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Job Search Proof Returns as Mass Unemployment Predicted.

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Quote reads: "Well, they say 35 hours. That’s what you’d sign the disclaimer for. But if you job searched for 35 hours, and you’re not getting a job, I’d guarantee within a month you’re going to have depression."

Job Search Returns.

Contributors have been talking about signing-on and sanctions.

Job Search, and the proof, by UC Diary, print outs, or  completed form,  is at the centre of the Sanctions Regime:

Here is the research link:



UK unemployment rate could hit 15 per cent with second Covid wave, says OECD

The UK unemployment rate could soar to 15 per cent if there is a second wave of coronavirus infections, the OECD has said.

Even without a second wave, the global economic organisation reckons unemployment could hit 11.7 per cent, a level not seen since the 1980s.

It comes as the UK gradually reopens its economies after lengthy coronavirus lockdowns. As it does so, the government plans to gradually wind down its support for the economy.

The OECD today added to fears that the removal of support will lead to a surge in unemployment when it published a report into jobs markets around the world.

By the end of the year, the UK unemployment rate will have jumped to 11.7 per cent from the current level of 3.9 per cent, it said.

The labour market will take time to recover, the report predicted, with unemployment only dropping to 7.2 per cent in 2021.

However, the OECD said that a second wave of infections and the subsequent lockdown could send unemployment soaring to 14.8 per cent as millions lose their jobs. That would be well above anything seen in recent memory.

Our Boss is gearing up!

Written by Andrew Coates

July 7, 2020 at 10:31 am

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  1. I have a telephone work search review this week. I’ll let you all know how I got on. I am on legacy benefit JSA, so I can present my evidence in a format of my choosing.

    Hi jj,

    Work Search Review Call Appointment

    I will be calling you on Wednesday 8th July at 10.30am

    This is a Jobcentre Customer Care call to review your job search and any support you need to look for work. Any problems please email me on xxxxxxxx@dwp.gov.uk or call xxxxx Jobcentre on xxxxx xxxxxx. Thank you.

    jj joop

    July 7, 2020 at 11:19 am

    • @jj joop : Well you know what to do there JJ. Call him right back for a Workcoach Review and ask what he has been doing to help you find a job ! Seeing as he is so clever.

      Colin Claimant

      July 7, 2020 at 1:04 pm

  2. Reblogged this on Tory Britain!.


    July 7, 2020 at 11:42 am

  3. So far the Jobcentre haven’t yet been in touch. I have no idea if it has reopened in my town, or when I will be required to attend. Am doing the odd bit of jobsearch though, and have done throughout the lockdown, so I’ve got some evidence should they ask. I used to print it out at the library for a long time, usually costing between about £1.40 and £2 per fortnight, but the work coaches started telling me it wasn’t necessary to do so and said that I could just show my evidence on my phone, which I now do. I just put all the confirmation emails (saying I’ve applied for whatever job) into a separate folder in my email and show them that. Then they say “why aren’t you getting any interviews?”. Never satisfied.


    July 7, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    • @trev: They never will be satisfied Trev, that’s their job. To see claimants don’t get too comfortable on benefits. Even though they are already doing everything possible, unless you can sign-off, it’s never enough.


      July 7, 2020 at 1:01 pm

      • Yep, you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. All you can do is tick the right boxes and continue to jump through their hoops so they can’t sanction you. All the while dreaming of being old enough to get your Pension.


        July 7, 2020 at 1:08 pm

  4. Have you thought of a career in statue restoration ? Plenty of work there at the moment.(Specially in the USA)


    Billy Boyne

    July 7, 2020 at 12:16 pm

  5. Now those poor devils who have never been unemployed before, will see for themselves what the word ‘Conditionality’ really means. Sanctions are going to be falling out the sky like raindrops.

    Jeff Smith

    July 7, 2020 at 12:58 pm

  6. You do know that Superted still doesn’t believe in the 35 Hour Jobsearch ?


    July 7, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    • Work search expectations will differ for each claimant depending on their individual
      circumstances and job goals and advisers will tailor requirements for each claimant, which
      means that not all claimants will automatically be subject to the 35 hour work search
      requirement. Our regulations allow that where a claimant has done all that could reasonably be
      expected of them – for example they have applied for all suitable jobs and undertaken all the
      activities set out in their work search and work preparation plan – this may be considered
      sufficient even where the time taken was less than the hours expected.


      so as long as you are applying for work and can prove this the time taken does not matter. the 35hr job search is a expectation and the dwp has tried to enforce this and lost at upper tribunal.


      July 7, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      • @ superted : Claimants will still be expected to undertake 35 Hours of jobsearch a week, or face the possibility of a sanction for not actively seeking employment.

        Jobcentre Manager

        July 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      • actively seeking employment is looking and applying for jobs time taken does not matter if you have a page full of applications for said week.

        expectations can not be enforced buy the law they tried and failed.


        July 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm

      • and i job search 24/7 as the total jobs server does it for me and then sends jobs for me to apply for at around 50 per day 😉

        its not the 1980s anymore 🙂


        July 7, 2020 at 7:10 pm

      • You need to keep proof of each job write it down save the ad if you can on an online pdf site and before sending the job applied for press print screen and save in word.


        July 7, 2020 at 10:09 pm

      • DSC_0052



        July 7, 2020 at 10:45 pm

  7. […] Job Search Proof Returns as Mass Unemployment Predicted. […]

  8. And all job coaches will say there are plenty of jobs available.


    July 7, 2020 at 3:44 pm

  9. Between December 2017 and December 2018, the total number of jobs in the UK was estimated to have increased by 415,000 to reach 35.27 million.

    For December 2018 to February 2019, there were an estimated 854,000 job vacancies in the UK, 39,000 more than a year earlier.



    July 7, 2020 at 3:55 pm

  10. Each to their own, trev 😉

    Offred the Handamaid

    July 7, 2020 at 5:13 pm

  11. We at the Department expect jobseekers to “do all they can do to find work”. As far as we are concerned if a jobseeker has failed to do something that they could have done then they have failed in their jobseeking obligations.

    Jobcentre Plus - Director of Operations (Caxton House)

    July 7, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    • you fail jobseeking obligations if you dont look and APPLY! for jobs and be able to prove this to a wc in any format you choose and can not be dictated how this is provided and in what format.


      July 7, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    • In an infinite universe there is infinite possibilities. In an infinite universe a job-search is never-ending.

      Dr Stephen Hawking (deceased)

      July 7, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    • The Never Ending Job Search

      Turn around
      Look at what you see…
      In your work coach’s face
      The mirror of your dreams…

      Make believe I’m everywhere
      Given in the light
      Written on the pages of your journal
      Is the answer to a never ending job search…
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…

      Reach the stars
      Fly a fantasy…
      Dream a dream
      And what you see will be…

      Rhymes that keep their secrets
      Will unfold behind the clouds
      And there upon a rainbow
      Is the answer to a never ending job search…
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…

      Job search…
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…

      Show no fear
      For one day your work coach will fade away…
      Replaced by a brand-new one… In your hand
      The birth of a new day…

      Rhymes that keep their secrets
      Will unfold behind the clouds
      And there upon a rainbow
      Is the answer to a never ending job search
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…

      Never ending job search…
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…
      Never ending job search…
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…
      Never ending job search…
      Ahahah ahahah ahahah…

      Limahl - A Not So Random Poet

      July 7, 2020 at 8:04 pm

      • Very good !

        Random Poet

        July 7, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    • ‘ Jobcentre Plus – That is absolutely true.

      Supreme Overlord Of The DWP And Final Judge Of The Regulations

      July 7, 2020 at 8:15 pm

  12. Who is it that is stripping the supermarket shelves of demerara sugar cubes?

    Sally Shopper

    July 7, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    • Indeed! Some ‘prepper’ site must have posted that demerara (sugar) will be out of stock soon because of Covid-19/Brexit/as asteroid striking Earth. Either that or ebayers/amazoners or corner-shop price-gougers. We has to buy a tub of crystals as there was still a couple left on the shelves. Well, we just grabbed what was left. F**k it, we thought. So apologies if anyone out there couldn’t get any. We are sick and tired of this madness. It is ALWAYS the cheapest option that is stripped first.

      The Savvy Shoppers

      July 7, 2020 at 8:33 pm

  13. Why are you all so keen to be called back into the Jobcentre? If I never heard from the Jobcentre ever again I would shed no tears.

    JSA:The Legacy (Part One)

    July 7, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    • its not a job centre anymore its a harassment and sanction center for the sheeple to do what there told or else.


      July 7, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    • @ JSA: The Legacy (Part One)

      Merely pre-empting, and simultaneously dreading, the dire inevitable. Personally, I think Jobcentres should be closed permanently. Benefits could be paid automatically and signing could be done annually either online or via a postal declaration form. No need for Work Coaches, Jobcentres, Sanctions, or G4SS Goons.


      July 7, 2020 at 8:55 pm

      • Bet you are glad when I have come and gone and haven’t dropped any shit from the jobcentre in your letterbox 😀

        Postman Pat

        July 7, 2020 at 9:45 pm

      • I doubt if we’ll get anything in writing, it’ll either be a phone call, email or text message saying you have an appointment next Tuesday or whatever.


        July 7, 2020 at 10:01 pm

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        July 7, 2020 at 10:04 pm

  14. How long must I Jobsearch Superted asked ?
    As he sat down in his chair,
    For 35 Hours the Work Coach said,
    Look it’s written there.
    And he held up the Claimant Commitment,
    That Superted had signed,
    And there it said quite clearly,
    He couldn’t disagree,
    35 Hours for Superted,
    And the same for you and me.

    Random Poet

    July 7, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    • and what is a cc hmmm lets have a look.

      I can confirm that the Department deliberately did not refer to a legal contract in the previous
      Freedom of Information response. Rather, we referred to a contractual concept because the
      Claimant Commitment is intended to be about a very specific two-way bargain: claimants are
      provided with financial support; and in return for that financial support we expect them to do
      everything that they can to prepare for and find work.


      contractual concept and two way bargin, sounds like bs to me lol


      July 7, 2020 at 8:32 pm

      • DWP-speak meaning a cc has no basis or standing in LAW! .. Or in layperson’s language – utter horseshit!

        Legal Eagle

        July 7, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    • @random poet: Ha ! Ha ! Brilliant Random, the final poetic word on the 35 Hour Jobsearch.

      Lawrence B.

      July 7, 2020 at 9:00 pm

      • DSC_0689

        bottom left is a cc from 2009 30hr job search and i have never had a ase doubt raised about time taken doing a work search since because they know i know its bull shit and they cant enforce it with the law because it does not exsist 😉


        July 7, 2020 at 9:34 pm

      • The DWP IS the Law!

        Iain Duncan Smith (deceased)

        July 7, 2020 at 9:39 pm

      • The DWP IS the Law!!

        Iain Duncan Smith (deceased)

        July 7, 2020 at 9:40 pm

  15. Workfare for the young to be announced by the chancellor?



    July 7, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    • So if you’re over 24 you’ve been written off, thank fuck.


      July 7, 2020 at 9:51 pm

      • @trev – I wouldn’t count on it Trev, the DWP are going to be absolutely desperate. And when they get desperate, they start getting nasty.

        Jeff Smith

        July 8, 2020 at 10:07 am

      • I can assure you dear Trev, you have not been written off, there are plenty more jobs in the sea and we have got something very special cooking for you. I know to all you doubters my job schemes stink like a haddock’s g-string but rest assured there are real jobs at the end of this, it’s not just subsidised labour for my mates.So look forward to it… You will have a whale of a time!

        PS – Boris is a useless fat bloater and I want his job!

        Fishy Sunak

        July 10, 2020 at 11:04 am

  16. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53324201

    ‘For each “kickstarter” job, the government will cover the cost of the National Minimum Wage – £4.55 for under 18s, £6.45 for 18 to 20-year-olds, and £8.20 for 21 to 24-year-olds – for 25 hours a week, and employers will be able to top up the figure.’

    I thought Workfare was working for your benefits,this says it’s actual wages and it’s only 25 hours a week.

    Billy Boyne

    July 8, 2020 at 12:49 am

    • Interesting, under Maggie Thatcher’s YTS (Youth Training Scheme) employers were also allowed to ‘top-up’ the wages. Unlike the DWP workfare schemes such as the now defunct MWA/CWP where employers were expressly forbidden for giving ’employees’ so much as a stale sandwich. Sunny Rushti is obviously a fan of Mrs T.


      July 8, 2020 at 4:52 am

    • What were you expecting Billy Boyne? Rushti to dust off George Osborne’s infamous and failed ‘Help to Work’ scheme? Toiling for your benefits in a recycling plant or sorting shit-stained knickers in a stinking so-called charity shop for your dole money? These schemes only breed resentment, negative attitudes and entrenchment of unemployment in those exposed to them. Forcing young people onto these exploitive, soul-destroying failed schemes would be the nail in the coffin of their futures. Maybe Mr Sunak understands this or he doesn’t want to damage his Prime Ministerial ambitions. You decide.


      July 8, 2020 at 5:10 am

    • @ Billy Boyne

      I don’t think the work will only be for 25 hours, I think it means that the wages for the first 25 hours will be paid by Gov. and employers will make up the rest of the wage, it’ll be full-time. There’s also some mention of “work placements”, which sounds like unpaid work.


      July 8, 2020 at 9:45 am

    • Or maybe I’ve misunderstood, having just read the following:


      6 months work placements with wages paid by Gov. for 25 hours a week.


      July 8, 2020 at 9:54 am

  17. Some good news, trev. Rishi Sunak to announce new ‘kick-up-the-arse’ ‘work experience’ scheme for the long-term unemployed.


    July 8, 2020 at 4:45 am

    • According to media releases (i assume by government announcement) only the young (under 25) are going to get the benefit of work placements and traineeships.

      So currently the long term unemployed are likely to suffer the most until things return to normal for businesses what with the recently unemployed being a more abundant supply.

      Government willl say the young are most likely to be put on the furlough scheme but i can say this is quite incorrect. Employers are costing so what with the under 25s being a cheaper pay rate, have the highest chance of staying in work and off furlough over the over 25s who cost more.

      If businesses werent already likely to shed staff, this cheap labour idea is likely to accelerate that, especially for those over 25.


      July 8, 2020 at 5:49 am

  18. What’s it with Lidl going ‘cashless’? You would expect them to be one of the last to pull this stunt under the ‘coronavirus’ pretext. You would assume that most of their customers don’t even have a bank account.

    Even if you buy this crap ATMs are paying out brand-new notes that have been ‘quarantined’ for 72 hours. As the machines themselves say: “Cash is Safest’. Lidl is another one on the boycott list. Bye Lidl is was nice knowing you. C’ya!

    Super Shopper

    July 8, 2020 at 5:23 am

    • It can only be a good thing, love. This deadly plaque coronavirus is everywhere. Ken hasn’t left the house in six months.

      ken's mum

      July 8, 2020 at 5:29 am

  19. Who the fuck shat in my bed!!?? Was it you Amber?? You fucking animal!! You filthy beast!!

    Johnny Depp

    July 8, 2020 at 6:41 am

    • @ Johnny Depp – No young girl who wished to be considered a lady, would ever do such a horrible thing.

      Amelia Fawcett-Hamilton, Moreton Grange School For Young Ladies

      July 8, 2020 at 10:04 am

  20. And this job scheme for the young people


    Wonder whether these are paid jobs or unpaid jobs,


    July 8, 2020 at 7:16 am

  21. One thing is certain, the long-term unemployed are going to be a significant part of society over the next few years.

    Alan Turner

    July 8, 2020 at 9:58 am

    • Many of the older long-term unemployed will either be dead or hit Retirement age over the next few years. Many people I know have already died over the last few years, at least a dozen in last 5 years, mostly in their 50s, one at 60, another at 66.


      July 8, 2020 at 10:06 am

      • @trev- Most of these people have no chance of sustainable employment . Particularly now in the current crisis. But the cruelty and strictness of the benefit system will mean that they will be continually pressured and harassed to find a job. Be sent again and again, on pointless training courses. And sadly, it is a large section of the British Working Class who have been the cheerleaders for all of this. Enthusiastic supporters of the ‘skivers’ propaganda and the drastic cuts to welfare over the last ten years. And once again they have allowed themselves to be used as useful idiots by the Tories.

        Jeff Smith

        July 8, 2020 at 10:27 am

      • And then they send you on those stupid employability courses to get you out of the way. I was on one last year with Interserve, it didn’t even have a title but involved all the usual stuff, practicing interview techniques etc. One guy I know was referred to the Right Steps to Work course last year at age 65 !


        July 8, 2020 at 11:18 am

      • @ trev: It’s an outrage for a 65 year old to be referred to one of these so-called training courses. I was on one once and we had a guy must have been about that age. He sat there absolutely fuming with anger. He was a grandfather with white hair.
        And I remember they kept trying to get him to look at the long-term for his career !
        It’s just straightforward cruelty.


        July 8, 2020 at 2:55 pm

      • @ Gareth

        It’s bloody ridiculous and is a blatant exercise in ‘bums on seats’ for the Third-party Providers, putting public money into their pockets to keep the lucrative poverty pimp gravy train going, that’s what it’s all about,transferring public wealth to the Private sector and using the unemployed as puppets in the process. One big fkin con trick. And also to dupe the masses, the electorate, into believing they are doing something about the perceived problem of unemployment.


        July 8, 2020 at 3:21 pm

  22. None of @superteds posts really change anything. A 35 Hour a week is still an expected requirement of a Universal Credit claim. And its no good @superted posting about 2009, this is for a JSA claim, completely different. My concern here is that people who are not used to the benefit system are going to follow @superted’s advice, and then end up being sanctioned.

    John Hartley

    July 8, 2020 at 10:14 am

    • if you look for work for 35hrs per week and dont apply for any jobs you will be sanctioned.

      if you go to a tribunal all they will want to see is job applications what you did or how long it takes you means nothing.

      to stop a ase doubt being raised you must apply for jobs and be able to prove this as that is the law.


      July 8, 2020 at 11:52 am

      • Very true, ted. At my jobcentre I have seen smug ex-company/director types get smart with the jobcentre and say they have flown up and down the country all week going to networking conferences, franchise exhibitions, seminars and whatnot and still being sanctioned because they did not apply for any jobs.

        Rosie the Rivetter

        July 8, 2020 at 1:46 pm

      • and there is no time limit for a sanction so they can leave it for months then you get a new wc and get a ase sanction from 3 months ago.

        but as i know what there like had proof and it was dropped 😉


        July 8, 2020 at 2:02 pm

  23. Traineeships for the over 25s including the long term unemployed.


    July 8, 2020 at 11:58 am

    • Where have you seen that, got any links/further info?


      July 8, 2020 at 1:22 pm

  24. I been on enough employability schemes that I could probably run the course for them, I got told by Reed in Partnership no thanks, as my advisor knew what I would do.


    July 8, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    • They didn’t work.covering letters were handed out in the Jobcentre to be critised for being to long by someone else.I think that they were through the careers service and handed to the jobcentre too.

      People are on their own a jobcentre work coach can do little,whats striking about about much of these losses is the way people are simply discarded theres little doubt some may never work again and the effects felt for some considerable time.Passed a poster attacking British Airways for the treatment of staff.Its becoming a country of discontent.A governement that refuses to work with the EU,Uk citizens not welcome in other countries.Its irreparable damage.

      European countries disapprove of people from the UK travelling there People in Spain, Italy, France and Germany would all prefer travellers from other counties over those from the UK.



      July 10, 2020 at 12:09 am

  25. Good luck with reopening the Jobcentres 😷

    Coronavirus: WHO rethinking how Covid-19 spreads in air



    July 8, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    • @trev_ It’s an airborne virus, the airborne spread has always been the most important. Yes, you can get it from contaminated surfaces, but the main risk is other people’s breath. And the virus particles they expel every time they exhale.

      Alan Turner

      July 8, 2020 at 3:04 pm

      • No more group signing sessions then with 10 people crowded into a little room. No more dole queues. No more sitting on sofas waiting to be called to sign on. Ultimately, no more Jobcentres. Automatic payments and Annual signing online or by post, that is the answer, not thousands more Work Coaches.


        July 8, 2020 at 3:26 pm

  26. DWP confirms the benefit overpayments recovery pause has ended – full details revealed


    July 8, 2020 at 1:42 pm

  27. DWP announces big changes for job centres as unemployment rises across UK

    how are 27000 wc going to deal with 4-6 million claims and signing on every 2 weeks?


    July 8, 2020 at 2:10 pm

    • I bet they’ll be doing telephone signing appointments and you’ll only have to attend in person maybe once a month. Then as time goes on and Covid infections rise it’ll be 6 monthly attendance. Eventually it’ll be annual signing.


      July 8, 2020 at 2:49 pm

  28. There are 8 million stories in the Naked Jobcentre….

    Sexton Blake

    July 8, 2020 at 3:00 pm

  29. So, when are the legacy claimants going to get the £20 extra ?

    Dave Blunt

    July 8, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    • Never, if it’s up to the Tories. When are the Opposition going to hold them to account over this matter?


      July 8, 2020 at 3:29 pm

      • Good point Trev ! There was a bit of a fuss made a few weeks ago, but now it’s just been forgotten.
        Where is Jonathan Reynolds, Labour’s Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions on this ?
        Or has he given it up already ?
        Very poor effort on the part of Labour.

        Tom Sutton

        July 8, 2020 at 3:49 pm

      • Pretty pathetic really. It doesn’t bode well.


        July 8, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    • When Ken takes off his Hazmat suit and goes outside.

      Nathan Bedford Forest

      July 9, 2020 at 1:54 am

  30. Prices’ are rising in the shops’ and many are still closed and there’s face mask’s with a price mark up and shortage’s elsewhere.

    Fears 660,000 over 50s face Universal Credit for YEARS after Rishi Sunak announcement
    RISHI SUNAK has announced a new kickstart scheme for young people today during his summer economics statement. However, a warning has been issued for the over 50s.


    Older people are simply abandoned,its awful.


    July 8, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    • I just looked at the Rest Less website but it doesn’t seem to work very well on my phone. Rest More would be of more interest to me! But once the Jobcentre /library is reopen and I have access to a computer Rest Less might be a good place to look for jobs for the over 50s.


      July 8, 2020 at 4:46 pm

  31. P.S.

    Good to hear that Reynolds brought up the subject.


    July 8, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    • Agreed. But it’s no good just complaining on your Twitter account. How many times has he stood up in parliament and said something about this ? At Prime Minister’s Questions for example ? Or any of the other Labour MPs for that matter ?
      There are approximately 2 million legacy benefit claimants. About 183,000 are on legacy Jobseeker’s Allowance, ( JSA ). But all the rest, some 1.8 Million people are claiming Employment and Support Allowance, (ESA). These ESA claimants are all by definition too sick and disabled to work. People with heart conditions, multiple sclerosis, amputated limbs, in wheelchairs after horrific accidents etc. That’s what makes this whole issue totally unacceptable. It would be grossly unfair to have legacy JSA claimants treated like this. It is an absolute disgrace even by the brutal standards of this government, that vulnerable ESA claimants are being left to endure additional hardship in this way.

      Jeff Smith

      July 8, 2020 at 5:15 pm

      • Yes, PMQT definitely. The Tories reckon it’s something to do with the way JSA is administered but that’s bollocks. If they can take money off you (Sanctions, loan deductions) then they can give you money too!


        July 8, 2020 at 5:40 pm

  32. Anyone know anything about this?

    Private sector to deliver ‘new online, one-to-one job finding support service’.


    jj joop

    July 8, 2020 at 5:05 pm

    • anything i have done in the past with the ncs was a waste of time and just another reason i do not let the dwp have my phone number or email address as just hand it over to providers with no permission.


      July 8, 2020 at 5:42 pm

      • Same here. I’ve attended 3 of their sessions at the Jobcentre down the years. Each session only last about 45 minutes and they were all total bollocks. At least for me, anyway. They were really for people who had never been unemployed before.

        jj joop

        July 8, 2020 at 6:19 pm

      • Who or what is ncs?


        July 8, 2020 at 6:39 pm

      • Oh right, National Careers Service, still not much wiser, never had any dealings with them , sounds like something for school leavers


        July 8, 2020 at 6:42 pm

      • National Careers Service.


        July 8, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      • NCS – Crime Scene Investigation

        Dr Sara Silde

        July 8, 2020 at 9:01 pm

      • Crime Scene Investigation – providers offices 😉

        CSI - The Providers

        July 8, 2020 at 9:06 pm

  33. UK firms slash more than 12,000 jobs in two days



    July 8, 2020 at 5:05 pm

  34. Well since I can’t afford to eat out or go on holiday I won’t be helping re start the economy, I can’t even afford a day trip to the seaside !


    July 8, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    • And you are working Kat ! And still can’t even afford to go out . No wonder so many people think there is no point in it.

      Jeff Smith

      July 8, 2020 at 5:19 pm

      • Me neither but I am on the dole after all. I’ve eaten out once in the last 8 years, a family do paid for by my brother-in-law. Can’t remember last time I saw the sea, must be 12 years ago and that was an afternoon in Scarborough. Last proper holiday I had was in 2003.


        July 8, 2020 at 5:36 pm

      • Jeff so true! I’m still trying to save for new glasses ….! Never mind getting a hair cut or a pint! Work doesn’t pay, but I’m too scared to claim UC …..


        July 8, 2020 at 8:39 pm

  35. scared of what ?


    July 8, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    • ken is scared of his own shadow 😀

      Freddy Krueger

      July 8, 2020 at 9:04 pm

      • Ken’s shadow practices social distancing and stays 2 metres apart from him at all times.

        Billy Boyne

        July 8, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    • Su petted scared of sanctions! Which would affect any top up of housing allowance and possibly make me homeless! It’s why I decided not to get a 1 bed place as I couldn’t afford it on my own. Where I am now I doubt I’d get a housing top up as the most my area will pay for a room in a shared house is £70 a week…..


      July 9, 2020 at 5:08 am

      • The BBC are scrapping free licences for the over 75’s and will be means tested.How about scrapping the licence fee and making the channel pay and find its on way.All this goes back to the three channel day’s and the BBC shouldn’t be able to live in the past.



        July 9, 2020 at 12:12 pm

      • Aye lad. The ‘TV Licence’ belongs in the 1950s. When TVs were TVs. Big solid heavy pieces of furniture that were the centrepiece of your living room. Summat that you were proud off. Built to last. Well the cabinets were. Made with solid wooden cabinets. Big heavy cathode ray tube beaming out a picture in stunning black and white. Big heavy speaker on the front. Four push buttons that your twiddled to tune. Back in the day there was only the BBC Home Service, then the second BBC channel came along, then ITV joined the party in the last 60s. And the ever looming presence of the ‘TV detector van’. Fast forward to the
        2020s. Now we know that ‘TV detector vans’ were hogwash. We live in a multi-channelverse. We don’t have TVs any more – we have monitors (some come with a built-in TV tuner). We use these devices to play DVDs, listen to CDs, view photographs, listen to the radio, watch streaming services online, play media from external devices, ‘cast’ our smartphones onto them, play video games, monitor CCTV. Some of these devices are never tuned to TV let alone the BBC. In the year 2020 the BBC is an anachronism – it is an irrelevance. It is high-time we said bye-bye to ‘Auntie’. C’ya!

        Yorky Pud

        July 9, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      • As we say in Yorkshire.

        Yorky Pud

        July 9, 2020 at 12:33 pm

      • Over 75s still qualify for a ‘free’ ‘tv licence’ if they are on pension credit. The well off ones will have to cough up. TVL will have their details on the ‘database’ 😀 It was a stupid idea all along. It is just stupid giving people who are well off freebies whilst many are struggling to make ends meet. Of course no one has to pay for a ‘tv licence’ anyway. The Golden Rule: NO CONTACT!


        TV Licence Free

        July 9, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      • Labour’s Shadow Culture Minister Christian Matheson told the House of Commons on Thursday that many pensioners would be forced to “choose between eating and watching TV,” What a load of rot. Notwithstanding that a pensioner on pension credit receives more than twice that of a JSA claimant is this clown saying that a pensioner whether on pension credit or not, anyone spends only £157 a year (£3 a week on food)?! Why doesn’t this idiot pipe up about the injustice being perpetrated on legacy JSA claimants, denied an extra £20 a year (£1000 a year) that the unemployed on universal credit receive.


        Justice for Legacy JSA Claimants (JAM)

        July 9, 2020 at 1:58 pm

      • Absolutely true, and as somebody just about to reach the magic age I can vouch for it!

        Andrew Coates

        July 10, 2020 at 5:31 am

      • Labour’s Shadow Culture Minister Christian Matheson told the House of Commons on Thursday that many pensioners would be forced to “choose between eating and watching TV,” What a load of rot. Notwithstanding that a pensioner on pension credit receives more than twice that of a JSA claimant is this clown saying that a pensioner who is so well off that they don’t qualify for pension credit, anyone, except a Chinese rice farmer, spends only £157 a year (£3 a week on food)?! Why doesn’t this idiot pipe up about the injustice being perpetrated on legacy JSA claimants, denied an extra £20 a year (£1000 a year) that the unemployed on universal credit receive.


        Justice for Legacy JSA Claimants (JAM)

        July 9, 2020 at 2:01 pm

  36. We had someone from NCS came into college centre last year, was a load of rubbish


    July 8, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    • All they did to people was go into their dyslexia in depth of hearing distance of the entire jobcentre floor.They were hopeless.

      I think they were the ones who said that leave your address off a CV.


      July 9, 2020 at 11:31 am

      • @ken – The sheer lack of privacy in Jobcentres. You hear the most confidential information, as if they were confessing in a church. Not signing-on down at the Jobcentre.

        Frank Taylor

        July 9, 2020 at 12:03 pm

      • Last time I encountered the careers service I did a Superted I refused to sign the paperwork and was forced (asked) to leave the room and the session until they had finished,i’d had a enough of them from previous experiences.


        July 9, 2020 at 12:17 pm

  37. Scientists have discovered that a certain black material is impervious to covid19…. whoopee

    The same scientists learned that the covid19 droplets remain active on most western style clothing especially miniskirts for an hour or more but soon dies on the new black material.

    There is also evidence that the germ can survive for several hours on people’s hair.

    They now recommend people wearing cloak type all over coverings including a hood in the battle to defeat the deadly virus.


    July 9, 2020 at 10:55 am

    • A hazmat suit by any other name. Light at the end of the tunnel for ken. Soon he may be enjoying some fresh air

      David Lomax (last man alive after the nuclear war)

      July 9, 2020 at 12:18 pm

      • Its interesting that Germany Scotland New Zealand all have female leadership’perhaps their perspective is key to much of this and low death rates.


        July 12, 2020 at 1:18 pm

  38. I wouldn’t want to be working as a DWP Work Coach at the moment. Not with what they have got coming !


    July 9, 2020 at 1:59 pm

  39. My bet is that the government will raise the pension age for everybody by at least a couple of years to save have to pay the full pension to millions until they are 68 and many more will have passed away. This will mean that millions of people over 65, unable to get jobs, will be driven into poverty for years. In fact the buzz is that a new pension age of 70 is being seriously considered; it was laughed of several years ago when Iain Duncan Smith suggested it.

    Silver Surfer

    July 9, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    • I hope not, but I wouldn’t put it past them.


      July 9, 2020 at 2:47 pm

  40. Hazmat suits now mandatory for everyone attending Jobcentre Plus.

    ken's wishful thinking

    July 9, 2020 at 2:29 pm

  41. An’ i’ll be bettin’ ‘at we’ll hae nowt but boss promises up north.Yon sassenach government is abit as much use as a sit ay bags ‘at hae a hole in them.

    Angus McTavish

    July 9, 2020 at 3:25 pm

  42. It’s great to be on furlough,
    Who wants to work at all ?
    The work is hard, the hours long,
    And the pay is very small.

    I hope it lasts forever,
    And we never go back again,
    For who does it benefit really ?
    The bosses or the men ?

    Unlimited sex and Netflix,
    And getting up when you please,
    Cold beer in a garden deckchair,
    A life of comfort and ease.

    Random Poet

    July 9, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    • @random poet – Superb Random, though I think you may be casting pearls on here.

      Anthony Garvitt

      July 9, 2020 at 11:14 pm

    • If u work & do your best
      You’ll get the sack like all the rest
      If u laze & doss about
      You’re sure 2 c the job right out
      The hours r long the pay is small
      So sit about & sod ‘ em all
      Coz when your dead
      You’ll b forgot
      So do not try
      To do the bloody lot
      Or on your tombstone
      Neatly lacquered
      These 3 words
      ( believe me I AM knackered. . And In pain


      July 11, 2020 at 8:11 am

      • @katrehman – Very good, and if I may say so, highly expressive.

        Random Poet

        July 11, 2020 at 10:41 am

  43. The Universal Credit (UC) Fight Back: How to stop your home and devices becoming a digital workhouse and fight the UC rule to spend 35 hours a week searching for work


    Dear Work Coach/UC Agent/Jobcentre Manager,

    RE: Cookies on the devices I use, my CV and Work Search records

    Can you please arrange for me to be able to use a Jobcentre Internet Access Device so I can access my UC account and other websites, as I do not consent to cookies [1] on the devices I use. I make these requests based upon:

    “If you donʼt want to accept our cookie policy on your own computer you can:
    use an internet access device in your jobcentre on which cookies have been accepted”

    Guidance: ‘Find a job’ and other websites – what you need to know about cookies
    What if I do not want cookies to be installed on my device?
    You will not have been told to use ‘Find a job’ or another website unless you can use a DWP device if you want to. Ask your work coach about this. You can use the DWP device if you do not want to accept cookies or have chosen to delete cookies and do not want to accept them again. Cookies have already been accepted on all DWP devices.

    From now on I also prefer to show a copy of my up to date CV and my Work Search records at Jobcentre appointments, as no legislation requires me, to add them to my UC account. These requests are based upon DWP FOI replies:

    “It is not a mandatory requirement for the claimant to provide the required work search evidence via their journal. The clamant must be able to provide written evidence of their work search.

    It is not mandatory for the claimant to upload their CV onto the journal, the claimant must however be able to show a completed and up to date CV”
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/440131/response/1071484/attach/html/2/FoI%204528%20reply.pdf.html (FoI 4201 20th October 2017 )

    Section 23 of the Welfare Reform Act 2012, Chapter 2 does not compel me to provide my CV or Work Search records in “a particular way, only that it must be supplied if and when requested”
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/440131/response/1071484/attach/html/2/FoI%204528%20reply.pdf.html (FoI 4528 17th November 2017)

    The rules on cookies are covered by the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations 2003 (PECR) [2] and are regulated by the Information Commissioner’s Office [3] and I am aware I can raise concerns via https://wh.snapsurveys.com/s.asp?k=150296439091 and makeacomplaint.dwp.gov.uk

    Please amend my Claimant Commitment to reflect the above requests.

    Yours faithfully

    [1] https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-pecr/cookies-and-similar-technologies/
    [2] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2426/contents/made
    [3] https://ico.org.uk/


    DWP customer guidance: ‘Find a job’ and other websites – what you need to know about cookies
    UK ICO: How do the cookie regulations affect me?
    Universal Credit account cookies policy
    Help and support: https://advicelocal.uk
    Claimant Commiment info: https://claimantcommitments.org.uk


    July 9, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    • When a claimant exercises “their right not to accept cookies” of devices they use, the only option for Jobcentres is to provide use of a DWP Internet Access Device as says K5207 of Chapter K5: Low–level sanctions


      July 9, 2020 at 8:12 pm

      • I refused and the Jobcentre gave me a direction to use THEIR computers ever day for two hours to do Jobsearch in the Jobcentre. I refused and received a four week sanction. You cannot be forced to use your own computer, because of the EU legislation about cookies, but CAN be forced to use Jobcentre computers.


        July 11, 2020 at 2:41 pm

      • Entering and expecting the unemployed to provide sensitve personal details online sends the wrong message in that its ok to give NI numbers and other ID information to anyone and they have been been subject to the error of their ways and exploited by criminals.It was disgraceful headlines and victimisation of claimants that followed exposing Universal Credit.



        July 11, 2020 at 4:51 pm

  44. Calls for basic income payment to replace Universal Credit emerge again – here’s the DWP response

    Some have suggested a weekly payment of £89 for everyone – regardless of employment status – to replace the current benefits system



    July 9, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    • Coffey claims that the DWP/Benefits system is helping the poorest, if that was true they would have increased JSA and ESA by £20 per week, but they haven’t, so she’s lying.


      July 9, 2020 at 9:05 pm

      • just you wait and see what happens when they take away that 20 quid after 12 months with mass unemployment never seen b4 there will be a uproar in the media and that is when imo they will cave in and have to give the same amount to all on jsa and uc.


        July 9, 2020 at 9:31 pm

      • Back-paid to April 2020 😂, and a large sow was seen hovering over Westminster…


        July 9, 2020 at 9:42 pm

      • dont forget all this will need to be paid for so a 30% vat rate could be on its way sooner or later as gdp is over 100%

        thats like just paying the interest of a credit card yet still borrowing even more every day the uk is bankrupt!

        so the next time a wc says the benefits you receive are from the taxes they pay id put them straight on that one lol.

        dont forget we have had ten years off cuts yet the total borrowing has gone up 3 times what it was from ten years ago.

        the debt must be over 8 trillion atm and rising faster than ever.


        July 9, 2020 at 9:58 pm

      • Yeah I was reading about that the other day, if we go into negative interest it could cause a rush on the Banks, but it’s thought that the BoE won’t allow that to happen, one option is further QE but an alternative is for them to buy Bonds which is expected. Financial jiggery-pokery at the highest level, whilst at my level I dip into the leccy money to buy milk, bread and cat food, then pay the Water late to make up the leccy.


        July 9, 2020 at 10:12 pm

      • this is gods money trev and the more you print paper money the price will go even higher as gone up 60k in the last 6 months 😉


        July 9, 2020 at 10:48 pm

      • Printing too much money leads to hyper-inflation such as you see in Venezuela and Zimbabwe and in 1920s Germany. It is a potentially disastrous thing to do and makes things much worse for the poor, who see their limited spending power gurgling down the plughole like water. The UK is in dire straights people and everybody, particularly those with limited means or living on fixed incomes are going to be affected badly and I do mean REALLY BADLY!


        July 10, 2020 at 8:09 am

      • Corbyn wanted to do “quantitative easing for the people” and print money to give to the poor.

        Doris Stopes

        July 10, 2020 at 8:11 am

      • Corbyn was a f*cking idiot who did to Labour what Nick Clegg did to the Liberal Democrats, i.e., ruined their parties and put them out of power quite possibly for ever.


        July 10, 2020 at 8:14 am

      • @superted – Yep. Taking back that 20 quid is a political time-bomb. There is going to uproar from millions of claimants.


        July 11, 2020 at 11:40 am

  45. There are many that could learn from your shared wisdom Superted.It is humbeling.


    July 9, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    • @Doris Stopes: It would be far better if the Labour Party stopped using the C-word, Many people find it offensive,

      Jack Sprat

      July 11, 2020 at 10:38 am

  46. Don’t try to learn from his spelling, as his is as bad as yours.

    Dictionary Corner

    July 10, 2020 at 3:00 am

  47. So really the DWP has got a hopeless task ahead ? And whatever they do they are going to be crushed like miserable insects by the sheer size of the problem before them.


    July 10, 2020 at 12:32 pm

  48. superted

    July 10, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    • DWP to hand private firms millions as fit-for-work test contracts extended for third time



      July 10, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    • US grinding poverty with 35 hours of jobsearch with access to online expected.Universal Credit doesn’t overcome barriers into work and older people look abandonded and expected to retire later.

      Many staff are still on furlough in some areas one same shop can be open and in another closed that can lead to a slow bleeding death for more losses.


      July 10, 2020 at 4:26 pm

  49. ‘There is still no evidence that universal credit benefit is meeting its central aim of getting more people into work – while the costs of implementing it have risen by £1.4bn and it remains beset by delays, according to the government spending watchdog’. – Guardian
    So it’s going to cost another £ 1.4 Billion Pounds to finish the roll out ? And you see how they did this ? By keeping quiet about the true costs and the flaws of Universal Credit for years. While they rolled it out on the sly. There cannot now be any possible saving in changing over to Universal Credit. But it was never about saving money, not really. It was about changing the welfare system, and how it dealt with claimants.

    Tom Sutton

    July 10, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    • It was also supposed to be a cure for poverty. No the slightest sign of that happening either.


      July 10, 2020 at 3:16 pm

      • Not forgetting also that they reset the clock on Universal Credit, simultaneously sweeping £14.5 Billion (that they had already wasted) under the carpet as though it never happened. How convenient. It has been and continues to be a monumental disaster, a train wreck that represents the wholesale destruction of our Social Security system because of one man’s ego and incompetence. And that’s something they can never admit to, so on it goes.


        July 10, 2020 at 3:52 pm

      • @trev : Yes very true Trev. It’s been a massive waste of money from the very start. And people forget how much this has really cost. And the way the Tories kept changing the rules to keep it going.


        July 10, 2020 at 5:27 pm

  50. Universal Credit claims could cost government as much as the benefits it replaced, watchdog finds
    DWP must do more to support vulnerable claimants, NAO says in latest report



    July 10, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    • @ken : Too late now to stop Universal Credit. Labour should have done something 10 years ago.


      July 10, 2020 at 7:36 pm

      • In fairness in the beginning nobody knew how awful it was going to be. The Liberal Democrats were fully behind it as originally sold but nobody knew that after it had begun to get off the ground George Osborne would gut it in order to pay for tax cuts and then freeze it for four years leading us in the shit we’re neck deep in now. UC was never going to be that good but what little good was in it was removed by David Cameron’s Tory party early on.


        July 10, 2020 at 8:32 pm

      • @Falstaff – What utter rubbish ! In a time of government propaganda about the unemployed. With Duncan Smith howling about the skivers on welfare. Along with most of the British media. Universal Credit, and the ‘conditionality’ that went with it, was introduced to toughen up welfare in this country. Using the American system as a model. Everbody, Conservative, Labour and Liberal who were involved in the progress of the Welfare Reform Act 2012, knew exactly what was in Universal Credit. The strict conditions, the brutal sanction system. Miliband’s Labour shamefully went along with it, as did the Liberal Democrats and even the TUC. It was political ideology from the first. Right-wing cruelty from the Conservatives. Spineless collaboration from a Labour Party too scared to support people on benefits. And the self-seeking pragmatism of the Liberal Democrats. Don’t kid yourself nobody knew – they all knew, from day one.

        Tom Sutton

        July 10, 2020 at 10:29 pm

  51. Invest your saving in bitcoin which cannot be confiscated, tracked or devalued by governments. Abandon fiat currencies and invest your wealth in bitcoin or gold to insulate yourselves from the deadly winter chill about to strike globally.

    Max Keiser

    July 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm

  52. The DWP shouldt pay the legacy claimants the £20 per week. Because the longer they leave it, the more they are going to have to pay back. Much better to cough it up now, than have a court force them to pay it later on.

    Colin Claimant

    July 11, 2020 at 10:29 am

  53. What if the manager and staff at Gloucester Jobcentre had a collection in the office, and paid for @superted to have a free place on the Work & Health Programme ?
    Then he’d have to go.

    Jobcentre Jones

    July 11, 2020 at 10:46 am

    • they will still need there contracts signed as need my permission to process my personnel data.

      these 3rd party company’s are for profit and will sell your data for training purposes ect.


      July 11, 2020 at 12:07 pm

    • I think someone should start a petition on change.org to get Superted a place on the Work & Health Programme. Surely then Therese Coffey would take notice.

      Twinkle Toes

      July 11, 2020 at 1:29 pm

      • i have spent near 5 years sat in providers offices doing job searches ect they do not do anything to help anyone at all as you are classed as a profit unit.

        providers are used to hide the unemployed as classed as in training when on such scams for profit.


        July 11, 2020 at 1:46 pm

      • The thought crossed my mind,theres nothing thay can do and your seen as an item of worth,someone I’ve spoken to mentioned bullying being widespread in these programmes before they left everyone high and dry and I had the notorious no reference placement after bullying staff complaints and time/effort down the drain.


        July 11, 2020 at 4:04 pm

      • @Twinkle Toes – Mr.Superted may not be aware of this, but under certain circumstances, no actual signature is required of the claimant. It is taken to be in loco requiratur as it were. If the provider has been paid, then there is no bar to him continuing with the training course.

        Arthur Farnley-Howden

        July 11, 2020 at 6:02 pm

      • the first wp had a ref fee of £400 and still wanted there paperwork signed because of data protection and it has been the same for every provider i have been to in the last 15 years.

        i did not do the first wp yet the ref fee was paid, thats what you call fraud as the jcp thought i was going for the hole 2 years as no one said anything and when asked i said it was all going fine 😉


        July 11, 2020 at 6:15 pm

  54. “Hundreds of thousands of universal credit claimants have been forced to wait for around 11 weeks to receive their benefits, it has been revealed”




    July 11, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    • @trev: It shows the true reality of Universal Credit, and how an element of deliberate hardship and waiting was designed into it. Giving the system every opportunity not to pay anything at all, as people abandon their claims.

      David H.

      July 11, 2020 at 6:11 pm

      • Yes that’s very true David. I often make the mistake of blaming it on Tory incompetence, forgetting that it’s all by design and they’ve actually got what they set out to achieve, a dysfunctional Social Security system that kills the poor or forces them into wage-slave drudgery and never-ending debt. And I’ll never forget or forgive the Labour party for abstaining. The Class War runs deeper than just the Tories, it’s the entire Establishment holding their knee on our necks (to use popular parlance).


        July 11, 2020 at 7:13 pm

  55. And those who had to sign on due to losing their job due to covid19, some job centre advisors will try to refer them quickly to a training provider, as training providers will hope for a quick job outcome


    July 11, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  56. problem is the provider will need the claimant to tell them who the employer is that they are working for to get a job outcome payment.

    now if you found the job yourself with no help at all from a provider why would you tell them who the employer is in the first place thus why wp1 crashed and burned.


    July 11, 2020 at 8:38 pm

  57. Universal Credit ‘makes debt worse’ as 80% of poor families have payments docked

    A damming report from the National Audit Office has found the five-week wait for payment is ‘exacerbating’ people’s debt – as the cost of rolling out Universal Credit spirals by £1.4bn


    Theres no end to it,crisis after crisis and out of control with no sence of urgency from leading figures only saying lose weight.God help us.


    July 11, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    • No wonder foodbanks are operating at full capacity. Things can only get worse as more lose their jobs, and on top of all the Covid damage there is still Brexit yet to come. Universal Credit is unfit for purpose, it’s got to go. The Tories have got to go. I think when the Jobcentres reopen there will be an increase in people kicking off out of sheer frustration and desperation now that Joe Public are getting a taste of the Benefits system.


      July 11, 2020 at 9:51 pm

  58. ‘Worst is still to come’ as Covid-19 foodbank demand continues to soar
    Experts said this week’s announcements from the Chancellor “do not go anywhere near far enough to tackle the desperate crisis that is unfolding”

    “The lack of transport and in some cases no access to internet services isolates those in poverty even further. Food banks have been normalised and are becoming an acceptable part of how those experiencing poverty are supposed to survive. This shouldn’t be the case.”



    We could well be the country worst to emerge out of this in Europe.


    July 11, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    • Foodbanks are already stretched to the max. And one thing I’ve noticed again just recently as the shops have reopened and town centre footfall has increased, the beggars are back out in full force. There are people sitting outside the supermarkets begging for “spare change” every time I go or pass by, and on the way into town too. I just say “sorry, I’m on the dole” and usually that’s enough but a couple of times they have persisted with “haven’t you just got 50p?”. As if ! I might sometimes have some change but it certainly isn’t spare! Prepare to see a huge increase in street begging. The foodbank where I volunteer have been advised by the Council to fit extra locks and secure the building as best as possible. I’m surprised that we haven’t yet seen the implementation of Martial Law, it’s bound to happen eventually as Society breaks down.


      July 11, 2020 at 10:42 pm

      • In small, but growing, numbers they have returned in Ipswich, along with the street drinkers, spice smokers and take whatever they can getters.

        I would not give then a penny.

        Homeless people need housing (there is still widespread emergency accommodation in place), food banks and the rest, are available.

        As Trev might suggest, these are not going to be enough in coming months, when far more than those visible on the street, at the extreme limit of distress, those with very visible addictions, or those who lack of any sense of respect, are going to be affected.

        These are all going to be political issues, which local government is expected to help out with, without the money.

        Given this probability ten quid off eating out looks an insult.

        Andrew Coates

        July 12, 2020 at 6:25 am

      • I think the half-price meal deal is more intended to benefit the restaurant owners and pub landlords by increasing trade, only of negligible benefit to the public.


        July 12, 2020 at 10:41 am

  59. The chances of martial law being implemented here are slim to none Trev. Never happened in Britain. The reality is that for most life will go on much as before, 15% unemployment or whatever is nowhere near the kind of level that’s going to see the scale of unrest and disorder that would be needed to come even close to justifying martial law to anybody but the most insane of authoritarian cranks.


    July 12, 2020 at 1:32 am

  60. It’s amazing how many Tories still see the Foodbanks as a good thing, a sort of free supermarket for the unemployed.


    July 12, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    • Therese loves them. She is Catholic though and they believe that good works like that help the people manning them to clock up points for the afterlife and that a nice bit of honest to goodness suffering will help the people visiting them to buck up their ideas and get a job.

      Two Pickets for Titsberg

      July 12, 2020 at 6:25 pm

      • @ Two Pickets

        What you describe sounds more like the PWE, which has it’s roots in the esoteric belief in attaining ‘Ascension through Work in the Light of Knowledge’, i.e. Working one’s own way to Heaven, as opposed to the Catholic belief in Salvation through Faith, the former once being viewed as Heresy by the latter.


        July 12, 2020 at 6:42 pm

  61. The food sector looks to be heavily hit by coronavirus,once that happens the workforce is lost instantly,while there are more people about theres not many in shops locally.

    Scotland looks the most desirable place in the UK to live because there the government has acted more responsibly to this and reacted to it not the whackamole we’ve had to listen too while figures rise,hopefully that will attract more investment for them and a sucessful future.We’re being held hostage by this virus and while that continues it will get much worse.


    July 12, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    • Absolute bed wetting drivel from Ken as per usual. Get a grip of yourself you useless specimen.

      Nick Griffin

      July 12, 2020 at 1:46 pm

      • Why is Ken suddenly the focus of these negative comments ? Or is it the alt.right once again ?

        Jack Reid

        July 12, 2020 at 4:07 pm

      • Covid deniers?


        July 12, 2020 at 4:44 pm

      • Ken is very wisely ignoring the troll. Eventually it will starve to death.


        July 12, 2020 at 6:14 pm

  62. @ trev- There is no limit to human stupidity. One man in his 30s has recently died in Texas. He went to a ‘Covid Party’ , to prove there was no such thing as Covid 19, and that you couldn’t get infected !

    Jeff Smith

    July 12, 2020 at 4:59 pm

    • @ Jeff

      I just heard that story reported on BBC news this morning, beggars belief that anyone could be so stupid, but then again when you’ve got President Trump repeatedly denying any/all factual reporting as “fake news” this is what it leads to. Mind you, there was a Rave party in my town over the weekend with 300 young people turning up, and was broke up by the Police.


      July 13, 2020 at 9:03 am

      • He did wear a mask to visit the troops though and said he thought it made him look like the Lone Ranger. Huh? Lone Ranger? The Lone Ranger was a good guy. I thought Trump in a mask looked more like the super-villain Bane myself.

        Percy Noodles

        July 13, 2020 at 11:34 am

      • https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1295654/coronavirus-uk-death-rate-age

        ‘Of those that died we know 90 percent had underlying health conditions so the risk among healthy people is a fraction of the overall deaths.’

        Under 45? Chance of dying from coronavirus is one in 67,000, study suggests

        FEWER than 500 people under 45 died from coronavirus during the height of the pandemic new figures show – the equivalent to 15 in a million deaths, or one in 66,666.

        Pete Hitchens

        July 13, 2020 at 1:06 pm

      • I’ll stick to wearing my facemask thanks. Covid deaths in UK is at least 60,000 and would have been much more if we hadn’t taken necessary precautions.


        July 13, 2020 at 1:11 pm

      • on avg last year 1400 ppl die every day anyway add it up 😉


        July 13, 2020 at 1:21 pm

      • Sophistry at its best. People die all the time so there’s no point in protecting yourself and others from a pandemic? No need then for any Health & Safety laws, no point in stopping smoking, no point in banning drink drivers, no point in funding the NHS. I’m sure the Tories will love your logic! And the US Republicans definitely will.


        July 13, 2020 at 1:35 pm

      • its on the ons web site trev it is a fact same as face masks are useless because the size of a virus is smaller than any mask you wear so pointless.

        its all about control and it will only get worse you wait and see you give a mm and they take a mile.

        the death rate is 0.026% same as the flue


        July 13, 2020 at 1:44 pm

      • Like all things (tech) face mask as a mere ‘stepping stone’ to a place you don’t want to go. ‘Covid-19’ is following the script of ‘Contagion’. Where did you think compulsive-obsessive hand-washing, 2m ‘social distancing, blah, blah come from? In the film a vaccine is released. It is mandatory. You must wear a bracelet (like tag used to offenders) on your risk to enter places such as supermarkets, public building etc.
        Though nowadays it is more likely to be an embedded microchip. Some states in the USA have already moved to ban compulsory microchipping of employees. But people adapt. It quickly becomes the ‘new normal’. Fingerprint recognition technology is already used by many businesses in the UK, and practically all building sites. India uses retinal scanning for ID cards. The jobcentre uses biometric signatures for crying out loud. What is really scary, it’s not ‘Covid-19’ it is how adaptable the human species is, the most adaptable species on the planet. We go along to get along, we follow the herd, we turn on those who refuse to comply. This is how the bad farmer leads his flock to the slaughterhouse. We get everything we deserve.


        July 13, 2020 at 2:09 pm

      • Hand washing, safe social distancing, wearing facemasks, and staying indoors, are all reasonable precautions to take during a virus pandemic. Nothing whatsoever to do with microchips in your hands or biometric ID, etc.


        July 13, 2020 at 2:34 pm

      • Wearing masks is Satan-worshipping. In those Satanic, Occultist, Devil-worshipping films they are always wearing a mask. You never see them sacrificing a small child or a goat unmasked.

        Eyes Wide Shut

        July 13, 2020 at 2:21 pm

      • LoL now I’ve heard it all. What about the Lone Ranger, was he a Satanist too? Or Batman & Robin, Satanists? The Scarlett Pimpernel? 😷


        July 13, 2020 at 2:29 pm

      • Same with the hood put over the heads of prisoners about to be executed. They can’t breath. When that hood goes on you are already dead.

        Albert Pierrepoint

        July 13, 2020 at 2:23 pm

      • Funny you should mention that Albert, I am actually related to a Victorian hangman, the Public Executioner James Berry. I have a copy of his memoirs on my book shelf, not a pleasant read if truth be known.


        July 13, 2020 at 6:59 pm

      • In fairness the Phantom of the Opera, who wore a bit of a mask, were a bit naughty weren’t he?


        July 13, 2020 at 6:39 pm

      • Just misunderstood.


        July 13, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      • trev, the more ‘informed’ you think you are the more your head is stuffed with propaganda. Yep, the people who think they are ‘informed’. I bet you feel really ‘informed’ after watching BBC News.

        Jacques Ellul

        July 13, 2020 at 11:12 pm

      • @ Jacques

        Are you saying the story isn’t true just because the BBC covered it? The Texan Muppet didn’t really deliberately expose himself to Covid infection?
        I don’t necessarily believe everything I hear on the news, I have caught the BBC lying and disseminating disinfo a couple of times over the years but I’m savvy enough to make an informed decision having studied the Politics of Representation at University.


        July 14, 2020 at 9:51 am

      • Or should that be: BBC Propaganda, BBC Fear. But watching it you are complicit with the propagandist because to satisfies your need, your yearning for propaganda.

        Jacques Ellul

        July 13, 2020 at 11:14 pm

      • Or should that be: BBC Propaganda, BBC Fear. But watching it you are complicit with the propagandist because it satisfies your need, your yearning for propaganda.

        Jacques Ellul

        July 13, 2020 at 11:15 pm

      • Well, I didn’t realise that a former colleague at been struck down with Covid-19 whilst working abroad and spent the past few months in an induced coma, now on the road to recovery until I read it on the BBC (and reported elsewhere). So, that at least is true. Still, you have to exercise your discretion with the media particularly with the BBC. They have been caught out lying before, as has Putin’s RT and many others. Once a liar…


        July 14, 2020 at 10:00 am


    I had my telephone work search review appointment last week. It lasted all of about 5 minutes. It was more like a welfare check, really. You know, how are you? We haven’t forgotten about you. We do care about you, and so on. Was not asked any questions about my job search or asked to pony up any evidence. Jobcentres will remain closed for face to face reviews for the time being, as most libraries remain closed and a lot of claimants can’t do their job searches because of this. Consequently, they are not expecting claimants to do a big job search like they used to at the moment. Claimants on legacy benefits will continue to have their money paid straight into their accounts as usual. UC claimants’ claims require more maintenance, apparently. Presumably because their claims and payments, etc. are wholly digital whereas legacy claimants are all clerical, i.e. paper based. I will have another telephone review in a couple of weeks time.

    jj joop

    July 12, 2020 at 5:39 pm

  64. Apart from jj joop has anybody else been contacted or called in by the Jobcentre? Nobody I know who is affected where I live (South West) has received an email, phone call or letter by snail mail from the DWP since last March. Next Wednesday marks two weeks since the Jobcentres were supposed to be opening. I’m wondering how long I’ll be left alone before I get the call; I’m really, really hoping not for several more weeks or even longer because not having them breathing down my neck is blissful.


    July 12, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    • not had nothing yet.


      July 12, 2020 at 6:23 pm

      • Me neither, not a dicky bird.


        July 12, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    • Not a sausage the only thing I have heard back is the full report for my uc50, which be going on since last year. I have not even been to the tribual stage yet. my gp says one thing, the job centre doctor say I am capable of doing any and all jobs.

      I have a disability I am limited to the type of work I am capable of doing.


      July 12, 2020 at 7:32 pm

      • Nothing here either,with these reopenings’ theres very little going on behind the scene’s and people often have to wait outside.


        July 12, 2020 at 10:15 pm

      • Good to see the nail bars have finally reopened, that’ll make a big difference to my life – need some 2&half inch galvanised.


        July 13, 2020 at 8:39 am

      • Andrew Coates

        July 13, 2020 at 11:30 am

      • That’s a good article, and sadly very true.


        July 13, 2020 at 11:55 am

    • Ahah, so happy to know I’m not the only one. West Midlands lad here, heard zilch.


      July 12, 2020 at 8:35 pm

  65. There was a Work Coach named Bruno,
    Who said sex is something I do know,
    A sheep is fine,
    A woman divine,
    But a Llama is numero uno !!

    Lyrical Larry

    July 12, 2020 at 8:24 pm

  66. Saw the Trussel Trust mentioned in an ASDA advert on commercial TV recently. What’s that’s all about. ASDA trying to look like the good guys or something?


    July 13, 2020 at 11:39 am

  67. superted

    July 13, 2020 at 1:51 pm

  68. 13,500 work coaches, hand-picked for sadistic tendencies and lack of empathy.
    Tested for a ruthless obedience to instruction, and lack of imagination
    Then trained in the new DWP psychological system of SanctionSpeak
    The new Work Coach Professional, WCP
    Coming soon to a Jobcentre near you….


    July 13, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    • “a ruthless obedience to instruction” sounds like ken and trev and all the other lockdown fanatics on here.

      Nudge Theorist

      July 13, 2020 at 7:25 pm

      • Where wanton abandon in the name of misguided liberty breeds ignorance and possible death, lockdown fanatics are survivalists.


        July 13, 2020 at 7:38 pm

      • dont worry trev the dwp will sanction you to death lol but a bus stopped next to me and a few ppl got off but no one had a face mask on not even the driver.

        and tbh i have not seen anyone with a face mask on in months or gloves and no one is dropping down dead.

        i even asked the guy in the small local shop i go to every day does he know anyone round here that has died and he said no one he knows and serves 100s of ppl a day.

        there is a sign on the door that says only 2 ppl in the shop at any time and no one take any notice of it since day 1.


        Gloucestershire Health and Care NHS Foundation Trust has reported 34 deaths and Gloucestershire NHS Foundation Trust has 193 deaths recorded, no change since yesterday.

        more ppl are going to die in the next 6 months from not getting hospital treatment but thats fine tho 😉


        July 13, 2020 at 8:03 pm

      • Many people can have Covid with no symptoms but then pass it on to others who may not be so lucky. By ignoring sensible precautions people are prolonging the pandemic.


        July 13, 2020 at 8:17 pm

      • yet the numbers show it kills no more than in any flue season as the death rate is 0.026%

        COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless


        so there not even testing for a virus just for the genetic material that every one has so the more flawed tests you do the more the numbers go up.

        so if you want to say lock down a city just do more flawed tests simple as that.

        and the guy that invented that test also told everyone not to use it as it is not fit for purpose.


        July 13, 2020 at 8:47 pm

      • @Nudge Theorist – There is safety in Lockdown.


        July 13, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    • Are those the ones in the black uniforms with the flip-down visors ?

      Jobcentre Jones

      July 13, 2020 at 9:21 pm

  69. Unfortunatly when there are faults’ with the system and a collapse for a reason there are others who will seek to shift the blame.


    July 13, 2020 at 6:27 pm

  70. @trev: Superted doesn’t really believe in coronavirus, he’s a vaccine denier, and worst of all, he sti
    does not realise that the 35 Hour Jobsearch is a basic part of Universal Credit.

    Jack Reid

    July 13, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    • Let me guess, Coronavirus is merely an expectation not a required outcome?


      July 13, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    • Surely nobody still believes that load of cobblers Jack ? Of course there is a 35 Hour Jobsearch, everyone knows that.


      July 13, 2020 at 9:26 pm

      • i set my own expectations as what i am required buy law to do to claim benefits. 😉


        July 13, 2020 at 9:29 pm

  71. DWP issues important update ushering in change for benefit claimants

    The Department for Work and Pensions is responsible for overseeing and administering a number of benefits claimed by people across the country. These include Universal Credit, Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Disability Living Allowance (DLA), and Employment and Support Allowance (ESA).

    seems jsa does not exist anymore and any question about the extra £20 a week will be ignored for jsa claimants so do not give a crap if all 200.000 of us just starved or froze to death on the street.

    tho on the other hand i cant see us lot going to the jcp office anytime soon to sign on as when the furlough ends in October millions more will be on uc so might be even next year us lot has a face to face as 27000 wc is not going to cut it 😉



    July 13, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    • @ superted

      Isn’t it amazing how they don’t ever even mention JSA anymore? It’s like by ignoring it we will go away, but JSA is becoming more conspicuous by its absence, though crucially probably not in the public eye.

      And then there’s this:

      “All benefit services continue to remain open amid the pandemic, to provide Britons with the vital support they need.”

      Britons? So those in Northern Ireland don’t count. I thought the DWP covered the UK.


      July 13, 2020 at 9:47 pm

      • As Plato himself said, if you stop thinking about something it doesn’t exist anymore. This appears to be the DWP’s philosophy: they have stopped thinking about legacy JSA claimants, ergo they do not exist.


        July 13, 2020 at 11:09 pm

      • @trev. The DWP don’t want to mention the legacy JSA / ESA claimants because it shows up the cruel way they have been treated.


        July 13, 2020 at 11:33 pm

      • Ulster is British. No Surrender.

        Gusty Spence

        July 14, 2020 at 12:56 pm

      • Northern Ireland is part of the UK but it’s not a part of Britain. Britain is compromised of England, Scotland and Wales. The United Kingdom consists of Britain and Northern Ireland.


        July 14, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    • The jokecentre are going to haul in the claimants ‘closest to the labour market’, the ones most likely to quickly reconnect with the labour market. The jobcentre will want to move them on fast as the late Iain Duncan Smith would say “before unemployment becomes an ingrained habit’. The old guard legacy jsa claimants will be left to their own devices and to beat their chest over their missing twenty quid.

      JSA Legacy: The Old Guard

      July 13, 2020 at 10:42 pm

      • JSA legacy claimants are IMMORTAL! Their claims will never end!


        July 14, 2020 at 10:34 am

      • Indeed! Superted has been claiming since the Middle Ages!


        July 14, 2020 at 10:35 am

      • ken has been claiming since the STONE AGE!

        ken's great great gran

        July 14, 2020 at 10:37 am

  72. Coronavirus: Face coverings in England’s shops to be compulsory from 24 July



    July 13, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    • Thats fine if everyone has one and worn to the exact meaning but it isn’t,many people cannot ware one and packets come with a warning if feeling unwell.Another reason for the extra £20


      July 14, 2020 at 12:16 am

      • Forget masks, ken you need a proper respirator like you see the Chinese first responder personnel lwearing.

        North 760008A Silicone Full Facepiece Respirators 7600 Series – Face Piece Only
        by Honeywell
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        Designed to provide eye, face and respiratory protection while ensuring optimal comfort and performance.
        Dual flange silicone seal give this facepiece superior fitting characteristics.
        Hard-coated polycarbonate lens provides over 200° field-of-vision and protects the wearer’s eyes and face against irritating gases, vapors and flying particles.
        Lens meets ANSI standards for high impact and penetration resistance. Compatible with North cartridges, filters and accessories. NIOSH approved.
        Cartridges and Filters Sold Separately

        First Responder

        July 14, 2020 at 9:19 am

      • Facemasks are the final nail hammering in the coffin of offline retail. By design? Will leave that to the conspiracy theorists. Off to book an online shop – for the first time 😉

        From BBC Propaganda: Online grocer Ocado says the switch to internet shopping amid the coronavirus lockdown has led to a “permanent redrawing” of the retail landscape.

        Its comments came as it said sales during the first half of 2020 jumped 27% to more than £1bn.

        “The world as we know it has changed,” said chief executive Tim Steiner.

        “As a result of Covid-19, we have seen years of growth in the online grocery market condensed into a matter of months; and we won’t be going back.”

        “We are confident that accelerated growth in the online channel will continue, leading to a permanent redrawing of the landscape of the grocery industry worldwide.”

        Nickolas Zulauf

        July 14, 2020 at 9:32 am

      • ken, masks won’t stop YOU catching the deadly virus! They are not meant to!

        I found a specialty eyewear store online that sells the prescription glasses that are designed to be inserted inside this respirator. They are North model #760024. You can’t buy them on Amazon, but you can get them at safevision (dot) net. You can order them pre-made with your prescription.

        For the CoronaVirus, buy 7580P100 filters. They were sold-out on Amazon when I bought the mask, but I found the filters on a different e-auction-site called ebay (you can guess the site).

        Follow the included instructions to test for leaks and correct fitment of the filters.

        This mask seals 100%. It is very comfortable and easy to fit on your face. It is FAR, FAR better than N95 masks… if you buy the correct filters.

        The mask is designed so that when you inhale, the fresh, cool air comes in to keep your face cool, and helps to de-fog the clear plastic part of the mask. It is much more comfortable than the N95 masks.

        I was surprised when I went to a big-box store with a Walmart in the name. Nobody even looked at me twice. It was as-if it is “normal” to wear a full-face mask in public!

        Later, I went to a convenience store. The only person who noticed or made a comment about my full-face respirator was an employee in the store. He said, “THAT’s the kind of mask that everyone needs!”

        This is true. 100% particulate air filtration (with the P100 filters), and a perfect seal on your face… and complete eye/nose/mouth protection. Read the manual to learn how to tighten the straps and test the air seal. If you have the correct filters… you are WAAYYYY better protected than people who are wearing N95 masks… and even better protected than people who are wearing surgical masks (which only protect those around you).

        Wally Mart

        July 14, 2020 at 10:15 am

      • Which is better? This mask or a scarf?


        July 14, 2020 at 10:19 am

      • People seem to forget that Covid-19 can enter your body through your eye!


        July 14, 2020 at 10:21 am

      • If the government were serious about protecting us from this coronavirus they would be providing everyone with a proper mask like they did in world war two. Wearing facemasks is just silly and offers very little or no protection from coronavirus. I still have my world war two gas mask and will be wearing that if I ever have to venture outdoors.

        ken's gran

        July 14, 2020 at 10:26 am

      • That’s a good point. The Government should be distributing proper facemasks to everyone. Fat chance.


        July 14, 2020 at 10:33 am

      • The nation was bankrupt during world war two yet the government provided every man woman and child with a proper protection. Imagine if Churchill had told us to fashion a mask out of a pair of knickers to protect us from the Nazis! Fast forward to 2020 we are still bankrupt as a nation yet still no proper government provided protection. Until we are provided with proper protection we know that the government is not serious about protecting us from this virus. It reeks of a taking the Michael exercise.


        July 14, 2020 at 10:45 am

    • I am a Nurse who takes care of covid19 patients most of my shift. Nobody would normally wear this mask for long periods of time but for my safety I wear this mask my whole 12 hour shift and get PPE rest breaks in between. I feel an uncomfortable feeling on my forehead and when I take the mask off my forehead is sore and red. There is somewhat a hard part of the mask that is pressing against my forehead that makes my forehead sore. But overall I like this mask because it gives me 100 percent seal and makes my breathing easier especially during busy shift that I have to be running around in the ICU. The mask is somewhat on the expensive side as well as the accessories that comes with it but its worth the money that I paid as long as it protects me from contracting the virus. I recommend this mask for any healthcare worker who have problems fitting half mask.

      First Responder

      July 14, 2020 at 9:24 am

  73. If the DWP don’t come across with the 20 quid, then the legacy JSA will have no choice but to withdraw their jobsearch activities. We are not going to jobsearch if we are not treated equally.

    Dave Blunt

    July 13, 2020 at 9:45 pm

  74. notice how they say face masks are compulsory, they won’t use the word mandatory cause its a jobcentre word.

    anyone who clears their throat in a jobcentre will be getting sanctioned.

    big bird

    July 14, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    • @ big bird

      I wonder if facemasks will be compulsory in the Jobcentre too? No mask, can’t sign on = Sanction. If that’s the case then they need to provide masks at the entrance.


      July 14, 2020 at 1:31 pm

  75. I have had a response from an employment agency via email, most staff who work there are still on furlough,


    July 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm

  76. job offer by email or phone call https://usjoboffers.blogspot.com job offer m


    October 1, 2020 at 9:57 am

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