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DWP MInister Thérèse Coffey on her “Dream Job” and Universal Credit. | Ipswich Unemployed Action.

Coffey: Workers Experienced in Customer Care Can Retrain for New Jobs.

The DWP Minister Thérèse Coffey has stirred up controversy for her latest helpful suggestions.

The Mirror reports,

The government’s welfare chief has prompted fury by suggesting sacked cabin crew can retrain as carers.

Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey claimed thousands of airline staff made redundant after planes were grounded and international travel ground to a halt in the coronavirus crisis should switch careers.

She told The Spectator: “I want to encourage them to perhaps go into teaching or go to college and to be the people who train the next lot of people who are going to do those jobs.”

She added: “How do we help draw out of them the transferable skills that they have, and that could be working in social care?

“It may not be their dream job for the rest of their lives.

“But it may well be very useful: They get more money coming in than if they’re on benefits and it can also provide something really valuable and rewarding.”

Yet Thérèse Coffey has defenders, well, at least one: the person who wrote the article that’s got people hot under the collar..

How Thérèse Coffey plans to help millions back to work

The Work and Pensions Secretary on unemployment, reshuffles and turning cabin crew into nurses

Writing for the popular Alternative View column, Davidus Toricus Spartacus, in the Spectator Katie Ball, née Bollocks (creator of  the podcast, Women with Balls, note, this is not made up) begins by noting, “Many things have gone wrong for the government over the past few months, but the welfare system has (so far) held up. “

My main task has been making sure that DWP runs effectively. Being in the news would probably be a sign that it wasn’t,’ she says over lunch in The Spectator’s boardroom. ‘I’m a great believer in the DWP being boringly brilliant — or brilliantly boring.’ After just 13 months in the job, she has already lasted longer than her last five predecessors.

We hope a ‘good lunch’ – the MP is much-loved in Suffolk Coastal for her support for local hostelries, sacrificing many hours visiting pubs, inns and ale-houses to support their work for the community – and this good feed put her in more than usual good spirits.

She thinks the social care industry could benefit from workers experienced in customer care such as air hostesses. ‘How do we help draw out of them the transferable skills that they have and that could be working in social care? It may not be their dream job for the rest of their lives. But it may well be very useful: they get more money coming in than if they’re on benefits and it can also provide something really valuable and rewarding so there are those sorts of things where we are going to try and help people think through what it is they can do, even if it is only for the next two to three years.’

She also supports Boris Johnson’s enthusiasm for air hostesses to become nurses. ‘I’m sure other cabin crew as well who are male could make equally good nurses. It’s just whether or not people want that as a complete lifestyle change.

Reflecting on issues that concern us, the well-being of her soul, she said,

As a practising Catholic who has missed mass on a Sunday only six times in her life, Coffey is more relaxed than most politicians when it comes to discussing faith. One of the upsides of lockdown, she says, was online church services: ‘We just basically did a tour of the UK. I’ve become quite fond of St George’s in Taunton, the St Gerard Majella in Bristol — very nice priest there. Northampton Cathedral is pretty good. A church crawl is a bit different to a pub crawl, isn’t it?’

We take this fine distinction on the word of a seasoned  veteran of many a tavern and rustic taproom.

Therese Coffey MP appointed Beer Parliamentarian of the Year after visiting all 118 pubs in her constituency

Will she ever be booted out?

She is the second-longest serving Tory work and pensions secretary, but would need to last until the next election to take first place from Iain Duncan Smith. There’s a rumour she confronted the Prime Minister a few months ago at cabinet about reshuffle reports in the press — he told her she wouldn’t be moved anytime soon. When I mention it, she blushes and won’t get into the details of what was discussed, but she does say rumours of hirings and firings are unhelpful, especially in a department where the lifespan of a Secretary of State is measured in weeks and months.

Written by Andrew Coates

October 9, 2020 at 3:13 pm

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  1. This is not going to pay the rents of the premises to start with:

    Andrew Coates

    October 9, 2020 at 3:44 pm

  2. The shops are closed in Tory Town
    And all the shelves are bare
    The unemployed roam through the streets
    The government didn’t care

    The factories are empty
    The whistle doesn’t sound
    The machinery lies rusting
    And scatttered on the ground

    The trains are stopped
    Upon the tracks
    Airplanes upon the ground
    Now nothing moves
    It’s dead, it’s stopped
    And no-one is around.

    The wind blows cold through Tory Town
    A freezing, harsh despair
    For a government that did nothing
    And the Tories that didn’t care

    Random Poet

    October 9, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    • Not as good as your poem, but:

      Andrew Coates

      October 9, 2020 at 3:55 pm

    • The bloody pies are bloody old
      The bloody chips are bloody cold
      The bloody beer is bloody flat
      The bloody flats have bloody rats
      The bloody clocks are bloody wrong
      The bloody days are bloody long
      It bloody gets you bloody down
      Evidently Lockdown
      The bloody train is bloody late
      You bloody wait you bloody wait
      You’re bloody lost and bloody found
      Stuck in fucking Lockdown

      Edgar Allan Poe

      October 9, 2020 at 5:13 pm

  3. For a start caring for the elderly is a vocation rather than a job that anybody can slot in to. You need patience, fortitude, compassion, character, conscientiousness, courage, a good level of physical fitness and a whole basket of other qualities to care for the infirm and the elderly, particularly those afflicted with mental or neurological problems like Alzheimer’s or any of the other equally tragic dementias. Not everybody can do it; very few can in practice.

    Therese Coffey?

    She’s not right is she?

    Not by a long chalk if you ask me.

    Reminds me of what George Osborne said about his abortive “Help to Work” scheme where the unemployed were going to be made to “make food for the elderly” and suchlike. It didn’t seem to occur to him that to do things like this people need a DBS check and that no relatives of the elderly people supposed to consume food prepared for them by forced labour, recruited from the ranks of the jobless, actually wanted their nearest and dearest living in retirement homes to be nourished in such a way.

    It’s frightening when slips like Coffey’s reveal how utterly fucking moronic such people are at their core.

    Ajna

    October 9, 2020 at 4:00 pm

  4. They always make something sound easy but thats never the case.No experience certificates checks and other qualifications take the number of vacancies lower that can be applied for thats not an easy job for everyone with end of life and other job tasks.

    ken

    October 9, 2020 at 6:06 pm

  5. Some areas are really bad an its probably mass unemployment elsewhere too.

    Hull’s unemployment benefit claims at highest city has ever seen

    Nearly one-in-ten are out of work

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-unemployment-claims-highest-seen-4588530

    ken

    October 9, 2020 at 6:30 pm

  6. Sadly though, the unemployed could be “nudged” into these care jobs on threat of sanctions, and I agree totally it’s a vocation, and it would be horrible for the elderly person if their carer threw up having to change their incontinence pad! Careers have my full respect,!

    Kat Rehman

    October 9, 2020 at 6:44 pm

  7. There certainly appears to be no master plan for dealing either with the coronavirus, or the mass unemployment, or even Brexit. It’s just finger in the dyke stuff every time.

    Hans Brinker

    October 9, 2020 at 6:47 pm

  8. You can see why Therese Coffey was regarded as a safe pair of hands for the DWP. This kind of unthinking belief in right-wing conservatism, and the same sort of empty rhetoric as her boss. I’m sure she really does believe that people can just transfer to another job, and then that’s it. Problem solved.

    Jeff Smith

    October 9, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    • I’m sure you’re right.

      Also Suffolk Coastal, while in fact with many towns only just over an hour and a half to a couple of hours from London by train, is an enclave quite removed from the problems urban areas face, not to mention industrial places.

      2019 election:

      The result in full:

      – Therese Coffey (Con) 32,958

      – Cameron Matthews (Lab) 12,425

      – Jules Ewart (LibDem) 8,719

      – Rachel Smith-Lyte (Green) 2,713

      – Tony Love (Ind) 1,493

      Turnout: 71.4%

      Coffey Majority of 20,533

      It is, I add, quite different socially to Ipswich……

      Andrew Coates

      October 9, 2020 at 7:36 pm

      • March 1933 German federal election 17,277,180 + 3,136,760 DNVP

        Weimar Trev

        October 12, 2020 at 3:23 am

  9. Grotbag is just another useful idiot who is paid not to think but to just follow the script… Bet the greedy sack of shite is pulling a pint for itself, which it won’t be paying for!

    Tigerlily

    October 9, 2020 at 7:39 pm

  10. Universal Credit: DWP issue new guidance on debt repayments and deductions – full details
    UNIVERSAL Credit claimants can have money taken off their payments if they have certain debts to pay back. New guidance has been issued from the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) on how this system works.

    https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1345660/universal-credit-dwp-guidance-debt-repayments-deductions

    superted

    October 9, 2020 at 8:26 pm

  11. Thérèse Coffey plans to help her save her job by doing some work, all too little too late.

    Thérèse Coffey sacked DWP Minister failure.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 9, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System is a convicted Conservative Party member. He donates money on a regular basis to the Conservative Party.

      Harvey Proctor

      October 10, 2020 at 1:01 am

  12. MPs could receive a pay rise of over £3,000 a year from next April under new proposals from the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority.

    IPSA is the independent body responsible for overseeing MPs’ pay, pensions and expenses.

    It says the rise was calculated using the same method as in recent years.

    But some MPs have expressed unease about being awarded a pay rise at a time when many of their constituents are facing economic uncertainty.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 9, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    • They’re already on £85 grand aren’t they? No pay rise for MPs until JSA/ESA is increased to £94.

      trev

      October 9, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    • Grow up, fuck off, and stop using my name you moron.

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 5:15 pm

  13. Poll: Save Thérèse Coffey From DWP Sacking

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 9, 2020 at 9:07 pm

  14. Poll: Sack Thérèse Coffey From The DWP

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 9, 2020 at 9:09 pm

  15. https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

    so much for a conspiracy theory turns out it was true!

    superted

    October 9, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    • New Champions

      “World Economic Forum New Champion companies are dynamic high-growth companies that are championing new business models, emerging technologies, and sustainable growth strategies in the Fourth Industrial Revolution. New Champions are mindful of their impact on society and aspire to participate in building a better future.”

      https://www.weforum.org/about/new-champions

      trev

      October 9, 2020 at 10:02 pm

      • You’re so full of shit you make Stepping Razor sound sane.

        Sue Denim

        October 9, 2020 at 10:06 pm

      • Thanks, I take that as a compliment! It’s my mission in life to annoy fuckwits like you.

        trev

        October 9, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    • When I was a boy I used to pleasure myself while fantasising about Alexandra in a two piece.

      trev

      October 10, 2020 at 9:20 am

      • That comment was posted by a different”trev” other than myself.

        trev

        October 10, 2020 at 11:26 am

      • @ Percy

        Which “trev” are you addressing? It wasn’t my comment, it was posted by a moronic troll pretending to be me for reasons best known to himself, probably someone who gets a perverse kick out of ruining a blog thread and spoiling it for others out of a need to feel powerful and in control.

        trev

        October 10, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    • Schwab is not of sound mind!

      Tigerlily

      October 10, 2020 at 3:04 pm

  16. The Care sector is in a right state, who would want to go into that line of work? Many Care workers are overworked and underpaid, and don’t even get sick pay apart from SSP.

    trev

    October 9, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    • that’s what happens when you put profit b4 ppl as a private company you are only a profit unit to them same as providers.

      superted

      October 9, 2020 at 9:26 pm

      • Care work ought to be Nationalized and provided by the NHS. Trouble is Boris & Co. are in the process of flogging our NHS to the Americans. Well done to all those who voted Tory, give yourselves a pat on the back.

        trev

        October 9, 2020 at 9:49 pm

      • in new York if a ambulance scrapes you off the road in a rta if you do not have health insurance it is $5000+ for a slight bang on the head and a few tests!

        superted

        October 9, 2020 at 10:00 pm

      • Health care and social care should be fused together to provide a full cradle to grave service, with social care funded by central government rather than local government so that everybody can enjoy the same level of service wherever they live in the UK. There should be a Department of Health and Care to oversee a National Health and Care Service rather than a Department of Health with local authorities scrabbling around to buy second-rate cut-price care, from the private sector, for elderly residents.

        Footlong

        October 10, 2020 at 12:17 pm

  17. Clever Trevor

    October 9, 2020 at 9:44 pm

  18. Ex- Cineworld staff too, because directing people to their seats and selling popcorn is very similar to being responsible for vulnerable Geriatric residents in need of vital care.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/cineworld-staff-could-become-care-workers-says-work-and-pensions-secretary-there/

    trev

    October 10, 2020 at 12:10 am

  19. Coffey thinks there’s nothing to worry about, there won’t be any mass unemployment and the Welfare system is operating so smoothly it wouldn’t matter anyway. Nothing to see here, everything’s fine and under control….

    https://www.ft.com/content/ee64dded-300e-4893-a3f0-78bacd648816

    trev

    October 10, 2020 at 12:20 am

    • If the tories thought that they wouldnt be raising the new furlough plans from a third to two thirds.

      Doug

      October 10, 2020 at 8:32 am

  20. Crap wages well below what nurses get, crap hours and often a reliance on personal transport or mini cabs are the precise reason many choose not to go into caring.

    Finances are tight, peoples credit maxed out so what is the logical step when looking for new work.
    The answer is take a zero hour one with the least amount of responsibility so you still have plenty of time to look for a proper one thats cost effective and earns a real wage that lets face it, caring never ever will.

    Cabin crew are for the most part under achievers and or people who require constant change even when they have kids. Hardly does this fit the model of static roles like teaching and care work.

    Doug

    October 10, 2020 at 8:30 am

    • @doug; We’re not underachievers, many cabin staff these days are graduates. It’s a skilled job with a lot of responsibility.

      BA Cabin Crew

      October 10, 2020 at 12:47 pm

  21. With the economy growing anaemically – 2% growth after a 20% contraction – and looking likely to stall in the next quarter where are all these jobs in “growth areas” supposed to come from? Where is the economy growing at all? Business is shedding workers left, right and centre not taking them on. What the hell is Coffey talking about?

    Cordwainer

    October 10, 2020 at 9:18 am

    • Coffey is reacting like a typical Tory, she’s not experiencing any poverty herself or worry of being unemployed, the problems don’t affect her personally therefore there are no problems. Tories have a Psychopathic/Sociopathic mentality.

      trev

      October 10, 2020 at 12:54 pm

  22. This remains an issue.

    Andrew Coates

    October 10, 2020 at 9:29 am

    • There are so many places in the UK that don’t have broadband or is very slow. Money can’t buy UC.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 10, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    • A car owner is an other necessary today.

      ken

      October 10, 2020 at 3:22 pm

      • That comment was posted by a different “trev” other than myself, some wanker who enjoys wasting everyone’s time.

        trev

        October 10, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    • If you want cheap broadband sick a SMARTY sim, which works in a phone or a dongle or similar which enables you to access to the web with a computer. A mere £8.00 a month gets you a massive 35 Gb data allowance valid for a month.

      https://smarty.co.uk

      Scrooge

      October 10, 2020 at 5:28 pm

  23. Everybody work from home with the 2nd lockdown.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 10, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    • Thing with that Ted is it’ll push yet more people into fuel poverty, I read working from home 4 days a week could push your energy bills up another 100 a year…..

      Kat Rehman

      October 11, 2020 at 8:48 pm

      • If you’re self employed you used to be able to claim money back for using home as office, don’t know if that’s still the case, but should apply to employed home workers too.

        trev

        October 11, 2020 at 8:53 pm

      • Self employed or PAYE

        Anything you carryout for an employer that they dont remunerate you for is tax deductible. Internet,electricity, heat, stationary,etc only concerning what is used for work can be claimed for said work area (not whole house).
        Believe it or not it wont yield that much of a return.

        Doug

        October 13, 2020 at 5:13 am

      • It used to be a small percentage off your phone and electric bill. I knew a guy who did it years ago, went self-employed and claimed for “home as office” on his Tax return. I don’t think it was much, maybe 10 or 15%, but that was probably about 15 ago, don’t know what it would be now. Incidentally, the same guy was contacted by the DWP many years later claiming that he owed them money for alleged overpayment of JSA in 2006, luckily he was able to prove that he was self-employed during the dates they quoted and hadn’t even been claiming Benefits at the time!

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 10:23 am

  24. The thing that most people are worried about is their mental health going through another lockdown.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 10, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    • Rinse that credit card out again.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 10, 2020 at 12:13 pm

  25. I don’t suppose anyone in the DWP has looked at the fact that there are already far more unemployed people than job vacancies ?

    Frank Taylor

    October 10, 2020 at 12:51 pm

  26. @frank taylor: That would suggest a level of common-sense unknown in Caxton House. They operate on a fantasy basis, like the Wizard of Oz. And in their version of the unemployment story ,Therese Coffey dances down the Yellow Brick Road, along with the Scarecrow and the Tin Man, to full employment. And when everyone has a job, she just clicks her heels together, and is back in Caxton House in time for tea.

    John Wentford

    October 10, 2020 at 1:08 pm

  27. Clear Caxton House The Manager Has The Virus.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 10, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    • Evacuate Caxton House.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 10, 2020 at 2:52 pm

      • Knowing how useless the DWP are.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 10, 2020 at 2:52 pm

      • Vote DWP Disasters.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 10, 2020 at 5:14 pm

      • Tory HQ Disasters.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 10, 2020 at 5:14 pm

      • That comment was NOT posted by me. I have never voted Tory in my life and never will do. Tories are the scum of the earth, and internet Trolls come a close second.

        trev

        October 10, 2020 at 5:59 pm

      • What about Maxwell House ?

        Gareth Hunt

        October 11, 2020 at 2:09 am

  28. jj joop

    October 10, 2020 at 4:39 pm

    • Bringing Customers Safely into our Virus Jobcentres

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 10, 2020 at 5:15 pm

      • Mango

        Mango

        October 11, 2020 at 2:08 am

      • Chutney.

        Chutney

        October 13, 2020 at 3:17 pm

  29. I had a shock last night while watching Have I Got News for You. I could have sworn that I saw Matthew Hancock and fat lump Therese Coffey “singing” Don’t Stop Me Now and making arseholes of themselves on a stage.

    Searching YouTube located the video.

    Watch at your own risk…

    Mickey Most

    October 10, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    • Christ! Once you see something like that you can’t unsee it. My advice to anybody reading these words would be to NOT watch Hancock and Coffey duet. Now wonder that test and trace isn’t working and that the DWP is fucked.

      Wear Your Trousers High

      October 10, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    • Like the video in the movie The Ring after watching the video above I’m sitting here expecting my phone to ring at any moment.

      Qwerty

      October 10, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    • I miss trev

      Simon

      October 10, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    • Queen ought to sue.

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 4:58 pm

  30. A secret dossier that details one of Britain’s most famous UFO sightings is to be kept secret for another 50 years.It apparently contains incredible colour photos taken in 1990 that allegedly show a 100ft craft hovering over Calvine in the Scottish Highlands.
    A 30-year rule meant the file was meant to be declassified in January next year, but the Ministry of Defence has now blocked its release for another 50 years, until 2072 – Daily Mirror

    What do they know that we don’t ?

    Buck Rogers

    October 10, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    • @Buck Rogers. Why block the release of the dossier on this for another 30 years, if there is nothing in it ?
      There must be some actual reason why they have refused to release these details about the Calvine incident.

      David Russell

      October 11, 2020 at 1:41 pm

  31. Either it’s some kind of secret experimental military craft. Or we have been in contact with an advanced alien race, and the authorities want to keep this secret.

    Graham Trenvale

    October 10, 2020 at 5:35 pm

  32. We need to know why trev was a regular visitor to Rendlesham Forest.

    Nick Pope

    October 10, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    • I have never been to Rendlesham Forest.

      trev

      October 10, 2020 at 6:23 pm

      • I have, many times, and on the UFO Trail. Rendelsham is not far from Ipswich.

        The UFO Walk at Rendlesham Forest Tangham – All Year Round.

        We saw some of you US Patriots there as well, skulking around in the undergrowth – you ran away when we showed our Antifa badges.

        I guess you’ve been moseying down there again.

        “In December 1980 several sightings of a UFO were reported in Rendlesham Forest… Many people think these mysterious events are the most significant UFO incident to have occured in the UK. There is no tangible evidence on the ground, but following the trail with the help of the Forestry Commission’s leaflet (available from the onsite Forest Office) and your imagination, an intriguing picture can be painted. To help your children round the UFO Trail, why not look for the strange symbols on the posts and decode the message with help from the Alien Trail leaflet (also available from the Forest Office)?.”

        https://www.suffolkhideaways.co.uk/whats-on/the-ufo-walk-at-rendlesham-forest

        Andrew Coates

        October 10, 2020 at 7:32 pm

      • There have been many attempts to downplay or dismiss the incident, the BBC once said (on Radio 4 news) that it had been proved to have been a hoax, which is completely untrue, and UFO “expert” Dr. David Clarke claims that what the US Airmen really saw was the beam from a lighthouse, which is frankly preposterous. When Mrs. Thatcher was asked about the incident by a journalist she allegedly replied “UFOs? Oh you can’t tell the people”. Dr. Clarke claims that the story has been embellished over time but the witnesses involved are still on record to this day testifying to the truth of their experiences. When the British UFO files were made public a few years ago the file on Rendlesham was mysteriously absent and was missing presumed to have been accidentally shredded.

        trev

        October 10, 2020 at 7:52 pm

      • In fact I happen to like the area, Tangham in particular.

        The old military base, Bentwaters, is no more; they housing estate sold off; those who live on it complain about the lack of facilities, proper (not corner) shops, and so forth, and obviously you need a car to get anywhere, though in theory there are some buses, but there is the Bentwarters Cold War Museum, presently closed.
        BCWM Logo
        THE BENTWATERS COLD WAR MUSEUM
        The museum is based in the former USAF hardened command post on the former Bentwaters airfield, we believe that currently this is the only such building open regularly to the public in the UK and Europe. The main “war operations room” and “Battle cabin” have been restored to original condition, the BT telephone exchange room, and decontamination showers and airlock are also as original. Other rooms within the building have been turned into exhibition rooms, covering the history of RAF Bentwaters from W.W.II until the base closed in 1993. Included in this are histories of the units that operated form the airfield, particularly the 81st FW

        , http://www.bcwm.org.uk/

        It is said that some sacked former employees of the Museum spent their time tracking down Commies on the Internet……

        Andrew Coates

        October 10, 2020 at 8:07 pm

      • Sounds interesting and worth a visit. I’ll add it to my ‘to do’ list when I’m retired.

        trev

        October 10, 2020 at 8:24 pm

      • Thérèse Coffey UFO – Useless Fat Object.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 11, 2020 at 1:07 pm

      • If Thérèse Coffey, Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and Member of Parliament for Suffolk Coastal, tabled a motion would that be a Coffey table?

        trev

        October 11, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    • The above comment was made by a different “trev” other than myself. Can those responsible please refrain from ‘sock-puppeting’ and only post relevant comments under their own names. Thank you.

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 5:13 pm

    • Now you’re posting under superted’s name, didn’t you read what I said? Refrain from sock-puppeting and post under your own name. Is that difficult for you to understand? Why don’t you behave yourself and post honest and relevant comments without being disruptive and offensive to others? Is there something wrong with you that causes you to be an internet Troll?

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    • If you feed a troll, trev, they will keep coming back for more.

      Best advice: Ignore them and leave the rest to Coates and his delete button.

      The Sage of Hitchen

      October 11, 2020 at 5:34 pm

      • Good advice. The optimist in me sometimes thinks that you can encourage people to face up to their indiscretions and when forced to explain their behaviour realize that they can’t and so cease and desist. A bit like correcting the behavior of a naughty child.

        trev

        October 11, 2020 at 6:08 pm

  33. SAGE and the British Medical Association are pressing for measures to make it compulsory to wear a mask outside!

    Tigerlily

    October 10, 2020 at 6:22 pm

  34. @ Sonnenrad

    Fuck off with your vile Nazi bullshit.

    trev

    October 10, 2020 at 7:57 pm

  35. was that you trev 😉

    superted

    October 10, 2020 at 10:32 pm

    • Not me ted, but I recognize the accent as being Glaswegian in my opinion. Very much reminiscent of Rab C. Nesbitt and also a bloke I used to know who spoke just like that.

      trev

      October 10, 2020 at 10:52 pm

    • Whatever happened to Russ Abbot aka C. U. Jimmy?

      Max

      October 12, 2020 at 9:33 am

  36. Oh God, I’ve just seen the Don’t Stop Me Now video with Coffey and Hancock. It’s beyond awful, Hancock jigging about like some student nerd whose had a few pints, and Coffey swaying away in the background.
    And the audience of Young Tory clones, ghastly. How can people be like this ?

    Jeff Smith

    October 11, 2020 at 1:32 pm

  37. I’ve felt for a long time that Therese Coffey reminded me of someone. One of my friends referred me to Neil Gaiman’s Sandman graphic novel series and whispered “Despair” in my shell-like. And he was correct. Despair of the Endless. I don’t know how to post images here but the link below should show a picture of the Endless. Despair is the ugly fat lump, bottom left corner:

    Kind of appropriate really because since Coffey was appointed Secretary of State for Work and Pensions people depending on benefits have felt nothing but despair.

    Lord Jestacost

    October 11, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    • Going clockwise from Despair the other members of the Endless are Death, Destiny, Dream, Destruction, Desire and Delirium.

      Dicky

      October 11, 2020 at 4:14 pm

      • When I was a bit younger I really fancied Death as a goth chick.

        Duma

        October 12, 2020 at 12:13 pm

      • Me too! I had an eye for Death of the Endless when I was in my teens.

        What better way to leave life than hand in hand with a gorgeous girl?

        Thanatos

        October 12, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    • To be fair though, the despair began the day that Iain Duncan Smith visited Easterhouse in 2002 and the cogs began to turn inside his crazed mind as he experienced his over-ambitious warped Epiphany. A despair realized when David Cameron got the keys to number 10 eight years later. Since then despair has been the order of the day, a shared experience by the poorest and most vulnerable in Society, now to be extended to newly Redundant unemployed middle-Englanders, the flame of despair carried boldly aloft by Therese Coffey. The only lesson to be learned; never, ever, vote Tory under any circumstances whatsoever.

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 4:32 pm

  38. Andrew Coates

    October 11, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    • Can we beat 3 million unemployed with Thatcher.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 11, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    • ‘Massive holes’

      “four thousand holes in Blackburn Lancashire”

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 8:49 pm

      • …and one massive A hole in Yorkshire.

        trev

        October 11, 2020 at 11:15 pm

      • How many more times? STOP POSTING UNDER MY NAME. What’s wrong with you?

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 9:13 am

  39. Is it not the Cabinet’s Job to keep the DWP running. Seems the DWP Minister is not up to the job.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 11, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    • “Seems the DWP Minister is not up to the job.”

      The DWP is not up to the job. Dismantle it.

      trev

      October 11, 2020 at 8:45 pm

  40. Are the Government back from their 6 day holiday !!! One day a week as the Government & then off again.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 11, 2020 at 8:10 pm

  41. While the Government is on holiday is the DWP Minister holding the fort !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 11, 2020 at 8:11 pm

  42. Useless useless & more useless use of less useless useful useless.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 11, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    • What can go wrong !!!

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 11, 2020 at 8:13 pm

  43. Looking after our mental wellbeing is just as important as fighting Covid

    “For those with mental health issues, entering or returning to the workplace can be a daunting experience. This is why our Work Coaches, case managers and team leaders have received specialist mental health training to provide tailored support wherever it is needed across the country.”

    – Therese Coffey

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/10/looking-mental-wellbeing-just-important-fighting-covid/

    Utter nonsense. I have never met a Work Coach yet who has any knowledge or understanding of Mental illness or mental health issues. And how many people have been driven over the edge by bullying Work Coaches, impossible conditionality, threats of Sanctions, and the unrelenting pressure placed upon them by the DWP Benefits regime in general? Thousands have committed suicide because of them.

    trev

    October 11, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    • i think all of my past work coaches have mental problems as there thick as shit and told what to do or else buy upper management even tho it is braking every rule in the dwp book/ job seekers act!

      after a few rounds with me and every sanction doubt has failed from every work coach means they are powerless over me as they talk total bollocks!

      question is trev are you now going to stand up for your rights? and tell those providers to shove there contracts up there ass hole but are willing to participate but will sign nothing and if a sanction doubt is raised will end it at tribunal.

      it will never end unless you stand up to there bs and mass mwra is coming to a provider near you.

      same shit different brand shovel boom and bust it will never change just the same crap over and over again.

      superted

      October 11, 2020 at 10:25 pm

      • Having mental health issues doesn’t mean people are “thick as shit”, mental illness can affect anyone regardless of IQ, and it is quite possible and often the fact that people who are intelligent can have underlying long-term psychological problems. JCP Work Coaches, in my experience, have no training or knowledge in this respect, don’t know what certain conditions are or what it means, or how it affects people, and certainly do not make any allowances in that regard once informed. Coffey is talking out of her arse and lying through her teeth like a typical Tory.

        trev

        October 11, 2020 at 10:37 pm

    • @trev – This is very true Trev, they cause more of these problems than they solve. The nearest thing I’ve ever heard of are the ‘Employment Psychologists’ they employ. These basically set out to prove with various tick-box tests, that the claimant is work-resistant, or not being flexible enough in their jobsearches. Never agree to see one of these clowns, it’s a set-up. The results then become part of your Jobcentre record. Giving any Work Coach the chance to use it against you, as a lever to get you to apply for other types of jobs.

      Jeff Smith

      October 11, 2020 at 10:36 pm

      • @jeff smith. Yep, we had these in our Jobcentre about a year ago. You go along to the careers advisor, and they offer you a session with one of these is it Occupational people ? Like you say, it’s just a trap. Just so they can get something in writing to show you’re not doing enough.Or that you are trying to avoid some types of work.

        George Y.

        October 12, 2020 at 1:43 pm

  44. trev i have shown work coaches foi requests and will point blank refuse to read them and do what they want anyway they are told what to do or else they are thick as shit as only ppl like that can do that job.

    problem is i can and will take them down and it is only going to get worse if you do not stand up for your rights.

    and you did not answer my question will you keep signing providers contracts yes or no ?

    superted

    October 11, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    • I don’t know ted, not sure I’d want to risk it or rock the boat where the jobcentre’s concerned, sometimes it’s easier to play along with their nonsense and keep them off your back that way. At least they can’t hassle you whilst you’re on these schemes and courses, and it helps time to pass, each year that goes by is a year closer to Retirement.

      Anyway I’ve got another dilemma at the moment. I’ve been offered an interview and the job itself sounds ok but it’s 11 miles away and pays min. wage. There’s a bus (£20 p/w) but it takes forever. Best option of travel would be train but that costs £44 p/w. I would also have to pay my own rent and full Council Tax so I reckon I’d be about £25 p/w better off than on the dole , for a 40 hour week. I have to let them know if I’m coming for the interview. Don’t know what to do.

      trev

      October 12, 2020 at 10:16 am

      • If you haven’t told the dole or been referred by the dole for the job they won’t know.

        Smudger

        October 12, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      • @ Smudger

        I haven’t told the dole but I did apply for it via Find A Job. It might be a decent job but at min. wage it’s just not feasible considering the distance and travel costs. I know 11 miles doesn’t sound very far but the traffic congestion is horrendous in my part of the world. The bus takes ages and is very uncomfortable and tiring, you get bounced about by every pot hole and by the time you get off that bus you feel like you’ve done a day’s work already.
        For the job to be feasible it would either have to pay more money (like £10 p/h) or be closer to home or I would need my own transport. It does say that overtime is available but I don’t particularly want to work overtime. I wouldn’t mind doing the odd bit of overtime now & then to help out in busy periods but I don’t want to be in the position of having to rely on regular overtime to make up a decent wage.
        I have to get back to them today to let them know if I want to attend the interview.

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      • 25 nicker a week!, that’s a King’s Ransom, mate. Wish I had that kind of dosh 🙂 Have you figured in in-work expenses? If you are going to be working with not for Amazon Logistics you are going to need to cough up for a van for starters.

        Jeff Bezos solves trev's dilemma

        October 12, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      • @trev: Time was you’d have been able to try this job out for a few weeks without any penalty if you didn’t like it. Now, if you took the job and the JC found out, and then left, you’d be sanctioned for 6 months for leaving employment without good reason.

        Pete

        October 12, 2020 at 1:39 pm

      • Very true Pete, these days you have to think very carefully before taking the leap. I just wish the job was closer, I hate commuting and the added costs would bite heavily into a min. wage, also doing overtime makes it more difficult when you’ve got to travel all that way back home. Like I said, 11 miles isn’t far on the face of it but I’ve done that bus journey before when I was doing a Work Placement and it’s a nightmare. Used to take me the best part of two hours from leaving home to arriving at work, and a couple of times due to roadworks it actually took a full two hours. It’s main road all the way, with traffic lights, speed cameras, pot holes and chock-a-block with traffic. It would take over an hour even by car.

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 1:57 pm

      • If you try out a job on a Work Trial you can leave it if you want to without penalty. Trouble is for the time you’re on the trial you won’t get paid wages and will be on benefits, although you will get travel expenses refunded. If you’re undecided this might be a way to test the water without ending up deep in the shit.

        Dodger

        October 12, 2020 at 2:57 pm

      • I didn’t know that still existed. Presumably the employer has to agree to a work trial too, but if they’re getting free labour it wouldn’t cost them anything. I’m still mostly put off by the distance and commute though. I just wish I could Retire and not even have to think about this shit.

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 3:06 pm

  45. Tesco are an absolute disgrace. Tesco are clamping down on ‘panic buying’/’stockpiling’. At least that’s what they say. But let’s take a look around their store. You will find that most of the ‘offers’ are ‘clubcard only’. ‘Clubcards’ aimed at Range Rover driving, selfish, greedy, anti-social, I’m all right Jack and Jill types.
    These ‘offers’ are aimed at one of the two main panic buying/stock-piling groups* You can tell this by what is on ‘offer’, for example Chocolate Soya Milk, £1.65, clubcard offer price £1.25. This is what the mad crazies go after after they have raided the UHT milk. You can see that it is working since stocks have been raided as well as the UHT milk. We are outraged at these practices. Firstly, the encouragement of panic buying/stockpiling, and secondly ‘customer segmentation’ (charging different prices for different groups). It is causing stress amongst lower income groups who are firstly being charged higher prices, and because they are unable to afford to panic buy/stockpile they fear going without. It is high-time that the Government looked into these shady practices, and made them illegal.

    *the other group, sad to say, is disabled people, because disability benefits in the UK are generous to say the least. These are people living in 3/4 bedroom houses with a dozen huge chest freezers filled to the brim, and doing massive online shops. Again, it is people on low incomes and unemployment benefits that we have to worry about as they will really suffer in a ‘shit-hits-the-fan’ ™ © ® situation. And anyone spreading fear in the media or online, mainstream media, and that’s you the BBC, Sky and the rest as well as these crackpot ‘conspiracy theorists’ should be ‘deplatformed’ and thrown in jail. At least these ‘clickbait’ loons have an excuse since they are trying to make a buck, but there is no excuse for the BBC (unless they are part of a Government-led agenda), buy, hey that’s ‘conspiracy theory’.

    Supermarket Sweep

    October 12, 2020 at 4:59 am

    • The greedy fuckers even have a bulk buy section. Around here we have Asda and their ‘Covid Marshals’ :D, Morrisons are behaving like jumped-up Nazis, Lidl have gone ‘card only’ and we have gone :D. Even the local ethnically-owned shop has a huge ‘THANK YOU FOR WEARING A FACE COVERING’ signs plastered on the windows and all over the shop. Obviously the fear of the ‘deadly virus’ 😀 is greater than the fear of being robbed 😀 And would you believe, not a toilet roll in sight in any of the shops. Don’t people have enough hoarded already? The world has gone mad we tell you.

      Mrs & Mr Smith

      October 12, 2020 at 5:12 am

  46. Trev doesn’t care he shops at Marks & Spencer.

    Ramsbottom

    October 12, 2020 at 5:09 am

    • But trev can afford to 😉

      lena

      October 12, 2020 at 5:26 am

      • How do you arrive at that conclusion? My total income at the moment is £65 p/w JSA (paid fortnightly of course). I do not have access to any savings or investments. I own no property. I shop in Aldi and Home Bargains. There have been times when I’ve eaten food I’ve found in the street, and that my neighbour has thrown in the bin, as well as sometimes getting some out of date food from the foodbank.

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 9:20 am

  47. I wish Therese Coffey was Secretary of State for Health rather than Work and Pensions. Not because she’s any good or better than Matthew Hancock, but because it would be hilarious to hear an obese lump like her talking about preventative measure to avoid illness, e.g., extolling the virtues of a good diet and healthy BMI.

    Momus

    October 12, 2020 at 6:34 am

    • Coffey is well into the morbidly obese territory on the BMI 😀 She can’t even walk. She can only waddle because her legs rub. I won’t be talking any diet advice from that lump of lard.

      Slim Jenny

      October 12, 2020 at 8:37 am

      • And I bet she has to go to the doctors to get weighed like all the lard arses do because normal bathroom scales would break if the fat lump stood on them 😀

        Slim Jenny

        October 12, 2020 at 8:40 am

      • And why do you always see lard arses panic buying. You see them towing multiple trolleys with those buggy things they run over your feet in. I remember back in the days of the ‘Beast from the East’ when we were snowed under for a couple of days one morbidly obese lard arse pushing trolleys all over the place. One was loaded with all the bread in the shop and it was falling off the trolley all over the place. These fat fuckers always blame their ‘genes’, say is ‘fluid retention’ or that they are ‘big-boned’ lol I have heard all their pathetic excuses but the truth and harsh reality is that fat fuckers like Coffey are just greedy pigs (with apologies to pigs who are lovely creatures, 40x more intelligent than dogs, would make lovely pets, going to get some if I ever have the space 😉 )

        Slim Jenny

        October 12, 2020 at 8:49 am

    • That is why they picked Hancock for job. He is slim. Another good choice would be Sonny Rushtik. Or that McVey woman if she was still around. Or Lisa Nandy if Labour ever get back in. She is as thin as a rake. You are never going to see fat fuck BoJo in the Health job.

      Lynn

      October 12, 2020 at 8:55 am

      • Jeanne Freeloader the Scotch Health Minister is fatter then Coffey if that is even possible 😉

        Hamish McGlashan

        October 12, 2020 at 8:58 am

    • She smokes cheroots, drinks like a fish and eats like a horse too! Her Twitter feed is full of tweets about fine dining accompanied sometimes by pictures in glowing colour. Alright for some who like a short life but a merry one.

      Foxy

      October 12, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    • Strand Road Derry!
      Massive Radiation Levels!

      Tigerlily

      October 12, 2020 at 2:34 pm

      • Londonderry

        William of Orange

        October 12, 2020 at 4:28 pm

  48. Cloverleaf

    October 12, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    • Well there goes Therese Coffey ‘s plans to help millions back to work.

      xclausx

      October 12, 2020 at 3:11 pm

  49. Here”s another one.

    Government Pulls Controversial Ad Suggesting Ballet Dancer Retrain In ‘Cyber’

    xclausx

    October 12, 2020 at 2:18 pm

  50. It would be a lot more to the point if the government did the sensible thing.
    Introduce Universal Basic Income, it has never been more needed.

    Alan Turner

    October 12, 2020 at 3:04 pm

    • I totally agree Alan, the Pandemic emergency over the last 6 months would have provided the perfect time and opportunity to introduce a Basic Income. Instead we’ve had temporary increase to UC, temporary furloughs for workers, and the prospect of mass unemployment met with more crackpot job schemes and thousands of extra Work Coaches for Jobcentres that aren’t even open, all of which is the ‘sticking plaster’ approach of an inept Government.

      trev

      October 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm

  51. And how many people who work in the performance arts are going to want to sit at a VDU all day, looking at lines of computer code ? This nonsense is on a par with the idea that millions of people can somehow re-train for the social care sector.

    Tom Sutton

    October 12, 2020 at 3:09 pm

    • Cyber jobs and the Arts are about as polar opposite as you can get. The one area where those two disciplines might meet is in the world of Graphic Design and web Design, but not for those in performance Arts, more visual arts, Illustration/Graphics oriented, perhaps Animation too, like there’s a massive call for those jobs.

      trev

      October 12, 2020 at 3:40 pm

  52. Airline Pilot to toilet cleaner ? Millionaire Stockbroker to supermarket shelf-stacker ?
    Work & Pensions Secretary to shop assistant ? Who knows, with the way things are going.

    Vice Versa

    October 12, 2020 at 3:17 pm

  53. What are they going to do about the millions of people who will be without work ? In a situation where there won’t be nearly enough jobs, how will the government help those who will not be able to work again ?

    John L.

    October 12, 2020 at 3:20 pm

  54. So Sunak’s scheme is only good for 230,000 jobs ? And if you’ve got job 230,001 you’re stuffed.
    I only hope there is plenty of room left on Universal Credit, they are going to need it !

    Jeff Smith

    October 12, 2020 at 4:08 pm

  55. Can we beat 4 million unemployed.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 12, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    • Can we beat an egg & spoon race.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 12, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    • How much does Tory central Office pay you ?

      Ramsbottom

      October 12, 2020 at 4:40 pm

  56. Boris Johnson is so left wing to the Tory voters.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 12, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    • Moaning about equality.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 12, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    • Tony Benn would have voted Brexit.

      Ramsbottom

      October 12, 2020 at 4:41 pm

  57. Andrew Coates

    October 12, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    • Andrew Coates

      October 12, 2020 at 5:17 pm

      • Obviously somebody wanted to get the word “reboot” into the advert and that notion suggested using something to do with computers in the advert; and maybe a touch of assonance to sign of with a snappy memorable maxim.

        Voila!

        Rethink. Reskill. Reboot

        Gene-gene the Dancing Machine

        October 13, 2020 at 3:11 pm

    • It could have been worse. The Jobcentre might have suggested that the ballet dancer become an ecdysiast.

      (Ecdysiast: An exotic dancer aka stripper.)

      Wordmeister

      October 13, 2020 at 3:26 pm

  58. @ Champagne Socialist

    I beg your pardon? Who are you to make judgments about the integrity or employability of someone you don’t know? You don’t know what my barriers to employment may be. I dare hazard a guess that I’ve probably been unemployed for longer than most people on this comments thread.

    trev

    October 12, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    • Lies damn lies and statistics

      Champagne Socialist

      October 12, 2020 at 7:22 pm

      • Lies, damn lies and Donald Trump.

        The Gap Widens

        October 13, 2020 at 3:12 pm

  59. We have now put 500,000 people with mental health issues into work. We have also put 300,000 suicide risk people into work & they all love their jobs & are curing their mental health by having a job.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 12, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    • Disability Unit Moto

      Work Cures Disability

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 12, 2020 at 6:48 pm

      • Work cures the Corona Virus

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 12, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      • Retarded Tories.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 12, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      • Has your decision maker got a name !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 12, 2020 at 6:51 pm

      • Automated politics.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 12, 2020 at 6:51 pm

      • Master Stepping makes me mindful of Zen Master Mumon’s poems and aphorisms.

        Because it is so very clear,
        It takes longer to come to the realisation.
        If you know at once candlelight is fire,
        The meal has long been cooked.

        A poem from Master Mumon’s Gateless Gate which never fails to move me.

        Hwang Lo

        October 13, 2020 at 3:31 pm

    • Vote Tory vote often

      Weimar Trev

      October 12, 2020 at 9:24 pm

      • I doubt that Tory Trolls will be very popular or welcome on this thread. Quit while you’re ahead mate.

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 9:31 pm

  60. How about 6 million unemployed.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 12, 2020 at 6:52 pm

  61. superted

    October 12, 2020 at 8:51 pm

  62. trev and superted = the new Laurel and Hardy

    F. Arbuckle

    October 12, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    • F. Arbuckle = the new Larry Grayson?

      How many more pseudonyms are you going to use?

      trev

      October 12, 2020 at 9:28 pm

      • 1690

        Larry Grayson

        October 12, 2020 at 9:35 pm

      • Hard to imagine you chose that number randomly, an obscure reference to the Battle of the Boyne perhaps? I should have known, a Proddie!

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 9:49 pm

      • https://nationalparty.ie/

        Catholic Protestant Dissenter

        Larry Grayson

        October 12, 2020 at 10:03 pm

      • Óró, sé do bheatha bhaile

        trev

        October 12, 2020 at 10:04 pm

      • The National Party is a Fascist group masquerading as Republican but using anti-lockdown sentiment to garner support. The Far Right are behind the anti-lockdown movement.

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 1:25 am

  63. Master: ” I am not in the realm of understanding, what does it mean ?”

    Answer: ” I will never forget your favour to me for the rest of my life.”

    Zendo

    October 12, 2020 at 9:46 pm

  64. January 12, 2020
    THE FIAT MONEY SYSTEM IS ON A PATH TOWARDS ITS OWN DESTRUCTION

    http://www.theinternationalchronicles.com/2020/01/12/the-fiat-money-system-is-on-a-path-towards-its-own-destruction/

    In a post-fiat world, the starting point for governments will be one of national bankruptcy.

    There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.

    https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-social-credit-system-explained

    superted

    October 12, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    • Fiat, those little Italian cars? I suppose it had to happen eventually, they’ll go electric like all the rest.

      trev

      October 12, 2020 at 10:47 pm

      • where do we borrow all this money from trev? we dont that is the fiat money system and that is the problem.

        we went bust in 2008-9 and had 10 years of austerity with cuts to everything yet the government borrowed more than any government b4 it so paid off nothing!

        where did this magic money tree come from trev ? what is paper money really backed buy bar a printer and a digital number in a bank account on a server.

        just say i wanted a mortgage to buy a house that was 250.000 from a bank and wanted that amount in cash, not going to happen as the bank or the law will not let you do it like that!

        go try buy a car for cash not going to happen if over 10k i think as want it all done buy digits on a server.

        so the fiat money system is based on money that does not exist as it is backed buy nothing and the gold standard was ended because the usa never had enough gold to pay back its debts with other country’s.

        What is the gold standard?
        It’s a monetary system that directly links a currency’s value to that of gold. A country on the gold standard cannot increase the amount of money in circulation without also increasing its gold reserves. Because the global gold supply grows only slowly, being on the gold standard would theoretically hold government overspending and inflation in check. No country currently backs its currency with gold, but many have in the past, including the U.S.; for half a century beginning in 1879, Americans could trade in $20.67 for an ounce of gold. The country effectively abandoned the gold standard in 1933, and completely severed the link between the dollar and gold in 1971. The U.S. now has a fiat money system, meaning the dollar’s value is not linked to any specific asset.

        https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/12715/why-did-us-abandon-gold-standard#:~:text=Because%20the%20global%20gold%20supply,overspending%20and%20inflation%20in%20check.&text=The%20country%20effectively%20abandoned%20the,dollar%20and%20gold%20in%201971.

        superted

        October 12, 2020 at 11:14 pm

      • Austerity was a lie, we weren’t really skint, st the time there was a Treasury reserve of £264 Billion that they didn’t mention, spending cuts were never necessary, it was ideologically driven by the Tories. Austerity was the biggest con trick ever perpetuated against the British public, the largest transfer of wealth in British history that saw the rich treble their wealth. If we had really been broke do you think they would have let IDS piss £16 Billion against the wall on developing Universal Credit?

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 1:21 am

      • Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuss;
        Schwarzbraun bin ich auch – ja ich;
        Schwarzbraun muss mein Madel sein,
        Gerade so wie ich.

        Action Française

        October 13, 2020 at 5:13 am

      • “Two World Wars and one World Cup, doo-dah, doo-dah”

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 8:34 am

      • I am quite fond of those little Fiat 500s. I gearstick and a nice sure feel to it (compare with an Aygo where it wobbles all over the place and feels like it is about to fall out). I manage to reverse into a wall and a bollard in one and there wasn’t a mark on it. Saying that I did see one in a car park with a dent on the back, Goodness knows how that happened. A friend survived a crash in one (the car rolled over), they walked away without a scratch. Yes, it will be a sad day when fiat implodes, everything is reset and they are no more.

        Patsy Kline

        October 13, 2020 at 8:48 am

    • From lockdowns to “The Great Reset”

      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/lockdowns-great-reset

      Cloverleaf

      October 13, 2020 at 8:19 am

  65. superted

    October 13, 2020 at 12:09 am

  66. Antonio Gramsci

    October 13, 2020 at 1:17 am

    • I never knew Lyndon had become an American citizen.

      Sid

      October 13, 2020 at 3:04 pm

  67. David Nabarro

    October 13, 2020 at 3:54 am

    • The orange bars represent deaths in the first six weeks from March 13th; the blue bars represent deaths in the last six weeks

      Nabarro Dave

      October 13, 2020 at 3:55 am

  68. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/12/world-health-organization-envoy-urges-end-to-coron/

    Dr. David Nabarro, the organization’s special envoy for COVID-19, said in a Friday interview on British television that “we in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus.”

    “This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe, actually, and so we really do appeal to all world leaders: Stop using lockdown as your primary control method,” Dr. Nabarro told [U.K.] Spectator TV’s Andrew Neil. “Develop better systems for doing it. Work together and learn from each other, but remember, lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.”

    trev supports lockdowns. trev supports making poorer people poorer.

    Sinead O' Connor

    October 13, 2020 at 4:03 am

    • I admit i support lockdowns and i don’t care if it makes poorer people poorer. I only support lockdowns so the Jobcentres stay closed and i don’t have to sign on.

      trev

      October 13, 2020 at 4:07 am

  69. I admit i support lockdowns and i don’t care if it makes poorer people poorer. I only support lockdowns so the Jobcentres stay closed and i don’t have to sign on.

    trev

    October 13, 2020 at 4:08 am

    • Too right, trev. To be honest I couldn’t give a hoot whether or not this coronavirus is a hoax or not. Just so long as the Jobcentres stay closed and my dole continues to roll in without me having owt to to do with the infernal place. Hopefully this coronavirus will go on until I at least escape to retirement. Meantime, I will continue to fiddle while Rome burns 😀

      nero

      October 13, 2020 at 8:35 am

      • I didn’t post those comments, it’s the Rightwing Trolls using my name yet again.

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 8:40 am

      • oops, fell right into that one 😀

        nero

        October 13, 2020 at 8:59 am

      • I am of course glad that the Jobcentres are closed and we have been granted a temporary reprieve from the brutal DWP Benefits charade, but I do not relish in the Coronavirus or the Lockdowns, both of which are ruining peoples’ lives. It’s no joke getting ill with something like that, such a nasty virus that kills people or leaves others with long-term respiratory damage, not to mention the damage to the economy, to peoples’ jobs and to Society as a whole. I’ll be glad when this virus becomes a thing of the past but until then I can take some comfort from not having to sign on. Ultimately though there are no winners in this situation, apart from those who have been lucky enough to survive.

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 9:18 am

  70. What a fucked up Tory useless fuck up. Fuck ups is what Boris Johnson is best at. You must get that clap looked at Boris. Clap For boris.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 13, 2020 at 10:19 am

    • Clap for Boris Johnson’s fuck up clap.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 13, 2020 at 10:20 am

      • Boris is cassanova to the posh birds.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 13, 2020 at 10:20 am

  71. Put Everyone In A 6 Month Lockdown

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 13, 2020 at 10:22 am

  72. Sacked the lazy bastards on furlough slackers.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 13, 2020 at 10:23 am

  73. Greedy greedy greed Tory greed greedy greedy Tories.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 13, 2020 at 10:24 am

  74. DWP SUICIDE

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 13, 2020 at 10:24 am

    • The only thing that is not political is DWP Suicide keep it in DWP house as a medical decision maker who has no name.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 13, 2020 at 10:26 am

      • = DWP Suicide.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 13, 2020 at 10:26 am

      • = DWP Suicide Risk – The DWP think they are good at twisting words to suit their lawyers.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 13, 2020 at 10:27 am

      • = Welfare Reform Tory Flag Ship suicide.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 13, 2020 at 10:28 am

      • The Tories love suicide it what keeps the Tories going in genocide.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 13, 2020 at 10:29 am

  75. Unemployment rate hits highest level in three years

    Meanwhile redundancies rose to their highest level since 2009, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.

    It comes as the government prepares to impose tough local lockdown rules that will force some businesses to close, potentially leading to more job losses

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54520521

    xclausx

    October 13, 2020 at 11:25 am

    • Not looking good is it? And like an idiot (perhaps) I’ve just declined a job interview because it was too far away and only paid min.wage. Realistically though, I couldn’t have faced doing that daily commute by bus and the wages wouldn’t have covered train fares. Doing it by bus, including the walk to the bus station, would have taken about two hours, and the bus is like a cattle truck bouncing about over every pot hole in West Yorkshire. The traffic is jammed and the roads are knackered. Why are all the jobs always miles away in those in-between places that are hard to get to?

      trev

      October 13, 2020 at 11:57 am

      • “Why are all the jobs always miles away in those in-between places that are hard to get to?” No there not!
        Only the shitty jobs in hard-to-reach places that nobody applies for and ’employers’ are desperate to fill.
        The ‘jobs’ that the jobcentre/providers send you to. Why do you think you got an interview? This will be another of these high turnover jobs that nobody lasts half way into their first shift. And to you think that any
        of the others commentators on here applied when you had handily given them a ‘job lead’? I don’t think so.
        The jobcentre like to give the false impression that the unemployed are all fighting over these shitty jobs but
        the other commentators would be quite happy if you had got the job, because they wouldn’t be doing it, good
        ‘ole hard-working trev.

        Anyway, you made the right decision. What can you really do with £25? Two packs of smokes and it would be gone. All spent on baccy tax. All the Government stands to benefit from this ‘deal’. Can you imagine Amazon head honcho wasting his time on this shit. He probably makes £25 in a nanosecond, but what take you all week. £25 may seem like a fortune to someone on JSA but in reality it is peanuts. It is all relative as they say.

        Spock

        October 13, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      • @trev – Probably for the best Trev, don’t forget what would have happened if you had resigned.

        Pete

        October 13, 2020 at 2:30 pm

      • Yeah Pete I know, but I’m still beating myself up about it. It’s the first time in ages that I’ve even been offered an interview but if the job’s not right it’s not right. Pity though, had it been nearer and easier to get to I would have given it a go. There used to be loads of jobs in this town at one time, now they all involve travel and many are awkward shifts, the good thing about the one I’ve just blown was that it was a normal dayshift, just too far under the circumstances. These are the sort of practicalities that the Jobcentre don’t take into account, the wages versus travel costs, the time it would take to get there (and back), the availability and reliability of public transport, etc. The bus timetables around here in peak times are optimistic estimates at best, or sometimes works of speculative fiction. A 40 hour week can turn into 60 hours including the commute, and then they expect you to work overtime as well!

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 2:58 pm

      • workshy

        Larry Grayson

        October 13, 2020 at 7:18 pm

      • Neo-Nazi

        trev

        October 13, 2020 at 7:24 pm

  76. So, are the legacy claimants going to get the extra £20 or not ?

    Dave Blunt

    October 13, 2020 at 2:44 pm

  77. Andrew Coates

    October 13, 2020 at 3:31 pm

  78. The Tories are going to just going to steam ahead, ignoring the mass unemployment. Just as they are doing with everything else they don’t want to think about. It’s obvious they have accepted mass unemployment as inevitable. But at the same time they don’t want to spend too much money on doing anything about it.

    Jeff Smith

    October 13, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    • They’re spending lots of money on hiring an extra 13,500 Work Coaches whose job it is to prevent as many people as possible from getting State Benefits, by use of Sanctions and intimidation the unemployed population will be reduced, people hounded, bullied and threatened into doing two or three part time jobs, others Sanctioned for failing to do so, others driven to signing off and living on the streets, and if course those driven to suicide. The Tory final solution is to follow the same procedures of the last ten years but ramp it up.

      trev

      October 13, 2020 at 4:17 pm

  79. Hahaha sticks and stones Larry.

    Repeat after me… “VIVA ANTIFA”

    Now your turn…

    trev

    October 13, 2020 at 7:51 pm


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