll help you get online straight away
    for virus or malware damage resulting from the use of recommended software
    by giving you equipment, data and digital training.
    as this can become infected, intercepted or corrupted either before or during
    the transfer to your device.

    Logging on to the portal
    Your personal dashboard
    After the first introductory call you will be sent a text message with
    You have now arrived at your personal dashboard where you
    a link to the Seetec Online Portal.
    can organise your journey into work, including vacancies, goals,
    learning and appointments.
    To set up an account and sign in for the first time…
    1. Simply click on ‘Let’s
    Get Started!’
    1
    2
    2. Sign up with your email
    address and choose a
    password, tick the box
    to agree the terms and
    conditions, and click
    ‘Sign up’.
    3. We will text you a code to verify your phone number. Enter the
    code in the boxes and then click ‘Verify code’.
    4. You will then see a message to say your account has been
    successfully created – click ‘Continue’.
    5. You will be taken back to the log in page. Enter your log in details
    and select ‘Sign In’.

    now that is a digital contract and there taking the fucking piss now!

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/restart_providers_induction_pack#incoming-1858432

    so check what area you are in and look at what there induction pack looks like and what you can expect.

    superted

    September 3, 2021 at 7:27 pm

  41. Camden New Journal 31st Aug 2021

    £20 uplift row: People ‘struggling to survive’ in London on Universal Credit

    Government set to remover £20 extra payment introduced during pandemic

    Cllr Ranjit Singh shared his concerns

    HARROWING scenes from I, Daniel Blake – the Ken Loach film exploring poverty and the benefits system – have become a reality in Camden, the Town Hall was told on Tuesday, amid appeals to extend the furlough support system and to halt a cut to Universal Credit.

    And there was a warning that some people may simply not be able to survive on the level of support being offered to the borough’s poorest residents.

    Speaking at the council’s resources scrutiny committee, Labour councillor Ranjit Singh directly referenced the part of the movie in which a struggling mother-of-two has a breakdown in a food bank, eating directly from a tin of beans before collapsing in a flood of tears.

    The film, which won the Palme D’or award at the Cannes Film Festival in 2016, tells the story of a man forced to take fitness to work tests after a heart attack.

    “I recently watched again the film I Daniel Blake by the world renowned and iconic filmmaker Ken Loach,” Cllr Singh told the meeting.

    “There’s a really powerful scene where the mother is forced to attend the food bank and you know, unfortunately, that is a reality for far too many families in Camden as well. We’re facing this perfect storm presently with the ending of the £20 uplift.”

    The ‘uplift’ was an extra payment for Universal Credit recipients introduced at the start of the pandemic in recognition of the fact some people were already struggling and conditions had become even harder due to Covid.

    Meanwhile, the government agreed to pay 80 percent of wages to employees unable to work due to the pandemic – a system best known as ‘furlough’.

    But both measures are now due to expire with the government saying it wants to concentrate efforts on getting people into work.

    Cllr Ranjit Singh shared his concerns

    HARROWING scenes from I, Daniel Blake – the Ken Loach film exploring poverty and the benefits system – have become a reality in Camden, the Town Hall was told on Tuesday, amid appeals to extend the furlough support system and to halt a cut to Universal Credit.

    And there was a warning that some people may simply not be able to survive on the level of support being offered to the borough’s poorest residents.

    Speaking at the council’s resources scrutiny committee, Labour councillor Ranjit Singh directly referenced the part of the movie in which a struggling mother-of-two has a breakdown in a food bank, eating directly from a tin of beans before collapsing in a flood of tears.

    The film, which won the Palme D’or award at the Cannes Film Festival in 2016, tells the story of a man forced to take fitness to work tests after a heart attack.

    “I recently watched again the film I Daniel Blake by the world renowned and iconic filmmaker Ken Loach,” Cllr Singh told the meeting.

    “There’s a really powerful scene where the mother is forced to attend the food bank and you know, unfortunately, that is a reality for far too many families in Camden as well. We’re facing this perfect storm presently with the ending of the £20 uplift.”

    The ‘uplift’ was an extra payment for Universal Credit recipients introduced at the start of the pandemic in recognition of the fact some people were already struggling and conditions had become even harder due to Covid.

    Meanwhile, the government agreed to pay 80 percent of wages to employees unable to work due to the pandemic – a system best known as ‘furlough’.

    But both measures are now due to expire with the government saying it wants to concentrate efforts on getting people into work.

    Ken Loach was credited for tackling a subject not normally seen on the big screen

    Cllr Singh remained unconvinced, adding: “With the end of furlough, and as we head into winter, it is really dire for many families out there. So in terms of signposting what services are out there, I think we really need to be on the ball so people do get the help when they need it.

    “We need to continue putting that pressure on the government to cancel the cut and so that they do extend furlough – and what we can do to support that is absolutely critical.”

    Cllr Singh added that he was shocked that there was no breakdown on benefits to show whether there were any disproportionate outcomes for black, Asian and other minority ethnic communities.

    Mr Loach divides some of Cllr Singh’s colleagues in the Labour Party.

    The filmmaker said he had been expelled for having solidarity with those who had already been thrown out. Admirers, however, say his gritty films best illustrate the challenges that people face just to survive.

    He appeared at a rally outside Kentish Town job centre when a man from Kentish Town suffered a heart attack shortly after being asked to prove he was not well enough to work – an incident which echoed the storyline of his own film.

    Red in Full Camden New Journal

    [I can’t post links for some reason !!!]

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 3, 2021 at 7:28 pm

  42. Are all these DWP schemes – JETS, Health & Work, Restart – face to face or online? Or a mixture of both? Which are voluntary and mandatory? What do they offer? What do they involve? It doesn’t seem realistic to me if they involved groups of people meeting in poorly ventilated rooms for hours on end on a regular basis. So if a lot of it is being delivered online how the heck does that work? I have got internet at home and an old desktop computer with no camera and so I can’t make video calls or participate in zoom calls or group chats etc., nor would I want to. With coronavirus biding its time until the autumn/winter flu seasons I really can’t imagine how any of these schemes could be run safely unless delivered mostly online… which means you could refuse to follow them on your own computer due to data protection and cookie laws we currently adhere to at the moment.

    After all that’s happened over the last several years I could do without being dosed with more twaddle about CV polishing, confidence building, transferable skills, overcoming obstacles etc., and treated like a moron by a group of unqualified, aggressive, bolshie tw@ts.

    Aleister

    September 4, 2021 at 8:36 am

    • All I’ve got now is an increasingly outdated smartphone, other than that I use the computers in the library (30 mins. walk away). There used to be a local community library just a 5 min. walk away but it closed. Some of the Training mentioned during lockdown was online but I don’t know if that would still be the case, and it was all for people with less than Level 4 Educational Qualification, that was the “Training” , I’ve no idea about the Schemes.

      trev

      September 4, 2021 at 9:17 am

      • I get internet access via a cheap 4G router with Smarty. Not got a landline. It’s the cheapest way I can use the web costing me £10.00 per month (for 30 GB of data) so £2.50 a week which has been manageable so far. Also got a cheap Chinese XBO smartphone using the ASDA Mobile (Vodafone) also the cheapest I could find offering a 4p a minute tariff. (There is a cheaper call rate with 1pMobile, but only really if you top-up by at least £30 or more a year.) The way prices are rising coupled with the UC uplift withdrawal this might turn out to be unaffordable in a few months or early on in 2022. I can only get one hour a day using library computers and the Jobcentre is five and a bit miles away so if I used public transport to go there to use their computers a couple of times a week it would cost me more than the Smarty deal! And with colder wetter weather on the way I don’t fancy having to walk the best part of eleven miles several days a week to commute to the Jobcentre and back to use their crap PCs. Rock and a hard place pretty much describes it.

        Aleister

        September 4, 2021 at 3:46 pm

  43. Visited the Gestapo HQ yesterday, I’ve been shoved into the w&hp. From now on it’s going to be weekly appointments so that’s more bloody bus fare I’ve got to fork out.

    Cloverleaf

    September 4, 2021 at 12:43 pm

    • if you dont sign the esf1420 form and action plan they will not let you take part the foi for the whp is above and says you are not required to sign these to be able to take part.

      but the provider wont get any money so out the door you will go.

      superted

      September 4, 2021 at 1:08 pm

  44. I forgot to mention something, ‘work coach’ said the poverty pimps could be opening up soon THAT WILL BE FUN won’t it 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

    Cloverleaf

    September 4, 2021 at 12:50 pm

    • Opening Jobcentres fully just as we enter the autumn/winter influenza and covid peak infection seasons. Unless the Jobcentres want to end up super-spreading potentially deadly viruses I doubt that appointments will be booked frequently for individuals if the DWP is going to adhere to the recommendations as per social distancing etc. When I have visited my local Jobcentre recently the place is virtually empty bar a security officer, receptionist and person I am supposed to see; I assume the missing staff are located somewhere else in the building doing paperwork or whatever out of sight and out of mind. Probably when all the unvaccinated children go back to school in England coronavirus will surge same as it did in Scotland when Scottish kids returned to their studies. Lovely!

      Aleister

      September 4, 2021 at 3:59 pm

  45. Top ho 😁

    Cloverleaf

    September 4, 2021 at 1:26 pm

  46. Ministers set to impose vaccine passports on more mass events with sports matches, concerts and conferences set to face the same limits as nightclubs, despite mounting opposition from Tory MPs.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9956305/Ministers-set-impose-vaccine-passports-mass-events.html

    Cloverleaf

    September 4, 2021 at 3:23 pm

  47. DWP Restart scheme – all documents
    Update: September 3rd, 2012
    Copies of all providers participant induction packs:

    https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/restart/

    superted

    September 4, 2021 at 4:14 pm

  48. Restart employability diagnostic assessment and action plans all providers

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/restart_employability_diagnostic

    superted

    September 4, 2021 at 4:26 pm

  49. ”To sign or not to sign, that is the question. Whether to suffer the slings and arrows of the training providers. Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them.”

    Jeff Smith

    September 4, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    • thing is this time round it is different and want full control of your data so that means sending copy’s of it to employers for you and they wont care what sort of job it is either.

      also with these digital portals they have online courses and job boards that they will want you to apply for as this is how they can make sure of there job outcome payments.

      given the number of jobs available at the moment and the amount of unemployment your chance of getting a job from them is slim to none and the risk of getting a sanction doubt even higher as this is where most of my sanction doubts have come from over the years.

      and dont forget if you want the bus fair ect back this will be put in to your bank account so they will want that as well, no cash back these days.

      so if you want to give all of this data to company’s like these you must be of your head.

      superted

      September 4, 2021 at 6:19 pm

    • Just tell the Jobcentre you don’t have enough money for the bus/train fare and they will pony up a travel warrant.

      jj joop

      September 4, 2021 at 8:49 pm

  50. With only five months until I reach retirement age I should feel confident that I won’t be pushed onto another course but I’m not. I remember being on one of my new deals and a guy was due to retire in just over a month and he was pushed onto the course.
    I’m still on telephone appointments and my work coach is really good but if the powers above tell her to push me then I guess she will have to.

    Rob

    September 4, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    • With only five months to go you’re in the clear, even if they do try referring you to some course or other I would tell them to stuff it! If you get Sanctioned you can Appeal against the decision and I would also complain to my MP as well as notifying the media about it, Channel 4 News, BBC, the Graun, the Mirror, etc. The Jobcentre Manager would never live down the negative publicity. News headlines; “Retired Man Sanctioned by DWP”, or “OAP Sent on Back To Work Scheme”. Either way doesn’t look good for TPTB.

      trev

      September 4, 2021 at 7:06 pm

      • what you still dont realise is you are entering in to a contract with a private company and the contract is for 12 months so even if you retire they will still hound you to get a job so they can get paid!

        and the dwp want everyone dead at this age so one last push down the provider to finish them off is worth a shot.

        and there is enough ammunition on this thread via foi requests you can refuse to sign and then they will not let you participate on either programme.

        so get ur ass a printer show then to your wc and make it clear you wont sign anything and with any luck you wont be sent in the first place because if this gets out and every one has them there is no more providers.

        its time to grow some balls and tell your wc your not taking no shit from anyone anymore you wont be entering in to any contracts with any providers ever again and if they dont like this fact tuff!

        and like magic the stick turns in to the carrot 😉

        superted

        September 4, 2021 at 8:43 pm

      • @Rob: That’s good advice from Trev, just keep your head down and you should be alright. But as he says, if they try it on don’t stand for it.

        George M

        September 4, 2021 at 9:11 pm

      • In that position with only months left to Retirement I wouldn’t give a shit, Sanction or not, big deal, stick it up your arse I’m not doing it.

        trev

        September 4, 2021 at 9:16 pm

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    superted

    September 4, 2021 at 7:03 pm

  52. https://www.seetecpluss.co.uk/whp-welcome-pack-forms/

    the esf 1420 contract staes it must be siged at the bottom and get this!

    How your information will be used:
    Personal information you supply to us will be used by Seetec Pluss and our subcontractors to enable
    us to provide support, employment and training services to you. Your information will also be used to
    enable us to fulfil our contractual obligations with DWP. Your information may be shared with the
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    will limit the type of data being sent and it will not include date of birth, National Insurance Number,
    bank details, medical or criminal information. If you agree to your information being shared for this
    purpose please indicate your acceptance below.
    I agree to my information, including my CV, to be shared with employers:
    Accept Decline
    Contacting third parties:
    Where you have provided us with contact details of a support worker, advocate or other family
    member please tick the box below to indicate that we have your permission to contact them if we
    cannot contact you.
    Accept Decline
    Storing your information:
    Your information will be stored securely and in accordance with the General Data Protection
    Regulation (GDPR). For further details about we use your personal data and your rights in relation to
    this data under the GDPR please ask to see our Privacy Statement.
    Participant Signature:
    I understand how my personal information will be used and the conditions under which it may be
    shared.
    Date:

    I confirm that:
    I have received Induction information for the Work and Health Programme and I have been
    informed of the programme’s features and benefits.
    I understand that:
    As part of this programme the following key features and benefits were explained to me and I
    understand my entitlement to these are dependent on being appropriate, reasonable and
    agreed with my advisor, whilst an active participant of this programme:
    • I am entitled to reimbursement for reasonable travel expenses to fully engage with the
    Work and Health Programme activities such as attending sessions and job interviews.
    • If appropriate, I understand that I am entitled to support to help pay for childcare or
    replacement care costs whilst engaging in Work and Health Programme support.
    • If appropriate, I understand that I am entitled to other additional support payments.
    • I am aware of the complaints procedure should I wish to raise a complaint and have
    also been informed of the escalation process should I not be satisfied with the initial
    outcome following an investigation into my complaint.
    • I have been issued with the Work and Health Programme brochure explaining the key
    features and benefits of this provision.
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    Participant signature ……

    so they want a fair few sigs on there contracts they can fuck right off!

    superted

    September 4, 2021 at 7:15 pm

    • @superted

      The above refers to the Work and Health Programme, which is being funded by the European Social Fund. Who exactly is funding the Restart scheme?

      jj joop

      September 4, 2021 at 8:47 pm

      • now this is where it gets a bit complicated as both the whp and the restart programme has been given to the same local pimp ie prospect training round here so is funded buy both esf and the government so fingers in both pies in this regard.

        both have delivery fees and job outcome fees and both can use other providers for training courses that are also esf funded.

        the esf fund is just what we get back for what we pay the eu so this funding model will be replaced at some point.

        either way the government are using 3rd party company’s for profit so even if they was fully funded buy government they will still need your permission to process your personnel data and enter in to a contract with them one way or another via a digital portal and there t&C of use ect.

        superted

        September 4, 2021 at 9:02 pm

  53. https://www.nicva.org/resource/esf-users-briefing-on-future-replacement-of-esf-funding-post-brexit

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    superted

    September 4, 2021 at 9:06 pm

  54. I was on a course once with a guy who turned 65 in the middle of a 4 week course. (Retirement age then). He walked out the day before his birthday, and didn’t come back. The providers apparently rang him up at home wanting to know why he hadn’t come in to finish the course !

    Jeff Smith

    September 4, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    • a Jeff

      If I’d have been in his position I wouldn’t have even begun the course. I mean what’s the point?

      trev

      September 4, 2021 at 10:14 pm

      • @trev- Fear of being sanctioned Trev, I suppose. Don’t you have to wait a month or so for the first pension payment ? So if he didn’t do the course, and they sanctioned him it could have been difficult.
        Depends on people’s circumstances of course.

        Jeff Smith

        September 5, 2021 at 12:39 pm

    • @Jeff

      Same here. I did a one week course to update my IT skills a couple of years ago with Steadfast Training. For me it was entirely voluntary, I actually applied to go on it. To my surprise – shock, there was a guy on it who was six weeks away from retiring who had been mandated by the Jobcentre to attend. I mean, wtf !!!

      jj joop

      September 5, 2021 at 7:08 am

      • @jj joop – And you can’t help but wonder how much of this stuff is going on. People weeks away from retirement, being frightened by the Jobcentre into attending these idiotic courses. It comes down to a growing reluctance by the DWP, to accept that people still can retire at retirement age And that this means they won’t be attending the Jobcentre any more, and won’t have to work, or do any employment schemes
        or courses.

        Jeff Smith

        September 5, 2021 at 12:33 pm

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    superted

    September 4, 2021 at 10:00 pm

  56. @George M and Trev.
    My work coach has been really good and kept me on phone appointments.We all know that if the powers above tell her to push me on a course she will have to.
    The thought of refusing and risking a sanction and struggling for what time I have left to go doesn’t seem worth the hassle. If I couldn’t afford to top up my mobile phone I wouldn’t even have any internet.
    I only hope I live to enjoy the extra hundred quid a week a state pension pays above jsa.
    Just my luck, I missed out on pension credits at 60 and just as I’m reaching retirement Rishi is considering ending the triple lock on pensions.

    Rob

    September 5, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    • sanctions dont happen straight away the wc must send it first to a dm and then you will be given a good reason letter to say what good reason you have for what you did ie not sign providers paperwork.

      every time i have done this i sent in the foi that states i am not required buy law to sign anything and it was dropped every single time and went no further.

      superted

      September 5, 2021 at 12:26 pm

      • @superted- But it does stop your payments for a few weeks, while they consider what to do. This is what is difficult for people living day-to-day on their benefits.

        Jeff Smith

        September 5, 2021 at 1:43 pm

      • when a wc refers a sanction doubt it is sent to a dm first and no money is stopped you will then be asked for a good reason to also be sent to the dm and then it will go one way or another and a sanction then is applied.

        you can then do a mr and if you win that you will get the money back or go to a tribunal.

        i have only had 1 sanction stick where i lost weeks money but i wanted to go to tribunal. all other sanction doubts have gone no further than the dm.

        superted

        September 5, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    • Fair enough Rob, I didn’t mean to be flippant and I guess a Sanction would cause you some hardship. Don’t forget you actually have to apply for your State Pension so far as I know, it doesn’t happen automatically, as incredible as that sounds.

      trev

      September 5, 2021 at 12:26 pm

  57. @Trev.
    You are right about the pension,you have to put in for it a couple of months before and of course to claim the top up with pension credit to receive the £170+. I will also have to put in a new claim for housing benefit.
    I have been told that many pensioners are still not aware that they qualify for that extra thirty pounds or more of pension credit.

    Rob

    September 5, 2021 at 2:01 pm

  58. my mum had here letter and sent it off via email about 6 months ago and still nothing but still receiving benefits tho.

    superted

    September 5, 2021 at 3:26 pm


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