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Calls for new Beveridge Report: building a decent welfare system

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This was on Channel Four last night:

These serious calls have been made in the last few days.

What British politicians won’t admit – we need to transform the welfare state

A conversation about a fundamentally different welfare state ought to fall two ways: between immediate answers to the cruelties of our current systems, and longer-term ideas about how to completely reinvent it. The former might include an end to universal credit’s built-in five-week wait, the abolition of the cruel and arbitrary benefit cap, and no more sanctioning. It should extend to a recalibration of housing benefit so that people – including key workers – can afford to live in even high-cost areas, a watershed rise in our miserable rates of statutory sick pay, and the upgrading of the minimum wage and national living wage to the so-called real living wage (£9.50 across the UK and £10.85 in London), with an ongoing link to inflation.


Louise Casey: ‘Are we ever going to create a Britain for everyone?’


The former homelessness tsar thinks we need big, radical reform to tackle hunger, rough sleeping and poverty. And she has a plan

“We need to move into Royal Commission territory,” she says. “A new Beveridge Report [drafted by the economist William Beveridge in 1942, this was the document that led to the founding of the welfare state]. That’s the kind of thing I’m talking about.” Crikey. Is this a job she would like to take on herself? I look at her steadily, wondering if she’s going to indulge in a bout of it’s-not-for-me-to-say. But, no. She doesn’t much go in for let’s pretend. “Yes, I’d love to be part of that,” she says. “Government can, if it wants to, do something on a different scale now. The nation has been torn apart, and there’s no point being defensive about that. We’ve got to gift each other some proper space to think. We’ve got to work out how not to leave the badly wounded behind.”


We can get there quite quickly,” she says. “By March, there will be 6 million people on universal credit [in October, there were 5.7m]. Almost 4 million people are furloughed, and those still working are on less income [in a survey by the Resolution Foundation, 26% of adults reported suppressed wages during the first lockdown]. Unemployment has doubled [it stood at 1.72 million in November 2020], and will keep rising. Two million people are still on legacy benefits – which means they didn’t get the £20 uplift that came with universal credit. Then you add in the 5 million people who are in debt [42% of adults report using at least one form of borrowing to cover everyday living costs].


Pre-pandemic, there were 280,000 homeless in England and Wales. Earlier this month, the government announced that the ban on bailiff-enforced evictions, which protects private renters, would be extended to the end of March. But it will end eventually. “At which point, family homelessness will rise,” says Casey. “If 25% of your population is affected, then you can’t just tweak old policies, working out the least expensive, least challenging thing that can be done. You need big new policies.”

Most of us will have views on this!

Written by Andrew Coates

February 23, 2021 at 10:03 am

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  1. Universal Credit was a “big new policy”, one which has greatly exacerbated poverty. How much is a new ‘Beveridge Report’ going to cost, who is going to conduct it, and what will it conclude, that we live in a Society where the distribution of wealth is unequal and poor people need more money? Then what? Unconditional Basic Income perhaps? And end to Benefit Sanctions? Re-Nationalization of Utilities, Transport and Communications? Rent caps? An admission that Corbyn was right?


    February 23, 2021 at 10:41 am

  2. “The five giants on the road to reconstruction were Want, Disease, Ignorance, Squalor and Idleness.”

    With the exception of squalor don’t the other things apply equally to the rich as to the poor? Everyone apart from the most enlightened Buddhist monk wants things, anyone can be susceptible to disease (as we have recently seen), and as for ignorance and idleness they can surely potentially apply to anyone.


    February 23, 2021 at 10:58 am

    • Andrew Coates

      February 23, 2021 at 11:21 am

      • They are still saying the same thing regarding the homelees, I’m sick of the nonsense.


        February 23, 2021 at 1:44 pm

      • The “five giants” are expanded upon here, which makes more sense, though it is still possible to be both rich and idle…

        Disease (caused by inadequate health care provision)

        Want (caused by poverty)

        Squalor (caused by poor housing)

        Ignorance (caused by a lack of education)

        Idleness (caused by a lack of jobs, or the ability to gain employment)



        February 23, 2021 at 3:03 pm

  3. Under-25s hit worst as unemployment rises again



    February 23, 2021 at 12:40 pm

  4. Beveridge Report: How has the UK changed in the past 75 years?

    By Michael Buchanan
    BBC News


    2 December 2017



    February 23, 2021 at 12:42 pm

  5. Do not assume we’re all the same. everyone are still different, this will always be the case.

    I’ll keep working for my wage.


    February 23, 2021 at 1:41 pm

  6. I think its unlikely the Tories will want to build a new welfare system. They made every effort to construct the one we have now, with their flagship Universal Credit. This is very much how they see welfare. Not some Beveridge-style social security, but a minimal welfare system. With the emphasis on limited payments, and pushing people off into work wherever possible. They have even changed the language we use to describe social security, now the American term ‘welfare’ is almost always used. And what we need most of all, is to abandon this begrudging concept of welfare, and return to the use of ‘social security’, and the beliefs that go along with this. That the state should provide a decent basic income for everyone in need. The money has always been there, don’t kid yourself otherwise. It’s just having the decency and the humanity to take action. Starting with Universal Basic Income, set at a realistic level.

    Jeff Smith

    February 23, 2021 at 1:58 pm

    • Yes UC will stay in place.

      I will not get into debt when I know I can’t afford it, if only this was the case for everyone.


      February 23, 2021 at 2:03 pm

      • Universal Credit forces people into debt from the beginning of the claim. Debt is part & parcel of Universal Credit as a precondition. People aren’t only getting into debt due to living beyond their means, but to pay the rent and bills.


        February 23, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    • That’s right. The Conservatives want a “transactional” welfare system in which claimants could be, what Iain Duncan Smith referred to as “redeemed”, i.e., manipulated and disciplined to act in approved ways that the Tories thought were “responsible” as well as sanctioned and penalised if they failed to toe the line and comply with instructions sufficiently. In fact so did New Labour under Blair, Brown and even Ed Miliband who referred to social security as the “active welfare state” and was toying with all sorts of daft ideas about basing benefits not on need but the amount of an individual’s tax and NI contributions and awarding council house tenancies first to the employed and those proven to be “actively” doing something “worthwhile” like certain kinds of unpaid voluntary work considered beneficial to their local community etc.

      (In fact Beveridge actually wanted a contributions based welfare system originally which turned out to be impossible in practice because the people needing it most were the very ones least able to pay into the system in the first place.)

      I have no idea what the Labour party under Starmer are planning, if anything, when it comes to social security but will be interested to find out. Sadly, hearing him talking about patriotism and the flag etc., reminds me of the socially conservative Blue Labour flavour that has its fifteen minutes of fame pre-Corbyn.

      I think only the Green Party is contemplating doing what needs to be done and they can’t get into power.


      February 23, 2021 at 4:27 pm

  7. When do job centres reopen?

    Job centres will be reopening from July, it has been announced.

    Work and Pension Secretary Therese Coffey said in the House of Commons it is “essential” claimants can return to job centres and try to find work now.

    Ms Coffey said: “It is important that as the job centres fully reopen this week that we do reinstate the need for having the claimant commitment and it is an essential part of the contract to help people start to reconsider what vacancies there may be.

    “But I know that I can trust the work coaches, my job centre managers who are empowered to act proactively with people.”


    February 23, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    • @xclausx

      That’s last years news; not this years. That announcement was made in relation to the first lock-down ending in July 2020.

      Are you posting fake news or what?

      jj joop

      February 23, 2021 at 4:48 pm

    • Jobcentres are already open and Work Coaches can summon claimants to them as they see fit. At least that’s what it looks like according to a recent press release from the DWP called “Jobcentre guidance on new national COVID restrictions”.

      “… from 5 January 2021 until further notice, the following updated jobcentre guidance will apply to customers in England, and will ensure essential support is provided whilst keeping colleagues and customers safe.

      Jobcentres will remain open, as they have throughout this pandemic, to provide essential services and support to those who we cannot help in any other way.

      We will ensure that this support continues to be delivered in line with the latest government and PHE guidance – such as maintaining social distancing and rigorous cleaning regimes – keeping our colleagues and customers safe.

      Work Coaches will be empowered to support customers through the best and most appropriate channels – whether online, by phone, or in person – with jobcentres remaining open to help those who need extra support and are unable to interact with us on the phone or digitally.

      Our Work Coaches will continue to deliver employment support programmes such as the Job Entry Targeted Support (JETs) scheme, by phone or through online channels.

      Face-to-face assessments for disability benefits remain suspended.

      If you think you might be entitled to a health and disability benefit, you should contact us as soon as possible to make a claim in the usual way.

      For existing customers, payments will continue as normal. Anyone who has a change in their needs should contact us immediately so we can ensure they are receiving the correct level of support.

      From 18 January: Jobcentres will be open from 10am to 2pm to help keep our colleagues and customers as safe as possible in the latest phase of this pandemic. Members of the public entering a jobcentre, unless exempt, will be required to wear a face covering.”

      I doubt that many Work Coaches will want face-2-face meetings with claimants for quite a while if they have any say in the matter,


      February 23, 2021 at 4:59 pm

      • My Jobcentre has remained open throughout the pandemic. But they are only open between 10.00am to 2.00pm. for appointments only. There are five staff in place instead of twenty-five and they are only seeing the most vulnerable clients.

        jj joop

        February 23, 2021 at 7:16 pm

  8. xclausx

    February 23, 2021 at 3:53 pm

    • The only DWP benefit that is not Means Tested.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 23, 2021 at 5:14 pm

  9. Britain is writing off the debt of £ Billions, so let’s waste more public money.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 23, 2021 at 5:12 pm

    • We need to spend lots of money on an official report on poverty, which will conclude that sure enough poverty exists, people are poor, and what poor people need is more money, then carry on as normal, as you were, do nothing. Alternatively, conclude that poverty is the fault of the poor, ramp up the Conditionality and apply harsher Sanctions, apply Nudge theory to greater effect, kill all the poor, hey presto we’ve cured poverty!


      February 23, 2021 at 5:19 pm

      • So lots of job vacancies in the Nudge Unit then !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 23, 2021 at 5:36 pm

  10. Job Centres will be offering free haircuts at the Jobcentre ready for your job interview, since all the hairdressers are still closed.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 23, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    • I’ll have a tuppeny all-off. Will they also be offering “something for the weekend, Sir?”


      February 23, 2021 at 5:21 pm

      • Only if you hoover the job centre carpets & clean the Staff Toilets.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 23, 2021 at 5:35 pm

  11. I’m looking forward to going to the jobcentre!, hope that they cut my hair, I’ve got my own clippers for them to use! also looking forward to the CC


    February 23, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    • my filling fell out today and got in at the dentist for tomorrow morning, but i think pcs is going to make it difficult for face to face meetings any time soon and carry on with harassment phone calls for now.

      tho providers are open so dont be surprised if you get a letter through the door to attend induction meetings with providers and you must attend! as that part is mandatory.

      so tell them only what they need to know and noting else!


      February 23, 2021 at 5:40 pm

      • Mouth shut!!


        February 23, 2021 at 5:42 pm

      • The Job Centre now does dentist work as well as haircut superted.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 23, 2021 at 5:44 pm

      • Supertet what’s wrong with providers?


        February 23, 2021 at 6:10 pm

      • if you sign there contracts they can then sanction you for not following there rules and regs.

        if they send you on 6 months of workfare and start not turning up on time ect they will sanction you and you still have to attend!

        all providers do is use you as a profit unit they have no interest in getting you in to a job there business model is on unemployment and more the better for them.

        you are also classed as in training when at providers so not included in the unemployment numbers.

        i used to do that as well end the claim on Friday and put in a rapid reclaim on Monday but stopped that long ago.


        February 23, 2021 at 6:23 pm

      • Well the last provider I went to years ago found me a job so nothing wrong with that.

        You should undrerstand that I have no problem with the DWP or providers. while others fear them.


        February 23, 2021 at 7:04 pm

      • non of the 3rd party company’s has made any difference as those that could would find work with or without there so called help anyway just look at the work programme total disaster same as all the others.

        doing a 6 week course on making bath bombs is not going to help my cv is it but makes them a nice lump sum.

        for some ppl these providers are just out right bully’s on the first wp they was phoning ppl non stop and banging on there doors to get there paperwork signed.


        and they will put your mug shot on facebook for all to see well you did sign that contract 😉


        February 23, 2021 at 7:13 pm

      • DSC_0273_03

        what about a 6 week course on how to wipe ur own ass pmsl 😉


        February 23, 2021 at 7:17 pm

      • Superted you can stop now, nothing will change ME!!


        February 23, 2021 at 7:18 pm

      • and they wont change me either im not signing anything 😉



        February 23, 2021 at 7:37 pm

  12. You can get your black market Vaccine Passports of Ebay.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 23, 2021 at 5:39 pm

  13. From the Graun in 2017

    “Beveridge saw work as the true solution to poverty. It is a mantra that governments have chanted with glee ever since. But while poverty levels have remained fairly constant over the past decade – at roughly 21% of the population or 13 million people – an unprecedented 67% of British children in poverty now live in a household where someone is in work. The new poor, the IFS argues, are an even larger group than these official figures suggest, with previously secure middle-class families living increasingly precarious lives and with people cycling in and out of the official definition of poverty once or twice a year.”



    February 23, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    • Political Poverty is called propaganda.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 23, 2021 at 5:45 pm

  14. Universal Credit was designed to cure unemployment [figures]. Work for your Universal Credit benefit makes you a job figure with no unemployment. Iain Doppy Shit “IDS” thought of that one.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 23, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    • I think 2022 will be the year unemployed will be no more.


      February 23, 2021 at 6:12 pm

      • Because they’ll have to introduce a Unconditional Basic Income instead and allow people to access their State Pensions at age 60+. There won’t be any jobs for a decade or more.


        February 23, 2021 at 7:03 pm

  15. My WC is not even in the Jobcentre she’s working from home, probably in her dressing gown all day phoning up claiments🤮

    Big bird

    February 23, 2021 at 6:49 pm

    • Scoffing toast in her jim-jams, or joggers, phoning folk in between watching Judge Judy.


      February 23, 2021 at 7:00 pm

  16. seems all the wc are women then lol last time i counted there was 4 male wc over 2 floors.


    February 23, 2021 at 7:05 pm

  17. The Pimps are on the march and getting ready for another feeding frenzy at the money-troughs

    Programme Director – Cambridge

    We are currently bidding on a number of contract package areas for the new government Restart scheme, the outcome of which is due to be announced by the 16th April 2021. Final stage interviews will take place from the 19th April 2021 onward. This role is an expression of interest for potential future opportunities within Reed in Partnership.


    jj joop

    February 23, 2021 at 8:22 pm

    • Alongside these protections to ensure that all participants receive regular, personalised support, Restart will use a balanced Payment by Results model. Providers will be incentivised to help as many people as possible into sustained employment: the more people they help, the more outcome payments they will receive.


      just like the first wp where you find a job on your own with no help from them bar a computer to look and apply for jobs on and then they want there money for nothing.

      Click to access wp-costs-to-31-march-2013.pdf


      February 23, 2021 at 8:53 pm

      • @superted

        I am guessing that due to the Covid situation, they won’t be packing as many claimants as they can in to a confined space like before. And they will almost certainly expect all slaves to have been vaccinated as well!

        jj joop

        February 24, 2021 at 8:57 am

  18. So is the Work & Health Programme finished now and the Restart scheme set to replace it? Or are both programmes going to be run in parallel? And how can either of them run successfully until the Covid contagion has died away enough for people to mix indoors without having to wear masks? As I remember it Restart has been pencilled in to begin in July and sounds pretty much like a cut-down version of every other similar scheme from Labour’s New Deal onward.


    Surely they won’t try to crowbar older people onto the Restart programme considering that danger from coronavirus increases exponentially with age? Are we really going to see people over sixty with bags of experience forced to attend useless classes with unemployed teens and people in their twenties about polishing CVs, becoming self-confident, interview techniques, finding “hidden jobs”, networking with colleagues, family and friends, making an impression and how to “sell” themselves to employers and so on… and on… and on… and so forth? Or shown “motivational” videos about people who have overcome barriers to work and now happy as a pig in sh1t doing some usually quite ordinary minimum wage job? Or offered “work experience” for employers as unpaid labour, without picking up a single skill or worthwhile qualification? Or offered “training” for useless NVQs, first aid or food hygiene certificates, far too elementary to give them an edge and make the slightest difference insofar as securing gainful employment is concerned?

    Steel yourselves for here comes the Restart programme personally tailored to satisfy everybody’s needs!


    February 24, 2021 at 9:11 am

    • Restart is particularly aimed at older people and those who have been claiming longer. It’s nothing to do with economic recovery from the pandemic, it’s just been slyly introduced on the back of that.

      “The three-year scheme will be open to people who have been out of work for more than 12 months, and will provide them with regular intensive support in finding work. It will be aimed at older workers in particular.”


      It’s not so much the ‘new normal’, just the same old shit, completely lacking in imagination, nothing innovative, just pointless bullshit to mess people around whilst transferring yet more public money into private ‘Provider’ companies whilst fooling gullible Joe public/middle England voters into thinking that the Government are tackling unemployment.


      February 24, 2021 at 9:56 am

      • Absolutely right Trev ! It’s just the same old nonsense with a new name. They can call it whatever they like.
        With the mass unemployment that is to come, it has no chance of making any real difference. But it will look as if the government are making the unemployed work for their benefits.

        Jeff Smith

        February 24, 2021 at 2:10 pm

      • So much for the “new normal”, the Tories are sticking with the same old worn out ideas, the tried and failed approach, like nothing’s happened. Instead of leaving older claimants alone like they do in Ireland, annual signing and exemption from participating in employment schemes, they seem determined to milk it to the end by using people to fund third party providers riding the lucrative welfare-to-work gravy train. They’re turning a deaf ear to calls for early access to State Pension, or UBI. Let’s hope it all comes back to bite them on the arse when unemployment figures soar into the millions necessitating a change of direction.


        February 24, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    • Restart seems to be a pared down version of the WP. I ‘did’ the WP but because I declined to sign their data protection waiver they couldn’t rent me out for so called work experience to the likes of Budgens, etc or share my personal data with anyone other than the Jobcentre. So they parked me for the next two years. I came in once every two weeks for two hours and did a jobsearch on a computer and had a brief chat with my advisor, who to be fair, wasn’t all that bad a person. The jobsearch consisted of a twenty minute online search and the rest of time chatting to other jobseekers or drinking tea and reading a paper. If I had known then that I didn’t have to sign any of their paperwork, contracts and so on, I would have been booted off there from the get-go.

      jj joop

      February 24, 2021 at 12:30 pm

      • Interesting tactic JJ, not a full refusal like Superted, and blood on the carpet. But you did avoid the slave-labour placements.

        Jeff Smith

        February 24, 2021 at 2:27 pm

      • @jj joop Same here. I went through four different advisors on the wp. The only “job” they ever sent me for was working on an industrial estate, two hours a day, five days a week. Not enough to even cover my bus fare. I refused point blank and the advisor got in such a fluster, he made a complete mess of filling in the sanction form. When I went to sign on at the Jobcenter, they couldn’t make head nor tail of it, so it was dropped.

        Small victories.


        February 24, 2021 at 10:37 pm

  19. This open letter could help us stop discriminating domestic health passports.


    February 24, 2021 at 12:34 pm

  20. Cloverleaf

    February 24, 2021 at 12:36 pm

  21. Never mind.


    February 24, 2021 at 12:38 pm

  22. Stop lying.



    February 24, 2021 at 12:49 pm

  23. Cloverleaf

    February 24, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    • Don’t say that I’m all set to get back to work!!


      February 24, 2021 at 1:01 pm

      • Are you some kind of Tory Troll ? All we hear is how much you want to get back to work, and praise for your Jobcentre.

        George M

        February 24, 2021 at 2:11 pm

      • He thinks he’s the only one who’s ever worked. Probably one of the “I pay my Taxes” brigade.


        February 24, 2021 at 2:29 pm

      • Another one!!


        February 24, 2021 at 2:13 pm

      • From the one who expects UBI for sitting on his ass all day.


        February 25, 2021 at 4:56 am

  24. You’ll be lucky 🍀.


    February 24, 2021 at 1:07 pm

  25. A very smart rabbi states 31 reasons why he will never receive the c-19 vaccine!



    February 24, 2021 at 1:22 pm

    • LOL what a screwball.


      February 24, 2021 at 2:33 pm

      • Lol, imagine a vaccine so safe you have to be threatened to take it, for a disease so deadly you have to be tested to know that you have it.


        February 24, 2021 at 6:21 pm

      • Cloverleaf, if you don’t want to be vaccinated that’s your choice, it’s entirely up to you, but you’re not going to convince anyone else with your madness. It’s natural selection, like people who play on railway lines, or attempt to steal scrap metal from live electricity boxes.


        February 24, 2021 at 6:36 pm

    • On a point of principle I never pay any attention to anything that strongly religious people have to say.


      February 24, 2021 at 5:03 pm

    • Ignorance.


      February 25, 2021 at 4:47 am

  26. well i went to the dentist and found a construction zone with piles of boxes of flooring and other stuff paint ect in the waiting room and it stank of gloss paint was only there 20mins and got a banging headache now.


    February 24, 2021 at 2:23 pm

  27. I was waiting for a friend outside the JC just before the pandemic struck. an older man came out, must have been in his sixties. He was carrying a piece of official-looking DWP paper. It looked like a summons to attend some course or other. He looks up at me and says ”Why don’t they just fuck off ? ”, and walked away.
    When you think about it, why don’t they ?

    Jeff Smith

    February 24, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    • I’ve said the same thing myself many a time but so far have managed to stop myself saying it to the Work Coaches. The Tories, the DWP, the Nudge Unit, the Jobcentre do indeed need to just fuck off!


      February 24, 2021 at 2:59 pm

    • The reason why “they don’t just fuck off” is because Work Coaches are given quotas and targets to meet by the DWP, e.g., w people agreeing to attend a jobs fair, x moving into work, y pushed onto a scheme, z drafted onto work experience or elementary training schemes and so forth on a weekly/monthly basis. The idea is to “motivate” staff, more by the stick than the carrot, who would more than likely not bother to chivvy people into agreeing to do useless schemes, courses, work experience and other meaningless activities. My bet is that targets like these will be raised sky high when the lockdown ends and the DWP is desperate to drive down the unemployment count down mostly for political purposes.


      February 24, 2021 at 5:01 pm

      • Thing is there are many people today who have never known any different and just take it for granted that this is the way it is, how it’s always been, but those of us who remember signing-on at the Unemployment Benefit Office in the days before Jobcentres existed know otherwise and are still largely in disbelief at the ways in which we are now treated and by the downright bleedin liberties being taken by these jumped-up bloody jobsworth Dole clerk twats in the Jobcentre these days. Just who the fuck do they think they are? Since when were they put in charge over peoples’ lives telling people what to do and all the rest? If they had spoken to you like that in the 70s at the Dole office you would have told them in no uncertain terms where to stick it. And they probably in many cases would have got a black eye to go with it!


        February 24, 2021 at 6:12 pm

      • The worst thing of all is that a lot of these “opportunities” are voluntary and can be refused, which is why the DWP can act spitefully by condemning “refusers” to daily signings and such like, which was what happened to a lot of people refusing to allow Work Coaches access to their Universal Jobmatch accounts, which they were perfectly entitled to do under the law. Sensible people should always ask whether what is being offered to them is compulsory or not and then weigh up whether refusal accompanied by some risk of reprisal or acceptance is the best option: if it’s workfare it’s definitely better to refuse than be used as unemployed labour for six months, on the other hand if it’s just a quick in and out affair, e.g., job fair or similar, often it’s simplest to play along and agree attendance.

        In my view nobody should work for any private employer for no wages under any circumstances.

        Workfare in my opinion is a definite no-no for all and everybody.


        February 24, 2021 at 6:35 pm

      • if they give you a letter to attend a provider for induction or a skills assessment at a providers office you must attend as it is mandatory you do this and so have completed the task in hand to the letter.

        buy law you are not required to sign anything that is your choice.

        i have been told to attend the jcp office to get my cv changed and again done what i was told, they then wanted access to my ujm account to change my cv, i said forget it not going to happen, i said put it on paper and ill take it home and change it my self.

        after about 20 mins of going nowhere was told to leave and sign this so imo they got paid for it, i said no because buy law i dont have to sign anything and replied well ill raise a sanction doubt then i said thats fine i have done what i was told to the letter.

        that time the wc did not want to push the sanction button but just goes to show its all about the money for nothing and when they cant get it try to shit on you with sanction doubts.

        and i got lots of those over the years yet the dwp are still on 0 sanction wins 😉


        February 24, 2021 at 6:53 pm

  28. Reblogged this on Tory Britain! .


    February 24, 2021 at 5:31 pm

  29. Universal Credit Update – February 2021
    24 Feb 2021
    Group Executive Committee (GEC) negotiators met with senior Work and Health management recently at which we raised a number of issues affecting PCS members working in Universal Credit (UC) Service Centres and Jobcentres

    A Members’ Bulletin provides feedback from the meeting and subsequent announcements from the employer.

    Download and read the bulletin.


    it wont let me download it tho.


    February 24, 2021 at 8:01 pm

  30. Recruitment
    DWP announced in September 2020 that in reaction to the pandemic and a forecasted huge increase in unemployment, they were doubling the number of Work Coaches to 27,000 by March 2021. This would be achieved by recruitment and a promotion exercise. The plan then was that the department would have 4,500 Work Coaches in place by October 2020, with a further 9,000 by March 2021. The promotion exercise resulted in 2,268 AO grade staff in UC being successful. However, this meant that there was a requirement for those posts to be backfilled. As a result, DWP are recruiting 3,500 new AO’s to work in Service Centres. Unfortunately, the majority of the new Work Coach and Service Centre AO jobs are not permanent. Group negotiators continue to argue robustly for all new recruits to DWP to be on a permanent basis.

    Work Coach Training
    The GEC were contacted by members concerned about the training that they had received for the Work Coach role. The concerns raised included, the length of the training course, consolidation, security and no continuity of Team Leader’s or Training Officers. GEC negotiators raised these concerns at the Work and Health meeting on 4 February 2021. The employer responded by advising that following extensive research into how they can transform and modernise their learning to suit how adults learn best and how they can continue their learning beyond the virtual classroom, P&C Learning Design and Delivery (LDD) have put in place an LDD Learning Transformation Project. It is their aim to work collaboratively in a multi-disciplined team, with colleagues from across DWP, to support staff in their continuous learning journey. Senior Work and Health managers have advised that the first Learning Journey DWP transformed was the Work Coach Learning Journey, as with the massive recruitment of Work Coaches and their Team Leaders, this seemed the most sensible place to start.  In line with the 2023 DWP People Strategy, they have aligned the way they design and deliver learning, adopting the 70:20:10 learning model – 10% being what you learn in the classroom, 20% is how you consolidate and 70% being what you learn on the job. After wide consultation with Subject Matter Experts, DWP were able to move some of the learning material outside the classroom and make it more point-of-need learning, allowing colleagues to self-serve, (with support from their mentors/Team Leaders), as and when they needed it, rather than just have one opportunity to learn in the classroom – so moving away from being only reliant on courses and more into resources. This approach has meant that DWP were able to transform the Work Coach Learning Journey from 52 days to 25 days (including consolidation) and put some wrap around support in place. DWP are currently evaluating the impact of the Transformation changes they have made and whilst they accept there are still a few challenges to address, overall they are really encouraged by how well this has been received.  Work and Health management have stated that the DWP evaluation strategy allows them to listen and improve all of the learning journeys they are transforming.

    Any new Work Coach who feels that they require further training or consolidation should, in the first instance, speak with your Team Leader and if the issue cannot be resolved your local PCS representative.

    Saturday opening
    The DWP introduced Saturday opening in 262 of the largest Jobcentres and 21 UC Service Centres in December. PCS have robustly argued that there should be no Saturday opening during the current COVID-19 surge. However, we have not so far convinced DWP to suspend the Saturday physical service, despite repeatedly requesting that all DWP buildings should be closed over the weekend. According to DWP, the number of customers being seen on a Saturday is “negligible”, which has been backed up by reports from reps up and down the country. PCS requested a “circuit break” to reduce the risk to members and the public on Saturday’s, whilst maintaining a remote service. PCS will continue to push for the suspension of Saturday working across Jobcentres and UC Service Centres.

    Claimant Commitment and Work Search Review Interviews
    DWP/MB/161/20 provided an update on the reduction of appointment times for Claimant Commitment interviews and Work Focus Interventions. The concession achieved, as a result of the Consultative Ballot in August last year, that Work Coaches had the “empowerment” with regards how they interviewed a claimant, was welcomed by a group of members working under tremendous pressure. The fact that Work Coaches are in control of how they conducted an interview, whether by face-to-face, digitally or by telephone, has helped alleviate many of the pressures, including their safety as a result of COVID-19. However, the decision to reduce Claimant Commitment interviews in July 2020 was not universally welcomed by Work Coaches. PCS not only made clear our fundamental opposition to the reinstatement of conditionality and sanctions with DWP, but also the reduction in appointment times with claimants. The decision to reduce the First Commitments appointment time from 50 to 30 minutes and Work Focus Intervention from 20 to 10 minutes saw many Work Coach members contact the GEC to express their anger at what they saw as taking away their autonomy. This was particularly highlighted in the Work Search Reviews, which are now limited to only 10 minutes, when previously the timings of those appointments were at the discretion of the Work Coach. DWP issued new COVID-19 Universal Credit (UC) diary management and appointment booking guidance at the end of October. Some members told us that they were not able to take any breaks between the 10 minute interviews and this, in addition to increased caseload pressure, has resulted in reports of staff feeling extremely stressed. In fact, some have stated that if the situation is not changed quickly, they will be forced to go off on sick leave. This is a worrying development which DWP must address as a matter of urgency. DWP advised in November 2020 that the reduction in appointment times was a temporary measure as the department faced a large increase in UC and New Style JSA claims. At a meeting with senior Work and Health Services management on 2 December 2020, PCS were advised that appointment timings were subject to a review on an ongoing basis as they want to provide as much help to customers as possible. Management confirmed that breaks between interviews had not been withdrawn, as had been reported by some members. They also stated that they will look at Work Coach caseloads with a view to supporting staff and providing clear messaging on what can be done in 10 minutes. In addition to Work Coaches expressing concerns, PCS have been contacted by some claimant representative groups advising that they are concerned about what they see as a reduction in service. They are at pains to point out that they don’t blame the Work Coaches, but the department for reducing the timings of appointments. This view is shared by Work Coach members who take great pride in helping people, many of them vulnerable, in their time of need and feel that they are unable to do so because they are not allocated enough time. The GEC continue to be contacted by members regarding the use of speadsheets, which they feel are unnecessary and time consuming. Management confirmed that they are currently looking at spreadsheets/trackers and how they are used moving forward, including whether they are necessary.

    Conditionality and Sanctions
    PCS continue to raise our opposition to conditionality and sanctions with DWP. In the early stages of the pandemic in March last year, PCS demanded the immediate suspension of all conditionality and sanctions as the priority should have been paying benefit to millions of people who had been affected by the economic fallout from the crisis. Thankfully, all conditionality and sanctions were suspended shortly afterwards. This allowed our members to deal with 2.5 million new claims for UC and in doing so meant that they could concentrate on providing the necessary support to those claiming benefits. Disappointingly, DWP reinstated conditionality and sanctions for UC claimants in July and New Style JSA in August. Following the latest national lockdowns in England, Scotland and Wales, PCS wrote once again calling for the immediate suspension of conditionality and sanctions, once again. Although, DWP have not agreed to this request, they have pointed out the number of new sanctions issued has been very low.

    PCS were extremely disappointed to learn from local reps that conditionality had been introduced for legacy JSA claimants from 17 January 2021. Once again, PCS were not consulted about this development and have raised our disappointment with senior DWP management about this. PCS continue to argue against the conditionality and sanctions regime as we believe that is the role of our members to support those most in need in society and not penalise them. PCS believe that it is morally wrong to sanction people in normal times, never mind during a pandemic.

    AO Grading in Jobcentres
    The issue of AO grading in Jobcentres has been well documented and covered in a number of Members Bulletins over the past couple of years. The last meeting that we had with the employer on grading in Jobcentres was on 28 August 2020 at which negotiators once again requested a definitive note from management detailing what an AO job role is in Jobcentres and what clear demarcation lines are. Disappointingly, this has still not been forthcoming. As a result, we can no longer wait on the employer to address this situation. PCS formally requested a Job Evaluation and Grading Support (JEGS) exercise in October 2019. DWP have not enacted this as they met with PCS in January 2020 with a view to resolving the issue. As a result of the situation dragging on, PCS have advised senior Work and Health management that we will be doing our own mini-JEGS exercise. This exercise will be carried out over 6 Jobcentres at which members at those sites being asked to complete a Job Analysis Form (JAF). Members would be provided with full guidance on how to complete the JAF. Once we have the findings from the mini-JEGS exercise, we will discuss them with the employer and provide an update to our AO Jobcentre members.

    Staff as UC Claimants
    DWP/MB/162/20 provided the background to an issue that was raised with DWP two years ago, but to no satisfactory outcome. When PCS raised this at a Work and Health Services meeting last August, the employer were of the view that this was not an issue due to the Data Protection Act and DWP security measures. The employer requested that PCS provide examples of where staff are not happy with the current arrangement. DWP/MB/162/20 sought examples from members in order that we could go back to senior Work and Health management. The GEC would like to thank every member who took the time to respond and in doing so provide their own examples. The vast majority of responses were highly critical of how DWP staff claims for UC are handled. The GEC have now submitted these examples, anonymously, and will hopefully discuss them and how this issue can be resolved at the next Work and Health meeting on 4 March 2021.

    UC Kickstart
    DWP/MB/013/21 provided feedback from a meeting with senior UC Kickstart management on 13 January 2021. There can be no doubt that the implementation of this scheme did not get off to the best of starts with staff being compulsory transferred to Kickstart from November 2020. Those members were rightly angry about this as not only was the transfer badly handled, but serious concerns were raised with PCS regarding the lack of training. As a result of the Members Bulletin, PCS received a number of emails raising concerns. GEC negotiators took the opportunity to bring those concerns to the attention of senior UC Kickstart management at meetings on 5 and 12 February 2021. They advised that they share the concerns raised by members and state that they are determined to address those concerns. Senior UC Kickstart management have advised that they will be taking steps which will include, a dedicated HRBP. Dedicated Learning and Development Officers, a review of leadership structures, improving staff communications, a Well-being relaunch, Your Calls with senior management and the establishment of a People Group. Senior UC Kickstart management have also advised that as this scheme was the number one priority of the government, they would always be appropriately resourced. To that end, Kickstart will always be in an over-supply of staff situation. Furthermore, they have agreed to look at the grading structure and job roles. This, along with the other issues mentioned, will hopefully answer some of the concerns raised with PCS. We will continue to take issues forward with senior UC Kickstart management as they have agreed to regular engagement. PCS have raised the issue of staff not volunteering to move to Kickstart and management have agreed to look into why this has happened.

    DWP announced on 19 February 2021 that a decision has been made at the Capacity Board that all Virtual Service Centre staff, who have been supporting Kickstart, will remain in place until end of June 2021. Furthermore, all Work and Health staff who are working on Kickstart will remain there until the end of June 2021 at which point the situation will be reviewed.

    Prison Work Coaches
    DWP/MB/151/20 advised members that DWP were preparing for a phased return for Prison Work Coaches in 42 prisons in England and Wales from the first week in January 2021, after the lifting of national lockdown restrictions in early December. Prison Work Coaches were withdrawn from prisons at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic on safety grounds as it was unclear what the impact of the coronavirus would be. There were no plans for Prison Work Coaches to return in Scotland at that time. The bulletin also advised that PCS would be meeting with DWP in early December and requested that Prison Work Coach members submit comments on this development. The GEC would like to thank the Prison Work Coaches who responded. GEC negotiators subsequently met with senior DWP management and provided them with an overview of the responses from our Prison Work Coach members. It is absolutely clear from the responses that Work Coaches take great pride in their job roles and the service they provide to prisoners. It was also clear from the responses that most Prison Work Coaches were content to return to the prison workplaces, but in doing so wanted the appropriate safety measures in place before they do so. DWP made it clear that only volunteers would be sought to return to working in prisons during the trial.

    DWP notified PCS in early January 2021 that as result of the current national lockdown, they had decided to pause Prison Work Coach activity. However, they do remain committed to returning Prison Work Coaches to prisons in England and Wales and it is their intention for them to return once the national lockdown restrictions are lifted. Management have asked Prison Work Coaches to continue to prepare for their return during this time by working with prisons to undertake as much as possible of the preparatory work remotely first. DWP have stressed that once lockdown is lifted, there will need to be a prison visit to undertake a risk assessment. PCS will continue to work with DWP in order that all safety measures are in place for when it is deemed safe for Prison Work Coaches to return.

    UC National Services
    DWP/MB/018/21 provided members working on UC National Services with an update on a meeting with the Deputy Director. The positive news was that 763 NGCC telephony licences had been secured, which would now allow the entire UC National Services the ability to work from home. Members are reminded that it is crucial that home workers make themselves aware of, and use, the 6 Point Plan as this will provide a support mechanism in the event of a customer indicating that they intend to attempt suicide or self-harm. This is in addition to the comprehensive pack that management are providing to support safe working from home on national telephony. The GEC acknowledge that some PCS members, for a number of legitimate reasons, cannot work from home. However, we would urge that where members have the capacity to do so, they should consider working from home, to help minimise the risk of infection, not only to themselves, but their colleagues and families. Any member working on UC National Services and is having any problems with working from home should contact your local PCS representative in the first place and then leeds@pcs.org.uk if the issue cannot be resolved.

    Employee Deal
    Following the introduction of new working patterns for staff in 262 Jobcentres, and those delivering UC in Service Centres including Decision Makers and Disputes Resolution from 30 November 2020, the DWP Work & Health Executive Team have reviewed the position and have agreed that the current working patterns be rolled forward for 9 weeks. DWP have advised that the rationale for the decision was primarily based on feedback from staff regarding the timing of 1-2-1 conversations taking place during the summer in 2020, when some were not in work. By retaining the same 6 month working pattern again in 2021, the same problem would arise. Therefore, a 9 week rolling forward would mean that 1-2-1 conversations for the next rotation start from 29 March 2021, with notice of new patterns served on 30 April and the next 6 month working pattern in place from 2 August.

    Whilst acknowledging the rationale and agreeing the extension, PCS did so with the caveat that all applications to amend working patterns during that period would be accepted. The DWP response fell short of our request, stating that, “Current arrangements remain for colleagues to continue working the agreed patterns already in place and does not affect the ability for any individual to speak with their line manager to review these.” Therefore, any member who wishes to amend their working pattern should speak with their line manager. Members should speak with your local PCS representative if the request to amend working patterns is refused.

    DWP Work and Health Programme (WHP) Job Entry: Targeted Support (JETS)
    In response to the COVID-19 pandemic and the subsequent increase in claims to UC and New Style JSA, it was announced that DWP Strategy had been working with the External Labour Market Provision Programme and a wide range of stakeholders to deliver a programme of new, targeted provision that they claim will support the nation’s economic recovery. The DWP Work and Health Programme (WHP) Job Entry: Targeted Support (JETS) went live in England and Wales from 5 October 2020. The WHP JETS in England and Wales, including the Local Government Partner areas in London and Manchester, is being delivered through a variation to the existing WHP contract. The situation is different in Scotland as WHP does operate there. As a result, a procurement exercise was carried out for JETS Scotland with Capita PLC being awarded the contract. JETS Scotland went live on 25 January 2021. Participation in JETS Scotland is primarily voluntary, although Work Coaches have the authority to mandate some claimants to attend the scheme. DWP have advised that they expect the number of claimants mandated to this programme to be low. Claimants will remain on the provision for 6 months. The position of PCS is clear in that we do not agree that any aspect of social security should be outsourced. PCS consistently argue for a properly funded social security system staffed by civil servants. The Work and Health Programme has been subject to criticism from claimant groups, including Disability Rights UK, who point out that more than 8 out of 10 disabled claimants, from DWP’s own statistics, fail to find work through the DWP Work and Health Programme. PCS will continue to campaign for a social security system that treats people with dignity, fairness and respect.

    Job Finding Support (JFS)
    The Chancellor of Exchequer, in response to the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent increase in claims for UC and New Style JSA, announced in July 2020 the introduction of Job Finding Support (JFS) to assist those who had recently become unemployed – up to 13 weeks – who may not need extensive support, but would benefit from personalised support and advice to help them re-enter employment quickly and to improve the likelihood of securing sustainable paid employment. A single, national contract went live in England, Scotland and Wales on 11 January 2021 for 12 months, with Serco as the provider. Once again, PCS are disappointed that a private company have been chosen to administer this service. A properly resourced social security system would allow our members, the people who are the experts in helping the unemployed, the opportunity to carry out this important service. This highlights the urgent need for an overhaul of the benefits system, which PCS will continue to be at the forefront.


    February 24, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    • Prison Work Coaches, you don’t even get any peace in the nick.


      February 24, 2021 at 9:07 pm

    • But it’s good to see they have all these internal conflicts and complex issues to resolve, just shows what a complicated mess the Social Security system is in, bearing in mind this is IDS’s simplified Benefits system in action. Better to scrap it and start all over again without Jobcentres, Work Coaches, Sanctions, Conditionality, or employment schemes. Scrap the bloody lot and introduce Unconditional Basic Income.


      February 24, 2021 at 9:49 pm

  31. DWP issued new COVID-19 Universal Credit (UC) diary management and appointment booking guidance at the end of October. Some members told us that they were not able to take any breaks between the 10 minute interviews and this, in addition to increased caseload pressure, has resulted in reports of staff feeling extremely stressed. In fact, some have stated that if the situation is not changed quickly, they will be forced to go off on sick leave.

    they are sat on there ass prob at home in some cases and they want a brake every 10 mins doing phone interviews.

    these fucktards have been on 100% pay and not a peep out of them for nearly a year and that’s the mentality they all have.

    yet these are the ppl going to help you back in to work lmfao.


    February 24, 2021 at 10:20 pm

    • The more rules and regulations they impose upon claimants then the more complex, difficult, labour-intensive and expensive it all becomes to monitor , deliver and administer, to the point of it becoming unworkable and dysfunctional. Nice one IDS and Lord Fraud, you pair of feckin eejits. Rip it up and start again. We need a functioning Social Security system based upon compassion not punishment, accessible not complicated by regulations and conditions.


      February 24, 2021 at 10:32 pm

      • I agree Trev, why don’t they see sense, and just stop all this misery ? Stop the sanctions and the conditionality. Get rid of these greedy-pig training providers. And reach out to the many people in want in this country. The poor, the homeless and the desperate…….and do something to help them ?

        Jeff Smith

        February 24, 2021 at 11:16 pm

  32. Jonathan Reynolds interview: “Universal Credit is predicated on a Victorian attitude to poor people. The very ethos of it is mean”



    February 24, 2021 at 10:52 pm

  33. Ministers warned rough sleeping figures drop could mask surge in hidden homeless



    February 25, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    • The Government don’t care! There were half a million young people off the radar unaccounted for a few years ago but the Government didn’t give a toss:

      “A government spokesman declined to address the issues raised by the London Youth study and did not dispute the figures within it.

      Instead, he said: “Youth unemployment has fallen by over 40 per cent since 2010, almost nine out of 10 young people are now in education, employment or training and the government has invested around £7bn in 2017-18 to increase opportunities for young people.

      “As the prime minister announced in March, the government is also working with Big Lottery on proposals for a £90m programme funded by dormant bank accounts which will aim to address youth unemployment and support young people facing complex barriers to work.”

      The government’s key policy to cut joblessness among the young is the “youth obligation”, introduced in April last year.

      All 18- to 21-year-olds are promised “intensive support” from job centre advisers on putting in applications and interview techniques.

      If they refuse to take a job, apprenticeship, traineeship or work experience after six months they can be stripped of their benefits.”



      February 25, 2021 at 3:40 pm

  34. Not long now until the final back-stabbing for the legacy claimants, over the £20 uplift.

    George M

    February 25, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    • Not a cat in hell’s chance of us getting it.


      February 25, 2021 at 3:44 pm

  35. NHS prescription charges in England to go up again despite calls to scrap hated fees



    February 25, 2021 at 4:20 pm

  36. Andrew Coates

    February 25, 2021 at 5:52 pm

    • One of many who are cashing in in these times of job losses, food banks and all the rest.


      February 25, 2021 at 6:15 pm

  37. Orwell’s Final Warning-Picture Of The Future!


    February 25, 2021 at 6:36 pm

  38. Ten people a day die waiting for cruel ‘six months to live’ benefits rule to end

    The rules fast-track dying people’s benefit claims or pay them at higher rate.

    But thousands don’t qualify because they have to produce a doctors’ note predicting they have less than six months to live.

    New figures show 7,260 people died from April 2018 to April 2020 waiting for a decision on their PIP benefit claim, or 10 per day.



    February 25, 2021 at 7:12 pm

    • Bad stuff indicative of the mindset of David Freud and Iain Duncan Smith. Fancy making it a law that someone terminally ill has to “actively seek and accept work” if more than six months away from the grave. Jesus! As if any doctor or specialist can accurately predict the remaining lifespan of a fatally ill person to the month! The mind boggles. However did we end up with a social security system designed by a couple of cruel idiotic dicks like Freud and IDS? No wonder everything seems to be going belly up.


      February 26, 2021 at 8:23 am

  39. trev

    February 25, 2021 at 7:39 pm

  40. A New Beveridge Report

    “The coronavirus pandemic has exposed deep flaws in a social security system built for a different age. Now, more than ever, it is time to lay out a new vision for the future”, writes David Coats.

    This originally appeared in Spring 2020



    February 25, 2021 at 7:53 pm

  41. DWP hire 10,000 ‘work coaches’ as number of Universal Credit claims double

    Up to 4.5 million people have signed up for Universal Credit since March and 1.5 million have stopped receiving the benefit.

    DWP claim that new employment support for 40,000 jobseekers of all ages through the Work Academy Programme will help jobseeker’s to learn new skills through a mixture of work experience and training. They say that this will be followed up with a genuine job interview.



    February 26, 2021 at 11:54 am

  42. Let the pimping commence !!!

    Kickstart – Trade Counter Sales Assistant / Driver – Eurocell -Cambridge


    jj joop

    February 26, 2021 at 12:28 pm

    • @jj joop – The Shape of Things To Come, 6 month make-work contracts.

      Jeff Smith

      February 26, 2021 at 7:49 pm

  43. Sunaks billionaire wife £100,000 furlough shame.


    February 26, 2021 at 12:44 pm

  44. superted

    February 26, 2021 at 3:21 pm

  45. What COVID-19 has taught us about the benefit system we want



    February 26, 2021 at 4:04 pm

  46. trev

    February 26, 2021 at 4:13 pm

  47. Imperial Folly:Neil Ferguson Has No Qualifications In Biological Sciences!



    February 26, 2021 at 6:10 pm

    • “Neil Morris Ferguson OBE FMedSci (born 1968) is a British epidemiologist and professor of mathematical biology, who specialises in the patterns of spread of infectious disease in humans and animals. He is the director of the Jameel Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics (J-IDEA), director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis, and head of the Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology in the School of Public Health and Vice-Dean for Academic Development in the Faculty of Medicine, all at Imperial College London.

      Ferguson has used mathematical modelling to provide data on several disease outbreaks including the 2001 United Kingdom foot-and-mouth outbreak, the swine flu outbreak in 2009 in the UK, the 2012 Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus outbreak and the ebola epidemic in Western Africa in 2016. His work has also included research on mosquito-borne diseases including zika fever, yellow fever, dengue fever and malaria.

      In February 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, which was first detected in China, Ferguson and his team used statistical models to estimate that cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) were significantly under-detected in China. He is part of UK’s Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team.”



      February 26, 2021 at 6:50 pm

      • Ferguson is an evil lying b@stard who works for Bill Gates and will say and do anything to get £££millions for himself and unimperial college!


        February 26, 2021 at 7:04 pm

      • Tigerlily you need psychiatric help.


        February 26, 2021 at 7:13 pm

      • @Tigerlily – Your remark about Professor Ferguson is arguably libellous. He is a highly-respected scientist.
        And deserves better than your cheap insults. If you have a genuine difference of opinion, then fair enough.
        But there is no need whatever for you to attack the professor in this way.

        Jeff Smith

        February 26, 2021 at 7:55 pm

    • The joker ferguson has more cheek than the one in Gotham City.


      February 26, 2021 at 8:01 pm

  48. What should be in Rishi Sunak’s budget?

    Five Mirror writers reveal what they would do if they were Chancellor, including a permanent uplift to Universal Credit and targeted tax relief for small businesses

    Six months is a start, but people can’t live with the insecurity of knowing even this thin £20 lifeline will be pulled away.

    The Chancellor must also include millions of disabled people who have been left out of this £20 support, and end the five-week-wait for help.

    These actions will seriously reduce the foodbank queues.

    That means putting money in people’s pockets, creating jobs, saving businesses, reviving public services and increasing taxes only on the highest earners and wealthiest.

    So adopt a £9.50 (£10.85 London) real living wage, abandon pay freezes for cops to council workers and boost benefits instead of just maintaining £20 Universal Credit.



    February 26, 2021 at 6:47 pm

    • The Chancellor must also include thousands of JSA claimants who have been left out of this £20 support too, back-dated to April 2020. This will stimulate the economy and create jobs.


      February 26, 2021 at 7:17 pm

      • @trev- Agreed Trev, though it seems that he only intends a 6 month increase just for the Universal Credit claimants. Things have been ominously quiet regarding legacy benefits. And of course the official line now seems to be, if you want the extra £20 transfer to Universal Credit.

        Jeff Smith

        February 26, 2021 at 7:59 pm

      • I’ll accept a cheque.


        February 26, 2021 at 8:05 pm

  49. Tigerlily don’t be silly,
    You have become a prat,
    All we hear from you is nonsense,
    And far too much of that.

    From David Icke to vaccines,
    You are always off the ball,
    If you’re just going to post stupidity,
    Why bother to post at all ?

    Random Poet

    February 26, 2021 at 7:45 pm

  50. Care Home “Covid” Deaths Have Increased By 240% Since Vaccinations Began!



    February 26, 2021 at 8:01 pm

    • Utter nonsense.


      February 26, 2021 at 8:03 pm

      • So Trev, do you think that the culling of the elderly is irrelevant, it should just be swept under the carpet!


        February 26, 2021 at 9:17 pm

      • No, I think it’s fake news being spread by anti-vax propagandists.


        February 26, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    • Tigerlily seems to be some sort of professional moron.

      George M

      February 26, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    • The Queen (94) has been vaccinated against Covid-19, although I suppose you will say that this is fake news and government pro-jab propaganda to help cull the poorly and the elderly or similar, Tigerlily. My goodness you sound silly don’t you know?



      February 28, 2021 at 10:12 am

  51. Is that what (M) stands for?


    February 26, 2021 at 8:23 pm

    • ‘M’ stands for Mother, the Director of the Ministry of Elite Intelligence.


      February 26, 2021 at 9:01 pm

  52. And where is the proof it is being spread by anti-vaxxtard propagandists, where is your proof?


    February 26, 2021 at 9:48 pm

    • My own Intuition is sufficient in this case to convince me. Those crank conspiracy websites are rarely trustworthy or reliable sources of information.


      February 26, 2021 at 10:03 pm

      • https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending12february2021

        Across the UK, there were 17,136 deaths (all causes) registered in Week 6 (week ending 12 February 2021), which was 3,617 deaths higher than the UK five-year average and 2,024 fewer deaths than in Week 5 (week ending 5 February 2021). Of these deaths, 6,113 involved the coronavirus (COVID-19), 1,710 fewer deaths than in Week 5 (21.9% decrease) (Figure 8).

        and it is the same every year for the last ten years or more this time of year, if i had to live in a care home id rather kill my self anyway tbh or just get kicked out for doing donuts on the carpet wiping my ass. 😉


        February 26, 2021 at 10:24 pm

      • Trev

        When either or both sides refuse to debate we all just end up with two theories, a choice and no clear understanding.

        I find it troubling when the 1918 and 1968 flu virus strains are still very much around that we dont treat them with the same reverence. H1N1 (1918) unlike Covid does not discriminate against age and health yet over a hundred years on we dont see the herd immunity breaking down. H3N2 very much mimics the points of attack of covid yet rather than acknowledge in both 4 specific groups at risk of death let alone hospitalization, we instead in the case of covid are going around advocating everyone should get vaccinated when in truth the unknown entity in cases having zero health conditions remains less than 10% of all hospitalization according to studies recently being carried out in the USA.

        Over 65s are at a higher risk solely because the body breaks down and can make way for these 4 groups yet the current stark reality is its these 4 groups that is more prevalent than the age of a person itself.
        What im saying is or should i say medical researchers are suggesting is that your current health is the deciding factor on whether or not you require a vaccine so as to sustain life.

        What this in turn suggests, this vaccine is more about the strain on the NHS than it is about preserving the most vulnerable.

        To put this into context, if we all carried on with our lives with no restrictions, no vaccine that over time these 4 groups that within themselves carry multiple health conditions would themselves once the covid rush was over as so to speak, seriously lower patient numbers on the NHS of other health conditions overall which in turn would lower the need for medicine, staff as well as make us have to take a hard look at certain treatments that along with the medicine being used are putting once better defended against death individuals straight in the line of fire.


        February 27, 2021 at 6:44 am

    • The BBC said so…there is your proof, anyway the vaccination for “the virus” isn’t a vaccine so one can’t be an anti-vaxxer if one is against it!


      February 26, 2021 at 10:07 pm

      • I didn’t ask for proof. Old people having died after being vaccinated does not mean that a connection exists. And of course it is a vaccine. Better to get vaccinated against Covid than not.


        February 26, 2021 at 10:19 pm

  53. @trev – You are the voice of common-sense on this blog. Unlike these vaccine-denying idiots.

    Jeff Smith

    February 26, 2021 at 11:18 pm

  54. Ex-Great Britain swimmer sleeping rough in graveyard as she can’t access pension

    Laranie McHendrie Decaire, 64, said she’s been homeless and has “existed on absolutely no money” for four years due to a change in the system which plunged her into destitution



    February 27, 2021 at 2:56 am

  55. The real reason why there is no chance of a universal basic income, earlier retirement age or humanisation of Britain’s social security system is that not enough of the voting public want it. No government that wanted to move towards a more socially just and compassionate welfare system, which needed more direct taxation for everybody to fund it, would ever get elected which is exactly why no party, including the Labour party, is offering it and one of the reasons Jeremy Corbyn led Labour to its second biggest defeat in the party’s history in 2019. Saint Polly of Toynbee says it better than me.



    February 27, 2021 at 8:35 am

    • You’ve got to remember that the Guardian are also playing Politics and that there’s Political in-fighting within the Left, within newspapers like the Graun and within the Labour party itself of course. Toynbee is a post-Blairite who did her best to undermine Corbyn and now supports Starmer. Then you’ve got people like John Harris and Owen Jones. The figures Toynbee quotes from some poll or other are immaterial, we don’t know which people were asked or exactly how the question was framed, did people understand the context of the question they were being asked, etc.? Fuck Polly Toynbee. What the fuck does she know about living on State Benefits?


      February 27, 2021 at 1:41 pm

    • Corbyn never needed anyone to undermine him, he managed to do that all on his own. Taking down the Labour Party with him to political disaster. What a statesman, what an intellect. Who can fail to remember his contribution to the Salisbury incident, when he suggested that a sample of the Russian nerve-agent be sent to Moscow for analysis ?

      Jeff Smith

      February 27, 2021 at 2:08 pm

      • Well I only mentioned Corbyn more incidentally than anything else as an example of Toynbee’s position, but regardless of our personal views and opinions of Jeremy Corbyn the point now is that people like Toynbee and in her position will always push the ‘Blairite’ version of Social Security /State Benefits and try justify their views by claiming that’s what the people want. Remember New Labour’s ‘New Deal’ that was underpinned by the threat of 3 months Sanctions? That’s where the rot set in, and we need to move on from that punitive sort of approach, regardless of middle class Blairite twats like Polly Toynbee.


        February 27, 2021 at 3:37 pm

      • P.S.

        And also I think one of the reasons I dislike Toynbee’s article is that in claiming that ‘the public’ are in disagreement with a fairer Benefits system (or a better functioning Social Security system) it smacks of that old trick of pitting one section of society against another, divide and rule that the Rightwing are so fond of using, when in fact a functional Social Security system benefits the whole of Society. It depends how the question is worded. Try asking the public about the existence of foodbanks and see what their opinion is. But even that would be subject to how it’s worded.


        February 27, 2021 at 7:00 pm

  56. Apprenticeships regardless of age.

    Instead of having a single employer, they will be linked to an agency that will place them with various relevant organisations.



    February 27, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    • Here we go again, xclausx the live-in Blue Tory of this blog. Once again harping on about work.

      George M

      February 27, 2021 at 2:11 pm

      • You still don’t know that is another warning posted on here.


        February 27, 2021 at 2:17 pm

      • Do you want to be put on a low wage apprenticeships – no.

        Do you want to be on any so called training scheme – no

        the end of the eviction ban.


        soup kitchens.

        They are all warnings.


        February 27, 2021 at 3:06 pm

  57. MSM start to ask questions?


    February 27, 2021 at 1:19 pm

  58. There is no Covid, the daily hate will spin some more lies and the rest of the rags will follow!


    February 27, 2021 at 3:51 pm

    • “There is no Covid”. You wonder why people have a problem with statements like that? You are most likely suffering from some form of psychosis and paranoid delusions.


      February 27, 2021 at 5:20 pm

      • That’s it Trev, anyone who deviates from the main stream narrative is labelled as mentally ill!


        February 27, 2021 at 6:39 pm

      • But your claim is preposterous, “there is no Covid”, when it has spread all around the globe and 2.5 Million people have died from it. It’s like saying the earth is flat.


        February 27, 2021 at 6:50 pm

  59. It’s so bad now that David Cameron is even moaning about it all now, Jeremy Hunt is saying a lot & George Osbourne about how crap Boris Johnson is.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 27, 2021 at 6:20 pm

  60. Andrew Coates

    February 27, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    • legacy benefits, disabled, poorer by the day because of the cost of all.


      February 27, 2021 at 9:02 pm

    • Unfortunately the DWP can still spin the idea that legacy claimants can get the £20 uplift. But they just have to make an easy transfer to Universal Credit. As if it is the fault of the legacy claimants for still clinging to the JSA / ESA system. It also contains the implied suggestion that the legacy claimants are perhaps not as keen
      on employment, as they might be. And don’t want to undertake the stricter system of Universal Credit.

      Jeff Smith

      February 27, 2021 at 11:32 pm

      • the law is the same for both benefits whats different is the way you make the claim digital buy default but that’s not the case as you can apply over the phone for uc but that’s a secret.

        the main difference is the cc is now online linked to your uc account that they will also want you to provide work search proof that you cant edit! its there forever!

        they can also change the cc and if you dont log in within 7 days and accept it the hole claim is shut down.

        if you get sanctioned how are you going to manage the uc claim if you cant afford the internet any more.

        and all they will say its your fault for doing the claim online in the first place lol 😉


        February 27, 2021 at 11:50 pm

      • @Jeff Smith

        I asked my coach if I should apply for UC, what with twenty quid uplift, and she advised me not to. She advised me to wait until I am told in writing to apply, i.e. official migration !

        jj joop

        February 28, 2021 at 12:25 pm

      • There really is no valid reason for them to withhold the increase from legacy Benefits, other than pure meanness. That crap excuse about the IT system can’t be altered is absolute nonsense, they can take money off you for things like loan repayments so the amounts clearly can be varied and could be increased too. We are simply viewed as the undeserving poor by a cabinet of millionaires in top hats, same as in Victorian times, Tory bastards.


        February 28, 2021 at 1:22 pm

      • @superted- That is not true Superted. The conditions for a legacy claim to JSA mean that you cannot be asked to apply for zero hours work, or part-time work of less than 21 hours a week.
        On Universal Credit a claimant can be mandated to apply for zero-hours jobs, or part-time work , without any specific limitation on hours. So if its 5 hours a week, you’re on it.
        In addition, a 35 Hour Jobsearch is an expected condition of Universal Credit.

        Jeff Smith

        February 28, 2021 at 5:10 pm

      • every job i apply for is a zero hr job so no difference there and the 35hr job search is a expectation it cannot be enforced buy law because the dwp has already lost at upper tribunal.

        as long as you are looking and applying for work the time taken does not matter and the foi also states this it is just another pressure tactic to grind ppl down.

        i will never do a 35hr job search because i can fill a a4 page of job applications every week in 30mins.


        February 28, 2021 at 5:20 pm

  61. I’m not sure why Tigerlily has not been blocked long ago from Ipswich Unemployed Action ?
    Perhaps Andrew Coates is allowing this person to post these dreadful comments of virus-denial as a sort of agent provocateur ?

    George M

    February 27, 2021 at 11:37 pm

    • Or maybe Andrew Coates believes in the freedom of expression.

      Either way its his site and his decision to run it however he feels and if you or i dont like it then we are free to shop elsewhere as so to speak.


      February 28, 2021 at 6:42 am

    • I don’t think anybody takes a blind bit of notice of Tigerlily/Cloverleaf. He/she/they are harmless and if he/she/they do no good they do no actual harm. And it’s interesting to get insight into the way that people with a tendency to believe strongly can succumb to falsity, just like the millions of Americans that hero worship false prophets, blatant liars and dyed-in-the-wool charlatans like Donald Trump, deny man-made global warming as a physical phenomenon, warn against science in general and anti-Covid vaccination in particular and so on and so forth.

      It seems to me, that such people are so poorly disposed towards authority and expertise that they latch and fasten on to diametrically opposite views to those espoused by authority and expertise, kind of a “enemy of my enemy is my friend” state of mind leaving them grasping at straws. Sad personally but totally harmless to everybody other than themselves provided they have no power over others or ability to foist their unfounded world view on unwilling others.

      However reading many a comment made by assorted extremists and fantasists I think do now have a better handle now on how a scumbucket like Donald Trump could have been elected president of the United States and why people are still wiling to support him in the full knowledge that he a completely dishonest and habitually shameless liar whose bizarre antics and conspicuous failures were responsible for handing the trifecta of American presidency, Senate and House of Representatives to his opponents on a platter, a flop which hasn’t happened to any first-time president since 1932, and making history as the only president impeached by his peer twice during his first and hopefully only term.


      February 28, 2021 at 10:04 am

      • I’m starting to think that Cloverlily and Tigerleaf are one and the same person, probably someone quite young, somewhere in the USA.


        February 28, 2021 at 11:51 am

      • At least The Donald didn’t start any wars while he was potus, unlike comrade xiden who just a few weeks into his presidency has started bombing Syria again.


        February 28, 2021 at 1:41 pm

      • @ Cloverleaf

        The Donald didn’t start any wars abroad, true, probably because he was too busy doing nothing while more Americans died of coronavirus, on their home soil, than died in the first, second and Vietnam wars put together! More people died in the United States of America, the world’s premier scientific nation, than died in any other country on earth and many of those unnecessary deaths were down to Trump lying about Covid-19 and discouraging American citizens from socially distancing themselves, wearing masks and doubling up on hygiene as in other countries mostly because such measures would affect the interests of his businesses many of which involved hospitality like golf courses and hotels etc.

        As far as causing American deaths is concerned Donald Trump outdid the efforts of the Kaiser, Hitler and Ho Chi Minh, during his four year term in office AND on American home soil to boot!

        Now as far as being deadly to Americans is concerned Trump take the cup!


        February 28, 2021 at 3:56 pm

      • @trev- I’ve noticed that too Trev. There is a similarity in the writing style, and complete stupidity, dressed up as some sort of genuine comment. It wouldn’t suprise me if Tigerlily / Cloverleaf were two cheeks of the same arse.

        Jeff Smith

        February 28, 2021 at 5:18 pm

  62. Sunak quoted as looking at freezing the £12’500 tax allowance for 3 years.

    I think its safe to say unless he intends to use welfare to top up wages as prices rise that he will do very little if anything to improve the amounts the qualifying public receive in benefits.
    If he does use it as a top up then we can all expect poverty to become the norm.


    February 28, 2021 at 6:47 am

  63. Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine directly connected to eugenics movement.



    February 28, 2021 at 10:30 am

    • Yep, Eugenics is the name of the game and our darling government are going to profit from it… Nice!


      February 28, 2021 at 11:10 am

    • But that’s a fake news conspiracy website aimed at paranoid lunatics of a Alt-Right/Libertarian persuasion.


      February 28, 2021 at 1:26 pm

  64. Any website that offers a different view to the corporate media’s ‘news’ gets slandered as conspiracy theorist, far right nazis it is pathetic really.


    February 28, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    • One only need think about 1984.


      February 28, 2021 at 2:20 pm

      • Wham!, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Howard Jones…99 Red Balloons…I remember it all too well.


        February 28, 2021 at 3:00 pm

  65. Disabled people being plunged into debt waiting months for DWP assessments, charity warns


    Blackpool DWP worker sacked after calling disabled benefits claimant a ‘lying b*tch’


    Two flagship DWP disability jobs schemes slated in front of MPs



    February 28, 2021 at 4:36 pm

  66. I don’t think Trump was responsible for 60 million deaths that Hitler caused during world war 2 timmy.


    February 28, 2021 at 5:41 pm

  67. Tory austerity is alive and well, and giving public services a good kicking.



    February 28, 2021 at 6:03 pm

    • That’s why we need a Socialist government.


      February 28, 2021 at 7:14 pm

  68. Eviction orders being issued despite UK government Covid pledge

    Eviction orders are being issued to tenants who have run up rent arrears because of the pandemic despite a promise by the housing secretary, Robert Jenrick, that “no renter who has lost income due to coronavirus will be forced out of their home”



    February 28, 2021 at 6:08 pm

    • But Socialism is a good thing, it’s what many of us want and have been fighting for all our lives, it’s the opposite of Tory Austerity and Privatization, an alternative to Conservative Neoliberalism. But somehow I don’t think the so-called “Great Reset” has anything to do with Socialism, more’s the pity, though sustainable development and responsible Capitalism may be a good thing too, particularly from an environmental point of view.


      February 28, 2021 at 7:11 pm

      • The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money ~ Margaret Thatcher.


        February 28, 2021 at 8:07 pm

      • No, it’s our money, so why give most of it away to the Shareholders of Private companies when certain industries can be owned by the State for the benefit of the people? If the workers own the means of production they get an equitable share of the profits. Thatcherism gives rise to people like Bill Gates and George Soros, the sort of people you hate!


        February 28, 2021 at 8:35 pm

  69. Man keeps receiving Universal Credit payments but does not ‘want or need them’

    This may happen to others. DO NOT SPEND IT.



    February 28, 2021 at 7:05 pm

  70. Labour unveils new ‘Jobs Promise’ as shadow chancellor fails to back calls to make Universal Credit boost permanent

    Removing universal credit, into what? they won’t say that either!!


    That’s labour for you!!

    Ms Dodds was attacked by the SNP over her comments. SNP Westminster Leader Ian Blackford claimed: “People will wonder what on earth is the point in the Labour Party if it won’t even oppose these devastating Tory austerity cuts, which would push millions into poverty and crisis


    February 28, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    • But Jon Reynolds has called for the £20 increase to UC to be kept

      ““Cutting Universal Credit by £20 a week – over £1,000 a year – will push children into poverty and leave out of work support is at its lowest level in decades at a time when unemployment is set to peak.

      “Rishi Sunak must take action to secure our economy now by cancelling his economically illiterate cut to Universal Credit.”


      “Labour is calling for the £20-a-week increase in UC to continue after the crisis is over, and to also be applied to legacy benefits like Jobseeker’s Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance.”


      Labour are in the process of developing a replacement for Universal Credit:

      “Labour is committed to developing a complete replacement for Universal Credit. We believe this to be essential to meeting our objectives of ending child poverty in the UK. This is a huge mission – and only one of several major policy challenges the shadow work and pensions team is working on – that will develop a modern social security system that offers real support to everyone”



      February 28, 2021 at 9:26 pm

    • every government training programme has failed for the last 20 years because using 3rd party providers for profit will never work as they only care about 1 thing money!

      employers want real completed qualifications and paid work experience and your cv must now be a exact match for the jobs you apply for.

      some jobs even want 5 years work references with no brakes dbs checks and even credit checks for some jobs.

      yet if you paid for a full time collage course out of your benefits to try and better your self the dwp will say if it is more than 16hrs per week you are not looking for work and no benefits.

      the governments would rather pay billions to these company’s to hide the unemployment figures and offer things like mindful sleeping and diy bath bomb courses when the fee from the course would buy over 1000l of bubble bath per person.

      all this restart programme is going to be is a copy of the wp where you are crammed in to a office to apply for jobs on computers non stop so they can track what you apply for so do not use any providers computers to apply for anything! and do not log in to any email accounts bank accounts pay pal or anything as it is all monitored same as the dwp.

      and if you do manage to find a job on your own they will then harass you non stop to get there job outcome payments that range from £3.500 – £13.500 if you get hi rate esa ect and the hardest to help/ bully.

      giving that money to the person that found the job on there own is the biggest intensive that you could give to anyone to find work and stay in employment long term.

      the dwp is never going to change you either fight for you rights or take a sanction beating what if they put you must jump off a cliff as a expectation are you going to do it?

      and if you dont do it and then get sanctioned for it will you take the hit and let them get away with it ?


      February 28, 2021 at 10:12 pm

      • Every Government/DWP scheme or course I’ve ever been on has been a complete and utter waste of time and public money. Absolute fucking horse shit from start to finish. When are we ever going to get a government that realizes that? Pay us our Benefits without any fuss and leave us alone. That’s all I ask.


        February 28, 2021 at 10:38 pm

  71. And even if Sunak does extend the £20 uplift for 6 months, it only just kicks the can down the road.
    Come October all the Universal Credit people are going to be in the same situation as before.
    If you look at it though £20 is less than £3 a day over the week. Who would want to transfer to Universal Credit for this ?

    George M

    February 28, 2021 at 10:49 pm

    • “The level of UK benefits paid in pensions, jobseeker’s allowance and incapacity benefit is “manifestly inadequate” because it falls below 40% of the median income of European states, according to the Council of Europe in Strasbourg”


      The £20 increase brings it up to almost the level it should have been at seven years ago. Still, it’s an extra grand a year and should have been paid to legacy Benefits too, not the two-tier Benefits system the Tories have created consisting of the deserving and undeserving poor. That’s what comes of voting Tory, in case anyone was still under any illusions.


      February 28, 2021 at 11:14 pm

  72. The New Economics Foundation says that 21.7 million people will not have a decent standard of living – even if the uplift is extended



    March 1, 2021 at 10:01 am

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