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Food Banks and Universal Credit.

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Queuing for a Soup Kitchen in Glasgow.

 

 

xclausx signals this.

When exactly did Food Banks become an established part of life in the UK?

In theory social security was meant to cover people’s basic needs, with enough money to get what you need to eat as a part of benefit levels. The welfare state is based on rights, a kind of universal insurance, but also a a minium protection for all,.

There are countries without a welfare state, and those with such a small cover for those in need that food provision is the principal last resort for the poor, working or not. ” In the US the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) is a federal nutrition program. Known previously as “food stamps,” SNAP benefits can help you stretch your food budget if you have a low income. SNAP (food stamps), D-SNAP, and WIC for women, infants, and children. “

That said, people have fallen through that net for a long time (dole is very limited, and can simply come to a complete end after a fixed time), soup kitchens, have been part of the US landscape for decades.

The idea is that people should succeed if they merit it. Real failures, ‘losers’ as they call then, should have to reply on the generosity, if they can get it,  of strangers. Or go to the gutter. If really genuinely unfortunate the kindness of charity is available,

The world’s first food bank was established in the US in 1967, and since then many thousands have been set up all over the world. In Europe, which until recently had little need for food banks due to extensive welfare systems, their numbers have grown rapidly since the 2006 and even faster since the global economic crisis.

In the UK, traditionally food hampers have been given out to the elderly and vulnerable members of communities at Harvest festivals and at Christmas but all year-round hunger has been a prominent issue since 2007 and has dramatically increased since 2011. Most, but not all, UK food banks are co-ordinated by The Trussell Trust – a Christian charity based in Salisbury which serves as the UK’s only food bank network. The Trussell Trust was established in 2000; in 2004 they only ran two food banks but as of August 2012 a massive 252 were being operated.

In the UK, a food bank is not a “soup kitchen”. Whilst the majority of food banks do give food directly to the hungry it is done by the issue of a voucher system which is issued from a third party. Soup kitchens can be accessed by the hungry without the intervention, assistance or referral of any professional body.

The History of Food Banks

Trump did this at the end of 2019,

Hundreds of thousands of Americans who rely on the federal food stamp program will lose their benefits under a new Trump administration rule that will tighten work requirements for recipients.

The move by the administration is the latest in its attempt to scale back the social safety net for low-income Americans. It is the first of three proposed rules targeting the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as Snap, to be finalized. The program feeds more than 36 million people.

The plan will limit states from exempting work-eligible adults from having to maintain steady employment in order to receive benefits.

Trump admirer (“Jacob Rees-Mogg MP says he would vote for Donald Trump” and Brexit fanatic Jacob Rees-Mogg, now Leader of the House of Commons said in 2019 that,

The voluntary support given to food banks is “rather uplifting” and “shows what a compassionate country we are”, Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has said.

He told LBC radio the only reason for the rise in their use was “that people know that they are there”.

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“To have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are,” he said.

“Inevitably, the state can’t do everything, so I think that there is good within food banks.

“The real reason for the rise in numbers is that people know that they are there and Labour deliberately didn’t tell them.”

Thérèse Coffey agrees,

Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey has described food banks as the “perfect way” to help the poor.

 

The Honourable Lady is right to praise volunteers at her local food bank who support vulnerable people in their area.  The Honourable Lady is right to praise volunteers at her local food bank who support vulnerable people in their area.

“Marrying the two is a perfect way to try to address the challenges that people face at difficult times in their lives.

“The Hon. Lady will be aware of the work that we have been trying to do with the Trussell Trust, and I am pleased to say that we will also be having a roundtable of independent food banks to understand how we can help them and their customers to move forwards.”

You have to say that if Universal Credit is such a success, why on earth do we need these providers? Do we want to a society, a Trump utopia, where the poor dutifully queue for food? What about rights and equality, the right to a minium decent living standard for all?

Trump has gone. His fellow national populists in the UK should be booted out..

But now this is what people are saying,

https://twitter.com/jrf_uk/status/1359108381710163969?s=20

Here is what Moggy is concerned about today:

 

 

Written by Andrew Coates

February 11, 2021 at 4:41 pm

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  1. Rees Mogg is completely wrong and clueless. People are referred to foodbanks by various agencies and organizations such as Local Welfare/Social Services, GPs, the CAB, etc. when they are flagged as needing help for a variety of reasons but often because of inadequacies in the Benefits system, whilst others may be in low paid work but not earning enough to make ends meet, some fall into poverty through illness, redundancy, the breakdown of relationships. The Tories deliberately shredded the Social Security safety net, leaving millions in poverty and in need of help. Foodbanks are a symptom of a failed State. Foodbanks help those who the State has abandoned.

    trev

    February 11, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    • Well said Trev, it’s a sad reflection on the state of things that these foodbanks even exist. They ought to call them Tory Banks, because they started this with their cruel austerity policies.

      Jeff Smith

      February 11, 2021 at 8:52 pm

      • Cruel austerity policies and *Welfare reforms*, which Miliband’s Labour abstained from voting against more’s the pity. Labour are now calling for Universal Credit to be scrapped (one of the biggest factors in foodbank use) so now at least we have a viable chance at the next election, though it’s not yet clear what Labour’s alternative to UC would be.

        trev

        February 11, 2021 at 8:59 pm

  2. Andrew Coates

    February 11, 2021 at 6:33 pm

  3. There’s only one solution; NEVER vote Tory under any circumstances whatsoever. And if anyone reading this DID vote Tory then hang your head in shame.

    trev

    February 11, 2021 at 7:49 pm

  4. trev

    February 11, 2021 at 9:04 pm

  5. And then the government, whose cruelty has caused all this suffering, have got the arrogance to talk about cutting their Universal Credit by £20 a week ! What is it going to take for the Tories to think of someone else but themselves for a change ? Not their bloody Eton cronies they can bung a few million to, but decent ordinary people who are so desperate for food that they will queue in the snow and the freezing cold.

    Jeff Smith

    February 11, 2021 at 9:05 pm

  6. Britain’s Covid unemployed: ‘I’m broke. I’m going to the food bank for handouts’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/03/britains-covid-unemployed-im-broke-im-going-to-the-food-bank-for-handouts

    trev

    February 11, 2021 at 9:07 pm

  7. […] Food Banks and Universal Credit. […]

  8. Extreme poverty blights even the lives of those who work

    “Destitution is affecting increasing numbers in the UK, with the pandemic, universal credit and austerity policies the main causes”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/09/extreme-poverty-blights-even-the-lives-of-those-who-work

    trev

    February 11, 2021 at 9:13 pm

  9. 16th December 2020

    Unicef to feed hungry children in UK for first time in 70-year history

    UN agency will help fund food parcels for those affected by coronavirus crisis in Southwark, south London

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/16/unicef-feed-hungry-children-uk-first-time-history

    Blame the Tories, not Unicef, for child poverty

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/20/blame-the-tories-not-unicef-for-child-poverty

    trev

    February 11, 2021 at 9:17 pm

  10. Reblogged this on Tory Britain! .

    A6er

    February 11, 2021 at 10:09 pm

  11. It’s a warning to others.

    There were similar scenes in London and Liverpool, a few days before when the Mirror spent several hours talking to rough sleepers at the capital’s busiest street kitchen.

    But volunteers are warning that the true scale of the homelessness problem is a ticking time bomb set to explode when lockdown ends.

    The end of the Government’s eviction ban, combined with an expected wave of redundancies and no uplift in Universal Credit, mean many more could soon find themselves with nowhere to live.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fury-hundreds-homeless-people-left-23485800

    xclausx

    February 11, 2021 at 11:43 pm

    • And lots of Sanctions available for those claiming Benefits. Britain is going to resemble the Great Depression of 1929/30. Homelessness, redundancies, begging, soup kitchens, foodbanks, Sanctions, debt, arrears, suicides, low-paid sweatshop agency work and/or unpaid Workfare.

      trev

      February 12, 2021 at 7:36 am

  12. Not surprisingly, the Big Issue have also reported this story:

    ‘Devastating’ photo of Glasgow food queue shows ‘need for action’

    https://www.bigissue.com/latest/devastating-photo-of-glasgow-food-queue-shows-need-for-action/

    trev

    February 12, 2021 at 7:47 am

  13. How more stupid could it be than Jobcentres hounding the unemployed about jobsearch during a national lockdown? Seriously? I mean that must take the biscuit surely?

    Tim

    February 12, 2021 at 9:11 am

    • They feel the need to keep you on your toes, needle you to keep you on edge, induce that underlying feeling of anxiety, threat, and sense of impending doom in the back of your mind, lest you become content, complacent and happy.

      trev

      February 12, 2021 at 3:07 pm

      • @trev – Yes, and their suspicion that people have quietly given up jobsearching during this pandemic. And that, shock horror ! You might be getting your benefits for doing nothing.

        Jeff Smith

        February 12, 2021 at 5:02 pm

  14. Secret report casts doubt on DWP’s ‘no duty of care’ claim

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has been unable to explain why its secretary of state continues to insist that it has no legal “duty of care” to disabled benefit claimants, when one of its own secret reports states clearly that it does.

    Work and pensions secretary Therese Coffey has repeatedly told MPs that her department does not have a legal duty to “safeguard” its claimants, and that such tasks are instead the responsibility of local agencies such as social services and doctors’ surgeries.

    https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/secret-report-casts-doubt-on-dwps-no-duty-of-care-claim/

    superted

    February 12, 2021 at 2:25 pm

  15. Family who were left penniless by Universal Credit error told to ‘try foodbank instead’

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/universal-credit-family-left-penniless-23483273

    superted

    February 12, 2021 at 2:26 pm

  16. UK Column News 12 February 2021.

    Cloverleaf

    February 12, 2021 at 4:23 pm

    • It’s funny how the same people who are in favour of polluting the air are often also the ones who believe in “chem trails”. The people who believe that there is a secret cabal of evil Capitalists plotting against us also want to let Capitalism off the hook and give it a free reign completely unregulated not only to make vast profits but to destroy the environment in the process.

      trev

      February 12, 2021 at 5:57 pm

  17. Now you know what to do.

    xclausx

    February 12, 2021 at 5:15 pm

  18. ‘ Here’s an equation, and a rather distressing one at that: N = R* × fP × ne × f1 × fi × fc × L. It’s the Drake equation, and it describes the number of alien civilizations in our galaxy with whom we might be able to communicate. Its terms correspond to values such as the fraction of stars with planets, the fraction of planets on which life could emerge, the fraction of planets that can support intelligent life, and so on. Using conservative estimates, the minimum result of this equation is 20. There ought to be 20 intelligent alien civilizations in the Milky Way that we can contact and who can contact us. But there aren’t any ? ‘. Big Think

    Jeff Smith

    February 12, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    • Life on earth is quite enough to be going on with for the time being.

      trev

      February 12, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    • The Drake equation is a bit of fun but scientifically meaningless. Besides, until intelligent life is discovered on Earth why bother trying to calculate the probabilistic likelihood of it elsewhere?

      Norrin Radd

      February 12, 2021 at 6:10 pm

  19. WOW Jeff Smith that is down right bloody fascinating, I didn’t realise you were a conspiracy theorist too 👽.

    Cloverleaf

    February 12, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    • Maybe Valiant Thor will return and force the Governments to listen this time.

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 6:58 pm

      • The Conservatives will just get Loki to sabotage his attempt.

        George M

        February 13, 2021 at 11:05 pm

      • Indrid Cold would sort her out.

        trev

        February 13, 2021 at 11:11 pm

  20. 60% of 2020 dead were disabled ♿ and their carers only got £64 a week. A crying shame.

    https://bUQnAOWVqDQ

    Cloverleaf

    February 12, 2021 at 6:07 pm

  21. Cloverleaf

    February 12, 2021 at 6:16 pm

    • Why does Bellend try to use this information to criticize the Left? Disability Rights have been trampled on by the Tories for the last decade, they are the ones in power, i.e. the Rightwing!

      trev

      February 12, 2021 at 7:32 pm

  22. Andrew Coates

    February 12, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    • 10 reasons why Universal Credit should be stopped

      1.Unbearably long waits for claimants to receive money

      2.People can only apply for Universal Credit online making it inaccessible for many

      3.Not enough help for claimants when the system fails them

      4.Rent paid directly to claimants instead of Landlords causing people to get into arrears and even to lose their homes

      5.Letting agents are already refusing to rent to anyone claiming Universal Credit

      6.Cruel sanctions for both in-work and out-of-work claimants

      7.Payments only go to one named member of a household

      8.Universal Credit takes 63p in every £1 people earn

      9.Universal Credit leaves many working families much worse off than the old system

      10.People in part-time work could be forced to give up work that suits their disability or family life in order to take up worse paid full-time work or risk sanctions

      https://unitetheunion.org/campaigns/stop-universal-credit/

      trev

      February 12, 2021 at 10:29 pm

      • you can make a uc claim over the phone its called a non digital relationship. but they dont want anyone to know this.

        Click to access Non_digital_relationships_v1.0.pdf

        with a digital uc claim the claimant commitment is on line and if it is changed and not accepted in 7 days it is end of claim.

        they also want you to use the online journal for work search proof and to be uploaded this can never be removed!

        1 sanction doubt could mean you cant pay for the internet and thus cant access the online claim to provide work search and get more sanctions.

        you are stitched up from day one you enter a claim online because you chose that way to do it!

        and if you do make a uc claim like this you can never give them a email address as then could be linked to a digital account because that’s what they want!.

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        this is your personnel data they can not demand you give it to them to keep on file all they can do is give you a md to show you have them.

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        this is funny i did give sam a copy of my cv and left it there she did note on the lms it was provided and then dumped me to another wc.

        that then tried to sanction me for failing to provide my cv because sam put it in the bin and never coped it in to the lms but noted it was seen.

        never seen sam again pmsl 😉

        superted

        February 12, 2021 at 10:58 pm

    • This is precisely what happens when humans dont interpret and question what the data says.

      DWP simply only use the RTI (REAL TIME TAX SYSTEM) as a financial deduction tool when infact the data is often a lot more complex than mere gross and net outcomes.

      For instance if you go through a period of being underpaid while your UC entitlement outcome means you receive no benefit at the time only to receive it as a payment later well after the fact when your work income is zero, DWP WILL TREAT THIS as a recent wage and DEDUCT your benefit accordingly.

      DWP only look at payments based on date the payment was made when infact in this example it should not count at all for the period they calculated it for as its owed monies from a previous benefit calculated month/week you would have received no benefit anyway.

      Holiday entitlement (time and money), late/incorrect SSP, employer rebated overpaid tax and NI contributions and other areas are also of grave concern when we consider how DWP treat them as.

      Certain claimants dependent on circumstance are losing out on benefit amounts they are entitled to. Certain claimants are losing out on regulated rest/recuperative time they have rightly earned in accordance with the law because it effects their right to benefits.

      DWP and government alike always bang on about how everyone’s needs/requirements are different, how UC is tailored to the individual yet time and again we see this consistent blanket approach for all claimants.

      This governments idea of how individuality in welfare should work is about labelled boxes and which 1 you fit in rather than the complex web where its not impossible for all the boxes to apply.

      Whats really disheartening about the article you highlight Andrew is that a simple phone call to the claimants employer/payroll department prior to calculation would have prevented the suffering this family went through and the uncompensated time spent getting it corrected.

      Incase any is wondering what do you mean by “uncompensated time spent”, if this was you taking an employer to tribunal, you could claim costs (billing per hour) for preparing the case ontop of your claimed loss.

      Perhaps if DWP had to pay this ontop instead of just what they owe, they may pay a bit more attention and make fewer mistakes.

      Doug

      February 13, 2021 at 6:16 am

  23. well i got my new cc in the post and the 35hr job search has gone! it is also not signed buy the wc so im not signing it either.

    waste of time!

    superted

    February 13, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    • Jobcentres will prob be open sooner than you think!

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/covid-tier-system-will-axed-23493328

      xclausx

      February 13, 2021 at 2:02 pm

      • If we are winning the battle against Covid that is good news to be celebrated but I am absolutely dreading going back to the Jobcentre and being subjected to the scrutiny, harassment and bullying of over-zealous jumped-up Dole Clerks every two weeks, and intimidated by the G4SS guards, and being sent on ridiculous back-to-work courses, scams, and schemes, and having to waste my time doing pointless jobsearch for the sake of it just to avoid the ever-present threat of being Sanctioned. Fuck the Tories, fuck the DWP and fuck the Jobcentre. May it’s walls crumble and may I live to tell.

        trev

        February 13, 2021 at 3:00 pm

  24. I doubt if we will be going back to the cheka anytime soon, if they do open businesses it won’t last long, they’ll say something like c-19 has mutated again or there is another varient and lock the country down again.

    Cloverleaf

    February 13, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    • Boris and Hammond seem to be giving up, saying we’ll just have to live with Covid like the flu, and talking about opening pubs in April, people going on hols in Summer. Wishful thinking? There might be spikes of infection of mutant variants, though on the other hand most people will have been vaccinated so I don’t know. I think we’ll be back in the Jobcentre facing fortnightly interrogations by Autumn perhaps. Until the next viral pandemic occurs, which is pretty inevitable because nothing has changed, wet markets still exist, deforestation continues, smuggling and killing endangered species continues unabated, people still eating ‘bush meat’, Mother Nature will continue to fight back.

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 6:04 pm

  25. this is what is on my new cc.

    x i will use job sites and employer websites to find and apply for jobs i can do

    x i will contact employers directly to ask about and apply for any jobs i can do.

    xi will check newspaper job vacancy sections and apply to those jobs i can do.

    x i will respond promptly to contacts and notifications from employers and job sites.

    x i will ensure i have a up to date cv that i can tailor for jobs i apply for.

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    superted

    February 13, 2021 at 6:03 pm

    • Did they word it for you or ask for your input? If they just reel off that spiel to me and ask me to agree that’s fair enough I suppose.

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 6:08 pm

      • did not ask me anything that was already on the lms and as you can see nothing is any different from cc from years ago.

        problem is it is not signed so it does not mean anything as im not going to sign it lol.

        its all about conditionality and believing there bullshit like who looks in a paper for jobs these days pmsl.

        they wont get me on my work search and they cant send me to any providers so there screwed

        i got the carrot and the stick these days they have no power over me and never will.

        superted

        February 13, 2021 at 6:27 pm

      • You’re right about newspapers! My local rag, like many others, is owned by the Trinity Mirror group and not even printed in the town anymore. It’s now a tabloid, with no job ads, but years ago was the primary source for finding jobs, it was broadsheet and carried all the local job ads every Thursday, several pages of job adverts that took quite a while to read through. That was back in the 70s/80s and the paper was printed in town. How times have changed.

        trev

        February 13, 2021 at 6:56 pm

      • Trev

        I does make me laugh that the process is supposed to be one of negotiation yet never is. You would think they would have changed the newspaper requirement to something like walking about asking employers ” got a job mate”.
        Chances are because they cant police that without considerable effort and allot a specific time to such an activity, is the reason why we dont see it.

        Challenge it trev, ask what about walking about instead of searching newspapers that nolonger display any meaningful amount of job adverts and see what they say as the CC can be changed at any time.

        Doug

        February 14, 2021 at 8:43 am

      • I do enough walking about without committing myself to do more! I’d rather pretend to look at non-existent job adverts in non-existent papers if it keeps them happy.

        trev

        February 14, 2021 at 12:18 pm

    • Si Vis Pacem Parabellum….. ( If you want peace, prepare for war ).

      Jeff Smith

      February 13, 2021 at 11:20 pm

  26. How many MP’s give food to the food banks None.

    What a shameful nation the politicians are making of the UK saying we don’t need food banks. Well of course MP’s you don’t need food banks but the rising need for them need food. MP’s expenses are payed for by the Tax Payer you hypocrites.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 13, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    • Tory MPs are quite happy with the situation, they think foodbanks are the best thing since sliced bread and represent a great alternative to a functioning Social Security system. They do not accept that the State has any Duty of Care to its citizens. But who do they expect to produce the goods? to slave in the fields and factories? or to go fight in wars? That’s right, the Workers!

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 7:04 pm

      • There are happy losing voters, they are happy it is all going wrong, they are happy they are or think they are untouchable with starvation on the land as long as they keep the Bully Don Club going except this time the tax payer & their voters pay for it all.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 13, 2021 at 7:07 pm

  27. Jacob Rees Moog is thick as shit coming out with so called big words of bullshit such as failure.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 13, 2021 at 7:00 pm

  28. Matt Hanky Hancock Covid 19 is not like the flu you idiot.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 13, 2021 at 7:02 pm

  29. Boris Johnson’s hair is in such a mess because he is going bald.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 13, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    • Cover Up Boris.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 13, 2021 at 7:04 pm

      • Head down the toilet time again at the Bully Don Club Again babbble gurrgal bbbbbaaabbbbbb blabbbbberrrring

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 13, 2021 at 7:11 pm

      • Was that before he said that inequality is essential and greed is good?

        “I don’t believe that economic equality is possible; indeed some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity.”
        Boris Johnson, 2013

        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/27/boris-johnson-thatcher-greed-good

        And some of you voted for the twat!

        trev

        February 13, 2021 at 8:29 pm

  30. Matt Hanky Hancock is going on holiday to prison for High Treason of facts.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 13, 2021 at 7:12 pm

    • He’s itching to go on his jollies, got his sun cream and bucket & spade packed and everything.

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 7:41 pm

  31. Universal Credit DWP: Change and tax hikes – what to expect from the 2021 Budget

    The Chancellor reportedly warned MPs he would have to increase fuel duty by 5p per litre to pay for the Universal Credit uplift.

    https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/universal-credit-dwp-budget-2021-5001378

    superted

    February 13, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    • You can bet he won’t be giving anything extra to JSA/ESA claimants, whom are very obviously seen as being the ‘undeserving poor’ by multi-Millionaire Tories. Turns out the ‘new normal’ is no different to the old normal.

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 10:13 pm

      • but there wont be any cars that use fuel in 2030 as will all be electric pmsl and by then we will have pre payment meters to use or own toilets like smart meters to measure the output and charge more for bigger loads based on the waight of the rider.

        Rose West has ‘bad reaction’ to coronavirus vaccine

        A source said Rose West is now ‘hugely overweight’, after feasting on cakes behind bars, and is at greater risk of more severe Covid-19 if she catches it.

        err how do you get that fat in prison ?

        Coronavirus cases in prisons are much higher than in the outside population, with prisoners stuck in their cells all day and social distancing made more challenging.

        prisons have cells with big metal doors with locks seems pretty easy to me and not seen one report of mass prisoner deaths.

        but the dwp can and will make you homeless and put you on the streets freezing to death and use food banks but that’s fine and ppl in prison cost 40k per year per person paid to a private company for profit!

        if he removes to £20 up lift there is going to be total chaos in the jcp and ppl are going to get hurt!

        superted

        February 13, 2021 at 10:51 pm

      • I suppose lack of exercise might lead to weight gain in prison, but not generally morbid obesity. Rose West is in New Hall not far from me.

        trev

        February 13, 2021 at 11:05 pm

      • “This prison provides full and part-time education courses for prisoners in areas such as business administration, food hygiene, literacy, numeracy and information technology, NVQ Hairdressing, BTEC and Art. New Hall has workshops where inmates can be given experience of assembly work, light textile work, catering and gardening. Employment and careers advice, Jobcentre Plus and Connexions are also available”

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_New_Hall

        trev

        February 13, 2021 at 11:15 pm

      • i have been in Fred west house when i was a kid as went to school with her nephew lol.

        had to stash all the stuff we nicked from toys r us and was the main reason bags in store was banned forever.

        6-7 round trips and every item on the shelf was gone and he done that his hole life his criminal record wont fit on a full bog roll.

        if you left him in your house on his own in 30mins he would clear it out i shit you not i know so many ppl that want to kill him it is unreal.

        he has ripped of so many drug dealers the only reason he has not been killed inside is because he is in the nonce wing and protected from all the dealers he has ripped of in the past.

        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4908730/steven-letts-nephew-rose-west-rapist-prison/

        and he got 4 more years on top of that for aggravated burglary cat 2 as had weapons.

        superted

        February 13, 2021 at 11:27 pm

  32. BTW in case you were wondering why your Tesco delivery didn’t arrive…

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/tesco-delivery-van-left-stranded-19833072

    trev

    February 13, 2021 at 10:17 pm

  33. The DWP don’t seem to realise, or care, that they are facing the biggest employment disaster in decades.
    It has been said, that 9 million extra. jobs are at risk if the government close the furlough scheme.
    We still haven’t seen the full effect of Brexit on unemployment. And yet the DWP are carrying on as if it is business as usual. No-one over 60 should now be signing, early access to pensions to clear the unemployment lists is an essential. And it’s no good just hiding millions of the unemployed in Universal Credit, and pretending everything is under control.

    Jeff Smith

    February 13, 2021 at 11:16 pm

    • And the worrying thing is that the Tories are not generally well known for doing the right thing and being socially responsible. They are ensconced in their ivory towers, isolated from reality by their warped ideology and their wealth, living in a sort of parallel universe far removed from the world the rest of us are forced to occupy. They live in a world where greed is good, inequality is essential, where the existence of foodbanks is a perfect solution and poor people are what you step over on the way to the opera. And still people vote for these psychopaths.

      trev

      February 13, 2021 at 11:49 pm

    • Jeff Smith

      I suspect from what we have all witnessed thus far that the gig economy is likely to grow for a while to come yet.

      Doug

      February 14, 2021 at 8:50 am

      • The gig economy is what Universal Credit was really designed for, in the absence of sufficient secure long-term employment and the demise of traditional industry. We’ll all end up meeting ourselves coming backwards whilst rushing around like the proverbial blue-arsed fly trying to fit in two or three part-time jobs in one day; cleaning a pub in a morning, flipping burgers at lunchtime, cleaning offices in the evening, al a bus ride apart, for minimum wage. At least on JSA they can’t force you to apply for part time work, so if you are on JSA best to stay on it, don’t do anything that would result in a change to UC.

        trev

        February 14, 2021 at 12:35 pm

      • Damian Green former Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and connoisseur of on-the-job pornography was “excited” by and all for the GIG economy.

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dwp-gig-economy-damian-green-speech-holiday-minimum-wage-sick-pay-hours-a7421071.html

        We shall not see his like again… hopefully!

        Tim

        February 14, 2021 at 3:28 pm

  34. The in fighting in the Tory party does not help only Tory MP’s egos. One Tory says something & another Tory says the opposite. War within the Tory Party. Come on idiots it is not about the Tory party Care Of Duty is.

    The only thing that has gone right is the vaccines with the scientists & the NHS with the Tories getting the credit & fucking up the good work that has been done.

    Tory failure is the biggest killer.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 14, 2021 at 12:17 pm

  35. Disability Unit accused of ‘shameful manipulation’ over disability strategy note

    By John Pring on 11th February 2021 DNS

    The government has been accused of a “shameful manipulation of reality”, after its Disability Unit sent out desperate emails to its regional disability networks, begging for positive accounts of how its policies have improved disabled people’s lives.

    The note was sent out by the government’s Disability Unit to the chairs of its nine regional stakeholder networks across England.

    One leading disabled campaigner said this week that the gambit “smacks of desperation”.

    The government’s note asks the network chairs: “We are looking for disabled people who would be willing to write up to 100 words about how they have achieved their aspirations, and if there has been a government policy that has supported them to do so.”

    It was sent out as this week’s 13 February deadline approaches for disabled people around the country to respond to the government’s national disability survey if they want their response to influence this spring’s planned disability strategy.

    Professor Peter Beresford, co-chair of the disabled people’s and service-user network Shaping Our Lives, said the note sent to the network chairs was “a shameful manipulation of reality”.

    He said: “Only this government could choose a time when disproportionate numbers of disabled people are dying as a result of its disastrous handling of the COVID-19 pandemic to ask disabled people to send in accounts of their successes to bolster its own appalling record on disability issues.

    “Disabled people have faced rising barriers and challenges under this government, not least because of its welfare reform programme and cuts in social care and other services.

    “But still, as we see from what we hear from members of Shaping Our Lives, even against these odds, we are still achieving, we are still contributing. But that’s too often in spite of government policy.

    “If this government wants the truth then let it commission disabled people to carry out independent research on trends in our life chances.”

    Mark Harrison, from the Reclaiming Our Futures Alliance (ROFA), said the Disability Unit’s note “smacks of desperation”.

    He said: “The fact that they are writing to the chairs of the networks asking for good news stories suggests to me that the feedback coming from surveys that are being filled out is not what the government wants to hear.

    “They are putting a PR gloss on 10 years of grave and systematic violations of disabled people’s rights and retrogression against most of the articles of the UN convention [on the rights of disabled people].”

    Fazilet Hadi, head of policy for Disability Rights UK (DR UK), said she was “very concerned” about the note sent to the networks.

    She said: “I’m concerned as a strategy isn’t about promoting good news stories, it’s about setting a new ambitious direction.

    “Requesting positive stories hints that the strategy isn’t going to be focused on transformational change.

    “The disability strategy should be focusing on the transformation of society, so that disabled people can live as equal citizens.

    “Whilst an ambitious strategy should be built on whatever positives currently exist, the need for change is massive and has been underlined by the inequalities experienced by disabled people during the coronavirus crisis.

    “We need a new legislative framework, funding for disabled people’s organisations, major reforms to social security and social care. These are the areas that the Disability Unit should be asking about.”

    Lynne Turnbull, chair of the north-west regional stakeholder network and chief executive of the disabled people’s organisation Disability Positive, confirmed she was among network chairs who received the note from the Disability Unit.

    She said it would not be appropriate for her to comment on the note, as chair of the regional network, but she said her organisation was happy to do so.

    Jessica Tait, policy and communications manager for Disability Positive (formerly Cheshire Centre for Independent living), said: “As well as the request for stories being short notice, we are concerned that featuring these in the strategy may gloss over the less than positive experiences many disabled people have had with government schemes such as Access to Work.

    “Clearly the strategy will recognise that government has the power to make things better for disabled people, but it shouldn’t seek to overstate the government’s previous successes, as this risks undermining the reason a national strategy is so needed.”

    The government’s Disability Unit had not responded to a request to comment by noon today (Thursday).

    Turnbull said her network has carried out research with nearly 400 disabled people in the north-west and had submitted it to the government to feed into its disability strategy, along with 34 recommendations.

    She said that four key themes stood out as important to disabled people in the north-west.

    One was the importance of the availability of advocacy to all disabled people who need it, for example to help them with problems with education, health and social care, benefits, housing and the justice system.

    Another was to ensure the government increased funding for health and social care.

    The third theme was the importance of a benefits system which was “based on need, fully supports the right to live an independent life and supports the idea that a person is disabled by a world that doesn’t meet their needs, not by their condition”, and which provides enough money for a person “to live a full life”.

    The final theme was to ensure that “all government information and communication is in plain English, so that it is easy to understand, with easy read, British Sign Language, large print, audio, and braille available if needed”, as well as legal protection for British Sign Language “as a distinct language of the UK, and with an associated culture”.

    Meanwhile, ROFA, Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) and Inclusion London confirmed this week that they were backing a legal challenge to the survey, and its impact on the strategy, which is being brought by four disabled people.

    They say there has been a lack of meaningful engagement with disabled people’s organisations, and disabled people have not been given long enough to respond to the survey if they want to influence the strategy with their answers.

    A DPAC spokesperson said that having any future disability strategy drawn up from the survey results “would be a disaster for disabled people”.

    She added: “Whole groups of disabled people like those living in residential care homes were just ignored and access for people with a learning difficulty, particularly during a pandemic, was utterly unacceptable.”

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 14, 2021 at 12:20 pm

    • The Tory Disability Unit is now begging to stay out of Human Rights Abuses !!!

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 14, 2021 at 12:21 pm

      • I have reached my aspirations with the help of the Tory party with DWP sanctions, hunger, homelessness & suicide. I would not have aspirations without the help of the Tory party & the help of the disability Unit great work in State Sponsored Murder.

        All done in 44 words.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 14, 2021 at 12:25 pm

      • To influence this spring’s planned disability strategy which is not going to happen.

        Justin Tomlinson you have always been useless even the first time you was Disability Minister & have never recovered from being treated like shit by the disabled. Justin you thing revenge is sweet 2nd time around.

        I would like to report Justin Tomlinson for Disability Hate Crime.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 14, 2021 at 12:29 pm

  36. As you say Trev, it’s all about the gig economy. But the DWP do their best to hide the reality of Universal Credit. That was always one of its fundamental changes from the JSA system. To force claimants to do part-time and zero-hours work. As Duncan Smith said at the time, ”It’s not an easy life anymore, chum.”
    Someone I know was transferred to Universal Credit in 2019. So far he has had just a few weeks temporary work at a local amusement park. And a week’s work at the local recycling plant. This was the worst, the smell unbelievably bad. No proper PPE. He had to watch two of the other guys leave the line, and run behind a nearby outbuilding. Where they could be heard vomiting copiously against the wall.

    Jeff Smith

    February 14, 2021 at 1:04 pm

    • That Recycling job was constantly being advertised in my area pre-Covid but I think they must be sending it all to landfill at the moment because that job hasn’t been advertised for a year. It used to say “must have strong stomach” and said that if you lasted more than 12 weeks you got a pay rise, and like I say it was permanently advertised by two different agencies. Hours were 7.00 – 5.00 but could be 3, 4, or 5 days a week according to workload. It seemed obvious that no one stuck it for long.

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 1:21 pm

      • This is the quality of so much Universal Credit ‘work’. A couple of bad experiences like this, and that night job in the local petrol station starts to look good. Just what the DWP want.

        Jeff Smith

        February 14, 2021 at 1:44 pm

      • Thing is I have applied for that night job in the local petrol station more than once and didn’t even get a reply! If I do eventually end up on UC I might apply for the Recycling job because there is at least the chances of only working 3 or 4 days a week as bad as the job is, and it was about £10 p/h, plus it’s a 15 minute walk from my home so no commuting involved and no travel costs, just a bum job.

        trev

        February 14, 2021 at 1:52 pm

      • Seven in the morning to five at night is a pretty long day. Don’t know why “strong stomach” came into it. I worked in a SUEZ recycling depot once where you don’t do much more than direct visitors to the right places to dump various kinds of waste, make sure they aren’t dumping the wrong things in the wrong bins, or dumping items forbidden from being dumped, like ceramic tiles for instance! Periodically, you then have to supervise and help load full skips onto lorries, to take them away for recycling, and replace the spaces left with empty skips using cranes, hawsers and machines.

        Pretty easy really.

        On the downside you are outdoors for the duration, in ALL weathers, so need to be a hardy soul.

        This was a centre open to the public not one used industrially which might have a lot of nasty waste to get rid of, e.g., hospital waste or possibly hazardous or toxic things which need to be handled carefully. Before applying for the job might be an idea to visit the centre, if you can, see what it’s like and work out what they are about before committing yourself. When it’s blowing a gale, raining, sleeting, snowing or roasting hot in summer a ten hour day, even with regular breaks, can feel like a very, very long time indeed.

        Tim

        February 14, 2021 at 3:21 pm

      • Yes 7-5 would be a bloody long day for me, done that and more 30+ years ago, but I mightn’t be guaranteed to even get that job now as they would probably want 20 yr old lads rather guys in the 60s. The strong stomach bit is because of the stench as it consists of standing at a conveyor belt hand-picking domestic recyclable waste materials as they go by, and many of the brain-dead general public put all manner of incorrect items in their recycling bins, from shitty nappies and bags of dog shit to broken glass and junkie needles and the odd dead cat/rat, etc. It was described by one agency as being “not for the faint hearted”! I’ve walked passed the place and it stinks to high heaven.

        trev

        February 14, 2021 at 3:34 pm

      • I’d give that one a miss personally and would advise you to consider doing so too. Sounds awful. Definitely something to avoid I reckon.

        Tim

        February 14, 2021 at 3:45 pm

  37. xclausx

    February 14, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    • There’s been a lot of cronyism and ‘chumocracy’ going on throughout this pandemic, greedy people in top positions never miss a chance to abuse their power to make a fast buck, but that’s still no reason not to have the vaccination in my opinion.

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 2:14 pm

      • @trev – Of course the vaccination is worth having Trev. It might not stop someone catching the virus, but any of the vaccines should reduce the severity of infection. It’s never pleasant to be ill, but much better to be at home for a couple of weeks feeling sick, than rushed by ambulance into hospital, and put on ventilation. And then the possible problems of long-Covid symptoms to follow.

        Jeff Smith

        February 14, 2021 at 3:15 pm

      • I would have the vaccination, any of the approved vaccinations, right now if I could. Can’t be soon enough for me. Any protection is better than no protection in my opinion and, as far as I am aware, three weeks after being vaccinated you have a 65% to 90%+ chance of not being seriously affected by coronavirus even if you contract it which sounds good to me!

        Tim

        February 14, 2021 at 3:24 pm

  38. UK government fails to publish details of £4bn Covid contracts with private firms

    The government has failed to publish any information about £4bn of Covid-related contracts awarded to private companies, in what appears to be a continuing breach of UK law.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/09/uk-government-fails-to-publish-details-of-4bn-covid-contracts-with-private-firms

    superted

    February 14, 2021 at 3:02 pm

    • Tories with their hands in the til, jobs for the boys, looking after their Oxford chums and old Etonians, and relatives and business mates, you scratch my back, Masonic handshakes, etc. Same old story, same as it ever was. Look after the rich and kick the poor.

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 3:24 pm

  39. Don’t you mean kill the poor trev, that’s what the bastards are doing they are literally getting away with murder.

    Cloverleaf

    February 14, 2021 at 3:51 pm

  40. How about digging a tunnel to the Isle Of Wight Boris !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 14, 2021 at 4:53 pm

  41. DWP uses excessive surveillance on suspected fraudsters, report finds

    Claimants are tailed, identified on CCTV and their social media monitored, Privacy International finds

    “Suspected benefit fraudsters in the UK are being subjected to excessive surveillance techniques such as being tailed by government officers or identified in CCTV footage, according to a report.

    It also found that companies from bingo clubs to the BBC, estate agents and the NHS can be asked to provide information on people who may be under investigation.

    Privacy International analysed a 995-page document that is given as guidance to staff at the Department for Work and Pensions surveillance teams, which explores the lengths that are taken to check whether someone is fraudulently claiming benefits.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/14/dwp-excessive-surveillance-on-suspected-fraudsters-privacy-international

    Andrew Coates

    February 14, 2021 at 5:44 pm

  42. No jab no food.

    Cloverleaf

    February 14, 2021 at 5:58 pm

    • I got to about 4 mins. and I can’t listen to any more of this whining and whinging. Just get yourself vaccinated and have done with it.

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    • Panorama – Vaccines – The Disinformation War

      Marianna Spring looks at the scare tactics of anti-vaxxers, revealing the scale of a social media blitz that has targeted vulnerable people and is now reaching younger generations yet to be called for their vaccination. The programme witnesses the reaction of a test group exposed to one anti-vax video, all under the watchful eye of one of the UK’s most respected doctors. Will they be influenced by disinformation or will their plans to be vaccinated remain unchanged?

      Category: News/Current Affairs

      BBC One London
      7:35pm-8:05pm (30 minutes) Mon 15 Feb

      https://www.tvguide.co.uk/m-detail/4054801/41992540/panorama

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 7:04 pm

  43. How are you feeling after the AstraZeneca jab, did you have any side effects? Sorry for being nosy but I had to ask.

    Cloverleaf

    February 14, 2021 at 8:41 pm

    • I’ve been fine, no after effects whatsoever, some other people I know said they felt rough the next day, ranging from a ‘hangover’ like feeling to chills, headache, nausea, but all were ok within a day. I didn’t experience anything other than a aching arm.

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 8:46 pm

    • More than 15,000,000 people in the UK now have been vaccinated against coronavirus, most of them in the most vulnerable groups. If the vaccinations, any of them, weren’t safe hundreds of thousands of these people would have dropped like flies by now. The vaccinations ARE safe, much safer in fact than most over the counter medicines freely available at any chemist’s shop.

      Tim

      February 15, 2021 at 7:55 am

  44. Good I’m glad I was worried about you.

    Cloverleaf

    February 14, 2021 at 9:04 pm

    • Well thanks but no need to worry, and I wouldn’t be concerned about having the vaccine unless you have some serious allergies but they ask you a few questions about stuff like that prior to giving you the jab, so seriously don’t worry and get the jab when they offer it you. Just thought, instead of using sports centres and stadiums etc. they could have made use of the Jobcentres, just rename them Jabcentres!

      trev

      February 14, 2021 at 9:39 pm

  45. @superted – Superted, if you’ve been offered the jab already under 40yrs old, then there must be a very good medical reason for this. Are you sure you don’t want to think again, and get it ? Just to be on the safe side ?

    Jeff Smith

    February 14, 2021 at 11:39 pm

    • DSC_0019

      when i was in hospital all they did is do blood tests and pump more in to me after 3 days i said fook this and went home as had to sign on lol i spent more time out side smoking rollups 😉

      i then went back as needed more blood transfusions and 6 b12 injections over 3 months i think and never heard anything after that.

      and i was told if i left the hospital and got a infection i would die yet 2 ppl have ran me over and its not happened yet pmsl.

      superted

      February 15, 2021 at 12:20 am

  46. Andrew Coates

    February 15, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    • Ronnie
      @Ronnie69383733
      ·
      4h
      Replying to
      @DWP
      And sell your soul to the devil 😈

      superted

      February 15, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    • “””Our aim is to create an environment where everyone feels supported to be their best. DWP strives to be a wholly inclusive organisation and we also pride ourselves on being a Disability Confident Leader. We wholeheartedly commit to the Civil Service ambition to be the most inclusive employer in the UK, we welcome and encourage applications for our Work Coach vacancies from all people from a wide range of backgrounds to help DWP become more representative of the communities we serve.”””

      So no jobs for disabled people to be Work Roaches then !!! Just Disability Confident has already been a failure 4 times, now for the 5th failure.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 15, 2021 at 6:01 pm

  47. They just can’t give it up the DWP can they ? It’s like watching the deluded members of some sort of cult.
    This mega-disaster of unemployment needs more constructive thinking, than simply recruiting an army of Work Coaches to supervise and punish claimants.
    But it shows once again, the limited two-dimensional thinking of the DWP.
    And it’s not going to work…..as the unemployment figures will soon show.

    Jeff Smith

    February 15, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    • They’re living in a dream world, cloud cuckoo land, not on this planet. It’s all gearing up to forcing millions of unemployed people into the gig economy or face Sanctions, all under the auspices of Universal Credit the cure for all ills.

      trev

      February 15, 2021 at 3:42 pm

      • This is one of the great advantages of Universal Credit. Most of the people on it are not working, whatever the government says. They have at best, a few hours of ‘work’ each week, or a temporary part-time job. Or they have been forced into a workfare scheme, under threat of sanctions. Most of the people claiming Universal Credit are unemployed, at least by any traditional definition of the word. But such is the nature of this devious, obscure system. With its complex regulations and conditions, that it is able to conceal the true numbers of unemployed claimants. And pass off a few scattered hours of work, as being in employment.

        Jeff Smith

        February 15, 2021 at 6:38 pm

      • Will Quince in response to calls for the “uplift” to be extended to ‘legacy Benefits’:

        “…the future is Universal Credit, and we have been absolutely clear as a government that we want people to move over from legacy benefits onto Universal Credit….People do have the choice and ability to move over to Universal Credit from legacy benefits,”

        https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1388115/universal-credit-uk-tax-credit-dwp-legacy-benefits-uplift

        trev

        February 15, 2021 at 10:17 pm

  48. superted

    February 15, 2021 at 5:49 pm

  49. superted

    February 15, 2021 at 5:56 pm

  50. Are the DWP Disability Confident on the disability confident list No why not !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 15, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    • I would like a job at the DWP is it that easy for disabled people to Work for the DWP !!

      Does the Disability Unit need disabled people to work for them begging for a great response in how great they are !!!

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 15, 2021 at 6:05 pm

  51. Be careful Justin Tomlinson in the Disability Unit government White & Green paper it will cause Human Rights Abuses.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 15, 2021 at 6:06 pm

  52. The DWP have now got 400,000 bi-polar people jobs, also the DWP have found 500,000 jobs for suicide risk people. Work Cures Bi-polar & suicide.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 15, 2021 at 6:08 pm

    • Great Advert DWP.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 15, 2021 at 6:08 pm

  53. Secret report casts doubt on DWP’s ‘no duty of care’ claim

    By John Pring on 11th February 2021 DNS

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has been unable to explain why its secretary of state continues to insist that it has no legal “duty of care” to disabled benefit claimants, when one of its own secret reports states clearly that it does.

    Work and pensions secretary Therese Coffey has repeatedly told MPs that her department does not have a legal duty to “safeguard” its claimants, and that such tasks are instead the responsibility of local agencies such as social services and doctors’ surgeries.

    Her repeated denials have come following a decade of distressing cases which have linked DWP’s policies and practices to the deaths of disabled people, particularly those being assessed for employment and support allowance (ESA) and personal independence payment.

    Now a secret report, probably completed in 2014, has shown a DWP civil servant discussing the department’s “ongoing Duty of Care” to claimants of incapacity benefit who were being reassessed for ESA.

    It recommends a review of DWP’s “ongoing Duty of Care in relation to the identification and support of claimants required to participate in the IBR [incapacity benefit reassessment] Process, who as a result of a [redacted] may be vulnerable and have different or additional support needs.”

    It continues: “When defined, the Duty of Care should be brought to the attention of all colleagues including those from Atos* who are involved in the IBR Process…”

    The report also warns: “The risk associated with disregarding the possibility that some of these claimants need more support or a different form of engagement is that we fail to recognise more cases like [redacted], with consequent potential impact on the claimant.”

    The references to the department’s duty of care are part of a heavily-redacted report written following an investigation by the department into a serious incident – probably a death – involving an IB claimant who was being reassessed for ESA.

    The redacted report was one of 49 released to Disability News Service (DNS) by DWP following a protracted freedom of information battle that ended in 2016 with DNS winning an appeal to the information rights tribunal.

    Despite the existence of the report, Coffey and her department continue to insist that there is no such legal duty of care.

    Last September, Coffey told the Commons work and pensions committee: “I do not think it is the responsibility of DWP to have that statutory care duty.

    “We are not the local councils, the social services, the doctors and other people who have that.”

    Last week, she repeated the claim, telling the same committee: “We don’t have a statutory duty specifically relating to safeguarding.”

    Her department has made the same claim in a freedom of information response to campaigner Amanda Hart, claiming that the “legal position is that there is no legal duty of care on the Secretary of State or her officials in the execution of their statutory duties”.

    Last September, disabled campaigner Alison Turner accused Coffey of being “heartless” and “sticking her fingers up to all the families who have lost someone” because of DWP’s actions, after the secretary of state claimed the department had no duty of care.

    Turner’s fiancé is the son of Errol Graham, who starved to death after his out-of-work disability benefits were wrongly removed by DWP as a result of flaws in the work capability assessment process.

    Turner said at the time that Coffey’s comments explained how Errol Graham and so many other claimants had died over the last decade, and why this “continues to happen to other people”.

    She said: “People like Errol have died because of it, because of the department’s lack of care, its lack of concern for people’s safety.”

    This week, Labour’s Debbie Abrahams, a member of the work and pensions committee, and the MP who has done most to hold DWP to account for the deaths of benefit claimants, said: “If this peer review report from approximately 2014 says DWP does have a duty of care, when did this change and why?”

    She added: “It is quite staggering, given the direct delivery of essential services and vital income to vulnerable social security claimants, that the work and pensions secretary doesn’t believe that her department has a duty of care to these claimants.

    “It is unconscionable that this duty isn’t recognised, particularly given the horrific deaths of vulnerable claimants over the last decade, and must be incredibly painful for the families of those who have died.

    “But it also makes a mockery of the government’s stated commitment to address the DWP’s failings and ensure vulnerable claimants are identified and protected.”

    Asked if Coffey could explain the discrepancy and say whether the position over whether the department has a duty of care had changed since 2012-14, a DWP spokesperson refused to comment.

    *At the time, Atos carried out work capability assessments on behalf of DWP

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 15, 2021 at 6:12 pm

    • Therese Coffey sacked.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 15, 2021 at 6:13 pm

      • The DWP took the Care Of Duty out of the hands of GP’s & doctors when they used WCA. What contract does the DWP have with ATOS, Serco, Maximus on Care Of Duty at the WCA?

        More work for Therese Coffey

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 15, 2021 at 6:15 pm

      • Therese Coffey refused to comment with the help of a DWP Spokesperson with no name.

        So Therese Coffey does not run the DWP yet Therese Coffey is the DWP Minister.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 15, 2021 at 6:17 pm

      • Strung up like a kipper.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        February 15, 2021 at 6:18 pm

      • I believe the saying is “stitched up” like a kipper (usually followed by the words “good and proper”), strung up might be like a pheasant?

        trev

        February 15, 2021 at 7:37 pm

  54. superted

    February 15, 2021 at 7:31 pm

  55. @superted: But Superted, what if they make it a rule of No Jab No Benefits ?

    George

    February 15, 2021 at 8:21 pm

  56. Tory policies will determine how bad this recession gets – and the signs aren’t good

    Owen Jones

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/14/tory-policies-recession-boris-johnson-austerity-covid-labour

    trev

    February 15, 2021 at 11:02 pm

    • superted

      February 15, 2021 at 11:26 pm

      • I find it highly irritating that Bellend constantly refers to Covid-19 as “the old Kung flu” in an ongoing attempt to undermine the seriousness of the pandemic. Also why does he try to turn every report into an attack against the Left? This story of the dehumanization of the disabled is the fault of the Tory government, nothing to do with Guardian readers! This guy is such a smug bastard.

        trev

        February 15, 2021 at 11:57 pm

  57. Between 1 January and 31 December 2020, 550,238 deaths occurred in England (and were registered by 9 January 2021). This was 50,882 more deaths than the five-year average (2015 to 2019) for January to December (10.2% higher). Of the 550,238 deaths that occurred, 12.9% were due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) (71,110 deaths).

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/december2020#death-occurrences-in-december-2020-and-year-to-date

    In 2019, there were 530,841 deaths registered in England and Wales, a decrease of 2.0% compared with 2018 (541,589 deaths).

    Taking into account the population size and age structure, age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) in England and Wales decreased significantly, by 3.7% for males and 4.7% for females.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregistrationsummarytables/2019#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20there%20were%20530%2C841,males%20and%204.7%25%20for%20females.

    not 1 person on msm will report this fact and is the official ons results for total deaths in England for the last 3 years!

    superted

    February 16, 2021 at 12:31 am

    • Ted, mate, we’ve had THREE NATIONAL LOCKDOWNS between March 2020 and are still in one today. Without the lockdowns plus additional hygiene, mask wearing and social distancing measures, which only began last March, there would have been hundreds of thousands of more premature deaths caused by coronavirus. Your stats don’t account for the skewing of the data that has happened because of the measures instituted, tardily, by the government. You keep doing this and the comparisons are not valid because they don’t take the skewing of the data happening because of measures introduced: believe you me coronavirus IS a real and present danger to life, health and welfare. You seem to have a death wish, man, and I would urge you to be vaccinated for your own sake and sake of those who care about you.

      Tim

      February 16, 2021 at 10:06 am

      • Interestingly…

        Optimism as Cuba set to test its own Covid vaccine

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-56069577

        trev

        February 16, 2021 at 10:47 am

      • @Tim – Superted always goes his own way, so you might as well talk to a brick wall. If he is already being offered the vaccine under 40, then there must be serious medical reasons for this ! It is very important for people like Superted, who must be in a vulnerable group, to get the vaccine. It won’t cost you anything Superted, just a little common-sense.

        Jeff Smith

        February 16, 2021 at 12:56 pm

      • Up until 2020, these mRNA biotech companies had poor results testing mRNA drugs for cardiovascular, metabolic and renal diseases; selected targets for cancer; and rare diseases like Crigler–Najjar syndrome, with most finding that the side-effects of mRNA insertion were too serious.[24][25] mRNA vaccines for human use have been developed and tested for the diseases rabies, Zika, cytomegalovirus, and influenza, although these mRNA vaccines have not been licensed.[26] Many large pharmaceutical companies abandoned the technology,[24] while some biotechs re-focused on the less profitable area of vaccines, where the doses would be at lower levels and side-effects reduced.[24][27]

        Before the COVID-19 pandemic, no mRNA drug or vaccine was licensed for use in humans. In December 2020, both Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech obtained emergency use authorization for their mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines, which had been funded by Operation Warp Speed (directly in the case of Moderna and indirectly for Pfizer/BioNTech).[21] On 2 December 2020, seven days after its final eight-week trial, the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), became the first global medicines regulator in history to approve an mRNA vaccine, granting “emergency authorization” for Pfizer/BioNTech’s BNT162b2 COVID-19 vaccine for widespread use.[7][8][28] MHRA CEO June Raine said “no corners have been cut in approving it”,[29] and that, “the benefits outweigh any risk”.[30][31] On 11 December 2020 the FDA gave emergency use authorization for the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.[32]

        yeah no thanks 😉

        superted

        February 16, 2021 at 1:16 pm

      • Man wakes from Covid-19 intensive care battle to find his mother and her partner have died from virus

        https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/man-wakes-coma-household-dead-coronavirus-a4517901.html

        trev

        February 16, 2021 at 1:50 pm

      • ‘Take coronavirus seriously’: Berlin mum makes plea after 30 days in coma

        https://www.thelocal.de/20200921/take-coronavirus-seriously-berlin-mum-makes-plea-after-30-days-in-coma

        trev

        February 16, 2021 at 2:04 pm

      • You have no right telling Ted to take that toxic mRNA shite especially as you aren’t a medic. Whatever happened to my body my choice eh?

        Cloverleaf

        February 16, 2021 at 1:56 pm

      • Tim

        You make a valid point and without various bits of crucial data sadly not recorded or impossible to record in a meaningful way, i couldn’t personally give a definitive answer. Hopefully in time through research we will find these things out as it all would serve as a valuable tool towards any future viruses.

        In earnest the closest thing i have to even coming mildly yet convincingly close is comparisons with the situations such as 1986 H3N2 which effects the same similar age and fitness ranges as covid 19.
        In 1968 we didnt have the same health service and knowledge we have today, didnt isolate, distance or cover as we do today amd the population was about half of what it is today.

        The data comparison of these particular two SUGGESTS the overwhelming majority (86.5% of global population. qualitatively speaking.74% worse case ) without any measures would not die as a result of contracting Covid.
        These projected figures work on the basis of you catch covid, you die if your in the group of over 60 years of age and or have underlying health conditions. The reason for this is that as we know, its not unless accompanied by an underlying health condition killing anyone of any numerical note under said age.

        So know currently only 0.03% of total global population is recorded as dying as a result of Covid 19. That around 0.03% of global population died after contracting H3N2 (1968) and around 2.7% died after contracting H1N1 (1918)

        Today we have full restrictive measures for all whether the virus was contracted or not, in 1968 we only had full measures for those infected and the same again measures for 1918 except they had no vaccine or antibiotics.

        1918 was high because mortality effected all age groups not to mention no vaccines or antibiotics.

        So efficacy of restrictive/preventive measures including vaccines and antibiotics remains highly subjective.
        1918 acts as evidence to suggest worse case wouldn’t in all likelihood happen, meaning by comparison in conjunction with 1968 H3N2 that at best such measures and medicines are only 1.1% to 1.6% effective to only the effected groups. In terms of global population however, the remaining 74% to 86.5%, these restrictive measures do nothing besides lower the length at which they would be out of commission as a result of coming down with a case of covid 19.

        Not what you were expecting, me to but thats what the calculations based on documented evidence presented me. I still remain steadfast though that some action is still better than no action just that, i cannot find any evidence to suggest a vaccine should be mandatory for all when mostly all arent any more effected by its presence than the regular flu viruses that invade us all yearly at this current juncture.

        HOWEVER as you may have noted, i have yet to cross the Long Covid bridge. The reason for this is its still very new for us all so i cannot say with any certainty what the repercussions are for any group and whether we can put them to bed.

        Its is on this basis i do urge all people to consider carefully beyond surface thoughts whether having the jab is worth it but if not or while considering, strongly urge they maintain wearing a mask and practicing distance and hygiene

        Doug

        February 20, 2021 at 5:58 am

      • I just want to point out im not playing politics here and refuse to take a side in this issue.
        The information supplied is merely in response to Tims posts.

        This information is static and as such means may or will change overtime.

        DO NOT USE this information in anyway so as to form a decision either way as to regards practicing restrictive measures including whether or not to take the vaccine or any other authenticated official medical offering being advised by a qualified registered and practicing member of the NHS.

        Doug

        February 20, 2021 at 6:54 am

    • Man who spent 44 days in a coma with Covid urges people to take the virus seriously

      https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2021-01-31/man-who-spent-44-days-in-a-coma-with-covid-urges-people-to-take-the-virus-seriously

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    • Woman’s plea for people to take Covid seriously as she waits in car park outside hospital where husband is in a coma

      https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-01-08/womans-plea-for-people-to-take-covid-seriously-as-she-waits-in-car-park-outside-hospital-where-husband-is-in-a-coma

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    • A woman who was put into an induced coma for 13 days after contracting coronavirus has urged people to follow restrictions.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-56032317

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 2:00 pm

  58. 450,000 families ‘behind on rent because of Covid’

    Almost half a million UK families are thought to have fallen behind on rent, as a result of the coronavirus crisis, according to the Resolution Foundation.

    It said more than 750,000 had been behind on housing costs last month.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56075518

    the shit is going to hit the fan big time!

    superted

    February 16, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    • No doubt the pandemic has made the situation a whole lot worse but there already were massive amounts of rent arrears due to Universal Credit.

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    • Evictions

      800,000 private renters have built up arrears since the ban came into force, which they would struggle to ever pay off.

      “It will lead eventually to them having to leave their home and face serious damage to their credit scores,”

      “But courts are still approving eviction claims where the landlord doesn’t need a reason

      . Renters are still are being served with eviction notices every day,

      xclausx

      February 16, 2021 at 2:14 pm

  59. Gates goes ‘full captain planet’wants to change every aspect of the economy, while we dine on fake meat.

    http://stateofthenation.co/?p=52699

    Cloverleaf

    February 16, 2021 at 2:59 pm

    • Practical steps to tackle global warming and reducing meat production/consumption. Nothing wrong with any of that. I don’t eat meat anyway so it’s all good to me 😊 and fake meat made from microbial fungus already exists, it’s marketed as ‘Quorn’.

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 3:15 pm

      • Fake microbial meat sounds disgusting to me give me a lovely free range chicken any day in a casserole with onions, mushrooms and paprika yum
        🐓.

        Cloverleaf

        February 16, 2021 at 3:27 pm

      • Hardly fair on the chicken is it?

        trev

        February 16, 2021 at 4:07 pm

  60. People who don’t take up the vaccine, are not only risking their own life, but more importantly, the lives of other people in their community.

    Jeff Smith

    February 16, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    • COVID-19 deaths with no underlying health condition
      Figures for COVID-19 deaths with no underlying health conditions are available on Table 5, this means where no other underlying condition was listed on the death certificate.

      No pre-existing condition: England and Wales – 4476
      No pre-existing condition: England – 4169
      No pre-existing condition: Wales – 294
      We are no longer publishing monthly: Deaths involving COVID-19, England and Wales. This is due to the decrease in the number of COVID-19 related deaths. Therefore, we are unable to provide you with COVID deaths with no underlying for July to November 2020. In order to fulfil this request, we would need to create bespoke analysis for you. Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, Public Authorities are not obligated to create information in order to respond to requests. We therefore consider this to be information not held

      https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsbyageanddeathsfromcovid19only

      if you want it then take it but i dont want the jab and no one i know wants it either.

      superted

      February 16, 2021 at 3:24 pm

  61. I won’t be getting the shot either dead eye bill can stick his ‘vaccine’where the sun don’t shine.

    Cloverleaf

    February 16, 2021 at 3:32 pm

  62. New report shows health inequalities and mortality rates are increasing for the poorest.

    In a recent report conducted by the 2020 Marmot review it reveals that life expectancy in England is stalling, while at the same time health inequalities are widening

    https://thepoorsideof.life/2021/02/16/new-report-shows-health-inequalities-and-mortality-rates-are-increasing-for-the-poorest

    trev

    February 16, 2021 at 4:04 pm

  63. Is Covid 19 not a disability & if it is it is the only Tory disability on the books.

    Work Cures Covid 19.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 16, 2021 at 4:14 pm

    • So that sounds silly – Work Cures MS, Work Cures Cancer, Work Cures Bi-polar – Work Cures Wheelchairs.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 16, 2021 at 4:15 pm

  64. So many Vaccine Passports on the black-market Tories.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 16, 2021 at 4:16 pm

    • ATOS, Serco, G4S, Maximus, Comcentrix all running Vaccine Passports on the black-market to save them from going under.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 16, 2021 at 4:17 pm

  65. The Tories think when the shops open there is going to be a spending spree. No tories people are still paying back from the first lockdown, Christmas, Energy Bills & rent. People help not learnt to tighten their belts.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 16, 2021 at 4:20 pm

    • British Gas to hike energy bills by £97 for millions of customers from April

      The cost of broadband rising in April.

      The cost of everything rising.

      xclausx

      February 16, 2021 at 5:24 pm

      • virgin put it up £3.50 a month

        superted

        February 16, 2021 at 5:32 pm

  66. 1 million in rent arrears – 10 million unemployed

    Are we trying to beat the record set by Margret Thatcher in the 1980’s !!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 16, 2021 at 4:23 pm

    • The Local Councils & Landlords can’t keep up. So the losers are the ones who can’t pay their rent because they have got a Exercise bike for £700 instead on paying their rent. Stark choices which people are just realizing what is important.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      February 16, 2021 at 4:25 pm

  67. These people moaning about poverty & they ain’t got a clue on how much worse it is going to get.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    February 16, 2021 at 4:28 pm

  68. It turns out that superted was right, the death rate hasn’t been any higher than normal.

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/health/huddersfield-university-researchers-make-surprising-19844442

    I suspect, however, that there would have been more deaths if it hadn’t been for the safety measures and precautions taken and implemented, i.e. safe distancing, facemasks, hand gel, and lockdowns. If we’d done nothing and continued as normal there would undoubtedly have been more deaths in my opinion.

    trev

    February 16, 2021 at 8:01 pm

  69. @Jeff Smith. You’re quite right . Taking the vaccine is the only right thing to do. If not for your own sake, then for other people in your family and community.
    This has been worldwide health disaster, and trying to excuse selfishness by playing with statistics does not excuse that. Now is not the time to be getting out spreadsheets and thinking you are very clever if you can prove this percent or that percent. It’s not about death rates, it’s about a worldwide plague that has already killed over 100,000 people in the UK. And some 900 doctors and medical staff. Surely that is enough death on its own to get some of the selfish weirdos on here off their arses ? Get the vaccine, before you infect someone else.

    George M

    February 16, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    • Absolutely. I agree. Regardless of the statistics it makes sense to get vaccinated. Anti-vax mentality is medieval thinking based on superstition.

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 9:53 pm

  70. just wait until this thing finally kicks in with 10 million on uc and half a million on the streets.

    the dwp wont be able to push you in to any job as there wont be any to apply for so will use there sanction tools to clear there books anyway they can to add to there Christmas performance bonuses.

    Secretary of State: DWP has no legal duty to safeguard the wellbeing of vulnerable claimants

    https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/2020/october/secretary-state-dwp-has-no-legal-duty-safeguard-wellbeing-vulnerable-claimants

    death
    without
    Prosecution

    superted

    February 16, 2021 at 10:18 pm

    • Mass Workfare for everyone, work for your dole to save the country, it’s the patriotic thing to do, only Communist traitors demand wages in exchange for their labour. Dig for Victory and all that. Refuse and it’s Sanctions all round. Either that or they’ll bring back National Service. Or have another war to lower the population.

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 10:34 pm

      • but not everyone trev if they want my paw print they can go spin on it 😉

        superted

        February 16, 2021 at 10:59 pm

      • There’s no Human Rights in the post-Brexit post-Covid new normal, no contracts, no signatures required, do the Workfare or be Sanctioned. You’ll be stacking shelves in Poundstretcher with the rest of us or out on the streets where begging carries a ten year prison sentence. Political parties of all persuasions will be waving the Union Jack. There’ll be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide in the Neoliberal Brave New World.

        trev

        February 16, 2021 at 11:14 pm

  71. uc digital buy default welcome to wonderland 😉

    superted

    February 16, 2021 at 11:43 pm

    • That was me using the Jobcentre computers about 5 years ago, slow as fuck and kept crashing. Once spent 20 mins. filing in an online application then the bastard crashed, so rebooted it found the job advert again and started from scratch, finally clicked submit and it said “this job is no longer available”, Aaaaarrrgh!!!

      trev

      February 16, 2021 at 11:57 pm

      • Four PC in my local Jobcentre still have Windows 7 on them and the other four Debian Linux without the Microsoft TTF package installed, so you only have about half a dozen ugly fonts available to use. The Linux machines are speedier but nothing gets updated in a timely manner and the Firefox browser people people are supposed to use is, literally, years out of date. I’ve complained a couple of times but nobody seems to give a hoot.

        Aleister

        February 17, 2021 at 8:13 am

      • The computers in my jobcentre were truly terrible, practically unusable, but they have all been replaced since then and the whole system was upgraded. I still preferred using the library though as it’s a bit more pleasant atmosphere not as oppressive feeling. The Jobcentre is an hostile environment.

        trev

        February 17, 2021 at 9:29 am

  72. Had a quick look at my Universal Credit Journal and found this in my To-do list:

    “Your phone appointment to Re-Engage with your Work Coach Joan

    Warning! If you are unable to keep this appointment, tell us as soon as possible. You can use your journal or call 0800 328 5644 (Textphone: 0800 328 1344). Calls to 0800 numbers are free from landlines and mobiles.
    We’ll call you on

    Friday 5 March 2021 at 2:40pm

    Your appointment is with: Joan”

    Seems like the wheels are going to start grinding again… damn!… almost made it to one year in peace too!

    On the bright side at least it’s not in person.

    Aleister

    February 17, 2021 at 8:07 am

    • Horrible sinking feeling isn’t it? I don’t want to have any contact with those people whatsoever. The Jobcentre is responsible for a lot of fear, anxiety, misery, and blights peoples’ lives with a negative effect on the mental wellbeing of thousands of people.

      trev

      February 17, 2021 at 9:35 am

      • We’ll probably still be in lockdown in most of March and so I anticipate fortnightly phone “appointments” ahead for several months with my Work Coach. The fact my appointment hasn’t been set on the hour or half-hour leads me to think that it’ll probably only last five to ten minutes, say, hopefully and not be long, searching and extended. I haven’t had my anti-Covid vaccination yet and am surprised that Jobcentres are “re-engaging” with claimants before the current lockdown comes to an end and many more people have had the protective jab. What’s the point? Most businesses are closed, shops are closed, hospitality venues are closed, libraries are closed, millions still furloughed, almost everybody only allowed to leave their homes for essential purposes, like getting food, and only a small number of the worst imaginable crap mini-jobs being advertised why the heck start “re-engaging” (euphemism for “harassing”) with men and women now before things have even begun to unlock and the job market begun to pick up again?

        There could hardly be a less suitable and pointless time to get the ball rolling again in my opinion.

        Although ungodly the DWP does seem to move in mysterious ways.

        Aleister

        February 17, 2021 at 11:46 am

      • @Aleister

        I’ve been having telephone appointments/reviews since July.

        jj joop

        February 17, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    • @ jj joop

      Wow! Well I suppose I ought to consider myself lucky to have missed them for so long! What are they like? Every other week for… ten minutes?… fifteen? Can’t be to long I imagine since so many people will be contacted there won’t be much time to get into anything in detail. Something to be worried about or not? What do you reckon?

      Aleister

      February 17, 2021 at 2:22 pm

      • they might change the cc and just ask you if you have been applying for jobs and thats about it but had my new cc sent to me in the post.

        they also said would send me an appointment card for the next time i have to ring them but never bothered so good job i noted the time and date when i was on the phone.

        superted

        February 17, 2021 at 2:31 pm

      • Cheers. I don’t see anybody having to go to the Jobcentre in person for a while and, with so many people claiming UC, doubt that they have the manpower to call people very often.

        Aleister

        February 17, 2021 at 4:15 pm

      • @Aleister

        My telephone appointments usually last no more than 3 or 4 minutes. My work coach is quite pleasant. She’ll ask me how I am. I tell her that I am actively seeking employment but we don’t go into specifics. I haven’t been asked to provide evidence of my job search, which I can do if required. But I am under the old system, i.e. legacy JSA, which means claimants can provide their evidence in a format of their choosing. Before the pandemic, I would bring in a copy of my hand written journal and they were more than satisfied with that.

        As superted has stated on many occasions, they can’t check up on you anyway because of data privacy laws. If an employer or agency gives out your personal data without your consent, they’re breaking the law and if you complain to the ICO they’ll get a big fine.

        jj joop

        February 17, 2021 at 7:50 pm


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