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Universal Credit Fraud, DWP Hounds People for Debts they do not owe.

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It's a nightmare': woman faces £1,300 demand due to universal credit fraud | Identity fraud | The Guardian


This story appeared a couple of days ago and has raised a whole series of questions.

Stop hounding victims of universal credit fraud, DWP told


People whose identities have been stolen hit by demands for repayment for debt they do not owe.

The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is coming under pressure to stop hounding unwitting victims of a multimillion-pound universal credit fraud.

In November, the Guardian revealed how benefits staff were struggling to deal with calls from people whose stolen identities had been used to make fraudulent universal credit claims in their name.

We featured the case of a Hampshire woman who had known nothing of the claim she had supposedly made until the DWP’s debt collectors demanded she repay a £1,300 advance payment.

Further victims have come forward to say they, too, are facing demands for £1,400-plus and are being told that 20% of their December pay packet will be seized by the DWP, unless they agree to set up a repayment plan – all for a debt they do not owe.

Today, the Scotsman,

Pilot pursued by UK Government over ‘fraudulent’ benefits claim

A Scots pilot has told how he is being pursued by the UK Government for benefit fraud after having his identity stolen.

Andrew Simpson* was contacted in September by a debt management company run by the Department of Work and Pensions claiming he owed £821 due to fraudulently claiming Universal Credit while being employed. The debt collectors wrote to his employer, demanding that the money was deducted from his next pay cheque.

However, Mr Simpson, from Edinburgh, who has been in full-time work with his current employer for the past eight years, has never claimed Universal Credit or any other kind of benefit

Our old chum meanwhile is enjoying some sexy-time looking at her achievements.

Written by Andrew Coates

December 13, 2020 at 10:53 am

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  1. 25 blunders, scandals and crises of Boris Johnson a year after he won election.



    December 13, 2020 at 11:26 am

  2. Many lies from the tories


    December 13, 2020 at 11:47 am

  3. Identity fraud – the problem with many of our personal info going on line.


    December 13, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    • Press release

      Universal Credit – weapon against benefit fraudsters

      Universal Credit will reduce fraud and error in the benefits system, Ministers said today.

      Published 23 February 2012

      Welfare Reform Minister Lord Freud said:

      “Universal Credit will revolutionise the way we pay people benefits. The current system is made up of a complicated array of benefits, entitlements and add-ons, which can leave it susceptible to fraud.

      “But Universal Credit will dramatically reduce the chances of fraud entering the system. It will cut down on error as it will be much easier to understand and administer. It will simplify and automate the benefits system to ensure taxpayer’s money is going to those who need it the most.

      “Universal Credit will also reduce the incentive for fraud by making sure people are better off in work than on benefits.”



      December 13, 2020 at 10:10 pm

  4. Headline = “DWP Hounds People”.
    Yes, and they’ve been doing it for years. Hounding people seems to be the DWP’s raison d’être, regardless of debts, alleged fraud or overpayment. Hounding people is what they do best. They don’t really help anyone, that’s just pretence and propaganda. They don’t “make work pay”, that’s just a meaningless slogan. All they do, and exist to do, is hound people, off of Benefits, and/or to death if necessary.


    December 13, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    • @trev – Very true, Trev. The benefits system in this country is not fit for purpose. Unless as you say, the purpose is to throw people off benefits and into minimum wage, zero-hours work, or provider training schemes.

      Jeff Smith

      December 13, 2020 at 1:11 pm

      • It depends, you1ll be hounded only if they know you don’t want a job,

        Work does pay.


        December 13, 2020 at 1:19 pm

      • It is perfectly clear by now that Universal Credit is completely unfit for purpose and is the biggest cock-up in the history of the UK Benefits system, an outright assault on the very notion of Social Security, a mean, vindictive, punitive and deliberately dysfunctional system that is nothing short of an act of Class War. Only the Nasty Party could ever portray such a vile system as being a great success.


        December 13, 2020 at 1:20 pm

      • @ xclausx

        Bullshit. They are still peddling the myth that poverty is the fault of the poor, and the lie that it is possible to work your way out of poverty. The gap between earnings and the costs of living make that impossible in this day and age. The costs of commuting 10 – 15 miles to work in a minimum wage job, then pay your outrageous amount of rent for your accommodation, and huge utility bills, Council Tax etc. all means that you would be struggling to make ends meet, keep a roof over your head, keep warm and feed the kids. Hence there are people in work who are having to rely on foodbanks, which in itself is proof positive that you are wrong.


        December 13, 2020 at 1:26 pm

      • It is perfectly clear by now that Universal Credit is completely unfit for purpose

        people who say that are scared to go on it because they will be forced into work.


        December 13, 2020 at 1:29 pm

      • Theres nothing wrong with UC


        December 13, 2020 at 1:30 pm

      • You’re obviously either a Tory or a Class Traitor, or are in the rare position whereby Universal Credit is of benefit to you, i.e. Own your house so don’t have to pay rent or mortgage, have a well-paid job, don’t have to travel far to work/or can afford to have your own transport. Yes, for a minority of people in that sort of position work pays, but for the vast majority that is not the case.


        December 13, 2020 at 2:08 pm

      • Carry on, for the people who are watching this blog.


        December 13, 2020 at 2:14 pm

      • What’s that supposed to mean?


        December 13, 2020 at 2:25 pm

      • 13th March 2019

        Universal Credit leaves people relying on food parcels for FOUR weeks

        Number of hard up benefit claimants seeking help from the charity rises sharply following introduction of controversial Government scheme



        December 13, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    • Being in work does pay if you’re on Universal Credit, but unless you’ve got enough hours or are on a high wage it most times doesn’t pay much, especially if you have to commute to work and back. Unless you are earning wages equivalent to 35 hours on the minimum wage 63% of your wages will be deducted from your entitlements. Most people in this situation also have to pay more Council Tax. So basically if you work less than a full week of hours what you earn hardly compensates you for what you lose by way of costs and deductions, leaving you with a very small sum of extra income when everything has been considered: work will pay in the sense that you will be a few pounds better off but you will still be living in poverty, only it will be working poverty rather unemployed poverty which is no better really on a personal level.

      Universal Credit was originally touted as a way to end poverty rather than just may work pay and it certainly isn’t doing that. If anything Universal Credit exacerbates poverty. What we need is a benefits system that gets people out of poverty not one in which the unemployed can be exploited and made to do dribbles of low paid work which do not help them and leaves them struggling.

      Universal Credit is hard to get, easy to lose and doesn’t help people escape from poverty.

      It is for the most part a very bad thing.


      December 14, 2020 at 7:37 am

  5. Concerns raised on reduction of appointment times in Jobcentres
    11 Dec 2020
    PCS is opposed to the reintroduction of Labour Market conditionality from 1 July 2020. Group executive committee (GEC) negotiators robustly made the case that reintroducing the conditionality and sanctions regime was morally wrong at any time, never mind at a time of a pandemic and limited job opportunities as unemployment was forecast to rise. DWP advised that there would be a phased approach to conditionality and that there would be a light touch decision making process when it came to issuing sanctions.

    Work Coach members angry at the reduction of appointment times
    The reintroduction of conditionality has resulted in appointment times being reduced much to the anger of many Work Coach members. The decision to reduce the First Commitments appointment time from 50 to 30 minutes and Work Focus Intervention from 20 to 10 minutes saw many Work Coach members contact the GEC to express their anger at what they saw as taking away their autonomy. This was particularly highlighted in the Work Search Reviews, which are now limited to only 10 minutes, when previously the timings of those appointments were at the discretion of the Work Coach. DWP issued new COVID-19 Universal Credit (UC) diary management and appointment booking guidance at the end of October. Many Work Coach members have asked if this guidance has been agreed with PCS. We can categorically say they haven’t, in fact there was no consultation with PCS about this.

    PCS raise the concerns of Work Coaches with DWP
    GEC negotiators have been raising the reduction of appointment times with senior DWP management since July and making clear how angry our Work Coach members are about this. Some members told us that they were not allowed any breaks between the 10 minute interviews and this, in addition to increased caseload pressure, has resulted in reports of staff feeling extremely stressed. In fact, some have stated that if the situation is not changed quickly, they will be forced to go off on sick leave. This is a worrying development which DWP must address as a matter of urgency. DWP advised last month that the reduction in appointment times was a temporary measure as the department faced a large increase in UC and New Style JSA claims. At a recent meeting with senior Work and Health Services management, PCS were advised that appointment timings are subject to a review on an ongoing basis as they want to provide as much help to customers as possible. Management confirmed that breaks between interviews had not been withdrawn, as had been reported by some members. They also stated that they will look at Work Coach caseloads with a view to supporting staff and providing clear messaging on what can be done in 10 minutes.

    Claimant groups angry at reduction of appointment times
    In addition to Work Coaches being expressing concerns, PCS have been contacted by some claimant representative groups advising that they have been notified of what they see as a reduction in service. This view is shared by Work Coach members who take great pride in helping people, many of them vulnerable, in their time of need and feel that they are unable to do so because they are not allocated enough time.

    The use of spreadsheets
    The GEC continue to be contacted by members regarding the use of speadsheets which they feel are unnecessary and time consuming. Management confirmed that they are currently looking at trackers and how they are used moving forward, including whether they are necessary. The GEC will continue to seek updates on this review and provide feedback to members when we can.

    Guidance for members
    DWP were left in no doubt at a recent meeting that there was a groundswell of anger amongst our Work Coach members regarding the reduction of appointment times. Despite achieving concessions in the Safety Dispute for Work Coach empowerment, many feel that, although they can choose how they can conduct interviews, discretion for some appointment times has been withdrawn. If you are feel stressed as a result, please contact your local PCS rep for support. PCS will continue to take Work Coach issues forward with the employer and press for an increase in appointment times and ensure that Work Coaches get the support they require from management


    December 13, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    • Good for some but not for all those who lost thier jobs this year, the airlines etc, who will no doubt want to get into a new job asap, because they too will have rent, bills, debts to pay for, if not many will lose thier houses and end up homeless, but many don’t think about them do they,


      December 13, 2020 at 2:40 pm

      • “many don’t think about them do they,”

        Of course people are thinking about them, the situation is horrendous and probably going to get a lot worse with the ongoing Pandemic disruption and Brexit yet to take affect. That’s another reason why UC is not fit for purpose, you can’t have millions of people subjected to those sort of ridiculously stringent and punitive rules when they need financial support from the State. There has never been a greater need for an Unconditional Basic Income. Not Sanctions and never-ending futile jobsearch, and stupid back-to-work schemes and bloody Workfare.


        December 13, 2020 at 2:48 pm

      • no work coach has ever helped me in to a job same as all the providers i have been sent to over the years it is all about conditionality and control!.

        when i sign on im not even in there 5 mins but sounds like 10 mins is not enough time to trip ppl up with sanctions and there lies and bull shit and boost there Christmas performance bonuses.

        i have not missed 1 day of job searching i dont need to visit them every 2 weeks once a year is all that is needed sack the lot of them 😉


        December 13, 2020 at 2:57 pm

    • Conditionality and Sanctions, and Universal Credit, are all based upon 19th Century attitudes, notions, and ethics. We need a form of State support worthy of and suitable for the 21st C. It’s time to share the wealth, transform the UK plc into a UK Co-op, not a Tory sweatshop that benefits the 1%.


      December 13, 2020 at 3:00 pm

      • Bravo Trev ! At least you are still here to speak up for the genuine, socialist humanitarian view. Not like these covert Tory class-traitors like xclausx. Who won’t even put their real names to their pathetic spite-filled rants.

        George M.

        December 13, 2020 at 3:27 pm

  6. This business about making people pay for something they haven’t done, reminds me of North Korea.
    Where people are charged with invented crimes they have not committed. But are still expected to go along with it, and plead guilty.

    Jeff Smith

    December 13, 2020 at 3:17 pm

  7. […] Universal Credit Fraud, DWP Hounds People for Debts they do not owe. […]

  8. No one likes to hear the truth, this includes most on here.


    December 13, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    • You have some very Reactionary views. Let me guess, a Working Class Tory. Get back to your Daily Mail.


      December 13, 2020 at 6:29 pm

      • @trev – xclausx is more like the Daily Express Trev. A right little Tory toady.

        George M.

        December 13, 2020 at 6:53 pm

  9. Give men and women the option to retire at 60 with a state pension



    December 13, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    • No-one should be signing-on over 60 in the current situation. It is a pointless cruelty to make these people go through the misery of Universal Credit, and provider training courses.

      Jeff Smith

      December 13, 2020 at 7:20 pm

      • The only ‘point’ of it is to transfer public money to the Restart Providers, and of course to ensure maximum continued punishment of the poor.


        December 13, 2020 at 7:29 pm

  10. trev

    December 13, 2020 at 6:57 pm

  11. “Scrap Universal Credit and replace it with a system that offers a safety net for all”



    December 13, 2020 at 7:44 pm

  12. Gordon Brown warns of ‘community revolt’ amid call to scrap Universal Credit plans


    You heard the man, “community revolt”, go to it !


    December 13, 2020 at 7:51 pm

  13. The 35 hours jobsearch requirements for Universal Credit

    Universal Credit requires 2.3 million claimants make at least 16 million job applications every week, whilst only 300 thousand* UK Job Vacancies exist or face #BenefitSanctions – *ONS figures Apr – Jun 2020

    Neil Couling: “We talk about work search being a full-time activity. When we have conditionality operating…we ask for 35 hours’ job search a week from claimants of universal credit. Therefore, the mentality mirrors the world of work.
    You are paid after you have done the work, not before you have done it”



    December 13, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    • Absurd as 2.3 million Universal Credit claimants required to chase “90,939 Jobs” on DWP Jobsite



      December 13, 2020 at 8:58 pm

      • Work search expectations will differ for each claimant depending on their individual
        circumstances and job goals and advisers will tailor requirements for each claimant, which
        means that not all claimants will automatically be subject to the 35 hour work search
        requirement. Our regulations allow that where a claimant has done all that could reasonably be
        expected of them – for example they have applied for all suitable jobs and undertaken all the
        activities set out in their work search and work preparation plan – this may be considered
        sufficient even where the time taken was less than the hours expected.



        the 35hr job search is a expectation it is not the law it is guidance the dwp use for control but as the foi says as long as you are applying for jobs and can prove this the time taken does not matter.


        December 13, 2020 at 11:13 pm

      • I got into an argument with a JCP Adviser (aka Dole Clerk) about 4 or 5 years ago, when she told me that I would be going on to Universal Credit “soon” (still hasn’t happened) and in order to get up to speed prior to that happening I was required to 35 hours of jobsearch whilst still on JSA ! I flatly refused and told her where to get off and an argument ensued. She said that when I go on to UC I will be expected to do 5 hours jobsearch 7 days a week nonstop. I told her that wasn’t going to happen and that I’d rather be Sanctioned than comply. I emailed my MP about it but got nowhere so ended up contacting the local newspaper, they got in touch with the Regional Director of Jobcentres for my area who confirmed that I am not required to do 35 hours jobsearch whilst still on JSA, and that was that. The Adviser got moved onto Reception. I’m still on JSA.


        December 13, 2020 at 11:40 pm

      • the law is the same for uc and jsa i have 35hr job search on my cc so am expected to do it but as long as i can show i am looking and applying for work the time taken does not matter.

        it is nothing more than a bullying tactic the dwp use to gain control over the claimant it has nothing to do with finding work.

        the dwp has been taken to court over the 35hr job search and lost at upper tribunal on a point of law.


        December 14, 2020 at 1:43 pm

  14. Tories ‘sleepwalking’ into coronavirus jobs ‘crisis’, warns House of Lords panel

    Funds should be targeted at boosting the number of social care workers and nursery staff, according to the Economic Affairs Committee.



    December 14, 2020 at 3:51 am

  15. Keir Starmer demands Boris Johnson keeps promise to tackle surge in homelessness

    Mr Starmer tells the Tory chief: “Rough sleeping is a crisis which you pledged to end for good.



    December 14, 2020 at 9:27 am

  16. I see the Universal Credit claimants are going to get a £10 Christmas Bonus ? But not the legacy claimants !
    This is pure benefit discrimination.

    Jeff Smith

    December 14, 2020 at 1:12 pm

  17. GPs in England to begin offering Pfizer jab.


    December 14, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    • @ Cloverleaf

      You’ll be lucky! The GPs haven’t even got sufficient supplies of the Flu vaccine, and my GP won’t even let you in the surgery, you have to speak to the Receptionist through an intercom on the door – whilst the automatic doors are opening and closing constantly on a movement sensor! I had enough trouble recently just trying to get my regular prescription which I request online but the online system wouldn’t let me do so because it said I was due for a medication review, but the Receptionist told me on the phone to ignore that as they are not doing reviews at the moment, trouble is no one had told the system that. It took two phone calls, three emails and four visits to the chemist and the surgery intercom before I got it sorted, supposed to take one tablet per day but was without any from Saturday to the following Thursday. GPs are in chaos. No Flu jabs available either.


      December 14, 2020 at 2:20 pm

      • What a bloody palava eh Trev, we live in strange times.


        December 14, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    • GP quacks helping to further the mass euthanasia programme, do no harm my arse!


      December 14, 2020 at 2:24 pm

      • Don’t be daft, it’s not a “mass euthanasia programme” ffs, vaccines save lives you dummy. Lay off the weed!


        December 14, 2020 at 2:27 pm

      • Trev, the scum want the elderly gone, no more pensions or health care to fork out for, the dwp have got their own euthanasia programme ongoing against benefit claimants, it’s just being expanded to include even more useless eaters!


        December 14, 2020 at 5:19 pm

      • Oh the DWP will hound people to death without a second thought, but the Medical profession? Surely not. The NHS are working flat-out to address the Covid emergency. That’s the difference between the DWP of today and the DHSS of the past (Department for Health and Social Security), they cynically separated Social Security from Health to disconnect themselves from the inconvenience of culpability and responsibility for peoples’ well-being, as Therese Coffey recently said “DWP has no legal duty to safeguard the wellbeing of vulnerable claimants”



        December 14, 2020 at 5:56 pm

      • But anyway, why are we getting the Pfizer vaccine and not the Oxford one? Doesn’t Brexit mean anything? We want British vaccines for British viruses, none of that foreign muck. 😂


        December 14, 2020 at 6:23 pm

  18. How did the legacy claimants end up as the invisible people in the benefits system ?

    George M.

    December 14, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    • Perhaps it’s a case of ‘out of sight, out of mind’ George? I’m sure the DWP would like to just sweep the long-term unemployed under the carpet. They could lay an annual wreath at the tomb of the unknown doley.


      December 14, 2020 at 6:27 pm

  19. [Covid19] Benefit Sanctions and Conditionality and the DWP ‘Discretion Framework’


    Claimant’s work-related activity
    Sanction referrals must only be considered if a claimant cannot provide any evidence of work search or fails to undertake
    work-related activities.
    When considering a possible sanction referral, the work coach must gather evidence and review any changes in the
    claimant’s circumstances taking into account:
     complex needs
     vulnerabilities
     health conditions
     pandemic (for example, COVID-19)
    See Complex needs.
    If the work coach feels that the claimant has not taken reasonable steps to search for work, they must gather information
     what the claimant has done
     why the claimant has not done more
    This information must then be taken into the team leader case conference.


    December 14, 2020 at 3:06 pm

  20. Adult Education in Gloucestershire About Us Coronavirus Update
    Coronavirus Update
    Following local Government advice for the UK to go back into lockdown from Thursday 5th November, we are pleased to announce that Adult Education will remain open.We have been open since September 1st, and we have successfully continued to run all of your favourite courses in line with the Government guidelines.

    We still encourage all enquiries to be made via our free phone number 0800 542 1655 or via our social media channels to limit walk ins. A list of all our courses both face to face and online can be found here:

    Our opening days and times are:

    Monday 9:30 – 17:00
    Tuesday 9:30 – 17:00
    Wednesday 9:30 – 15:00
    Thursday 9:30 – 17:00
    Friday 9:30 – 17:00

    Please adhere to the following guidance when entering our centre:

    Please wear a face covering at all times, you will not be expected to wear one when settled in your seat in your classroom (If you don’t have one, one can be provided for you).
    We do register all your details when entering the building, but you can also use the track and trace QR code we have around the building.
    We have a one way system around the centre in which you must adhere to and remain at least 2 metres away from others at all times.
    We have various sanitation points and we will ask all of our visitors to wash/sanitise their hands regularly.
    All learners must bring their own stationary if possible, although we will provide one if you do not have one. You may bring your own drinks, as we will not have this facility available to you.
    All materials for your learning will be provided for you and sanitised prior to your session.
    As per Government guidelines, you must not attend the centre if you’re feeling unwell, and if you’re showing any symptoms of Covid-19 then you must book in for a test.
    We look forward to continuing to support you, please stay safe.

    what a joke everywhere was closed yet they kept the cash rolling in!


    December 14, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    • Adult Education classes? There hasn’t been any of that for years in my area, all that stopped long ago. There used to be all sorts of courses you could do at evening classes at one time; Languages, Pottery/Arts, Genealogy, Basic Auto Mechanics/Car Maintenance, Creative Writing, Yoga, Flower Arranging, Woodwork, etc. Free on Benefits too. Haven’t heard of anything like that being available for many years.


      December 14, 2020 at 3:25 pm

      • DSC_0273_03


        its just any old crap they can think of down that dump to extract the cash.


        December 14, 2020 at 3:38 pm

      • “Mindful sleeping” LOL

        There used to be computer classes, cookery, photography and all sorts. I did GCSE Art at Adult Education evening classes years ago and Beginners German, and Iyenga Yoga. My father went to evening classes to learn Urdu. There’s nothing like that now.


        December 14, 2020 at 4:00 pm

      • All gone here too.

        Continuing education, adult education, that went years ago.

        There are of course expensive courses, evening and part time, at Suffolk University, for those who want to buy further qualifications.

        Andrew Coates

        December 14, 2020 at 4:20 pm

  21. Universal Credit should have been designed with people who have experience of the system says Joseph Rowntree Foundation


    I’d say it shouldn’t have been designed at all. Monthly payments of multiple Benefits lumped together into one lump sum and subjected to ludicrous conditions underpinned by Sanctions was a massive and completely unnecessary mistake. There was nothing wrong with the Social Security system we had in the 1970s under the DHSS.


    December 14, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    • @trev – And the old DHSS system was run under a conpletely different basis. They couldn’t just leave people with absolutely nothing. There were always some emergency payments to be had. But then that is the whole difference between the old DHSS system, which was about ‘social security’, and the new Universal Credit one. Which is much more about deterrence, discipline and control.

      Jeff Smith

      December 14, 2020 at 5:42 pm

      • That’s right Jeff, the entire notion of Social Security has been replaced by Applied Nudge Theory.


        December 14, 2020 at 5:46 pm

  22. This is from the Department for Social Protection, the Irish equivalent of the DWP. If they can do that in Ireland why not here too? But perhaps from age 60 instead of 62.

    “if you are claiming Jobseeker’s Benefit or Jobseeker’s Allowance and are aged 62 or over, you will no longer be required to engage with the compulsory activation process (see below) and you will not be subject to penalty rates for non-engagement.”

    …”In addition, most jobseekers aged 62 or over will be placed on a yearly signing arrangement with their Intreo Centre or local Social Welfare Branch Office (this means that they do not need to sign on regularly) and most will be transferred to Electronic Fund Transfer (EFT) payments so payment can be made directly into their bank account.”



    December 14, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    • P.S.

      The “Activation process” means back-to-work schemes and jobsearch etc.

      “the activation process which might include education or training schemes, employment support schemes to help them back into the workplace, internships and other supports.”


      December 14, 2020 at 8:24 pm

  23. fiat currency is a ponzi scheme it is not worth anything! the debt will never be paid and only get bigger and bigger.


    December 14, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    • Intersting one superted.

      Those who have retired are having to work due to no pernsions!


      December 15, 2020 at 9:38 am

  24. ” The (Dark) Triade is a mixture of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy.”

    Universal Credit fraud is one thing but here’s an article about an even bigger fraudster….

    •Donald Trump: A Faking It Special will be available to stream on discovery+ from Saturday December 12.



    December 14, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    • Bulshit!!


      December 15, 2020 at 9:40 am

      • Oh yeah I forgot you Rightwingnuts are all Trump fans, he’s not a fraudster at all, he’s ad honest as the day is ling, never utters an untrue word, and certainly not a psychopathic sex offender, oh no, not good ol’ Trump….hahahaha


        December 15, 2020 at 11:50 am

  25. windows 10 pro needs at least one or 2 antivirus downloads a month to be protected pmsl


    December 14, 2020 at 11:46 pm

  26. How very nice of Kermit the frog (Gates) to tell us when we can all get back to normal. He is a software developer and should stop pretending to be a doctor.


    December 15, 2020 at 9:27 am

  27. New on line laws are coming next year, many people have alreay experiened some.


    December 15, 2020 at 10:24 am

  28. Convid21 on the way, a new strain of the bogey virus is waiting in the wings to be used to justify another harsh lockdown, prob more punitive this time and the prolonged wearing of gob gussets, and antisocial distancing!


    December 15, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    • Yet more Covid-denial from Tigerlily.


      December 15, 2020 at 1:09 pm

      • @trev- Have you noticed how this blog, which used to be about welfare issues, is now more a medical blog about viral infection ?

        Jeff Smith

        December 15, 2020 at 1:36 pm

      • It’s become a hot-bed of Covid-denial, anti-vax, anti-lockdown conspiracy theories, which I feel duty-bound to refute because the truth is paramount.


        December 15, 2020 at 1:41 pm

      • Here are the published Benefits payment dates for the Christmas period, it lists Universal Credit, ESA, PIP, Child Benefit and Tax Credit, but no mention whatsoever of JSA.



        December 15, 2020 at 1:38 pm

  29. We Three Kings From PPE

    Jingle Face Mask Bells All The Way

    Away In A Bubble Manger

    Silent Bubble Lockdown Night

    On The 1st Day Of Bubble Rap Christmas


    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 15, 2020 at 3:40 pm

    • Haha 😆 welcome back Stepping!

      And lest we forget at this Season of goodwill, how the Salvation Army collaborated with the our enemy the Tories by taking part in Workfare, leading to people getting Sanctioned.


      December 15, 2020 at 3:52 pm

      • Trev @ I have had the new illness the Brussel Sprouts Flu to go which the Turkey Bird Flu. How did you make that gravy !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        December 15, 2020 at 4:55 pm

      • Is that how you make gravy !!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        December 15, 2020 at 5:06 pm

      • The only gravy is on the lucrative gravy train that the Restart Providers will be riding, and no stuffing. Have you had Flu or Covid?


        December 15, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    • @stepping razor sound system: Master Stepping returns with his unique zen insights.


      December 15, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    • Stepping our skl did a socially distanced rendition of the 12 days of xmas, on the whatever day of xmas covid gave to me,,,with volunteers singing their line, eg 3 tier system, 5 toilet rolls, we dressed up and we’re dramatic, I volunteered, my line was 12 hand sanitizers, my ” mic” was a bottle of…. guess what?


      December 19, 2020 at 8:37 pm

  30. For all you Legacy claimants out there.

    Migration Notice

    jj joop

    December 15, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    • “Fol owing the outbreak of COVID-19, and the significant increase in the size of the Universal
      Credit caseload, the decision was taken to temporarily suspend the Move to UC pilot in the
      area served by Harrogate Jobcentre, as part of the Government’s wider and ongoing
      response to the pandemic. As a result, the migration notice being supplied is not currently
      being issued to any legacy benefit claimants”

      Every cloud has a silver lining!

      Harrogate, you may remember, was chosen as the pilot area for UC Migration, so if it’s not happening there it won’t be happening anywhere else either.


      December 15, 2020 at 4:40 pm

  31. ” Good Morning Superted….. A corrupt western government has implemented a new system of welfare benefits, called Universal Credit.This system is supposed to get the unemployed into work, but in reality is a covert channel for diverting millions of pounds to private enterprise firms. Your mission Superted, should you choose to accept it, is to attempt to join the Work & Health Programme. And using your extensive knowledge of welfare regulations, to destroy it from within.
    As always, should you or any of your IM Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions…. This tape will self-destruct in five seconds.’’

    Jeff Smith

    December 15, 2020 at 4:39 pm

    • @jeff smith – Nice one Jeff ! Sometimes I think you are the only one with a sense of humour on here. The blog is full of these super-serious types grimly posting links against each other.

      George M.

      December 15, 2020 at 4:50 pm

    • all everyone needs to do is stop signing there paperwork/contracts and they would all be gone.

      it is mandatory to attend a providers office for induction but not to sign anything.


      December 15, 2020 at 4:56 pm

  32. Modern britain and food banks.


    The revised payment dates listed below are for State Pension, Pension Credit, Employment and Support Allowance or Incapacity Benefit, Jobseeker’s Allowance, Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payments, and Carer’s Allowance.

    Payment due: Wednesday, December 25. Payment sent: Tuesday December 24.
    Payment due: Thursday, December 26. Payment sent: Tuesday December 24.
    Payment due: Wednesday, January 1. Payment sent: Tuesday, December 31.



    December 15, 2020 at 4:45 pm

    • Those dates must be from a previous year, December 25th is a Friday this year.


      December 15, 2020 at 5:14 pm

    • Just 24 hours in it.


      December 15, 2020 at 5:18 pm

  33. Tier 8 at the DWP where the rules keep changing from day to day. The DWP are still in Tier 8 when tyhe rest of the country is in Tier 23. It may be that forever blowing bubbles in bubbles was a West Han Utd bubble in football tiers stadiums or is Michael Jackson’s monkey bubbles still alive to support bubbles. More bubbles as the champagne corks pop to celebrate being in bubbles.

    Is the DWP having a Christmas Office Party at Caxton House !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 15, 2020 at 5:03 pm

    • It’s Christmas *baubles* Stepping not bubbles!


      December 15, 2020 at 5:16 pm

  34. So the ATOS contract is going to get more expensive in Brexit with tariffs being a French company. A lot of European contractors the DWP are using.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 15, 2020 at 5:13 pm

  35. Fresh fears for BBC licence fee as minister calls for ‘alternative funding’ deal

    Culture Minister John Whittingdale believes the £157.50 annual charge is doomed

    Why because watching bbc on freeview is free!



    December 15, 2020 at 6:16 pm

  36. Andrew Coates

    December 15, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    • Not to worry, Sunak’s new Restart scheme will solve the problem of mass unemployment by forcing elderly long-term unemployed people to sit in a classroom writing CVs and practising mock interviews….then comes Brexit…


      December 15, 2020 at 11:08 pm

      • everyone should play them at there own game and declare bankruptcy 60m in one day. 😉


        December 15, 2020 at 11:36 pm

      • Well if there’s no jobs and millions unemployed they’re going to have to come up with something better than the present system of Jobcentres, useless schemes, conditionality, sanctions, ludicrous jobsearch expectations and requirements, blah blah. Either Unconditional Basic Income, early Retirement, or annual signing for Benefits without stupid punitive conditions. Or give people extra Benefits for doing some part time voluntary work, or more allotments to grow vegetables and get your dole for doing it. Covid + Brexit is going to be a game changer.


        December 15, 2020 at 11:57 pm

      • And the homeless too will no doubt double or much more everywhere.


        December 16, 2020 at 8:08 am

  37. No deal Brexit?


    December 16, 2020 at 1:34 pm

  38. Legacy migration in East Anglia


    “Since the outbreak of COVID-19, the volume of claims to Universal Credit has risen significantly, and therefore the migration of legacy benefit claimants onto Universal Credit (which we call ‘Move to UC’) across the country remains suspended as part of the Government’s wider and ongoing response to the pandemic.”

    jj joop

    December 16, 2020 at 2:00 pm

  39. UN agency to feed hungry children in the UK for first time in 70-year history

    ultimately a longer-term solution is needed to tackle the root causes of food poverty,



    December 16, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    • Incredible. This is a damning indictment of a decade of Tory rule and the result of their policies. Boris Johnson should be made to resign over this, in fact a General Election is called for as well as Criminal proceedings against all concerned; Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings, Therese May, David Cameron, George Osborne, Iain Duncan Smith, Lord Freud. They all belong behind bars.


      December 16, 2020 at 5:53 pm

  40. I’m A Celebrity Politician Stuck In A Lift Without A Phone Signal Get Me Out Of Here !

    Which Part Of The Lift Are We Going To Use As The Toilet Get Us Out Of Here !

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 16, 2020 at 6:24 pm

  41. Boris Johnson has urged people to keep Christmas celebrations “short” and “small” to reduce the risk of spreading Covid over the festive period.

    Restrictions will still be relaxed between 23 and 27 December – but the PM said people should “think hard” before meeting friends and family.


    Nothing about New Years Eve then yet !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 16, 2020 at 6:28 pm

    • New Years eve celebrations are cancelled.


      December 16, 2020 at 8:49 pm

  42. Deaths registered in the year-to-date
    There were 425,972 deaths registered in England and 27,112 in Wales during the first nine months (January to September) of 2020.

    To gain a better idea of year-to-year differences in mortality rates, we calculated year-to-date age-standardised mortality rates (ASMR) based on deaths registered between 1 January and 30 September in each year from 2001 to 2020 (Figure 7). For England, the year-to-date age-standardised mortality rate for 2020 was 1,038.1 deaths per 100,000 people, which was statistically significantly higher than all years between 2009 and 2019. For Wales, the year-to-date age-standardised mortality rate for 2020 was 1079.2 deaths per 100,000 people. This was significantly higher than the first nine months of 2019 (a particularly low year), but not significantly different from 2018.


    In 2019, there were 530,841 deaths registered in England and Wales, a decrease of 2.0% compared with 2018 (541,589 deaths).

    In 2018, there were 505,859 total deaths in England and 34,406 in Wales

    There were 533,253 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2017, a 1.6% increase from 2016 and the highest number registered annually since 2003.

    There were 525,048 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2016, a decrease of 0.9% after the large increase seen in 2015.

    There were 529,655 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2015, an increase of 5.6% compared with 2014.

    There were 501,424 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2014, compared with 506,790 in 2013 (a fall of 1.1%)

    There were 499,331 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2012, compared with 484,367 in 2011 (a rise of 3.1%)

    the numbers dont lie deaths this year are at normal levels same as the last 5 years there is no massive increase like msm and government agenda is saying the death rate is the same as the flu.


    December 16, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    • Superted you know some people won’t beieve it.


      December 17, 2020 at 4:28 am

    • Seasonal flu rehashed as covid 19, quite ingenious if you think about it.


      December 17, 2020 at 7:30 am

      • @ Cloverleaf

        No it’s not the flu !

        “If you imagine flu mortality each year, in a fairly average flu year there will be 7,000 deaths nationally, and on a fairly good going flu year without real significance or note there could be 20,000 deaths from flu.

        “The deaths nationally from Covid exceed that nationally already (65,200 as of the week ending October 30) so that gives you an idea of scale and how Covid affects people.”



        December 17, 2020 at 7:52 am






        December 17, 2020 at 9:52 am

    • You have to be both an Health expert and an expert in Statistical Analysis to correctly interpret the figures, which Superted isn’t.

      Main points
      •Of all death occurrences between January and August 2020, there were 48,168 deaths due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) compared with 13,619 deaths due to pneumonia and 394 deaths due to influenza.
      •Influenza and pneumonia was mentioned on more death certificates than COVID-19, however COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death in over three times as many deaths between January and August 2020.
      •The highest number of deaths due to influenza and pneumonia occurred in January 2020, however influenza and pneumonia deaths were below the five-year average (2015 to 2019) in every month.
      •Deaths due to COVID-19 were higher than deaths due to influenza and pneumonia between March and June.
      •Age-standardised and age-specific mortality rates for deaths due to COVID-19 were statistically significantly higher than mortality rates due to influenza and pneumonia when compared with the five-year average and 2020 rates.
      •The proportion of deaths occurring in care homes due to COVID-19 was almost double the proportion of deaths due to influenza and pneumonia (30.0% and 15.2% respectively).
      •In comparison with the deaths due to influenza and pneumonia occurring in the year to 31 August 2020, deaths due to COVID-19 have been higher than every year monthly data are available (1959 to 2020).

      Statistician’s comment

      “More than three times as many deaths were recorded between January and August this year where COVID-19 was the underlying cause compared to influenza and pneumonia.”

      “The mortality rate for COVID-19 is also significantly higher than influenza and pneumonia rates for both 2020 and the five-year average.”

      “Since 1959, which is when ONS monthly death records began, the number of deaths due to influenza and pneumonia in the first eight months of every year have been lower than the number of COVID-19 deaths seen, so far, in 2020.”

      Sarah Caul, Head of Mortality Analysis


      Understanding changes to mortality during the pandemic




      December 17, 2020 at 7:37 am

      • And you are neither.


        December 17, 2020 at 10:33 am

      • @ Cloverleaf

        “you are neither”

        Exactly. That’s why I follow the advice of the experts and public health officials instead of attempting ‘Heath Robinson’ analysis of my own.


        December 17, 2020 at 4:35 pm

  43. Tesco supermarket encourages staff to ignore Test and Trace advice for fear of losing their jobs.

    Tesco shelf stacker was sacked because he was forced to self-isolate.

    In the Tesco-headed letter,, I am writing to confirm the end of your temporary contract with Tesco Stores Ltd.

    “Your last working day with us will be 30 November, 2020.

    “You have not attended work since 23 November due to self-isolation.



    December 17, 2020 at 9:48 am

  44. Someone seems to think they are the head master in school telling the kids to behave and believe what they are told or else they will know about it.

    Thank …. I don’t have kids. it’s no wonder why so many parents are teaching thier kids at home.


    December 17, 2020 at 10:57 am

    • It’s not me you need to obey you fucking moron, it is the Government, the NHS, and Public Health England and all their Scientists, Doctors, Advisers and Medical experts, who disseminate vital information via reliable and legitimate news outlets not crackpot conspiracy websites and discredited maverick quacks. Covid-denial and anti-lockdown propaganda is a form of anti-social behavior that I believe should be punishable by Law. By posting bullshit and falsehoods about the pandemic you are letting everyone down and putting your comrades at risk.


      December 17, 2020 at 3:24 pm

  45. Correct ✅


    December 17, 2020 at 11:18 am

  46. Cloverleaf

    December 17, 2020 at 11:50 am

  47. Fraud victims’ pay deducted for money they don’t owe

    Jo spent hours trying to get through to the DWP helpline to let them know that she’s never applied for universal credit let alone received an advance.

    When she told the DWP that she’d heard that a lot of this type of fraud was happening she was told “not to believe everything you read on Facebook”



    December 17, 2020 at 12:46 pm

  48. 2024 Not much has changed, only Smart Face Masks.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 17, 2020 at 2:17 pm

  49. trev

    December 17, 2020 at 3:16 pm

  50. Rishi Sunak extends furlough scheme for another month



    December 17, 2020 at 3:36 pm

  51. Covid-denial is a slap in the face to every Care worker and all NHS staff, an insult to all those who have lost loved ones or have battled with ill health caused by the Covid virus. It is an insult to all those who have followed the rules, sacrificed their freedoms to protect themselves and others. Covid-denial is a betrayal.


    December 17, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    • Crikey Trev, you ought to become a script writer for Jackboot and mangycock!


      December 17, 2020 at 4:51 pm

  52. DWP signs legally binding agreement to improve equality and diversity in the workplace

    In its judgement, the Employment Tribunal recommended that the DWP pay out more than £386,000 in compensation and seek assistance from the EHRC in reviewing its equality and diversity training to ensure it was effectively implemented throughout the organisation



    December 17, 2020 at 3:46 pm

  53. It will be fun and games when the furlong ends. I just hope some people who end up having to go to one of these providers telling the advisors where to go, being told how to write a cv. even though the person may have had twenty year solid work history as a manager who hired people but lost their job due to covid19

    There have never been a decent sceme, even back in the day of new deal where we sent to a provider for 13 weeks solid, flexible new deal, the work proramme etc.


    December 17, 2020 at 5:00 pm

    • i cant see them opening back up until way after the furlong ends as will need to processes them all and if the vote in another 6 months of emergency powers for another 6 months could be 2022 b4 they are up and going as normal again.

      we wont be signing on any time soon put it that way 😉


      December 17, 2020 at 6:50 pm

      • In the meantime, what are they going to do with all these new work coaches? And who is going to clean the chairs after every appointment? I had the flu jab last week and I had to stand throughout. The nurse asked me not to sit down because the chair has to be thoroughly cleaned if it’s sat on. England’s chief medical officer, Professor Chris Whitty, was quoted in the paper today as say that it is going to be a long time until social distancing can end.

        No, we won’t be going in anytime too soon.

        jj joop

        December 17, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  54. Andrew Coates

    December 17, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    • More on the story

      Jacob Rees Mogg says Unicef should be ‘ashamed’ for feeding Britain’s hungry kids



      December 17, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    • If the Tories have reduced poverty as ‘Lord Snooty’ (Mogg) claims then why are there thousands more people using the foodbanks and why are foodbanks breaking all records in terms of supply and demand? At my local foodbank we have had the busiest year on record, partly due to Covid, but referrals increased dramatically in recent years as Universal Credit was rolled out in the area.


      December 19, 2020 at 2:29 pm

  55. Watch out for a mallet coming to bash you! i.e. pay up.

    Households to be ‘clobbered’ with council tax rises as councils face funding black hole



    December 17, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    • yet the government could bail out all the councils yet choose not to as policy! and there agenda not to so have to hammer the slaves for the extra tax revenue.

      UK says COVID-19 ‘Test and Trace’ system cost to rise to 22 billion pounds


      that must be the most expensive app in the world that does not work and why would you make it work when that sort of cash is involved like every government it project to milk it forever.

      go on dragons den with a track and trace app and ask for half the cash up front they could not afford it all put together pmsl

      and look at all the tax that apple and google dont pay in this country which powers every phone on the planet and still get charged 22 billion for a app and all our data from it for free!

      Surprisingly, A Massive And Ongoing Apple Privacy Breach Is Thanks To Apple’s Security Focus


      To break it down: Apple created a system called Gatekeeper, which is designed to ensure that only safe software runs on your Mac. It does that by phoning home to Apple fairly regularly with data on the developer of the apps that you are using. The goal: checking whether they are approved, known good developers who have not released spam or malware.

      That’s security.

      Unfortunately, the makers of Gatekeeper used internet-standard protocols when implementing this security feature, and at the time, that meant sending data unencrypted. Since most developers on the Mac have only a single app, Paul says, that’s as good as sending up a flare with with data on what apps you’re using. Not only was the data sent unencrypted, Gatekeeper intentionally bypasses VPNs, or virtual private networks, which means you can’t hide your activity even if you work fairly hard to.


      December 17, 2020 at 10:46 pm

      • A rise to council tax and gas & electrric means a rise to rent.


        December 18, 2020 at 4:33 am

  56. superted

    December 17, 2020 at 11:17 pm

  57. Supermarket vouchers, winter clothes and money for bills handed out by the Government

    New winter support is being used to provide everything from Christmas hampers to new coats and supermarket vouchers as well as money towards heating bills in an effort to make sure children are warm and fed well

    The rules say at least 80% of the money must go on food, energy and water bills to those in need locally, with 20% available for other costs.

    Eating and heating are the top priorities for the DWP-backed scheme, but that covers a range of possible offers.

    Work and Pensions Secretary Thérèse Coffey said: “No child should have to worry about food or warmth this winter.

    To find out what support your council will be offering this winter, the simplest way is to call them.



    December 18, 2020 at 9:07 am

    • Superted there one for you, so no going cold or hungry! ge all you can!


      December 18, 2020 at 9:25 am

    • This one I suspect is due to the UN


      December 18, 2020 at 9:41 am

  58. Why some people find it easier to believe random completely made up shit from weirdos like David Icke and twaddle written in articles submitted by completely undistinguished and unqualified layman nutcases, posted on loonie as a moonie international websites, rather than properly considered opinions authored by bona fide academically qualified and experienced scientific professionals and experts baffles me.

    I mean how stupid do you have to be to think that there are “chips” in anti-coronvirus inoculations which allow the “authorities” to “trace” and even “control” you from that point on? I mean come on. Get real. Why would the “authorities” need to do something a fantastical and futuristic as that (even if it were possible, which it isn’t) when it’s already a piece of piss to track anybody carrying a mobile phone (and most people do just that habitually these day) from anywhere in the world?

    Let’s come back to earth, guys, and put an end to this kind of nonsense once and for all.

    I’ve been reading the comments above and far too many of them verge on the borderline crazy.


    December 18, 2020 at 2:08 pm

    • Perhaps it’s because WE still have some self respect and WE are still capable of critical thought!


      December 18, 2020 at 3:20 pm

      • What makes you think I was writing about you Tigerlily?


        December 18, 2020 at 3:54 pm

  59. DWP Breach of Commissioner’s rules for Work Coach Recruitment – PCS advice
    17 Dec 2020
    Some members have received letters which tell them: “It is a legal requirement that selection for recruitment to any role in the Civil Service must be on merit on the basis of fair and open competition. This is overseen by the Civil Service Commission who provide assurance that civil servants are selected in this way and to help safeguard an impartial Civil Service

    All of DWP’s Work Coach recruitment in September and October was treated as a single recruitment campaign by the Civil Service Commission. The application form which you submitted to us as your first application was considered and scored but did not score sufficiently highly for you to progress to interview. You were notified of this outcome by email. The score from this initial application should have been applied to your second and any subsequent applications which you made for the September/October Work Coach vacancies as they were all within a single recruitment campaign.

    However due to a system error you were invited to an interview from a later application which you made for the same recruitment campaign and then subsequently made a job offer in error for a Work Coach role.” Members in this situation have been told: “In view of the circumstances DWP does not propose to withdraw your offer of your 12-month employment as a Work Coach and we have agreed with the Civil Service Commission an exception to the normal rules on fair and open competition. However, your continued employment in the role is conditional upon you agreeing that the following additions to your terms and conditions are acceptable to you, as they will apply to your 12-month appointment.”

    PCS advice for members in this situation
    PCS officers met with DWP managers today. We discussed proposals for a fair process to resolve this situation and expect to meet again tomorrow. PCS advice for members in this situation is: DO NOT AGREE to any additions to your terms and conditions of employment until further guidance is provided by PCS.


    December 18, 2020 at 2:51 pm

  60. UK furlough payments extended to April – buying time and silence until the population is led over the cliff when furlough is pulled with no jobs to go to.



    December 18, 2020 at 3:14 pm

  61. Call for action over ‘scandal’ of benefit claimant suicides ignored by DWP



    December 18, 2020 at 4:25 pm

  62. Wales going into tier4 on December 28th and Northern Ireland going into full lockdown for 6 weeks on Christmas Eve, we won’t be far behind, locked down until April!


    December 18, 2020 at 5:05 pm

  63. What’s the wrapping paper? Cotton wool !!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 18, 2020 at 6:39 pm

  64. A DWP spokesperson from Caxton House said …… Does Caxton House hold no responsibility over it’s DWP Department !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 18, 2020 at 6:42 pm

  65. Have the Brexit Face Masks turned up from China Boris !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 18, 2020 at 6:45 pm

  66. How many employees continue to work in gruelling, exploitative conditions?.

    Amazon workers take eight weeks to earn what CEO Jeff Bezos makes in a second

    A new Employment Bill, which ministers said would improve workers’ rights and crack down on ‘zero hours’ contracts was announced in the December 2019 Queen’s Speech.

    But it has yet to appear, and is understood to have been pushed back to 2021.

    According to the GMB Union, between 2015 and 2018, ambulances were called out 600 times to 14 Amazon warehouses in Britain due to workers collapsing.

    One ex-Amazon worker said: “The long hours are really tough. On my last day, a colleague had a suspected heart attack and I had to help shield him with boxes and tell everyone to carry on working to hit their targets.

    An Amazon spokesman said: the usual.



    December 18, 2020 at 7:09 pm

  67. 6.Deaths registered in the year-to-date
    There were 517,148 deaths registered in England and 33,469 in Wales during the first 11 months (January to November) of 2020.


    1.Main points
    In 2019, there were 530,841 deaths registered in England and Wales, a decrease of 2.0% compared with 2018 (541,589 deaths).



    December 19, 2020 at 3:20 pm

  68. “The human cost of coronavirus has continued to mount, with more than 67m cases confirmed globally and more than 1.53m people known to have died.”



    December 19, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    • world population 7.594 billion (2018) so 1.53m is 0.001% so it has the same death rate as the flu and is the same every year and mortality rates for 2020 are at normal levels from 500.000-600.000 for the last 5 years.

      tho the death rate will go up next year not from any virus but poverty debt and the dwp sanctions regime.

      200k are on jsa and we are classed as dead already governments dont give a shit about the ppl or there would be no food banks or sanctions.

      there are billions of pounds available to piss up the wall for there agenda but when it comes to ppl staving to death on the streets they dont give a shit.

      we are just slaves to there system!


      December 19, 2020 at 4:06 pm

      • No it’s far far worse than the flu.


        December 19, 2020 at 4:11 pm

      • yet the mortality rate for 2020 says different the numbers dont lie, if i gave you 5 years worth of deaths and said pick the one year with cov19 you could not tell the difference there is no massive spike in deaths.

        and if you look at the ons data you posted a link to most of the deaths was in lock down April-may.

        also deaths under the age of 65 barley register and most are in the 80+ range.

        public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall)



        December 19, 2020 at 4:24 pm

      • I prefer to trust the experts:

        “More than three times as many deaths were recorded between January and August this year where COVID-19 was the underlying cause compared to influenza and pneumonia.”

        “The mortality rate for COVID-19 is also significantly higher than influenza and pneumonia rates for both 2020 and the five-year average.”

        “Since 1959, which is when ONS monthly death records began, the number of deaths due to influenza and pneumonia in the first eight months of every year have been lower than the number of COVID-19 deaths seen, so far, in 2020.”

        Sarah Caul, Head of Mortality Analysis (ONS)


        December 19, 2020 at 4:33 pm

      • i will count the dead ppl that’s all the data i need to see.

        go watch the stand and see what a real deadly virus can do, dead in 19hrs and 99.9% of the hole world dead in 3 months, and that was the first episode pmsl


        December 19, 2020 at 4:40 pm

      • From the Vanity Fair article about Covid denial in America…

        “…reasons why people fail to recognize how serious this disease is. First, the law of numbers. So far, around 3.5% of the country have knowingly been infected. Of those, 250,000 have died. This is a gargantuan number for an infectious disease in nine months of spread, especially in a developed economy. But it’s also only one in 1,300 Americans. So outside of dense areas, any given person is unlikely to know anyone who died.”

        That’s an aspect that I think might apply to your attitude and beliefs. Of course America is a bigger country and the numbers are higher but it boils down to basically the same thing, you don’t know anybody who’s died of it so you don’t believe it.


        December 19, 2020 at 4:50 pm

  69. No national lockdown, I can continue to work!


    December 19, 2020 at 4:54 pm

  70. no1 it is not a disease and no2 50-60k ppl a year die from from the flu every year which is also a corona virus that mutates every year why the flue jab changes.

    ons mortality rates shows this year is not much different from any other year deaths wise and i said that months ago.

    most ppl that die from it have other underlining problems as the avg deaths are in ppl over 80 years old.

    ppl that have died from just the virus on its own is in the 100s.

    my mum has chronic copd is way over 60 and goes out to the supermarket every day she has not died.

    my m8s dad got it in hospital he was in his 80s after having both legs removed he did not die.

    tho he is a bible basher tho lol.


    December 19, 2020 at 5:05 pm

  71. DWP new Universal Credit benefit payment rates for 2021


    jsa goes up a massive 5p


    December 19, 2020 at 6:12 pm

  72. Xclausx I continued to work until term ended yesterday, terrified for myself and my members. Also, we gave out yet more food parcels to our kids, both the free skl meals kids plus others thought needy, in the guise of surprise draws agains to spare parents feelings
    Outdoor learning didn’t work for our tiniest reception kids, that bubble burst Monday, everyone there sent home. For all the hoo Haa that kids need their education and the poorest are fell further behind, that’s most of our kids being poor, most of last week was all off timetable meaning no real learning. We just went into tier 4 in our SE England town, our head begged the LEAFOR permission to close early, denied.
    My family don’t make a big deal over Xmas, but Boris will go down in history as the Grinch that stole Xmas lol….
    Stay safe all!


    December 19, 2020 at 7:20 pm

  73. Xclausx thanks for the heads up,,! Will certainly pass on


    December 19, 2020 at 8:02 pm

  74. Seeing this, that grants are being given for kids warm coats, and Unicef are feeding starving British kids,is truly harrowing, knowing that kids in our school face these problems, is gut wrenching. When our kitchen staff were out isolating for 2 weeks the Mobile catering services stepped in providing grab bags, basically all kids got every day was a tuna mayo or cheese sandwich and yogurt, same every day, and the cheese had no taste to it. A disaster for our free school meals kids not even getting one hot meal a day. And most of our kids are in that boat. Seeing it in black n white really brings it home. And knowing yet more will be thrown into poverty as this sorry state drags on…..


    December 19, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    • plenty of cash for a train no one can afford to use tho. government policy is not to give a shit and carry on with there agenda regardless, dont forget they wanted these emergency powers for 3 years so dont expect it to change any time soon esp if it gets passed again it will just carry on for years, or could!

      The costs of HS2 were estimated in 2010 to be between £30.9 billion and £36 billion; in 2015, this estimate was combined with the cost of rolling stock to give a budget of £56.6 billion. Oakervee’s review in 2019 estimated the project would cost between £80.7 billion and £88.7 billion.


      December 19, 2020 at 10:25 pm

  75. Cloverleaf

    December 20, 2020 at 11:30 am

  76. Tigerlily

    December 20, 2020 at 11:50 am

  77. And the incessant barrage of Covid-denial continues unabated….


    December 20, 2020 at 12:34 pm

  78. I can see the job centres won’t be open well into next year or 2022, and we get more work coaches


    December 20, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    • Good news indeed, every cloud has a silver lining, keep the dreaded places shut for as long as possible as far as I’m concerned.


      December 20, 2020 at 4:21 pm

  79. Are the Job Centres the new hospitals !!!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 20, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    • New local Hospitals at the Local Job Centre.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      December 20, 2020 at 6:28 pm

      • The Work Roaches will still be cleaning out the Job Centre/Hospital toilets.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        December 20, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    • “Are the Job Centres the new hospitals ?”

      Work is the cure for all ills in Tory Britain, even if there is no work and the longterm unemployed are largely unemployable, if you don’t work you will die and the Tories will see to that like characters in a Dickens novel, with Benefit sanctions, low rates of State Benefits, low wages, high living costs, heating or eating, a trip to the foodbank versus starvation. Mass unemployment, Cholera and Typhoid replaced with Coronavirus, food shortages to come, Brexit No Deal and Victorian Britain is reborn!


      December 20, 2020 at 7:16 pm

      • So the Work Roaches are the new doctors with magic powers !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        December 20, 2020 at 7:32 pm

      • “The magicians tried by their secret arts to produce gnats, but they could not. So there were gnats on man and beast”

        Exodus 8:18


        December 20, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  80. Have you got any Social Distancing Christmas Crackers !!! The other Brexit Trade Deal with China.

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    December 20, 2020 at 6:30 pm

  81. Silent Curfew Night, Silent Lockdown Night


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    December 20, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    • We Wish You A Merry Lockdown Christmas & A Happy Lockdown New Year.


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      December 20, 2020 at 6:33 pm

      • Everyone getting pissed without carol singing !!!

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        December 20, 2020 at 6:34 pm

  82. Pinocchio Hancock has said that we should all act like we have got the virus so we don’t spread the virus, this Jackanory Nobhead wants us to play make believe to fit in with the make believe virus and pandemic!


    December 20, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    • “the make believe virus and pandemic”

      Your continued Covid-denial is very offensive and is a slap in the face to every NHS worker, and to all the families and loved ones of the 60,000+ who have died of Covid in the UK, and to all those survivors left struggling with long-term debilitating post-Covid health issues, and to all those who have sacrificed their freedoms in isolation shielding.


      December 20, 2020 at 9:13 pm

      • No virus has been proven to cause covid19, FOI requests have been sent to health bodies all over the world and all of them have replied with the same response, they don’t hold relevant information for said request, surely they would have some proof if the sars cov2 virus was causing covid19, viruses don’t invade cells they are produced by the cells to flush out toxins, they aren’t alive and cannot travel through the air or live on surfaces and infect you!


        December 20, 2020 at 10:20 pm

      • UK reports highest increase in Covid infections

        If governments of the world hadn’t taken action in terms of facemasks, social distancing and lockdown measures there would probably be tens of millions of deaths by now, maybe 100s of millions. This pandemic is a threat to the very survival of the human race. If you think this is a hoax you need to see a psychiatrist.


        December 20, 2020 at 11:38 pm

      • yet the ons fingers do not support this as they are cases not deaths the mortality rate is all that matters it is nothing more than scare mongering via msm for there agenda.

        this year was normal fact there was no massive spike in deaths for cov19 they are at the same rate as the flu there is not 1 million dead!

        where are all the extra dead ppl ons numbers show this year is in normal range of mortality rates every one could test positive yet deaths are at normal rates for our population because the test is useless no news on track and trace and the troops in Liverpool have vanished from msm pmsl

        if this was a man made hcid virus we would all be dead months ago how many ppl has bought a military grade gas mask or been given one buy government, no one!

        because they cost £300 and a filter is £80 per day and that is reality.


        December 21, 2020 at 12:09 am

      • trev

        December 21, 2020 at 12:22 am

      • “The human cost of coronavirus has continued to mount, with more than 67m cases confirmed globally and more than 1.53m people known to have died.”

        Financial Times


        December 21, 2020 at 12:26 am

      • i only care about the ppl that are dead! ons show the death rate for this year is the same as others there is no massive spike this year fact!

        wake up you are being lied to!




        im still not dead show me your letters or are you not that important as over 60 you are classed as dnr! 😉


        December 21, 2020 at 12:51 am

  83. dont you think it is funny all the mps have fucked off home for Christmas. Brexit going down the toilet with a ongoing pandemic they would stay at there posts for the extra 10k they all got this year.

    yes they care that much they have all fucked off home and dont give a shit, they can fuck up everything and at the end of there stint can walk away with no consequences like a licence to kill and for personnel gain and then sit in the house of lords for the rest of there lives just to have a sleep for a few hrs get pissed and go back home.

    yet we will get a pay rise of jsa next year of 5p and i bet they will cut the extra £20 from uc as wont have any choice as tory policy!


    December 20, 2020 at 10:22 pm

    • Britain labelled “sick man” the comedy continues!

      Port of Dover closed – fears food and NHS supplies to UK could be severely delayed

      Just after Borris J said ‘ new varient of virus in Kent’!!



      December 21, 2020 at 9:25 am

      • “the comedy continues!”

        More of a tragedy I would have thought. It’s hardly a laughing matter. As for “fear based propaganda”, that’s just paranoid nonsense. You don’t seem to understand what a pandemic is, or how countries respond to such an emergency situation. It’s purely about containing and reducing the infection, nothing to do with any alleged “propaganda”.


        December 21, 2020 at 10:04 am

      • How should you talk to friends and relatives or anyone else who believes what they believe.



        December 21, 2020 at 10:31 am



    December 21, 2020 at 9:55 am

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