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Dole Cut – Universal Credit Reduction Opposed.

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Bit of history,

“to cut costs, the government introduced the Means Test in 1931. Officials visited families to assess whether they were entitled to help. This involved finding out how much the families earned or possessed.

In order to qualify for dole, a worker had to pass the Means Test, and the sum paid to each family would be based on this test.

The test created many problems for families. Tensions were caused because, if an older child had some work, or a mother had a part-time job, or a grandparent was living in the house without paying rent, the Means Test could result in dole being refused. Heirlooms and items such as pianos had to be sold, and savings spent before the dole was received.

To make matters even worse, the dole was cut by 10 per cent in 1931.

Now…

Johnson under mounting pressure on universal credit as northern Tory MPs’ group warn against cut

Northern Research Group say £20 uplift has been ‘life-saver’ for families, as Labour say they will ‘use every parliamentary mechanism available’ to force vote on issue

Boris Johnson is facing mounting resistance over plans to cut the £20-per-week universal credit uplift, as a group of northern Conservative MPs warned the government it would “hamper” the economic recovery.

Describing the emergency payments as a “life-saver” for people during the Covid-19 pandemic, the Northern Research Group (NRG), representing around 50 MPs, again called on ministers to keep the increase in place.

It comes amid growing Tory unease over the reluctance in No 10 and the Treasury to extend the measure – first introduced at the onset of the pandemic – beyond September, despite the impact of the crisis continuing to reverberate.

….

The NRG spokesperson added: “The effects of coronavirus restrictions have been disproportionately felt by the North. We have been in lockdown longer than any other area of the country. That is why we have seen such a rapid growth rate in new universal credit claims.

“This uplift goes hand-in-hand with the government’s jobs-led recovery by supporting people in the right way. To end it now would only hamper the economic recovery ahead”.

The call from the group representing northern Tory MPs comes after six former Conservative work and pensions secretaries, including Iain Duncan Smith, wrote to the government urging the uplift, introduced by ministers as a temporary measure, to be put on a “permanent footing”.

Speaking to The Independent, Stephen Crabb, one of the former ministers who signed the letter to the chancellor, said the “evidence is pretty clear and overwhelming is that this is a measure that will hurt many, many families”.

At least the Northern Research Group, whose aim is to shore up Tory support in the North and get voters to say, Bless the Squire and his Relations and Keep us in our Proper Station, are consistent. January:

Written by Andrew Coates

July 13, 2021 at 11:52 am

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  1. Infighting & civil war within the Tory Party. Priti Patel; at war with the English Footballers. Iain Duncan Smith at war with the Tory Party. Boris Johnson at war with himself. It seems the divide & rule has back fired on the Tory Party with divisions of political scapregoats using football as a weapon of responsibility. Let’s see if it becomes Boris Johnson’s biggest fuck up so far, because it’s not even a gamble but useless.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 13, 2021 at 12:46 pm

  2. This £20 cut shows right-wing Conservatism at its ruthless worst. The government know it will cause mass poverty and suffering, but they are going to do it anyway. Because deep down in their Tory hearts, they think the £20 was too much to give in the first place. And it will stop people from taking up poor-quality jobs, and encourage them to stay on benefits instead.

    Jeff Smith

    July 13, 2021 at 1:07 pm

  3. Boris don’t be cruel and cut the 20 quid,
    You know you’ll be sorry later that you did,
    When the people come to realise just what it is you do,
    And all your Eton bluster just won’t see you through,

    You’ve done this kind of thing so many times before,
    Made a stupid decision, and then been shown the door.
    Remember the quote you made up when they sacked you from the Times ?
    The affair that you denied, and then we out found was true ?

    Consider your friend Cummings of Barnard Castle fame,
    You should have sacked him then,
    Instead of trying to avoid the blame.

    Remember a certain bonde American you hardly knew at all ?
    The one who had a dancing pole fixed to her wall ?
    What about the pandemic and the total botch of that ?
    A competent Prime Minister, or a self-regarding prat ?

    History will judge you Boris, and the voters too,
    You can’t level up by cutting back,
    Or build up by destroying,
    So have some sense and stop the cut !
    And don’t be so annoying.

    Random Poet

    July 13, 2021 at 1:48 pm

    • @Random Poet : Brilliant Random !! The People’s Poet !

      George M

      July 13, 2021 at 5:44 pm

  4. It will lead to greater poverty, child poverty, malnutrition, debt, rent arrears, increase in foodbank referrals, increase in begging, shoplifting, evictions. And the so-called “uplift” only takes Benefit levels near to the rate it should have been at 7+ years ago! UK Benefits have been woefully inadequate for years. But if you voted Tory you will get what you asked for, what did you expect?

    trev

    July 13, 2021 at 3:29 pm

  5. Claim for financial redress for maladministration

    Individual offices can decide to award local special payments for the following
    circumstances for maladministration:
     Costs up to £250 incurred by a customer or their representative
    because of maladministration
     Consolatory payments up to £100 usually for clear instances of
    maladministration

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/claim_for_financial_redress_for#comment-98633

    superted

    July 13, 2021 at 3:30 pm

  6. superted

    July 13, 2021 at 3:30 pm

  7. One should question why Universal Credit is paying peoples mortgage payments. The Welfare State was not set up to pay people mortgage payments. It shows Universal Credit has a class structure & no class system. Yet again the contradictions are rife. Universal Credit is for the well off not the unemployed.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 13, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    • Universal Credit you can afford to be ripped off. I don’t see these people on Universal Credit giving up their £800 phones, their £3,000 TV’s, driving a car & why should they. Get the DWP to pay for them. The Tory Myth has turned full circle.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 13, 2021 at 3:42 pm

  8. https://www.cognisoft.co.uk/products/yeti/for-employability/

    YETI Employability Features:
    Vacancy management tools
    Employer engagement functionality
    Communications integration with telephony and messaging providers
    Full claims handling and performance reporting
    Interactive, process-driven dashboards
    Detailed reporting and programme analysis tools
    Automated email function
    Handles PRaP data

    Provider Referrals and Payments (PRaP) system for DWP

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/provider-referrals-and-payments-prap-system-for-dwp

    superted

    July 13, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    • Turn that smile upside down.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 13, 2021 at 3:43 pm

      • Yetti & Finity Bullshitty

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 13, 2021 at 3:44 pm

      • Turn that frown inside out 😆

        trev

        July 13, 2021 at 6:04 pm

  9. Boris and/or Rishi Sunak should be made to explain to the public, and to the HoC, how it can be fair, just, and legal to have awarded the increase (even if temporary) to Universal Credit and not to legacy Benefits. What is the rationale for doing so? Why are one group of people any more deserving than another? Why is it that UC claimants are deemed to be in greater need of extra financial assistance than those claiming legacy Benefits? We need answers. Why doesn’t Keir Starmer ask these questions?

    trev

    July 13, 2021 at 3:45 pm

    • Legacy Benefits is a dirty word & stopping the full roll out of Universal Credit. So let’s not rock the boat that has already sunk.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 13, 2021 at 3:48 pm

      • It’s bloody outrageous and they just get away with doing what they want, shitting on the poor whilst handing dodgy Covid contracts to their fucking mates. Tory scum. And seemingly little Opposition.

        trev

        July 13, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    • Lets have that conversation but lets not forget to ask the public who also never made a stink about it.

      The UK has become a selfish population by far and large who dont think twice about throwing the neighbor they barely talk to if at all under the bus just as long as they are ok.
      Its one thing to hold a government to account, its quite another to do the same to a public who sat idle while it happened.

      Doug

      July 14, 2021 at 7:54 am

      • That’s probably quite true Doug, people tend not to care about Political issues unless it affects them directly , but that’s not always down to selfishness, most people are just too busy with their own lives and all that entails. I bet there’s a large proportion of people who are not even aware of this particular issue. But the Opposition should care and obviously be aware, enough to make some inconvenient noise about it. Surely they’re still not afraid of being branded as the ‘party of benefits’ after all this time.

        trev

        July 14, 2021 at 11:50 am

      • trev

        July 14, 2021 at 11:54 am

  10. Bassetlaw District Council hands out nearly £200,000 in extra housing help
    Bassetlaw District Council handed out nearly £200,000 to residents in need of extra help with housing costs last year, figures reveal.

    https://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/politics/bassetlaw-district-council-hands-out-nearly-ps200000-in-extra-housing-help-3306197

    superted

    July 13, 2021 at 3:58 pm

  11. superted

    July 13, 2021 at 4:03 pm

  12. Prices rise again just at a time peoples capital is about to get cut.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57826826

    Amazing isnt it how a Chancellor of the Exchequer can possibly think UC minus the extra £20 is acceptable in the face of this recent revelation by the ONS.

    Doug

    July 14, 2021 at 7:48 am

    • Tighten your belts even further.

      xclausx

      July 14, 2021 at 12:18 pm

  13. The Department for Work and Pensions has agreed to change its controversial policy of cold-calling vulnerable and disabled people and trying to persuade them to accept lower benefit claims than they are legally entitled to.

    The Guardian revealed last year that scores of disabled people who had appealed against a DWP decision on their benefit claim were called by officials and offered “decide right now” offers to abandon the appeal before it reached tribunal.

    Having resisted calls to change their practice for more than a year, the DWP backed down the day before a judicial review challenge at the high court this week brought by a disabled claimant who said she was unfairly pressured into accepting a lower benefit offer.

    The claimant, known as “K”, had argued that the DWP’s practice was unlawful and discriminatory. People had felt under pressure to accept the offer, sometimes worth thousands of pounds a year less than they were entitled to, were not told about their appeal rights, or given the opportunity to discuss the offer with representatives.

    K had made a claim for the personal independence payment benefit in 2017 but was refused. She applied again in 2019 and was awarded only a small amount. She appealed against the decision after her GP advised her that her serious mobility problems meant she was entitled to the highest levels of benefit.

    After the appeal process started, she was called by the DWP, without warning, from a “withheld” number and told she had an hour to accept a deal that was higher than her award but less than she was entitled to. She was told “tribunals are not very nice to go to” and asked if she wanted to risk losing all her benefit.

    K, who has fibromyalgia and epilepsy, and needs help with daily washing, accepted the offer but said afterwards she felt pressured into making the decision. She said she was “haunted” by her choice and decided to challenge the DWP after seeing press reports exposing the practice.

    She said: “I wasn’t given the time I needed to speak to my mum or seek any advice. They didn’t give me the information that I needed to work out if it was what I was entitled to, and they didn’t tell me I could accept the offer and still appeal the decision if I wanted.”

    She added: “It feels as though the DWP has been picking on extremely vulnerable people and using the fear of going to a tribunal or losing an award to pressure people into accepting less than they should be getting.”

    K was offered a deal that amounted to £1,500 a year less than she would have been entitled to if she had successfully pursued the tribunal.

    Disability benefit decisions are notoriously unreliable, and the process of appealing against them is long and stressful. The vast majority of benefit appeals cases that reach tribunal find in favour of the claimants.

    Sara Lomri, K’s solicitor at the Public Law Project, said: “Unfortunately, a practice has developed over the last few years at the DWP whereby benefits decision-makers have been putting pressure on eligible disabled benefits claimants to accept less than their statutory entitlement. Most people would be outraged if they knew that a friend or vulnerable relative was treated this way.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/14/dwp-policy-of-cold-calling-disabled-people-over-benefit-claims-to-end

    Andrew Coates

    July 14, 2021 at 12:53 pm

    • That’s disgusting and incredible. The DWP has gone rogue, out of control, answerable to no one. Wouldn’t someone high up normally lose their job over something like this?

      trev

      July 14, 2021 at 2:01 pm

    • DWP expect benefit claimants to follow the rules while DWP don’t.

      xclausx

      July 14, 2021 at 3:01 pm

    • @Andrew Coates- This is outrageous, calling up sick and disabled people, and trying to bargain with them for their benefits. But sadly typical of this new, anti-claimant culture. DWP staff behaving like insurance loss adjusters, rather than dealing with vulnerable claimants in a just and compassionate manner.

      Jeff Smith

      July 14, 2021 at 3:44 pm

      • Knowing how vulnerable people can be, and that some people do not want to be ‘a trouble’, it is gut-wrenchng exploitation.

        Andrew Coates

        July 14, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    • As horrible as this revelation is, its the normal practice of out of court settling
      This is one of those moments though a crack in the Tory veneer exposes and reminds us that this government is running its departments, its country exactly like a business except with built in caveats so as to justify the immoral practices that so often accompany it.

      The beyond crazy thing though is if DWP, this government just left assessing the incapacity of a person to their own GPs then there would be no need to go down this road that is costing the tax payer more.
      How much a year, every year is wasted on third parties creating poor and or incorrect outcomes ?

      When did welfare become more about creating jobs for those not in receipt of any benefits to feed the job stats.

      Doug

      July 15, 2021 at 6:12 am

  14. DWP sees ‘sharp rise’ in benefit death reviews

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57726608

    superted

    July 14, 2021 at 1:33 pm

  15. DWP Universal Credit claimants out of work will be hit hardest if £20 increase cut, research shows
    The decision to scrap the Universal Credit boost has been described as a “terrible mistake”

    https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/dwp-universal-credit-claimants-out-5648190

    superted

    July 14, 2021 at 1:37 pm

  16. MPs pass law banning unvaccinated workers from care homes despite furious revolt.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mps-pass-law-banning-unvaccinated-24528811

    Cloverleaf

    July 14, 2021 at 2:23 pm

    • Not just care homes. Those who opt out of it will find out one way or another.

      xclausx

      July 14, 2021 at 2:47 pm

  17. Yes I know xclausx everyone is being targeted,

    Cloverleaf

    July 14, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    • It’s only right that care workers are vaccinated, in order to protect the ones being cared for. It would be helpful if Hospitality workers were vaccinated too; cooks, chefs, waiting staff, bar staff, hotel staff, etc.

      trev

      July 14, 2021 at 3:39 pm

      • Plus of course visitors. It’s not good just vaccinating the staff, if you have unvaccinated family visitors wandering around.

        George M

        July 14, 2021 at 3:46 pm

      • I wish i could agree but i find myself in contention because vaccines are about offering a moderate level of protection to the individual they are injected into and not those around them.

        Transference is still an issue and while it may appear less in the vaccinated, they can still catch the virus, can still spread the virus. To make matters worse the over 50s and really ill despite fully vaccination are still the most vulnerable, still the most likely to die.

        When we talk about the other work sectors, while we wont see large amounts of fully vaccinated people in hospital at this current juncture and or dying, they are still at risk and so is the economy if large enough numbers succumb to the virus and have to take time of work.

        What this government is attempting to do is get you to accept its here permanently and your to brush it off, ignore previous advice on staying indoors away from people and continue going to work infected.

        Doug

        July 15, 2021 at 6:29 am

      • But Covid IS here permanently! There’s no going back to pre-Covid ‘normality’. The world has changed. Life has changed.

        trev

        July 15, 2021 at 7:26 am

      • While i quite agree Trev lets not lose sight of the facts as we know them currently.

        Both SARS and MERS data confirms exterior protection remains the best preventive measure not just on past controls but due to the efficacy of the vaccines as things stand.
        We currently by government guidance are about to be going about this in reverse.

        The vaccine does not prevent contraction, it negates its effects on the individual infected. This means the infected however minimal in infection is still a host.

        We also have to factor long covid which as it appears when we remove/reduce hospitalization and or death of the initial infection, a far greater threat.

        Doug

        July 15, 2021 at 8:51 am

  18. Cloverleaf

    July 14, 2021 at 3:44 pm

    • The “Dictators” are the ones opposing lockdowns! The Red-Brown front. It is fascistic to oppose the recommendations, requirements and public health advice of the State during a National and International Emergency such as a pandemic.

      trev

      July 14, 2021 at 3:55 pm

      • No the dictators are the criminal governments around the world imposing it.

        Cloverleaf

        July 14, 2021 at 4:08 pm

      • And there we have it, just as Edgar Cayce said, “the polarisation of Thought in a subjective reality”.

        trev

        July 14, 2021 at 4:18 pm

      • @trev- Everyone should be vaccinated, unless there is a valid medical reason for them not to be.

        George M

        July 14, 2021 at 4:49 pm

  19. Iain Duncan Smith has changed his tune!

    “Iain Duncan Smith says it is ‘lunacy’ for Strasbourg to suggest welfare payments need to rise” – IDS, Jan 2014.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/29/uk-benefits-inadequate-council-of-europe

    trev

    July 14, 2021 at 3:47 pm

    • @trev- He’s right, if you mean to force people into cheap-labour work. Rather than offer them the alternative of genuinely sufficient welfare benefits. It’s the eternal Tory idea, give people too much unemployment benefit, and they won’t want to work.

      Jeff Smith

      July 14, 2021 at 4:54 pm

      • That’s what he was saying back then, he was incandescent with rage and absolutely furious at the Council of Europe ruling, but now he’s saying make the extra 20 quid permanent. Has he been visited by some nocturnal spectre rattling it’s chains, or is he playing political games?

        trev

        July 14, 2021 at 5:15 pm

  20. IDS is just a useful idiot who couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery, welcome to clown world trev 🤡🤡🤡.

    Cloverleaf

    July 14, 2021 at 4:11 pm

  21. 14 July 2021
    Response to the permanent secretary’s plans for returning to office working in DWP
    We have told DWP that we believe the government’s decision to remove, at this stage, the legal safeguards that have protected society from Covid-19 is dangerous and reckless.
    PCS has been in ongoing talks with the DWP about how they respond to the government’s strategy.

    PCS welcomes the commitment from the DWP that there will not be a mass return to work at this stage for those staff currently working from home.

    However we strongly oppose the Department’s plans to continue ramping up face to face activity in jobcentres at a time when rates of infection continue to rise in society.

    We will press the department to maintain all existing Covid safety control measures in DWP offices such as:

    Full 2m social distancing
    Use of face coverings
    No return to working in offices for vulnerable staff and those with vulnerable family members
    Continued use of screens in jobcentres.
    Hybrid working

    The issue of hybrid working is connected to the dispute and forms part of our ongoing discussions with the Department about the return to office working.

    PCS does not accept that customer facing staff should be excluded from access to hybrid working and will continue to press for full access to blended working for all DWP staff.

    Further information to follow

    PCS will issue legal advice by personal email in the next few days about action members can take if they feel unsafe at work.

    You can update your personal information including your email address by logging on to PCS Digital

    The group executive committee (GEC) will meet next week to discuss the next steps in our campaign, and a further update will be issued after that.

    superted

    July 14, 2021 at 4:48 pm

  22. 14 July 2021
    Dispute resolution talks over jobcentres
    PCS remain in dispute with the DWP following the consultative ballot of members that work in Jobcentres.
    Formal dispute resolution consultation began between PCS and members of the DWP executive team yesterday. We were clear that members feel even less safe about face to face working now than they did at the time of the ballot as a result of the rapid rise in infections due to the Delta variant of the corona virus.

    We continue to demand that:

    ● Only face to face interviews with those identified as the most vulnerable until the vaccine programme is complete and low rates of infection have been sustained for a significant period

    ● The easements put in place during the pandemic, which have allowed members to focus on paying benefits to those who need them, continue with no escalation in Labour Market activity

    ● Adhering to full work coach empowerment, where they decide how to progress their caseload

    ● A full equality analysis to be carried out on both the extended services and any significant return of staff to offices.

    The DWP has given PCS a commitment to continue the talks with a view to settling the dispute. We are committed to using the mandate given to us by members to secure the safest outcome possible for members.

    We will issue more detailed information in the next few days to update members about the progress of consultation with the Department about the face to face dispute.

    superted

    July 14, 2021 at 4:49 pm

    • Bring back the bullet proof glass they used to have at the dole offices in the 80s & 90s. It used to protect the customers from getting attacked from the DWP Staff not the other way round. Customers need to be protected from angry covid DWP Staff.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 14, 2021 at 8:15 pm

  23. ARE YOU DISABILITY CONFIDENT [WEBSITE]

    Hear how Disability Confident leader, Coca-Cola Europacific Partners, have supported Mo, a merchandiser, into work after 18 years of unemployment, and how reasonable adjustments have helped Christine stay in her role as Sales Manager, after her MS diagnosis.

    Stepping [Contradictions All Over]

    “We’re proud that a huge 17% of Smart Energy GB’s team have a disability. Getting to Disability Confident top level status has helped us unleash that talent and become one of the leading companies for people with disabilities in the energy sector”.

    Dan Brooke, Chief Executive of Smart Energy GB.

    Stepping [Have you any proof of the HUGE 17% of the team have a disability because 17% is HUGE]

    “I would really encourage other businesses to sign up to the Disability Confident scheme. It’s a really thoughtful way of encouraging businesses to make progress on their disability inclusion journey”.

    Tim Fallowfield, Sainsbury’s Company Secretary and Corporate Services Director.

    Stepping [“”to make progress on their disability inclusion journey”” Who’s Journey !!]

    “At a time when the hospitality sector could be facing a skills and labour shortage, we need to make sure we can offer great opportunities for all talented people. Being Disability Confident is just good business sense”.

    Kate Nicholls, Chief Executive, UKHospitality

    Stepping [More Free Promotion]

    “Diversity and inclusion is a business imperative for Sodexo. Being Disability Confident helps us to tap into a wider pool of talent to meet our workforce needs, reflect the diversity of our customers and drive business growth”.

    Megan Horsburgh, Head of Diversity and Inclusion, Sodexo UK & Ireland, and Global Disability Leader

    Stepping [Having Covid is a disability also being on Furlough]

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 14, 2021 at 8:28 pm

    • DISABILITY CONFIDENT HATE CRIME

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 14, 2021 at 8:29 pm

      • Free Promotion for your corporate companies. Utter bullshit & untruths in what they are claiming form the Tory Disability confident contract.

        HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 14, 2021 at 8:30 pm

      • Disability confident has put 300,000 bi-polar people in work – 400,000 suicide risk people in work.

        Well done Tories you have cured 700,000 people with work that cures Tory Suicides.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 14, 2021 at 8:32 pm

      • Tory Online Disability Hate Crime in racist Tory Politicians.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 14, 2021 at 8:33 pm

  24. https://www.fcsa.co.uk/

    if you join the gang and get a section one firearms licence you can buy one tho about 6-15k for a good one single shot bolt action.

    i still want one lol 😉

    superted

    July 14, 2021 at 8:37 pm

  25. A government that says one thing and then the other.

    https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-to-argue-his-levelling-up-project-is-a-win-win-as-he-sets-out-post-pandemic-vision-for-uk-12356074

    Boris will say: “By turbo charging those areas – especially in London and the South East – you drive prices even higher and you force more and more people to move to the same expensive areas and the result is that their COMMUTES ARE LONGER, THEIR TRAINS ARE MORE CROWDED, THEY HAVE LESS TIME WITH THEIR KIDS.

    So can we expect the conditionality of 90 mins travel one way to be changed ?

    Can we expect all these businesses being built outside of city and towns often on routes of a single bus companies buses on the hour, every hour to be built closer ?

    Doug

    July 15, 2021 at 6:41 am

  26. Murders in the supermarkets, murders on the buses & trains, murders in the office, murders not in a face mask, murders in not social distancing, murders on Freedom Day. Well done Boris let’s have another one.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 15, 2021 at 10:06 am

    • Nice One Boris, Nice One Son, Nice One Boris Let’s Murder Another One. Boris Johnson’s Football Chant.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 15, 2021 at 10:08 am

      • I thought that was a Cyrille Regis song gone wrong Boris.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 15, 2021 at 10:09 am

  27. My local jobcentre seems to be trying to get the Work Coaches to ”discuss the possibility” of claimants agreeing to go back to the JC voluntarily. Even though the JC is basically closed for business at the moment. Rather than mandate a return, they seem to be trying to persuade people to do it ?

    Jeff Smith

    July 15, 2021 at 11:57 am

    • @Jeff Smith : Sounds fishy to me Jeff, typical Jobcentre. They never ask when they can tell you straight to do something. The whole return to sign thing is completely fucked at the moment. And so they are just trying it on. And why should people risk it with the Delta variant still going ?

      George M

      July 15, 2021 at 7:00 pm

  28. Restart ‘initial Diagnostic Assessment’ tools

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    Thanks for disclosing your Restart providers ‘initial Diagnostic Assessment’ information:
    Ref: FOI2021/48190
    13 July 2021
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r

    Can you advise on the legislation that requires benefit claimants to answer questions set out in these assessments, when such questions are designed so there is no option to decline to give an answer, such as having an option to a question like:

    ‘prefer not to say’?

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/restart_initial_diagnostic_asses_2#incoming-1834922

    It is not a mandatory requirement for claimants to fill in or sign any provider forms or documents when participating in a provider led mandatory activity or programme.

    https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/2016/01/30/provider-forms-not-a-mandatory-requirement-for-claimants-to-fill-in-or-sign-any-provider-forms-or-documents-when-participating-in-a-provider-led-mandatory-activity-or-programme-freedom-of-info/

    superted

    July 15, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    • Ted, you aren’t required to sign pimps forms anymore that’s gone out of the window.

      Cloverleaf

      July 15, 2021 at 12:51 pm

      • @Cloverleaf

        Doug posted this on the previous strand:

        A legally binding enforceable contract by law no matter the medium Cloverleaf still requires lawful consent of free will.

        What these poverty pimps as you put them are engaging in is whats termed assumed consent.
        Regulations are a breakdown of acts and a summary is a breakdown of regulations. They may sound like they are just talking but really concealed within this discussion is contractual terms.

        The trick is with any such discussion over the phone to ask the person before they get a chance to up sell is does any part of this discussion form the basis for a contractual agreement. Record this conversation (have to inform them by law prior to) and announce while your happy to talk, you at no point over the phone will engage, nor agree of freewill with any conversation relating to terms and conditions towards forming any contracts.

        Over the internet is trickier for them as by law they must inform you prior of any contractual negotiations that what your entering into is such. If there is any doubt, simply abandon the website and contact them direct.

        jj joop

        July 15, 2021 at 6:36 pm

  29. Salt and sugar big tax rise on food and carbon footprint on labels!

    Cloverleaf

    July 15, 2021 at 12:45 pm

    • 53% of all the pollution in the world comes from china and out of 25 of the worst city’s in the world 23 of them are in china.

      so if the uk had 0% pollution it would not make any difference at all like pissing in the sea to turn it yellow.

      so send the green peace boat to china and watch what happens they will fire missiles at it as soon as in there territory.

      and all a sugar tax will do is hit the poorest worst as thats the point and to raise money via tax!

      superted

      July 15, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    • JJ, I wasn’t told this over the phone but by email, it stated because of covid they don’t need my whet signiture, I’m being sent a link next week to get me started on their ‘health and wellbeing course’I have to download an effing app which I won’t be doing they can bog off. The course is how to sleep well, how to eat healthily, coping with stress blah blah blah ffs zzzzzzz.

      Cloverleaf

      July 15, 2021 at 7:29 pm

      • there trying to use the terms and conditions of using there service or app to gain consent and form a contract bit like the bbc do.

        so they dong need a signature so say but they need you to accept the terms and conditions of using said app or any web site you go on and accept the cookies.

        id like to see a wc try a sanction for not downloading a app to your own device or pc in your own home cos at tribunal it will cost them there job!

        you can not be forced in to any contract not of free will no matter what the dwp or provider says they can fuck right off! and i have been doing it for over ten years now lol.

        superted

        July 15, 2021 at 7:44 pm

      • The Jobcentre provide the Stress, you eat as well as you can on the pittance they expect you to live on, and if you’re lucky you sleep well…unless you suffer from night terrors/panic attacks, or like me have health problems that keep you awake such as stomach problems and sleep apnea, and you really should be on the sick but you can’t get a Sick Note because the Doctors are in league with the Establishment /Tory government.

        trev

        July 15, 2021 at 7:58 pm

      • @Cloverleaf

        How did the pimp get hold of your email address in the first place? I’m guessing they got it from the DWP. The first thing you want to do is to tell the DWP they do not have your consent to share your email address and phone number with anyone without your written consent. Do this in writing immediately!

        Has the DWP given you a letter advising you that this is a mandatory provision?

        Is this course a brief one-off or is it part of something bigger, i.e. Restart?

        And finally, have you considered changing your email address? There are dozens and dozens of alternative email providers out there. I’ve got one of my addresses set up on auto-reply. It informs the person trying to contact me – “Thank you for your email. The person you want to contact has set up this account for outgoing emails only. All incoming emails are deleted automatically.”

        jj joop

        July 16, 2021 at 9:44 am

      • Think smart, think fast

        There is no rule or agreement made with DWP that says a claimant cant change their email address like the wind. The only rule is you report any changes.
        Use email account providers that provide the user the facility to make other email addresses contained within the original one you open up.
        Change your spoof email account every time you supply it to DWP and report the change every 12 to 24 hours after.

        Switch off hyperlinks and attachable files from being displayed as this prevents your risk to being scammed.
        DWP cannot force you to accept these prior to you verifying there safety once sent. Showing you them at DWP does not verify them as what they show may and could be different to the one being sent and may be sent by someone pretending to be DWP.
        To click on a link or download a file even in a UC journal put the device your using at possible risk. Tunneling through a website like the UC journal while offering a payer of protect still does not protect the device your using at the time.

        No website even a government one can guarantee absolute safety.

        Is DWP willing to accept legal liability which i can tell you they wont. Does the government and its associate departments have under law an exemption not to have to notify you in the event of to which i can answer yes they do.

        If DWP are willing ( i laugh at the notion) to accept liability then get it in writing (paper/email) with an official header signed by someone of a high level like regional and above.

        Even if you ignore this all and go to said website, terms and conditions apply. To enter into this one must consent. While traditionally its done by a tick box, many sites use the assumed approach which implies by still using the site that you consent.
        Always go to terms and conditions first before doing anything. If no tick box is available, simply exit the website via the x function top right of window used by your device to display web content.

        Regardless of who owns the device, the terms and conditions you are being presented are specifically for you and not the owner of the device on which you accessed it.

        Doug

        July 17, 2021 at 9:34 am

      • https://reedinpartnership.careercentre.me/auth/signin/reed-in-partnership?ck=1

        (d) Each of the provisions of these Terms of Use operates separately. If any court or competent authority decides that any provision is illegal, invalid or unenforceable, the other provisions will remain in full force and effect, and such provision will be replaced with a valid and enforceable provision which achieves to the greatest extent possible the same effect as would have been achieved by the illegal, invalid or unenforceable provision.

        (f) Except to the extent applicable law, if any, provides otherwise, these Terms of Use are governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of England and Wales without regard to its conflict of law rules, and the courts of England and Wales shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any dispute that may arise between you and us in relation to these Terms of Use.

        superted

        July 17, 2021 at 11:29 am

      • Reed in Partnership (“your Institution”) has authorised you (“you” or “your”) to access certain career development resources (the “Services”) which utilise a technology platform provided by Abintegro Limited (“we”, “us” or “our”). The following Terms of Use (“Terms of Use”) apply to your access to and use of the Services, which we may make available through this website and our mobile app, and are separate from, and additional to, the user terms which relate to the use (if any) of the app itself.

        superted

        July 17, 2021 at 11:30 am

  30. Off topic*

    Grassroots climate change activism in Poland:

    trev

    July 15, 2021 at 1:35 pm

    • so what happens when yellow stone park explodes then and blokes out the sun for months should be nice and cold then pmsl.

      they cant even work out how the pyramids was made let alone control the hole worlds weather system and china will still say fuck that anyway.

      what we need is ww3 😉

      superted

      July 15, 2021 at 5:01 pm

      • No need for WW3, relax, Armageddon is well under way…

        trev

        July 15, 2021 at 8:00 pm

  31. A Vaccine Hotline is needed, so that people can inform the authorities if they are aware of people who refuse to be vaccinated.

    George M

    July 15, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    • but you can not be vaccinated from covid because it is only a treatment it wont stop you getting it or passing it on or a new variant rendering it useless anyway same as the flu has done for millions of years of humans living on this planet and not 1 country has ever controlled any virus going back 1000s of years.

      so say 100% of ppl get both jabs and still test positive what do you do then o yes i forgot more lock downs based on cases not deaths sounds like a good idea just give it 6-8 weeks for the numbers to keep rising get the emergency powers through for another 6 months and carry on as is.

      superted

      July 15, 2021 at 7:59 pm

  32. Ted, pimps have sent me the link to download their app 3 times now , I delete link every time 😉 I have no intentions of being a cash cow for those f-ing parasites.

    Cloverleaf

    July 15, 2021 at 8:16 pm

    • id ring them up and say stop emailing me spam as wont be using your service you wont be downloading any app or logging in to there web portal and wont be installing java script hacking software.

      assumed consent is not given or ever will be there is no contract and you dont allow them to process your personnel data and to remove it from there system.

      this company is now harassing you for a service you dont want to use and id report them to the police as making you wanting to commit suicide.

      superted

      July 15, 2021 at 8:28 pm

  33. … They also keep sending me a link to fill out a questionnaire to rate their service, that also gets deleted 💤 povos can do one.

    Cloverleaf

    July 15, 2021 at 8:44 pm

  34. DWP agrees to stop high-pressure tactics on eve of court hearing

    By John Pring [DNS] on 15th July 2021

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has agreed to stop intimidating disabled claimants into accepting lower benefit payments than they are entitled to, hours before it was due to face a high court hearing over its tactics.

    Work and pensions secretary Therese Coffey agreed on the eve of the judicial review hearing to change policies described as “unfair, unlawful and discriminatory” and to retrain staff.

    Her department was facing a legal claim brought by a disabled woman who was left so distraught by its high-pressure tactics that she tried to take her own life.

    The settlement is just the latest evidence of an unsafe and institutionally disablist culture at the department, after a decade of high-profile tragedies, legal cases, campaigns, research, protests, television exposés, parliamentary debates, and reports by MPs and organisations into how the department’s benefits regime impacts on disabled people.

    Lawyers for a disabled woman, referred to as K, had gathered evidence for her case against DWP that showed that disabled claimants who had appealed a DWP decision on their benefit claim were often being called by the department and encouraged to accept offers that were lower than they were entitled to by law.

    They also found evidence that DWP staff had repeatedly called claimants directly, even when they had been told to liaise with their representatives, and had failed to tell them about their appeal rights.

    K, who has high support needs due to physical and mental health conditions, had appealed against DWP’s decision to award her a lower rate of personal independence payment (PIP) than her GP and support workers believed she was entitled to.

    But she then received a call from DWP, without warning and from a withheld number, pressuring her to accept more than she had been offered before, but not the full amount she was entitled to.

    She was told she had an hour to consider the “offer” and was warned that it was “scary going to a tribunal”.

    There was no call from DWP to K’s mother, who DWP had been told on her paperwork was her representative.

    K did not think she could appeal the new “offer” and DWP failed to tell her about her right to do so.

    She decided to accept the offer, but the experience left her feeling suicidal and struggling to cope.

    And when she later realised DWP had been using the same tactics on other disabled claimants, she instructed Public Law Project to help her challenge the policy through the courts.

    She said: “The caller from the DWP told me I had one hour to think about it and said that if I accepted the offer then the tribunal appeal would be cancelled, but if I didn’t accept the offer then I could lose the whole award at the tribunal.

    “I was imagining me in a big court room trying to argue my case on my own and with my whole PIP award at risk.

    “They called me back before I could speak to my mum, so I just accepted the offer as I didn’t know what else to do.

    “I felt I had been pressured into making the wrong decision and I didn’t know how to put it right.”

    DWP says the call was made as part of a process known as “lapsing an appeal”, where the department can revise a decision if new evidence or information becomes available after an appeal has been lodged, but before it is heard at a tribunal.

    DWP claims it contacts claimants in cases where it has enough evidence to revise the decision to a higher award, but not to the level the claimant was seeking on appeal, to find out how the claimant wants to proceed.

    It says that, if a claimant chooses to have their decision revised, they still have appeal rights and that these are set out in the subsequent decision notice.

    But K, who had previously tried to take her own life, said: “I felt awful after the call, really panicked, anxious and upset.

    “I felt like I had been pressured into making the wrong decision. I obsessed about the call for weeks.

    “I was paranoid that I was being targeted by the DWP and again I tried to take my own life.”

    She said the way DWP treated people was “disgusting”.

    She added: “The DWP call had a serious and negative affect on my mental health at a time when I was already really struggling.

    “It haunted me for a long time, affected my sleep and made me really ill.

    “I felt I had been pressured into making the wrong decision and I didn’t know how to put it right.

    “I now know that lots of other people felt the same as me when getting these calls.

    “It’s really not right and it needs to stop.”

    Sara Lomri, K’s solicitor at Public Law Project, said: “It has not been easy for our client to bring this claim.

    “This challenge has demanded a huge amount of personal resilience and determination.

    “Our client does not stand to gain any sort of pay-out here, she is doing this simply to make sure that nobody else has to go through what she did.”

    She added: “Judicial review is always a last resort, and this case shows why there must be an accessible legal route for people to hold public authorities to account.

    “The law is there for us all to follow, and when the state makes a mistake, acts unlawfully, and will not change itself, there must be a way to correct it.”

    A DWP spokesperson declined to explain how such a policy could have been introduced; whether it would apologise for its actions; or whether those actions again suggested that the department was institutionally disablist and not fit for purpose.

    But he said in a statement: “Our overarching aim is that claimants are paid the correct amount of benefit at the earliest opportunity.

    “We contact people if we can revise a decision and increase their benefits award as a result of new evidence becoming available after their appeal was lodged – and they always have the option to continue with their appeal or challenge a revised decision.

    “We have addressed PLP’s concerns by improving our guidance on telephone calls so options and appeal rights are always clearly set out, as well as stopping making contact when a tribunal is imminent, and we are pleased they have withdrawn their case.”

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 15, 2021 at 9:18 pm

    • DWP admission that have been intimidating disabled claimants policy.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 15, 2021 at 9:18 pm

      • “””Work and pensions secretary Therese Coffey agreed on the eve of the judicial review hearing to change policies described as “unfair, unlawful and discriminatory” and to retrain staff.”””

        DWP on admission it is unlawful DWP policy.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 15, 2021 at 9:19 pm

      • DWP start begging for mercy of the judicial review hearing. DWP Guilty As Charged.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        July 15, 2021 at 9:21 pm

  35. Reblogged this on Tory Britain! .

    A6er

    July 15, 2021 at 10:55 pm

  36. I like how these providers just assume everyone will download their apps no questions asked.

    Their app is probably full of spyware.

    Bigbird

    July 16, 2021 at 8:09 am

  37. So. what’s happening in the court case about the £20 for the legacy claimants ? In my opinion we all ought to get the money, the back-pay and a fucking apology as well.

    George M

    July 16, 2021 at 11:38 am

    • “what’s happening…” What, indeed. A Court judgment was expected in July and we’re still waiting. The chances of us getting the money we’re owed are looking remarkably slim. More chance of getting blood out of a stone than getting equality and justice from a Tory government

      trev

      July 16, 2021 at 1:43 pm

  38. If the legacy claimants were animals they would be a protected species. With all the rights and benefits that means. But because they are human beings, most of them anyway, the DWP can do what they like.

    Jeff Smith

    July 16, 2021 at 11:48 am

    • This is ridiculous, Covid is spreading like wildfire as infections sky rocket, yet my Jobcentre is opening and I’m expected to attend on Tuesday.

      West Yorkshire hospitals flooded with ‘critical’ under 45-year-old Covid sufferers who have not had a single jab

      https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/health/huddersfield-calderdale-hospitals-flooded-critical-21061926

      trev

      July 16, 2021 at 1:35 pm

    • There have been a string of pubs in central Ipswich which have had to close temporarily (most of them after Sunday’s Euro match) because of people signalled with the Virus. Some are now open again.

      I lay a hefty bet that this is happening across the country.

      What will take place after ‘Freedom Day’ is predictable.

      Andrew Coates

      July 16, 2021 at 7:56 pm

      • Test and trace: 10 per cent of Nissan workers told to self isolate

        Hundreds of staff at Nissan’s Sunderland car plant have been told to self isolate by the NHS Test and Trace app, as Covid-19 case numbers have spiked in the area.

        Roughly 700 workers have been “pinged” by the app, causing disruption to the plant’s production.

        Sunderland reported 955 Covid cases per 100,000 people last week, over three times higher than the average in England.

        https://www.cityam.com/test-and-trace-10-per-cent-of-nissan-workers-told-to-self-isolate/

        i bet if you got to sign on at the jcp office this will mean nothing to them and will still have to attend or else as the dwp are covid free once you enter the building as in another dimension once inside.

        superted

        July 16, 2021 at 10:17 pm

      • 47% of vaccinated people make up new cases.

        https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/health-healing/covid-jab-fail-47-of-new-cases-are-in-the-fully-vaccinated/

        Before beginning i must point out where they took the data from does not indicate how many doses the infected person/s had.

        So we are roughly looking at around 48.5% of the population best case to 100% of population still at risk of contracting the virus irrespective of hospitalization and or death.
        Its impossible to say at this stage unless new data is made available how effective 2 doses lowers this figure. Either way though 48.5% is an unacceptable figure.

        If you can catch a virus, you can transmit it.

        Tests have proven thus far while a vaccine cannot prevent contraction, it can lower the effects which also means should lower the percentage at which a fully vaccinated person can successfully transmit the infection to others dependent on circumstances considering the current strains in play only.

        I believe we are still some way from opening large venues despite whether they are allowed to but regardless, places like large businesses and supermarkets remain just as equal a threat to exposure.

        A person isnt the only way to get infected.

        While the infection starts with a person spreading it, it does not take the actual person to be present to become infected. Surfaces present an equal threat dependent of time of contact.
        If for whatever reason contact with a infected surface happens then its totally possible to continue spreading the virus regardless of the person not being infected themselves.

        It at current levels of vaccination daily doses would take around a year to a year and a half to fully vaccinate everyone in the UK that could be vaccinated.

        Doug

        July 17, 2021 at 8:59 am

      • Health Secretary Sajid Javid tests positive for Covid

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57874744

        trev

        July 17, 2021 at 2:54 pm

      • “Coronavirus doctor’s diary: Unvaccinated patients with many regrets”

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57866661

        trev

        July 17, 2021 at 3:00 pm

      • Its always easy to cry after the fact Trev when you realize it could never happen to you, not now is just a false sense of security built upon a lack of understanding as to what makes an asymptomatic and how bulletproof that is long term.

        Doug

        July 18, 2021 at 7:20 am

  39. Ex-Bullingdon Club member appointed to Whitehall’s sleaze watchdog

    Ewen Fergusson, a university friend of Boris Johnson, approved for position by No 10

    Guardian 15th July 2021

    A former Bullingdon Club member and university friend of Boris Johnson has been appointed to Whitehall’s independent sleaze watchdog, the Guardian can disclose.

    Ewen Fergusson, a City solicitor, was announced on Thursday as one of two new members for the committee on standards in public life. A Whitehall source said the appointment was approved by No 10.

    Fergusson, who has spent most of his career at international law firm Herbert Smith Freehills, appeared behind Johnson and two along from David Cameron in the infamous 1987 photograph of the exclusive, male-only Oxford dining club. Permission to republish the photograph has since been withdrawn by Gillman & Soame, the Oxford portrait photographers who hold the copyright.

    Read More of Full Article Guardian

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 17, 2021 at 8:44 am

    • More sleaze bags.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 17, 2021 at 8:45 am

  40. Get ready for Freedom Loony Day on Monday.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 17, 2021 at 8:46 am

    • I Bet You Boris Johnson’s Hair Brush He Don’t Use It.

      I Bet You Michael Gove’s Camouflage Combat Summer Shorts

      I Bet You Grant ‘Shitty’ Shapps Is Taking A Nap

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      July 17, 2021 at 8:49 am

  41. superted

    July 17, 2021 at 11:34 am

  42. @jj joop, DWP sent my email address to the pimps without my permission, I did not agree to go on jets with reed in partnership with the devil, I told coach I wasn’t interested, but he said I was going on it anyway as it would be good for me and would help me into employment.DWP did not issue me with a letter advising me the provision is mandatory, you don’t get letters while on UC, they contact you via the journal or by phone. If I change email address will they send it to the pimps?

    Cloverleaf

    July 17, 2021 at 12:29 pm

    • imo if you change the email you use for the journal would mean making a new claim for uc with the new email address or change to a non digital claim for uc where no email address is needed.

      buy law the dwp can give out your email and phone numbers to providers as a way to get you in to employment or training.

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/non_digital_uc_claim

      superted

      July 17, 2021 at 12:41 pm

    • Cloverleaf

      You go into your home page and select the change of circumstances box followed by personal details. From here you enter that you have a new email.
      I fail to see how this requires a new claim, especially in the light that UC is aimed a workers whom circumstances regularly change. Perhaps superted could impart some documentation to shed some light on this so all the facts are known.

      Regardless of this a phone claim isnt a bad idea as while it cant stop a person being solicited via phone, it does cut down on the need to conform to the online journal. With that said though receiving unsolicited phone calls even outside of UC has become quite the nuisance so remember your trading one evil for another, one that often pays on the fact of real time to trip people up which is something to the case through the journal which affords time to process ones thoughts before replying.

      Either way i wish you the best of luck no matter the choice.

      Doug

      July 18, 2021 at 8:25 am

  43. No point in changing email address then.

    Cloverleaf

    July 17, 2021 at 12:45 pm

  44. Thanks Ted.

    Cloverleaf

    July 17, 2021 at 1:38 pm

  45. Rishi Sunak facing probe over use of poverty statistics https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAMg6sp?m=en-gb&referrerID=InAppShare

    xclausx

    July 17, 2021 at 7:57 pm

    • i bet he wont be showing his face in any job centers after the cut comes in that’s a sure fact.

      superted

      July 17, 2021 at 9:12 pm

  46. It can’t be right for the DWP to start dragging people back into the Jobcentres as the third wave of Covid-19 starts up. This is completely irresponsible, and easily avoided if they stay on telephone appointments.
    But no, they just can’t bear the thought that people are lounging around at home not doing a proper jobsearch.

    Jeff Smith

    July 18, 2021 at 10:52 am

  47. There is a cult in Caxton House,
    Employment is its creed,
    And it forces people into work,
    They neither want nor need.

    It does so with great cruelty,
    Poverty and despair,
    Because it was set up like this,
    By people who just don’t care.

    They mean to run society,
    In their own brutal way,
    To force, condemn and sanction,
    No matter what you say.

    Random Poet

    July 18, 2021 at 11:08 am

  48. UK prison towns built next door to crematoria.

    Cloverleaf

    July 18, 2021 at 1:25 pm

  49. 10 Covid Cabinet Ministers Sitting On The Wall & If 1 Covid Cabinet Minster Should Accidentally Fall There’ll Be 9 Covid Cabinet Ministers Sitting On The Wall & If 1 Covid Cabinet Minster Should Accidentally Fall There’ll Be 8 Covid Cabinet Ministers Sitting On The Wall.

    Falling Like Green Bottle Flies !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 19, 2021 at 8:53 am

  50. How’s it going on Freedom Loony Day !!!

    I Thought Freedom Loony Day Was Yesterday!!

    Is that what they will be saying on Tuesday!!

    How about Freedom Loony Week!!!

    Freedom Loony Boris Johnson & The Labs on Tour Year !!

    How Many U Turns Can You Do On A Roundabout Boris!!!

    Is that not dangerous & Useless !!!

    One Useless Gamble – I Bet You Boris Johnson’s Hair Brush He Don’t Use It

    Not Even A Useless Gamble!!

    Freedom Loony Year 2021

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 19, 2021 at 11:23 am

  51. UPLIFT END Millions on Universal Credit not yet sent letters warning about £20 a week benefits cut that’s just weeks away

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/15628807/universal-credit-letters-warning-benefits-cut-end-uplift/

    superted

    July 19, 2021 at 11:54 am

    • Doesn’t make any sense really as the online Journal is supposed to be the way the DWP communicates with Universal Credit recipients. I mean the whole idea of the Journal was to stop having to send letters and make phone calls to as many people as possible.

      Aleister

      July 19, 2021 at 4:24 pm

  52. Finally they have isolated the virus.

    Cloverleaf

    July 19, 2021 at 1:21 pm

  53. 60% of people admitted to hospital are double jabbed.

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317

    If that wasnt bad enough news, it turns out the astrazeneca vaccine isnt really effective against the new beta variant either.
    All this bad news only now to be told care workers, NHS staff with double jabs can ignore isolation and work with the vulnerable.

    This raises questions

    1: Of this 60% how many while having both doses didnt make it to the time frame that the vaccine took full effect.

    2: Of this 60% how many are considered high risk/vulnerable to the virus regardless of vaccine (ie the group over 60 and or ill).

    3: What percentage of people testing positive regardless of being admitted to hospital or self treating isolation (ie at home) have had 2 doses and what percentage are in the at risk groups. Was previously 47%

    This is important i feel as it gives us an idea of what life is going to be like for us each dependent on the group/s we fall in.

    Doug

    July 19, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    • What a good time to lift safety restrictions, great timing by PM Johnson.

      trev

      July 19, 2021 at 6:35 pm

      • @trev- They are trying to get herd immunity by the back door. Thinking that they can get away with the increased deaths under cover of public relief over ‘Freedom Day’. It’s irresponsible, and you can bet there will be restrictions back in use by September.

        Jeff Smith

        July 19, 2021 at 8:06 pm

      • 5.Deaths registered in the year-to-date
        There were 244,144 deaths registered in England and 15,591 in Wales during the first five months (January to May) of 2021.

        To gain a better idea of year-to-year differences in mortality rates, we calculated year-to-date age-standardised mortality rates (ASMR) based on deaths registered in January to May of each year from 2001 to 2021 (Figure 5). For England, the year-to-date age-standardised mortality rate for 2021 was 1,062.6 deaths per 100,000 people, which was statistically significantly lower than the same period in 2020 (1,203.5 deaths per 100,000 people). However, when compared with the same period in 2019 (976.3 deaths per 100,000 people), the 2021 year-to-date mortality rate was significantly higher.

        https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/may2021

        superted

        July 19, 2021 at 8:17 pm

    • Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine

      In Moderna’s eyes, the one-in-million disease looked like an ideal candidate for mRNA therapy. The company crafted a string of mRNA that would encode for the missing enzyme, believing it had hit upon an excellent starting point to prove technology could be used to treat rare diseases.

      But things gradually came apart last year.

      Every drug has what’s called a therapeutic window, the scientific sweet spot where a treatment is powerful enough to have an effect on a disease but not so strong as to put patients at too much risk. For mRNA, that has proved elusive.

      In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.

      Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators said. The safe dose was too weak, and repeat injections of a dose strong enough to be effective had troubling effects on the liver in animal studies.

      https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

      DARPA Awards Moderna Therapeutics A Grant For Up To $25 Million To Develop Messenger RNA Therapeutics

      https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/darpa-awards-moderna-therapeutics-a-grant-for-up-to-25-million-to-develop-messenger-rna-therapeutics-226115821.html

      so not enough and it does nothing and too much and it kills you thus why it never got to human trials in the first place it does not work!

      superted

      July 19, 2021 at 7:26 pm

    • Looking at our history of Sars a herd immunity does not seem to exist for various reasons.
      On the two previous outbreaks in the early 2000s with no vaccine to be found, isolation and hygiene proved to be the keys to stemming its march on humans.

      We already know immunity after being infected does not last long against the original disease and is non existent when it comes to a mutation. The virus while spreading among people targets those with illnesses whether diagnosed or not which as we know is quite prevalent while not exclusive in people over 60.
      Of those that get infected whether ill or not, percentage exist to go onto getting long covid that effectively acts as a filling point for those already at risk.

      Mitigation as yet seems to be the only possible outcome currently but how successful this is has proven to be quite an open question in the light of recent data. Asymptomatic’s and those who only suffer minimal effects at this juncture seem to be the only ones who are going to walk away from this without a life change.

      More understanding, more data is needed to know if all we are currently doing is slowing down an eventual inevitability.

      Doug

      July 20, 2021 at 5:38 am

  54. Billionaires Gates and Soros have joined the acquisition of UK company Mologic, which helped develop CoV-19 rapid lateral flow tests.

    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/19/think-covid-is-over-think-again-bill-gates-george-soros-have-just-joined-the-buyout-of-a-uk-covid-testing-company/

    Cloverleaf

    July 19, 2021 at 7:41 pm

  55. Government already backtracking on claimed 60% double jabbed admittance figures.

    Experts claim its 40% which while an improvement is still far too high a percentage.

    Doug

    July 20, 2021 at 5:41 am

  56. How can there be rules if the rules keep changing every day. How can anyone keep up with the rules if they change everyday. How can some been held responsible if they change the rules everyday. Boris you are using the DWP tactics.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 20, 2021 at 7:14 am

  57. 6 Million people going “We’re on & off Furlough like a yo yo”.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    July 20, 2021 at 7:15 am

  58. I attended my appointment at the Jobcentre this morning, which according to their letter was to be a “work search review”, but which I saw as being a ‘Signing’ appointment. It was neither really. I arrived a little early but wasn’t allowed in until bang on time. I didn’t recognise the Work Coach, a woman sitting behind a plastic screen. She asked me to confirm my address and then asked if I was alright and was there anything I needed that they could help me with, I said an extra £20 per week would do. She then explained that I could have done by going on to Universal Credit, and began explaining how you can get an advance on UC so that you’re no worse off etc. I told her that I’ve witnessed the effects of Universal Credit first hand as I work at the foodbank. That shut her up. Basically she said the purpose of this appointment was just to see if there’s anything we need any help with and if there’s anything more they the Jobcentre can do for you, so I asked about access to the computers for doing jobsearch. She went and asked someone and said I can call in with out booking a time but it’s first come first served and there’s only three computers in use. I held my phone up to the screen to show her what I’d applied for, slowly scrolling down through the confirmation emails and she was satisfied with that, nothing more than a quick look really. Then she said my time was up and would I like to continue with face-to-face appointments in the Jobcentre or would I prefer to continue with the fortnightly telephone appointments, I chose the latter. I wasn’t required to sign anything, either electronically or on paper, so automatic payments are in continuous process once they’ve spoken to you either by phone or in person and confirmed that nothing has changed. So that’s that. As you were.

    trev

    July 20, 2021 at 11:27 am

    • @trev

      You’re lucky. I have to go in every fortnight. It only lasts about 5 minute max and I don’t get any grief but still, I’d rather just have telephone appointments.

      jj joop

      July 20, 2021 at 11:57 am

    • @trev- Good for you Trev, telling it straight to them about Universal Credit. And you should know, volunteering at the foodbank. I bet most of your customers are on Universal Credit.

      Jeff Smith

      July 20, 2021 at 2:05 pm

      • Jeff, when UC was (partially) unleashed ..erm..rolled out.. in my area just a few years ago the foodbank saw a 300% increase in referrals. That says it all.

        trev

        July 20, 2021 at 4:32 pm

    • P.S.

      There were a couple of G4 guards manning the door, asking people to wear a facemask and I heard one say to someone that if they don’t want to wear one then they have to have the appointment in a small interview room and not in the main floor area where the work coaches are seated behind screens at their desks.

      trev

      July 20, 2021 at 8:50 pm

    • P.P.S.

      I asked the coachy woman what the other new ‘pop-up’ Jobcentre is for, that has appeared in my town, and she replied that it is for young claimants, so I take it that means 16 – 24 yr olds though she didn’t say how old just “young”. When you get into your 60s everyone in the Jobcentre seems young!

      trev

      July 20, 2021 at 8:56 pm

  59. 19 July 2021
    Health and Safety for DWP staff
    PCS has made clear to the Department that despite the government lifting many of the legally enforceable protections in England, and future dates in Scotland and Wales, the union expects our members’ safety to be the number one priority.
    New guidance
    Despite the new guidance in place in England from 19 July, it is clear to us all that we are still far from out of the woods in terms of infection rates and the risks to our members. We maintain our view that it is crucial that DWP still keep measures in place to protect our members and those who use our services. We have demanded:
    ● Staff be allowed to still work from home where possible
    ● There is no mass return to the workplace until it is safe
    ● Face coverings should still be worn in our workplaces
    ● Social distancing should still apply
    ● We should restrict customers physically attending our offices
    ● Screens should remain in Jobcentres.

    No changes in DWP – talks continue
    The message from DWP rightly is that everyone should continue operating the safeguards we have in our workplaces, with no relaxations.

    Consultation continues on a new Covid risk assessment and what the changes in the wider societal position means for us, if anything. In the meantime carry on as you were before.

    We will continue to monitor the infection rates and the situation within DWP sites.

    Jobcentres
    PCS remains opposed to the extension of face to face services in Jobcentres and are still in dispute.

    Further negotiations with DWP are being held this week and the GEC will also meet on Wednesday and Thursday. Further information will be issued to members after that.

    superted

    July 20, 2021 at 11:41 am

    • Talk-talk-talk! That’s all the PCS do and that’s all they’ll ever do. Just make with the yakety yak.

      jj joop

      July 20, 2021 at 11:53 am

  60. superted

    July 20, 2021 at 12:19 pm

  61. 20 July 2021
    Dealing with extreme heat in DWP workplaces
    The Met Office has issued its first ever Amber Extreme Heat Warning as large areas of the UK will continue to see hot conditions this week.
    Although there is no legal maximum for temperature, under health, safety and welfare legislation managers are responsible for ensuring that staff work in a comfortable working environment.

    The DWP office environment guide states that the ideal working temperature for DWP sites is between 21 and 23 degrees. However, many parts of the UK have had temperatures in the 30s recently, so there is likely to be an issue in our offices.

    Covid Safety measures
    Unfortunately, many of the air conditioning systems in our offices cannot be used due to covid safety. We can only use air conditioning that extracts and exchanges the air not the type that recirculates the air as this could potentially spread covid especially if there are asymptomatic people in our offices. This also prevents the use of fans unless someone is in a room on their own. If you have windows that can be opened and create a through draft, then use them.

    There are things the office manager can do to make it more comfortable for people to work in the office

    Open as many doors and windows as possible, but never wedge open fire doors. It is important to have windows on both sides of the building open. This will encourage cross-flow ventilation. In windy conditions it is better to have all the windows open a little rather than a few open a lot
    Ensure blinds are closed properly on the sunny side of the building to reduce solar gain. In summer the windows on the eastern side will have been exposed to the sun for some hours before staff arrive for work so unless there are reasons not to, e.g. specific security concerns, close these blinds before leaving for the day.
    Allow staff frequent breaks to have drinks of cold water to combat the effects of dehydration
    If practical, move staff into rooms less affected by solar gain
    Allow regular breaks in the open air
    Extend lunch breaks allowing full flexi credit for any extension
    Staff public caller areas on a rota basis to allow the benefit of regular breaks in the open air
    Consider sending home any officer particularly at risk, e.g. those who are not in the best of health, allowing full flexi credit for absences
    If practical, increase home visiting and allow staff to write cases up at home
    Consider relaxation of dress code standards
    Consider home working
    Staff who work standard hours should not be expected to make up lost time when extended breaks or early departures are allowed.
    Raise an incident
    In dealing with overheating problems it is essential that site managers keep all occupants and the trade union appointed safety rep fully informed.

    When office temperatures rise above a threshold of thermal comfort and the problem affects more than one individual, is widespread or affects the whole building, site managers should contact the helpdesk (0870 606 0065) and raise an incident or contact the appointed service provider on non DWP estate sites.

    Complete an accident corm
    If you are too hot and it is uncomfortable to work complete an accident form at SOARS (sheassure.net). Please copy your local health and safety rep in so that they can identify the extent of the problem and negotiate with local managers the measures that can be put in place to help alleviate the problems.

    In these high temperatures it is important that control measures are put in place to mitigate the situation. Heat stress can cause severe problems to the individual so should not be ignored.

    Heat stress can affect individuals in different ways, and some people are more susceptible to it than others.
    Typical symptoms are:
    • an inability to concentrate
    • muscle cramps
    • heat rash
    • severe thirst – a late symptom of heat stress
    • fainting
    • heat exhaustion – fatigue, giddiness, nausea, headache, moist skin
    • heat stroke – hot dry skin, confusion, convulsions and eventual loss of consciousness. This is the most severe disorder and can result in death if not detected at an early stage.

    superted

    July 20, 2021 at 2:23 pm

    • I wonder if the G4SS goons will continue to confiscate pop/water/coffees etc. under the circumstances? I was in Jobcentre this morning with a bottle of water in my pocket but no one noticed. I have seen them get arsey with people in the past, “no drinks allowed”. Since getting back home I’ve been quenching my thirst and keeping fluid levels up on cheap Aldi lager, £2.79 for a 4 pack, 4.8%.

      trev

      July 20, 2021 at 4:44 pm

  62. Child Benefit: Boris Johnson urged to implement £10 weekly rise to combat poverty
    THE GOVERNMENT is being advised to increase each child payment covered by Universal Credit by at least £10 per week, the latest report from the Social Mobility Commission (SMC) has suggested.

    https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1465213/child-benefit-commission-boris-johnson-social-mobility-increase-week

    superted

    July 20, 2021 at 3:16 pm

  63. I notice nobody is saying anything about the Legacy Claimants ?

    George M

    July 20, 2021 at 5:44 pm

    • And nobody will George, we are as outcasts, lepers, rejects, untouchables, persona non grata, the undeserving poor, and no one gives a fuck.

      trev

      July 20, 2021 at 6:05 pm

  64. superted

    July 20, 2021 at 10:49 pm

  65. Council algorithms mass profile millions of claimants

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57869647

    Doug

    July 21, 2021 at 6:58 am

  66. What would you all do if this universal credit temporary ‘uplift’ were to became permanent, like set in DWP stone, and JSA remained the same? Would you still cling to your JSA ‘lifeline’ (geddit? , you can thank the missus for that one, she has a right bleedin’ sense of humour 😀 ) or would you launch the life-raft and jump ship to the Good Ship Universal Credit? Seems like a no-brainer, you have £1040 nicker worth of sanctions a year stuffed in your back pocket to be no worse off than if you remained holed up in your bunker on the Good Ship JSA 😀

    fred

    July 21, 2021 at 10:23 am

    • PS When I wrote set in DWP stone the missus nudged me and said I should write ‘chiselled onto Coffee’s fat arse’ 😀 I am bleedin’ well telling you, you don’t know the bleedin’ half of it 😀

      fred

      July 21, 2021 at 10:29 am


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