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the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS), who count a number of Jobcentre workers among their members, fears that this could also lead to a rise in the number of benefit claimants who are subjected to sanctions.

Requirements placed on benefit claimaints prior to the pandemic meant that vulnerable people could see their benefit payments for failing to adhere to strict and often unreasonable criteria.

This includes people who saw their benefits stopped or reduced for being a few minutes late for an appointment, due to travel issues, or missing a meeting due to being in hospital.

These sometimes draconian rules were temporary suspended during the Covid-19 pandemic, but are now being slowly reintroduced as the country gradually recovers from the pandemic.

Today we learn:

Thousands of people’s benefits cut by DWP sanctions in Birmingham and Black Country

Birmingham Live.

The financial penalties are imposed on those claiming Universal Credit, Jobseeker’s Allowance, Employment & Support Allowance and Income Support.

Thousands of people across the West Midlands have seen their benefits cut by the Department for Work and Pensions.

Sanctions have been imposed on claimants in the Black Country boroughs of Dudley, Sandwell, Sandwell, and Walsall as well as in neighbouring Birmingham and Solihull.

These are penalties when the DWP says someone has failed to stick to the rules of a benefit claim such as by missing a work coach appointment, training course or job interview. Others are for reasons such as being late to sign on for Jobseeker’s Allowance.


But there have been cases where claimants said it was not their fault. A former Birmingham bus driver was sanctioned after he missed the DWP’s online notifications of appointments because he could no longer afford his home internet service when he lost his job.

Between April 2019 and October 2020, statistics show that 4,899 UC recipients were sanctioned in Sandwell, 4,172 in Wolverhampton, 4,039 in Dudley and 3,796 in Walsall.

By far the most Universal Credit sanctions were in Birmingham where 22,632 claimants had money docked as a punishment.


A further 2,241 UC recipients were penalised in Solihull borough.

See: A survival guide to benefit sanctions

This guide will help you to plan ahead to avoid a benefit sanction where possible, and if not, will help you to work out what to do about it. This guide is for you if you want to avoid getting sanctioned, work out what to do about a benefits sanction, or understand more about how the benefit sanctions system works.

Written by Andrew Coates

May 4, 2021 at 3:18 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on Tory Britain! .

    A6er

    May 4, 2021 at 3:21 pm

  2. It’s usually the new claimants who get themselves sanctioned. They often don’t realise how strict the benefits system is these days. They miss an appointment, or a telephone sign-in, and then bingo, that’s their benefits gone for the month. It seems so stupid and cruel, that they don’t seem to believe it will happen to them, until it does.

    Jeff Smith

    May 4, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    • It was also the most vulnerable who were most at risk of Sanctions, as I have witnessed myself, people whose first language is not English and those lacking literacy skills and/or computer literacy, those with learning difficulties. I saw a woman get sanctioned in Bradford Jobcentre once because she had applied for a part time cleaning job and didn’t realise it was in Hartlepool as she didn’t know how to filter search results, and she was foreign and didn’t even seem to understand why she was being Sanctioned.

      trev

      May 4, 2021 at 4:34 pm

      • @trev: And the training providers Trev, they are some of the very worst for sanctions. I once heard a Pinnacle People staff member saying that they always sanctioned first ”whatever the reason”, when I got sent on a 4 week placement. Even medical conditions, sickness, anything. And we had to complete a timesheet with every minute written down. Luckily the manageress was fairly lenient, and a couple of times one of the guys was late, she let him off and didn’t tell the Pinnacle rep. Or he’d have been sanctioned for sure. And if you ring them up it’s like talking to prison staff, that’s the attitude they take to you.

        George M

        May 4, 2021 at 5:01 pm

      • Pillocking People, yep I did two months with those fuckers.

        trev

        May 4, 2021 at 5:09 pm

  3. All the Tory voters thought DWP sanctions on Universal Credit was a myth. The Tory voters also though Work For Your Benefits was a vote winner. Now all the Tory voters do is moan about sanctions & Work For Your Benefit. Tory Myths are vote winners. Universal Credit is a sanctions policy that is why it is called Universal Credit. Universal Credit can’t work without sanctioning.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 4, 2021 at 4:41 pm

  4. Sanctions are wrong and should be abolished. Stop punishing the poor. Pushing poor people into destitution does not improve their employability. Sanctions have been proved to be ineffective and counterproductive, why do they continue? Why doesn’t the Labour party, i.e. The Opposition, speak out against Benefit Sanctions? Under Miliband Labour supported the use of Sanctions and saw them as “a vital tool in helping people back to work”, as they informed me in an email at the time (hence they didn’t get my vote), but what is Labour’s position now?

    trev

    May 4, 2021 at 4:42 pm

  5. Perhaps MP’s need to be sanctioned – Most popular being insulting on Social Media.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 4, 2021 at 4:44 pm

  6. Another Tory Myth There are public toilets are Job Centres & unemployed people watch daytime TV, fits with furlough.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 4, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    • As though there’s something wrong with watching daytime tv.

      trev

      May 4, 2021 at 5:52 pm

      • @trev- What’s the point of making daytime TV if nobody is going to watch it ?

        George M

        May 5, 2021 at 12:21 pm

      • Daytime TV perfect for people on furlough.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 5, 2021 at 7:28 pm

      • And those on Lockdown.

        trev

        May 5, 2021 at 7:32 pm

      • Cash & dead bodies in the DWP’s Attic !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 5, 2021 at 7:33 pm

      • Who’s DWP Is It Anyway !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 5, 2021 at 7:34 pm

  7. This report is about the role and effects of Conditionality and Sanctions on Universal Credit and the inherent flaws in the system (not a short read):

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-social-policy/article/inwork-universal-credit-claimant-experiences-of-conditionality-mismatches-and-counterproductive-benefit-sanctions/82C05CC442F9EBA049E99E0523A9C3F0

    trev

    May 4, 2021 at 5:50 pm

  8. trev

    May 4, 2021 at 5:55 pm

  9. trev

    May 4, 2021 at 5:58 pm

    • @trev

      The purpose of benefit sanctions is about saving money. In that respect they really are effective.

      jj joop

      May 4, 2021 at 7:03 pm

      • Not necessarily. If people are made homeless because of Sanctions the local Council has to re-home them often in temporary accommodation such as B&Bs etc. which is more expensive in the long run, as well as Sanctioned people using other local resources out of necessity and desperation such as Advice centres, foodbanks, soup kitchens, day centres, etc. or resorting to begging and/or shoplifting. Add to all that losses to the local economy if sufficient people have significantly less to spend. Saving a drop in the ocean on the overall Social Security budget at the expense of the wider costs to Society is typical Tory short-sightedness and narrow-minded thinking.

        trev

        May 4, 2021 at 7:17 pm

  10. @Andrew Coates

    Thanks for the link to A survival guide to benefit sanctions.

    jj joop

    May 4, 2021 at 7:01 pm

  11. this is 4 years worth of job applications need a bigger folder lol but ill take them all to the jcp and even let them copy them all if they want 😉

    https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/smallbusiness/article-9530175/Government-placed-16-500-young-people-jobs-Kickstart-Scheme.html

    not going to happen is it same as going on the restart programme doing the same thing just so they can get a pay check.

    but at least when i retire i wont have to buy any bog rolls 😉

    superted

    May 4, 2021 at 7:49 pm

  12. Government to import 50,000 farm workers despite millions of brits being unemployed.

    Cloverleaf

    May 5, 2021 at 12:21 pm

    • Priti Patel (c)rap.

      Tim

      May 5, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    • Cloverleaf, that video sounds like some Rightwing anti-immigrant bullshit. It is not practically possible for most unemployed Brits to do farm work because they live elsewhere in towns and cities nowhere near the agricultural jobs. You can’t just upsticks and go to the other end of the country to pick hops or strawberries etc. when you’ve got a rented flat/house that you’re paying rent and Council tax on, who is going to look after your gaff while you’re away? who’s going to feed your cat and pay your rent? Where are you going to live whilst doing the farm work? How are you going to get there with no transport and no money?

      trev

      May 5, 2021 at 10:02 pm

  13. Local elections, and the Labour Party is desperately in need of a complete rebrand. It’s just not going to work as things are.No wonder the Tories are so far ahead in the polls. Keir Starmer started off well, but now it’s all fizzled out again. Somehow Labour have got to start trying to appeal to the great mass of non-political voters in this country. And frankly, the millions of middle-class voters, who might otherwise vote LibDem or Green.

    Jeff Smith

    May 5, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    • @Jeff Smith : Sadly true Jeff, I wouldn’t bet on a Labour government any time soon.

      George M

      May 5, 2021 at 11:31 pm

  14. Coach has referred me onto JETS with Shaw Trust because I’m on UC, I was told I’ll be on it for 15 months,I was also told it’s not mandatory so won’t be signing their paperwork povos can go to hell.

    Cloverleaf

    May 5, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    • so the jcp staff are fine with dumping ppl down the local provider yet there going on strike because they don’t want ppl in the jcp for face to face appointments is a fkn joke.

      superted

      May 5, 2021 at 3:18 pm

    • JETS, from what I can make out, is supposed to be aimed at people who have become unemployed because of Covid. Sounds like much of the same old shit as every previous employment scheme. Those in Government and running the DWP have no imagination, they are clueless as to what is needed, what works and what doesn’t.

      trev

      May 5, 2021 at 3:18 pm

    • If it’s not mandatory why have you not politely declined their offer ?

      bob1234232

      May 5, 2021 at 3:55 pm

      • Because, my little Ayrian activist, they can then raise a sanction doubt on the grounds that “you failed to take advantage of an offer”, or “you failed to engage with the provider”.etc. They don’t give a shit if they are in the wrong. You then have the hassle and stress of appealing the sanction so you don’t lose your benefits. Of course, they could just lie so your appeal fails wagering that you won’t take it to a tribunal and in the meantime, you’re left in the crap. That’s why.

        bob

        May 5, 2021 at 4:20 pm

      • There’s no Iranian activity on this blog.

        bob1234232

        May 5, 2021 at 4:32 pm

      • the key to making this work is you need the provider not let you participate so dont go down there fin this and that just say you are willing to participate but buy law you wont be signing anything.

        if they ask you to leave ask for it in writing what the reason is why you can not participate and 9 times out of ten it will be on health and safety grounds insurance ect.

        if the provider is in a building that requires you to sign in the fire log book you must do this because another person tried what i did but refused to sign it and lost the tribunal because he could not participate if it was not signed thus his fault.

        if you are given a letter to attend a provider this is mandatory you attend on said date and time but anything else they cant force you to do or sign anything buy law.

        superted

        May 5, 2021 at 6:20 pm

  15. That’s what I thought trev, I’ve been unemployed for 4 years so I don’t know why I’ve been referred to JETS.The mind boggles.

    Cloverleaf

    May 5, 2021 at 3:33 pm

  16. As an WHP JETS Employment Advisor you will be providing advice and support to guide and encourage participants to overcome barriers to employment and achieve realistic job goals. This will be mainly delivered remotely via phone, video conference and other digital channels.

    https://jobs.shaw-trust.org.uk/VacancyInformation.aspx?VId=26417

    you better think long and hard b4 you sign these contracts it is not going to be like it was b4 and you will be expected to take part digitally or else!

    so if you sign there contract and then refuse to give them a email address or phone number they could raise a sanction doubt because you cant participate with out one and your fucked cos you signed there data waver/ contract.

    superted

    May 5, 2021 at 3:33 pm

    • “This will be mainly delivered remotely via phone, video conference and other digital channels.”Hahaha. Not on my computer they won’t.

      bob

      May 5, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    • @superted – I don’t like the sound of that ‘realistic job goals’. Typical provider talk for wearing down the claimant, from what they originally hoped to do, little by little. Until it comes down to whatever crap zero-hours job the advisor wants you to do. Or else…

      Jeff Smith

      May 5, 2021 at 11:38 pm

  17. Another £500 Million down the drain – Wipe out any debt with our special debt wiper. I Thought that was money laundering !!! Another Disability Unit another £100 Million down the drain.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 5, 2021 at 7:31 pm

  18. There are two Bobs posting on this site. The good Bob, @bob with sensible posts. And the evil Bob,
    @bob1234232, full of sarcasm and spite.

    George M

    May 5, 2021 at 11:50 pm

    • @ George

      The “evil bob” is the same old Rightwing extremist Troll who has been posting under various names for quite a long time; Billy Boyne (lifelong Rangers ponce), suebi, zamo, etc. are all the same twat. He also used to impersonate others on here inc. myself. He’s a self-confessed neo-Nazi/Fascist, a total nutjob with a screw loose. Best ignored.

      trev

      May 6, 2021 at 6:08 am

  19. People on benefits can now get high-speed fibre broadband for just £15 a month

    https://welfarejournal.com/people-on-benefits-can-now-get-high-speed-fibre-broadband-for-just-15-a-month/

    Report names 10 Wi-Fi router models that could leave you at the mercy of hackers

    An investigation has found devices provided by EE, Sky, TalkTalk, Virgin Media and Vodafone could be leaving customers at risk of cyber attacks because of security flaws

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/10-wi-fi-router-models-24049922

    xclausx

    May 6, 2021 at 10:03 am

  20. Surely WHP Jets must become mandatory if you sign the forms ? This has happened before with previous ‘voluntary’ schemes.

    Jeff Smith

    May 6, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    • once you sign there contracts it then becomes mandatory you attend and they can also sanction you.

      superted

      May 6, 2021 at 12:20 pm

  21. PCS members working in jobcentres have been telling us what they think about safety in their offices. Problems with social distancing, enough space for staff to take their breaks safely and ventilation were issues raised by many members.

    One member told us: “My office is a small office with an increased number of staff from the recruitment drive that took place during lockdown. I don’t see how the office can safely accommodate all staff as well as customers and still adhere to Covid regulations and social distancing.”

    Not safe

    Another member pointed out that today’s problems have been exacerbated by a lack of investment over a long period of time, saying that offices “haven’t been fit for purpose for a long time, still don’t feel safe and are actually not safe on grounds of ventilation, not enough toilets, not big enough staff kitchens for people to easily socially distance and the general substandard facilities of a rundown estate.”

    Anxiety

    Another member summed up the fear that many staff are feeling: “I have been told that I have to go into the office to conduct face to face appointments. We will have all age groups coming onto the floor including 18-24 who have not been vaccinated. My manager keeps telling me that the office is “safe”. I have not been in contact with anyone outside my immediate for over 13 months and I am getting extremely anxious.”
    – PCS Union Site

    Jeff Smith

    May 6, 2021 at 12:36 pm

  22. Universal Credit claimants still being hit by loophole that could cut payments to £0

    The issue is linked to how often people are paid – and means if you get paid twice in the same month due to a date change or bank holiday, your benefits in the following month could be reduced to nil

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/universal-credit-claimants-still-being-24052090

    xclausx

    May 6, 2021 at 1:08 pm

  23. The future of Social Security in the UK is being discussed (decided?) by a Commission consisting of Tory Think-tank Bright Blue:

    New Commission on Social Security

    https://policyinpractice.co.uk/new-commission-on-social-security-call-for-evidence/

    https://www.socialsecurity.brightblue.org.uk/

    Bright Blue

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Blue_(organisation)

    trev

    May 6, 2021 at 1:15 pm

  24. During my last telephone appointment my Work Coach was pushing video conferencing. She said that the Jobcentre was going to start making video calls to “customers” and whether I had unlimited broadband, or enough PAYG broadband, to take part in video calls with the Jobcentre on my PC and/or phone. As I don’t have a landline, only have limited PAYG broadband using a dongle, and haven’t got a smartphone the answer was no. She did seem very keen to get me to agree to communicate with the Jobcentre in that way, so much so in fact that I bean to wonder if she had an ulterior motive, e.g., get me to participate in some online course, training, mentoring or whatever using my own equipment. Her keenness seem too keen to be comfortable to be honest. On the bright side it didn’t seem as if the Jobcentre hereabouts looks likely to be opening any time soon or hopefully in the foreseeable future.

    Tim

    May 6, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    • I’ve never used video conferencing, or Skype, I don’t have Broadband and my smartphone is too old for anything like that. Why do they want to do that? What’s wrong with simply phoning people as they are doing now? In fact, why does the Jobcentre really need to have any regular contact with claimants? Why does the Jobcentre even exist?

      trev

      May 6, 2021 at 2:17 pm

      • Nor me. She was pushing it though as if “encouraged” by her managers to get people to do it. I’ve seen conference calls on TV using Zoom software, where multiple people communicated with each other, and wondered if they might hold “classes” online same as in the Jobcentre (or other premises) only virtually. This wouldn’t be possible for me since I haven’t got the bandwidth to manage it and wouldn’t want to do participate online with the Jobcentre more than I have to anyway. Maybe she was as bored as me and imagined speaking to “customers” in a different way might be more fun? Who knows? Not something that would appeal to me even if I had the tech and connectivity to be able to do it.

        Tim

        May 6, 2021 at 5:05 pm

  25. @trev- I suppose a video call is nearly as good from the Jobcentre point of view, as making people turn up to sign-on. They can get a look at the claimant, is he scruffy and unkempt ? Looks like he just fell out of bed, hair like Boris Johnson ? And then draw their own conclusions about the jobsearch.

    Jeff Smith

    May 6, 2021 at 2:38 pm

    • I can’t see that there is anything to be gained from viewing people, either virtually on screen or in person. As far as I’m concerned the Jobcentre is a white elephant. Automatic Benefit payments and annual signing online or by return of postal declaration is the way forward. No need for Jobcentres.

      trev

      May 6, 2021 at 2:46 pm

    • say that’s fine but im going to live stream the call on youtube 😉

      imo there trying to get ppl tuned in to doing it like this because all the providers are going digital and get round the gdpr via apps that you have to download and use to take part.

      well they can fuck right off they cant force anyone to do this so tell them to stick there video calls up there ass as you wont be downloading any app on to anything as you dont accept the terms and conditions of the apps use of personnel data and game over.

      superted

      May 6, 2021 at 2:48 pm

      • Just do the video conference stark naked.

        Reverend Green

        May 6, 2021 at 3:20 pm

      • @ Reverend Green

        Don’t give Trev ideas.

        bob1234232

        May 6, 2021 at 6:03 pm

  26. The employer has said that they believe this risk has been mitigated, as far as possible, by informing claimants that they are not allowed to record a video appointment without DWP consent and if a Work Coach suspects that a recording is being made, the appointment will be terminated immediately. Furthermore, any criminal behaviour will be reported.

    https://www.pcs.org.uk/department-for-work-and-pensions/news/universal-credit-video-calling-update

    if they dont want to be recorded then why the fuck use a video call in the first place pmsl.

    id bet there recording your ass tho! and pass it on to plod!

    superted

    May 6, 2021 at 2:56 pm

    • @superted; It’s like a form of indoor surveillance. Gives the Jobcentre a look round your place. What if they see something they shouldn’t while doing the video call ?

      George M

      May 6, 2021 at 3:19 pm

      • imo they will send plod round with a chain saw and cut your door in half to go get it.

        superted

        May 6, 2021 at 3:23 pm

    • If your computer is powerful enough to run video conferencing, it’s powerful enough to run capture software and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it.

      What are they afraid of? No longer able to raise a sancion based on a lie, coersion or bullying without a recording of it being made?

      It will interesting to see how they react when videos start apperaing on youtube of advisers behaving like total arses.

      Watch this space!

      bob

      May 6, 2021 at 10:02 pm

  27. Every thing is back to normal in my JC had an appointment not one person had a mask on.
    The appointment was for another appointment 🤮 it could have been done over the phone

    Big bird

    May 6, 2021 at 3:27 pm

  28. trev

    May 6, 2021 at 6:40 pm

  29. trev

    May 6, 2021 at 7:23 pm

    • bob1234232

      May 6, 2021 at 9:16 pm

      • This the same Dalai Lama who fled his homeland during the 1959 Tibetan uprising and now lives as a refugee in India? Maybe he should piss off back home before lecturing others on where they chose to live.

        bob

        May 6, 2021 at 10:31 pm

      • bob1234232

        May 6, 2021 at 11:28 pm

      • Point? Tibet is a seperate country from India. Bloody foreigner! He should “rebuild his own country”.

        Of course, his birthplace is in China, so he has travelled futher than many of the refugees he his complaining about.

        bob

        May 7, 2021 at 3:10 am

      • bob1234232

        May 7, 2021 at 3:37 am

      • Hahaha. Belligerent in defeat. The hallmark of every deluded fascist!

        bob

        May 7, 2021 at 3:47 am

      • These are dangerous waters for the socialist left. Nothing is more guaranteed to put off the average citizen and voter, than some tone-deaf piece of unpatriotic diatribe about how dreadful the British are. How they deserve whatever they get, and why can’t they be more like Iran or Russia etc,
        There are people on the left who seem to be actually proud of attacking their own country at every opportunity. And every time they shout ”Cruel Britannia”, the Conservatives are smiling.

        bob1234232

        May 7, 2021 at 5:06 am

      • Jesus Christ! Someone posting propaganda disseminated by the arch-fascistic Neo-Nazi Greek Popular Association aka The Golden Dawn? What the heck has this blog come to? Time for the moderators hereabouts to get busy doing some blocking and scrape the shit of the shoes of this website.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_%28Greece%29

        Tim

        May 7, 2021 at 4:52 pm

  30. Universal credit ‘basic fairness’ £20 uplift case given high court go-ahead

    By John Pring [DNS] on 6th May 2021

    The high court has given two disabled campaigners permission to challenge the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) over its failure to offer recipients of so-called legacy benefits the same £20-a-week increase given to those on universal credit.

    The court will now decide if DWP breached the European Convention on Human Rights by increasing the standard allowance of universal credit by £20-a-week at the start of the pandemic, but not increasing the rate for 1.9 million employment and support allowance (ESA) recipients by the same amount.

    Claimants of jobseeker’s allowance and income support have also been excluded from the uplift.

    The two ESA recipients who are challenging the decision believe DWP’s failure was discriminatory and unjustified.

    They have asked for their case to be heard within the next three months.

    One of them, Philip Wayland, from Essex, told Disability News Service (DNS) that the case was about “basic fairness”.

    He said: “The case is important to me because for far too long the sick and disabled community have been treated appallingly by many governments. This must change.

    “The case is about basic fairness in the welfare system, especially during the pandemic, although the amount people are expected to live on is woefully inadequate at the best of times.”

    He added: “Of course, the extra money would help me personally should the case succeed, but to be honest I have been motivated to bring this case because of seeing the many people who are in a much worse position than myself.”

    Ken Butler, welfare rights and policy adviser for Disability Rights UK, said: “By restricting the £20 per week increase only to universal credit the government has discriminated against the millions of disabled people on other benefits.

    “The judicial review action is great news and if successful will hopefully lead the way for the £20 uplift to be awarded and backdated to all legacy benefit claimants.”

    In March, as part of its #20More4All campaign, Disabled People Against Cuts delivered mail bags full of the testimonies of disabled people to DWP, the Treasury and 10 Downing Street, describing the financial struggles they had faced during the pandemic, and calling for the uplift to be extended to those on legacy benefits.

    Stephen Timms, the Labour chair of the Commons work and pensions committee, said: “We can see no reason why people should face hardship simply because – through no fault of their own – they happen to be receiving older benefits.

    “At a time when living costs, especially for disabled people and carers, have been higher than ever, the government’s approach has undoubtedly left many facing hardship.

    “We will await the outcome of this legal challenge with interest.

    “But it would be better if the government acted to increase legacy benefits now, without forcing claimants to go through a lengthy legal process.”

    William Ford, a solicitor with Osbornes Law, who is representing the two claimants, said: “This unfairness calls for a properly evidenced justification, particularly as almost two million disabled people are disproportionately affected by this decision and the pandemic generally.

    “Thus far the government has failed to provide any objectively verifiable reason for the difference in treatment of people in essentially identical circumstances.”

    A DWP spokesperson said in a statement: “It has always been the case that claimants on legacy benefits can make a claim for universal credit if they believe that they will be better off.”

    Meanwhile, ministers have refused again to publish analysis DWP carried out to show how many disabled people would benefit from the move to universal credit (UC).

    The request was made in a written parliamentary question by Labour MP Debbie Abrahams.

    Justin Tomlinson, the minister for disabled people, failed to provide the analysis, but he did suggest that new analysis “comparing the benefit entitlement of UC claimants and legacy claimants” would be published “in due course”.

    It is not clear if this will be the same analysis sought by Abrahams and if it will show how many disabled people will lose out in the move to UC, as well as the number who will gain.

    Ministers have repeatedly claimed that around one million disabled households will receive a higher entitlement under UC than they would have received under the previous “legacy” benefits system.

    But every time they repeat the figure, they fail to say how many disabled households are expected to receive a lower entitlement under UC.

    DWP has told the Office for Statistics Regulation that the figure of one million households came from “internal analysis carried out to look at the impacts of a proposed policy change”.

    DWP claims that this analysis “did not estimate how many people would lose out in the move to Universal Credit”, but only those who would gain.

    But despite DWP admitting the existence of this analysis, it has refused to release it.

    It even branded DNS “vexatious” for attempting to secure a copy of the analysis.

    The most recent DWP equality impact assessment, published nearly a decade ago, in November 2011, suggested that the number of disabled households gaining financially from universal credit would be at least matched by the number losing out (with about 800,000 households in each group), with disabled people who are out of work particularly likely to lose out.

    A DWP spokesperson said: “We do not have anything further to add to the response issued last week.”

    [Links Don’t work For Me]

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 6, 2021 at 8:05 pm

    • “””A DWP spokesperson said in a statement: “It has always been the case that claimants on legacy benefits can make a claim for universal credit if they believe that they will be better off.”””””

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      May 6, 2021 at 8:07 pm

    • It is absolutely blatantly unfair and I cannot see how any Judge can possibly rule otherwise. Funny how they’re still calling it a “uplift” though, they daren’t call it an increase because that would be difficult to argue against its permanence, whereas an “uplift” (made up word) can be interpreted however they like, i.e. “Oh it was only temporary, never intended to be permanent” etc.

      trev

      May 6, 2021 at 8:16 pm

      • problem is all the courts are interested in is the law so the government are going to have to prove the extra 20 quid a week for uc claimants was lawfully done and they cant because it made a 2 tier benefits system.

        there is no lawful reason why legacy claimants was not included in the uplift as it was the same rate as jsa and new style jsa that ppl can claim with savings for 6 months that sprang back in to life.

        it was done to force as many ppl as possible on uc with a digital account because that’s there plan in the long run and i bet you all can see that now and be stitched up like a kipper.

        superted

        May 6, 2021 at 8:52 pm

      • bob1234232

        May 7, 2021 at 3:38 am

    • ”A DWP spokesperson said in a statement: “It has always been the case that claimants on legacy benefits can make a claim for universal credit if they believe that they will be better off.”

      That’s bollocks because it would require people already on or below the breadline to have to undergo the FIVE WEEK hiatus, during which they would either have no income at all, or have to go into debt by way of a DWP loan which would reduce their Universal Credit entitlements significantly when the DWP clawed back the loan received by means of deductions from received benefits. In other words people moving from legacy benefits to Universal Credit would get the £20.00 p.w., uplift they wouldn’t be better off because the DWP would snatch it back to pay back the “advance” loan they had to take out to manage during the FIVE WEEK “assessment” period. And from then on, afterwards, the “migrated” would have to live with the much harsher and more stringent Universal Credit invigilation from that point on, because, in the words of that meddlesome incompetent David Freud, Universal Credit is a “lobster pot” and once you are in it you can’t get out again.

      There is no real choice for legacy claimants but to stay on legacy benefits.

      The DWP are talking bullshit as usual.

      Tim

      May 7, 2021 at 9:05 am

  31. Someone should start a petition to get the JSA legacy claimants migrated over to UC as soon as possible. Starting with the Yorkshire area first.

    bob1234232

    May 6, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    • they can migrate me over when they like i wont be using a digital uc account or journal as non digital claims can be made.

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/non_digital_uc_claim

      phone numbers and email address are personnel data and they need you permission to use them or even keep them on there system.

      generate a ‘Change from phone claim to online’ to-do. This is only available to cases flagged as phone claims and only when the claimant’s identity
      has been verified
       this sends a link to the claimant’s email address for them to set a password. The service sets a user name
      The claimant will then be able to manage their claim online, and see any journal entries previously made.
      This process should be completed face to face and only exceptionally over the phone.

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/non_digital_uc_claim

      DSC_0004

      they can fuck right off it is not going to happen seen this bs coming ten years ago 😉

      superted

      May 6, 2021 at 9:32 pm

      • @superted

        I thought the DWP were going to give legacy JSA claimants a letter telling them they had to make a claim online themselves. Looking at Fred Jordan’s FoI, it looks like the Jobcentre will be doing the changeover for you if they have your email address.

        jj joop

        May 7, 2021 at 11:16 am

      • jj joop

        May 7, 2021 at 11:30 am

      • so dont give them a email address 😉

        superted

        May 7, 2021 at 11:47 am

  32. pmsl 😉

    superted

    May 6, 2021 at 10:17 pm

  33. So the people of Hartlepool (or at least some of them) have voted for “investment and jobs”, wait until they see what sort of jobs they get and how far away from Hartlepool they actually are, and how much they pay, and how fast they are expected to work over how many hours/days. There won’t be any good quality jobs, no equitable and meaningful labour, just exploitative agency shite in sweatshops.

    trev

    May 7, 2021 at 6:19 am

    • bob1234232

      May 7, 2021 at 6:48 am

    • These are dangerous waters for the socialist left. Nothing is more guaranteed to put off the average citizen and voter, than some tone-deaf piece of unpatriotic diatribe about how dreadful the British are. How they deserve whatever they get, and why can’t they be more like Iran or Russia etc,
      There are people on the left who seem to be actually proud of attacking their own country at every opportunity. And every time they shout ”Cruel Britannia”, the Conservatives are smiling.

      bob1234232

      May 7, 2021 at 6:50 am

      • If you’re going to copy what other people have said you could at least put it in speech marks.

        Labour lost because they were too Centrist and not near enough to the very popular great leftwing policies of Corbyn and McDonnell; Nationalization, free Broadband and Basic Income. Besides the Leftwing vote being split.

        trev

        May 7, 2021 at 7:11 am

      • I’m not sure about that one, trev. After all Peter Mandelson, New Labour personified, was MP for Hartlepool from 9 April 1992 to 8 September 2004, some twelve and a half years, which indicates to me that the Hartlepool constituency couldn’t really have been that averse to the New Labour project or its leaders and architects.

        Aleister

        May 7, 2021 at 12:31 pm

  34. Hartlepool
    Party Candidate Votes %
    Con Jill Mortimer 15,529 51.9
    Lab Paul Williams 8,589 28.7
    Ind Sam Lee 2,904 9.7
    Heritage Claire Martin 468 1.6
    Reform John Prescott 368 1.2
    Green Rachel Featherstone 358 1.2
    Lib Dem Andrew Hagon 349 1.2

    The Leftwing vote being split ? All the other parties ( left,centre and right) votes don’t add up to the Tory vote.

    bob1234232

    May 7, 2021 at 7:24 am

    • There is an effect here which could change the Conservative party out of all recognition, i.e., if the Tories want to retain the seats won in the north they will be forced to become more sympathetic and responsive to the needs of the population of the North. This would certainly mean a shift leftward by the Conservatives towards the centre ground of politics with more attention being given to social house building, infrastructure, education, homelessness, poverty and similar social neglect and concern in northern constituencies and as a result nationally which might be a good thing because Labour seems unlikely to gain power anytime soon, certainly not after the next or even subsequent general election.

      I’m not surprised at all that Hartlepool fell to the Conservatives because that constituency was very pro-Brexit with a majority of voters belonging to the Conservative and UKIP/Brexit party camps. What happened yesterday was a transfer of votes originally captured by UKIP/Brexit during the Brexit farrago straight over to the Tories, which could change overnight if the Conservatives fail to live up to the expectations of local voters and Brexit turns out not quite to be the liberation, success and “sunny uplands” Boris Johnson promised which looks very likely as far as I can see.

      We live in interesting times as the Chinese are wont to say.

      Aleister

      May 7, 2021 at 9:52 am

      • @Aleister – That’s an interesting point, perhaps the Conservatives will soften some of their attitudes as they absorb more Labour voters ? It would certainly be in their interests to do so. But desperately bad news for Labour if there were to be a resurgence of ‘One Nation’ conservatism.

        Jeff Smith

        May 7, 2021 at 1:59 pm

  35. 😀 “Labour lost because they were too Centrist and not near enough to the very popular great leftwing policies of Corbyn and McDonnell” Those very same “very popular great leftwing policies of Corbyn and McDonnell” that lost the last GE.😂

    bob1234232

    May 7, 2021 at 7:28 am

    • “Those very same “very popular great leftwing policies of Corbyn and McDonnell” that lost the last GE”

      No, they didn’t. The policies were very popular. The election was lost because of two things; A. The effective demonization of Jeremy Corbyn by the Rightwing, the British Establishment and most of the mainstream media, and B. Brexit.

      trev

      May 7, 2021 at 1:48 pm

      • @trev – Jeremy Corbyn certainly didn’t appear to the electorate as a centrist. But as a determined member
        of the hard-left of the Labour Party, along with his associates in Momentum. Not forgetting some of the
        more prominent union leaders, of a similar persuasion.
        And this is what proved so fatal at the last election.

        Jeff Smith

        May 7, 2021 at 2:38 pm

      • Well, whatever your point of view Corbyn and McDonnell and their policies were what I personally look for and want from the Labour party, that is what gets my vote, not Blue Labour or Tory Lite, not Rachel Reeves vowing to be “tougher than the Tories on Welfare” and not a Labour party that supports the use of Benefit Sanctions. I’m quite prepared to give Starmer a chance, I said that from the beginning, but so far he hasn’t set the world on fire, I’m not sure what he stands for.

        trev

        May 7, 2021 at 2:52 pm

      • @ trev

        What you say doesn’t make a halfpennyworth of sense, mate. The Labour party even now is more left-wing than the Tories. Why then if voters are looking for a party to vote for which offering Corbynite policies have they abandoned Labour in droves to vote for in local elections for the Conservatives, who are completely and utterly non-Corbynite, have always been and always will be? And if Corbyn’s policies were popular why did the Labour party under his leadership in 2019 suffer it’s second biggest defeat in its history? What the heck are you talking about, pal?

        Steve

        May 7, 2021 at 3:22 pm

      • @ Steve

        The defeat in 2019 was due to two things; A. The effective and very successful coordinated demonization of Jeremy Corbyn by the Rightwing, the majority of the mainstream media and the British Establishment, and B. Brexit.

        Labour’s policies were actually very popular, particularly Re-Nationalization of public transport, the provision of free broadband, the scrapping of Universal Credit and the introduction of Basic Income.

        Unfortunately there is a large percentage of the electorate who are stupid, uneducated, racist, xenophobic, and gullible. Labour needs to work harder to educate the public and create a Politicized Proletariat.

        trev

        May 7, 2021 at 7:22 pm

      • @trev- But Trev we’ve just seen the writing on the wall in Hartlepool. Another disaster for Labour, and it would be just the same now, if they called a snap election. Labour have got a straight choice, and Keir Starmer knows this. Reach out to the working-class Tory vote, the liberal middle-class, and the undecided floating voters. Take the middle ground. Or else rot in opposition for years to come.

        Jeff Smith

        May 7, 2021 at 3:37 pm

      • @ Jeff

        Starmer hasn’t reached out to anyone judging by this election result – a phenomenal loss. And I certainly won’t vote for a Labour party that imitates the Tories.

        trev

        May 7, 2021 at 5:08 pm

  36. Labour MP makes ‘racist’ remarks:

    Shadow cabinet minister says Labour must ‘speed up movement back towards British people’

    Robinson finally asked Reed to clarify that, in Starmer’s mind, ‘change’ did not mean moving back to the left. Reed said:

    Keir believes that we need to change direction and speed up our movement back towards the British people. That will certainly not mean going back to what took us to our historic 85-year defeat in December of 2019. We must become the party of aspiration again, or we will not deserve to win a future election.

    bob1234232

    May 7, 2021 at 7:35 am

  37. bob1234232

    May 7, 2021 at 7:41 am

  38. Video Calling – Concerns over safety of members
    07 May 2021

    Risk of being photographed or filmed cannot be eliminated by DWP
    DWP has admitted that they cannot eliminate the risk of our members being photographed or filmed whilst doing the interviews and that this can easily be done without our member’s knowledge. Whilst they have agreed to acknowledge this risk in the risk assessment they have refused to include the key control measure that is necessary for our members to avoid this risk. As the DWP cannot eliminate the risk then they need to ensure that staff can avoid the risk by making sure that everyone is fully aware of the risks and have the right to not expose themselves to this risk. Management have made great play of the fact by confirming with PCS that using video calling is voluntary. But they have refused to include this in the risk assessment or the guidance to make it crystal clear that our members who have genuine fears about their safety can make it clear that they do not want to use this channel. Management are dismissive of the risks and fail to acknowledge how this channel can make it far easier for many images of our members to be easily placed on social media with derogatory comments.

    https://www.pcs.org.uk/department-for-work-and-pensions/news/video-calling-%E2%80%93-concerns-over-safety-of-members

    superted

    May 7, 2021 at 12:14 pm

    • @superted: I don’t see how the DWP can tell they are being recorded. There must be some mileage here for comedy recordings of advisers. And the usual cut and splice, which puts them in Nazi uniforms, or just the head spliced onto a different body, in a gay sex video.

      George M

      May 7, 2021 at 2:04 pm

      • @George M

        I imagine that’s why the PCS is advising their members not to engage with claimants via a video link. It will leave them wide open to ridicule and abuse. Imagine watching one of those videos on YouTube and then seeing a particular DWP employee in the street. Some people would almost certainly shout abuse at them!

        jj joop

        May 7, 2021 at 2:57 pm

  39. How to record video meetings on Zoom, Google Meet, and Skype

    https://www.theverge.com/21243516/video-call-record-how-to-meeting-conference-zoom-google-skype

    if you want to live stream you will need one of these.

    superted

    May 7, 2021 at 2:19 pm

    • @superted: That is very naughty of you Superted. One might almost think you were encouraging people to make these recordings.

      Reverend Green

      May 7, 2021 at 7:08 pm

  40. Well, if Labour had a mountain to climb before, now it will have to be Mount Everest…. without oxygen.

    Jeff Smith

    May 7, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    • @Jeff Smith: Starmer will be lucky to make it to Base Camp, even with a couple of sherpas.

      George M

      May 7, 2021 at 3:41 pm

      • @George M – And now he’ll have to watch out for the Abominable Snowman as well.

        Jeff Smith

        May 7, 2021 at 7:10 pm

  41. jj joop

    May 7, 2021 at 2:59 pm

  42. I think labour lost the general election because of people like Starmer refusing to accept the referendum result. Corbyn in 2017 promised to honour the result of the referendum and won seats. Labour were celebrating but the next two years MPs threatened to leave the labour party unless they offered a second referendum. That left Corbyn having to stay neutral while his brexit secretary Starmer said he would get a deal and actively campaign to remain in the EU. He stabbed Corbyn in the back and throughout the pandemic Starmer has not asked a single question in support of people on legacy benefits. Labour under Starmer want the middle class vote and will not be standing up for the vulnerable in the near future.

    Rob

    May 7, 2021 at 3:49 pm

  43. Labour don’t be so Red,
    If you do, you’re electorally dead,
    Take a hint from Tony Blair,
    His policies, not his hair.

    Stick to the centre ground,
    Take a middle line.
    Lots of voters will agree with you,
    And everything will be fine.

    Leave out the suffering socialist,
    Always looking up above,
    And try for something positive,
    Like universal love.

    Random Poet

    May 7, 2021 at 4:13 pm

    • @ Random Poet

      Are you suggesting that Labour just lost this election because Starmer is “too Red” ?

      trev

      May 7, 2021 at 5:12 pm

  44. Perhaps there’s some truth in this?

    16:54

    ‘The pandemic was in people’s minds when they voted’

    Paul Barltrop

    Political Editor, West of England

    “Going to the polls during a pandemic was always going to be a challenge.

    But it may be what this election did to local democracy rather than to the nation’s health that it is remembered for.

    In three decades of covering elections, I have never seen it so subdued. Uncertainty over whether they would happen did not help.

    Then there was an initial bar on parties going leafleting, which sparked complaints, including from Lib Dems in Gloucestershire and Greens in Bristol.

    But, the biggest problem was generating interest in local issues.

    Normal political point-scoring just did not seem right in the midst of the Covid crisis. And without face-to-face hustings, much of the heat went out of the election.

    Instead, it is the global health pandemic, and the success of the national vaccine programme, that was dominant in the news, and in people’s minds, as they voted in these local elections.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england

    trev

    May 7, 2021 at 5:26 pm

  45. trev

    May 7, 2021 at 5:30 pm

  46. Starmer was blue with a bit of yellow. No sign of any red. Maybe if he had shown a bit of red (standing up for labour principles) he would have done much better.

    Rob

    May 8, 2021 at 10:37 am

    • The real question that puzzles me is why so many people who formerly voted Labour switched to the Tories. I can understand former Labour voters not liking Starmer’s style and not voting at all but can’t fathom why so many Labour voters didn’t just abstain but actively supported Conservative candidates if left of centre policies are really what they wanted. I really don’t understand that and find it weird in the extreme, reminiscent of black slaves cheering on Confederate troops during the civil war in America when it was Union troops battling to emancipate them. Boris Johnson seems to be Teflon coated: no matter how much he screws up, no matter how many rules he breaks, no matter how many fiddles he participates in, no matter how many scandals he is embroiled in nobody seems to care, he gets away with everything, retains his popularity and never pays the piper for his catalogue of errors, poor judgement and misdeeds.

      Aleister

      May 8, 2021 at 12:16 pm

      • @Aleister – Jeremy Corbyn & Co. did so much damage to the Labour brand, that people just lost faith in it.
        He wasn’t really up to the job, was fairly poor in Parliament, an easy target for more articulate speakers.
        Corbyn kept putting his foot in it, the anti-semitism scandal etc. And unlike Johnson, wasn’t agile enough to get himself out of trouble. By the time of the last general election, Labour were just a zombie party. Going through the motions in the House of Commons, but with no real chance of success.

        Jeff Smith

        May 8, 2021 at 1:06 pm

      • @ Jeff

        Corbyn is long gone and so are his supporters thanks to Starmer’s purge. You can’t blame this election disaster on Jeremy Corbyn! Starner has been leader for long enough but has come up with nothing new to offer.

        trev

        May 8, 2021 at 1:20 pm

      • @trev- Yes, but the party is still suffering from Long Corbyn. He wrecked the building, and Starmer took over the ruins.

        Jeff Smith

        May 8, 2021 at 2:28 pm

      • “long Corbyn” lol very droll.

        Starmer has said and done bugger all over the last year or more to attract voters, apart from grovelling to the Rightwing anti-Semitism accusers and banishing Corbyn. Many people in Hartlepool didn’t even know who Starmer is!

        trev

        May 8, 2021 at 2:55 pm

  47. I just received a email job alert from one of the local agencies for a Production Operative and it says, “*You must drive or live local due to the remote location not being accessible via public transport*”. That’s the trouble, you need transport to get to these out of way places where for some strange reason most of the jobs are. You’d still be screwed in winter though. It also says “involves heavy lifting”, what happened to safe manual handling procedures and correct lifting equipment being provided?

    trev

    May 8, 2021 at 11:14 am

  48. Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    • That’s got to be some of the most paranoid and deluded nonsense I’ve ever read. David Icke couldn’t do better than that! The lockdowns were to limit the spread of infection during a viral pandemic, simple as that.

      trev

      May 9, 2021 at 12:13 pm

  49. Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 12:31 pm

  50. I remember the time sheets when I was on New Deal (having to write down every minute) the placement Action 4 employment sent me to, he did his best to find us something to do to meet our needs, disabilities, mental health etc.

    He could not handle the numbers as he was jugging with people who were sent by two different providers, those who wanted to do some voluntary work not on a scheme, and two people on pay roll.

    He said just fill out the time sheet properly, if you late don’t worry about it, most of the time he sent people home after 30 minutes if we were on placement.

    Have as long as you want for break, lunch, if others were outside smoking, I could I have a break. If all the tasks were done for the charity for the day that was fine. there were no hurry for anything.

    one_more_name

    May 9, 2021 at 1:16 pm

    • I also remember one person got dismiss from the new deal programme at action 4 employment, as he told the tutor to go away (but using bad language) it was only over a cv/cover letter. he was getting very close to retirement age anyway

      Since most of us were from the same provider, we ask which tutor it was, and we said not surprise I had run in with her before, as she tried flirting with me and wanted me to vote on her team, I said I will call it right down the middle

      my_final_username

      May 9, 2021 at 5:41 pm

      • A4e = Arses for elbows. I seem to recall that David Blunkett was on the board of directors of A4e whilst they were being awarded government contracts. The woman who started the company, Emma someone? (was it Harris or Harrison?) became very rich out of it all and bought a huge castle-like mansion. Ah, the good old days of New Labour.

        trev

        May 9, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      • Thornbridge Hall, home of Emma Harrison, boss of A4e, paid for by the British Taxpayers in government contracts for A4e. Benefit scroungers?

        trev

        May 9, 2021 at 6:24 pm

  51. I’ve got my first interview with JETS tomorrow morning and it’s with Reed in Partnership with the devil not Shaw Trust, roach got it wrong, the interview will be over the phone it will last an hour, I’m not looking forward to being interrogated over the phone by a pimp, absolutely dreading it.

    Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 1:25 pm

    • how did the provider get your phone number?

      superted

      May 9, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    • You have my deepest sympathy Cloverleaf. It might help to have a printed copy of your CV to hand if possible in case they ask for details of your previous experience /employment or your qualifications and dates. Best of luck.

      trev

      May 9, 2021 at 1:32 pm

      • dont learn much do you trev you dont have to tell the provider anything as there your personnel details this is why they need your sig on there contracts to get round the gdpr.

        i bet the first thing they will go for is a email address and use that as joinder the action of bringing parties together; union.
        “the joinder of parties”

        it is like if you dont pay the tv licence and get a letter through the door to the legal occupier you ring the number on the letter and all they will ask you is can you confirm you name and address and as soon as you do that they class that as joinder and now have a name to that address and a contract is formed.

        superted

        May 9, 2021 at 9:19 pm

    • Good luck with Reed in partnership I had them when I was on the work and health programme, 5 advisors who did not have a clue what my disability was, I went on a few courses, and got asked by the trainer how can we improve your time and experience

      Mine was sent me back to job centre as my advisor at the job centre wanted me to do something else.

      At the other place I met a ex worker who use to work for at reed in partnership, as she knew my feelings about reed, I also met someone who I had from another provider, who was going to work for reed, I should have told her you wasting your time here love, but my reed in partnership advisor was with me.

      one_more_name

      May 9, 2021 at 2:41 pm

      • Thanks.

        Cloverleaf

        May 9, 2021 at 2:55 pm

  52. Lawyers and medical experts start legal proceedings against WHO and world leaders for crimes against humanity.

    http://stateofthenation.co/?p=64337

    Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 1:33 pm

  53. Roach must have given it to them, the twit didn’t even ask my permission he had no bloody right.

    Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 1:36 pm

  54. Typo – twat.

    Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 1:38 pm

    • and now you can see why i dont give them a phone number but do not give them a email address and state buy law you will not be signing anything but are willing to participate.

      superted

      May 9, 2021 at 1:45 pm

  55. https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/2020/11/04/mandatoryvolunteers/

    Loking at the DWP Job Entry: Targeted Support (JETS) contract specification it highlights the twisted logic the DWP uses when it refers to ‘voluntary’ employment support.

    In the Spec it says JETS is “primarily voluntary”, but then says “DWP Work Coaches may mandate some claimants to attend and participate in the initial appointment” and then for a JETS ‘volunteer’ it says “Work Coaches may set mandatory Work Focussed Interviews (WFIs) to discuss measures which potential voluntary Participants could take to enhance their employment prospects” and goes onto to state mandatory “WFIs may also be conducted with voluntary Participants if they cease to engage with JETS”

    JETS ‘volunteers’ who fail to undertage Work ‘Coach’ mandated appointments or Work Focussed Interviews will be referred “to the DWP Labour Market and Decision Making Team, who will decide if a benefit sanction is appropriate”

    superted

    May 9, 2021 at 2:14 pm

    • so like i have been saying for years they can mandate that you show up for the first induction, meeting, phone call but that’s it.

      they can not mandate you to attend every appointment at the provider thats why they need your sig 1 to get paid and 2 to process your personnel data and also raise sanction doubts and dump you on work fair placements.

      superted

      May 9, 2021 at 2:19 pm

  56. I’ll speak to pimps tomorrow but that’s as far as it goes, I have no intention of doing their pointless dole course.

    Cloverleaf

    May 9, 2021 at 2:53 pm

  57. I’m not surprised Labour did badly in the local elections considering Brexit and the Covid-19 pandemic. As I see it Brexit split the electorate pretty much in half and those two camps remain separate, even though Brexit has happened, and still peculiarly loyal to the political parties who promoted it and those who didn’t. So tribal Tories, Brexiteer Tories and Labour voters, UKIP/Brexit Party aficionados et al vote Conservative as the most serious pro-Brexit available. Also, although Boris Johnson and the Conservatives mismanaged the pandemic leading to many more deaths than might have been the case the vaccine roll out has been incredibly speedy and successful and, acting out of character, the Conservatives have spent lavishly supporting businesses and individuals in a way not seen from them before beating the Labour party to the punch as it were with Labour only really being able to support and/or criticise fairly mildly the agenda the Conservatives were offering.

    Basically the Tories have failed to act badly enough to woo people back to Labour and Labour have failed to put forward a better offer to the British people plausible and believable enough for them to get behind, nor too extravagant and radical for them to reject as too fantastical ever to be possible. Starmer has only been leader of the Labour party for about a year and much of that was lost away dealing with Brexit, Covid and sundry associated issues. It’s probably a big mistake to make too many historic comparisons during such extraordinary times when we are only just recovering from a national Coronavirus contagion, during which everybody’s head was spinning, which killed many and ground the country to a halt for twelve possibly as much as eighteen months to two years before life look likely to look something approaching normality.

    The Conservatives are definitely on a roll currently, with Boris Johnson still mysteriously liked and popular, but if Brexit goes badly, Tory housing and infrastructure projects don’t get going, and/or we return to the unhappy days of austerity and misery we were forced to live through under Cameron and Osborne that roll could be reversed very quickly indeed.

    Johnson is a man of low character who, like that other mega-liar Trump, is doomed to screw up fatally eventually. It’s more a matter of “when” rather than “if” considering how incompetent and dishonest the man is in my honest opinion.

    Tim

    May 9, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    • That’s probably a fair assessment Tim.

      trev

      May 9, 2021 at 3:46 pm

  58. Why are 13,500 new DWP Work ‘Coaches’ never informed of the central role they have forcing people they ‘coach’ to survive below an existential minimum in accordance with human dignity, with 100% Benefit Sanctions, until they start working at a Jobcentre?

    https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/2020/11/02/dwp-work-coaches-and-human-dignity/

    Work Coach training materials for 13500 new staff as Covid response.

    DWP Response
    I can confirm that we hold the information requested.
    As per your request, please find attached list of DWP products which are delivered to work
    coaches through the 32 day learning. The list provides topic number, subject matter heading
    and the order of delivery.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/work_coach_training_materials_fo

    superted

    May 9, 2021 at 9:01 pm


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