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Coronavirus Ireland: emergency unemployment payment of €203.

 

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Bold Measures in Ireland. 

Irish Mirror. 

The Government has introduced an unemployment payment of €203 per week for anyone whose employer can’t pay them during the coronavirus pandemic.

Any employees who have lost their jobs or any self-employed people will be eligible to get the payment for up to six weeks.

The Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection said: “COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment has been introduced for anyone whose employer is unable to continue to pay them.

“The payment is available to all employees and the self-employed who have lost employment due to the pandemic.

“You will get a payment of €203 per work for up to six weeks (as applicable).”

I am pretty aware that the Irish welfare system is far from perfect, and the health service is part privatised and requires, expensive,  individual insurance.

But this is a good move.

Here:

This is what our boss is tweeting about:

The DWP could at least start by ending the sanctions regime.

Ireland: 

COVID-19 (coronavirus) and social welfare payments

COVID-19, also known as coronavirus, is a new illness that can affect your lungs and airways. Ireland is trying to reduce transmission of the virus by implementing a range of measures.

The following measures are in effect until Sunday 29 March 2020:

  • Schools, colleges and childcare facilities are closed from the evening of 12 March
  • Indoor mass gatherings of 100 people or more and outdoor mass gatherings of more than 500 people should be cancelled
  • All State-run cultural institutions are closed
  • All pubs have been advised to close from midnight on 15 March
  • People have also been asked not to have house parties.

Back in the UK:

Written by Andrew Coates

March 16, 2020 at 11:34 am

1,272 Responses

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  1. The UK Gov. should close Jobcentres and libraries to the public and suspend all Conditionality relating to out-of-work Benefits (i.e. signing appointments and jobsearch requirements) and commence automatic payments for the foreseeable future. But no one is listening, not even my own (Labour!) MP.

    trev

    March 16, 2020 at 11:58 am

    • @trev- I totally agree with you there Trev. But you can bet the Tories won’t be handing out any free money to the unemployed, whatever happens.

      Jeff Smith

      March 16, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    • If you close libraries many people will not be able to apply for UC and job search, amongst many, many, other things.

      Andrew Coates

      March 16, 2020 at 1:17 pm

      • If they just suspend conditionality requirements such as providing a signature for JSA, and jobsearch evidence, then that alone would mean far fewer people having to use public libraries or having to attend the Jobcentre. The roll-out of UC could also be suspended for the time being. Of course new claims would have to go ahead so yes libraries would still be needed for that.

        trev

        March 16, 2020 at 1:38 pm

      • Coranavirus can live on a keyboard for 72 hours though.

        Sami

        March 17, 2020 at 12:02 am

      • Hopefully not for much longer.

        Israeli researchers make ‘significant breakthrough’ on coronavirus vaccine

        The Israel Institute for Biological Research has completed the development phase of a Covid-19 antibody

        https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israeli-researchers-make-significant-breakthrough-on-coronavirus-vaccine-1.499473

        ken

        May 5, 2020 at 11:56 pm

  2. We have only got brown toilet paper left take it or leave it. Uurrrgggg but brown toilet paper. The snobs & the pickiness is getting to be like Peckham Spring Water. We do not want brown toilet paper. Down the food bank they go oh good more toilet paper we don’t care what colour it is. But the Tory Voters are going but Urrrgggg But brown toilet paper. Stop moaning & use the brown toilet paper. UUuuurrrggg brown toilet paper.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 16, 2020 at 12:38 pm

  3. You notice how people on benefits have been completely ignored by the government during this crisis ?

    Alan Turner

    March 16, 2020 at 12:51 pm

  4. As for the Irish payment of 203 Euros – good idea. But you have zero chance of Corona Coffey going through with this.

    Burt

    March 16, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    • You can say that again amigo !

      H.Upmann

      March 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    • Face-to-face assessments for sickness and disability welfare payments will be suspended for three months to protect vulnerable claimants from coronavirus.

      The Department of Work and Pensions said the temporary move will come into effect from Tuesday as ministers ramp up efforts to stymie the spread of Covid-19.

      It is hoped that binning the face-to-face meetings will protect claimants from potentially catching the virus.

      So far, 35 people have died after testing positive for the virus in the UK, with 1,391 cases recorded.

      Andrew Coates

      March 16, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    • I drove my mate down to the jobcentre and it was still open, business as usual. She said that the security goons were coughing and sputtering all over the place, as well as a few of the roaches. She also said that the roach wouldn’t fill in the date and time of the next appointment in her booklet. The roach never touched the booklet. There was a pen on the desk for her to do it herself. If this coronavirus is for real we are in really big trouble. How stupid can a government department be?

      Lambo

      March 16, 2020 at 3:57 pm

      • This was this morning.

        Lambo

        March 16, 2020 at 3:58 pm

  5. We are witnessing the fall of Capitalism & I am make jokes about the fall of Capitalism. It don’t work, even the tax payer can’t bail out the banks & the Stock Exchange like last time. Serco is now asking for a Government bail out.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 16, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    • Capitalism has been replaced by corporatism, when the banks were bailed out last time the money was supposed to go back into the economy, to help small businesses etc, but the greedy bankers stole it all. Benefit and pension payments should be a lot higher than they are and that’s because successive governments going back to thatcher have stolen the ni contributions, that’s why they keep raising the retirement age, pretending they’re running out of money as though it’s the peoples fault for living to long!

      Tigerlily

      March 16, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    • Stock markets have always bounced back… when you least expect it. Like when you have remortgaged your home to put a bet on the market going down further (shorting it). The smart money makes money on the way down, and money on the way back up. The move upwards will be just as sharp and unexpected as the move downwards. If we could predict these movements we would all be rich.

      Stockbroker

      March 16, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    • Big money is also made in highly volatile markets as we are seeing now. The VIX Volatility Index is currently at 78 – anything over 50 and it’s hold tight for the ride.

      Stockbroker

      March 16, 2020 at 4:07 pm

      • VIX, is that not something you scrub the floor with, love?

        Old Edna

        March 16, 2020 at 4:12 pm

      • It’s also good for a blocked nose.

        Colin from Immingham

        March 16, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    • And whether this coronavirus is real or not one thing is for certain: it is making and will make many people even richer than they already are.

      Stockbroker

      March 16, 2020 at 4:10 pm

  6. 35 people have died because of the virus over 1200,000 have died at the DWP care of duty welfare reform. DWP Deaths don’t count !!! Hide the report !!!.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 16, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    • 120,000*

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      March 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    • 15 people have died from ‘coronavirus’. 15 MILLION disabled people have been MURDERED by the DWP.

      Razor Stepping

      March 16, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  7. I would love this uc + an extra 203 euros for 6 weeks, that will cover the money i lost being moved from jsa to uc, I got an extra 35 pounds per weeks because I got DLA/PIP

    my_final_username

    March 16, 2020 at 2:46 pm

  8. 203 euros = £183.80

    Black Jack Mulligan

    March 16, 2020 at 2:54 pm

  9. My assumption is that unless the DWP say different and/or the Jobcentre closes we just carry on as (ab)normal. If businesses start closing or running with skeleton staff they won’t probably be advertising new vacancies, in which case what are people going to do for jobsearch and such like? (If the Jobcentre that we go to is open I doubt that the “conditionality” it imposes on us will be relaxed.) Surely under such exceptional circumstances like a pandemic claimant commitments will have to be waived? I doubt even the DWP would want stories appearing in the newspapers about people being sanctioned for “self-isolating” or not fulfilling everything they agreed to, under normal conditions, on their CC. Isn’t it about time that the DWP told us in plain English what the score is? Or will, as usual, the people most affected going to be the last ones to know roughly where they stand?

    Ro

    March 16, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    • Always the standard applying for jobs via employment agencies

      DWP certain won’t want these reports in newspaper

      my_final_username

      March 16, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    • Here their saying in the Peterborough area.

      Scores of job vacancies revealed in Peterborough to help during coronavirus crisis
      Vacancies in vital jobs in Peterborough and the surrounding area are available for people seeking work during the coronavirus pandemic.

      Many of these require skills when applying and are not walk into as the article suggests,as for Find A Job I’ve struggled to find anything on there,it might help those recently laid off.

      https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/business/scores-job-vacancies-revealed-peterborough-help-during-coronavirus-crisis-2552467

      ken

      April 28, 2020 at 10:21 pm

  10. Why is Tesco’s share price tanking at the same time as their shelves are being stripped bare?

    Warren Buffet

    March 16, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    • Investors are panicking over low sales volume. Tesco made a bad move at the beginning of the year. They bought a load of toilet tissue. They haven’t been able to shift it since. With low toilet roll sales volumes investors have plenty to worry about.

      Hedge Fund

      March 16, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    • Tesco doesn’t warehouse stock but uses “just in time” for ordering and delivery. This means that they can only replenish stock if they get large daily deliveries pretty much direct to their supermarkets or hubs that supply their supermarkets. Most of food comes from EU countries and with Italy, France and Spain etc., shutting down Tesco can get enough deliveries to keep their business profitable, quite possibly for many months. Who would want to keep their money in any company quite that vulnerable? Not me. Not a lot of people.

      Maximillian

      March 16, 2020 at 3:49 pm

  11. This panic buying is like a wildfire which burns hot for a short while and then goes out. Once people have filled their fridges, freezers and cupboards with food and drink there won’t be room for much more and the shops will be able to gradually fill their shelves again. I can understand the demand for non-perishable food and drink and even hand-sanitiser but toilet rolls? Out of all the things that people could hoard why the heck hoard toilet rolls? The British are bat-shit crazy if you ask me.

    Sluggo

    March 16, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    • Toilet tissue is worse than useless if you you have the flu. It is awful do blow your nose on, It has a kind of sharpness to idle, and it releases fibre that irritate your nose. You will lose your appetite and be stuck in bed for days so won’t even be on the crapper. And you still won’t have much of an appetite after you recover. All you need is a load of tissues, flu medicine and fluids. This panic buying of toilet tissue is NUTS!!

      Bog Roll

      March 16, 2020 at 4:27 pm

      • **It has a kind of sharpness to it.

        Bog Roll

        March 16, 2020 at 4:28 pm

  12. well if the dwp was going to do it they would put every one on extended sick leave for 3 months and do phone interviews for 3 months and no sick note required.

    you would still have to job search tho but this could also be turned off but would need a new cc being signed for that time.

    superted

    March 16, 2020 at 3:55 pm

    • My gp gave me a fit note from December 2019 to June 2020, because of my anxiety etc, that I can only work in certain types of jobs. Even my work coach at the job centre says I got limited capablity of my disability of the type of work I can do.

      I still do job search weekly. incase I get a diffeent advisor who wants to see I am still job searching because I claim uc

      I am still waiting and appealing with my uc50, and now with the threat of the increase of the virus, the tribual will probably not happen for another couple of months now.

      my_final_username

      March 16, 2020 at 5:44 pm

      • i lost my tribunal as said i was fit for work cos could lift a empty card board box with my left arm and could balance the box against my body.

        yeah not going to happen is it pmsl 😉

        superted

        March 16, 2020 at 5:57 pm

  13. If you get coronavirus unless you already have issues with your health or unlucky as shit you are almost sure to recover. So why worry, be happy.

    Kool Kat

    March 16, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    • @trev- Might be wise to go in anyway Trev. If you are not infected. Better safe than sorry with the DWP.

      Pete

      March 16, 2020 at 5:54 pm

      • Yes Pete, I haven’t been instructed otherwise so I will attend my signing appointment as normal. Might wrap a scarf around my mush, just to be on the safe side.

        trev

        March 16, 2020 at 6:06 pm

  14. Before you go crazy ask yourself how many people in your neighbourhood has this virus. I’ll bet it’s “0”…

    Violet

    March 16, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • Back in February 2018, something similar happened, a Chinaman farted and the stock market ‘plunged’ 10% in one day. Anyway, it seemed to peter out quickly. Apparently the Chinaman quickly recovered and so did the stock market.

      Rose

      March 16, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    • There have only been 5 cases of coronavirus identified so far in the whole of Cornwall and no new ones during the last week.

      Ro

      March 16, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    • Panicking, placing yourself under needless stress and anxiety is not good for your health. Chill out, maaaaaaaaaaaan 😀

      Dr in the House

      March 16, 2020 at 6:56 pm

  15. Latest news: Everybody with symptoms of coronavirus – coughing, a runny nose, a sore throat, tempreature or a fever – should self-isolate for FOURTEEN DAYS! Including benefit claimants by order of the Prime Minister.

    The Forth Horseman

    March 16, 2020 at 6:03 pm

  16. FFS Boris – SHUT DOWN THE JOBCENTRES!!!

    Suspend Benefits conditionality and jobsearch requirements.

    Pay Benefits automatically without interviews or signing.

    trev

    March 16, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    • If the Jobcentres are not immediately shut down, then the government will face an all-out claimants strike.

      Red Len

      March 16, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      • I shall put that to my Members and pass a Motion….(blows whistle)…”EVERYBODY OUT!!!”

        trev

        March 16, 2020 at 8:07 pm

      • ALL OUT! DOWN SIGNING-ON PENS!

        Red Robbo

        March 16, 2020 at 8:13 pm

  17. Can I have yet another Government bail-out please? 🙂

    Sir Richard Branson

    March 16, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    • Can we have some more tax ?

      Tax Collector

      March 16, 2020 at 7:55 pm

      • Oh, island in the sun
        Willed to me by my father’s hand
        All my days I will sing in praise
        Of your forest, waters, your shining sand

        Jamaica Inn

        March 16, 2020 at 7:59 pm

  18. Must admit I’ve not heard anything from the local Jobcentre about JSA people not having to go in.
    You could land yourself a sanction here easy enough.

    Dave B.

    March 16, 2020 at 7:52 pm

  19. “Everyone is helping themselves and leaving nothing for the old ones.”

    Overheard In B&M

    March 16, 2020 at 8:06 pm

  20. “Excuse me, you will have to put that back. One case only.” *to a customer with a trolley overflowing with UHT milk

    Overheard In Lidl

    March 16, 2020 at 8:07 pm

  21. “The PM has called a Cobra meeting. There is nothing in the backroom that the customers want.”

    Overheard In Sainsburys

    March 16, 2020 at 8:11 pm

  22. Hello trev 😀 *waves*

    Colin from Immingham

    March 16, 2020 at 8:18 pm

  23. trex, remember me? I posted as ‘Miss Prunella Holt-Carthorpe, Headmistress, Loxley Academy For Young Ladies’ but you traced my IP and busted my ass 😀 ha ha 😀

    Colin from Immingham

    March 16, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    • I think it might have been a different trev, I have no such technical abilities, only psychic abilities.

      trev

      March 16, 2020 at 8:48 pm

  24. @superted My assessment was quite interesting last year, my Dad went with me, she asked me could I fold a piece of paper in half. Still not been to my tribual, hopefully after the long report back of the reasons why I disgree with the reasons

    I can do some work, it will cost alot more for companies to pay out if I injury myself, if I have stated about my disablities, co-ordinations problems being put in a job field I am not suited at, because the dwp wants someone off claiming uc.

    We see what happens

    my_final_username

    March 16, 2020 at 8:48 pm

  25. Breaking news…

    From RT:

    Stay home!’ France mobilizes 100,000 police to enforce coronavirus lockdown

    More to follow…

    Corana Virus Breaking News

    March 16, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    • It doesn’t look good.

      British ‘superspreader’ is linked to 11 Wuhan coronavirus cases, and it shows just how hard it can be to track new virus

      https://www.businessinsider.com/british-man-deemed-superspreader-for-infecting-people-with-coronavirus-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

      That was back in early Feburary.

      ken

      March 23, 2020 at 11:18 pm

      • Zombie hoards are fleeing London, ken. They might even be in your community. Zombies from all over the UK have been fleeing to the Highlands of Scotchland and Snowdonia in Wales – and been told they are not welcome and to go back home. Unlike every other European country the UK borders are still wide open for any zombies to enter. The whole situation in the UK has been so badly mismanaged that our only real hope is that this virus is a hoax. But if you see the body bags being taken out in your local community you will know that it is for real.

        28 Days Later

        March 23, 2020 at 11:27 pm

  26. From RT

    The Dow Jones had plummeted nearly 3,000 points – 2,997.1, to be exact – at the close of trading on Monday, finishing down 12.93 percent as markets continued to slide despite tripping a circuit-breaker minutes after opening.

    The S&P 500 sank a whopping 12 percent, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 13 percent. The Dow has dropped over 30 percent since opening at a high on February 12. This latest Dow drop is the worst since the infamous Black Monday crash in 1987.

    Corana Virus Breaking News

    March 16, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    • The way the stock market is tanking must mean we are all going to DIE!! Our pension funds are evaporating. But we won’t need them anyway since we will all be DEAD!! A market bottom has to be found soon because the way this is going there will be no equity left by the end of the week.

      Dow Jones

      March 16, 2020 at 11:39 pm

  27. work coaches are scared to death of claimants at the moment. my appointment today lasted 1 second wc didn’t even speak. just through a pen across the table for me to sign on and gave me my next appointment.

    no mention of what is going on.

    the whole world is going into lockdown, but not for jsa claiments we still have to sign on its disgusting the prime minister ignoring us.

    if I get a runny nose there is no way I am missing an appointment, not after I signed on 6 weeks ago and my wc was coughing and blowing her nose everywhere. A couple of days later I got a cold.

    big bird

    March 16, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    • It’s very shabby treatment, we JSA claimants are being told nothing, all the official DWP statements of advice so far are aimed at those on Universal Credit or about the self-employed. I sign on tomorrow morning and I won’t know if the appointment has been cancelled or not until I get there.

      trev

      March 16, 2020 at 11:29 pm

      • Let us know, trev, will you?

        Seth

        March 16, 2020 at 11:46 pm

      • It’s half eight in the morning, I just rang the jobcentre, was on hold for about 15 mins., got told JSA signing appointments are going ahead and that the Jobcentres are all open as normal. Boris needs to sort this out ffs.

        trev

        March 17, 2020 at 8:41 am

      • There is no real difference between these face-to-face disability assessments, and ordinary Jobseekers Allowance people going in to sign-on. The health assessments obviously take longer. But signing-on still has the same face-to-face contact with a Work Coach The principle is exactly the same. And so is the risk of infection. It doesn’t take more than a few seconds of contact with the virus to become infected. There is no need to be in contact with someone for 30 minutes or more. A 10 minute signing-on appointment is quite enough, if you are that unlucky. So why are Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants being put at risk in this manner by the DWP ? As a punishment for not ‘playing the game’ and transferring to Universal Credit ?

        Jeff Smith

        March 16, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    • That’s how it spreads. It is usually takes one or two days before it hits you. And you think back and realise it was that fucking roach sneezing on me.

      Rhinovirus

      March 16, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    • Yeah, you may as well take as many as the fuckers down with you. The signing pens should be disinfected and sterilised between each use.

      Colt

      March 16, 2020 at 11:51 pm

      • Seriously, don’t touch the pens.My Jobcentre has put all the Jobseeker’s Allowance people back on the old paper forms. So you sign on with a stubby black biro that about a hundred people have used before you. Take your own biro in, and when you get offered the black stubby, just smile and say you have your own pen.

        John H.

        March 17, 2020 at 12:00 am

      • So should the Work Coaches.

        Dave B.

        March 17, 2020 at 12:01 am

      • Within a fortnight ~150 jobseekers (~ roach caseload) will have touched that pen. Scary!

        The Plague

        March 17, 2020 at 6:17 am

      • You can touch anything, just don’t then touch your eyes, mouth, nose or face afterwards. And wash your hands thoroughly, as soon as you can, so you don’t spread any infection.

        Aggie

        March 17, 2020 at 6:25 am

      • You need a bottle of the proper hand sanitiser. The stuff that you can use without water. Unfortunately, it seems to be like gold dust at the moment.

        Maggie

        March 17, 2020 at 9:07 am

      • If you haven’t got hand sanitiser lave your hands with surgical spirit or mentholated spirit.

        Heathcliff

        March 17, 2020 at 10:25 am

  28. Corona Virus Local Community Update:

    Reported Infections: 0, Deaths: 0

    Boris

    March 17, 2020 at 6:12 am

  29. Buck up, trev. It’s not like “going over the top” of a trench during the first world war. You people really are chicken aren’t you? With a 99% to 96% of surviving the virus if you’re under 70 and have no significant underlying health problems, even if you get the virus you are pretty much certain to survive infection. Jesus. No wonder you guys aren’t successful and have to rely on handouts paid for by others in order to survive and need other braver people to fight your battles for you.

    “What did you do today?”

    “Signed on at the Jobcentre.”

    “Really! On your own!? Wow! You deserve a medal!”

    How completely and utterly craven, hopeless and pathetic.

    Kegsie

    March 17, 2020 at 6:35 am

    • Indeed, Kegsie, our forebears endured the most unimaginable horrors during the World Wars? And what for? To save the skins of trev and the rest of this generation of pathetic woke losers with their ‘space spaces’, ‘micro-aggressions’, ‘-phobias’, ‘hate speech’, ‘hurt feelings’, ‘politically correct’ crap and other assorted horseshit. Like they have fought in the trenches, ran for their lives through the jungles of Burma with the Japs on their arse, been shot down in a Lancaster bomber over Germany, by oh, trev, signed-on at the Jobcentre single-handedly – give this wimp the Victoria Cross for Gallantry. Go and visit a Commonwealth War Graves cemetery and weep for the young men who were robbed of their lives for a bunch of sorry losers.

      Gallipoli

      March 17, 2020 at 7:25 am

    • Hey man, that’s a micro-aggression. You have been reported to the Police. *retreats to ‘safe space’*

      Woke Loser

      March 17, 2020 at 7:35 am

  30. “When will the sun-dried tomato and olive Italian focaccia bread be back in stock?”

    Overheard in Waitrose

    March 17, 2020 at 7:46 am

  31. UK coronavirus crisis ‘to last until spring 2021 and could see 7.9 million hospitalised’.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

    Violet

    March 17, 2020 at 8:34 am

    • South Korea has a population of 52 million living on a landmass of 100,000 sq km. England (not including Scotland, Wales, and Ireland who will develop their own strategies) has a population of 55 million living on a landmass of 130,000 sq km. Its capital city has 9.6 million people, London has 9 million. Both countries are highly industrialised. SK has a border on a large continent, Britain has the advantage of being an island. Both have significant shorelines and trading ports, both enjoy temperate climates (although SK is drier) not dissimilar to each other.

      South Korea opened up drive through CoVid testing centres. 20,000 people a day are tested. You get a text if the test is negative or a call if positive. This is the highest testing rate per capita anywhere in the world. From just under a hundred centres and laboratories, these results come through within 24 hours. The whole network was up and running within 17 days of the first cases being reported. In fact, it was patient 31, who triggered SK’s response.

      The fatality rate for coronavirus in South Korea is 0.7%. Globally the World Health Organization has reported at 3.4%.

      The big difference between the UK’s model of controlling the infection so it can handle the critical cases (mitigation model) and South Korea’s (containment model) is simple. Five times more people will die in the UK per million infected than they will in SK.

      One is an experiment, the other is based on experience, sound scientific expertise and most importantly preparedness.

      Seoul

      March 17, 2020 at 8:39 am

      • What you are forgetting though is that South Korea is an advanced, First World country. The UK on the other hand is a retarded Turd World country. No comparison!

        Soo Ping Loo

        March 17, 2020 at 8:54 am

    • How is that going to work. It has been reported that there is only 58 (Intensive Care Unit) beds up in Scotchland. So maybe around 600 down here in England. If you have ever been in an ICU unit you will have noticed that there is usually about six beds and a couple of ventilators. The NHS is never going to cope. 8 million people on a couple of hundred ventilators!

      Natalie Reid (staff nurse)

      March 17, 2020 at 8:47 am

    • Boris Johnson makes ‘last gasp’ joke about lack of ventilators amid pandemic

      Boris Johnson left manufacturers unimpressed last night after making light of the lack of available ventilator equipment in the UK as the coronavirus spreads.

      Sally

      March 17, 2020 at 10:01 am

    • It turns out that 7.9 million is about 12% of the population. I’m pretty sure the NHS can’t deal with that many cases when it is already stressed to breaking point. So doctors will have to triage the sick and decide who is worth treating and who to let die. Not a very appealing thought.

      Statto

      March 17, 2020 at 10:22 am

    • The whole fucking world is screaming at the UK that we are doing it wrong yet we still have that fuckwit BoJo telling us to keep a stiff upper lip, and now we have that poison dwarf, Turdgeon oop north telling us that there are ‘no coronavirus’ secrets. You can always trust a First Minister of Scotchland, uch aye, Alex how is the court case going 😉 Why aren’t the two biggest transmission vectors fucking schools and the jobcentres closed?

      Batabal

      March 17, 2020 at 11:39 am

      • Salmond is on the stand: “it wisnae me. a didnae dae it”

        Court Reporter

        March 17, 2020 at 11:47 am

  32. Reblogged this on Tory Britain!.

    A6er

    March 17, 2020 at 8:36 am

  33. It’s an absolute scandal that unemployed people have simply been ignored by this Tory government. What measures are the DWP taking to safeguard Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants ?

    Harold Chalmers

    March 17, 2020 at 11:08 am

    • They’re taking no measures whatsoever. Probably do them a big favour if we snuff it.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 12:00 pm

      • Watch coachy when you pick up the contaminated pen. They reel back in their seat as if it is a stick of radioactive plutonium and have that “hope they get it” look of evil on their face. Any measures they take are to protect themselves. They want to take out as many of the unemployed as they can.

        Hazmat Suit

        March 17, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      • I used my own pen to write down my next appointment, but had to use the plastic pen to sign on the electronic pad, though I applied some hand sanitizer just prior to being called to the desk.

        trev

        March 17, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    • They don’t care and its getting worse.Its like their not bothered.

      HS2 contractor branded ‘disgusting’ as video appears to show worker coughing over protester in Aylesbury Vale

      A video, which can be viewed at the top of this article, emerged on social media yesterday appearing to show a HS2 worker deliberately coughing over a protester.

      The MP for Buckingham, Greg Smith, also gave us the following statement: “I am appalled that HS2 Ltd and their contractors continue with enabling works, clearly flouting government advice on social distancing.

      https://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/people/hs2-contractor-branded-disgusting-video-appears-show-worker-coughing-over-protester-aylesbury-vale-2516414

      Perhaps a Universal Credit claim would cure that.

      ken

      March 26, 2020 at 3:20 am

  34. after you sign do a fake hacking cough.

    they dont’t care if jsa claiments get crono or pension credit pensioners.

    all the disabled people can afford to bulk buy as they get so much money weekly.

    big bird

    March 17, 2020 at 11:25 am

  35. I’ve just returned from the jobcentre where it’s business as usual, a totally normal signing interview lasting 10 mins. , only difference is the dole clerks have a bottle of hand sanitizer on their desks, but no one wearing face masks not even the security guards.

    trev

    March 17, 2020 at 11:58 am

    • Glad to hear that you survived your ordeal. Well done. Bravo.

      Mister Joyboy

      March 17, 2020 at 5:01 pm

  36. bet they didn’t let you use their hand sanitizer.

    big bird

    March 17, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    • Luckily I took my own.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 1:33 pm

  37. Even before the cornovirus, some of the job centres I been in (one to see the disability advisor) and one for normal signing when on jsa, were pretty unclean.

    my_final_username

    March 17, 2020 at 2:53 pm

  38. Just think if we got into lockdown and the police have the power to arrest people for not self quarantine themselves if needed, sorry boss I need to sign I have got a jsa

    Just scrap having to sign on at the jsa/uc appointments and any other appointment at the job centre as some job centres could be short of staff and g4s

    my_final_username

    March 17, 2020 at 3:38 pm

  39. Sooner or later, they will have to start closing Jobcentres. Like it or not.

    Tony Barrett

    March 17, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    • Not until they’ve wiped out the remaining JSA claimants / long-term unemployed.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 5:24 pm

      • The unemployed need to start taking a strict line with this. Can’t sign, won’t sign.

        Leo

        March 17, 2020 at 7:18 pm

      • @But Trev, that would be monstrous !

        Miss Marple

        March 17, 2020 at 7:20 pm

  40. trev

    March 17, 2020 at 5:22 pm

  41. There is not a single word about old-style JSA claimants in the DWP Coronavirus advice ! It’s just as if the remaining JSA claimants don’t officially exist.

    Petra

    March 17, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    • Petra, I know! I sought clarification from my MP but he wasn’t interested and fobbed me off.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    • Because the DWP expect them to be all dead soon.

      The Grim Reaper

      March 17, 2020 at 8:44 pm

  42. Breaking…

    Coronavirus: Glasgow Life shuts libraries, gyms and pools

    ALL museums, public libraries, sports centres and community facilities owned by Glasgow Life have closed from today.

    It means Scotland’s top free visitor attraction, Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum, will be shut and gyms and libraries all over the city closed down during the coronavirus outbreak.

    It is expected the closures will last several weeks until the end of next month, covering the school Easter Holidays in just over two weeks.

    Glasgow Life has taken the decision following the Government advice on reducing social contact.

    Corona Virus News Update Service

    March 17, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    • What if you use the library for jobsearch like most jobseekers do? Is this coming to Ipswich libraries?

      Taffy

      March 17, 2020 at 8:24 pm

      • Glasgow Life doesn’t run Ipswich libraries you daft h’apper.

        East Anglia

        March 17, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    • And fucking jobcentres are still fucking open!! Are the DWP fucking NUTS!! Well, are you?””

      DWP is fucking NUTS!!

      March 17, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    • By keeping jobcentres open the DWP is effectively ignoring HM Government’s instruction to limit unnecessary social contact. Signing-on appointments ARE unnecessary social contact. Immediately make payments automatically and scrap job-searching requirements. Using communal computers IS an unnecessary risk. Anyway, we can expect other local authorities to follow Glasgow’s lead soon and close down all their libraries.

      Harlem

      March 17, 2020 at 8:40 pm

      • And if we filmed it we just get our camera/phone smashed and the cops called by the g4s/job centre staff.

        my_final_username

        March 17, 2020 at 9:18 pm

      • Locally all the seats have been removed from the GP surgery,essential appointments only and their canceling by text others.Its probably the same everywhere now.

        Shops are closing too,

        Stores closed at Bicester Village and ‘staff resign’

        New Balance has closed and staff say Lululemon, Ugg and Timberland have as well.

        https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18308236.stores-closed-bicester-village/

        http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/

        Not good for a Universal Credit economy.

        ken

        March 17, 2020 at 9:30 pm

      • Shops in the UK are starting to refuse cash now, Iceland soon to start. Lots of staff wearing gloves and using hand sanitiser after handling cash. If you live on Gibraltar almost no shops are taking cash.

        Gillian

        March 17, 2020 at 9:56 pm

  43. This ‘corona virus’ has always felt like some mind-fuck lab rat social experiment. Someone is sat laughing at us scurrying around filling our brollies.

    Lab Rat

    March 17, 2020 at 10:01 pm

  44. This ‘corona virus’ has always felt like some mind-fuck lab rat social experiment. Someone is sat laughing at us scurrying around filling our trollies.

    Lab Rat

    March 17, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    • Or just Armageddon nearing its conclusion.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    • Uncle George Soros will be making a mint out of the coronacrap. Making money on the way down and money on the way back up. Cui bono, who benefits?. It you want to find out who started it you just have to look for who benefits, eh George 😉

      Cui Bono

      March 17, 2020 at 10:41 pm

  45. Coronavirus: First Bus announce Saturday timetable from next week

    The announcement comes after the government warned against non-essential travel yesterday

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/coronavirus-first-bus-timetable-saturday-3958007

    ken

    March 17, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    • I thought the Saturday bus times were pretty much the same as in the week, but I don’t really know as I very rarely use buses as I can’t afford to.But if they go on to Sunday timetable we know we’re screwed.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 10:30 pm

      • Everyday Is Like Sunday
        from album: Viva Hate (1988)

        Trudging slowly over wet sand
        Back to the bench where your clothes were stolen
        This is the coastal town
        That they forgot to close down
        Armageddon – come Armageddon!
        Come, Armageddon! Come!

        Everyday is like Sunday
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Hide on the promenade
        Etch a postcard:
        “how I dearly wish I was not here”
        In the seaside town
        … That they forgot to bomb
        Come, come, come – nuclear bomb

        Everyday is like Sunday
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Trudging back over pebbles and sand
        And a strange dust lands on your hands
        (and on your face…)
        (on your face…)
        (on your face…)
        (on your face…)

        Everyday is like Sunday
        “win yourself a cheap tray”
        Share some greased tea with me
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Morrissey

        March 17, 2020 at 10:51 pm

  46. Are they gonna tell jas claimants that uk lockdown is a change in circumstance so claim uc.

    Total madness.

    piggy

    March 17, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    • This corona which nobody has even seen yet is being used to usher in a load of totalitarian changes, cashless society, everyone migrated to universal credit? You have to be suspicious.

      Liil

      March 17, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    • @ piggy

      I’ve been wondering if it would trigger a transfer to universal Credit if a JSA claimant phoned in to miss a signing appointment due to illness or self isolation but no information is available, the DWP havent said anything about it and even my MP doesn’t want to know.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 11:00 pm

      • on jsa you can self certificate for the first 7 days that you are sick, you must tell them this asap as after 7 days you will have to attend to sign on ect.

        if you are ill more than 7 days a sick note is required and no benefits will be paid until this has been processed.

        you can only have 1 sickness period per 12 months and a maximum of 3 months on extended sick leave on jsa but you will need a sick note to cover the 3 months or you will have to send in new ones when they run out so must be sent recorded delivery or they go in the bin 😉

        superted

        March 17, 2020 at 11:14 pm

      • @ superted

        So presumably to self-certify 7 days sickness you would have to visit the jobcentre and fill in a form? Why aren’t they telling people this as part of the current situation? There has been no specific information given for JSA claimants.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 8:34 am

      • you dont need to fill in any forms for the first 7 days you just have to tell your work coach after 7 days you will need to hand in a sick note or post one for the time you are sick.

        you will still have to job search but will sign on via the phone every 2 weeks.

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 11:48 am

  47. Effects of Infection
    Like any other viruses, t-Viruses make contact with a cell’s membrane and insert their genetic coding into the cell. The cell absorbs the viral genome into its own, which hijacks the cell’s intended functions, using them to produce virions similar to the original. The new virions are then released from the host cell and infect the neighboring cells, which starts the process all over again.[11]

    Different t-Viruses can react in different ways to humans. Before 1978, the t-Virus simply killed people, but the independent accomplishments of Marcus’ and Spencer’s labs led to zombification as the typical outcome of infection. Higher brain functions among the infected almost cease entirely and zombies can only perform minor tasks such as turning doorknobs. It should be noted that while zombification is known to result in brain damage and necrosis, the hosts are not, in fact, dead, as the t-Virus is incapable of reanimating dead tissue. Even with a shut down of the respiratory and cardiovascular systems, or apparent brain death, infected people do not die. Since some of the traits of zombies are the decomposed skin and the lack of pulse, they are often mistaken for reanimated corpses.

    In viral strains capable of the “V-ACT” process, unconscious zombies are known to mutate in an hour or so. Crimson Heads develop razor-sharp claws, sharp canine teeth and their hearts pump blood rapidly across the body, resulting in their crimson hue. Other strains instead create “Lickers,” which are humans whose skin has entirely rotted away to show the muscles. Their brains are exposed, and they have powerful, long tongues that can be used as whips to attack people. An oddity of V-ACT is a creature known as “Suspended.” Only one specimen of this creature is known to have existed. What it actually was is unknown, though it is possible to have been the result of a zombie ceasing its mutation mid-transformation.

    There are rare cases where a human responds differently to t-Virus infection and transforms into a dominant mutant. These mutations are the result of unique genetic factors that only one in ten million people displays. People with this genetic quality were highly prized by Umbrella, as they could be turned into bio-weapons known as Tyrants.

    i think i got tyrants if i ring 111 will they help or carpet bomb me with nuclear cruse missiles 😉

    superted

    March 17, 2020 at 10:42 pm

  48. This is extra stress on jsa claimants.

    taz

    March 17, 2020 at 10:43 pm

  49. Does anyone know for how long this mad panic-buying is supposed to be going on for? Will it dovetail into our mad Christmas rush? It feels like corona developed in supermarket lab to boost their profits. It sure feels like it? It is costing a fortune. We feel like we will be appearing on a Channel 5 hoarding programme soon. Look they have 1000 loo rolls 🙂

    Sally Shopper

    March 17, 2020 at 11:09 pm

  50. Gatherings of more than 50 people is banned under Health & Safety laws. So that means the House Of Lords needs to shut down, including the Houses Of Parliament. Bars & Pubs are already employing the gathering ban so why not a politician gathering ban or have they all got the virus then !!! That means the politicians all need to self isolate in Parliament. It must be a big worry for the House Lords with old & under lying health conditions. So really why do we always break or own rules !!! Perhaps it is a worry for the Tory MP’s servants or perhaps it is just a worry for the servant !!!!! It seems there are no more servants Tories so start to worry who’s cleaning your bog. Facebook Slander to Fuckbook Social Media’s defeat.

    With all the supermarket fuss they should be putting up Red Cross Tents because of failure.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 18, 2020 at 12:46 am

  51. Has anyone on this site got corona or know anyone with it.

    Government don’t want you going near anyone incase you talk about it, they even want you isolated from each other in your homes, so lock yourself in your room.

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 7:33 am

    • The answer to both questions is no doubt ‘no’. Something stinks alright! Best to ignore the media and politicians and just go by what you can see with your own eyes. Of course if you lock yourself away your perceptions will solely controlled by the media. Always keep an ear to the ground.

      Coronahoax

      March 18, 2020 at 8:02 am

  52. I hope that people with better things to do, e.g., work for a living, are much less paranoid and shit scared than most of the mentalists and loonies commenting on this site. Grow up and get yourselves fucking backbones as soon as possible for fuck’s sake you poor pusillanimous pathetic sods.

    Man from the Street

    March 18, 2020 at 7:33 am

    • You’ve got to make allowances, mate. The people on here have got a lot of time on their hands and nothing better to do than brood about themselves all day. You can’t blame them for being self-centred navel gazers and a bit nutty and holding the rest of the world responsible for their situation after they have shirked the world and responsibility to others themselves. They are after all, when all is said and done, the runts of society.

      Peacock

      March 18, 2020 at 7:46 am

      • @ Peacock

        I may be “a bit nutty” but when the time comes for you to be in need of receiving a food parcel from the foodbank it might be this “runt of society” who helps to facilitate that. Your biased comment and presumptive remarks are both derogatory and discriminatory.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 8:45 am

      • @trev: Good for you mate. At least you are down the foodbank helping people. Not making stupid comments like @peacock.

        Pete

        March 18, 2020 at 11:42 am

    • You shouldn’t be hanging around on the street mate, you might catch your death.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 8:50 am

  53. The All Seeing Eye

    March 18, 2020 at 8:27 am

  54. Your comment is awaiting moderation. What the fuck!

    The All Seeing Eye

    March 18, 2020 at 8:30 am

  55. Coates, if the mainstream media wasn’t giving us the hard sell on this cold virus and bombarding the world with nonsense, no one be be any the wiser and no one would need to be helped but that’s not what the global elite want is it? Is there any mainstream blogger at all out there that will call this out for what it is?

    Danni K

    March 18, 2020 at 11:30 am

  56. No-one has ever asked me ”Dave, do you really want to work ?.”

    Dave Blunt

    March 18, 2020 at 11:36 am

  57. @trev – You’ve picked up a good point there Trev. Why is there all this determined silence about the JSA claimants ? There are still far more claimants on JSA than Universal Credit. So why is the DWP pretending they don’t even exist ?

    Paul G.

    March 18, 2020 at 11:39 am

    • Yeah it’s weird innit? I can only conclude that the Tories are hoping to use this virus situation to either transfer all the survivng JSA claimants and long-term unemployed on to Universal Credit, or to kill us off. The mainstream media seem to be complicit too, not been a word mentioned about coronavirus and Jobcentres, on the BBC or anywhere else.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 12:00 pm

      • People are using this situation in all sorts of ways but this ‘crisis’ has not been engineered specifically to move the remaining JSA claimants onto uc. That is just daft! It may be a consequence of it but nothing more. What you are seeing in action at the moment is the ‘Shock Doctrine’ that Naomi Klein talked about in her book of the same name. It has been deployed in many other regions/countries of the world before but you couldn’t have cared less because ‘it did not effect you’. Many regions/counties have been brought down. Unknown evil entities are attempting to trash the global economy and using ‘coronavirus’ as a cover. There is a war going on at the moment. There will be winners – and there will be losers. When it is all over we will find out who they are.

        Shock Doctrine

        March 18, 2020 at 12:21 pm

      • @ Shock Doctrine

        I’m not saying “this ‘crisis’ has not been engineered specifically to move the remaining JSA claimants onto uc”, just that the Tory government are possibly taking advantage of the situation to do that. I don’t believe that the crisis has been engineered. The virus arose from the atrocious medieval conditions in Chinese food markets as a result of lack of food hygiene standards and animal welfare.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    • Totally agree.

      Andrew Coates

      March 18, 2020 at 12:08 pm

      • You’ll be on UC very soon Coates, oh & thank you very much for taking my comment down.

        Violet

        March 18, 2020 at 12:20 pm

      • Those of us who still have to attend Jobcentres and still have to use libraries for jobsearch, particularly JSA claimants, are being totally ignored by the Government and the media, and in my case by my own MP.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 12:22 pm

  58. HOT OFF THE PRESS!

    My Jobcentre just phoned to say tomorrow’s signing has been cancelled. As to when I will be going in again is under review. Payments will go through as normal.

    jj joop

    March 18, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    • @jj joop. Yeah but what about your jobsearch JJ ? Do you still have do this ? I can see a problem here, if people just turn up in a couple of month’s time with no jobsearch done.

      Andy

      March 18, 2020 at 12:23 pm

      • If I were you I would carry on doing job search as usual, don’t give the jc a chance to sanction you.

        Violet

        March 18, 2020 at 12:34 pm

      • No mention of my job search. But I still intend to do my job search and keep my paper journal up to date. It only takes up about an hour and a half of my time every day, anyway. And at the end of the day, I will be keeping to the terms and conditions of my CC. In fact, I would recommend everyone do just that.

        jj joop

        March 18, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    • Every one is being told not to attend joke centre as we are now on corona lockdown.

      Violet

      March 18, 2020 at 12:23 pm

      • jj i would not trust anything a work coach says over the phone and would want it in writing first.

        if the jcp is open where you are i would still turn up to sign on.

        you must still job search it is the only part of the cc they can sanction you for buy law.

        unless it is posted on the news or a letter comes thru the door i will be attending.

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 2:05 pm

      • @superted, But what if they phone you up and tell you not to come in ? It might be someone impersonating your Work Coach, but is that likely ? Why put yourself at risk by going in when you don’t have to.

        John

        March 18, 2020 at 2:41 pm

      • they dont have my phone number and i am not at risk if i catch the flu i am not going to die.

        1400 ppl die per day in the uk anyway its not like the bubonic plague.

        if i do die someone will have to put my body in the green wheelie bin on Monday night ready for the incinerator next day 😉

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 2:48 pm

      • Back in the real world it just appears that it is the usual winter bugs doing the rounds. Is there any evidence at all of the ‘coronavirus’ in the real world? Are we being played for fools? Is this scam? A financial scam?

        J-Jam

        March 18, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    • Finally!

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 12:24 pm

      • @trev – Trev you’ve done it ! The Jobcentres have closed down. Just had my own Work Coach on the phone telling me not to come in. Still the question about jobsearch though, as @andy has mentioned above. Probably best to keep a few applications going to cover yourself.

        Garry

        March 18, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      • @ Garry

        Well I don’t think “I’ve” done it, but I have kept mentioning this on blogs, and contacted my MP, and have contacted the BBC a couple of times about it, and a local newspaper reporter, and the CAB….

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 12:42 pm

      • It’s trev wot done it!

        The Scum

        March 18, 2020 at 12:47 pm

      • Still no mention of Jobcentre closures on BBC News, and nothing specific about JSA or Jobcentres from the DWP.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      • Give the man a medal.

        Field Marshal Bumfree-Jones

        March 18, 2020 at 12:49 pm

      • It is such a shame that the Work coaches still have to work even thou there is no people to oppress. The Work coaches are now getting it hard so they think.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        March 18, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    • Corona lockdown now there will be millions losing their jobs & will have to claim universal credit just what the tories want everyone relying on the state.

      Violet

      March 18, 2020 at 12:30 pm

  59. There is no coronavirus “pandemic”. What is really happening is the global economy is being shut down so the new world order can be ushered in, the world governments & the main stream media are behind it all doing the dirty work for the global elite. What you are witnessing is just the beginning it will get a lot worse in the coming weeks.

    Sakaw

    March 18, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    • Sakaw, have you been listening to David Wilcock and Alex Jones?

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 12:45 pm

  60. There is no coronavi******rus “pand****************emic”. What is really happening is the global economy is being shut down so the n****ew w*****orld o***********rder can be ushered in, the world governments & the main stream media are behind it all doing the dirty work for the global el***********ite. What you are witnessing is just the beginning it will get a lot worse in the coming weeks.

    Sakaw

    March 18, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    • Absolutely, mandatory vaccines will be coming, more Internet censorship(to silence anyone talking about what’s really going on), notice how all the protests around the world have suddenly ended, yellow vests, Hong Kong etc, the phoney crow virus is the reason, also the globo’s want to disarm the Americans, what better way than a pandemic hoax to enforce draconian measures to confiscate firearms, their ultimate aim is to abolish the Constitution especially the second amendment… the right to bear arms!

      Tigerlily

      March 18, 2020 at 1:03 pm

      • If you care to just watch a gentle Ted Talk video with Bill Gates from 2015 talking about the imminent threat not of being blasted by nuclear bombs but by releasing pathogens to kill off the ‘useless eaters’ (old unproductive folk), you will hopefully understand that he, as a member of George Soros’s One Foundation, totally transfixed on vaccinating the entire planet’s population, was actually spilling the beans on what was being planned. These vaccinations will have something or other in them that will almost certainly be detrimental to human health (at some point in life.)
        We’re almost at 8 billion people you see Doug and the Zionist multi billionaires like Sheldon Aldelson, Richard Pearle and the awfully nice chap (forgot the name) looking after the space programme to eventually get the human brain connected with Artificial Intelligence, know full well that their wealth cannot be sustained anymore and the population culled by bombing countries into oblivion. The same model which worked well in the 60’s is now considered old fashioned.
        On the ground everything is being controlled by Israeli cyber security companies and everything you say or do will be closely monitored. Now I’m pretty sure you know who has the power to bombard all mainstream TV, radio and newspaper outlets with the same rhetoric for weeks.

        Anjam

        March 18, 2020 at 1:11 pm

      • @ Anjam

        “I’m pretty sure you know who has the power to bombard all mainstream TV, radio and newspaper outlets with the same rhetoric for weeks.”

        No, who?

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:33 pm

      • Multiculturalism and especially importing an alien culture of people for votes while housing, feeding and caring for them was done to destabilise the nation as was offering them the nation’s poorest children to be passed around as sex slaves for 30 years. The entire political and judiciary systems of the UK were compliant in this unprecedented act of war in modern times. The Brexit referendum and vote was fuelled entirely by mass uncontrolled immigration. (Loathing of the EU was secondary.)

        Aiij

        March 18, 2020 at 1:12 pm

      • Yeah, need a ‘vaccination certificate’ to claim benefits, get/keep a job…

        Al

        March 18, 2020 at 1:16 pm

      • David Icke is urging us not to take the planned coming mandatory vaccines. He says that there will be something in it that shortens out lifespans.

        Travis Bickle (conspiracy theorist)

        March 18, 2020 at 1:20 pm

      • But David Icke says that death is nothing to be afraid of so why is he worried about shortening life spans?

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:27 pm

      • @ Tigerlily

        But people in LA are queuing up to buy more guns, it showed it on the news the other day. What America really needs is the Right to Arm Bears, give all those hunters a taste of their own medicine.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      • How is it any different from preachers, trev? We tell you how great it is up there but cling like grim death to life down here?

        Pope Benedict III

        March 18, 2020 at 1:32 pm

      • @ Pope Benedict

        That’s very true your Eminence. Why fear death if it’s God’s will? I guess there’s a point where Faith meets Apathy, or something to do with the relationship between Destiny and Free Will. An Age-old Religious/Philosophical debate.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:42 pm

      • You will take my guns from my cold dead hands.

        Charlton Heston

        March 18, 2020 at 1:45 pm

  61. Is the coronavirus caused by 5G?

    Violet

    March 18, 2020 at 1:24 pm

  62. My jobcentre is still opened, Im in london and sign on next week

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    • They can’t shut mosques that would be like kicking sand in Allah’s face (Peace be upon his name). Besides we have Ramadan coming up, the most important festival in the Is,,,,,,,,,,,,,la….mic calendar (Apr 24 – May 24)

      Peace

      Ali

      March 18, 2020 at 1:38 pm

  63. They want to shut churches now during easter.

    Why don’t they shut mosques aswell

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    • @ big bird

      The local Buddhist centre near me has just announced temporary closure too.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 1:36 pm

  64. Breaking…………..

    Schools in Scotchland are closing from Friday until further notice.

    Corona News Update Subscription Service

    March 18, 2020 at 1:40 pm

  65. @trev- I think everyone on this blog owes Trev a vote of thanks for bringing up the whole issue of Jobcentre closures . Sometimes a single man can stand up to the power of the mass media, unafraid and ready to speak out. Trev, we owe you one.

    Nathan

    March 18, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    • @nathan, Cometh the hour, Cometh the man.

      Andrew

      March 18, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    • I don’t think this issue is over with yet, I suspect they are addressing it regionally probably depending on the local infection rate, rather than at a National level which would be too much to expect of an incompetent like Boris.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 4:21 pm

    • Who’s Trev?

      Freeman Dyson

      March 18, 2020 at 5:47 pm

      • What man knoweth Kadath?

        Lovecraft

        March 18, 2020 at 5:55 pm

  66. Breaking news….

    Boris Johnson is “considering” introducing an emergency Universal Basic Income after the SNP called for one, insisting it would help ordinary people survive the coronavirus crisis.

    Corona Virus News Update Subscription Service

    March 18, 2020 at 2:34 pm

  67. But will it be a cashless UBI I wonder?

    Violet

    March 18, 2020 at 2:51 pm

  68. Coronavirus, My hairy Arse!

    Jim Royle

    March 18, 2020 at 3:16 pm

  69. Stock markets continue to be routed. Dow Jones now below 20,000.

    George Soros Investments

    March 18, 2020 at 3:21 pm

  70. Coronavirus IS a bioweapon created in a lab say scientists.

    David Wilcock

    March 18, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    • Which Scientists? Which lab?

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 3:38 pm

  71. trev

    March 18, 2020 at 3:34 pm

  72. Even now, there are some people who see this all as a money-making opportunity.

    ‘Two top Tory donors made millions “shorting” the stock market during last week’s coronavirus collapse – so will they be putting their hands in their pockets to help those in need?’ – Private Eye

    For those unfamiliar with the stock market, short-selling works as follows:

    ‘It involves the sale of stock that the seller does not own, or shares that the seller has taken on loan from a broker. Short sellers take on these transactions because they believe a stock’s price is headed downward, and that if they sell the stock today, they’ll be able to buy it back at a lower price at some point in the future. If they accomplish this, they’ll make a profit consisting of the difference between their sell and buy prices’.

    Citizen Kane

    March 18, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    • Hardly surprising. Whether it’s a war or a natural disaster, a financial crisis or a health crisis, there’s always someone somewhere making money from it, that’s the way Capitalism works. People even make money telling their stories about serial killers. Or in some cases convicted criminals make money from selling their book. The whole world is corrupt.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    • There was a bloody interesting film called “The Great Short” with Christian Bale all about this fiddle that caused the stock market to crash. It was shown on the BBC I think. Keep a look out for repeats.

      A Man Called Sue

      March 18, 2020 at 5:46 pm

      • Movie Buff

        March 19, 2020 at 3:43 pm

      • Good film although a bit technical… the only thing I remember vividly about it was the scene where Margot Robbie, naked in a bubble bath, explained something about economics and banking and told the audience to fuck off. Blimey. A sight that could make a blood run hot in a corpse and a dead man stand to attention.

        Randolph Mann

        March 19, 2020 at 5:13 pm

  73. Coronavirus: Schools to close until further notice from Friday

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51952314

    cant really keep the jcp open now can they lol every one has lost the plot

    superted

    March 18, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    • Many people will have to stay at home now to look after their kids. Those who are unemployed and have kids will have to take them with them to the Jobcentres and the libraries when signing on and doing jobsearch.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    • Not in England yet though.

      Clockwatcher

      March 18, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    • Yes I work in a school. No one knows yet what arrangements re pay ect are. US cleaners will be in to start with doing a deep clean, providing no confirmed cases in skl. If confirmed case then specialist cleaners will b called in then we’ll have to do it all again. It’s been mad with teachers dropping like flies. If a kid as much as coughs it’s straight to the medical room. If they’re sent home any siblings will go too. Schools will stay open for kids of keyword erstwhile also vulnerable kids with SEN or social workers. Don’t know yet what arrangements for Free school meals are yet. Will keep updated

      katrehman

      March 18, 2020 at 9:07 pm

  74. It will be interesting how people forced to isolate themselves who have to apply for Universal Credit, will react to the new benefit system and whether loads of negative experiences happening all at the same time will put pressure on the government to review and change UC.

    Wickham's Fancy

    March 18, 2020 at 5:41 pm

  75. funny all the terrorist and perverts have disappeared.

    it’s no stop fear mongering.

    the invisible ‘enemy’

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    • God, a terrorist attack happening right now doesn’t bear thinking about! If it did it would probably bring troops on the streets.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 5:51 pm

  76. I’ve got a Jobcentre appointment next Monday. No cancellation here as far as I know, yet. To be honest I couldn’t care less. My statistical chances of dying are so insignificant I have no fear being youngish and in good health. Bring it on!

    Raine

    March 18, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    • I have no fear either, I just hate going to the jobcentre, and I’m 60 and a heavy smoker prone to bronchitis, type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    • Truth be known, I am a bit worried tbh Raine, it would be a shame to snuff it now as I’d like to live long enough to get my Pension, and I don’t fancy dying gasping for breath whilst drowning in my own lungs.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 6:55 pm

  77. I can’t bear to listen to Boris stammering and waffling…still..erm..still…no..no..no…erm..official statement on on on thee erm…the closure of of Jobcentres.

    trev

    March 18, 2020 at 6:02 pm

  78. What’s all the racist shite about Muslims and all doing on a thread about coronavirus? And the dumb fuck conspiracy bollocks about 5G and bio-weapons and whatnot? As soon as there’s a national emergency all the fucking mutants come out from under the sink in the outhouse. Bloody hell. Have a word with yourselves for fuck’s sake you mongs.

    Mother Therese

    March 18, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    • Baloney! Utter baloney! “As detailed by James Lyons-Weiler, PhD, founder of the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge and author of 57 peer-reviewed publications, an analysis of the gene sequence for the coronavirus finds a peculiar sequence called “pShuttle-SN.” This sequence is is the remnant of a genetic engineering sequence that’s used to insert genes into viruses and bacteria. It provides irrefutable “open source” proof that the coronavirus now circulating in the wild was engineered in a laboratory. Every lab that has the gene sequence can see this for themselves.”

      A Solorzano PhD (virologist)

      March 18, 2020 at 6:34 pm

      • With an average survival rate of 98% if coronavirus is a bio-weapon it’s a piss poor one. James Lyons-Weiler sounds like a callous-handed wanker of the first order to me. (What’s his PhD in? Playing with himself?) Nobody respectable or eminent is talking grassy knoll shite like that. No one. Holy shit. The paranoid and credulous knuckle-dragging contingent are out in force tonight. Poor simple sods. Not a full Moon until the 8th of next month and they’re already baying at the sky. Whatever have things come to? I blame social media for the low standard of British nutters in the modern world.

        Mother Superior

        March 18, 2020 at 8:14 pm

      • The X-Files are on the Paramount Channel tonight.

        Spooky Mulder

        March 18, 2020 at 8:17 pm

      • Tonight? I just checked, it’s not on til half three in the bloody morning!

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 8:24 pm

      • https://streamdreams.org/movies/

        just use a add blocker b4 you click 😉

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 8:43 pm

  79. Full list of all county council-owned libraries set to close due to coronavirus
    https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/full-list-county-council-owned-3962694

    well there goes your job search and online journal if you rely on this service to get online.

    superted

    March 18, 2020 at 6:16 pm

  80. Full list of all county council-owned libraries set to close due to coronavirus
    https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/full-list-county-council-owned-3962694

    well there goes your job search and online journal if you rely on this service to get online. i bet the public transport will be next.

    superted

    March 18, 2020 at 6:17 pm

  81. We know bird flu was created in the University of Wisconsin lab by Yoshihiro Kawaoka – he was also working with Ebola in an unsecured lab reported in July 2014 in the Independent newspaper

    “Exclusive: Controversial US scientist creates deadly new flu strain for pandemic research”

    “Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison has genetically manipulated the 2009 strain of pandemic flu in order for it to “escape” the control of the immune system’s neutralising antibodies, effectively making the human population defenceless against its reemergence.”

    “The study is not published, however some scientists who are aware of it are horrified that Dr Kawaoka was allowed to deliberately remove the only defence against a strain of flu virus that has already demonstrated its ability to create a deadly pandemic that killed as many as 500,000 people in the first year of its emergence.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/exclusive-controversial-us-scientist-creates-deadly-new-flu-strain-for-pandemic-research-9577088.html

    Jeff

    March 18, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    • Bird flu was created in birds… the clue is in its name.

      Liam B.

      March 18, 2020 at 8:20 pm

  82. The UK is now the only country in Europe that hasn’t closed its Jobcentres down. We are going to have to close them soon enough. Do it now and save lives.

    Ann

    March 18, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    • I’m in Alberta, Canada and I can’t believe that the schools in England are still open. We closed all schools (including universities and colleges ) last week. The best way to stop this virus is to keep human contact to a minimum.

      Couperwhite

      March 18, 2020 at 6:54 pm

      • How are Harry and Meghan doing?

        Elizabeth R.

        March 19, 2020 at 3:50 pm

  83. My new work coach is not due to phone me up now to 12 May (as my old work coach moving onto another department) I can’t see this happening as there could be a lot of people having to go on univeral credit.

    I am doing some voluntary work still and we are playing it now week to week depending on what the government does, I did find the volutary work myself and since it is only a small team if a few are off sick or have to go into self quarantine, I won’t be doing my voluntary there. even if I got paid (I will get help from them to help me fill out my changes with them on the univeral credit page, the company has dealt with some people claims, and know how shocking the universal credit system is) as one person who can deal with this started help start my uc50 appeal with my Dad

    my_final_username

    March 18, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    • why do they even ring you up for? what is the point? when i was on phone interviews all they asked was i looking for work and any change in circumstances, ur nope, end of call.

      jcp staff do get moved about alot even doing shifts in other jcp offices in the local area.

      i have lost count of how many so called work coaches i have had over the years seems after 6-8 months if they dont get anywhere i was just sent to another one to have a go going round the office like a pin ball in a machine.

      superted

      March 18, 2020 at 9:47 pm

      • I still have a fit note up to june, because of my anxiety, but since i still get uc I still got to some job search. It saves me having to go into the job centre (the aka the arena)

        my_final_username

        March 19, 2020 at 8:40 am

  84. superted

    March 18, 2020 at 10:02 pm

  85. Government agrees measures with energy industry to support vulnerable people through COVID-19

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-agrees-measures-with-energy-industry-to-support-vulnerable-people-through-covid-19

    This is an issue that was raised by campaigner and activist Charlotte Hughes who runs the Poor Side of Life blog and protests outside Ashton jobcentre every week.

    https://thepoorsideof.life/2020/03/19/emergency-measures-for-prepaid-energy-meters-now-released/

    trev

    March 19, 2020 at 7:55 am

  86. London is going in lockdown, my jc is still opened, I’m trying not to worry and will phone the jc on the day of my appointment.

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    • Looks like Boris might be about to declare Martial Law:

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-coronavirus-army-puts-20000-21717121

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    • London latest….Libraries all closed…Supermarket shelves being stripped bare…London in lock down….Johnson to draft in 250,000 troops to make sure that Jobcentres stay open…

      London Latest

      March 19, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    • London latest…. 40 tube stations closed….Latest health advice is to avoid public transport…Jobcentres still open, business as usual….

      London Latest

      March 19, 2020 at 3:28 pm

  87. superted

    March 19, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    • Only having one ball probably pissed him of as well.

      Colonel Bogey

      March 19, 2020 at 6:42 pm

  88. You can rely on the great wurlitzer to keep fanning the flames of hysteria, the shitstream media and this shit government are proven liars so why does Joe public still believe their f#cking bullshit, nobody questions anything or even suspects anything, talk about dumbed down, not to worry… the clown in no.10 will save everyone from convenient 19!

    Tigerlily

    March 19, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    • They should call it CONTROLLERvirus – 19 much more appropriate!

      Violet

      March 19, 2020 at 3:27 pm

  89. Just seen Ian Drunken Shite has come out against bringing in a Universal basic income while coronavirus rages as it will be a huge disinclination to work. What f…… work with pubs ect and even schools closed?? His solutions of course is his amazing UC….

    katrehman

    March 19, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    • The man’s a maniac, he’s bleedin obsessed.

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 3:11 pm

    • Ian Drunken Shite a very good name for the bald twat, and he would be in favour of universal crap instead of a UBI that would probably alleviate some of the stress we are going through.

      Violet

      March 19, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    • Universal Credit is Iain Duncan Smith’s legacy project, the thing he wanted to be remembered for. Which I actually agree with. He SHOULD be remembered for Universal Credit and held accountable for the misery, pain and death that it has caused. Universal Credit has proven to be far more harmful and deadly than Corvid-19 was, is or ever will be. The evil old bastard ought to be remembered forever for the catastrophic damage he did during his disastrous, dishonest and failed career as a politician.

      T'Pau

      March 19, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    • @katrehman – Now we see the full reality of Universal Credit, and the true motives behind it. With his usual blend of neo-liberalism and religious ideology, Duncan Smith wanted to make people work. People , in particular the unskilled working-class, who he thought were basically idle, and wouldn’t bother to work unless they were forced to do so. Universal Credit was never about saving money, there are no savings as has been pointed out. The cost has been horrendous. The true reason for Universal Credit has been one man’s idea, to prevent the working-class falling into the sin of sloth and idleness.

      Proverbs 26:14 ‘As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.’

      Jeff Smith

      March 19, 2020 at 6:49 pm

  90. I got an email reply to some job I’d applied for saying that the employer has suspended their recruitment process due to the current health emergency. How the chuff are we expected to continue doing jobsearch under the circumstances? It’s bloody ridiculous. If anyone from the Government or DWP is reading this FFS SHUTDOWN THE JOBCENTRES. SUSPEND BENEFITS CONDITIONALITY AND JOBSEARCH REQUIREMENTS ASAP. SUSPEND SANCTIONS FORTHWITH. SUSPEND JSA SIGNING APPOINTMENTS. COMMENCE AUTOMATIC PAYMENTS NOW!

    trev

    March 19, 2020 at 3:00 pm

  91. The plot thickens. My phone just beeped and the SMS message told me to log in to my UC account and read a message. Logged on and, lo and behold, my appointment with my Work Coach next week has been cancelled and my “To-do” list in my UC account is blank. No mention of an appointment with another Work Coach, nor information as per up and coming UC payments, nor anything relating to a future appointment being rebooked. How very queer. I’m due a UC payment next Wednesday and assume that this will go through automatically until I am summoned to the Jobcentre at some point in the future. Weird. I wonder if this means that all Jobcentres are going to close temporarily or if someone in my local Jobcentre has gone down with Corvid-19 and the whole staff having to self-isolate. Who knows? We are living in strange days indeed.

    Who would have thunk it?

    Ro

    March 19, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    • Just got another message:

      “Until further notice there will be no work search appointments. Your Universal Credit will not be affected and you will receive this as normal. You just need to record anything you do to look for work.

      I have no time limit as to when your next appointment will be (possibly at least a couple of months), but once we book an appointment for you it will pop up in your journal.”

      So there you go.

      Ro

      March 19, 2020 at 4:03 pm

      • You never know, this virus crisis might be the undoing of Universal Credit, and it could be replaced with Universal Basic Income, unless it’s just a temporary glich under the circumstances. In the meantime don’t forget to sign the petition:

        https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/coronavirus-a-temporary-universal-basic-income-for-everyone?bucket=email-blast-19_3_2020_ubi_kick&share=473c7539-685f-41d4-b925-94617e663164&utm_campaign=19_3_2020_ubi_kick

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 4:08 pm

      • Petition signed although the Tories are the last people in the world I would have thought to implement a universal basic income, or even conditional basic income*, because they believe to their core and kernel of their being that working people have to be brow-beaten, goaded and compelled to work for a living whereas the rich need to be incentivised, rewarded and encouraged to do their bit for the common good.

        * Check out a “A World Without Work” by Daniel Susskind. Some very interesting ideas here about automation, education, universal basic income, conditional basic income and the future. You can request it from your local library, if you still have one, or download a freebie hooky copy it as an epub, if you’ve got a device (Kindle) or app to read it, from:

        https://ebookhunter.ch/

        Ro

        March 19, 2020 at 4:27 pm

  92. London supermarkets are not being stripped bare. There’s no stock on the shelves to strip.

    I went in Morrison s as soon as it opened, shelves were already empty

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  93. Controllervirus emergency laws in full, shutdowns and £1,000 fines for refusing to be tested.

    What next mandatory vaccinations?

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-emergency-laws-full-shutdowns-21720768

    Violet

    March 19, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    • No vaccine, compulsory or not, for at least twelve to eighteen months the experts say.

      Cracked Actor

      March 19, 2020 at 4:34 pm

      • I suspect this has been planned for years and they probably already have one, will most certainly contain an RFID chip, nano particulates & some nasty diseases.

        Cloverleaf

        March 19, 2020 at 5:35 pm

      • That sounds like an X-Files plot, lol, have you been listening to Coast to Coast AM or Alex Jones?

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    • I will take the test if I have to

      my_final_username

      March 19, 2020 at 4:54 pm

      • Trev no way I can’t stand Alex Jones he’s a berk.

        Cloverleaf

        March 19, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      • I can’t stand him either. What about George Noory? Those Coast to Coast shows can be entertaining to listen to but I don’t think you should take them too seriously.

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 6:53 pm

  94. jj joop

    March 19, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    • Every cloud has a silver lining…

      Bawlbag

      March 19, 2020 at 4:46 pm

      • Never heard of George Noory trev I’ll have to check him out… He’s probably another berk.

        Cloverleaf

        March 19, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    • And my phone call from the job centre is still there in May., I think this will change,

      I supposed you just to how to keep trying you best and do what you can with job searching,

      my_final_username

      March 19, 2020 at 5:02 pm

    • @ jj joop

      “People receiving benefits do not have to attend jobcentre appointments for three months, starting from Thu 19 Mar 2020”

      “People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended”

      It doesn’t say which Benefits, are we to assume it also applies to JSA or is it just Universal Credit? Surely they need to inform every claimant individually in writing.

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 5:12 pm

  95. Freed form the jobcentre, but under house arrest.

    Now work coach has got three months to think of something horrid for us jobseekers for when we come back.

    Keep applying for jobs

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 5:03 pm

  96. Due to restrictions in place as a result of CoVid-19, we are currently unable to accept orders. For any enquiries please email us on sales@atsbullion.com

    https://www.atsbullion.com/live-charts/

    never seen that b4 you cant buy gold!

    superted

    March 19, 2020 at 5:06 pm

  97. Imagine going back to jobcentre with no job search.

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    • “Where’s your jobsearch evidence Mr. Bird?”

      “My dog ate it”

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 5:17 pm

      • Strange that the DWP have not put some of warning in about people having to keep up their jobsearch requirements ? For three months ? This is the same DWP who not so long ago, were saying that if people didn’t keep jobsearching over Christmas, they would be sanctioned.

        Jeff Smith

        March 19, 2020 at 6:37 pm

      • I was just thinking the exact same thing Jeff. I suppose it might be advisable to keep doing a bit of jobsearch and save the email replies just in case someone asks to see your jobsearch evidence at some point in the future, which is possible but probably unlikely. I’ll just continue to click-apply on the odd job as I do now, it’s a pointless charade anyway, I only do it because I have to in order to get my JSA and avoid sanctions, but I’m never likely to even get an interview for any of the jobs I apply for, must have applied for thousands of them over the years. I hope this virus crisis results in the eventual introduction of a Unconditional Basic Income.

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 6:46 pm

      • Obviously you will end up in if you fail to stick to what you have previously agreed in your claimant commitment. As everybody is supposed to keep up a vigorous jobsearch on a weekly basis everybody would be well advised to keep a record of this activity, in your usual manner, to submit if/when asked at some point in the future. If you’re not logging and diarising this in your Journal don’t start doing it now but continue to write it down, or whatever, and retain it for future reference. A lot of people won’t do this and will end up in deep shit in twelve or more weeks once the Jobcentres open again by slacking on their CC requirements during the coronavirus epidemic sweeping the country. Watch yourselves!

        Elric of Melnibone

        March 19, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      • they have waited 3 months or more to drop sanction doubts on me in the past why i keep everything.

        i would try to apply for 3 jobs per week just to cover ur ass.

        superted

        March 19, 2020 at 6:53 pm

      • A universal basic income was implausible and unlikely before coronavirus looks set to cause a crash worse than the banking disaster in 2008. A UK in the process of leaving the EU, still recovering ten years on from the worst economic shock in a century, and with borrowing about to become positively stratospheric thanks to the Covid-19 epidemic sweeping the nation will not be anywhere near prosperous enough to implement even a modest universal basic income for decades if ever. The money to do it simply won’t be there, in fact the opposite will more likely be forced upon us, i.e., cuts in social security in a desperate attempt to make savings to keep a country in decline going a little bit longer before sinking beneath the waves rather than ruling them as it once did.

        Jeremiah

        March 19, 2020 at 7:53 pm

      • @ Jeremiah

        You may well be right about spending cuts and more austerity to come, but making people poorer doesn’t aid economic recovery. My hope is that if anything positive is to come out of this calamity it will be a widespread and long overdue redistribution of wealth. No more Billionaires hoarding all the wealth for themselves, equal prosperity for all under a Leftwing Socialist government with Nationalized essential services and major industries.

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 8:26 pm

      • The things you say are never going to happen, trev, principally because a majority of the electorate, about two-thirds of whom own or are mortgaging their own homes, don’t want them to. Jerusalem will never be built in England’s grey and unpleasant land. No harm in dreaming though. I often fantasise about having Gal Gadot as a girlfriend, which although unlikely to the point of impossibility, is still more likely to happen than a British government introducing a universal basic income sufficient to guarantee an income large enough for all citizens in the UK to live decently. As far as I know no country on earth has done this successfully yet least of all any of the former communist states or any with left-wing regimes like Cuba or Venezuela for example.

        Seventh Son

        March 20, 2020 at 6:50 am

  98. I’m not sure here but where are the jobs you need to apply for? What employer is going to advertise in the middle of a pandemic? It’s like I said over Ian Duncan Spite saying universal basic income will disincentives work…WHAT work?? In my shared house one guy is a fast food worker he’s already been put off. However looks like as a school we are key workers ourselves as the other key workers need to send their kids to skl so they can work. Plus kids in care still have places as do kids with social workers and safeguarding issues plus SEN kids. Quite honestly that’s most of our school. I use to do a lunch contract too at the school I gave up 3 years ago. I was basically shafted plus I had dangerously high BP which I got back to normal with no drugs. I’m now BACKAT lunchtime as there’s so few lunch staff. I told them I won’t work in the dining hall or stack tables and benches because of my disc problem. Oh fine Kat no worries thank you for coming back…
    Just wondering what will happen next!

    katrehman

    March 19, 2020 at 7:15 pm

  99. It’s amazing the libraries are still open. Staff at my local library have put up a barrier around the enquiry desk. Which keeps people back about two feet. Otherwise it seems to be business as usual.

    Helen

    March 19, 2020 at 8:04 pm

  100. The supermarket situation is in crisis,all tin foods are stripped from shelves much of this comes from the EU as well as the toilet roll theres no kitchen rolls or any hygene items such as soap.Something needs to be done make sure food is getting through.Any number of problems are on the horizon from malnutrition to outbreaks of other health problems’ in the home on top of this illness,leading to more burden.

    Food supplies need to be getting through to those on benefits and pensions.This a terrible situation made worse by talk of lockdowns and possible curfews.

    Help Us Find Food

    March 19, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    • I was at the foodbank today, donations are still coming in but demand is high and we’re 30% down on volunteers as those aged 70 and over and those with certain ongoing health conditions have been told not to come in. I get my JSA tomorrow so hoping to do some shopping very early in the morning before going to work at the foodbank again.

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 9:04 pm

  101. Rumour has it that the UK is to go into lockdown at 5pm tomorrow.

    Containment

    March 19, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    • The jokecentres have just been closed down for 3 months. 2+2 = lockdown for up to 3 months. If wind of a lockdown gets out the supermarkets are going to be even more mental than they are now if that is even possible. We won’t be able to wipe our arses for up to 3 months.

      Contagion

      March 19, 2020 at 9:26 pm

      • “We won’t be able to wipe our arses for up to 3 months.”

        Just like in the 60s when I was a kid, a choice between Izal or newspaper! And the bog was outside in the yard lit by a paraffin lamp. But we were happy 😊

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 9:41 pm

  102. The internet has all but crashed,we’re supposed to be looking for work as a job on JSA/UC but site loading is near impossible.

    The American’s were quick to pick this up.

    So We’re Working From Home. Can the Internet Handle It?

    With millions of people working and learning from home during the pandemic, internet networks are set to be strained to the hilt.

    ken's had enough!

    March 19, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    • Streaming companies like Netflix and Amazon et al that utilise massive amounts of bandwidth have a lot to answer for.

      William Gates

      March 20, 2020 at 6:52 am


  103. Fake News: An image showing military vehicles parked on a motorway at an unknown location has been posted today. Some people have claimed this is on motorways near London or Glasgow, but the vehicles are parked on the wrong side of the road indicating this is not from the UK

    Fake News

    March 19, 2020 at 9:40 pm

  104. superted

    March 19, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    • Scuffles break out outside London supermarket amid coronavirus panic buying

      Food retailers have warned the Government that riots and civil disobedience could break out

      How are we supposed to cope with that?

      ken

      March 20, 2020 at 1:27 am

  105. I really don’t believe that the DWP and/or Jobcentres are just going to leave people alone for months at a time. Appointments in person might be off the menu temporarily but I bet that the powers that be will be checking up on us and keeping contact with us regularly in other ways, e.g., phone calls, emails and messages posted in the UC Journal for those already on Universal Credit. Big Brother isn’t going to go away nor DWP staff going to be laid off for the duration or sit passively in their offices until the all clear. My bet is that these people will still be surveiling us remotely and waiting to pounce on those who fall down on their jobseeking activities like a cat stalking unsuspecting mice. I would urge everybody to prepare for this kind of scrutiny and be careful how they go.

    Ro

    March 20, 2020 at 7:00 am

  106. Jobcentre closure to be extended to the end of July, then for two years, then closed INDEFINITELY. Nobody will sign-on again EVER!!

    Rumour Mill

    March 20, 2020 at 7:04 am

  107. first they said we’re all gonna die, then they said 250 thousand will die now their saying maybe 20 thousand will die.

    they are saying keep.away form everyone, even people in your household.
    but you look in the paper and see groups of army and police together so are they immune?

    they said on Tuesday this will last for 18months, now they are saying it will last 12 weeks. I’m guessing this will last until every small business and minimum wage worker has lost there job, and their o ly option is to go on universal credit. the government are only intrested in helping rich people s companies.
    they want to control us, we as jobseekers already have experience with this, now they want to control more people on mass scale which will be a massive shock to their system.

    we can’t even go out and do anything anymore.

    the virus is the government.

    bid bird

    March 20, 2020 at 8:16 am

    • I don’t think the government means that coronavirus will be gone in twelve weeks, only that the number of people infected with it will be going down instead of going up all the time. Mathematicians have calculated that if people don’t isolate themselves as advised but keep mixing with each other and passing the virus to two or more people while they are still infectious as many as 250,000 could die, whereas if people are wise enough to remain separate enough, for long enough, with each person infecting less than one other person on average the spread of the virus will fall enough for the epidemic to begin to shrink over time. Corvid-19 is probably going to be with us forever and it will evolve and alter over time to become new strains of the virus which affect people differently and in new ways: these new strains could be more harmless or more deadly, nobody actually knows.

      Even if everybody is sensible enough to keep themselves isolated for long enough, as advised, computer models predict that at least 20,000 citizens will die because of the virus. This is about two and a half times the death rate from the “normal” influenza that crops up usually in winter. That’s a lot of people. Best to take the advice of the experts to heart so that you don’t end up one of them.

      Vladimir

      March 20, 2020 at 9:29 am

  108. jobcentres are still opened, nobody from my jobcentre has told me to not attend I have received no letter and I’m not gonna go by what some mysterious person is saying on twitter.
    ‘twitter told me not to go’
    I’m going jobcentre next week as normal,

    big bird

    March 20, 2020 at 8:22 am

    • I was informed via voicemail (odd cos my phone was on me the whole time and didn’t hear it ring) that my appointment was cancelled and my payment would be as normal. This information was repeated twice by some unnamed entity before they hung up. I presume that’s mostly how they’re informing people a day or two before they’re due to come in.

      For personal insurance purposes, I saved the voicemail and I plan to ring up on Monday and politely ask what the deal is with maintaining jobsearch and records of same as details on that have been disturbingly absent.

      I forsee a lot of people presuming the next 12 weeks are a free ride and being sanctioned for not producing what the Jobcentre deems “acceptable records of Jobsearch” at their next appointment, despite the fact many people could indeed be put out of a job over the coming months and employers are unlikely to advertise for risk of hiring an infected individual.

      AeonThePhoenix

      March 20, 2020 at 9:23 am

    • I would give them a ring and ask if I were you to save a wild goose chase.

      Clement Bevan

      March 20, 2020 at 9:41 am

    • I will be attending too until such time that I receive written notification from the jobcentre or see with my own eyes that the jobcentre is indeed closed.

      Joe the Jobseeker

      March 20, 2020 at 9:59 am

    • From the Daily Mirror:

      “The government has today suspended all Jobcentre appointments for three months due to coronavirus.

      People receiving benefits do not have to attend a Jobcentre in person for “at least” three months, starting today.

      A DWP spokesman said: ‘People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended.

      ‘People can still make applications for benefits online if they are eligible.

      ‘Jobcentres remain open, and will continue to support people who are not able to use phones and online, including homeless people.’

      The move means far fewer people will be sanctioned, as a big reason for having benefits stopped is failing to attend a Jobcentre appointment.”

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-coronavirus-dwp-suspends-jobcentre-21720988

      Artem Lacalles

      March 20, 2020 at 10:05 am

      • Yes, it says “requirements to attend”… not a word about whether maintaining jobsearch is a necessity or not. Will we be phoned fortnightly instead, asked to provide email evidence… this government is doing a crap job at informing the public of anything meaningful or helpful.

        AeonThePhoenix

        March 20, 2020 at 11:32 am

      • Just contacted the Jobcentre… after correcting the assumption I was on Universal Credit, the gentleman’s advice was to maintain Jobsearch records and bring everything in bulk to my next future appointment, whenever that might be. Apparently they’re having daily meetings over the Coronavirus and don’t know much more than we do. So, don’t let the record-keeping slide folks, we’re likely going to be heavily scrutinized when we have to return to the Jobcentre in person. If job vancancies do dry up, I’d advise taking a date/time-stamped screenshot of the sites you use every day showing that there was nothing to apply for just in case you find your weekly application count being a little short.

        AeonThePhoenix

        March 20, 2020 at 11:43 am

      • Sage advice.

        Confucious

        March 20, 2020 at 6:42 pm

  109. not going to be a problem 😉

    DSC_0052

    superted

    March 20, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    • They’ll never win with you Superted !

      Andy

      March 20, 2020 at 12:34 pm

  110. ‘Janet Burns, who helps run the Knottingley foodbank, said four people had prized open the locks of one of its storage facilities and “ransacked” the place of essential items.
    She said volunteers had taken delivery of a huge donation 24 hours before the burglary – which was all stolen in the raid. She said food, sanitary products, toilet roll and even Easter eggs that they were saving for next month had all been taken’. – Guardian

    Now people are stealing from foodbanks !

    Darren

    March 20, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    • IT’S DOG EAT DOG! EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!

      Snoop Doggy Dogshit

      March 20, 2020 at 1:38 pm

  111. I see Duncan Smith and his so-called Centre For Social Justice are arguing furiously against Universal Basic Income. He says it’s ‘a disincentive’ to work. Conveniently, his people at the CSJ have calculated the cost and said it would be far too expensive. This is bollocks of course. His main worry, apart from his religious obsessions regarding work, is that Universal Basic Income threatens his own pet project, Universal Credit. One of these is a fair and humane system, proven to cost less than the current adversarial benefit system. The other is the cruel child of neo-liberalism, and personal vanity.

    Jeff Smith

    March 20, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    • It might be a good thing for as many people as possible, previously in work and unconcerned about social security, to be exposed to the joys of universal credit in order to understand just how bad a thing it is.

      Mrs Bone

      March 20, 2020 at 1:37 pm

      • @Jeff smith: Too right there Jeff mate, well said ! No wonder IDS wants it stopped.

        Tony

        March 20, 2020 at 4:02 pm

      • Mrs Bone I work 25 hours a week and am left with barely more than id get if out of work by time rent ect is paid. I’m too scared to claim UC

        katrehman

        March 20, 2020 at 5:22 pm

  112. Johnson makes sure he can wipe his arse while demanding the peasants stop panic buying.

    Violet

    March 20, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    • Bet the worse than useless f¥cking tw@t has put all that arse paper on the taxpayers tab!

      Tigerlily

      March 20, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    • Sorry but having experienced the shite that man comes out with I don’t think a lorry load is going to be enough for him. Better order a second one Boris, you’ll need it!

      AeonThePhoenix

      March 20, 2020 at 5:48 pm

      • Theres still no rolls of anything locally,someone said to me it’ll bring out the best or the worst in people,who I spoke to said it’s the worst.

        Are some people selling these on? Soap is another item someone said I couldn’t see any but have enough of.

        ken

        March 21, 2020 at 2:41 am

      • I did shopping early yesterday morning, was in Home Bargains by 8.30am and they had sold out of soap, shower gel, toilet rolls, most tinned food, lots of empty shelves. A local shop down the road has tripled the price of large packs of toilet roll. I also normally go to Aldi, about half a mile walk from my house, but there’s not much chance of getting anything there at the moment, people have gone nuts.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 9:30 am

      • The 24 hour shops, Tesco for one, now close between 10pm and 6am. You have to be up with the lark if you want a chance of snaring a toilet roll or a bar of soap.

        Sharp Elbows

        March 21, 2020 at 9:45 am

      • How do you think people would react if say ISIS invaded the UK, an asteroid was about to whack us, Putin gave a 20 minute warning that a barrage of nuclear missiles was on there way? Would we be running around like headless chickens buying bog roll and beans. This little experiment has shown human nature for what it is. You can only imagine what will happen if the food ran out and the shops all shuttered up.

        Blaze

        March 21, 2020 at 9:55 am

      • @ Blaze

        It occurred to me that the supposed official reason for not disclosing the full truth about UFOs is probably correct, i.e. It would cause mass panic, crash the stock markets etc.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 12:43 pm

      • Oskana Boyko was interviewing some Russian ex-pat businessman on Putin’s propaganda channel, RT, the other day. He was preaching about how great humanity was. He was all for open borders. By open borders he really meant open borders into the UK, Europe and the USA, like we will ever be able to travel to Oz or the US, Russia etc. without a visa, He had no response when Oskana pointed out to him that he was conveniently forgetting there is a “dark side to human nature”. Coronavirus has shown that there is a very dark side.

        Blaze

        March 21, 2020 at 10:00 am

      • Very true, trev. Was just about to mention UFOs and aliens it but stopped short at asteroids hitting the Earth. Can you imagine how the public would react if the Government announced the presence of aliens, UFOs, that intelligent life forms had been found on other planets? Holy smoke, Batman! For one thing it would blow ALL religions out the water. We have proven once again that we are not mature enough to handle such knowledge. And then we complain about being treated like mushrooms – kept in the dark and fed shit. We deserve nothing more.

        Blaze

        March 21, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    • Cushelle isn’t it?

      Hubert Pritchard

      March 20, 2020 at 6:44 pm

  113. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-support-for-employees-benefit-claimants-and-businesses

    Changes to jobcentre appointments (19 March 2020)
    People receiving benefits do not have to attend jobcentre appointments for at least 3 months, starting from Thursday 19 March 2020. People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended.

    People can still make applications for benefits online if they are eligible.

    Jobcentres remain open, and will continue to support people who are not able to use phones and online, including homeless people.

    For people already claiming support
    Special arrangements will be in place for people in receipt of benefits who cannot attend reassessments or jobcentre appointments because they are required to stay at home or are infected by coronavirus.

    The arrangements are:

    disabled and sick claimants who cannot attend a reassessment for Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) or Universal Credit will continue to receive their payments while their assessment is rearranged
    people who need to claim ESA or Universal Credit because of coronavirus will not be required to produce a fit note.
    when claimants tell us in good time that they are staying at home or that they have been diagnosed with coronavirus, they will not be sanctioned – we will review their conditionality requirements in their claimant commitment, to ensure they are reasonable
    claimants who are staying at home as a result of coronavirus will have their mandatory work search and work availability requirements removed to account for a period of sickness.

    so if the jcp is open do we sign on or what as says nothing about jsa?

    superted

    March 20, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    • As clear a mud!

      Inspector Clueless

      March 20, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    • As clear as mud!

      Inspector Clueless

      March 20, 2020 at 1:48 pm

  114. Hunger games society, why the government is destroying small, medium and family businesses.

    Violet

    March 20, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    • I wondered when David would appear again. I’ll just ask this, is he able to produce an actual reptilian alien for scientific inspection ?

      George

      March 20, 2020 at 4:05 pm

  115. to ease everyone s mind they should send everyone a letter explaining what is going on and what they expect us to do.

    they are quick to send us a letter when we have been sanctioned.

    big bird

    March 20, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    • They send plenty of other letters such as that multi-page ‘annual review’ letter yet can’t send out a simple letter to say that you don’t have to attend the office. Will still be attending deadly bug or no deadly bug.

      joe the jobseeker

      March 23, 2020 at 11:33 pm

  116. The jury in the Alex Salmond trial has been sent home for the weekend. They will resume their deliberations on Monday.

    Court Reporter

    March 20, 2020 at 4:53 pm

  117. Guys UC is going up by 1000 a year for 1 year and housing benefit housing allowance and tax credits rising too

    katrehman

    March 20, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    • What about JSA?

      Billy Boyne

      March 20, 2020 at 5:59 pm

      • JSA is a legacy benefit that no one can claim anymore and so probably won’t be increased in the way that UC might be. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if the higher rate mentioned only goes to new claims made by people on zero-hour contracts and the self-employed rather than across the board.

        The Shoveller

        March 20, 2020 at 6:31 pm

      • JSA is being phased out and new claimants can’t get it. As the £1000.00 increase in UC is aimed at supporting working people temporarily out of work in the future there is no reason to increase JSA since only long-term claimants still get it and only until they get transferred onto UC.

        Boyce

        March 20, 2020 at 6:37 pm

  118. Anyone else watching Boris and co? Dunno what’s happening 2 me. I have been sent home after I had an asthma attack. It usually only bothers me if I have a chest infection. ..

    katrehman

    March 20, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    • I’ve just switched it on, I keep missing the Boris Show as it clashes with a UFO documentary on Blaze.

      trev

      March 20, 2020 at 5:38 pm

  119. My phone call with my advisor just been cancelled, someone will let me know at a later date

    It is my journal

    I think now it just checking my journal once a day, and update it what jobs I apply for

    All we can do

    my_final_username

    March 20, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    • The internet here is terrible during the day with speed.The only time is late/middle of the night its ok.

      EU warns of broadband strain as millions work from home
      Brussels tells streaming companies to limit services as Facebook says managing traffic is a “challenge”

      https://www.ft.com/content/b4ab03db-de1f-4f98-bcc2-b09007427e1b

      ken

      March 21, 2020 at 3:05 am

      • If people are working at home they are not working in the office so the net effect on internet traffic is NIL. Unless they are say at home streaming Netflix.

        Tabera

        March 21, 2020 at 8:41 am

  120. Bloody hell, forced closure of pubs, clubs, restaurants, leisure centres, gyms…thank God they’re not shutting laundrettes, I’ve got a fortnight’s worth of washing to do!

    trev

    March 20, 2020 at 5:52 pm

  121. “The Universal Credit standard allowance will increase by £1,000, for the next 12 months, as will the Working Tax Credit basic element.” What about JSA ?

    Billy Boyne

    March 20, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    • So off the top of my head that’s roughly an extra 20 quid a week, so JSA will be around £92/94 per week (ish). It’s bound to be JSA too, not just UC I would have thought. It’s just that for some strange reason they’re pretending that JSA doesn’t exist.

      trev

      March 20, 2020 at 6:07 pm

      • It’s a legacy benefit that can’t be claimed anymore and so can’t benefit the self-employed/zero-hour workers that the bung announced is aimed at. Therefore I would bet the farm that Jobseeker’s Benefit will not rise by over £1000.00 per year. Hopefully it will be uprated for the first time in four years to reflect inflation although things being what they are I wouldn’t bet on it. Can’t you ask to be transferred onto Universal Credit and cash in? That’s what I would do if I were you.

        J. Riddle

        March 20, 2020 at 6:27 pm

      • @ J. Riddle

        If it comes down to a straight forward choice between an extra £20 on UC or stay as you are on JSA, I’d choose JSA. If they then said you can have a further £20 deduction of JSA if you don’t want to do any jobsearch or ever attend any more employability skills courses, then I would choose that option too.

        trev

        March 20, 2020 at 6:34 pm

      • @ I wouldn’t put it past the DWP to run two different amounts. In order to entice people off JSA and onto Universal Credit.

        Graham

        March 20, 2020 at 7:23 pm

      • It wouldn’t entice me.

        trev

        March 20, 2020 at 7:31 pm

      • @ J Riddle-

        JSA has already been confirmed as uprated to £74.35 from the 6th April.

        @ trev-

        I suspect JSA, Income Support and ESA will not be increasing. It’s a ploy to get the stragglers onto UC by enticing them with the promise of extra cash. I’d be careful though, presumably you’ll have to go five weeks without money if you voluntarily move over.

        KJ

        March 22, 2020 at 3:13 am

    • Probably only for new claims I bet.

      Doubting Tamsyn

      March 20, 2020 at 6:23 pm

      • J Riddle they specifically mentioned tax cresits and housing benefit too and you can’t claim those now. They’re legacy benefits as is jobseekers

        katrehman

        March 20, 2020 at 7:09 pm

      • J riddLe it also mentioned tax credits and housing benefit and they can’t be claimed anymore too as they’re legacy benefits as is jobseekers

        katrehman

        March 20, 2020 at 7:14 pm

      • That’s true Kat, I think JSA will also increase, it surely would have to be included, but like I’ve said, they seem to have some bizarre aversion to even mentioning that JSA still exists. JSA claimants are persona non grata.

        trev

        March 20, 2020 at 7:27 pm

  122. Oddly, whilst my GP surgery is in lockdown, the dentists across the road is operating as normal and I’ve got a check-up appointment on Tuesday. Maybe I’ll cancel.

    trev

    March 20, 2020 at 6:00 pm

  123. It’s odd that Jobseeker’s Allowance has not even been mentioned in these new increases. Even the Housing Benefit increase isn’t all it seems. Housing Benefit is already set at 30% of average rents. So you won’t see much difference there. It seems as if the legacy benefit claimants are deliberately being ignored. I wouldn’t bank on JSA being increased by a single penny. There are still going to be an estimated 700,000 job losses over the next 12 months. And probably a considerable shift to zero-hours employment, to fill the gap as things get back to normal. Who has to do zero-hours and part-time work ? People on Universal Credit.
    Who does not have to do zero-hours work ? People on Jobseeker’s Allowance.

    Jeff Smith

    March 20, 2020 at 7:51 pm

    • This deliberate attempt at willfully ignoring JSA claimants is indicative of Tory bloody-mindedness in their determination to steam-roller ahead with Universal Credit regardless of the costs, both human and financial, in the misguided belief that it is a great success and the best thing since sliced bread. Of course deep down they know full well it’s been an unmitigated disaster from the beginning, but they dare not admit to that even they know it and everyone else knows it.

      trev

      March 20, 2020 at 8:25 pm

      • Thing is the £1,000 increase is for one year only, aimed at raising UC to the same level as SSP (Statutory Sick Pay) so that the self-employed and people on zero-hour contracts and whatnot can claim UC at the same rate as SSP to tide them over if their earnings are hit during the Covid-19 epidemic. It’s not designed to help benefit claimants per se but as a temporary sweetener to stop certain categories of workers moaning about getting less help from the state than normal full-time salaried workers, if they get strapped for cash, and because all new claims for help these days are for Universal Credit only UC gets the increase.

        THE INCREASE IS NOT DESIGNED TO HELP BENEFIT CLAIMANTS BUT TO HELP WORKERS HIT BY DIFFICULTIES DURING THE COVID-19 EPIDEMIC WHO ARE FORCED TO CLAIM UC TEMPORARILY.

        Jobseeker’s Allowance is a dying legacy benefit and anybody on it must have been on it a LONG time.

        Kicky

        March 21, 2020 at 6:23 am

      • Does Microsoft still provide support for ‘legacy’ operating systems such as Windows 95, XP, Windows 7. No they don’t. Legacy operating systems are airbrushed from history as soon as support ends. So why do you expect the DWP to still provide support for a legacy benefit? JSA is no longer supported.

        William Gates III

        March 21, 2020 at 8:48 am

      • Nobody on Jobseeker’s Allowance ended up on it because of coronavirus. THIS is why JSA won’t benefit from the temporary £1,000.00 uprating. The uprating is to help people who need support from the state because of the virus and claim UC temporarily; it looks as if everybody else will get it too, presumably because it’s too difficult to pay UC at different rates based on infection by the virus. All those on JSA will just have to put on their big boy or big girl pants and suck it up.

        Wolfie

        March 21, 2020 at 10:07 am

      • yeah, the very long term dole scum still sat on jsa ain’t gonna get an extra penny.

        eastlfe

        March 21, 2020 at 10:34 am

      • JSA is the operating equivalent of Windows 95 😀

        Steve Jobs

        March 21, 2020 at 10:38 am

      • JSA is the operating system equivalent of WIndows 95 😀

        Steve Jobs

        March 21, 2020 at 10:39 am

      • Will those of us still claiming National Assistance receive this increase?

        Labour Exchange

        March 21, 2020 at 10:42 am

      • @ Wolfie- Or drop the JSA claim and apply for UC.

        KJ

        March 22, 2020 at 3:03 am

  124. It seems Duncan Smith and his Christian acolytes at the Centre for Social Justice, have managed to steer the government away from Universal Basic Income.

    Proverbs 19:17 (NIV)
    “Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done.”

    Alan Turner

    March 20, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    • So Alan using that logician drunken spite and his cronies will burn in he’ll. ..

      katrehman

      March 20, 2020 at 11:11 pm

  125. On the bright side Jobcentres will soon be referring unemployed people for temporary work at supermarkets like ASDA, Tesco and Sainsburys to stack shelves and unload lorries etc., because they need thousands more people to restock their stores and help them keep up with demand. Good news I think we can all agree although kind of sad it’s being caused by a disease like coronavirus.

    Morris

    March 21, 2020 at 6:38 am

    • ASDA take work experience slaves from the providers. Don’t expect to get paid. But the unpaid work will look good on your CV 😀

      Asda Slave

      March 21, 2020 at 8:53 am

    • Panic buyer/ prepper bastards can burn in HELL!! Fuck stacking shelves or driving delivery vans for these connards. These bastards are the lowest of the low. Pure fucking SCUM!!

      Shelf Stacker

      March 21, 2020 at 8:56 am

    • @ Morris

      I’ve applied for supermarket jobs in the past but have never got passed the online test consisting of about 20 stupid questions; “If the manager told you to do this but that happened what would you do? A, B, C, D….etc. Though I have recently registered with Morrisons without any test but haven’t heard back from them.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 9:38 am

      • You are leaving your shift when you receive a phone call that your kid has been hit by a truck and is in a critical condition in hospital. As you are leaving the manager calls you back and says that they have received a delivery of toilet roll that needs to stacked before the panic buyers descend at 6am. What do to do?

        A) Go to the hospital
        B) Go back into the shop

        Scroll down for answer
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        The answer is B) You got back into the shop.

        Another one. Work is the most important thing in my life Agree/Disagree.

        Answer: Agree

        Bet you answered A) Go to the hospital and Disagree. See now where you are going wrong?

        Recruiter

        March 21, 2020 at 10:23 am

      • @ Recruiter

        The questions were along those lines but more ambiguous, not quite so cut & dried choices.

        You are working on the checkout with a long line of customers to serve and have been given a target to keep, an old lady drops a box of eggs as you are serving her, do you break off from serving other customers to clean up the mess yourself, do you call for another assistant to clean up the mess and get replacement eggs, do you call for another assistant to take your place on the checkout, do you call for the Manager, do you continue serving the other customers? Select answers in order of the best and worst things to do.

        There were about 20 fucking questions of that nature, and I’m fucked if I know what I’d do.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      • There is a variant on that question for a call centre. You have targets. An old man phones with a problem with his landline. Do you sell him broadband? Broadband + Sky Sports? Contact Openreach to fix his landline? You have to find out what they are are looking and how to answer or you are screwed.

        Jenny

        March 21, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    • A supermarket is the LAST place that you would want to be working at the moment. They are all shit scared of catching this ‘deadly virus’. The self-scan machines are being constantly disinfected. Anything that involves close contact with the public is to be avoided like hospital work, bus drivers etc. The DWP can stuff these jobs. The dolies weren’t good enough before anyway, so why now? Something to do with a ‘deadly virus’ on the go?

      De Tol

      March 22, 2020 at 10:04 am

      • @De Tol

        You know the other place I’d hate to be working? A Job Centre. They’re soon going to be flooded by new claimants recently made unemployed, or the self employed whose businesses have collapsed. That’s thousands of irate, impatient, potentially infected people, coughing, sneezing and shouting in the advisers faces when they are told they will have to wait five weeks to get paid.

        Good luck!

        bob

        March 23, 2020 at 2:28 pm

  126. Suddenly the true reason for FEMA CAMPS situated in remote areas of the U.S.A. seems to make sense as the controlled release of laboratory engineered pathogens into our airspace is hyped to the limit to bring about
    a collapse of world values amid mass hysteria.

    Google the words, FEMA CAMP and try to understand who would purchase millions of plastic coffins large enough to carry several bodies.

    Divide and rule using the element of fear.

    Vast amounts of untold wealth suddenly available to combat a multitude of crises around the globe.

    Vigilante groups and rioting may follow sooner than you think as martial law unfolds on our streets and the main stream media plays out it’s role in the biggest con trick ever…………………………CORONA VIRUS!

    timfrom

    March 21, 2020 at 10:04 am

    • We are not bothered. Our freezers are stuffed to the gunnels. We have enough food, water and toilet rolls stashed to last at least 25 years. Like anything is going to affect us.

      The Preppers

      March 21, 2020 at 10:08 am

    • Where did Rishi Sunak suddenly magic up £400 billion from? Thought there was no magic money tree?

      Abracadaba

      March 21, 2020 at 10:12 am

      • This is still a wealthy country, and there has always been a magic money tree. It’s just that the Tories pretend it’s not there most of the time. That’s Conservatism for you.

        Xenia

        March 21, 2020 at 12:50 pm

      • Sunak made his millions as a merchant banker before the crash, trading in sub prime mortgages etc. Just like the previous chancellor did. Maybe he should return all that money to the taxpayers who had to bale out the banks.

        Ali

        March 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm

  127. ha,
    so people losing their jobs have a cheek to say universal credit is not enough to livee on, they weren’t saying that when they have been looking at us dole scum for years.

    big bird

    March 21, 2020 at 10:08 am

  128. Where I live the Jobcentres are already recruiting for supermarkets, contacting claimants and sending them for interviews. Hereabouts Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Lidl, Morrison’s and Aldi are all competing for staff and offering more money per hour than usual! The supermarkets are so desperate for staff at present they are no longer testing people online in many cases as usual. Basically these businesses are happy to give anybody a chance these days and Jobcentres, with not much else to do, are busily contacting claimants and forcing them to take these positions under threat of sanctions if they refuse. Most of these jobs involve doing things which need no or very little training, e.g., replacing good on shelves, often during unsociable hours. Still when all is said and done work is work and it’s best to grab it while you can even though, because of the number of customers visiting in supermarkets 24/7, you will have an increased chance of catching Corvid-19 although not much chance of perishing thank God!

    Steve-O

    March 21, 2020 at 10:25 am

    • And even higher chance of catching the deadly virus if you are working in more cramped stores like Aldi and Lidl. Wouldn’t be so sure of not perishing. Why take the chance with your life? People that perish are quickly forgotten about and the survivors quickly move on. Let the hoarders stack their own shelves. It is not the unemployed who are stripping the shelves bare.

      Sami

      March 21, 2020 at 10:50 am

    • @ Steve- O

      Trouble is with a lot of supermarket /retail jobs you don’t get a full-time contract, you might only be contracted to work 8 hours but may be required to work 20 or 30 hours, but you don’t know from week to week how many hours you’ll be working or how much you’ll be earning. How can anyone budget for bills and rent in that situation? Ok perhaps if you have a partner in full-time work with a regular income and the retail job is just a supplementary second wage coming in, but no good for a single person living alone in rented accommodation. I don’t want to have to be claiming UC on top of working, if I get a job I want to sign off Benefits completely and have fuck all to do with the DWP.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 1:05 pm

      • @ trev

        You make it sound as if we can pick and choose, mate, and where I come from people on benefits fit for work can’t. No way, no how. It’s do what you’re told or be stripped of your money. Even if you are sanctioned unfairly, appeal and eventually get what was taken away back you end up without any money to live on for months and months and I’m not in a position to do that. If you can pull strokes and get away with it good luck to you.

        Steve-O

        March 21, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    • Funny when the chips are down and they are desperate for staff in work in an environment strewn with a deadly virus all the assessments, interviews, references and stupid questions that trev can’t answer go by the wayside. The Coronavirus Act even suspends criminal record checks. Kind of like with the mandatory work schemes of old. Just goes to show what a load of all bull these assessments, etc, are. Regular staff will be looking for relief and want to take time off whilst the dolies expose themselves to danger. If they dolies survive they will be dumped like a soiled rag as soon as this virus passes.

      Forest

      March 21, 2020 at 3:36 pm

  129. We saw a young Chinese girl with an overflowing trolley being pulled over in Tesco the other night by what looked like a manager. Security was still stood at his pod.. He asked her “Why have you bought so much?”, “I have many people to feed”. He then ushered her in the direction of the customer services area. Her shopping was already packed in reusable carrier bags in the trolley. She had already paid for it. They then started taking it out and scanning it. Presumably to take it back and issue a refund. Never seen this happen before. Can they even take goods back that you have already paid for?

    Roslyn

    March 21, 2020 at 10:59 am

  130. Not looking good for the fight against global warming.Another clear demonstration of the interests of the self superseding the interests of the collective.

    Greta

    March 21, 2020 at 12:36 pm

  131. Had a feeling iain Duncan Smith and his Tory cronies would do everything they could to sink Universal Basic Income. It goes to the heart of Universal Credit. In his view it’s about making people work, whatever the consequences.

    Rod

    March 21, 2020 at 12:43 pm

  132. The UK has just 6.6 intensive care beds per 100,000 people – half the number in Italy and about a fifth of the total in Germany . Ten years of Tory attacks on the NHS , now what ?

    Nathan

    March 21, 2020 at 12:48 pm

  133. Coronavirus scare – the hoax of the century? Dr Vernon Coleman explains why he thinks the current hysteria over the coronavirus has a hidden agenda.

    Cloverleaf

    March 21, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    • @ Cloverleaf

      I don’t think it can be a hoax when people in their 20s are now dying in Italy. By the time this is all over could be millions dead.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 3:49 pm

      • Trev, are you still lapping up the bullshit from the fakestream media!

        Tigerlily

        March 21, 2020 at 3:59 pm

      • It’s a big excuse to force us all to be forcibly vaccinated then millions really will die, if you refuse to be vaxxed you won’t be allowed to enter any public places like supermarkets, jobcentres etc or even be allowed to travel on public transport, please do some research on this and try and wake up things are going to get out of hand very soon.

        Cloverleaf

        March 21, 2020 at 4:17 pm

      • Many prescriptions medicines, drugs etc have been found to be harmful to human health, so probably not too far from the truth.

        Laumer

        March 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm

      • Rubbish! Modern medicine is the main reason why the human population has grown so high. Vaccines save lives.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    • Oh cock off, you fucking conspiracy theory pushing nutcase.

      KJ

      March 22, 2020 at 2:45 am

      • Cock off yourself

        Violet

        March 22, 2020 at 9:28 am

  134. lol trev and you are sat by your phone waiting for coachy to phone with an offer of a job in a supermarket 😀
    the same coach that gave you a contaminated pen to sign on 😀 Do you want to make it through this alive or do you want to wind up dead. Best advice is to hunker down, get supplies, beans, bullets and barbed wire. Get supplies when the malls are less crowded. Avoid public transport at all cost. Get some fresh air and exercise but beware of contamination in your immediate area, better to use stairs rather than lifts etc.
    observe you neighbours. Be ready to make a run for it, have a ‘bug-out bag’ ready, access to a reliable vehicle with full tank is ideal but you have to make a move quick, it you leave it too late it will be too late. Don’t trust any media. Keep in contact with a few people you trust. And above all, use your own common sense rather than relying on an instruction from authority. This could easily descend into a deadly fight not just for toilet tissue but your very survival.

    Survialist

    March 21, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    • Don’t rely on your smartphone either. The internet could go down in a flash. Keep some cash handy. Automated tellers could do down at any time. Have some gold and silver to hand to trade with. Have a battery radio with spare batteries, the wider it’s coverage the better. .keep essential medication handy. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

      Survialist

      March 21, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    • @ Survivalist

      Thanks for the advice but I’ll just do the sensible things like washing my hands, using hand sanitizer, and avoiding unnecessary social contact where possible, though I do sometimes have to come into contact with other people such as in shops, or at the laundrette, and when working in the foodbank, for e.g. But other than that I’ll stay at home and trust in God. If it’s my time to die who am I to argue with that? If I live I live. After all, I know I have lived before, so why worry about it?

      P.S.

      My Work Coach can’t send me for any jobs unless they’re full time as I’m on JSA not UC.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 4:44 pm

      • Coachy should be on ignore. Fuck coachy!

        Enlipe

        March 21, 2020 at 5:01 pm

      • Metempsychosis was out of vogue for a time but now reincarnation is making a come back! Heh!

        Joker

        March 21, 2020 at 5:37 pm

  135. Coronavirus: People urged not to visit Highlands to flee virus

    People have been urged to stop travelling to the Highlands in a bid to avoid the coronavirus.

    It follows reports of people with second homes or those with campervans travelling to the area in recent days.

    The issue has prompted Scotland’s finance secretary, who is also a Highlands MSP, to tell people to stay away.

    Kate Forbes said people should not make the Highlands their “means of self-isolation”.

    ‘Escaping the cities’

    To date there have been 373 confirmed cases of coronavirus in Scotland, only eight of them have been in the Highlands.

    In a tweet posted on Friday evening, Ms Forbes, who represents Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch, said: “If you live elsewhere, please don’t use the Highlands as your means of self-isolation. People live here who are trying to follow government guidance and the continuing flow of campervans and other traffic who appear to be escaping the cities is not helping.”

    If you live elsewhere, please don’t use the Highlands as your means of self-isolation. People live here who are trying to follow government guidance and the continuing flow of campervans and other traffic who appear to be escaping the cities is not helping. https://t.co/85sdtdyS3w
    — Kate Forbes MSP (@KateForbesMSP) March 20, 2020

    Her intervention comes as the first minister confirmed compulsory closures of restaurants, cafes, pubs, gyms and cinemas across Scotland.

    But Nicola Sturgeon said the crisis would pass if people followed health advice and looked out for each other.

    Ms Sturgeon also warned that the number of Covid-19 cases was “set to rise sharply”.

    She urged people to follow social distancing advice to save lives and reduce pressure on the NHS.

    ISLANDS OF BARRA AND VATERSAY ARE CLOSED. Don’t travel here, don’t put unnecessary strain on our medical staff and limited resources. We will open again and be delighted to see you. But in the meantime we are looking after our community, the thing that makes us so special.
    — 𝙄𝙨𝙡𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝘽𝙖𝙧𝙧𝙖 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@BarraIsland) March 20, 2020

    In the Western Isles, where there have been no confirmed cases of the virus so far, locals from Barra and Vatersay also urged people not to travel there to avoid the virus.

    They described the isles as “closed”.

    A social media post said: “Don’t travel here, don’t put unnecessary strain on our medical staff and limited resources.

    “We will open again and be delighted to see you. But in the meantime we are looking after our community, the thing that makes us so special.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-51990534

    Zombie Apocalypse

    March 21, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    • Zombies are fleeing London.

      Zombie Apocalypse

      March 21, 2020 at 5:03 pm

      • MPs often return to their constituencies at weekends.

        Argh!

        March 21, 2020 at 5:35 pm

  136. Unconfirmed twitter reports/rumours/fake news of convoys of Army vehicles on M74 and other motorways.

    Zombie Apocalypse

    March 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm

  137. If you stop bathing and stop laundering your clothes until the epidemic ends your body odour will help you to avoid social contact. You will also save money on toilet soap, water and washing powder. Win, win, win. You know it makes sense.

    Whiffy Grimes

    March 21, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    • Most of the people who haunt this site are already doing that and have been doing it for years previously as it happens.

      Muddy Boots

      March 21, 2020 at 5:41 pm

  138. This same day, statistically around 5,000 people in the world quietly died from tuberculosis & no armies deployed…. wtf?

    Think about that.

    Violet

    March 21, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    • you have a 99.8% chance of not going to die from controllus virus ppl are thick as shit to believe this crap half a million ppl die in the uk every year.

      177 are now dead from cv

      The Department for Transport (DfT) has announced there were 1,784 reported road deaths in 2018.

      Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that’s nearly 170,000 deaths each year – an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.

      Drug deaths rose sharply in England and Wales to reach record numbers last year, official figures show. There were 2,917 deaths from illicit drugs in 2018, the Office of National Statistics said, a rise of 17%

      The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe’s population. In total, the plague may have reduced the world population from an estimated 475 million to 350–375 million in the 14th century
      A rough estimate is that 25 million people in Europe died from plague during the Black Death.

      it does not add up what the governments are doing there is no need for it at all it is being done on purpose for a reason.

      and that reason will be killing more of us than any virus you wait and see. im still going to sign on, why not? there still open.

      superted

      March 21, 2020 at 6:37 pm

      • Well said ted spot on!

        Violet

        March 21, 2020 at 6:59 pm

      • Thing is that by slowing or stopping people from being infected with Covid-19 you can save lives, same as you can with heart and circulatory diseases by giving people medicines, surgery and other treatments, which almost everybody will get if they need them from the NHS, which keeps people alive for longer than otherwise but can’t stop them dying eventually. If you can extend the lives of people with heart and respiratory disease you would wouldn’t you and, similarly, if you can save thousands of lives by taking action against coronavirus why would you act differently? So far 12,964 people have dies who would have lived if they hadn’t contracted the disease which is increasing its spread exponentially.

        https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

        There are about 65.64 million people in the UK and if 1% died because of the virus 656,400 men and women would be lying in their graves, prematurely, who wouldn’t be if they had not been infected with Covid-19.

        If no action is taken many hundreds of thousands are predicted to die based on the growth of the disease in the population. There is no country in the world that is not acting to curb the expansion of Corvid-19. Not even North America under the unwise and irresponsible Donald Trump, a man who said first that the virus was a hoax, later not much worse than a heavy cold or the flu, and now closing the borders of his country to outsiders and declaring a national emergency.

        Coronavirus isn’t deadly in the way that Spanish Flu was but it is deadly serious and needs serious attention.

        Dai Bando

        March 21, 2020 at 8:08 pm

      • If it can’t pass to a new host it will just die out surely? Hunkering down and lying low until it passes over has to be the best approach. We are living, breathing human beings, when we are gone we are gone. Unlike money we cannot be printed. If we have to stay off work – just print some money. If the markets crash – just print some money. Money is not even real, it is an abstract concept. Coronavirus may not even be real.

        Ben Bernacke

        March 21, 2020 at 10:52 pm

      • Women have a 0.65% chance of dying g of cervical cancer yet for years we have been bullied and forced into having smear tests because doctors receive financial incentives if 80% of the women on the practice list get smeared. Every year around 900 women die of this cancer and 875 women die in falls on stairs. The no 1 killer of women is stroke and heart disease. Never mind forced vaccinations women have been forced into screening for countless years!

        katrehman

        March 22, 2020 at 3:16 am

      • You can opt out of smear tests, Kat, but you can’t opt out of Covid-19 if its spread isn’t controlled. The Spanish Flu, which actually began in America, ended up killing over 50,000,000 people worldwide because people didn’t practice self-isolation which allowed the virus to spread around the world like wildfire.

        Juan Genaro Flores

        March 22, 2020 at 7:43 am

  139. When everyone is not aloud to go out, they will police it by tracking people’s smart phones to see if they left their house. If you leave your smart at home they can not track you going out. But most people can’t live without smart phones, so these people will be going to a detention center for at least 3 months & a £10,000 fine.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 21, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    • Indeed Juan we can opt out of smear tests but only in recent years have we been told this or how to do it. When data protection laws changed a bill was rushed through to say that an epidemic of this cancer would occur if women’s details weren’t rounded up so they could be “invited” for screening. Women have been refused diabetes and asthma meds or even an appointment to discuss bunions until she had a smear. Women buy drugs online to avoid docs and pap crap. This programme has ridden roughshod over our rights for YEAR.S. And yes I know we can’t opt out of Coronavirus. But just as I blog about workers rights etc I also blog about this vile programme to raise awareness of it!

      katrehman

      March 22, 2020 at 9:52 am

  140. Put phone on airplane mode then they can’t track you I do it all the time.

    Violet

    March 21, 2020 at 7:01 pm

  141. TV Licensing goons put ‘NOT IN?’ card through the door and were round loudly banging on the door this evening. We don’t even watch the BBC. Come on, Boris, grow a pair and closedown these bastards – permanently. They won’t be missed.

    TVL - FUCK OFF!

    March 21, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    • There has been markedly increased activity from the TVL goons lately. They must think we are all stuck indoors ‘self-isolating’.

      bev

      March 22, 2020 at 6:28 pm

  142. Just seen all DWP staff will be made key workers as the system gears up to take the predicted avalanche of new claims from ppl losing their jobs claiming sickness pay ect. Oh and a worker at Buckingham Palace has tested positive for the virus

    katrehman

    March 22, 2020 at 9:45 am

  143. Why have the DWP chosen to use some sort of ‘gif’ image that you need a supercomputer to display. What
    fucking planet do the DWP live on. Like those on there miserly benefits have the very latest up-to-date supercomputer. Fucking arsewipes!

    DWP are ARSEWIPES!!

    March 22, 2020 at 9:57 am

  144. Comment [before it is deleted] on a local newspaper article about ‘coronavirus’ [before it is deleted]

    “Why does [local newspaper] delete comments on these stories?
    Some comments are logical and insightful, yet they disappear quickly”

    What is going on here? Is the coronavirus ‘narrative’ being controlled? Why the censorship?

    Big Mags

    March 22, 2020 at 10:18 am

  145. WALMINGTON-ON-SEA

    BRITISH MILITARY PLANNERS DRAFTED IN TO HELP MAINTAIN LOCKDOWN IN COUNCIL AREAS.

    Captain Mainwaring

    March 22, 2020 at 11:05 am

    • “Don’t panic, don’t panic…”

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 3:42 pm

  146. Breaking news…

    Dominic Cummings: Protect the economy and if some pensioners die, ‘too bad’

    Corana Virus News Update Premium Subscription Service

    March 22, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    • how much of his dole does coates spend to bring us this ‘service’, i wonder?

      curious

      March 22, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      • @coates – The Hidden Master has no time for your petty insults.

        Zephyrus

        March 22, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    • Me: “Protect Pensioners and the economy and if Dominic Cummings dies: Too bad.”

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 12:42 pm

  147. When the German ‘discounters’ first opened up shop they they only had trolleys, no baskets in their stores. They admitted this was to get us to buy more. (Now they have larger baskets that you can wheel around if you want.) So, given the current situation why haven’t the supermarkets not locked away the trolleys? They should go one step further and remove the baskets too. You may have a huge 4×4 Range Rover sat out in the car park but having to make repeat trips for one can of beans must surely be a deterrent to these greedy, fuck-everyone-else shelf-striping bastards.

    Elsa

    March 22, 2020 at 12:25 pm

  148. It would be more realistic if the DWP suspended jobsearch requirements for the next 3 months. During this time of national emergency.

    Tom Sutton

    March 22, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    • its not likely that you are going to get any interviews is it lol just a waste of time as usual 😉

      superted

      March 22, 2020 at 2:07 pm

      • I went for jobs at supermarkets and failed the online tests.

        There is likely to be less adverts to apply for now.So much needs to be done and people on benefits just abandoned.

        ken

        March 22, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    • Totally agree Tom, but they are not likely to officially publicly announce that as it would be seen as giving something to the ‘workshy scroungers’, and going soft on the ‘shirkers’. In reality I suspect that they will be unofficially forced to turn a blind eye to jobsearch as there are fewer job opportunities and jobsearch is limited and hindered by the current situation. Let’s face it, who’s going to have the time to check back through 3 months of jobsearch evidence when we do eventually return to attending the Jobcentres. I will keep doing the odd bit as I can online, click-apply for any old shite and keep the confirmation emails in a separate folder just in case, but it’s not a primary concern. But I’m on jsa so that’s ok, not sure how those on UC go on with their journals and all that malarkey.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 3:20 pm

      • @trev- It’s ridiculous, as you say, they don’t have the staff to check a 3 month pile of jobsearch for each claimant. And because of a justifiable fear of being sanctioned, many claimants are having to visit public libraries to keep their jobsearch going. Exposing themselves to risk of infection each time. But the pubs, cafes etc. have all been closed. So where in all common-sense, is the difference between someone going to a crowded library, or to the local pub ? But one look at the face of Duncan Smith, when confronted with the possibility of Universal Basic Income said it all. Horrified suspicion that people might like UBI, see all the advantages of it, and then not want to give it up.

        Tom Sutton

        March 22, 2020 at 3:48 pm

      • @trev

        None of my advisers have ever asked for “proof” of anything, so my jobsearch on Universal Credit isn’t really that much different to JSA.

        The big change was when the Jobcentre stopped manually putting jobs on their own dedicated website and outsourced the whole operation. They used to be able to contact employers direct to check if you had applied. Now, they have no way of checking.

        bob

        March 23, 2020 at 2:57 pm

  149. Twatter

    March 22, 2020 at 2:29 pm

  150. People make mistakes.

    B(,)(,)bs

    March 22, 2020 at 2:58 pm

  151. Alright for some.

    “This means that (from April) for a single Universal Credit claimant (aged 25 or over), the standard allowance will increase from £317.82 to £409.89 per month”

    Birmingham Mail

    Limp Richard

    March 22, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    • So no increase for the pariahs of society on JSA, which is probably a million or two people, left struggling to survive on 70-odd poxy quid.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 3:40 pm

      • @trev: Yeah, it’s punishment for the legacy claimants. And you can bet that the DWP attitude is get onto Universal Credit then if you don’t like it.

        Pete

        March 22, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    • That is over £20 nicker a week between uc and the jsa equivalent! Over £40 nicker a fortnight and over £1000 nicker a year, Hardly chump change. How can the DWP get away with paying claimants in EXACTLY the same circumstances a different rate, a significantly different rate? This has to be challenged in the courts.

      joe jobseeker

      March 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm

      • DWP answer: “JSA recipients can voluntary transfer themselves onto Universal Credit at their discretion. If they choose to stay on JSA rather than have their claim transferred to the new system they have refused, voluntarily, to accept the terms, conditions and obligations Universal Credit demands and therefore disqualified themselves from receiving the extra help, support and higher payment rates available with Universal Credit until migrated compulsorily from the legacy system to the new system in due course.”

        Tom Tom Club

        March 22, 2020 at 4:24 pm

      • @ Tom Tom

        Where did you get that quote from, is there a link?

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 4:38 pm

      • @ Joe Jobseeker

        The Nasty Party strikes again. Even a Global Pandemic is insufficient grounds to suspend the Class War.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 6:33 pm

      • What if Sunak bungs another £20 onto uc? JSA will be left in the dirt. He could be in the process of doubling it,,, and then some, for all we know. Just the like Class War’s manifesto 😉

        I Bone

        March 22, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    • They’ll have a bloody hard time trying to strip this increase out of UC come April 2021. Has any government ever reduced a social security benefit by £1000 in one go? There will be hell to pay if they try to do this you mark my words.

      Stephen

      March 22, 2020 at 4:14 pm

  152. Revealed: official guidance for doctors to decide which coronavirus patients get critical care

    Triage to be based on patient ‘frailty score’ and age-banded mortality tables for pneumonia and underlying heart and lung conditions

    Official guidance has been issued to NHS intensive care doctors on how to decide which coronavirus patients should get critical care.

    The guidance was issued by National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) yesterday and provides an “algorithm” to help doctors decide who should be admitted to critical care and who should not.

    In Italy there has been controversy as – with hospitals overwhelmed – doctors have reportedly been forced to discriminate between patients based crudely on age alone.

    The UK has about half the number of critical care beds per head of population as Italy and intensive care doctors here have been calling for central guidance on triage to be issued for several days.

    The NICE guidance does not categorise potential patients by age but instead asks doctors to score patients on a nine-point “clinical frailty scale” [CFS] .
    Nice advice

    At one end of the scale, with a score of one, are the “Very Fit” – people who are “robust, active, energetic and motivated”, and who “exercise regularly”. At the other end, with a score of nine, are the “Terminally ill”.

    The NICE algorithm divides patients at a score of five, the “Mildly Frail”.

    Those with a score of less than five who would like critical care are considered well enough to benefit, subject to a review of any underlying conditions and the severity of their illness.

    Those scoring over five are put through a process where doctors must decide if critical care is “considered appropriate” before proceeding.

    “For patients with confirmed Covid-19, decisions about admission to critical care should be made on the basis of medical benefit, taking into account the likelihood that the person will recover to an outcome that is acceptable to them and within a period of time consistent with the diagnosis,” says NICE

    Frailty scale

    Intensive care doctors use frailty scales in normal times to assess patients.

    But the new triage guidance also provides them with mortality data for patients suffering from pneumonia in critical care beds compared to a regular ward. This data is banded by age as are similar mortality tables for patients with and without underlying heart and lung conditions.

    These data will help doctors make better informed decisions beyond the patient’s frailty score on the “medical benefit” of their receiving critical care.

    Most coronavirus deaths are caused by pneumonia.

    The guidelines also say that Covid-19 patients receiving treatment for cancer or who need dialysis must also be carefully assessed ahead of receiving critical care.

    “Where decisions need to be made about prioritising patients for treatment, these need to take into account the level of immunosuppression associated with individual treatments and cancer types,” it says.

    Nice says the guidelines will be updated as more data becomes available. They have been produced in collaboration with NHS England and a cross-specialty clinical group, supported by the specialist societies and Royal Colleges, it adds.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/revealed-official-guidance-doctors-decide-coronavirus-patients/

    Newshounds

    March 22, 2020 at 4:00 pm

  153. So we can look forward to more of this discrimination in the future between JSA claimants and Universal Credit claimants ? A double-standard of DWP service ?

    Colin Claimant

    March 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    • JSA is being phased out and won’t be around that much longer.

      Tolstrup

      March 22, 2020 at 4:16 pm

      • @ Tolstrup

        Yes JSA is being phased out but it will still be at least another 4 years before that happens. If it happens. I think it’s inevitable that UC will evolve into Basic Income in the end, once IDS has snuffed it, or Labour gets back in.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 4:35 pm

      • @ trev

        No, mate. That’s wrong. The 2024 date is the year when EVERYBODY receiving ANY of the six legacy benefits will be receiving their equivalent by means of Universal Credit. It doesn’t mean that people will keep on receiving Jobseeker’s Allowance for another four years; migration of JSA claimants onto UC is supposed to be one of the “primary landmarks” set by the DWP . The government will not want to go into the next election with millions of people still on legacy benefits wants to “front load” migrating JSA claimants to UC in order to get the pain over early in the current parliament, have time to iron out forthcoming difficulties, and rise out forthcoming scandals. My bet is that the JSA migration will happen sooner rather than later and pick up speed as it goes.

        It will come too late to enjoy the £1000.00 handout though.

        Tolstrup

        March 22, 2020 at 5:15 pm

  154. wtf did this come from?

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-style-jobseekers-allowance

    https://www.understandinguniversalcredit.gov.uk/coronavirus/

    why are jsa claimants not getting the £1000 it is discrimination !

    Changes to how much you’ll get

    From 6 April the government is increasing the standard allowance in Universal Credit and the basic element in Working Tax Credit for one year. Both will increase by £20 per week on top of planned annual uprating. This will apply to all new and existing Universal Credit claimants and to existing Working Tax Credit claimants.

    This means that for a single Universal Credit claimant (aged 25 or over), the standard allowance will increase from £317.82 to £409.89 per month.

    superted

    March 22, 2020 at 4:59 pm

    • @ superted

      “New Style JSA” ????? WTF? When did that go through Parliament? They’re making it up as they go along.
      Wouldn’t it just be easier and cheaper to scrap the whole bloody lot and simply introduce Basic Income? It’s a bloody shambles.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 5:27 pm

      • no idea it was updated on 14 feb why? did they know this was going to happen lol.

        any new claims were uc or nothing same with a change in circumstances.

        now you can make a jsa claim if you have been in work 2 years.

        so much for scrapping jsa it is now active again.

        but if you make a claim for that then you wont get the extra £1000 why? when you have been paying in to the system is taking the fucking piss!

        superted

        March 22, 2020 at 5:39 pm

      • @ superted

        So now we’ve got old style JSA (that they don’t want to mention), “New Style JSA”, AND Universal Credit. I thought they were supposed to be simplifying the Benefits system.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      • Never mind JSA, trev. Ammo – you’ll need lots of ammo, a flash-light and night-vision goggles. JSA ain’t no good when you are bugging out in the woods.

        Redneck

        March 22, 2020 at 6:20 pm

      • New style JSA is effectively contribution based Universal Credit Trev. It was introduced at the same time as UC. UC is an income based benefit only. Similarly, New style ESA replaces contribution based ESA. When a claimant’s entitlement to those run out, they move to UC.

        KJ

        March 23, 2020 at 3:08 am

      • New style JSA only lasts for six months anyway and then it’s off to Universal Credit… AND ANOTHER £1000!

        Kerching!

        Scrounger

        March 23, 2020 at 7:01 am

  155. So they are just going to leave old-style JSA claimants without the increase ? That is totally out of order !

    Nathan

    March 22, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    • @ Nathan

      They’re leaving people on old JSA to rot.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      • if you think about it they just made every one on jsa ect a £1000 worse off!

        superted

        March 22, 2020 at 7:37 pm

  156. Why the fuss about self-isolation to avoid exponential growth in the Covid-19 epidemic. Answer: Because if every person infects two people every day after 64 days 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 people will have been infected and millions them will be dead. It’s basically identical to the wheat and chessboard problem only instead of grains of wheat it’s Covid-19 infected individuals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem

    Kenzie

    March 22, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    • This is mathematics though. Most people skipped maths at school. How many people know about exponential growth /Inverse exponential growth (the Ex/In button on your calculator)? Same with logarithms etc, Or sine, cosine, tangents. Maths is everything. Maths is beautiful. It unpins everything. If it wasn’t for maths you wouldn’t have a stupid smartphone. Our utter stupidity will be the death of us.

      John Nash

      March 22, 2020 at 7:29 pm

      • Sensible words from the Nobel prizewinning schizophrenic bisexual mathematician who invented Nash equilibrium. I agree. But at least you had a biography written about you and a film made based on that account. Only mathematicians and physicists remember me which really pisses me off.

        Bernhard Riemann

        March 23, 2020 at 6:43 am

      • If it moves it’s biology, if it stinks it’s chemistry, if it doesn’t work it’s physics 😀

        Teacher's Pet

        March 23, 2020 at 7:42 am

    • **It underpins everything

      John Nash

      March 22, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    • There are only about 7.8 billion people on earth. Let’s call it 8 billion = 8,000,000,000 which is 23 times smaller than the largest figure above. In fact every person currently on the planet would be infected in LESS than 27 days if everybody kept infecting two or more uninfected people as is the case now. Keep your eyes peeled and watch the number of the infected soar in the coming days. It was good to be alive though wasn’t it? It’s been quite a ride. I look forward to seeing you again in the next life. Good night and good luck.

      Pollard

      March 23, 2020 at 6:57 am

      • Adieu, my friend, Adieu.

        Touching Cloth

        March 23, 2020 at 8:30 am

  157. Seeing as we’re not going to the job centre for at least 3 months they won’t be able to send us to any providers, so I’m hoping that those parasites go bust.

    Violet

    March 22, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    • Many of them already are on the verge of going bust, since the end of the Work Programme and the collapse of the short-lived Community Work Programme, Interserve have made redundancies and closed offices, and Standguide have closed some offices, the final nail in the coffin was/is Brexit and the end of the EU Social Fund.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 7:27 pm

      • Even if the povo’s do bite the dust, what’s the betting that the DWP find something equally or more nasty to unleash on us dole scum!

        Tigerlily

        March 22, 2020 at 7:39 pm

      • I don’t think there will be any more Schemes in the pipeline for the time being as they cost money and are proved to be ineffective in getting people into work. Besides, they don’t need to as Universal Credit is the ultimate punishment and means of control – seven days a week of unending jobsearch or a Sanction, Hardship as a repayable loan, part time jobs no longer optional and anything earned deducted from Benefits. They’ve got it covered, stitched up, dotted every ‘i’ and crossed every ‘t’. UC is a virtual prison from which there is no escape, unless you don’t mind sleeping on the streets and begging for a living.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 8:00 pm

  158. Tax the rich to fund ‘Universal Basic Income’

    https://welfareweekly.com/tax-the-rich-to-fund-universal-basic-income/

    trev

    March 22, 2020 at 8:21 pm

  159. five years dole scum have been waiting for an increase and what we got was not worth talking about.

    they hate the remaining jsa claimants because we don’t bow down to the work coach, we know the providers only use us and we know to question everything and if it’s not mandatory they can sod off.

    big bird

    March 22, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    • if i am put on uc the only difference will be the name, if no one will employ you then what is the point of a work coach they are useless same as the providers.

      i dont even have a work coach so say and they have not bothered to look at my work search for about 2 months.

      im not going to bother to sign on as will save me 5 quid and if it is not paid then ill hit them with this and get my bonus in the end 😉

      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/compensation-for-poor-service-a-guide-for-dwp-staff

      .

      superted

      March 22, 2020 at 9:16 pm

      • @superted: Yeah but mate if you don’t have any jobsearch done then what ? It’s going to like going in to the jobcentre naked. And suppose they start playing silly buggers about how you could have gone in and searched in the JC itself ? Even though they’ve closed these. And people are not supposed to attend.

        John H.

        March 23, 2020 at 2:22 pm

      • just do the best you can in the past when i have been on extended sick leave i still had to job search and when they phoned every 2 weeks was only asked if i was looking and said yes.

        they did not bother to look at my job search when i went back i might as well have not botherd

        superted

        March 23, 2020 at 2:46 pm

  160. If those bastards think I’m going to sit back and be £1000 pounds worse off they can forget it !!

    JSA Jobseeker

    March 22, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    • Too right ! Equal pay for equal unemployment. #JSAJustice

      James Jobseeker

      March 22, 2020 at 8:46 pm

  161. Coronavirus: McDonald’s to close all UK restaurants
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51999604

    superted

    March 22, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    • They’ve tape across all the tables and seats in there,The GP surgery removed all the seats because of cross infection they said.Shops are giving staff gloves but their nearly empty.

      As for the internet the last week its been hardly loading on a weekday and jobsearch very late at night was possible here on bt.I wouldn’t use that journal anyway.

      ken

      March 23, 2020 at 1:34 am

  162. Library Alert !!
    My local library has posted a closure notice. All branches in the county closed until further notice, to protect staff. Only 2 hrs a day at a couple of smaller branches. No staff available, no internet or printing. Only borrowing books / DVDs from the self-service machines. At your own risk.
    So now what for the jobsearch of JSA claimants who don’t have internet access ?

    Jeff Smith

    March 22, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    • All the libraries in my area have closed too, as of yesterday, but no mention of it in the local rag.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    • what about uc claimants that now can not access there journal as no access to the internet and wont get any updates until they can log in even for the next appointment 3 months later.?

      same with job search if you have no way to apply for jobs then it is not your fault why the hole system is not fit for purpose.

      it is going to crash and burn at this rate the jcp staff will not cope with all the new claims why we all have 3 months off. 😉

      superted

      March 22, 2020 at 11:09 pm

      • Will peoples claims be closed if they don’t access their journals? The system is going to collapse and we are being kept in the dark by this inept shambles of a Government. Neither Boris Johnson nor the DWP have made clear official statements regarding jobsearch requirements and sanctions during this crisis. We haven’t even officially been told not to sign on yet, well I haven’t anyway. My next signing appointment is on 31st March and I have no idea at this point in time whether I am still required to attend, or if I am still required to do jobsearch. It’s a fucking joke. Now is the perfect time to scrap JSA, Universal Credit and Sanctions, and introduce a Universal Basic Income instead, it’s the only viable option, fuck what IDS thinks.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 11:30 pm

  163. It’s completely ridiculous. They haven’t thought this through at all. Claimants who have no internet at home, now have a significant problem. How are they going to do their jobsearch ? And equally, how are they going to be able to show evidence of their job applications ? This will apply both to Universal Credit and JSA claimants. The UC claimants won’t be access their journals, and the JSA claimants won’t be able to use Find A Job , or get printed evidence either.
    They have closed all the cafes etc. where you might have had access to the internet. So WTF ?
    We just all turn up in 3 months with no evidence of jobsearch whatever, and the Work Coaches just smile and say don’t worry about it ?
    I’m getting that sanction feeling…

    Jeff Smith

    March 22, 2020 at 11:50 pm

  164. All the libraries in Cornwall shut today until further notice.

    Ro

    March 23, 2020 at 6:46 am

  165. Why you can’t trust Sky News

    Boris Johnson is attempting to race sweeping new laws on coronavirus through the Commons in a day, as the UK faces the prospect of a total lockdown in the next 24 hours.

    MPs are returning to the Commons after the weekend to debate the government’s Coronavirus Bill in all its stages, before it goes to the House of Lords and becomes law by the end of this week.

    The Commons debate follows a stark warning from the prime minister that the UK is heading towards a lockdown, after appeals to the public to stay indoors were largely ignored during a sunny Mother’s Day.

    Sky Snooze

    March 23, 2020 at 7:35 am

  166. The DWP need to make a clear public statement about what is expected of claimants during this emergency.

    1. Are jobsearch requirements being suspended or reduced for the next 3 months, or not ?

    2. What is the advice for Jobseekers without internet access of any kind ?

    Alan Turner

    March 23, 2020 at 10:55 am

    • Absolutely Alan, it’s a shambles, we’ve been told nothing. I have a signing appointment on 31st March, no idea if I still have to attend or if jobcentre is open, no idea if jobsearch is still required, if sanctions relating to jobsearch have been lifted, unable to do jobsearch at library now, no broadband at home, just got my phone and the monthly data is probably about to run out this week.

      trev

      March 23, 2020 at 11:11 am

      • @trev. They just couldn’t care less mate. The DWP are leaving people hanging on like this. Not knowing if there is going to be trouble later on. You can’t even go in to the Jobcentre to look at the internet.

        Pete

        March 23, 2020 at 12:06 pm

  167. Omnitex Surgical Face Masks With Earloop 3 Ply (CE Marked), Pack of 100

    “Currently unavailable
    We don’t know when or if this item will be back in stock.”

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Omnitex-Surgical-Masks-Earloop-Marked/dp/B005430K8U

    trev

    March 23, 2020 at 11:44 am

  168. 👿 You can run. But you can’t hide. We will find you. And we will KILL you!! 👿

    The Corona Virii

    March 23, 2020 at 12:20 pm

  169. If you think that the coronavirus pandemic is bad for both people and the world economy just wait until man-made unstoppable global warming lays waste to the earth. That’ll put the cat among the pigeons… although apex predators like the big cats will be the first to go… followed by the great apes, our nearest primate relatives… followed by us. We ourselves, homo sapiens, are an endangered species ourselves. And we, unlike all the other animals, are the architects of our own doom.

    Greta T.

    March 23, 2020 at 1:22 pm

  170. Seeing people of all ages out and about yesterday, on Mother’s Day, interacting rather than self-isolating made me wonder if they didn’t deserve what’s coming. Surely it would be good for the race to prevent daft fuckers like that from passing their dumb genes on to future generations by weeding them out now rather than later?

    Toby Young

    March 23, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    • Right on, Toby! Sterilisation and euthanasia should also be practised by the state to prevent the rise of an underclass.

      Professor David Marsland

      March 23, 2020 at 1:29 pm

  171. Equal Pay For JSA !

    James Jobseeker

    March 23, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    • JSA ain’t pay, brother, it’s money for nothing and pay is something that you receive for doing productive work.

      Teddy Bare

      March 23, 2020 at 5:00 pm

      • @ Teddy Bare

        Money for nothing? Ok, but isn’t it money in lieu of the Common land that was seized by the Establishment when our ancestors were evicted and a nation of landless peasants was created? Isn’t it money in recognition of all the hard graft put in by previous generations of our ancestors who worked all their lives for a pittance, upon whose blood, sweat & tears this country became rich? State Benefits aren’t a gift, or an handout, they are a Right.

        trev

        March 23, 2020 at 5:23 pm

      • Dictionary definition of the word “pay”:

        1. give (someone) money that is due for work done, goods received, or a debt incurred.

        JSA isn’t pay but a social security benefit that qualifying citizens are given, gratis, by the state to enable them to support themselves for many reasons, e.g., disability, sickness, pregnancy, old age or for the able-bodied unemployed UNTIL THEY FIND WORK. Now get on your bike you slackers and go find yourselves a job or, if you want to work part-time, get on your unicycle and do likewise!

        Pinky

        March 23, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      • @ Pinky

        Nowadays one job isn’t enough, you’re expected to ride the unicycle with a brush up your arse so you can sweep up as you go along.

        trev

        March 23, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    • @james jobseeker: You tell it James ! Unemployed is unemployed. One rate for all !!

      Zac

      March 23, 2020 at 6:58 pm

  172. DWP faces call to end Universal Credit sanctions and deductions during coronavirus

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/universal-credit-sanctions-deductions-coronavirus-17965073

    superted

    March 23, 2020 at 3:13 pm

  173. Update from the world of work and it isn’t good. I know a lot of our parents have poor English but today some of the kids parents were trying to unload on us had been sent home last week to self isolate! Another woman turned up whose hubby was a delivery driver. She however was at home but still tried to unload her kid. She was sent packing. A few parents turned up at lunch to collect sandwich bags for their free school meals kids.
    The deep cleaning we were expecting to do has been cancelled as pepole are still coming in and out of school. A rota has been set up, those with 1 contract are in once a week for 2 and half hours those with 2 like me are in 2ce a week for 2 n half hours each time. We will however be paid thank God. I’ll keep you updatef

    katrehman

    March 23, 2020 at 4:32 pm

  174. There’s a lockdown on the way… I can feel it in my water… bladder full to bursting…

    Jailer

    March 23, 2020 at 4:58 pm

  175. When you sign on they are putting through the ‘evidence’ for the past fortnight. If they ‘raise a doubt’ they will enquire about ‘evidence’ in the previous fortnight too when that has already ‘gone through’. But it is the fortnight before your next appointment that is really important, the jobcentre will assume that jobseekers will have given up job-searching by then. It is still advisable to keep doing a token ‘job-search’ at least to cover you butt – don’t leave it naked.

    Naked Attraction

    March 23, 2020 at 5:21 pm

  176. No mention of Jobcentres in the Prime Minister’s address to the nation. Do I still have to sign on next Tuesday? None the wiser. Am I still required to do jobsearch to continue receiving my JSA? None the wiser. Will Pay Point shops or Post Offices still be open so I can pay my Water and Council Tax? No idea. Will laundrettes be closed? How do I do my laundry, in the local river?

    trev

    March 23, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    • You would be best advised to keep your prepayment meters topped up as much as you can afford. Not running running to the paypoint every day to top-up with a £1 before your lights go out. That is just stupid in the current situation. Everything seems to be closing down. You can’t even get your hair cut any more. Hair clippers will be going through the roof on Amazon and ebay if they aren’t already.

      Iliod

      March 23, 2020 at 10:52 pm

      • @ Iliod

        I don’t have that type of prepayment meter, I have a coin meter for electricity that takes the OLD pound coins! I have to contact the landlady and she comes round and empties the meter and I buy the coins back off her. Effectively she’s using the old pound coins as tokens as it was cheaper than upgrading the meter. I don’t have Gas. I only need the corner shop newsagents for paying my monthly Council Tax installments and fortnightly Water payments. Apparently newsagents will still be open. Don’t think Laundrettes are though, so won’t be able to wash my clothes properly unless I just wash stuff in the shower, but won’t be able to wash bedding. But I suppose I’ll manage. Some clear advice about JSA and Jobcentres would be welcome however.

        trev

        March 23, 2020 at 11:05 pm

      • Yeah maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, had to look out the hair clippers today. No where open for a cut. It’s a gas maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

        The Hippy Family

        March 23, 2020 at 11:17 pm

  177. No mention either of the massive cuts to the NHS, made by the Tories over the last 10 years, which put us in this position. Where we ended up with the lowest number of Intensive Care hospital beds in Europe. Massive under-staffing in terms of doctors and nurses. A huge shortage of proper protective gear for NHS staff. Once again the result of these brutal economies. Itself an ongoing scandal, which has been furiously denied, then reluctantly admitted. With the government frantically trying to provide better equipment. Too little, too late.
    Not to mention the now abandoned attempt, at so-called ‘herd immunity.’ Which we persisted with, even while scientists from every other country in Europe, were begging us to stop. And take some proper protective action.
    If only that false slogan about spending 350 Million a week on the NHS had been true.

    Jeff Smith

    March 23, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    • ‘Herd immunity’ was a crazy idea. Assuming this Covid-19 is even real it is now apparent that this is a severe respiratory illness; basically a pneumonia-type illness that if it gets a grip will kills you in the most horrendous, protracted way possible. What makes it even deadlier than common or garden viriii that it appears to be able to trick your immune system into overreacting and killing you. There is no cure. A ventilator will only provide palliative care whilst your drown and your lungs burst. A gruesome fate, and ghastly death to be avoided at all costs.

      Boffy

      March 23, 2020 at 11:11 pm

  178. So people are allowed to go to work if “essential”. A bit vague. What about people doing voluntary work at a foodbank?

    trev

    March 23, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    • People have to go to work,yeterday no bus arrived theres normally three an hour and a woman stormed off saying i’m going to be late for work,I think she works at Boots.the local scrap yard has grabber ams visable and just as busy a local warehouse has its doors open.Many people are still at work and a bus company locally has increased the buses back on one route back to normal levels and jobs are still being advertised.

      https://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/people/arriva-bus-changes-take-place-week-2522215

      I think the best thing to do is get on with life and put up with this virus risk,its to easy to get sucked into these statements when life for many people isn’t like including the unemployed.Life does go on,these measures are just the high street and the supermarkets and even Boris caught this.

      https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/warehouse-workers-health-coronavirus/

      ken

      April 1, 2020 at 4:28 am

  179. Tesco cash only this evening “ran out of change” 😉 Had to use damned debit card. Grr. Still money in the cash machines though. Cashless society here we come?

    Sally Shopper

    March 23, 2020 at 10:40 pm

  180. Oops! Tesco debit card only this evening.

    Sally Shopper

    March 23, 2020 at 10:42 pm

  181. I had to make a withdrawal from the cash machines just to make sure that there was something in them. If they had been empty… well.. you wouldn’t need to be David Icke to see a conspiracy theory.

    Sally Shopper

    March 23, 2020 at 10:44 pm

  182. they will say cash is dirty to introduce cashless society. even though most of the shops are dirty.

    big bird

    March 23, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    • A lot of people were queuing outside banks this morning.

      ken

      March 23, 2020 at 11:21 pm

      • What for? Do they think the banks are going to ‘go down’? But if they are getting cash out then it may be no use if the shops switch to debit card only. There is a report of Tesco doing this evening. Best to keep your ear to the ground, ken, you have to try and stay ahead of the game.

        Val

        March 23, 2020 at 11:44 pm

  183. would it be so hard for jobcentre s to send jsa claiments a letter, I’m still going jobcentre Thursday I haven’t been told not to and they can have a work coach tell mee whats going on as I wwon’t take the word of the helpers at the door.

    big bird

    March 23, 2020 at 11:03 pm

  184. MARTIAL LAW

    Donald TRUMP has mentioned he would like to stay in power and Boris JOHNSON has said he would like to curtail the power of parliament.

    Both would love to invoke Martial Law using the CORONAVIRUS threat as a pretext to gain absolute control.

    Anyone considered a threat would be immediately arrested and locked in a guarded military stockade.

    Persons deemed of foreign extraction would be deported………..

    Public demonstrations would not happen as public gatherings would become illegal.

    Rationing would be introduced………

    News would be propaganda only……………….

    Internet activity and social media banned……..

    Travel limited completely………

    Could a NEW WORLD ORDER really come about after a deadly pathogen was released into the atmosphere?

    Marcos managed to stay in power in the Philippines for 17 years after using this cheap trick.

    Julie Hutchison

    March 23, 2020 at 11:39 pm

  185. Breaking…

    Boris Johnson has announced new UK lockdown measures to stem the spread of coronavirus – with police stepping in to deal with those breaking the rules.

    Corana Virus News Update Premium Subscription Service

    March 24, 2020 at 12:01 am

  186. Breaking…

    UK Lockdown

    Mr Johnson said police will act to stop any gatherings larger than two (not including members of the same household) by handing out fines and dispersing gatherings.

    Shops that don’t sell food or other essential items will close. This includes cloithes shops and those selling electrical items.

    Corana Virus News Update Premium Subscription Service

    March 24, 2020 at 12:04 am

    • Still no mention of whether jsa claimants still have to sign on or not.

      joe jobseeker

      March 24, 2020 at 12:12 am

  187. UK lockdown but borders still wide open. You couldn’t make it you.

    Police State UK

    March 24, 2020 at 12:22 am

    • If the Governments had bothered themselves to put stringent checks in place at airports a few months ago, we might not be in this situation right now.
      It’s almost as if they were just waiting for it to come to their own countries. Itching for it to make its way. I am suspicious of these extreme measures.
      Take precautions, yes, but to take it this far…. I’m not so sure.

      Keane

      March 24, 2020 at 2:52 am

  188. London is the epicentre of coronavirus in the UK, yet tomorrow, umpteen flights are leaving the capital’s airports for other cities in the UK, including almost 30 to Ipswich. These flights must be stopped immediately.

    East Anglia

    March 24, 2020 at 3:02 am

  189. So with Jobcentres closed, libraries closed, non-essential shops closed and having been told only to go out for medical reasons or to shop for essentials like food and drink, or for exercise alone or with members of your family, or to work preferably on foot or by car and not by public transport, HOW THE HELL CAN ANY OF US HONOUR OUR “ACTIVELY SEEKING WORK” OBLIGATION? And how could any of us possibly be sanctioned for not doing so? While the Covid-19 epidemic rages every Claimant Commitment is rendered null and void because of self-isolating strictures placed on people by the government which are now enforceable by the police? In which case: Why not announce that sanctioning of claimants for doing inadequate jobsearch during the epidemic has been suspended and put people’s minds at rest.

    If the Jobcentre waives its obligation to claimants surely the demands that the Jobcentre places claimants should also be dispensed with for the duration of the coronavirus panic until normality returns to society?

    Ro

    March 24, 2020 at 6:46 am

    • @Ro – Trouble is you know how sneaky they are. No-one has actually said that the JSA claimants can stand down their jobsearch. People are just assuming they can.

      Garry

      March 24, 2020 at 12:42 pm

      • @ Garry

        That’s why we need clarity. They should make an announcement and also write to every claimant individually spelling out the situation regarding signing on, jobsearch requirements, and Sanctions, so we know where we stand. What’s Therese Coffey doing, sitting on her fat arse?

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm

      • Everybody knows that no one can possibly be able to do a proper jobsearch during a global pandemic. Isn’t it about time that the DWP owned this truth and admitted it to the country? Not to do so and try to make people do the impossible is mean and sly behaviour. And does anybody really think that the DWP would like articles appearing in the papers about people being sanctioned because they failed to complete 35 hours of jobsearch when most businesses are closed, movement restricted, and the country locked down by order of the government? Of course not.

        Ro

        March 24, 2020 at 1:39 pm

  190. The jokecentre (big clue in the name 😉 ) will just come out with stupid shit like “It is not like shop windows are locked down. Plenty of hidden vacancies out there. Couldn’t you have sneaked out under cover of darkness to avoid the army/police? Sniper fire is easy to avoid. Everyone in this office has had to avoid sniper fire. A bullet or two is not going to do you any harm. Anyway, a bullet up the backside would build momentum in your job search. This is going to a decision maker.”

    nev

    March 24, 2020 at 8:45 am

  191. David Icke must think all his Christmases have come at once 😀

    Jacqui

    March 24, 2020 at 8:47 am

  192. Strictly speaking I will be breaking the law this afternoon when I leave the house and walk 5 minutes to work. As a school cleaner. Cleaners aren’t on the list of key jobs even though no company school or business could function without us! Just as well I have no respect for society lol….. Though that doesn’t mean I’m going to flout the rules. My life won’t b much different. .all I do is go to work rhe shops and the doctors. Not as if I can afford outings lol….

    katrehman

    March 24, 2020 at 11:03 am

  193. want to let everyone know about a new tactic they just started yesterday. They’re going to be testing millions of people daily who have no symptoms, they’re going to be doing this in every country, and they are going to “find” a high rate of “infection” and all of these people will be placed in quarantine. They already started this tactic in the US. Remember, they have already psychologically spiked everyone to believe this nonsense with all of their fear porn about people being infected for 2 weeks and spreading it to other people before symptoms begin. They’re going to ramp up the daily testing of non-symptom people until they test the entire population with these fake tests. They want us all sitting in our homes, afraid to go out, so they can go door to door administering these tests, and they’re going to be mandatory.

    David Icke is going to be on Jimmy Church tomorrow night. I’m tuning in to see what he has to say about this scam. It’s really scary that the people who listen to Jimmy Church, which is a show about conspiracy, so many of them have fallen for this fraud and believe what the news media is spewing out. The number of people who actually get what’s going on is very small this time. Everyone else is being made complete fools.

    funister

    March 24, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    • @ funister

      *Rolls eyes*

      It’s a Global Pandemic not a Global Conspiracy you plonker. David Icke is a fearmongering crank.

      trev

      March 24, 2020 at 1:02 pm

      • Violet

        March 24, 2020 at 4:30 pm

      • Well if it results in a transformation of the economic system then that’s a good thing isn’t it? It may lead to a redistribution of wealth, and a fairer more equal world, along with a greater awareness of environmental and ecological concerns. It doesn’t mean we’re all going to be killed or incarcerated in concentration camps.

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 4:41 pm

      • @trev, I see David Icke is trying to portray the coronavirus as some sort of secret conspiracy to turn the whole world into a Chinese-style surveillance state. Is it not more likely that it is just a virus that escaped from the livestock market in Wuhan. And that may have originally originated in a nearby laboratory ? Rather than an attempt by a secret network to achieve world domination ?

        James Moreton

        March 24, 2020 at 7:07 pm

  194. Good to know that Wetherspoons are looking after their staff at this difficult time.

    John H.

    March 24, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    • @John H – Thanks Boss, I’m off to Tesco ! Don’t worry about my wages.

      Spooner

      March 24, 2020 at 5:59 pm

  195. be careful everyone, police are patrolling the back streets of London.

    they just drove up to a pensioner minding her own business going for a walk and they have put her in the back of there car. God knows where they are taking her.

    bid bird

    March 24, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    • you’re ‘aving a laff like mate, innit?

      londoner

      March 24, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      • Lawd above! N’er mind. If the Peelers are abroad the rookeries and alleys Spring Heeled Jack can’t get up to no mischief and me chances ov purchasin’ da favaaahrs ov a nice little brass are be’er, iinnit?

        Bow Belles

        March 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm

  196. The second-rate treatment of Jobseeker’s Allowance is a deliberate snub by the DWP. Targeted against the new ‘enemy within’. Reluctant JSA claimants, who can’t or won’t transfer voluntarily to Universal Credit.
    Who won’t play the game, and buy in to the wonder of zero-hours work, and the 35 Hour Jobsearch.

    Jeff Smith

    March 24, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    • And how many people have died over the last 10 years as a result of the Welfare reforms, 10,000? 50,000? 100,000? They didn’t convene a COBRA meeting about that did they? They denied it and laughed. And now even a global pandemic is insufficient grounds to pause the Class War.

      trev

      March 24, 2020 at 2:28 pm

  197. I contacted the Government via Gov Digital Service and specifically asked about the situation relating to Jobcentres and JSA during this health crisis. I said that all info so far was about Universal Credit but nothing about JSA. I asked about jobsearch requirements, sanctions, and signing appointments. I asked if payments would be made automatically without need for a signature. This is the reply I got:

    Thank you for contacting GOV.UK.

    Current guidance on coronavirus and claiming benefits:

    https://www.understandinguniversalcredit.gov.uk/coronavirus/

    The service is managed by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) so you’ll need to contact your local Jobcentre Plus with any further questions you have:

    http://los.direct.gov.uk

    Other contact details for Jobcentre Plus are listed on this page:

    https://www.gov.uk/contact-jobcentre-plus

    If you’re unable to phone, contact a voluntary organisation (e.g. Citizens Advice) in your area or get a friend or family member to call on your behalf:

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/

    Regards,

    Ola A
    GDS User Support Lead
    Government Digital Service (GDS)
    GOV.UK |GOV.UK Verify

    Completely fobbed off yet again. They totally ignored my questions. It’s like getting blood out of a stone.

    trev

    March 24, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    • well went past the jcp and it was closed with a notice on all the windows.

      superted

      March 24, 2020 at 3:56 pm

      • I take it from that the Jobcentres are closed then? Nice of them to tell us. What happens now? How long are they closed for? Will JSA be paid automatically without need for a signature? Are we still expected to do jobsearch in the meantime? If so, how? Have Sanctions been suspended? Why no info available? Why no letters sent out?

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 4:11 pm

      • I imagine that the DWP hopes that people will be so scared of sanctions that they will keep a few applications going anyway. Just to be on the safe side, A good idea if you can do it. But what about all the many people without internet access ? How are they going to jobsearch ? And also how are they going to have anything in writing to prove it ?

        Susan

        March 24, 2020 at 4:20 pm

      • Those smart-arsed, snivelling worms of DWP stupidity. Those utter, filthy, vile, cretinous wretches that crawl through the dark passages of that labyrinth of misery, Caxton House. Keeping to the shadows to hide their guilty faces in the darkness. A miserable race of mutant acolytes, worshipping their perverted benefit system, and driven by cruelty and spite.

        Caleb

        March 24, 2020 at 4:38 pm

      • Caleb. Don’t beat around the bush, mate, just say what you really mean.

        Plain Englishman

        March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • @trev – As @Jeff Smith says above, it’s quite deliberate, and this proves it. I agree with Jeff, JSA and other legacy claimants are not popular with the DWP. There is a sense of some claimants being stubborn about Universal Credit. The DWP would like to just drag everyone straight onto UC, but they simply can’t. They don’t have the administrative or system capacity. And the mass applications now for UC from the coronovirus crisis, will push the possible date for mandatory migration of the remaining legacy claimants, even further into the future.

      Alan Turner

      March 24, 2020 at 4:14 pm

      • It’s a gross dereliction of duty by the Government and the DWP that no announcements have been made and no information made available specific to existing JSA claims. They have made it perfectly clear that JSA claimants are of no importance to them and are the shit beneath their feet. A typical shabby Tory trick.

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 4:30 pm

  198. @superted
    what did the jobcentre window say?

    big bird

    March 24, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    • dont know only went past in the car but it is not open

      superted

      March 24, 2020 at 5:13 pm

    • Can confirm, drove past local jobcentre late on Sunday evening and it was closed.

      Range Rover

      March 24, 2020 at 5:35 pm

  199. Can you confirm it was closed on Saturday night?

    billyboyne

    March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • Think so. Was taking some friends to the airport on Saturday evening. Heading out on a late winter/early spring skiing holiday in the Italian Alps. Lucky them! The Jobcentre looked more creepy and sinister than usual, if that is even possible. Silent, grim and eerie expect for a dim light on in one of the upper floor windows if that is any use to you.

      Range Rover

      March 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm

      • Thanks for the confirmation. Good luck on your Italian skiing trip. If you happen to see M. Salvini tell him to keep up the good work against those pesky globalists.

        billyboyne

        March 24, 2020 at 7:04 pm

  200. TV Licencing ‘enforcers’ sent out despite coronavirus outbreak

    TVL ‘enforcers’ have been banging on doors with increasing frequency despite the coronavirus ‘lock down’

    Sybil

    March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

  201. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covid_19_21#incoming-1551223
    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    Please disclose the information, guidance and policy provided to your Jobcentre staff, including Work Coaches, with regards claimants, new and existing UC + JSA (new style) + ESA (new style) claims , conditionality, work related activity and benefit sanctions related to Covid 19/Coronavirus from the period January 1st 2020 to date.

    Yours faithfully,

    Frank Zola

    superted

    March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • @superted , He only asks about New Style JSA ? What about all the ‘old style’ legacy JSA ?

      Rob

      March 24, 2020 at 8:56 pm

      • it is the same thing only you have had to been employed for 2 years to claim it, it really does not make any sense as new claims for any jsa has been closed for years now and now it is back all of a sudden i guess it is there back up system as uc is going to crash and burn at this rate as it dont work and they dont have the staff numbers to cope with it atm its a fkn joke tbh.

        but if you do claim this you will only get £73.10 a week but if you claim uc you will get £93.10 per week for 1 year.

        superted

        March 24, 2020 at 9:06 pm

      • @Rob – New Style JSA is still different, from old-style JSA. Basically it’s a short-run 6 month claim based on contributions. The conditions are stricter than old-style JSA, and you have to do zero-hour or part-time work. But there is no 35 Hour jobsearch. That remains only for Universal Credit.So you are correct. The question would have been better put to include old-style JSA specifically.

        Simon

        March 25, 2020 at 2:49 pm

  202. This is on rightsnet “Public access to jobcentres to be restricted, with 10,000 staff moved to focus on processing new claims”

    billyboyne

    March 24, 2020 at 5:45 pm

  203. Found this hidden on a social landlords site: Coronavirus. Will my benefits be affected? Mandatory work search and work availability requirements will no longer apply.

    Stener

    March 24, 2020 at 5:54 pm

  204. Then it gives a link the gov site that says this: “claimants who are staying at home as a result of coronavirus will have their mandatory work search and work availability requirements removed to account for a period of sickness”

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-support-for-employees-benefit-claimants-and-businesses

    Stener

    March 24, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    • @stener: Yes but this is just for people who are already diagnosed with Coronavirus. And who have notified the DWP of their infection. And will have documentation to prove this. People who have been personally affected by the virus. In these cases the DWP will make an individual arrangement with claimants, to ‘remove the worksearch and work availability requirements.’
      This doesn’t cover the case of a healthy claimant who is not infected, but is just staying indoors on government instructions. They are not suffering from the effects of the virus, and have not arranged any official reduction in their worksearch or availability. So what do they do ?

      Alan Turner

      March 24, 2020 at 6:56 pm

      • tbh i am still getting plenty of jobs coming in to apply for via email but some dont have this option so are screwed if they no internet at home.

        normally when you are on extended sick leave you are still required to job search, which is also totally pointless but there you go.

        work coaches can turn off the job search part of the cc and is done on a case by case circumstances
        imo they will all be told to do just that for the next 3 months but i am still going to carry on with mine even tho it is now totally pointless as dont even look at it anymore.

        superted

        March 24, 2020 at 7:22 pm

      • @superted

        Same here. I’m still going through the motions with my job search. Like you say: totally pointless but I bet once this is all over, they’ll be some jumped up little roach who’ll demand to see what you’ve been doing during all this. You know the type. Eighty years ago, they’d of been making sure the cattle trucks to Auschwitz were running on time.

        jj joop

        March 25, 2020 at 7:12 am

  205. Coronavirus: ‘How is £94 a week going to pay anyone’s bills?’

    “Without the mortgage, my essential bills come to £948 a month,” she said. “£94.25 a week [the Universal Credit payment] – how is that going to pay anybody’s bills?”

    i get £73.10 per week same as every one else and still have to pay the bills and you want even more pmsl.

    superted

    March 24, 2020 at 8:54 pm

  206. Legacy JSA, No Claiming Without Equal Pay ! #EqualPayJSA

    Darren

    March 24, 2020 at 8:58 pm

  207. I’m going up to the Jobcentre and when will we be back? Theres been no post and the local co-op is out of food and now their talking about cabin fever.Its like the world has ended.

    ken

    March 24, 2020 at 11:53 pm

  208. Coronavirus: The newly jobless struggle to claim benefits

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52028644

    and just heard on the news it is up to 500000 making new claims dwp in chaos pmsl

    superted

    March 25, 2020 at 11:59 am

  209. Still no mention of JSA, no specific information or instructions for existing JSA claimants:

    https://welfareweekly.com/benefit-assessments-suspended-for-three-months-while-new-claimants-told-to-stay-away-from-jobcentres/

    trev

    March 25, 2020 at 12:06 pm

  210. Does anyone know what if any rights a a Roumanian agency worker who works sorting recycling and has been in the country just 6 months has if laid off? Can he claim anything at all? Thanks if u can help x

    katrehman

    March 25, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    • I don’t know about that Kat, I suspect his Rights would be few but I would direct him to the CAB, they’ll be able to advise and in the meantime will refer him to the foodbank.

      trev

      March 25, 2020 at 2:00 pm

  211. well bj just said on pmq that 4 million will get 1000 more per year but there are just over 2m on uc atm and 250k on jsa ect.

    has any been paid there jsa and got the extra 20 per week?

    superted

    March 25, 2020 at 12:42 pm

  212. Prince Charles tests positive for covid – 19.

    Experts indicated that Charles would be susceptible as his big ears would collect any airborne virus particles from 20 miles away.

    Violet

    March 25, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    • Hahaha of course it has… This is either to push the crow flu hoax onto the sheeple a bit more or hopefully the dirty paedo has been arrested along with its deep state cronies and is awaiting it’s fate!

      Tigerlily

      March 25, 2020 at 4:56 pm

      • @ Tigerlily

        I don’t think you have any grounds for calling HRH The Prince of Wales a “dirty paedo”, that is a serious allegation, one which is surely unwarranted. You will find out that the global pandemic is not a hoax when Millions die in the USA due to Trump’s gross incompetence.

        trev

        March 25, 2020 at 5:19 pm

  213. I haven’t been out of the house all week, staying indoors as instructed, but I just nipped out to the corner shop for a bottle of milk and it’s like a ghost town out there, pretty eerie, noticeably less traffic and the streets are deserted, and this is normally a busy bustling neighbourhood. But from watching daytime Freeview tv all week it seems there is a disproportionate amount of serial killers in Alaska, so make of that what you will.

    trev

    March 25, 2020 at 1:55 pm

    • You can still go out once a day but only for essential shopping for yourself or a vulnerable person who can’t go out, or for exercise like walking or a jog around the block, you don’t have to make yourself a prisoner trev.

      Violet

      March 25, 2020 at 3:10 pm

      • I’m saving myself for tomorrow and Friday when I’ll be working at the foodbank, which is exercise in itself, and is a two mile walk each way. During the week I normally walk to the library in town to do jobsearch but it’s closed now, and I go shopping, but at moment have little money left and don’t really need anything from the shops. So I’m sat on my arse watching daytime tv, drinking inordinate amounts of coffee and smoking roll-ups…what a life!

        trev

        March 25, 2020 at 3:28 pm

      • I went out to try to get a loaf of bread and was stopped by the police and got asked where I was going and why! I’ve never had my collar felt before but at least I wasn’t asked to produced identification, which is just as well as I had none on me. In fact I’ve got no photo ID at all! No passport and no photocard driving license!

        Chicky Davies

        March 25, 2020 at 4:34 pm

      • That is shocking. Did they ask you you’re name and address? Take details down so that they can add it to their database. Did they ask you when you were last out? When you last bought a loaf of bread? It is surprising that they aren’t searching the homes of suspected hoarders/panic buyers? And the supermarkets are trying to train us into going contactless. They are going to spin this coronahoax out as long as they can get away with.

        When is Coates going to put up a new post? COATES? Are you receiving? Or is this blog on lock down? These comment strewn pages are heavy to load. If no new pasta are added this page will turn into the ‘Simon Chapman’ page on Johnny Void with over 5,000 comments.

        Kriennny

        March 25, 2020 at 5:46 pm

      • @ Kriennny

        “They are going to spin this coronahoax out as long as they can get away with”

        Hoax? What kind of paranoid moron are you? It’s not a fucking hoax, people are dying worldwide. FFS lay off the weed!

        trev

        March 25, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    • Oh I forgot Trev… Charlie wanker likes taking it up the rear-end as well!

      Tigerlily

      March 25, 2020 at 5:56 pm

  214. The laundrettes are still open. What’s your excuse?

    billyboyne

    March 25, 2020 at 2:44 pm

  215. As expected, the DWP are now sinking under the sheer number of Universal Credit claims:

    ‘The Department for Work and Pensions said on Wednesday 477,000 people had applied for the benefit in the past nine days and they were redeploying thousands of civil servants to help process the claims.
    Thérèse Coffey MP, the work pensions secretary, said: “In the last nine days we’ve processed nearly half a million claims.’ – Guardian

    Unfortunately, this will show a large number of people the harsh reality of the benefit system.
    The difficulty of making an online application. The need for advance payments because of the 5 week wait.
    It’s one thing to vote for these things, it’s another thing to have to experience them.

    Jeff Smith

    March 25, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    • There’s never been a better time to scrap UC, JSA, and Working Tax Credits, and introduce an Unconditional Basic Income instead. It’ll be a miracle if the system can cope with this amount of pressure, it’s normally pretty dysfunctional as it is.

      trev

      March 25, 2020 at 3:15 pm

      • @trev – ‘SNP MP Chris Stephens pointed out that some of the new Universal Credit claimants were then facing huge online queues to verify their claims, with some told they were 111,000th in a queue.’

        111,000 in a queue ? Well I hope they have plenty of patience. And this is just to start the claim, never mind the verification, before they can even begin to apply for an advance .

        Pete

        March 25, 2020 at 3:53 pm

      • The system isn’t coping, trev, not by a long chalk. No way, no how. After what I went through to get UC during a “normal” period I pity the poor souls trying to get blood out of that stone during a viral epidemic.

        Jaswinder

        March 25, 2020 at 4:29 pm

  216. just got a phone call from my work coach, she sid my siging on appointment has been cancelled for the foreseeable future. I asked if it was for 12 weeks, the wc said don’t worry about it your money will go through as normal and you will be contacted for an appointment in due course. The work coach also said keep job searching.

    big bird

    March 25, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  217. Therese Coffey has said there are job opportunities in supermarkets and fruit-picking. So that’s all right then. Are cigar shops still open during this crisis ?

    Tom Sutton

    March 25, 2020 at 3:56 pm

  218. I just got an email from someone at my Jobcentre:

    “All appointments at the job centre are suspended until further notice.

    All benefits will be sent out automatically.

    If you have any change of circumstances please e mail us on XXXXXXX

    We will be in contact when we have more information.

    Take care of yourself and keep safe”

    trev

    March 25, 2020 at 4:13 pm

  219. So are all the new claimants for Universal Credit going to the Jobcentre for an interview while completing the application process. (I had two interviews.) And for the ones without an acceptable digital identity having to bring documents and such like to prove who they are? And will they all have to wait five weeks without income until they get their first payment? And will they have to do 35 hours of jobseeking a week to carry on receiving what they get, if they get it at some point?

    I’ve always had trouble keeping up my jobsearch living in a rural county with jobs often scattered far and wide and transport links poor to non-existent. Having to stay at home all day, with the libraries and Jobcentres closed; unable to go out to visit potential employers, or get access to newspapers, or to just walk through the town to check to see if anything has been casually advertised, or to talk to people to see if they know if anybody is hiring has reduced my activities basically to going online and checking the job-boards. Apart for supermarkets I haven’t seen any new vacancies posted since the week end close enough to my home to get to. Also, because I can’t possibly spend 35 hours a week jobseeking at the best of times, because there has never been enough work available to enable me to do that, I opted to do 16 hours of voluntary work every week for my town’s council’s parks and gardens department as the only way to have enough job related activity every week to fill the dead air. My volunteering has had the mockers put on it now and, hand on heart, I have no bloody idea at all how to keep up with the things I agreed to on my claimant commitment during the Covid-19 epidemic not because I am unwilling but because with everything locked down it is literally impossible.

    Still at least now the country will have a chance to see and hopefully understand how inadequate and bloody awful Universal Credit is in practice. If the only good thing to emerge from the coronavirus disaster in that UC is finally brought into the daylight for all to see at least that will be something.

    Martin Wright

    March 25, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    • There are still loads of “jobs” on the system. Can’t you just apply for anything so they can’t claim you weren’t “actively seeking employment”. It’s not as if they are going to have time to check through three months plus of jobsearch with over a million new claimants to deal with.

      bob

      March 25, 2020 at 8:21 pm

  220. As I write these words no fewer than 612 comments have been added to this page. Has the Ipsissimus of Ipswitch been swallowed by the abyss à la Johnny Void? Or taken the long dark journey prematurely as a victim of Covid-19? Will no heroic servant of the holy flame step forth rally the forces of the light to stand against the night and Qlippothic forces of nescience and darkness?

    Bleys

    March 25, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    • A wise man hears one word and understands two.

      Zephirus

      March 25, 2020 at 5:19 pm

      • Beneath the ever seeing eye of the Supreme Architect of the Universe so mote it be.

        Raymond Lully

        March 25, 2020 at 6:21 pm

      • Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. – George Bernard Shaw

        Justinus

        March 25, 2020 at 7:59 pm

      • In the beginning doth the Magus speak Truth, and send forth Illusion and Falsehood to enslave the soul. Yet therein is the Mystery of Redemption.

        Anselm

        March 26, 2020 at 3:46 pm

  221. A lot of readers on the Daily Mail website are now whinging in the comments section about how long they have been on the phone trying to make a claim and how they are finding it so hard to get verified. Funny, I was led to believe claiming benefits was a breeze and you only had to put your head ’round the door to receive a huge stack of free cash!

    bob

    March 25, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    • @bob – A sad awakening for these people. many of whom bought into the anti-benefits rhetoric of the last 10 years.

      Malcom Green

      March 25, 2020 at 8:01 pm

  222. 500,000 Universal Credit new claims in 15 hours. The system will crash because it can’t cope. It couldn’t even cope before the new self employed policy was mentioned. The Flagship Welfare Reform Universal Credit has sunk that it will never recover. Bye bye Universal Credit.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2020 at 8:22 pm

  223. Let us self isolate the genocide of the disabled for the past 10 years with State Sponsored Murders & Human Rights Breeches.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    • Boris Johnson will be at lest charged with War Crimes.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      March 25, 2020 at 8:27 pm

  224. The Tory Policy to Kill Off The Homeless is working well !!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2020 at 8:28 pm

  225. well my jsa was paid in but was the normal rate

    superted

    March 26, 2020 at 10:16 am

  226. Dog-shit hanging from a branch,
    It didn’t get there just by chance,
    Some dirty bastard put it there,
    For all to see, he didn’t care.
    And now it hangs there on the tree,
    Two fingers up to you and me.

    Random Poet

    March 26, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    • Ha! Ha! Another classic @random. True as well, how many of those plastic bags are around.

      Gavin

      March 26, 2020 at 10:44 pm

  227. They still expect people on Universal Credit who get sick and go to hospital to register a change of circumstances ? This will stop the claim instantly.

    Colin Claimant

    March 26, 2020 at 1:14 pm

  228. ‘First-time claimants have described calling the service between 80 and 100 times to no avail. The Guardian has been trying over the last two days, and has been unable to get through. At one stage yesterday there were queues of 145,000 people waiting to log on to the website, where all claims must start.’

    A total disaster just waiting to happen. When are these people going to get any actual money ?

    Jeff Smith

    March 26, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    • As you say Jeff, it’s a disaster waiting to happen, it’s doomed to fail, the system will collapse and they’ll be forced to introduce some form of Basic Income. At least now the Tory-voting Joe Public are gaining firsthand experience of the almighty shit-storm that is Universal Credit. Iain Duncan Smith is Yesterday’s Man, his ego-driven vanity project is a fantasy that bears no relevance to the 21st Century, he and his ilk have had their day, their petty-minded vindictive and punitive notions of the deserving poor can be relegated to history as Society moves forward together with a new outlook and a equitable redistribution of wealth that will liberate so much hidden potential as we enter the New Age. That was probably the reason for this virus, to move Humanity onward and upward to greater things. There is a fly-by of a huge asteroid soon too as further confirmation.

      trev

      March 26, 2020 at 1:51 pm

  229. Yes trev we are now entering a new age, the age of Aquarius aka (nwo).

    Violet

    March 26, 2020 at 2:04 pm

  230. Huge embarrassment for the DWP. Their precious Universal Credit system in tatters. Even using DWP staff as forced labour won’t solve this.

    Jack Reid

    March 26, 2020 at 2:08 pm

  231. Has anybody received any mail since Monday? It seems to have stopped altogether where I live.

    Ro

    March 26, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    • still delivering round here

      superted

      March 26, 2020 at 3:54 pm

      • There was no post here for two days and its a different postperson on Thursday.

        ken

        March 27, 2020 at 3:49 am

  232. Received mail today, love. Postman Pat very much alive and kicking.

    Val

    March 26, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    • Got handed a parcel today from the postman. Never seen him before. And the regular one seems to have disappeared without trace. Are the regulars all in ‘self-isolation’ and they are hiring from the jobcentre to provide cover in these dangerous times? Should have paid more attention to the staff in Home Bargains, B&M etc. too. Bet they are all on jobcentre ‘work experience’ at the moment.

      Bev

      March 27, 2020 at 4:04 pm

  233. well i got a funny feeling that ppl trying to claim benefits that has been working long enough will be directed to claim new style jsa instead of uc.

    it will end after 182 days and you will only get £73.10 per week.

    so even tho this benefit was for tax based contributions that you paid in to the system you wont get the extra 20 quid on uc if you have never paid in to the system at all.

    it makes no sense at all to me imo there is going to be a lot of pissed of ppl when they check there bank accounts and when the jcp offices open back up.

    i still have not received any letter from the dwp and i bet the next one i will get will be for my next appointment.

    superted

    March 26, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    • They said they could ring or receive a letter in about four/six weeks.I’ll take down the number on the door passing by again,there was someone else trying to enter on Thursday too.It might be best phone the Jsa 0800 line the day before a signing day for an update.

      In a crisis like this the last place is direct somone to UC.Most people would be trying to hold onto their job during this.

      Click to access CUC_1808_2017-00.pdf

      ken

      March 27, 2020 at 4:15 am

  234. Amazing really, all these outraged people protesting that they can’t be expected to live on £94 a week.
    The benefits system , what’s left of it, is going to be a shock for them. And that’s before they see what it means to have a ‘Claimant Commitment’ and all the rest of it.

    Tom Sutton

    March 26, 2020 at 10:48 pm

  235. An Amazon warehouse employee has described his workplace as a “living hell” as staff work around the clock to deliver goods to homes trapped in lockdown.
    The staff member, who wishes to remain anonymous, told Mirror Money he is worried about the working conditions amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

    Says a lot for it doesn’t it ?

    Andy J.

    March 26, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    • Andy J I’m a Union rep and one of my members contacted me to See if I could give any advice for her daughter (not my member). Daughter is single parent with 3 kids in private rented working 3 days a week at a waste company and had been sacked for self isolating. So many people are coming to me for advice..half aren’t even members but what can you do? I can’t turn my back. Stay safe all

      katrehman

      March 28, 2020 at 11:34 am

    • American companies arn’t good places to work.if anyone speaks out they are targetted and will end up out on their ear.

      Amazon is cracking down on protesters and organizing, workers say

      At least six workers who have participated in protests or advocated for safer conditions have been fired during the pandemic

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/05/amazon-protests-union-organizing-cracking-down-workers

      ken

      May 6, 2020 at 6:01 pm

  236. Scrapped from Twitter:

    Can someone from the DWP advise people on Job Seekers Allowance who have to sign on every two weeks, as the information is not very clear?….

    I was told they will phone you and you do not have to go in and physically sign on for the foreseeable

    What if you don’t have a ‘phone? Are the DWP going to be posting out ‘phones? 😀 Wouldn’t put it past the bastards 😀

    Ring

    March 27, 2020 at 8:45 am

  237. I know that I shall meet my fate
    Somewhere among the clouds above;
    Those that I fight I do not hate,
    Those that I guard I do not love;
    My country is Kiltartan Cross,
    My countrymen Kiltartan’s poor,
    No likely end could bring them loss
    Or leave them happier than before.
    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
    Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
    A lonely impulse of delight
    Drove to this tumult in the clouds;
    I balanced all, brought all to mind,
    The years to come seemed waste of breath,
    A waste of breath the years behind
    In balance with this life, this death.

    Another Random Poet

    March 27, 2020 at 8:53 am

  238. Also on Twitter:

    Why have I not received my job seekers today

    Ring

    March 27, 2020 at 9:06 am

  239. Benefit sanctions ‘should not apply’ during coronavirus crisis, DWP says

    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/26/benefit-sanctions-not-apply-coronavirus-crisis-dwp-says-12463478/?ito=cbshare

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

    superted

    March 27, 2020 at 11:43 am

    • @superted – Good to hear. But I would still advise anyone who can, and has internet access, to keep a few applications going in just to be on the safe side. You can’t trust the DWP.

      Tom Sutton

      March 27, 2020 at 12:32 pm

  240. Boris Johnson tests positive for covid – 19.

    The ‘disease’ finally has a real poster boy – watch BoJo’s journey through the health scare live streamed from #10.

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 12:28 pm

  241. I notice there is precious little being said about the Chinese wildlife markets ? The apparent source of the Covid-19 infections. Will they now commit to closing these awful places before there is another outbreak of disease ?

    Alan Turner

    March 27, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    • The Chinese economy is picking up while the west is in tatters… Strange that don’t you think.

      Violet

      March 27, 2020 at 1:00 pm

  242. Latest guys you couldn’t make this up. Our esteemed leader Boris Johnson (excuse the sarcasm lol) has tested positive for coronavirus. It’s his pregnant girlfriend I feel sorry for. .

    katrehman

    March 27, 2020 at 12:36 pm

  243. Has he f*ck got the crowflu, it’s odd that none of the politicians, celebrities, actors, sportstars have been hospitalised or snuffed it from crow 19… all part of the theatre to fool the masses!

    Tigerlily

    March 27, 2020 at 12:49 pm

  244. I’m smelling a rat here aren’t you.

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    • on average 1400 die every day in the uk and 578 dead from cv in weeks, it dont add up to what they are doing as this is got to cost 500 billion at this rate it is a strain of the flu not the black death and bodys pilling up on street corners. tax rates will be going up thats a sure fact.

      superted

      March 27, 2020 at 1:13 pm

      • An evil entity or entities are doing their damnedest to trash the markets for sure. Trillions of dollars have been pumped into them but it keeps getting sucked out and the stricken markets are pulled back underwater. The Fed has said it will ‘do what it takes’ to save them. Be interesting to see if the bounce back or if this is really ‘game over’ and a New World Order.

        George Soreass

        March 27, 2020 at 4:16 pm

      • its like there using a nuke to win a fist fight its MADness

        superted

        March 27, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    • Yes Violet and a whole load of bullshit!

      Tigerlily

      March 27, 2020 at 1:42 pm

      • @ Tigerlily

        You’re a raving lunatic. You belong in a padded cell you sad fuck, and why Andrew Coates allows your shit on this site is beyond me.

        KJ

        March 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    • Nope. There’s only one conspiracy theorist that posts on this site under various monikers. You.

      Piers

      March 27, 2020 at 8:29 pm

      • Nope, I don’t post under various names, don’t need to, I just say it how it is, baaaaaaaaaa 🐏🐑

        Tigerlily

        March 28, 2020 at 1:27 pm

  245. BoJo has a cold.

    That’s so cute BoJo has a runny nose.

    The more celebrities get this thing and blow their noses publicly the faster we can get back to normal.

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 1:16 pm

  246. There was no virus in China, it’s all been staged to bring down the west, they were given all our manufacturing jobs years ago to leave the west with mass unemployment, the Chinese work model and social credit system is coming here!

    Tigerlily

    March 27, 2020 at 2:17 pm

  247. … And the Social Credit System that is being rolled out in China will be a Universal Basic Income that millions in the west will have to live on after the global economy has been trashed!

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 2:23 pm

  248. Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm

    • @You forgot the Reptilian Aliens from the Alpha Draconis star system. Don’t they have any say in this ?

      Daedalus

      March 27, 2020 at 3:15 pm

      • It’s probably the greys that are behind it… you know… the ones that probe you anally. Pretty impolite behaviour from an advanced species if you ask me. Before inserting things into your bodily orifices and probing you you’d think that they’d have the courtesy to take you out for a meal or a drink first wouldn’t you?

        Icarus

        March 27, 2020 at 8:26 pm

      • Can humans probe grey aliens? If “yes” then I wouldn’t say no.

        https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.7ai3kWlw_YyWpgtsXEEz1gHaQy&pid=Api&rs=1

        Priapus

        March 27, 2020 at 8:36 pm

  249. Aleister

    March 27, 2020 at 4:07 pm

  250. Funny how a global pandemic can “end homelessness by the weekend”. Just like that. Magic. After decades of initiatives, so-called charities coining it in, etc. It goes to show that homelessness is a political choice, a choice that has been made by many governments of assorted colours down through the years. Homelessness is deliberate policy. How many other scams are out there that could “end by the weekend”?

    Blinding Lights

    March 27, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    • It’s only a temporary measure to stop the homeless infecting others with coronavirus. Nothing to do with helping rough sleepers to get indoors permanently. Once a vaccine has been developed or the virus dies away to a tolerable level naturally the rough sleepers will be dossing down on pavements again.

      큰 음경

      March 28, 2020 at 2:23 pm

  251. that work search requirements for claimants of universal credit or new style JSA are not imposed for a period of 3 months, and that any existing work search requirement no longer applies so that the requirement to be ‘able and willing immediately to take up paid work’ no longer applies;

    Billy Boyne

    March 28, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    • No more work search requirements? That’s because there are no jobs, the global economy is on its knees duh.

      Violet

      March 28, 2020 at 4:25 pm

  252. “for claimants who have an award of old style JSA to be treated as available for work and actively seeking employment for at least the next 3 months”

    Billy Boyne

    March 28, 2020 at 4:11 pm

  253. for jsa nothing has changed as nothing has been said about anyone claiming jsa or why we dont get as much on uc and only 73.10 per week. we have just been forgotten about like we dont exist

    superted

    March 28, 2020 at 4:39 pm

  254. Ted, I think they are probably trying to force jsa claimants to sign up for universal credit and that’s the reason why uc has gone up £20 a week

    ~ are you tempted?

    Violet

    March 28, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • no because one way or another they will be forced to pay out as we are getting shat on at the worst possible time.

      superted

      March 28, 2020 at 5:50 pm

      • It is wrong that JSA / ESA are not being uprated. But those people on JSA in particular, are still seen as not co-operating with the DWP. This is the payback for that.

        Dave

        March 28, 2020 at 6:27 pm

      • Its not just the benefit thats seen as legacy.

        The Welfare State

        March 29, 2020 at 3:04 am

  255. but you can now claim new style jsa if you have been working 2 years and paying in to the system, you will only get £73.10 same as jsa.

    you cant have 2 systems for the same thing at different rates it is unlawful as 1 will gain and 1 will not.

    superted

    March 28, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    • Yeah, it’s very wrong Superted. How can they get away with just putting up the Universal Credit and ignoring everybody else ? But there doesn’t seem to be much complaint about it ?

      Rob

      March 28, 2020 at 8:51 pm

  256. Miscellaneous changes to social security in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak
    New regulations in force from 30 March 2020

    New regulations have been issued that provide for miscellaneous changes to social security in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.

    In force from 30 March 2020, the Social Security (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regulations 2020 (SI.No.371/2020) provide –

    billyboyne

    March 28, 2020 at 9:55 pm

  257. If the UK is to emerge from the crisis, and avoid the Tory Government using it as an excuse to double down on austerity, post-Covid-19, then it’s imperative that people wise up to MMT – Modern Monetary Theory, and pretty fast.

    If there was ever a demonstration that its interpretation of the money creation process in the UK is correct, this crisis has proved it. Sunak was able to promise billions upon billions of pounds of extra-ordinary public spending, without even the pretence of needing to raise taxes from the population in advance. Yet this is the deceit that they maintain at all other times.

    Mutterings have been made about how this sudden and incredible government largesse would be “paid for”, and the supposed answer, “borrowing”, was seen to be half-heartedly mooted by commentators, both on TV and in print. But it was never quite explained precisely who it was who would be doing the lending! The private sector is in tatters as a result of this crisis; they’re pleading with the government for massive bailouts themselves! And are certainly not in any position whatsoever to lend money to anyone!

    Fortunately, the reality is that they don’t need to. HM Government is the monopoly creator of the currency, and does not need to “borrow” a single penny in order to spend. Why would it? It’s easy for the govt-owned BoE to create money, it does it every day whenever the government spends into the economy – a simple keyboard stroke that adds pounds to the BoE reserve account of Dyson’s bank, and all those ventilators are paid for. Another to buy a further £200bn of Gilts on the secondary market. A third to provision the contents of the converted Excel “hospital”, a fourth to pay the 80% of furloughed workers’ salaries that Sunak promised… it’s so easy, its almost obscene!

    And, as each of those initial and subsequent transactions circulates around the economy, they will be taxed, in the normal way (VAT, Income Tax, NI, Duties, etc) until, at any positive tax rate, in an ever-declining geometric regression, every single penny of that extra spending that Sunak carried out will be returned to the Exchequer – where, in an opposite, reserve-drain operation at the BoE, it’s removed from circulation, and effectively destroyed. That’s almost obscene too, and yet that’s exactly what happens – each and every day.

    The only currency that won’t be subject to taxation will be any that is saved – and that will show up as ‘The Deficit’!!! Shock horror! But so, what? It’s the people’s savings. So, the only budget deficit that will result from all of Sunak’s ‘generosity’ will be our savings. No big deal, once they get spent, they’ll be taxed in the normal way, and “The Deficit” (= our savings) will subside accordingly.

    Importantly, the only reason that any *extra* taxation, or cuts in public spending, might need to occur, post-Covid-19 crisis, is if there are too few goods and services in the economy to absorb the extra spending that has occured – leading to inflation and overheating of the economy. Because this crisis has effected the supply side as well as the demand side, the situation is potentially more complex than in 2008, and temporary shortages *could* lead to some price increases, but as there is a demand side recession too, this could equally well balance out. Time will tell, but I wouldn’t exactly anticipate a boom, especially if people net save – there’s more likely to be a recession, requiring further increases in spending or tax cuts as a stimulus.

    In the meantime, it’s essential that we all understand this whole government spending process properly, in order to robustly counter the inevitable calls for post crisis-austerity that the Tories will subject us to. Only a true knowledge of the money creation process in the UK will allow us to resist their wheedling calls to “pay for” what has just been spent, when the reality is, it doesn’t need to be “paid for” at all.

    We will have already, automatically, paid any taxes incurred as a result of the extra transactions that take place, and some of us will have paid with our lives for the decade of Tory neglect to the NHS, that will result in higher casualties than necessary. We must certainly not be made to pay twice!

    #LearnMMT

    Sheinokowi

    March 29, 2020 at 8:02 am

  258. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/universal-credit-dwp-changes-april-3995131

    2. Universal Credit additional increase
    As well as Universal Credit being boosted by the end of the benefit freeze, it is getting another increase as part of Government measures to tackle the economic impact of coronavirus.

    From April 6, the Government is increasing the standard allowance in Universal Credit by 1,000 a year, or about £80 a month, on top of the inflation uprating.

    This means that for a single Universal Credit claimant (aged 25 or over), the standard monthly allowance will increase from £317.82 to £409.89 per month.

    This applies to all new and existing Universal Credit claimants and will be in place for one year.

    superted

    March 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    • @superted – But what about legacy JSA / ESA claimants ? It’s just like the DWP are deliberately trying to be clever by ignoring the legacy claimants. Though I have no doubt that ‘legacy claimant’ is a dirty word with the DWP these days.

      Jeff Smith

      March 29, 2020 at 11:25 pm

  259. It’s really boiling my blood the extra money uc claiments are gonna get.
    It’s discrimination.

    If legacy claiment were getting the extra money, whilst uc were being ignored, everyone would be crying for them, but as legacy claiments we are supposed to be ashamed that we are on old fashioned benefit.

    Now they want everyone locked inside for 6 months. Kill me now.

    big bird

    March 30, 2020 at 12:10 am

  260. Is Andrew Coates OK? Haven’t heard anything from him for a while.

    And for some reason my box has gone from brown to blue, WTF!

    jj joop

    March 30, 2020 at 6:47 am

    • And now its gone back to its original colour, hmmm.

      jj joop

      March 30, 2020 at 6:48 am

  261. SIR Dickie Branson and SIR Stelios want their staff to risk their lives by exposing themselves to a deadly virus. SIR Dickie is quick to point out that his staff will be paid by the GOVERNMENT. SIR Dickie won’t be paying his laid off staff a bean. SIR Dickie also expects a £££ multi-billions Government ‘bail-out’. Will SIR Dickie be risking HIS life? Is SIR Dickie holed up in his private Nectar Island? Has SIR Dickie got no shame?

    “Thousands of EasyJet and Virgin airline staff are being offered work in the new NHS Nightingale Hospital in east London.

    Those who sign up will support nurses and clinicians at the coronavirus field hospital, the NHS said.

    Virgin Atlantic said furloughed staff who helped would be paid through the government retention scheme.

    NHS England said many airline staff were first aid trained and already had security clearance.

    The workers would be changing beds and performing other non-clinical tasks and helping doctors and nurses working on the wards, the NHS said.

    Virgin Atlantic said it had written to about 4,000 employees, while EasyJet said it had contacted 9,000 of its UK-based staff – half of whom were first aid trained, the airline said.”

    SIR Dickie Btanson is a bearded wanker

    March 30, 2020 at 7:56 am

    • Basically they will be auxiliary nurses. Doing all the REAL work, Getting paid £jack shit. Doing all the dirty and dangerous work. Meanwhile the over-paid, lazy STAFF nurses will be sat on their arses in the ‘isolated’ pod eating chocolates, or probably working ‘remotely’ from home. You would have to be NUTS to sign up for this. Come on, Sir Dickie and Sir Stelios let’s see you pair of fuckers on the frontline.

      Kaffy

      March 30, 2020 at 8:05 am

    • jobcentre work coaches should be forced to do this. leave off the airline staff. shell is family. she ain’t risking her life/

      the mitchells

      March 30, 2020 at 8:09 am

  262. SIR Dickie Btanson is a bearded wanker

    March 30, 2020 at 7:58 am

  263. jobcentre lockdown will last at least six months guvmint chief medical officer says pmsl

    superted's rotten teef

    March 30, 2020 at 8:27 am

    • Where are the Jobcentres going to get the staff, or the time, to check 6 months jobsearch ?

      Pete

      March 30, 2020 at 10:57 am

  264. US

    Coronavirus: Teenage boy whose death was linked to COVID-19 turned away from urgent care for not having insurance

    covid

    March 30, 2020 at 10:17 am

  265. So in six months time, people who still do printed jobsearch like @superted will just bring it in a rucksack, and empty it out on the desk ?

    Dave

    March 30, 2020 at 11:00 am

    • well the number of jobs being advertised on total jobs and cv library ect have not slowed down so i wont have a problem with job search but it makes me think theses jobs just dont exist and are just fishing for cvs for the right ppl they want.

      it does not make any sense at all but prob why i never get any human to reply.

      superted

      March 30, 2020 at 11:58 am

      • Also indeed.co.uk and reed.co.uk, I agree most of the jobs probably don’t exist. I have had a few responses over the years, and did get some temp paid work. but most the time the job had already been filled or due to the numbers applying for the job, an automatic email back saying the formatted unsucessful email

        The employment agencies will either want you to have a video interview or just a phone call, if staff have not been laid of working for them.

        my_final_username

        April 1, 2020 at 8:30 pm

  266. There still needs to a clear statement from the DWP, that all job search requirements are suspended for everyone on benefits. And no-one will be expected to turn up in 3 or 6 months time with half a year’s jobsearch in one go. It will just be enough to turn up, sign-on again, and start with a blank sheet. And no questions asked.

    Jack Reid

    March 30, 2020 at 11:05 am

    • These are the new Regulations “https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/371/made”

      They explicitly state “Regulation 6 applies to a claimant who has an award of universal credit or new style JSA and makes provision so that work search requirements are not imposed for a period of 3 months from the date these Regulations come into force as a consequence of the outbreak of coronavirus disease. Provision is also made so that any existing work search requirement no longer applies and so that the requirement to be “able and willing immediately to take up paid work” under a work availability requirement applies only once the regulation ceases to apply. There is power for the Secretary of State to extend the 3-month period in consequence of the continuation of the outbreak of coronavirus disease.”

      billyboyne

      March 30, 2020 at 7:33 pm

      • Old style JSA – availability for employment and actively seeking employment
        7.—(1) As a consequence of the outbreak of coronavirus disease, a person who has an award of old style JSA is to be treated as—

        (a)available for employment; and
        (b)actively seeking employment,
        for the purposes of the Jobseekers Act 1995(21).

        (2) This regulation applies for a period of 3 months beginning with the date that these Regulations come into force and the Secretary of State may extend that period for all cases or any class of case where it appears expedient as a consequence of the continuation of the outbreak of coronavirus disease.

        (3) In this regulation, “old style JSA” means a jobseeker’s allowance under the Jobseekers Act 1995 as that Act has effect apart from the amendments made by Part 1 of Schedule 14 to the Welfare Reform Act 2012 that remove references to an income-based allowance.

        Jobseeker’s Allowance – periods of sickness
        8.—(1) A person who has an award of jobseeker’s allowance and who is—

        (a)infected or contaminated with coronavirus disease;
        (b)in isolation; or
        (c)caring for a child or qualifying young person who is a member of the person’s household and who falls within sub-paragraph (a) or (b),
        and who satisfies the requirements for entitlement to a jobseeker’s allowance other than those specified in section 1(2)(f) of the Jobseekers Act 1995(22) (not having limited capability for work) is to be treated as capable of work or as not having limited capability for work.

        (2) Any period during which this regulation applies to the person is to be disregarded for the purposes of calculating the number of occasions for the purposes of—

        (a)regulation 55(3) or 55ZA(5) of the Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 1996(23);
        (b)regulation 46(3) or 46A(5) of the Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 2013(24).
        (3) In this regulation, “jobseeker’s allowance” means an allowance under the Jobseekers Act 1995.

        so nothing at all has changed on jsa you must job search or risk sanctions wtf.

        new style jsa is jsa just the first 6 months are contribution based and then it changed to income based jsa what i am on now and it is also the same rate £73.10 per week so the only difference is they dont have to look for work.

        if ppl have been working for 2 years paying in to the system and get told to claim ns jsa there going to be pissed big time.

        yet anyone on uc that has never paid a penny in to the system will be £1000 better off.

        coronavirus disease;

        im pretty sure it is a virus,pmsl 😉 and has been around since the 1930s
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

        superted

        March 30, 2020 at 8:04 pm

  267. Why aren’t the old-style paper £20 notes that the wasteful Bank of England are burning not being used to purchase ventilators and other essential medical equipment for the NHS? I am sure that it you were in need of life-saving equipment you wouldn’t care less if it had been purchased with a paper or a plastic polymer note. The Bank of England are a disgrace.

    Mag

    March 30, 2020 at 11:35 am

  268. https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1262123/universal-credit-coronvirus-sanction-claim-uk-changes

    Ms Coffey has not ruled out sanctions altogether during this time.

    However, people on benefits should not have their payments stopped for failing to seek work during the next three months of the coronavirus crisis, Metro reports.

    In a letter to committee chairman and Labour MP Stephen Timms, Ms Coffey wrote: “Recognising the need for DWP civil servants to focus on the processing of claims, we will not be checking conditionality compliance regarding looking for and being available for work for the next three months.

    “This means no sanctions should be applied for that reason for the next three months and regulations will be introduced to bring that to effect.

    We do, however, want claimants to continue to look for work.

    “These are difficult times, however new jobs are being created.

    Following the meeting of the Work and Pensions Committee on Wednesday, Mr Timms asked Ms Coffey to outline any circumstances where claimants could be sanctioned in the next three moths.

    However, according to Metro, there were no such circumstances set out.

    In response to the update from the Secretary of State on sanctions faced by benefit claimants, Rt Hon Stephen Timms MP, Chair of the Work and Pensions Committee, said on Thursday: “At a time of unprecedented national crisis, the last thing people need to be worrying about is a benefit sanction.

    superted

    March 30, 2020 at 11:44 am

  269. https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/with-unprecedented-numbers-of-people-needing-to-access-universal-credit-the-government-must-act-quickly

    April will finally see the end of the Conservative’s four-year freeze on benefits; it has been a critical driver of increased poverty and has left a shameful legacy of hardship. Disabled people and the poor have been hit the hardest by austerity measures. Still, there has been no increase in other benefits to support disabled people, carers or people who are unemployed. Now more than ever, we need to build resilience in all of our communities. The government should do the right thing and increase support for them too.

    superted

    March 30, 2020 at 4:53 pm

  270. The DWP are still playing one off against the other. Divide and Rule. But I imagine the so-called Managed Migration Pilot Project, of 10.000 claimants in Harrogate has been derailed by all these new claimants for Universal Credit.
    The DWP were supposed to be coming back to parliament in July about the Pilot Programme.
    Before the coronavirus crisis, they had only manged to transfer, was it 18 or 19 of the 10,000 ?
    The deadline for total transfer to Universal Credit (optimistic) was 2026. They still have to complete the Pilot Project, and then go back to parliament to get new legislation passed. to allow the mass migration of all the remaining legacy claimants. Now after all this who knows ?
    At this rate, they’ll be able to put Buck Rogers on Universal Credit in the 25th Century.

    Jeff Smith

    March 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

  271. Anyone know whats happened to Andrew Coates ?

    Its judging by his last entry been 15 days since he last tended his thread.

    If anyone knows him, go check hes ok.

    Doug

    March 31, 2020 at 8:53 am

    • @ Doug – I don’t want to be indiscreet here Doug, but remember Andrew does have certain other duties to perform. No doubt we shall hear from him again in due course. Blessed Be.

      Zephyrus

      March 31, 2020 at 9:46 am

    • Probably cashed his cheque in from the DWP, took his wig off and buggered off in search of his next venture!

      Tigerlily

      March 31, 2020 at 3:06 pm

    • We will read his words again, my friends, in this life or the next and unite again to spread the cement of brotherly love and affection, that cement which unites us into one sacred band or society of the illuminated receivers of the light, among whom no contention should ever exist, but that noble emulation of who can best work or best agree. Vale fratribus et sororibus donec iterum conveniant. Amen.

      Most Puissant Sovereign Grand Commander and Illustrious Potentate of the Order of the Invisible Light

      March 31, 2020 at 3:56 pm

  272. superted

    March 31, 2020 at 11:51 am

  273. Whats gonna happen to jsa claiments who have no internet connection, the library s are all shut they have no chance to apply for jobs.

    Thank god I got a cheap smart phone to apply for fake jobs on cv library as I do not have the internet at home.
    I would not want to be the person who goes back to the job center and tell work coach after three months I haven’t applied for a job. Especially when the job center are still saying their are plenty of jobs out there.

    big bird

    March 31, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    • nothing has changed for jsa claimants buy law you must be available for work and be actively seeking employment.

      the law requires you must take at least 3 steps per week and provide evidence if required but if a sanction is issued you better have a copy of this as it is your only defence at a tribunal.

      tbh they would be totally stupid to do this given the situation as you have a good reason but id still cover my ass anyway you can because they could sanction you as the law stands today.

      a high level sanction could be applied!

      Higher level
      The higher level sanction may apply if, for example, you:

      Leave a job voluntarily

      Lose a job through misconduct

      Fail to take up a job or mandatory work activity without a good reason.

      A higher level sanction will last for:

      13 weeks for a first failure

      26 weeks for a second failure.

      Updated: February 2020

      superted

      March 31, 2020 at 9:46 pm

      • Much of whats out there recently is late night finishes and shiftwork coming through.Those with own transport and driving licences are those they want and likely to be more open as these vacancies are harder to fill.

        Its all about having something someone else hasn’t but in can come down to somthing petty such as age.

        As the post cannot be relied on its best check before a signing day incase of a time is missed.

        ken

        April 1, 2020 at 3:58 am

      • @superted

        What mandatory work activities are there, now?

        jj joop

        April 1, 2020 at 9:03 am

      • none that i know of but not seeking work for 3 months would lead to a high level sanction

        superted

        April 1, 2020 at 10:36 am

  274. More madness from the BBC,

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/31/tv-licence-fee-could-be-replaced-by-broadband-levy-says-bbc

    “implement a funding model “linked directly to an existing common household bill” such as an internet connection, council tax, or electricity supply.”

    “Under this proposed system bailiffs could be sent to homes on behalf of the broadcaster to collect payment, while individuals’ credit ratings could be affected.”

    Billy Boyne

    March 31, 2020 at 9:57 pm

  275. ‘Close to a million people have attempted to claim benefits in the last two weeks in Britain with coronavirus having ravaged the economy.’- Daily Mirror

    Most of these poor devils are still weeks away from getting any actual money. What incentive does the DWP think there is, for a legacy claimant of Jobseeker’s Allowance to take a short-term temporary job ? Then join the other million in the queue for Universal Credit ?

    Jeff Smith

    April 1, 2020 at 8:37 am

    • @Jeff Smith

      May be that’s just what they want – to get us legacy claimers out of the way and on UC.

      jj joop

      April 1, 2020 at 9:11 am

      • @jj joop – The DWP do seem to be running a deliberate campaign of ignoring the legacy JSA claimants.
        Seeing them as inconvenient left-overs from the old benefit system. And people that they are determined not to reward for staying on legacy JSA. Which is why legacy JSA claimants were excluded from the recent increase to Universal Credit.
        But in reality, who would want to transfer to Universal Credit at the moment ?

        Jeff Smith

        April 1, 2020 at 9:40 am

  276. Not suprised to see that the Harrogate Universal Credit Pilot Scheme has now been suspended.
    The whole thing has gone into free-fall along with rest of Universal Credit.

    Tom Sutton

    April 1, 2020 at 10:15 am

  277. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52114414

    funny thing is my job search has not stopped and am getting plenty of new jobs to apply for every day but!

    90% of the jobs are sales assistant yet most of these places are closed so why would they be advertising new jobs when there all going bust and not even open?

    makes me think none of these jobs were ever real in the first place as it does not matter how many i apply for i still get nothing bar a auto reply.

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 11:29 am

    • I’ve seen jobs appear on findajob at 3am on Christmas day. It’s obvious some employers just set their account to auto repost and don’t bother to update it if the vacancy is filled.

      bob

      April 1, 2020 at 5:08 pm

  278. York woman fined for breaching coronavirus rules

    A woman has been fined for breaching coronavirus restrictions after she refused to tell police who she was and why she was at a railway station.

    Marie Dinou, 41, from York, was arrested at Newcastle Central Station at 08:00 GMT on Saturday.

    North Tyneside Magistrates’ Court imposed a £660 fine under the Coronavirus Act 2020 on Monday.

    Dinou, who did not enter a plea, was also ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £66 and costs of £85.

    British Transport Police assistant chief constable Sean O’Callaghan said enforcement of the new legislation was a last resort.

    “In this case, officers tried their utmost best to engage with Dinou.

    “I can assure you we would much rather not have to take such action.”

    Under the Coronavirus Act, it is illegal to fail to comply with the instructions of police officers without reasonable excuse.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-52121216

    Police State UK

    April 1, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    • well I had the top deck of the bus to myself. Tfl must be commended on running a full service on the 142 with slightly more passengers.Watford council simply say if you have symptoms stay in doors on posters in the town none of this stay in doors regardless save lives elswhere.And yes I was fine.

      Carrie on

      April 2, 2020 at 6:30 pm

  279. Boris removes broadband data caps.

    Turdgeon removes trial by jury.

    Haggis

    April 1, 2020 at 1:25 pm

  280. Scotland the first country to ban sales of alcohol due to Covid 19 outbreak

    https://introtimes.com/vip/1040808/Scotland-first-country-ban-sale-due-to-covid-19-outbreak-48904

    Avril Pool

    April 1, 2020 at 1:31 pm

  281. Anger as coronavirus DWP benefit rise skips out millions of families

    Around 2million people who are still on ‘legacy’ benefits miss out on the boost to Universal Credit – and the vast majority are sick or disabled, claiming ESA

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/anger-coronavirus-benefit-rise-skips-21792756

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 2:31 pm

  282. ‘At the last count 183,000 people were on JSA, 372,000 on Income Support and 2million on ESA.’

    Completely unfair that these people are being deliberately excluded from the benefit increase. This needs to stop. #EqualPayJSA

    Pete

    April 1, 2020 at 2:54 pm

  283. DWP Permanent Secretary Peter Schofield added the rate of legacy benefits could not be changed quickly due to older computer systems.

    now that is a load of bollocks as all they had to do was increase the 1.7% we was getting anyway.

    more like it is they do not give a crap about us in the first place.

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 3:23 pm

    • @superted – Of course it is, absolute nonsense. They could easily make the extra payment, just as they have made the £1.25 increase to JSA etc. They don’t want to give extra money to people who are determined to stay on JSA for as long as possible.

      Jeff Smith

      April 1, 2020 at 5:36 pm

      • it would not make any difference to me if i was moved on to uc i have all the foi requests i need and i wont be doing a 35hr job search or will i have a journal.

        i think i have 35hr job search on my cc but i dont do it as it is a expectation and can not be enforced with sanctions, they did try and lost.

        but what is going to happen when the jcp offices open back up the ques will be so long it will be impossible to see every one as it is with the sheer numbers making claims.

        i did offer to sign on 1 time per year tho, make it happen 😉

        superted

        April 1, 2020 at 6:52 pm

  284. EXTRA HELP Universal Credit now calling applicants who can’t get through on phones to book appointments – how to get a ring back
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11300849/universal-credit-calling-applicants-phones-book-appointments/

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 6:55 pm

  285. superted

    April 1, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    • Isnt he just so cute, thinking hes life will continue as normal.

      I see a welfare guru in the making, well until he tries to guru his work advisor that is.

      Doug

      April 2, 2020 at 7:58 am

    • Welcome to our world, dear!

      jj joop

      April 2, 2020 at 9:15 am

    • The moment he mentioned his “accountant” alarm bells started ringing. It appears this Andrew Keates chap is director of his own company Arion Productions Ltd. In other words, in the eyes of the taxman he isn’t self employed and can’t claim a penny through this scheme.

      bob

      April 2, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  286. 1) “Criticism” of the government is being channelled into ideas that the government WANTS people to have, such as:

    a) the authorities should have done exactly what they’re doing but faster
    b) the authorities should do what they plan to do but sooner, namely test and vaccinate
    c) there’s a big problem from anti-social elements.

    The thinking person needs to call all three of these ideas bullsh*t.

    2) Ever more draconian “next steps” may include:

    a) compulsory tests
    b) compulsory vaccination
    c) food shortages
    d) power cuts
    e) no availability of cash from bank machines and bank branches
    f) a strain that kills many younger people including children
    g) proper rationing – i.e. each person allowed e.g. 1 loaf per week and no company is allowed to sell a loaf without stamping a ration card (to be done digitally of course)
    h) a vicious clampdown against those who have not been tested or vaccinated, to include imprisonment and the denial of ration cards, i.e. denial of food – resisters will basically be called antisocial killers fit only to be starved and hunted. (Tory heaven!)

    Remember that list.

    3) These are some facts that say a lot:

    a) government and media are deliberately confusing dying WITH CV19 with dying OF it
    b) the vast majority of those who have died with CV19 would have died soon anyway
    c) the idea that the authorities and big business don’t know roughly how many people have got CV19, and roughly how many have had it (and therefore have the antibodies), is an obvious lie. You do NOT have to test millions of people to get that information.

    4) My advice is as follows:

    a) hoard food (I have been advising this for some time)
    b) prepare to resist testing and vaccination
    c) spread knowledge of the above points

    5) Listen up

    Many like to think that “black swan events” (to use Nassim Taleb’s terminology) are what they always thought might happen. This is usually utter rubbish, and leftwingers such as myself who were predicting a breakdown were an extremely small minority.

    @Craig – I believe you once called me “delusional” here for predicting a widespread breakdown. (I couldn’t find the source.) One is now underway.

    6) Biological warfare, the United States, and the cull

    a) China, Taiwan and both Korean regimes have long been far stronger in BW defence than the US. To be strong in BW defence you need effective internal centralisation which the US has not got. China has a major strategic advantage over the US.

    b) Donald Trump is deliberately trying to overstate the number of deaths so as to appear the hero when it turns out to be lower. But soon all of that discourse will be swept away. Donald who? He is unlikely to be re-elected and probably will not even be the Republican candidate.

    c) A cull was coming anyway. Almost all of the world’s serious elites want it.

    d) Nutshell: BW is far more similar to psychological warfare than CW and NW are, even if it can be at least as deadly as CW and NW and indeed more so.

    7) Climate loons

    …are keeping remarkably quiet. Ask why. This situation will at some point change when those among the cultists who aren’t dead poke their heads out again.

    R Nought

    April 1, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    • Just been to put gas in the pick-up truck…Big fucking sign – ‘Card Payments Only’. Cashless society to protect us from dirty money, here we come. Visited Aldi yesterday for some essential supplies, only 10 persons allowed in store at any one time, one out, one in. The queue stretched around and around the parking lot, with everyone silently standing 10 feet apart.

      AJ

      April 1, 2020 at 8:34 pm

      • It was the same here at standing downwind of everyone else then in the store walking past them,there were no handbaskets and people had to use their shopping bag.

        ken

        April 2, 2020 at 6:08 am

  287. this is a controlled destruction of the economy and at this rate the cure will be way worse than the virus 100k+ has died on benefits and been found fit for work they dont give a shit about them.

    if the plan is to make the hole country bankrupt then it is working as 3 months lock down will pretty much close most small to mid size company’s and force millions on benefits.

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    • With the COVID-19 situation evolving every day, and the unprecedented high demand, we are recruiting a number of full-time xxx for our site in xxx. You will play a key role in helping the company meet the nation’s food requirements, and helping our customers get what they need during these challenging times.

      There are jobs out there for people recently laid off but with shifts 6am to 10pm,the longer term unemployed don’t have the meansfor many reasons.Theres always someone who will make money from a crisis but Its brought the country to its knees.

      ken

      April 2, 2020 at 6:32 am

  288. 17 days, 3 passed the isolation rule and still no sign of Andrew Coates.

    Do you know him, is he ok ?

    Doug

    April 2, 2020 at 8:09 am

    • Coatsey hasn’t got the internet at home. All his stuff on here is done at the library and they’re all closed.

      Informer

      April 3, 2020 at 8:13 pm

      • I would imagine he has a mobile phone though and could have just dropped a post so we all know he is ok.

        Doug

        April 5, 2020 at 9:04 am

      • The late Andrews Coates library must have kept strange opening hours since back in his earthly years he used to post at all sorts of unearthly days and times and days like the middle of the night on a Christmas Day Sunday morning. As you say, now that Coates is in the ‘next room’ a quick post from beyond the grave would have been appreciated though just to let those of us still in the land of the living know that he is enjoying life on the other side and what ‘work search’ requirements the Jobcentre impose on the dead. RIP Andrew Coates. Missed Sorely. It was a blast.

        Ipswich Marxist Society

        April 5, 2020 at 10:25 am

  289. And coming soon for many of these newly unemployed people, the day-to-day reality of being on Universal Credit. 35 Hour Jobsearch. Conditionality. ‘Work Preparation Requirements’. Training Courses. etc.

    Jeff Smith

    April 2, 2020 at 8:50 am

  290. This is on the UK governments website.

    UK downgrades covid – 19 ; no longer a high consequence infectious disease.

    https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/status-of-covid-19-plandemic/

    Violet

    April 2, 2020 at 10:49 am

  291. Well the training courses will have to take place online due to covid-19

    The job centre staff will not have time to go through your job log, unless appointments are 1 hour for each person

    my_final_username

    April 2, 2020 at 11:18 am

    • According to findajob ‘There is significant demand for nurses, healthcare assistants, social care workers, delivery drivers, warehouse workers and retail workers.’ The jokecentre could still haul in ‘randomly 😉 selected’ individuals for a 2-3 hour Shit Squad-style ‘chat’. And go through the 3, 6, month, 2 year+ ‘job search’ with a fine-tooth comb. But still once you are paid the ‘evidence’ has been accepted and put through so they shouldn’t really have any recourse except to the two weeks prior to when you next sign. And they should notify claimants of their next appointment in advance… like they didn’t do with the suspension of signing-on appointments.

      Viola

      April 2, 2020 at 11:39 am

      • they have waited 3 months+ and then tried to bomb me with sanction doubts in the past seems there is no time limit to impose sanction doubts.

        if you are on jsa id do your best to keep the job search going as buy law nothing has changed for jsa claimants.

        the law states you must take 3 steps per week so if you can do 3 job apps per week that will cover you if it did go to a tribunal.

        that is also the case for uc not the 35hr bs!

        superted

        April 2, 2020 at 11:48 am

  292. Universal Credit: Nearly one million people apply to claim DWP benefit in two weeks during UK coronavirus outbreak

    https://inews.co.uk/news/universal-credit-apply-claim-dwp-benefit-uk-coronavirus-outbreak-lockdown-2526851

    superted

    April 2, 2020 at 12:11 pm

  293. DWP ‘must change’ Universal Credit rules to let people with savings get cash.

    No one with savings over £16,000 can get the benefit. But with around a million flooding onto UC thanks to coronavirus, experts say it’s time for that rule to change.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-must-change-universal-credit-21792760

    superted

    April 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm

  294. DWP urged to get Universal Credit ‘battle ready’ to handle application spike

    https://www.civilserviceworld.com/articles/news/dwp-urged-get-universal-credit-%E2%80%98battle-ready%E2%80%99-handle-application-spike

    Think tank the Resolution Foundation said the Department for Work and Pensions’ own figures showed there had been 950,000 new claims for Jobseekers Allowance and Universal Credit in the past fortnight, representing a 692% increase on March 2019 – hugely outpacing the pattern seen following the global financial crisis. It said that claims for Jobseekers Allowance increased by 79% comparing February 2008 with February 2009.

    superted

    April 2, 2020 at 12:54 pm

  295. So rich people with more then £16000 pounds demand a uc payment. They dont need uc they have plenty of money to live on.

    Are these the same people who demonized jsa claiments for having a tv fags and beer.

    So not only are they gonna get £40 extra they think they are exempt from uc conditionality.

    And everyone still hate jsa, esa pension credit claiments.

    big bird

    April 2, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    • Actually they’re getting £80 a month extra and having to do none of the usual Jobseeking BS that we did… and it’s soooo hard for them, poor newbie claimants, the system doesn’t work, boo hoo…

      Welcome to what every so called “lazy scrounger” has had to go through for years ya work-having demonizing jerks >_>

      Funny thing, I had my own father the other day now he’s has a taste of isolation (lives with his wife) ask me how I’ve coped with having nothing to do on JSA for the last 5 years and being stuck indoors alone all the time without going crazy. My immediate response was “So you’re presuming it isn’t driving me crazy Dad?”

      AeonThePhoenix

      April 3, 2020 at 7:48 am

    • Rich people have way more than 16000 and simply wouldnt claim because they dont need to.

      Dont confuse these people with the hard working ones, many on min wage, all paying tax and national insurance that have slogged for a decade or two just to scrap together 16000 or a little more.

      To lock them out is effectively double taxing them even before the virus.

      Dont let your emotions overtake your logic receptors.

      Doug

      April 3, 2020 at 7:49 am

  296. Hello, I would like to give you some honest(ly bad) news from Germany. It seems the English and US-American media reports very positively about Germany and claims that Germans were more clean and had organised everything better.
    That is sooooo untrue.

    1. You can’t really get tested. Because you can only get tested if a) you have been in a known Corona-area (Italy, Switzerland) or if b) you know you had contact with somebody who has been tested positive for Corona.
    The fact is that most people don’t know if they are infected or not and that is why the infection is spreading rapidly in Germany.

    2. Our local government health offices (Gesundheitsämter) are supposed to report the numbers of Corona infections to the Robert-Koch-Institute who is supposed to collect and evaluate these numbers. Well, they are lagging behind. Sometimes the numbers from local gov health offices are up to two weeks late. That means the officially recognised numbers of infections and deaths as published by the Robert Koch Institute are likely wrong -> aka they are too low. That might explain why according to statistics[!] Germany has only one tenth / one seventh of the death numbers of France or Spain although Germany has nearly as many infected people as France or Spain.
    Oh, and dead corpses aren’t tested for Corona even if they might have died from Corona because it is cheaper to not test them. [sic(k)!]. Apparently it doesn’t matter if they might have infected other parties while they were still alive.

    3. Germany doesn’t have enough masks nor enough medical ventilators. You can’t even buy surgical face masks any more let alone those precious FPP3 masks and even disinfection was sold out for weeks.

    4. Every day German officials claim the opposite of the truth which was true three days ago. *LOL* Here is a summary:

    a) First, around the beginning of February, Germany was well prepared allegedly and face masks were not necessary and there was no need for a shut down of schools and such. And no need to stay at home and if you feel ill then go see your doctor. The German health minister presented himself as competent. The Robert Koch Institute claimed Corona was just about as bad as the flu.

    b) Then the German government advised people to stay at home and doctors reported there were no face masks nor disinfection for sale any more.

    c) Then Germany said you could get tested … but do call your doctor first. Don’t go to see your doctor. The truth was and is: you can only get tested if you had contact with a infected person (proven infection) of if you had been in a corona-area. Still no need to wear a mask according to officials who claimed that masks didn’t help at all.

    d) Then there were reports that people didn’t manage to get tested for days despite having been in a corona-area or having had contact with people who were infected proven.

    e) The German government said there was no need for hamster shopping (buying large quantities of daily goods). Well, three of my local supermarkets didn’t have flour nor noodles nor salt nor rice nor yeast for three weeks. Now they do have flour but only the most basic kind. Plenty of shelves for essential goods are still empty.

    A new measure was introduced: Contact to people other than those from your household is forbidden. Meeting people is forbidden. You are allowed to go out only for work, shopping or to see a doctor. Now the Robert Koch Institute says that Corona is bad and that people are going to die.

    f) The German health minister is dancing around questions regarding the lack of medical supplies. Germany tries to get some more medical ventilators by making non-medical engineering companies build ventilators.
    Merkel self-quarantines because she had contact with an infected doctor who gave her a vaccination for pneumococcus (causes pneumonia). I guess she received the advice for that pneumokokken vaccination because that vaccination sort of helps against corona. Because if you get a corona infection then your immune system is weakened and it might be a pneumococcus infection aka pneumonia that kills your lungs.
    Needless to say that Merkel didn’t share this advice with her electorate.

    g) The Robert Koch Institute claims that wearing masks might be sensible. Even home-made cloth masks might help slowing down the spreading of the infection. Many people will die. Merkel isn’t seen nor heard of for days.

    h) Plenty of people in a retirement home in Wolfsburg did die – apparently from corona. The nurses in retirement homes don’t have enough medical supplies, btw.
    The Robert Koch Institute receives the anonymised mobile phone data from mobile phone companies. They are supposed to evaluate if people do generally stick to the lockdown.

    i) The government wants to allow / to enforce an individual tracking app for mobile phones. They want to find out where the infected people had been for the last 2 weeks and who they might have met. Same kind of tracking for credit cards: where did infected people buy their groceries and who else bought groceries there at the same time?
    The protection of your personal data (Datenschutz) is one of our most important rigths. Our rights which are guaranteed in the German Constitution (Grundgesetz – basic law, founding law) are slowly eroding. Our government tries to get more and more rights and powers.

    j) The German health minister isn’t seen much and doesn’t seem to be effective at all.
    Merkel is tested negatively and resurfaces and gives a speech about … usual crap.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20200329/merkel-is-back-coronavirus-crisis-boosts-german-chancellor

    k) Merkel is against wearing face masks.

    ” … BILD erfuhr: Intern warnte die Kanzlerin davor, dass ein möglicher Maskenzwang zu übermäßiger Sorglosigkeit beim Abstandhalten zwischen den Menschen führen könnte. …”
    The “Bild” is a very trashy tabloid and can be compared to the Daily Mail except that the latter has longer texts ;-P
    Translation: “… Bild came to know: The Chancellor warned her closest advisors that a potential legal compulsion to wear face masks might lead to careless behaviour regarding the required distance between people…”
    So Merkel is “worried” that if people wear masks they no longer keep their distance to other people because they might feel save due to the masks. Also damp and wet face masks made from cloth might be like a corona virus spreading catapult.
    Yep, that is Merkel’s type of logic.
    More likely there aren’t enough masks and Merkel doesn’t want to admit she failed to storage enough masks. She doesn’t want people to try to buy masks because the medical professions need them more urgently. She is trying to hide her incompetence. Meanwhile lots of people start sewing their own masks though you don’t see them wearing them in public as of yet. Though there are plenty of people who wear gloves in supermarkets.
    I don’t quite see why there is no recommendation to wear a home-made mask or a shawl but that is Merkel.

    The German minister for health (Spahn) and the German Governor of North-Rhine-Westphalia (Laschet) do consider wearing face masks as not necessary. No explanation why it ain’t necessary.

    Spahn is trying to introduce digital prescriptions … makes it easier to control who prescribed what to whom. That won’t help against corona but in times of crisis politicians try to pass laws that give them more power and more money from business donors, for example from online pharmacies.

    l) I supposed that data protection will be eroded.

    m) The German minister for business and economics tries to “help” German businesses by providing credits. Apparently this won’t help small businesses but only big ones but he is trying to improve that.

    German minister for business and for economics and for handing over lots of money to big companies as “corona crisis credits” – he foresees problems with the supply chains.

    n) Big businesses like Adidas refuse to pay rent for their shops.

    To put it in a nutshell:
    Same bullshit over here.

    German Girl

    April 2, 2020 at 6:23 pm

  297. Please educate yourself about Covid-19

    So the deaths may seem low now, but that is not the full picture.

    Many (most?) of those who recover will have some degree of “lung scarring” (pulmonary fibrosis).

    Those with “lung scaring” are at risk of dying from complications. Most victims of “lung scarring” die within 5 years.

    !!

    Jill Rabbit

    April 2, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    • corona virus was first detected in the 1930s and many different strains resulting in cold or flu like symptoms.

      On average, how many people die every day in the UK? – Quora. The current rate is 1400 people each day in England and Wales.

      so that is 43400 in the month of march that would of died anyway.

      THE British people showed their thanks to the NHS and its staff with a moving round of applause — as the UK coronavirus death toll increased by 569 today to 2,961.

      thats a total of 46361 with the avg deaths anyway and the cv19 on top.

      Marie Curie based its estimate on data from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), which the charity said shows an average of 10 people a day died while waiting for a decision on their personal independence payment (PIP) claim over a five-year period

      so the dwp has killed 16800 ppl in 5 years just waiting.

      4,760 claimants died between the DWP referring their case to, and it returning from, an assessment provider.
      73,800 claimants died within 6 months of registering their claim.
      17,070 claimants died after registering but prior to the DWP making a decision on their claim.
      The total number of PIP claimants who died topped 95,000. But Newton’s response does not indicate at what stage of their claim the 73,800 people who died within six months of it being registered were at.

      https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2019/01/14/the-dwp-has-admitted-21000-people-died-waiting-for-benefits/

      the dwp is kicking the cv19 ass but no one gives a shit about that. 😉

      superted

      April 2, 2020 at 9:37 pm

      • Lots of datasets on death statistics to be found here:

        https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/

        *you need Excel (or similar programme) to open them

        ONS

        April 3, 2020 at 6:17 am

      • @superted

        I couldn’t have put it better myself. This whole thing and the government’s response to it has been blown out of all proportion.

        jj joop

        April 3, 2020 at 8:41 am

      • superted

        April 3, 2020 at 10:27 am

      • In 2018 1251 people died in Ipswich! That is quite a grim death toll. Why isn’t BBC FEAR reporting this tally 24/7.

        Sally from Ipswich

        April 4, 2020 at 8:18 am

  298. “ if you could hear at every jolt the blood come gargling from the froth corrupted lungs, obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud, of vile incurable sores on innocent tongues – my friend, you would not tell with such high zest, to children ardent for some desperate glory, the old lie, dulce et decorum est., pro patria mori.“

    – Wilfred Owen

    Wilfred Owen (A Random Poet)

    April 3, 2020 at 7:25 am

  299. BENEFITS BOOST Universal credit and benefit debt repayments paused during coronavirus crisis giving extra cash to millions

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11319784/universal-credit-benefit-debt-repayments-paused-coronavirus-crisis-giving-extra-cash-to-millions/

    superted

    April 3, 2020 at 12:47 pm

  300. What’s happened to Trev? Is he still at the laundrette?

    Billy Boyne

    April 3, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    • I heard Jobcentre Plus had cinched him a temporary shelf-stacking job at Sainsbury’s.

      Sarf of the River

      April 4, 2020 at 11:42 am

  301. Benefits claimants are being invited to apply for jobs handing out Universal Credit as staff deal with an “unprecedented” number of claims.

    And staff at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) have been asked to refer friends and family for temporary roles as they work to process an “extraordinary” number of benefits applications.

    Almost 950,000 claims for Universal Credit (UC) have been processed since March 16 as the effects of Britain’s coronavirus lockdown begins to bite.

    The department has admitted that it is currently operating with “higher than normal” sickness rates as staff are sent home to self isolate either because of underlying health issues, because they are displaying symptoms of the virus, or for unrelated reasons. – Manchester Evening News

    Pete

    April 3, 2020 at 8:22 pm

  302. THE PRETENCE OF THE NEO-CON DOOMSDAY PANDEMIC IS WEARING THIN AS THE WISER OF OUR POPULUS BEGIN TO QUESTION THE FORCED HOUSE ARREST OF IT’S CITIZENS.

    A CAREFULLY CRAFTED RUSE WHERE NORMAL DEATHS ARE ATTRIBUTED TO A CERTAIN STRAIN OF VIRUS.

    WHY ARE YOU PAYING CAR TAX, RATES AND INSURANCE TO BE TOLD YOU CANNOT VENTURE OUT?

    THE HOAX HAS BEEN CLEVERLY CRAFTED SO THE MULTINATIONALS TAKE OVER EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE.
    FROM FOOD AND CLOTHING TO ACCOMMODATION AND TRAVEL, THEIR AIM IS TO DESTROY THE SMALL BUSINESS AND MOVE IT TO THE MERCHANTS OF GREED THAT DEVISED THIS PLOT TO MAKE YOUR LIVES EVEN MORE WORTHLESS.

    A FEW THOUSAND DEATHS IS MERELY COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO THE SHYSTERS WHO APPEAR VIA THE PROPAGANDA MEDIA OF THE LIKES OF THE BBC AND SKY…

    START TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND QUESTION THE WORTHLESS MORTALITY FIGURES THAT ARE BANDIED ABOUT.

    YOU ARE NOW LIVING UNDER A FASCIST STATE AND UNLESS YOU REACT ACCORDINGLY THEY WILL WALK ALL OVER YOU AND REMOVE EVERY LIBERTY AND FREEDOM YOU HAVE EVER FOUGHT FOR.

    NOTHING YOU HAVE WORKED ALL YOUR LIFE FOR WILL BE SPARED.
    YOUR SAVINGS, YOUR PENSION AND THE BRICKS YOU LIVE WITHIN WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOU.

    GROW SOME BOLLOCKS AND REBEL.

    Fiona Barnthorpe-Worthington

    April 3, 2020 at 9:07 pm

  303. Age is certainly no guide as to the coronavirus disease course, unless you want to use the virus to find out if you actually have an underlying health condition you were previously unaware of? A bit too much like playing Russian Roulette for most people.

    Batty

    April 3, 2020 at 10:31 pm

  304. According to the DWP the lack of the £20 a week increase to JSA was not borne out of spite and hatred for JSA claimants but because of “technical problems with ‘legacy’ Windows XP computers”. The question is: will JSA claimants receive a ‘windfall’ when these computer problems are finally sorted out? And how will the DWP overcome these hurdles with their computers to apply the 1.7% April rise to JSA?

    Kegs

    April 4, 2020 at 8:09 am

    • With millions of new universal credit claimants to deal with you can bet that nothing will be done to Jobseeker’s Allowance for the duration of the Covid-19 epidemic. Which looks set to last for more than twelve months meaning that JSA claimants will NEVER get a penny of the £1000.00 increase UC recipients got to enjoy. I’m already on UC and am looking forward to an increase big enough to pay for my electricity, water, council tax, phone and TV license with a little bit left over. Considering all the shit that I have had to put up with on UC I think that both me and all other people suffering under the harsh UC regime for so long deserve a thumper up much more than the JSA folk who get an easier ride.

      Catty

      April 4, 2020 at 11:40 am

  305. I haven’t been able to spend any time with my girlfriend for ten days, possibly more, since the self-isolation instruction came into force. If this goes on for much longer I”m going to have to resort to solitary vice to ease the hydraulic pressure building up downstairs. I’ve decided to post this confession here because, as far as I can see, most of you people are massive w*nkers already and wouldn’t mind another toss*r to your ranks.

    Get a f*ck*ng job you b@st@rds!

    Master Baker

    April 4, 2020 at 11:51 am

  306. Master Bater…who cares about your urges, have a w@nk and STFU!

    Tigerlily

    April 4, 2020 at 3:29 pm

  307. Master Bater… No one cares about your urges, go and have a w@nk and STFU!

    Tigerlily

    April 4, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    • Hear hear.

      Violet

      April 4, 2020 at 4:42 pm

  308. How can we get a job .we are not allowed out for interviews, Boris said so

    big birf

    April 4, 2020 at 4:07 pm

  309. no video interview s if you have no internet connection

    big bird

    April 4, 2020 at 8:01 pm

  310. tesco mobile has sent me a msg and say unlimited uk calls from 8pm to 8am and free week end calls until the 1 of June.

    no data or txt msgs tho but better than nothing like from the dwp!

    superted

    April 4, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  311. BT Basic + Broadband is now UNLIMITED 🙂 It has been mentioned that BT don’t even charge for excess usage anyway but still 🙂 Use all the data you like 😀

    Busby

    April 4, 2020 at 9:04 pm

  312. 👿 I’ll be back!! 👿 😀 😀

    The Ghost of Andrew Coates

    April 5, 2020 at 12:30 pm

  313. Jeez, it’s warm down here 🙂

    Andrew Coates (deceased)

    April 5, 2020 at 12:33 pm

  314. Nick Handcock wants to ban exercise outside the home. What is SIR Keir Starmer’s response?: “New Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said the party would support the government it if decides to toughen lockdown measures.”

    SIR Keir Starmer is a knobhead!!

    April 5, 2020 at 12:54 pm

  315. According to the ONS Deaths…. Jan 2020 overall deaths in UK was 51158 of which 10703died of flu, Feb 2020, 44383 died of which 8235 died of flu and in March 2020 43375 died, of which 7370 died of flu.

    The 5 year average death rate in March is 44459 and therefore March 2020 is below the 5 year average. All of the numbers for 2020 are below the average. Why is this not being discussed?

    Chillisls

    April 5, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    • Because it’s not sexy, that’s why!

      jj joop

      April 5, 2020 at 2:21 pm

      • mass unemployment is going to kill way more than any virus the cure is worse than the cause.

        the bubble has burst again and the cv is the excuse this time round and the death rate will never go over the avg that ppl die every day anyway same as every other country.

        the dwp kill more ppl every 6 months anyway and thats fine 😉

        superted

        April 5, 2020 at 2:36 pm

  316. Such a shame 😦 Does anyone know when Andrew Coates funeral is? Or will there even be a funeral what with all this Covid-19 global pandemic we keep hearing about? RIP Andrew

    Betty from Ipswich

    April 5, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    • No funerals being held at present am afraid – Covid 19 restrictions apply. Your fallen comrade Coates will be thrown in the council limepit along with the rest of the dead ‘uns 😉

      Council Massgrave Digger

      April 5, 2020 at 2:44 pm

  317. ITS THE IMMIGRUNTS WOT CAUSED IT!!!! KEEP EM IMMIGRUNTS OUT!!!!!!

    WAYNE KERR

    April 5, 2020 at 6:57 pm

  318. ITS THE IMMIGRUNTS WOT CAUSED IT!!!! KICK EM IMMIGRUNTS OUT!!!!!!

    WAYNE KERR

    April 5, 2020 at 7:00 pm

  319. Breaking news…

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests, 10 days after testing positive for coronavirus, Downing Street has said.

    He “continues to have persistent symptoms of coronavirus”, a spokeswoman said – including a high temperature.

    It was described as a “precautionary step” taken on the advice of his doctor.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52177125

    Breaking News

    April 5, 2020 at 8:41 pm

  320. What’s it with bloody Tesco and all the reduced items showing as ‘unknown item’? This is happening all over the country; Ipswich, Lowestoft, Norwich, Tower Hamlets, Bridlington, Cleethorpes, Aberdeen, Bristol…. It means some poor assistant has to log on and scan all the contaminated items in. Get your fucking act together Tesco. And what is it with only ONE ATM out of four having any dosh in it? This country is going to the dogs I tell ya.

    Hackney Heath

    April 5, 2020 at 9:51 pm

  321. And when I say scan I mean key all the bloody 100 digit code in off the bloody packet. This country is going to the dogs I tell ya.

    Hackney Heath

    April 5, 2020 at 9:54 pm

  322. My local Jobcentre remains open. But to reduce footfall, catch up interviews are taking place by phone and where possible, initial claims cab be submitted on the DWP website. Appointments are being prioritised for new claims. Apparently a raft of extra support has been introduced to help those already claiming benefits.

    jj joop

    April 6, 2020 at 8:06 am

  323. According to David Icke the death of Boris Johnson will be the catalyst that ushers in the New World Order:
    Police State, Cashless Society, Facial Recognition, Control Grid. Johnson is a sacrificial pawn on the elite’s chessboard.

    Rose

    April 6, 2020 at 10:24 am

  324. You forgot 5G and AI flower!

    Violet

    April 6, 2020 at 10:40 am

  325. Keir Starmer is Labour leader! Hurrah! Now, with that fuckwit Jeremy Corbyn sent packing and his bully boys and minions about to be eclipsed Labour now has the best chance to recover, from its second worst and historic defeat in the party’s history, and make some headway to getting back into office. What a waste of skin Corbyn was. What damage Corbyn and his Momentum Stomtroopers caused, leaving the party in heavy debt and wallowing in discredit. Good riddance to old rubbish. Onward and upward to better days pray God!

    Victory on the Bounty bar

    April 6, 2020 at 12:12 pm

  326. Breaking news…

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been taken into intensive care in hospital with coronavirus.

    He has asked Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to deputise for him, a No 10 spokesman said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604

    Breaking News

    April 6, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    • Apparently Jacob Rees-Mogg has already ‘thrown his hat in the ring’ for the contest to be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. They don’t waste any time these Tories, do they. Boris is not yet cold in the grave and they are already squabbling over the proceeds.

      Ann

      April 6, 2020 at 10:17 pm

  327. Good news for Superted and all old style JSA claimants.

    New DWP guidance

    the lifting of work search and work availability requirements in universal credit and jobseeker’s allowance (JSA)

    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/welfare-rights/news/item/miscellaneous-changes-to-social-security-in-response-to-the-covid-19-outbreak

    Click to access adm4-20.pdf

    Billy Boyne

    April 6, 2020 at 8:49 pm

  328. UC AND JSA: WORK-RELATED REQUIREMENTS
    11.As a result of the Coronavirus disease outbreak for a period of 3 months from
    30.3.20, where a person has an award of JSA or UC
    1. the Secretary of State must not impose a work search requirement
    2. where a person already has an existing work search requirement it will cease to
    have effect from 30.3.20
    3. the requirement to be able and willing to take up work or attend an interview is
    lifted1
    .
    1 SS (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regs, reg 6(1)

    Billy Boyne

    April 6, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    • @Billy Boyne

      Does this apply to those who are on legacy JSA?

      jj joop

      April 7, 2020 at 6:34 am

  329. UC AND JSA: WORK-RELATED REQUIREMENTS
    11. As a result of the Coronavirus disease outbreak for a period of 3 months from
    30.3.20, where a person has an award of JSA or UC
    1. the Secretary of State must not impose a work search requirement
    2. where a person already has an existing work search requirement it will cease to
    have effect from 30.3.20
    3. the requirement to be able and willing to take up work or attend an interview is
    lifted1
    .
    1 SS (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regs, reg 6(1)
    12.This 3 months’ period may be extended by the Secretary of State if there is a
    continuation of the outbreak of Coronavirus1
    .

    DMG

    April 6, 2020 at 9:00 pm

  330. Oops, Billy, didn’t see your post, hadn’t refreshed the browser 🙂

    DMG

    April 6, 2020 at 9:03 pm

  331. i can still job search as still plenty of jobs coming in to apply for via emails from job sites, it is like nothing has changed pmsl.

    its not like the dwp and jcp staff to brake there own rules and regs and the law to sanction someone as been there and done that.

    i even showed them the foi that stated they was wrong and still done it anyway. and they lost.

    and i am still £1000 worse off on jsa i have £20 per week left after all the bills are paid and costs me £4.40 to catch the bus to sign on out of that.

    superted

    April 6, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    • @superted

      I take it you’ve seen Billy Boyne’s posting, above.

      https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/welfare-rights/news/item/miscellaneous-changes-to-social-security-in-response-to-the-covid-19-outbreak

      Are you going to continue with doing a job search?

      jj joop

      April 7, 2020 at 6:38 am

      • yup the hole 5 mins per day 😉

        superted

        April 7, 2020 at 11:10 am

    • These are only ‘decision maker’ guidance memos. Still nothing to stop coachy raising a doubt, the ‘decision maker’ pretending they haven’t received the memo and ‘recommending’ a sanction, and passing it back to coachy to apply the sanction. In the absence of official written notification from the Jobcentre a token 5 minutes a days butt covering ‘job search’ can’t do any harm. Five minutes for crying out loud, it is apparent that many of the commentators on here spend five hours a day at least, or more likely every waking hour watching David Icke ‘dot connector’ videos 🙂

      Alice Aforethought

      April 7, 2020 at 12:19 pm

      • lol it is not 5G that is sucking the oxygen out of their brains it is that David bloody Icke and his loony-bin nonsense.

        Sam

        April 7, 2020 at 12:22 pm

      • time taken to do a job search does not matter even on uc if you can prove you are applying for jobs then time taken goes out the window because they can not raise a sanction doubt for how long you job search for per week.

        they did try and lost at upper tribunal and turns out under law you must take at least 3 steps per week to find and gain employment.

        empty threats/ lies dont work on me i got it in writing 😉

        and when i do go back ill say i have done nothing and take it from there 😉

        superted

        April 7, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      • Universal Credit is a different benefit and much is said about this 35 hours a week jobsearch,the trouble is the DWP as is said here before is policy not law.

        The problem is now when are JSA claimants returning the post cannot be relied on and if someone isn’t contacted they could miss an appointment for signing.

        ken

        April 9, 2020 at 8:21 am

  332. Huw Edwards stated on the BBC Ten O’clock News this evening before announcing the latest Covid-19 death statistics: “Now this is very important this. These statistic do not include deaths in the community and care homes”. How many people are being told to ‘self-isolate’ by the NHS ‘helpline’ and dying in their beds?

    Ann

    April 6, 2020 at 10:22 pm

  333. According to David Icke ‘they’ are installing 5G in nursing homes as well as schools and hospitals. 5G sucks the oxygen out of the air and the old people die. It is then put down to ‘Covid 19’. Icke is adamant that: “Covid-19 does not exist. It is not real”.

    Bev

    April 6, 2020 at 11:26 pm

  334. And that is why they want us to hide in our homes. Whilst we are hiding indoors ‘they’ are busy putting up 5G masts.

    Bev

    April 6, 2020 at 11:33 pm

  335. And that is why they want us to hide in our homes. Whilst we are hiding indoors ‘they’ are busy putting up 5G masts!

    Bev

    April 6, 2020 at 11:35 pm

  336. So it seems that all jobsearching has been officially suspended for JSA claimants ? At least for the next 3 months. At last some clarity on this. It’s not really necessary, but if you have internet access, get a few applications in anyway. Just to be on the safe side.

    Jeff Smith

    April 7, 2020 at 8:41 am

  337. @Jeff Smith

    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/welfare-rights/news/item/miscellaneous-changes-to-social-security-in-response-to-the-covid-19-outbreak

    DMG Memo 06/20 appears to contradict ADM Memo 04/20.

    04/20 says you don’t have to search for employment; 06/20 says you must actively seek employment – confusing.

    04/20 says:

    UC AND JSA: WORK-RELATED REQUIREMENTS 11. As a result of the Coronavirus disease outbreak for a period of 3 months from 30.3.20, where a person has an award of JSA or UC 1. the Secretary of State must not impose a work search requirement 2. where a person already has an existing work search requirement it will cease to have effect from 30.3.20 3. the requirement to be able and willing to take up work or attend an interview is lifted1

    06/20 says:

    JSA: AVAILABLE AND ACTIVELY SEEKING EMPLOYMENT 6. As a result of the outbreak of Coronavirus disease, a JSA claimant is treated as available for and actively seeking employment1. Note: See DMG Chapter 21 for detailed guidance on availability for and actively seeking employment. 1 SS (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regs, reg 7(1); JS Act 95, s 6(1) & 7(1)
    7. Paragraph 6 applies for a period of three months from 30.3.20. That period may be extended as necessary where the outbreak continues1.

    jj joop

    April 7, 2020 at 9:02 am

    • @ jj Joop – Surely the 06/20 means that all JSA claimants will be treated ‘as if ‘ jobsearching ? In effect on a technical basis, even though they are not in fact doing so. And so can continue to be paid JSA .
      Remember the 6/20 is for Decision Makers who might have to decide whether to sanction someone or not.
      So the new ruling allows DMs to ignore the usual evidence required of jobsearching and availability. And consider this as already covered by the new ruling. On this basis, they are not contradictory
      No doubt for reasons of legal compliance, the DWP are operating an assumed jobsearch, as a technicality, during the 3 month period.

      Jeff Smith

      April 7, 2020 at 9:56 am

      • @ Jeff Smith: Yes, I think you are quite right on this Jeff. That’s certainly the way I read it. The DWP are suspending the jobsearch / availability requirements. And have granted an amnesty on jobsearch / availability for the 3 month period. The 6/20 just makes this official, so that Decision Makers don’t waste time trying to sanction people who have no jobsearch done for the lockdown period. In effect they are ticking the ‘jobsearch done’ box for everyone, no matter what if any, jobsearch they do.

        Tom Sutton

        April 7, 2020 at 12:33 pm

  338. never mind jobsearch. jsa claiments want the extra £20. its not fair.

    Jsa claiments won’t need a vaccine either, as we are expendable.

    big bird

    April 7, 2020 at 9:25 am

    • You might find they have to give this extra money in the end. With so many disabled claimants on ESA.
      Even if they want to ignore the legacy JSA people, it’s going to be very hard to justify not giving the £20 to disabled claimants, when they are giving it to healthy claimants on Universal Credit.

      Gerry

      April 7, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      • ESA is not disability benefits though. People on ‘disability’ benefits get a lot more money. People on ‘disability’ benefits can afford to buy a dozen huge chest freezers for their 4-bedroomed homes to fill with their stockpiled goods. There are some really selfish fuckers on ‘disability’ benefits. Too many people play the ‘poor me, I am disabled’ card. There is no such thing as mental disability. You cannot be ‘disabled’ with ‘depression’, ‘stress’, ‘anxiety’. These fuckers are taking the piss. The only people who should be paid disability benefits are those who are genuinely physically incapacitated like being stuck on a ventilator like Boris Johnson is at present. Lucy Martin, the BBC weather presenter right forearm is missing yet she still goes to work. And is if the ESA cohort would give a fuck if they got the extra dosh and the JSA cohort didn’t. Do you hear anyone on UC coming out in solidarity with the JSA comrades? Like the fuck you do. It is each man, woman and dog for themselves. People on ‘disability’ are human being after all i.e. selfish fuckers like everyone else.

        Elsie

        April 7, 2020 at 1:33 pm

  339. Still worth getting in a couple of jobs a week as an insurance policy, if you can.
    A. It’ll look good when you come to sign
    B. It’ll be cheap to get print-outs
    C. It will still be a lot more than many people will have

    Dave

    April 7, 2020 at 2:54 pm

  340. @dave
    good idea about abit of jobsearch. it would shut wc up when we go back.

    big bird

    April 7, 2020 at 3:29 pm

  341. Universal Credit: DWP announces suspension of benefit overpayment recovery rules.

    https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1266181/universal-credit-dwp-overpayment-recovery

    superted

    April 7, 2020 at 4:30 pm

  342. Your application has been received
    Your reference is your National Insurance number

    What happens next
    You’ll get a decision by post within 20 working days (4 weeks).

    If you’re offered a loan and you choose to accept it you must sign page 4 (the offer letter) as well as page 5 (the reply slip).

    You’ll also be told:

    how much you can borrow
    how much your weekly repayments will be
    how long it will take to repay
    You don’t have to accept a loan offer if you don’t want to.

    https://www.gov.uk/budgeting-help-benefits

    on jsa you can get £348 but you dont have to pay anything back until the over payment recovery is lifted as also covers budgeting loans.

    it is about £8 per week you pay back on jsa if you get the full amount.

    on uc you have to be claiming for 6 months b4 this is a option and can only be done over the phone.

    you do not have to accept the loan but you must sent the letter back in ten working days of receiving it or will have to apply again on line.

    superted

    April 7, 2020 at 9:49 pm

  343. @superted – Good post Ted. Useful info for people. even if we can’t get the £20 extra on JSA.

    Dave

    April 8, 2020 at 10:25 am

  344. If anyone’s interested, here is the link to the DWP web page for AMD Memo 04/20, which was brought to our attention to by Billy Boyne. Thanks Billy.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/advice-for-decision-making-staff-guide

    UC AND JSA: WORK-RELATED REQUIREMENTS
    11.As a result of the Coronavirus disease outbreak for a period of 3 months from
    30.3.20, where a person has an award of JSA or UC
    1. the Secretary of State must not impose a work search requirement
    2. where a person already has an existing work search requirement it will cease to
    have effect from 30.3.20
    3. the requirement to be able and willing to take up work or attend an interview is
    lifted1

    1 SS (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regs, reg 6(1)

    jj joop

    April 8, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    • im still getting plenty of jobs in my in box tho i have applied for 2 different jobs with furniture village.

      but!
      FOLLOWING RECENT GUIDELINES ALL OUR STORES ARE TEMPORARILY CLOSED
      We will be reviewing the situation regularly and we look forward to welcoming you back in store soon

      these job are not real and do not exist why even put them there at a time like this pmsl.

      no wonder i never get a reply lol but i will keep going if they want 16 full pages of job search not going to be a problem 😉

      not that i have a hope in hell now getting a real job now anyway.

      superted

      April 8, 2020 at 7:31 pm

  345. Theres some coming through to apply for and i’m still applying but theres people waiting for buses that are not arriving as services are being cut with little notice.There’s people using the bus coming home from work but little or no one else.I dont try now.

    This is going to go on for weeks and could be two or so months,I don’t know about anyone else but my stress has gone up with this lockdown and supermarkets.A week seems like a month with no end in sight.

    ken

    April 9, 2020 at 8:15 am

    • It is the media that is being wholly irresponsible by putting pressure on HM Gov to end the ‘lockdown’. What do you think the BBC is up to? If anything good comes out of this coronavirus it will be those in the media who are peddling this hysteria going bust. Print media is dead and their online advertising base is dwindling. The more of them that go bust the better. The BBC is another evil entity that need closing down permanently. Who do you think is pulling the strings of these reckless, irresponsible evil bastards? It is not HM Gov or Boris who is putting your life in danger ken, it is the media, and more to the point, whoever or whatever is pulling their strings. The media are a disgrace and deserves to die.

      Ann C

      April 9, 2020 at 10:17 am

      • @Ann C : It’s big business and the financial sector putting pressure on the Govt. to end the lockdown. They are losing millions. Businesses going bust left and right. There could well be a recession after all this. Just like 2008 and the 1980’s, all over again. A possible 6 Million unemployed in the worst case !

        Pete

        April 9, 2020 at 12:28 pm

  346. well my budgeting loan payment was still taken out of my jsa.

    superted

    April 9, 2020 at 11:05 am

    • @superted

      You can claim UC now, if you want to.

      Old-Style Legacy Jobseeker’s Allowance and Jobsearch Requirements during Covid-19 crisis

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/old_style_legacy_jobseekers_allo#incoming-1559209

      Dear Jeff Smith,

      Thank you for your Freedom of Information (FoI) request received on 25 March. You asked:

      Please disclose the information, guidance and operational policy specifically regarding ‘old-
      style’ legacy benefit claimants of Jobseeker’s Allowance, in relation to the Covid -19 /
      Coronavirus crisis.
      In particular, I wish to know what will be expected of ‘old-style’ JSA benefit claimants, in terms
      of their jobsearch activities during the current restrictions. You will appreciate, that where
      claimants do not have internet access at home, and are normally reliant on libraries and
      jobcentres for these activities, they are now faced with considerable difficulties .
      It will be impossible for these claimants to access their online accounts, and make their usual
      job applications. I know that as this national crisis unfolds, many of these claimants, remaining
      at home under government instruction, are increasingly concerned about their situation. What
      reassurance can the Department for Work and Pensions give to these claimants, with no
      internet access, that they will be treated fairly and without discrimination, when Jobcentres
      open again for personal appointments in due course ?

      DWP Response:

      I confirm that we hold some information relating to your request.

      Claimants to Legacy JSA do not need to attend JCP appointments until further notice. Though
      it is not mandatory, DWP encourage claimants to continue their usual job search activities in a
      voluntary capacity, if it is reasonable for them to do so whilst adhering to current government
      guidelines. If the claimant is unable to maintain their usual job search activities, due to lack of
      internet access or data availability, no conditionality will be applied to them for the duration of
      the Covid-19 situation. As a result of extending the permitted periods of sickness that can be
      reported by JSA claimants, this will prevent claims from being closed when a claimant is most
      vulnerable. Legacy JSA claimants retain the option of claiming Universal Credit instead if they
      believe they will benefit from the temporary increase in the Universal Credit base rate during
      current the Covid-19 situation.

      If you have any queries about this letter, please contact me quoting the reference number
      above.

      jj joop

      April 9, 2020 at 2:48 pm

      • i know they been trying to get me on it for years lol but no they will be taken to court over this anyway so ill just wait. 😉

        superted

        April 9, 2020 at 2:56 pm

      • Are they really going to take the £20 increase back again in a few months ? I can’t see that being very popular.

        Dave

        April 9, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    • Expect the expected superted,surprised you won’t be.

      ken

      April 9, 2020 at 2:58 pm

  347. I saw on twitter the people on uc who are receiving extra 20 pound are now receiving housing benefit letters saying their housing benefit is to be reduced by 20 pounds . therefore the claimant will have to make up the difference.

    very sneaky government.

    big bird

    April 9, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    • What they ‘give’ with one hand, they take away with the other. no surprises there, eh.

      jj joop

      April 9, 2020 at 3:40 pm

  348. Universal Credit claimants in coronavirus crisis can now share experiences in online survey
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/universal-credit-claimants-coronavirus-crisis-21841064

    superted

    April 9, 2020 at 5:49 pm

  349. It looks with this its not what they are saying its what their not,Italy’s situation isn’t good and theres been little mention these last days.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8205347/Italy-sees-number-new-coronavirus-deaths-rise-infections-tally-increase-4-000.html

    As the coronavirus maintains its grip on Europe, authorities are caught between the urgent need to reactivate battered economies and calls by health officials to maintain restrictions on public life. Merkel indicated that the battle will be long.

    “It will not disappear until we really have a vaccine with which we can immunize the population,” she said. “That means nothing less than we will have to live with the virus.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/merkel-says-tighter-measures-to-slow-virus-likely-unnecessary

    Its language we don’t here but to the point.Locally Traffic here in the town was like a near normal weekday and people are out and about with few shops open,so theres some movement.

    ken

    April 9, 2020 at 8:14 pm

    • if we are going to wait for a vaccine, ken we will be in permanent lockdown. By the time we have a vaccine for Covid-19, the virus will have mutated into Covid-20. We may never have to sign-on again 🙂

      Val

      April 10, 2020 at 5:59 am

  350. £20 a week extra for Universal Credit!

    Just look at what those nice MP’s awarded themselves,

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8206477/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-politicians-paid-money-cope-coronavirus.html

    Billy Boyne

    April 10, 2020 at 3:55 am

  351. Fears of food shortages unless an extra 40,000 people volunteer to pick crops for the £15-an-hour Land Army within weeks – amid warnings produce from abroad is also set to dry up because of travel bans, fewer flights and rising freight costs.- Daily Mail

    John H.

    April 10, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    • This is totally possible and why its always been essential the British people without falter always support by way of purchase, British produce.
      Its been a known fact for ages that if the rest of the world was closed off to us that we wouldn’t be able to sustain our populations needs in terms of food.
      This virus true or not has proven how volatile any country let alone us has become tied to a capitalist model chained to growth that by virtue has made businesses tender to the cheapest option often always placed elsewhere other than the consumer.

      Doug

      April 11, 2020 at 9:55 am

  352. Maybe that’s where Trev is, he’s joined the Land Army.

    Doing his bit for Queen and country.

    Billy Boyne

    April 10, 2020 at 7:06 pm

  353. jj joop

    April 11, 2020 at 10:53 am

  354. well i got my budgeting loan letter today and thats the fastest i have ever got one as normally takes about 2 weeks and got this in 3 days.

    i have also received a letter from the nhs pmsl as i have other health issues but the dwp dont give a shit so ill just put it in the bin.

    superted

    April 11, 2020 at 11:43 am

  355. Tory gutter rags claim martial law lockdown maybe permanent.

    Violet

    April 11, 2020 at 12:00 pm

  356. Violet

    April 11, 2020 at 12:58 pm

  357. Is this ‘virus’ real or what. And if it is real it sure isn’t the flu.

    ‘I thought because I was young it wouldn’t affect me’

    A Paisley man who is recovering from coronavirus has called on young people not to underestimate the impact the virus can have.

    Calum Wishart said when news of the pandemic first broke his “naive arrogance” led him to believe he would be OK because he is only 25-years-old.

    But within days of the lockdown Mr Wishart started displaying symptoms of the virus and was hospitalised.

    He described it as “the most horrendous experience”.

    Speaking to BBC Breakfast, he said: “I had the completely wrong attitude.

    “I would not say I was hugging strangers or anything like that, I think I just underestimated the real impact of it.

    “I had the perspective that because I was young it would not affect me, that it would be like a kind of flu.”

    Mr Wishart said he had a “massive dose of reality” when the gravity of his situation became clear after being rushed to Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and put on oxygen.

    He continued: “It started off as a slight fever and from there it escalated.

    “The next few days was just on and off oxygen and not being able to do anything.”

    The loss of his freedom of movement was the biggest impact and now, out of hospital and into self-isolation, he is using his time to try and make younger people aware that coronavirus can strike anyone.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-52254674

    Aggy

    April 11, 2020 at 2:08 pm

    • 39200 ppl would have died on avg for the month of march this year and is not far off the amount that died in march of 2019.

      the dwp on there own kills about 100k every 6 months on avg.

      i dont think cv19 is going to beat the dwp at this rate pmsl.

      the cure is way worse than the cause and will kill more over the years than any virus will.

      superted

      April 11, 2020 at 2:19 pm

      • Very true ted.

        Violet

        April 11, 2020 at 2:27 pm

      • deaths of great depression was in the millions because they starved to death no job no money no food.

        every day this so called lock down goes on the economy is being destroyed there will be mass unemployment for years to come as this is now 10 times worse than in 2009.

        now who is going to pay for all of this we will of course with our lives and massive tax rises in the years to come.

        you wont be paying 20% tax it will be 50% think about it and google you own numbers 😉

        and when the jcp opens back up it is going to be a fkn war zone so g4s will have to get up of there fat ass and do something for once.

        superted

        April 11, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    • And this coming from the almighty BBC, the very people who covered up the crimes of J. Saville.

      Violet

      April 11, 2020 at 2:25 pm

  358. So what would have been the result if the UK had gone down the quickly abandoned ‘herd immunity’ route? Had we had continued to go to work as normal. Had we continued to sign-on as normal. How many deaths due to Covid-19 would we be looking at? Higher? Lower? By how much?

    Sam

    April 11, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    • for a lock down like this id expect the numbers dead to be way higher than the daily avg of 1400.

      now if 10000 ppl were dropping down dead every day then there is a big problem and a lock down justified.

      cv19 is just a excuse and a piss poor one at that so i doubt the numbers that die wont go over the daily avg.

      and thats why every one dies from now on is because of cv19 errr bollocks.

      superted

      April 11, 2020 at 4:48 pm

      • @superted – Are you a Doctor ? This is a serious crisis. Don’t join David Icke in the fantasy zone.

        Alan Turner

        April 11, 2020 at 5:48 pm

  359. but the government does not give a shit about how many ppl are going to die just look at the dwp death toll.

    is that also a serious crisis and what is going to be done about it, nothing.

    now if i was a good little sheep and done what i was told id have been sanctioned to death buy now.

    i even have a nhs letter telling me not to go out but i carry on as normal anyway.

    i even got ran over yesterday crossing the road as some twat on a race bike could not slow down going the other way and kaboom.

    i got a broken ribb and a small cut on my finger and does not bother me at all. 😉

    superted

    April 11, 2020 at 6:08 pm

  360. Sorry to hear you’ve been injured, hope you get well soon.

    @Alan Turner – people used to laugh their heads off at Icke, he’s been predicting this global nwo police state coming for the past 30 years, NOBODY IS LAUGHING ANY MORE.

    WAKE UP.

    Violet

    April 11, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    • i thought it was funny tbh he bounced of me like a twig in to a crumpled pile on the floor he got up tried to ride away and as his front wheel was bent picked it up and ran away with it lmao.

      i broke my arm in 2 places and went to sign on b4 i went to the hospital it was black and blue and all my fingers was swollen up.

      and my work coach was of sick pmsl.

      and last year i had a problem with my blood so had to have blood transfusions and b12 injections and could have died from it, did i sign off sick nope.

      i did not miss one appointment and completed my job search as normal.

      and did they find out what was wrong nope not got a clue as the b12 injections was my idea and blood tests were useless.

      i now take vitamins so to boost my immune system and to date i have not seen 1 news item saying to do this.

      why? is that not best best defence against a virus in the first place.

      https://health.clevelandclinic.org/3-vitamins-best-boosting-immunity/

      superted

      April 11, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    • There is no f¥cking covid 19 virus, so how can a vaccine be made for a virus that doesn’t exist… Go on David Icke.com and listen to what he has to say, unless you are quite happy to sleepwalk into your dystopian future!

      Tigerlily

      April 11, 2020 at 7:53 pm

    • Don’t be tempted to go out this Easter Bank Holiday, people warned,

      its certainly overstepping these headlines,their trying to enforce this as they see it and will probably get much worse.

      ken

      April 11, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    • @ Violet – David Icke is a deluded man, who has made a very profitable business out of his conspiracy books and lectures. Up to a point it might even be amusing. But it is you, and other trolls posting on here ‘Violet’, who need to wake up to reality. You must have very empty and sad lives to be posting your pointless nonsense, while the country undergoes this dreadful crisis.

      Alan Turner

      April 11, 2020 at 8:29 pm

      • was 2009 a crisis also when banks went bust what did we do to fix it. 10 years of cuts to everything esp the nhs ect remember doctors threats to go on strike lol

        what did we do borrow 3 times more the national debt than it was in 2009 and how much did we pay off the debt in that time £0

        it has to end at some point and this could be that braking point and been coming for some time now.

        the virus is just the excuse they are using to solve a problem ie the uk is bankrupt.

        can you live off a unlimited credit card your hole life and just pay the interest, good luck with that pmsl

        superted

        April 11, 2020 at 8:48 pm

      • Dear Alan I have woken up to the reality that we are living in a POLICE STATE – it is not nonsense at all, it is bloody frightening.

        Violet

        April 11, 2020 at 9:20 pm

      • superted

        April 11, 2020 at 9:40 pm

      • And you Turner are a muppet, a brainwashed sheeple who laps up all the bullshit churned out by the fakestream media… Yes there is a dreadful crisis going on in this country, but it’s nothing to do do with the fake virus!

        Tigerlily

        April 11, 2020 at 9:50 pm

      • superted

        April 12, 2020 at 2:18 pm

      • There are problems with other health issues as well as Covid-19,dentists are not seeing patients’ exept in extream cases but thats not even certain,locally their telling their patients that won’t be to at least June,instead they are telling people to purchase kit dressings from Tesco,of course there isn’t any or anywhere else but Ebay where £8 kits are being sold for £25 plus and buyers are in some cases forced overseas.

        That year of claim isn’t far off,theres no end to this and I hope it doesn’t get taken out on the long term unemployed and or disabled who paid with their hides as before.

        ken

        April 16, 2020 at 6:59 pm

  361. superted

    April 11, 2020 at 8:02 pm

    • Good video, I like ickes little flat it’s very compact & bijou 😁

      Violet

      April 12, 2020 at 4:48 pm

  362. They keep saying they are waiiting for the peak, easy way to keep us in limbo, the peak is never coming cause this virus is a scam.

    Goverment has never cared about the unemployed, so I doubt they will be rushing to save us with their scam vaccine

    big bird

    April 11, 2020 at 8:34 pm

  363. Good for you Alan Turner. I completely agree with you. It’s about time someone on here put the facts about David Icke and his conspiracy theories. I don’t think he really believes much of the stuff he writes. But it makes good money. And there is always some idiot ready to take it all at face value.

    Malcolm G.

    April 12, 2020 at 5:32 am

  364. I think it is these half-literate ranting posts, by people clearly struggling with mental confusion, that is the worst aspect of this blog. Idiotic. false female names. Pointless baiting of the few serious contributors. A shame really, as this could be a much better blog if these trolls and trouble makers were excluded.

    John Mortimer

    April 12, 2020 at 5:40 am

  365. Coronavirus crisis is ‘exposing critical gaps in the UK’s welfare safety net’

    New Economics Foundation calls for a £221 per week ‘minimum income guarantee’.

    Up to 5.6 million workers are at high risk of losing their jobs or hours and being unable to access the support they need, according to new analysis published by the New Economics Foundation

    https://welfareweekly.com/coronavirus-crisis-exposing-critical-gaps-in-the-uks-welfare-safety-net/

    ken

    April 12, 2020 at 8:20 am

  366. …………………..IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE BEST TIME TO DITCH YOUR BBC TV LICENSE, THE TIME IS NOW!

    Everyone is fully aware that the BBC is just another government propaganda channel that specialises in fake news in order to keep the poor, much poorer……

    Turn on your screens any time of day or night and watch the BBC chosen ones jet setting to all corners of the globe whilst blasting your license fees like confetti.

    Today the BBC was acting on behalf of one of the world’s richest men, BILL GATES………….

    GATES was given a golden opportunity to peddle the idea of a vaccine that everybody on the planet must take in order to fend off pandemics.

    The trouble is that BILL GATES is peddling his own sweets that stand to make him far richer than he already is.
    Google the BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION and you will find more links to the present outbreak than you could ever imagine.

    We live in a world where nothing is what it seems……..

    A world where the very covert rich can manufacture and disperse a lethal batch of a laboratory refined virus and then claim to have the vaccine to fix it.

    Imagine a scenario where world governments mandate you to have to take a vaccine in order to be able to leave your state of home arrest or self isolating as they like to call it?

    This is exactly the master plan that the world governing bodies want to hit you with. Take your medicine and you will be free………..

    WHAT BOLLOCKS!!!

    You will be able to resume your work and be issued with a health passport that clearly states you have taken your medicine. You will nee a health passport to claim benefits. Persons who do not submit will be kept inside and ridiculed by those who were daft enough to accept the kiss of death…………..

    …………………..One thing i did pick up from the BBC/BILL GATES/VACCINE sales pitch is something GATES said…………….

    ”in order to produce the vaccine in haste to satisfy the world demand, elements of safety may be cut and nobody knows the repercussions a few years down the line”

    Forgive me for being thick but could we see our own political leaders pushing the shit into their own bodies before putting up us sacrificial lambs to the slaughter.

    PREPARE FOR AN EARLY GRAVE

    Clare Brooks

    April 12, 2020 at 10:49 am

    • Food poverty is hitting millions during lockdown

      Millions of people in Britain are going hungry during the coronavirus crisis, according to new research.

      It shows the effects of government failure and that catastrophic falls in income have pushed many families into poverty during the lockdown.

      The sharp rise in food poverty is being driven by people being left isolated without support and a lack of money as millions of workers are newly unemployed, furloughed—laid off—or dependent on government support.

      https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/49876/Food+poverty+is+hitting+millions+during+lockdown

      ken

      April 12, 2020 at 5:11 pm

  367. THE GREAT 5G / VIRUS CONSPIRACY

    ……………FORGIVE ME FOR BEING THICK BUT OFCOM RECEIVED JUST 19 COMPLAINTS ABOUT DAVID ICKE’S REFERENCES TO HARMFUL RADIATION WAVES AND THE PRESENT VIRUS……………..

    YET NEARLY 5 MILLION HAVE WATCHED IT!!!

    YOU CAN TELL WHEN THE DEEP STATE IS RATTLED WHEN YOUTUBE, VIMEO AND OFCOM DECIDE TO TO CENSOR WHAT MANY ARE THINKING…….

    NO OFFICIAL TESTS HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO THE LAUNCH OF 5G AND THE AMOUNT OF RADIATION REQUIRED WOULD DEFINITELY BE HARMFUL TO HUMANS OVER A PROLONGED PERIOD.

    IF SMALL AMOUNTS OF RADIATION CAN CAUSE MUTATIONS IN LABORATORY ANIMALS AND GIVE LEUKEMIA TO HUMANS, WHAT LONG TERM EFFECTS WILL IT HAVE ON US AND OUR KIDS?

    RADIO WAVES ARE USED TO COOK OUR FOODS, OPEN GARAGE DOORS, RING DOORBELLS AND GIVE US COMPUTER AND HANDPHONE CONNECTIONS BUT ARE THEY HEALTHY?

    NO STUDIES ARE FORTHCOMING BECAUSE THOSE WHO FLOG THE PRODUCTS ALSO PAY BILLIONS IN LOBBYING FEES FOR GOVERNMENTS TO TURN A BLIND EYE.

    DAVID ICKE IS ONTO SOMETHING AND THE WAY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS REACTED PROVES HE HAS A POINT.

    MANY COMPLAINED OF SEVERE HEADACHES WHEN RADAR WAS FIRST INTRODUCED YET NOBODY DID ANY REAL RESEARCH INTO IT. I WONDER WHY?

    FERTILITY IS DROPPING AT AN ALARMING RATE AND MEN’S SPERM COUNTS DECREASING BY THE DECADE.

    WHAT IS IT THAT THEY ARE AFRAID YOU WILL FIND OUT?

    COULD OFCOM BE THE LINK TO YOUR CHILDS ILLNESS?

    PREPARE FOR AN EARLY GRAVE

    Clare Brooks

    April 12, 2020 at 10:59 am

  368. Bill Gates flatly refused to get his own children vaccinated because he knows what’s in them, he is not a doctor, no medical training whatsoever and is not a virologist, so what gives him the god given right to insist everyone on the planet gets vaxed? .

    Answer:Mr Gates thinks he is God.

    Violet

    April 12, 2020 at 11:51 am

    • That psychopath should get its own wig in order before it starts telling us what to do… Mind you, there is a few dorks on here who will be only to Willing to line up for their covidiot vaccine!

      Tigerlily

      April 12, 2020 at 12:30 pm

  369. I haven’t even got a passport, they can keep their vaccine passport

    big bird

    April 12, 2020 at 4:01 pm

  370. OPERATION FUCK YOU OVER BIG STYLE IS NOW ON THE CARDS…

    Now that the governments of the world clamour to treat everyone like shit by merely classifying every death to be related to a virus they think they have your attention by instilling you with fear.

    Tomorrow will be martial law as dumb BORIS walks around the palatial grounds of Chequers as you are driven crazy by your kids in a high rise bedsit.

    Not happy with running illegal facial recognition software, the government now want to issue you with a health passport as they hob nob with silicon valley to eavesdrop on your electrical goods at their leisure.

    ” WHAT WERE YOU DOING IN THE NEXT TOWN AT 10.47 AM ON THE 2ND OF MAY PURCHASING THREE TOILETS ROLLS THAT WERE QUILTED?”

    ……………….” YOUR HONOUR, WOULD IT NOT MAKE SENSE TO HAND DOWN THE STRICTEST POSSIBLE SENTENCE, FINE HER AND MAKE AN APPLICATION TO HAVE HER FREEDOM REVOKED AS A LESSON TO THOSE THINKING OF BREAKING THE HOUSE ARREST………………………SORRY I MEAN 24 HOUR LOCK DOWN?”

    CONTROL IS WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT, THE VIRUS A FICTION OF WARPED MINDS TO STAY IN POWER.’

    PREPARE FOR AN EARLY GRAVE.

    Clare Brooks

    April 12, 2020 at 9:00 pm

  371. Anyone on here bothering with their job search?

    jj joop

    April 13, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    • of course i am mostly customer service and sales adviser rolls.lmao 😉

      superted

      April 13, 2020 at 3:16 pm

      • info@360resourcing.co.uk
        Wed 08/04/2020 11:42
        Hi

        We just got your application for the role of Sales Consultant with Furniture Village, job reference: RB198058CheSC.

        Even though this is just an automated confirmation email, you should know that we’re truly excited about you wanting to move to the Village!

        We’ll get back to you as soon as we can. We get a huge amount of applications, and we look at them all to give everyone fair consideration – so it may take a few days (or sometimes a week for really popular roles!).

        All the best,

        FOLLOWING RECENT GUIDELINES ALL OUR STORES ARE TEMPORARILY CLOSED
        We will be reviewing the situation regularly and we look forward to welcoming you back in store soon

        superted

        April 13, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    • Yeah, just the odd one now and again. But something to show them when we have to get back signing.

      Rob

      April 13, 2020 at 4:23 pm

  372. I’m on universal chaos & have a message on my account telling me there is no requirement for me to do any job search but……… I’m still going to do it & apply for any appropriate vacancies that are available because……. I DON’T BLOODY TRUST THOSE EVIL ********.

    Violet

    April 13, 2020 at 4:48 pm

    • @Violet

      Take a screenshot just to cover yourself, if I were you.

      jj joop

      April 13, 2020 at 6:02 pm

      • I always do jj been doing it for ages 🙃 how are you coping with the Lockdown? It feels more like house arrest to me.

        Violet

        April 13, 2020 at 6:28 pm

      • As far as being locked in goes, it’s just another day in paradise as far as I’m concerned. I live in a village in the arsehole of no where. When I look out of the window, I just see trees and fields.

        jj joop

        April 13, 2020 at 7:21 pm

      • I’m applying stlll,my WS1 is nearly full so another sheet.This virus is everywhere speaking to a friend in Devon his sister works on a ward with people with it and several have died from the virus.

        Theres people walking around with coughs in Aldi,its probably nothing but a worry given the times.

        ken

        April 13, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    • I dont trust them either

      my_final_username

      April 14, 2020 at 3:08 pm

  373. It’s going to be difficult to get any job with the 1980s style unemployment coming up. What realistic prospect of employment older legacy claimants are going to have is arguable.

    Paul G.

    April 13, 2020 at 4:57 pm

  374. i did ask to sign on once a year just b4 Christmas i guess any one thats been claiming long term will just get pushed to the bottom of the pile.

    superted

    April 13, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    • i have a nokia 3310 😉

      superted

      April 13, 2020 at 5:22 pm

      • I have a Nokia 1100 made in 2003 and still going strong. Sweet!

        jj joop

        April 14, 2020 at 10:47 am

  375. I have a smart phone thinking about ditching it 🙃

    Violet

    April 13, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    • I had a message at the GP’s saying “in the interest of your safety please register for the NHS App” with a link,mines a Nokia 1200 grey screen phone,will be using the repeat form.

      The lockdown is in tatters traffic is up to normal weekday level locally and people are ignoring it going out,it looks like this is being overplayed to take of control people by the government.

      ken

      April 21, 2020 at 11:32 am

      • Seems your GP is “concerned for your safety”, ken 😉 Just like with the filth it’s always “for your own safety” 😉 Is this the Google tracking app? You would have to be nuts to have anything to do with those Google guys.

        The Dukes of Hazzard

        April 21, 2020 at 11:57 am

      • It seems like a few public executions are in order to concentrate the minds of any potential transgressors. What do you think, ken?

        Matthew Hopkins

        April 21, 2020 at 12:07 pm

  376. Jen Smithson
    Mon 13/04/2020 18:25
    Good afternoon

    Thank you for your application.

    We are recruiting for our direct sales teams across the UK.

    We have a couple of different campaigns running at the moment.

    The first involves door to door sales on our own DWM energy comparison service helping customers to switch their energy supplier to a cheaper deal. Think of the energy comparison websites, that’s exactly what we do but face to face. We work with 7 different suppliers so we should have a suitable option for every customer you meet.

    We also have teams working for the ever popular Octopus Energy on our door to door campaign and we are about to launch another exciting doorstep campaign with one of the “Big 6” energy suppliers too.

    Don’t fancy knocking on doors? We have another sales opportunity which involves working in supermarkets and shopping centres on a stand promoting Scottish Power energy tariffs and boiler care packages. Again this supplier is very competitively priced and there’s always added incentives / competitions on the stand to help you sell.

    Most roles offer a basic salary, excellent commission structure, full training and support plus rapid career progression for those that want it.

    Earnings of over £1000 per week are easily achievable with all of our vacancies.

    All we ask is that you’re motivated, confident and keen to earn some big money. If you would like to meet us for an informal interview please supply us with an up to date phone number and let us know which vacancy you are interested in. We will be in touch.

    Regards

    Jen Smithson
    Direct Sales Recruitment
    Don’t Waste Money

    On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:37, jobsite@jobsitemail.co.uk wrote:

    im sure pc plod is going to be ok with that one lmfao!

    superted

    April 13, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    • I did a job search to day for the first time in seven days. Found four jobs to apply for that I could do, two of them were part time.

      jj joop

      April 14, 2020 at 6:54 pm

  377. Where is the Hidden Master ?

    Seeker

    April 14, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    • I take it you mean Andrew Coates. I’ve looked in the announcements section of the Ipswich Star for the last several weeks and there is no mention of him passing.

      jj joop

      April 14, 2020 at 7:01 pm

      • Will check the fridges for any sign of Coates 😉

        Ipswich Mortuary Attendant

        April 17, 2020 at 3:24 am

    • Indeed Seeker,

      Its now been over a month since he last posted.
      I would like to think he grew tied of battling the system, looking after relatives and so forth but its hard not to think maybe he has succumbed to the worst considering all our current predicament.
      Its simply just not like him to be silent .

      Doug

      April 17, 2020 at 9:42 am

  378. superted

    April 14, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    • Disastrous interview for Coffey. As they say, ‘ Failing To Prepare Is Preparing To Fail .’

      Tom Sutton

      April 14, 2020 at 8:48 pm

  379. This should be happening here.

    A worker checks the temperature of a customer at the entrance of a supermarket in Turin

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/eu-countries-coronavirus-lockdown-italy-spain

    ken

    April 14, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    • And perhaps also people should be wearing masks when out in public ? I know the UK scientists have not recommended this, but most other countries are doing this routinely now. It may not be 100% effective, but it certainly is still better than not wearing a mask.

      Jack Reid

      April 15, 2020 at 9:29 am

      • I think masks would probably be a good idea. But there aren’t enough masks for the medics never mind the general public.

        Dave

        April 15, 2020 at 11:49 am

  380. Same with social distancing. There isn’t the room in most shops for the customers to stand 6 foot apart. So you end up with people in a queue about 2 foot apart.

    Gerry

    April 15, 2020 at 9:37 am

  381. Violet

    April 15, 2020 at 11:23 am

    • Excellent video….. This crow19 hoax is just getting f¥cking ridiculous now!

      Tigerlily

      April 15, 2020 at 11:54 am

  382. Coronavirus: DWP explores hiring Universal Credit claimants to help process surge in claims for the benefit

    the DWP was planning to recruit 5,000 more staff to deal with demand during a media briefing on Wednesday, Neil Couling, Director General and Senior Responsible Owner for Universal Credit, said: “Jobcentres are looking out for claimants they think… will have the skills necessary to come in and get trained.

    i bet they wont ask me to join there gang lmao 😉 and 200000 ppl have made claims for esa and new style jsa so id bet there going to be pissed when all they get is73.10 in there bank accounts even tho it can only be claimed if you have been working for the last 2 years.

    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2020/04/14/a-dwp-fatal-flaw-could-spell-disaster-for-1-4-million-people/

    superted

    April 15, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    • @superted – The DWP could save a substantial amount of money on welfare costs, if they introduced Universal Basic Income. This has been proved time and time again. But the Tories won’t touch UBI with a barge-pole, because they think it will make people give up working. So instead we have the wretched system of Universal Credit.

      Jeff Smith

      April 15, 2020 at 10:08 pm

      • uc is finished there is no way they can carry on with it as it is as it is made to destroy ppl and get them in to any old job or sanctioned.

        problem is there wont be any jobs for them to apply for in the first place so good lick with a 35hr job search per week let alone the rest of it.

        Coronavirus: Worst economic crisis since 1930s depression, IMF says

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52236936

        The Spanish flu, also known as the 1918 flu pandemic, was an unusually deadly
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

        Coronaviruses were first discovered in the 1930s
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

        What caused the crash of 1929?
        By then, production had already declined and unemployment had risen, leaving stocks in great excess of their real value. Among the other causes of the stock market crash of 1929 were low wages, the proliferation of debt, a struggling agricultural sector and an excess of large bank loans that could not be liquidated.

        we can kill 50 million ppl anyway and we still go bust buy debt and low wages wtf has changed lol bar the piss poor cv19 death numbers.

        superted

        April 15, 2020 at 10:39 pm

      • I can’t see them handing out a UBI with no strings Jeff, there are bound to be conditions.

        Violet

        April 16, 2020 at 6:02 am

  383. Dear Superted,

    As manager of Gloucester Jobcentre I would like to invite you to join us here as a member of staff.
    You have long been an esteemed claimant of ours, and we know to our cost, your considerable knowledge of employment law and departmental procedure.
    We watched in admiration during your appearances at the employment tribunal.
    That confident professional manner, that keen intelligence,always ready with the right answer.
    Frankly Superted, you were impressive, and we knew at once that we were simply outclassed.
    I know you have no reason to love the DWP, but would you, could you, possibly consider joining us
    here at the Jobcentre ?

    Jobcentre Manager

    April 15, 2020 at 10:28 pm

  384. Give ‘ted a job in the sanctioning department.

    Billy Boyne

    April 16, 2020 at 2:03 am

  385. I see they have had to fly in a jet plane of Romanians to pick UK fruit. Not suprising really, if they charge the workers £50 per week each out of their meagre earnings to sleep 4 to a caravan ! That is the way they keep the actual wages they pay out to a minimum, It’s unashamed cheap labour.

    Pete

    April 16, 2020 at 10:52 am

  386. “It sounded so good that we’ve actually had some people calling in asking, ‘Why is everybody in the same studio? They should be socially distancing’,” the BBC’s director of radio and education, James Purnell, told Radio 4’s Feedback.

    Is this the same James Purnell who wanted to boil down the unemployed into glue?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52283344

    Rose

    April 17, 2020 at 3:17 am

  387. poignant isn’t it that the mass movement of people from country to country brings us to where we are now.

    Doug

    April 17, 2020 at 10:14 am

    • All being played out on the Grand Chessboard. And it is also poignant that if you had voiced objections to the mass movement of people from one country to another you would have been decried as ‘racist’. That is how they get you. And if Coates was still in the land of the living he would delete your poignant comment. But as usual when the shit hits the fan the ‘useful idiots’ who were instrumental in creating the problem, forwarding the agenda – hey. it’s cool to ‘virtue signal’ – are no where to be seen.

      Viola

      April 17, 2020 at 10:37 am

      • Thats just the thing though, racism has absolutely nothing to do with it, never did.
        If a person goes on holiday thats economics for the country they go to, if a person moves to another country, thats also economics both for the person, the potential employer and of course the government.

        Whats the concern now on the backside of this virus ?

        If it isnt then why the lockdown, why say only go to work if you cant work from home, why implement furlough, why not let natural selection play out.

        Doug

        April 17, 2020 at 12:03 pm

      • What are you saying, doug? That we should just let the infirm take the hit? The thing is that nobody wants to take the hit. Round here all the pubs and hairdressers were shut as soon as there was a sniff of this coronavirus, like a fortnight before the Government order. If you look at various forums, groups etc. you will see that the elderly and disabled are hell-bent on staying alive. They are well ‘prepared’ with a dozen freezers stocked full of food. And hell mend you since you haven’t ‘prepared’. You won’t be getting any of their ‘stash’. Of course you need to be on disability benefits to afford this level of ‘preparedness’. Huge chest freezers and huge online shops are not cheap. These odious fuckers see themselves as in a special 20% group who must be protected at all costs whilst the 80% take their chances. Like the Government wants to kill off all the young, healthy workers and leave only elderly and disabled people alive sat in their four bedroomed homes filled with food. Who would be left to pay for their ‘disability’ benefits? Wouldn’t their ‘depression’, ‘anxiety’ and ‘stress’ be exacerbated? These selfish bastards are so stupid that they think the shops will be empty and blood will spill on the streets, but their lives will continue on as normal with no interruption to their goods or services as they work their way through their freezers full of Magnum ice-creams. They want to come out alive as others die; a worthwhile sacrifice in their warped minds. Should we instead sacrifice these selfish fuckers and leave them to die? Disabled, elderly, whatever, this coronavirus has taught us once again that when the chips are down it is each man, woman and dog for themselves.

        Boffy

        April 17, 2020 at 1:28 pm

      • Heres the thing though Boffy,

        Not every old or disabled/ill person is dying from this virus. Infact not even a significant portion either and it has nothing to do with the lockdown affording protection as i see them outside as much as i see other groups of people.

        You have to put all this into context rather than be beguiled by the ratio of deaths in relation to testing positive. Now we havent tested everyone and we arent seeing bodies being taken from houses in all our streets everyday as if we were, it would be all over the internet. You also cant compare to last year as traffic,work and domestic deaths are way down.
        Remember this virus has been going on since last year, how long before we will have to wait and see if china own up. The virus has had more than ample time to devastate a population yet mysteriously it has not.
        This would suggest ones immune response/antibodies are the major deciding factor which would also explain younger deaths with no underlying heath issues.

        Moving on the rush to buy every piece of food,fluid and hygiene consumable has been over for near around 3 weeks now, i have no problem getting anything from any place selling these items. Even restrictions on amount of per item have also been lifted.

        So stop reading to much into this as even stress and anxiety can lower your immune system.

        Doug

        April 18, 2020 at 9:29 am

    • It was bound to happen; it was only a matter of time. An inevitably. Coates like the rest of us, unless we are a Viking God wasn’t immortal. Life is part of death, it is just that we don’t like to talk about it. RIP Andrew Coates, A Fighter that Lost. Better to die on your feet than live forever on your knees.

      Ragnar Lodbrok

      April 17, 2020 at 11:37 am

      • Ælla of Northumbria sorted you out.

        Billy Boyne

        April 17, 2020 at 7:05 pm

  388. You will never believe what the government just let slip.

    Violet

    April 17, 2020 at 11:36 am

  389. It’s unbelievable that after all the deaths and destruction of this coronavirus pandemic, the Chinese have re-opened the Wuhan wildlife market ! The absolute minimum should have been this dreadful market closed down. And an end to selling protected animal species in this manner. And an official apology.
    If this was any other country but China, massive sanctions would now be imposed as a punishment. And the international community would seek financial compensation. But the Chinese have now become so powerful that no-one wants to risk upsetting them.

    Tom Sutton

    April 17, 2020 at 1:22 pm

  390. ‘Chinese officials have recently stated that the regime will take advantage of the coronavirus pandemic to build a “Health Silk Road.” This should serve as a big wakeup call to all. A world under China would be a nightmare. This is the same China that has forced political dissidents and Uighur Muslims into re-education camps, a country that has managed to disseminate a pandemic that is killing and sickening thousands
    across the globe, all the while decimating economies everywhere. And now, China wants to “help” the world get out of the mess that it created in the first place.

    Make no mistake — the Chinese are manipulating the coronavirus outbreak as the perfect opportunity to make themselves look like the good guys, undermine the role of the U.S. as the global first responder, and emerge as a world superpower in a way that nobody would have foreseen.’ The Hill (USA)

    Kenny

    April 17, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    • Make of this what you will but do you realize if the whole worlds leaders got together and posed the question “how can we change the way all people live and behave” that a virus would suit the bill. Do you know also that considering the worlds shameful reliance on china that they are the only country in the world that could declare a disease and quite literally get away with it.

      Now im not advocating this but it is none the less no without merit.

      Doug

      April 18, 2020 at 9:35 am

      • the dwp kill more ppl and that is going to go up big time but i have not changed anything i do day to day and job search is still getting done.

        the jobs are not real tho as the places are not even open but still plenty of jobs being posted online every day lmao.

        imo it will be total chaos when the jcp opens back up and then the sanctions will begin like lambs to the slaughter.

        superted

        April 18, 2020 at 12:47 pm

      • @superted – But what about the amnesty on sanctions and jobsearching ? Surely you don’t believe the DWP are going to go back on their word when the Jobcentres re-open ? ( If they do ).

        Simon

        April 18, 2020 at 1:26 pm

      • dwp make up there own rules as they go along and it does say if you have the means to still job search ie you have home internet then you should still try to job search.

        remember they have not ruled out sanctions all together so there is still a risk, they can not be trusted.

        superted

        April 18, 2020 at 1:52 pm

      • and dont forget there is no time limit for them to drop a sanction on you it can be 3 or 6 months later they drop one on you.

        it is why i keep a record of everything 😉

        superted

        April 18, 2020 at 2:02 pm

      • they can not be trusted.

        Theres very few people in life you can trust superted,NHS staff did it for me trusting anyone.

        ken

        April 18, 2020 at 5:18 pm

  391. BRI = Belt and Road Initiative = New World Order.

    Violet

    April 18, 2020 at 7:39 am

  392. This OFCOM report blows the Ickeman out of the water:

    Click to access emf-test-summary.pdf

    Ofcom

    April 18, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    • What if David Icke himself is being mind-controlled by the Reptilian Aliens ? And he is just the helpless puppet of these cruel beings from Alpha Draconis ? And what if he is not making up these theories, the aliens are, and then putting them into his subconscious ?

      Garry

      April 18, 2020 at 1:32 pm

      • @Garry, Now that would be crafty. Put up a human who goes on about conspiracy theories, aliens and all the rest of it. But all the time the aliens are controlling every word of it. So they can conceal the truth of their alien plans, while at the same time pretending to discredit them. Like the UFO situation.

        Paul

        April 18, 2020 at 1:51 pm

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    Ofcom

    April 18, 2020 at 1:06 pm

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    Ofcom

    April 18, 2020 at 1:14 pm

  395. Peers demand their daily £323 ‘attendance’ fee to log into virtual Lords claiming not paying would be age discrimination . So, can I have £323 for logging into my Find A Job account ?

    Dave Blunt

    April 18, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    • No Dave you cannot. And can I suggest that you turn your attention to jobsearching ?

      Therese

      April 18, 2020 at 5:24 pm

  396. Decision not to raise legacy benefits in line with UC through COVID-19

    It was recently announced by the Chancellor that the base rate for Universal Credit would be raised to match Statutory Sick Pay in rate.

    Please :

    – advise whether or not this increase was made on the request or advice of the DWP?
    – advise if the DWP made a similar request for an increase in ESA, JSA and/or Income Support?
    – provide copies of any internal guidance or discussion regarding the increase and the decision not to raise the above legacy benefits in line with Universal Credit.

    Yours faithfully,

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/decision_not_to_raise_legacy_ben

    superted

    April 18, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    • Very wrong that the legacy claimants have been left out of the increase. But it wouldn’t suprise me if this was deliberate DWP policy. They see the reaming legacy claimants, particularly the JSA, as hanging-on deliberately instead of transferring to Universal Credit. And the DWP don’t want to be seen to reward this.

      Tom Sutton

      April 18, 2020 at 5:19 pm

      • it would make no difference at all if i was on uc rules are the same, bar the pay lol.

        the only difference for me to every one else would be i wont have the on line journal as i will have a non digital uc claim.

        and dont forget 1000s have been put on new style jsa that can only be claimed if you had been working for 2 years in contributions and will get the same jsa as i do it is bang out of order as you are worse of if you have paid in to the system and put in a jsa claim or more like told to over the phone.

        superted

        April 18, 2020 at 5:40 pm

      • @Superted – Don’t forget 35 Hour Jobsearch on Universal Credit. And you can be made to apply for part-time and zero-hours work. ( Unlike on old-style JSA ) Plus you have to do any ‘work preparation’ or training courses that the Jobcentre asks you to do. Plus attend any interviews they ask you to go to.
        I have never known anyone transfer to Universal Credit from JSA voluntarily. It’s always change of circumstances. Or someone has taken a job that finished unexpectedly, and they have to come back on Universal Credit.

        Jack Reid

        April 18, 2020 at 10:51 pm

      • @superted

        An annotation was made to the following.

        Maintaining a non digital CC
        https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/maintainng_a_non_digital_cc

        jj joop

        April 19, 2020 at 7:28 am

      • there is no 35hr job search it is a expectation i allready apply for zero hr jobs ie all of them and i wont be sent on any courses because i can not be forced to enter in to contracts with 3rd party’s i never even done the work programme and that was 10 years ago.

        i have not had to stay at any provider since and i have taken the dwp to tribunal over this and they lost.

        and the dwp tried to enforce the 35hr job search and lost at upper tribunal as buy law you need to take at least 3 steps per week to find employment.

        so like i said it will make no difference to me on uc it will just be a name change.

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 10:56 am

      • the main point here is a email address as with out one they can not set up the journal and game over as buy law this is my personnel data and can not be forced and must be given of free will.

        i dont even give them a phone number 😉

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 11:04 am

  397. Their still sending out Jobseekers Allowance “Annual Verification Of Your Claim” letters one arrived this morning and this will have to be posted back another trip.

    ken

    April 18, 2020 at 5:14 pm

    • i had one as well a couple of months ago cant really see the point when i sign on every 2 weeks imo just another thing to try trip ppl up and you know what happens if they dont get that back 😉

      superted

      April 18, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    • They’ve got a damn cheek after they cut the £20 out !

      Colin Claimant

      April 18, 2020 at 5:26 pm

  398. They shouldn’t have pointed people onto Universal Credit given the crisis at the moment,its a disaster feeding a disaster.Since this surfaced today it’s raised alarm bells for the country, its direction including employment.

    https://archive.is/20200418182037/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh

    ken

    April 19, 2020 at 10:48 am

  399. @Superted – Tom Sutton is quite right. I’m on Universal Credit, and I can tell you for a fact that the 35 Hour Jobsearch is a required condition. Either in terms of actual jobsearch, or reduced if you are voilunteering or on a training course. It’s not an ‘expectation’ at all. It’s a central part of Universal Credit. Don’t give people false information on this blog.

    John Markham

    April 19, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    • https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/what_does_35_hours_jobsearch_mea

      Availability for Work

      General tailoring, reasonableness and work search

      Regardless of the number of hours the claimant is expected to be
      available for, work search requirements should always be tailored to
      the individual claimant. The work search activities expected of
      claimants need to take account of their capability, regardless of
      whether the claimant is expected to look for full-time work or has
      restrictions. Not all claimants will be able to undertake the same
      amount of activity during the same period of time. Work coaches will
      need to judge what is reasonable to expect of the claimant, based on
      their knowledge of the claimant and their capability.

      like i said it is a expectation if you have a page full of jobs you have applied for each week the time taken does not matter.

      they can only raise a sanction doubt for not actively seeking employment ie job applications and proof of them.

      the dwp has tried to enforce the 35hr job search and lost at upper tribunal.

      the 35hr job search is nothing new as i have a cc from 10 years ago with it on there so it is nothing new.

      you also do not have to sign any providers paperwork/contracts and i have taken the dwp to tribunal over this my self and they lost and 2 members off staff was sacked over it.

      just dont believe the bull shit dwp staff tell you but can you stand up to them like i do as many cant or wont.;)

      superted

      April 19, 2020 at 3:23 pm

      • Time spent on work search which is less than the
        claimant’s expected hours of work
        J3075 There will be times where a claimant has spent less time on work search than their
        expected hours of work. In such cases, where a claimant has taken all reasonable
        action to find paid work, then the work search requirement is satisfied1
        . What all
        reasonable action will be will depend on the claimant’s circumstances.
        1 UC Regs, reg 95(1)(a)(ii)

        Click to access admj3.pdf

        read it you might learn something 😉

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 3:35 pm

  400. By the nine cycles of Keros,
    Through the golden gate of Abazin,
    Under the eye of the great spirit Thermistes,
    I summon you Andrew Coates !
    Ipsissimus of Ipswich,
    Known as the Hidden Master,
    Be present again upon this blog.
    I conjure you, appear again !
    In the name of the sacred Alphabet of Light,
    And the Three Guardians of The Golden Crystal,
    Appear ! Appear ! Appear !
    As it is written in the Eternal Scroll,
    So I enact and give power to this conjuration,
    Eternis and Ultimatus !

    Xylanthius

    April 19, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    • @xylanthius. A powerful conjuration brother, I felt a disturbance in the etheric realm as it was pronounced.
      But I caution against revealing our skills in this profane place.

      Zephirus

      April 19, 2020 at 6:20 pm

  401. Example
    Zac is in receipt of UC and is subject to all work-related requirements. Zac’s
    claimant commitment records that he is looking for office work and retail work. He is
    a keen video gamer and spends a considerable amount of time playing these
    games at home and at friends’ houses. Ideally, Zac would like to be a games
    designer and says that the time spent playing games is good experience and could
    help him get paid work. There is no evidence that Zac has applied for any jobs in
    that field and there is no evidence that Zac’s time spent playing games has made
    him more attractive to any would be employer. The time that Zac spends playing
    video games does not help him to satisfy the work search requirement.

    now if zac went on total jobs ect and done a few job application a day this would cover his ass and only take 5 mins each day.

    zac told this to his work coach and said what you going to do about it then as i have job applications to cover the work search requirement.

    game over!

    superted

    April 19, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  402. @Superted : The 35 Hour Jobsearch is a basic part of Universal Credit. As @tom sutton and @ john markham have quite rightly said. So is the requirement to undertake part-time and zero-hours work. Yes, the 35 Hour jobsearch can be reduced in certain circumstances, or offset against other activities. And all this is done in agreement with your Work Coach. But you are misleading people when you start claiming that there is no such thing as a 35 Work Search.

    Jeff Smith

    April 19, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    • well there is a 35hr job search if you are that stupid to believe it as long as you can prove you are applying for jobs the time taken does not matter as they can not raise a sanction doubt if you have proof of the jobs applied for.

      if you spend 35hr a week job searching and wright all of this down and dont apply for any jobs you will be sanctioned.

      this is my work search. 1 page for each week.
      DSC_0052

      do you really think they would try a sanction for not doing 35hr a week job search no chance because they will loose at a tribunal as i have met my work search requirement under law so the time taken does not matter.

      everything on that cc bar looking and applying for work is a expectation the cc is not even a legal contract it is just a piece of paper.

      i should know as they have tried 28 times to sanction me and never got one to stick.

      superted

      April 19, 2020 at 5:42 pm

  403. I’ll spend 35 hours each week looking and preparing for work – Universal Credit

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/cy/request/ill_spend_35_hours_each_week_loo

    5. The Appellant duly signed her “Claimant Commitment”, a 5-page (and for the most part standard form) document which began with the positively Stakhanovite statement that “I’ll do everything I can to get paid work, and will receive Universal Credit payments to support me in this.

    Click to access CUC_1808_2017-00.pdf

    ken

    April 19, 2020 at 5:15 pm

  404. @superted: ‘The dwp has tried to enforce the 35hr job search and lost at upper tribunal ?’. Bullshit. They have not done anything of the sort. When you sign-up to Universal Credit you have to agree, on your Claimant Commitment, to a 35 Hour Jobsearch. So it is bullshit to say otherwise. And someone is going to get sanctioned following this wrong advice.
    Once again @superted, you are trying to mix one thing in with another, in order to prop up your ideas.
    The DWP were unable to enforce the 35 Hour Jobsearch on Jobseekeer’s Allowance claimants, that is true.
    But not relevant. Because we are talking about the new system, Universal Credit. This has a specified 35 Hour Jobsearch built into it from day one. So it’s no good ranting on about Jobseeker’s Allowance rules, and trying to pretend that you can transfer these over to Universal Credit. You can’t.

    Tom Sutton

    April 19, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    • DECISION OF THE UPPER TRIBUNAL
      (ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS CHAMBER)
      The DECISION of the Upper Tribunal is to allow the appeals by the Appellant.
      The decision of the Manchester First-tier Tribunal dated 14 February 2017
      under combined file references SC164/16/00276 and SC164/16/00322 involves
      an error on a point of law. The First-tier Tribunal’s decision is set aside.
      The Upper Tribunal is able to re-make the decision under appeal. The decision
      that the First-tier Tribunal should have made is as follows:
      “The Appellant’s appeals are allowed.
      The Secretary of State’s decisions of 17 October 2016 are both revised.
      The Appellant undertook all reasonable work search action for the periods
      04/07/2016 to 10/07/2016 and 11/07/2016 to 17/07/2016. It follows that the
      two medium-level sanctions of 28 days each should not have been
      imposed.
      The Secretary of State should therefore arrange repayment of the moneys
      deducted under the universal credit sanctions in question with all
      reasonable speed.”

      Click to access 459.pdf

      superted

      April 19, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    • Your find in the UC regs the specific phrase used is expected.

      Part 8, chapter 1/88 titled expected hours.
      Under any definition let alone the regulation itself, this means probable,likely,anticipated.

      Boiled down into numbers thats 7 hours a day over 5 days or 5 hours over 7 days.
      If your a library user for instance your looking at 33 hours use cold but i can tell you thats not going to happen because your not the only one unemployed looking for work who cant afford an internet connection at home.
      Second to this you have to take a break from a VDU activities so thats another 5.3 hours to deduct from 33 minus the last hour, meaning 27.7 hours a week. If one could reach the 35 then it would be 29.3 hours a week.

      This aside job hunting is very much “how long is a piece of string” so one cant be reliant on a well choreographed regime to grant predictive results.

      The 35 hour expectation is cute but what is actually important is whether or not the applicant has done all they can considering their individual circumstances to attempt to secure employment.
      A stipulated expectant 35 Hours work search just does not prove this and is merely a statisticians attempt to give DWP/government a line in the sand to which they may fashion the threat of or actual ostracization.

      Doug

      April 20, 2020 at 12:15 pm

  405. Universal Credit has to follow the law not the law follow Universal Credit.A disability ignored is immediate and full grounds for an appeal,of course its expected that the poor claimant is cloaked in guilt.

    Superted Kick's Butt !

    April 19, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    • i came they saw i kicked there ass 😉
      DSC_0008

      superted

      April 19, 2020 at 6:06 pm

      • @superted – This is an old tribunal decision that you received about Jobseeker’s Allowance !
        Not Universal Credit ! And that is not the same thing at all. How many times are people going to have to tell you this ???

        Pete

        April 19, 2020 at 6:16 pm

      • its old because they wont send me to a provider ever again buy law and dwp rules and regs i do not have to sign any of there paper work to participate.

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 6:28 pm

      • J Roberts left an annotation (30 December 2017)

        You might be interested in this Upper Tribunal decision concerning an overturned sanction related to the 35-hour job search requirement:

        http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKUT/AAC/

        Although the DWP’s response to your request referred to regulation 95(1) it did not mention 95(2), which deals with ‘relevant deductions’ from the expected hours. Judge Wilkeley writes:

        ‘ 24. The fundamental error of law by the First-tier Tribunal was to proceed on the basis that the 35 hour work search requirement was immutable. It was not.’

        He continues:

        ’31. Thus regulation 95 does not mean that a failure to engage in work search for 35 hours a week necessarily leads to a finding that the claimant has failed to comply with the work search requirement.’

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 6:58 pm

  406. @superted – I’ve got to say Superted that I agree with @Tom Sutton and @ John Markham. There is an expected 35 Hour a week jobsearch on Universal Credit. And you are no proving anything to the contrary with pictures of your worksearch.
    Obviously the 35 Hour Jobsearch can be reduced, and it often is, with volunteering etc. But the basic fact that it exists as a condition of Universal Credit, does not change. And if you try doing a 5 Hour jobsearch on Universal Credit, in normal times, you are going to get yourself sanctioned. And so is anyone who follows your example.

    Jeff Smith

    April 19, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    • you are expected to look and apply for work simple as that there not interested in anything else do you really think there going to read all of the crap you give them no chance.

      the can not even check the jobs that you have applied for i could send a blank cv to every one and they would never know its called the gdpr.

      so basically there is no way for them to even police the job search it is all conditionally and pressure tactics.

      i have a template for you tho have fun with it.

      DSC_0063

      o and i have not been to a provider since 2017 so do have fun when you get sent to one for 6 month stint on work fair you will really like that.

      superted

      April 19, 2020 at 6:36 pm

      • and if i was your adviser jeff id expect 450-500 job applications per week that seem fair for a 35hr job search anyone pmsl 😉

        and if you can manage that why not double it happy with that as well or to much of a expectation 😉

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 6:47 pm

      • @jeff as you uc work coach i have changed you claimant commitment to 35hr job search and a minimum of 450 job applications per week to be reviewed every 3 months.

        any less than this amount will result in a sanction doubt being raised.

        this evidence must also be provided in print outs of your email job application receipts no other format will be accepted.

        you must accept these cc changes in 7 days or you hole claim will be closed down.

        have a nice day.

        superted

        April 19, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    • The DWP shot themselves in the foot years ago when they outsourced the online jobsearch portal to a private company. It severed the link between the jobcentre and employer and meant there was no way they could check if you had applied for any of the jobs. How do you “prove” you did 35 hours job search? You can’t. They have created a system whereby it’s almost impossible to enforce any of their requirements.

      bob

      April 20, 2020 at 4:11 am

      • @bob: Yes that is true. Unless you have someone under observation, it’s impossible to prove if they did 5 hours, or 2 hours of jobsearch per day. The jobcentre can only go on the written evidence presented. And of course, things like printed Job Application Confirmations. And again, there is no way to tell if these have been genuine job applications. Or just one-click token applications, fired off at random to make up the numbers. For any voluntary work the claimant does, or ‘work preparation’ activities’ , the jobcentre has full details of time and place. So this can be checked, and deducted from the notional 35 Hour jobsearch.
        But the 35 Hour Jobsearch still exists as an enforceable part of jobsearching requirements under Universal Credit. And that is why claimants still have to provide full details of their jobsearch, to appear to have taken 35 Hours to complete. Stretching out each activity, jobsearch, CV writing, phone-calls etc. to get enough total hours listed.
        It is misleading of @superted to claim that there is no such thing as a 35 Hour Jobsearch under Universal Credit. It may not be an exact science, and no doubt people are getting away with doing much less.
        And then writing up their jobsearch to look like it has taken 35 Hours. But this is not the same as pretending that the 35 Hour Jobsearch on Universal Credit does not exist.

        Jeff Smith

        April 20, 2020 at 1:18 pm

      • @Jeff Smith. Yeah, right on . Try telling my Work Coach that I’m not doing a 35 Hour Work Search !
        You might as well sanction yourself !
        I get sick and tired of these so-called experts on here. Think they know everything. And getting people into trouble.

        Barry

        April 20, 2020 at 2:29 pm

      • the dwp and its providers have tried to sanction me 28 times and they have not got 1 to stick.

        no one on here never believed me that i never signed provider paper work and never stayed at any provider for the last ten years.

        it took 12 months but i did win and no more providers for me ever again.

        it is your claim at the end of the day not mine if you dont want to rock the boat then dont do it.

        if you do do it you better be prepared to defend your self and wait 12 months for a tribunal.

        DSC_0693_01

        if your adviser is hell bent on sanctioning you and will brake there own riles and regs to do it ill fight them every single time.

        superted

        April 20, 2020 at 2:47 pm

  407. No one in their right mind does 35 hours of job search a week. The jobcentre knows this. Only servile morons like Jeff Serf would have you believe so.

    Billy Boyne

    April 20, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    • @billy boyne: The only moron on here is you Billy Boyne , Jeff Smith is quite right about the 35 Hour Jobsearch as an expected part of Universal Credit. Not all the ranting and drama-queen posts of @superted will change this.

      Graham

      April 20, 2020 at 2:25 pm

      • “expected” being the operative word.

        Billy Boyne

        April 20, 2020 at 3:46 pm

  408. i have the same 35hr job search on my cc same as anyone on jsa or uc the conditions are the same for both benefits same as the law.

    now if you can provide enough job applications for said week the time taken does not matter because you have applied for all the jobs that you could possibly do or travel to in the local area.

    like doug and i have said it is expected hrs of job search which is like how long is a piece of string.

    as long as you can meet your work search requirements it wont be a problem as the will only raise a sanction doubt if you do not apply for jobs and be able to prove this.

    they could put 150hr a week job search on a cc and it will still be the same it is expected time taken when what really counts is job applications as this is what you will need to show to a tribunal.

    now if you have a twat as a adviser they could still push through a sanction for not completing the 35hr job search even tho you have applied for plenty of jobs.

    in this case you have 2 options take the hit or take it to a tribunal which could take a year or more to sort out but the dwp will loose if it went that far as the case above.

    dont forget i have done work fair and spent 7hrs a day in a providers office doing job search but at the end of the day if no one will employ you it does not matter how much time you spend job searching or how many jobs you apply for.

    i have about 12.000 job applications so far and i do not got one reply it is a waste of time but if i dont do it i will get sanctioned.

    if you start to apply for jobs on cv library and total jobs after a couple of weeks you will be flooded with jobs to apply for even today i have about 34 to go through of which 3-5 i might be able to do.

    can the dwp check any of this nope data protection so it is just a merry go round of pressure tactics why it does not work on me as i go buy the law.

    superted

    April 20, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    • Their probably most likely to shut down the claim online without any warning through the journal.The longest term unemployed don’t have the skills or the qualifications to make them attractive and employable.

      ken

      April 20, 2020 at 6:51 pm

      • that would be a grate expectation or more like a miracle in my case lol the dwp make you unemployable so you can be used as a profit unit down a provider doing work fair.

        i can see the £ signs in the providers eyes now lol i wont be signing anything thats a sure fact 😉

        superted

        April 20, 2020 at 8:12 pm

  409. superted

    April 20, 2020 at 2:00 pm

  410. @superted: Universal Credit – 35 hour jobsearch. Plus Zero-Hours and part-time work applications.
    No exceptions or excuses. Or sanctioned until you do it. That’s the real deal.

    Darren

    April 20, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    • all of the jobs i apply for are zero hour and part time jobs i do the same work search as any one on uc as i have 35hr job search on my cc.

      i have been doing it for years now and i have never had a ase sanction doubt 😉

      that is the real deal and they can try and sanction me all they want there not going to get nowhere with it 😉

      superted

      April 20, 2020 at 3:29 pm

  411. Superted’s Seven Jobcentre Rules

    1. I must be respectful to my Work Coach

    2. I must sit quietly and not speak unless I’m spoken to

    3. I must not contradict or argue with my Work Coach

    4. I must not use agressive language or behaviour

    5. I must obey my Work Coach and do exactly what I am told

    6. I must do a proper jobsearch each week

    7. I must remember that the Jobcentre are trying to help me gain employment.

    Andrew

    April 20, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    • dont worry i do get hate mail from the dwp manager pmsl

      DSC_0597

      and i do not have a work coach anymore they dont even bother to look at my job search i sign on and go home.

      they want me out the place fast as possible for some reason lol 😉

      superted

      April 20, 2020 at 3:50 pm

  412. Funniest bit of that letter was “Yours sincerely”

    Billy Boyne

    April 20, 2020 at 4:27 pm

    • signed by mr scribble lol. and they all bugger off home @5pm about right 😉

      superted

      April 20, 2020 at 6:08 pm

  413. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/decision_not_to_raise_legacy_ben?nocache=incoming-1561893#incoming-1561893

    no-reply@dwp.ecase.co.uk on behalf of DWP Central FOI Team, Department for Work and Pensions 20 April 2020
    Our ref: FOI2020/19088

    Contact email: [1][email address]

    Dear Finn Keaney,

    Thank you for your request for information which was received on 17th
    April. Your request is being considered under the terms of the Freedom of
    Information Act 2000.

    You can normally expect a response to your FoI request within 20 working
    days. However due to the current situation with COVID-19 it may not be
    possible for us to reply to you within this timeframe.

    The DWP will make every effort to respond to FOIs as we would usually but
    the current situation may mean that available Departmental resources are
    needed on other high priority areas.

    We kindly ask for your understanding during this unpreceden ted situation
    and we will aim to deal with your FOI request as soon as is practically
    possible.

    If you have any queries about this letter, please contact the department
    using the email address and reference number above.

    Yours sincerely,

    DWP Central FoI Team

    Department for Work and Pensions

    References

    Visible links
    1. mailto:[email address]

    superted

    April 20, 2020 at 10:41 pm

  414. Hi, I phoned up that snooty cow Victoria Derbyshire on the ‘Your Coronavirus questions answered’ segment on BBC News and asked “Who does the voice-over for the adverts?” (not what I told her ‘researcher’ 😀 ) but the bitch cut me off 😦 so I am putting this out to the blogosphere 🙂 Anyone know?

    Debbie from Preston

    April 21, 2020 at 7:20 am

  415. It looks like avoiding an online claim will help with problems with Universal Credit,if they don’t pay and the claims closed then someones basic home internet is going to be cut off and then they would be unable to maintain an online claim anyway let alone 35 hours jobsearching with nothing.

    It has been reported that almost 20% of initial Universal Credit (UC) claims are being closed due to non-compliance with the process. This is happening because claimants:

    fail to book an interview with the Job Centre soon after submitting their online claim
    fail to attend the interview with the Work Coach
    fail to state on their online journal that they accepted the claimant commitment within 7 days of making the claim.

    http://benefitsaware.centralenglandlc.org.uk/initial-universal-credit-claims-closing-incorrectly/

    I don’t see this getting people into work anyway.

    ken

    April 21, 2020 at 9:29 am

    • UC isnt about getting people into work, its about supporting people in work and those just out of work with a good chance of soon to be going back to work. It all works off the premise of no ones unemployable, everyone’s employed be they in work or like work fulfilling their commitment.

      It isnt this (UC) that gets you into work, thats your responsibility. All UC does is assist financially to a point.
      Sadly however not giving work allowances and tax credits to single/couple healthy claimants without dependents doesn’t give the claimant the boost needed to accrue funds to get a foothold to climb out of the work gutter as so to speak.
      Claimants are often trapped in a repeating cycle of relative poverty unless of course they succumb to taking out loans and getting into debt which is thwart with danger when your on the bottom rung.

      Also raising the tax allowance to around £16’000 for those under £20’000 a year and the min wage to £10 would assure this.

      Doug

      April 21, 2020 at 10:25 am

      • @Doug; Yes, but look at the way that Universal Credit was designed. Strict conditions and sanctions. Forcing people to apply for zero-hours and part-time jobs. I don’t think it’s true that UC isn’t about getting people into work. Quite the opposite in fact. UC was based on the belief that the old legacy system was too soft on claimants, and allowed them to remain unemployed for years at a time. As we saw in the 1980s.
        UC takes the whip to the unemployed, takes away their choices, and backs it all with a harsh sanction system. That is what is wrong with Universal Credit. It’s one man’s personal crusade, against what he saw as deliberate skiving by a large minority of the working-class. They weren’t working, so much as working the system. And the taxpayer was paying.

        Tom Sutton

        April 21, 2020 at 2:06 pm

      • if you think i got a easy ride on jsa think again try going a few rounds with a hit squad adviser what they done for ppl when they left the first work programme.

        for me it was a 45min argument for about 3 months b4 they gave up and that included signing on every day for a week.

        imo i still am the no 1 sanction target and have been for years there is not 1 person in the jcp that has not had a go at it and all have failed over the years.

        i cant better my self by going to collage as id loose all benefits if going full time yet have to do a 35hr job search bs.

        i bet most ppl in my situation would have just snapped and gave up claiming years ago as that was the plan it just does not work on me i like a good argument lol.

        i broke my arm in 2 places and went to sign on b4 i went to the hospital a few years ago it was black and blue down to my fingers and swollen.

        my work coach was of sick and was dumped on esa for 12 months found fit for work and back to jsa merry go round.

        superted

        April 21, 2020 at 2:33 pm

      • @superted, You’ve been through the wars with them, and no mistake.

        Patrick G.

        April 21, 2020 at 2:51 pm

      • try going a few rounds with a hit squad adviser what they done for ppl when they left the first work programme.

        That was a bad one Superted,they through all their values out the window and locally at least it looks like a few outside threw something at the door and windows.That work programme was a right mess with all the interest in money,some third parties did try to help but money was always behind the no money in it for those too complaints.

        ken

        April 21, 2020 at 7:03 pm

      • i went to the work programme provider jhp 2 times once for induction and once for my exit report 2 years later.

        i did not sign anything and they tried about 12 times to sanction me over that time and failed because i had no contract with the provider.

        the jcp did not have a clue i was not attending the provider and i said nothing bar its all going fine when i signed on 😉

        i went to get my exit report after 2 years and they had nothing bar my name on the system as buy this time it was taken over buy learn direct as jhp was the worst in the country pmsl.

        now this exit report was for the hit squad advisers to use to turn the screws even more.

        when i told them there was no exit report and was not going to get one and i did not attend for the hole 2 years they went fkn ballistic trying everything to wind me up i just sat there and smiled at them as not getting me thrown out the jcp buy g4s 🙂

        the first thing they done was change my cc to daily signing but as i asked for the bus fair back soon stopped that pmsl.

        superted

        April 21, 2020 at 7:53 pm

    • @ken – Universal Credit is full of these vindictive rules. which stop the money at the slightest excuse.
      The default attitude of this system is always not to pay, if there is any doubt at all. Or the slightest infringement of the regulations. Even if this is unintentional. Just one more example of the paranoid, anti-claimant attitude that was built into Universal Credit from the very beginning.

      Andrew

      April 21, 2020 at 2:37 pm

  416. The Mental Health Crisis Created By Ongoing UK Welfare Reforms

    “the introduction of Universal Credit led to an increase in psychological distress, a measure of mental health difficulties, among those affected by the policy. Future changes to government welfare systems should be evaluated not only on a fiscal basis but on their potential to affect health and wellbeing.”

    https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/the-mental-health-crisis-created-by-ongoing-uk-welfare-reforms/

    ken

    April 21, 2020 at 9:36 am

  417. Labour calls for urgent changes to social security system

    In a call that follows the launch of an inquiry into the response of the Department for Work and Pensions to coronavirus, Jonathan Reynolds has argued that the UK must “strengthen the safety net”.

    https://labourlist.org/2020/04/labour-calls-for-urgent-changes-to-social-security-system/

    ken

    April 21, 2020 at 9:40 am

    • Now they say this ? Still, better late than never I suppose. The sensible thing would be to introduce Universal Basic Income.

      Jeff Smith

      April 21, 2020 at 1:54 pm

      • You know when psychos like Elon Musk are pushing for a UBI it has got to be a ******* scam.

        Cloverleaf

        April 22, 2020 at 11:29 am

    • Modern, free-market socialism at last.

      Burt Manning

      April 21, 2020 at 2:48 pm

      • UBI will not be good… A poxy bit of credit if you’ve been a good goyim and quickly taken away if you haven’t!

        Tigerlily

        April 22, 2020 at 12:25 pm

  418. If you took the 5 Week wait out of Universal Credit, and stopped the cruel sanction regime. Adopted an attitude of genuine support and assistance to claimants, it would be much improved. Get rid of the authoritarian ‘Claimant Commitment’, which sounds like something from a prison yard. And change the mindset of the DWP, from discipline and control to understanding and helpfulness.
    People would not fear going onto Universal Credit. Then it might be of some actual use, other than as a symbol of repression and despair.

    Alan Turner

    April 21, 2020 at 2:26 pm

  419. @Alan Turner: I agree there 100% Alan. And it all comes down to the time when they changed from the old DSS to the DWP. And started in with the attitude where they didn’t care if people were left on the street with nothing at all.

    Matt

    April 21, 2020 at 2:44 pm

  420. Universal Credit is not a system,
    It’s a national disgrace.

    Designed to punish the working-class,
    And keep them in their place.

    It stops the idle skiver and says to him,
    ”Look chum, if you don’t change your ways
    I’ll have to smack your bum.”

    It’s hard to start your claim, and harder to keep it too,
    You’ll wait 5 weeks for money,
    They don’t care what happens to you.

    But you’ll be able to apply for jobs,
    You don’t really want to do,

    For 35 Hours a week,
    That’s what they expect of you.

    Random Poet

    April 21, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    • @random: Right On Mate !

      Deke

      April 22, 2020 at 10:56 am

  421. yay i got a reply, and a waste of time lol

    Hi

    You applied for a role with us in Atherstone as a parcel sorter, are you still interested?

    We will be carrying out a criminal records check so please advise if you have any unspent convictions.

    If so can you please fully complete these attached on line forms (including the 5 year work history) and send back to me along with proof of your right to work (passport/birth certificate/ID card etc), proof of address (bank statement with full name shown issued in the last 3 months, utility bill issued in the last 3 months, mortgage statement or council tax bill issued in the last 12 months) and proof of NI (official document, not a payslip and must show full name) – please see attached list of acceptable documents.

    superted

    April 21, 2020 at 4:56 pm

  422. sounds like identity theft

    big bird

    April 21, 2020 at 6:20 pm

  423. Coronavirus: Barriers to claiming benefits could get worse during the UK lockdown, frontline advisers warn
    ‘We’re seeing a lot of people struggling simply because they’ve never had to access the benefits system’

    The barriers some groups of people face to accessing benefits are likely to be amplified during the coronavirus lockdown, frontline advisers at Citizens Advice have warned.

    Demand for Universal Credit has surged amid the pandemic, with social distancing measures leaving many people unable to work or facing reduced hours. Around 1.5 million claims were made in the six weeks to 12 April, according to the Department for Work and Pensions.

    https://inews.co.uk/news/coronavirus-benefits-claim-barriers-worse-uk-lockdown-dwp-universal-credit-2546025

    ken

    April 22, 2020 at 10:53 am

    • What are the realistic prospects going to be for the legacy claimants ? With an extra 2 Million unemployed on the lists ? Employers will be spoilt for choice, and who are they going to hire ?

      Burt Manning

      April 22, 2020 at 11:02 am

  424. Anyone with an inquiring mind should read this informative article:

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/20/coronavirus-lockdown-and-what-you-are-not-being-told-part-2/

    Billy Boyne

    April 22, 2020 at 10:56 am

    • Agenda 21

      Violet

      April 25, 2020 at 2:03 pm

  425. These were published yesterday on the DWP website – latest documents. As usual they contradict each other.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/latest?departments%5B%5D=department-for-work-pensions

    This one says the requirement for JSA claimants to look for work is lifted.

    Click to access adm4-20.pdf

    This one says JSA claimants are to be treated as actively seeking employment.

    Click to access m-06-20.pdf

    jj joop

    April 22, 2020 at 11:05 am

    • the way i see it is if you have the means to job search then you should at least try to apply for jobs as sanctions have not been totally ruled out.

      at the end of the day if you show up after months with not one job application then they could sanction you and have no way to defend yourself.

      as ever they will go after the easy targets first but i still plan on showing them nothing and see what they say when i have to attend again.

      superted

      April 22, 2020 at 11:51 am

  426. “DWP sanctioned me during coronavirus – and left my family without a penny to survive”

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/dwp-sanctioned-during-coronavrius-left-21906845

    if you have no money and have to use the journal so need the internet to keep a claim going well its not going to happen and a easy way to just end your claim.

    this is one of the reasons i will never have the journal sanctions at the press of a button and would have to hole claim shut down in that case.

    you can not trust the dwp or any bs they say

    superted

    April 22, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    • None of this comes as a surprise with this.Thats terrible leaving people with nothing.It has an air of victimization about all of this.

      Face-to-face assessments for all sickness and disability benefits have also been cancelled for the next three months

      Is that for new claims too?A friend mentioned he’s having an over the phone assessment with Atos.

      ken

      April 22, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    • @superted; Yes, but this was a sanction already running before the coronavirus outbreak. They didn’t sanction this guy after the lockdown as the headline suggests.

      George

      April 24, 2020 at 2:00 pm

      • good job they got it to the media then you just can not trust the dwp 😉

        superted

        April 24, 2020 at 2:07 pm

  427. It’s going to be really difficult for some of the more zealous Work Coaches when people do go back . Months gone by, and maybe not a single job application to show for it. They will be biting their tongue trying not to say anything. But if you don’t have internet access, don’t worry yourself sick about a jobsearch. And don’t give yourself coronavirus dashing about trying to give people your CV etc. In a frantic attempt at a jobsearch.

    It’s been made quite clear that :.

    . ‘As a result of the Coronavirus disease outbreak for a period of 3 months from 30.3.20, where a person has an award of JSA or UC

    1. the Secretary of State must not impose a work search requirement

    2. where a person already has an existing work search requirement it will cease to
    have effect from 30.3.20

    3. the requirement to be able and willing to take up work or attend an interview is lifted1’
    1 SS (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regs, reg 6(1)

    So you are completely covered against any sanctions for failing to jobsearch until 30th June 2020.

    However, if you do have internet access at home, and have got nothing better to do, it might well be worth making a few one-click applications. Just to have something to show them. But this is optional now.
    There can be no sanctions made by Work Coaches, no matter how self-important they are, when the Secretary Of State has published these extraordinary instructions.

    Jeff Smith

    April 22, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    • dwp staff make up there own law tho they would be totally stupid to try sanctions at a time like this but they can not be trusted.

      superted

      April 22, 2020 at 12:33 pm

  428. Some job centre work coaches will try it on, why have you not done a job search, or applied for those fruit picking job, social care work etc, or one of the nhs volunteer jobs.

    I been busy applying for jobs,

    my_final_username

    April 22, 2020 at 12:33 pm

  429. The DWP’s latest Universal Credit revelations are mind-blowing
    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2020/04/22/the-dwps-latest-universal-credit-revelations-are-mind-blowing/

    Mum feared being ‘left with nothing’ to feed family after DWP benefits blunder
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-feared-being-left-nothing-21906253

    superted

    April 22, 2020 at 1:00 pm

  430. well they are still taking payments to repay my budgeting loan so that has not stopped yet lol

    superted

    April 23, 2020 at 8:09 am

    • Still have to pay taxes and NI, not to mention pension contributions whether your working or on furlough so why would that be surprising.

      Doug

      April 23, 2020 at 10:12 am

  431. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/recovery-of-benefit-overpayment-suspended

    Deductions for the recovery of Universal Credit and legacy benefit overpayments, Social Fund loans and Tax Credit debts will be paused.

    superted

    April 23, 2020 at 11:31 am

    • There are some people that are more worried about people claiming benefit rather then the Coronavirus.It’s best keep applying for jobs.

      DWP ‘didn’t really consider’ scrapping the five-week wait for Universal Credit
      Tory welfare minister says the structure of Universal Credit is unlikely to change despite the Coronavirus outbreak.

      https://welfareweekly.com/dwp-didnt-really-consider-scrapping-the-five-week-wait-for-universal-credit/

      ken

      April 23, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    • Notice how its only over payments and does not include advancements ?

      Meanwhile government is covering the cost of employers Ni and pension contributions (what the employer pays) but not employees contributions.

      Doug

      April 24, 2020 at 8:52 am

  432. The EU’s 100 billion euro scheme to tackle unemployment caused by COVID-19

    The International Labour Organization foresees the loss of 12 million full-time jobs in Europe in 2020.

    The sectors most at risk include accommodation and food services, manufacturing, retail and administration.

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/22/the-eu-s-100-billion-euro-scheme-to-tackle-unemployment-caused-by-covid-19

    ken

    April 23, 2020 at 8:09 pm

  433. Fair point, ken, we are not all lazy bastards on here. I picked spuds manually in school holiday time in the late 50s (but I wouldn’t want to do that again, rather take the sanction 😀 ). The two hardest jobs other than tatty-howking are scaffolders & removal men.

    Ron Broxsted

    April 23, 2020 at 10:13 pm

  434. HM Gov’s Chief Medical Advisor: “Social distancing and limiting our contacts with others will be a fact of life for a long time to come, certainly until treatments and ultimately a vaccine – so that means for the rest of this year and most likely even beyond.” It is not like the Jobcentre is going to be opening any time soon. For the Jobcentre to re-open we would have to returned to ‘normal’ and that isn’t going to happen.
    We are in a ‘new normal’. Besides, you would have to open the barber/hairdressers and libraries as well so that jobseekers could get their hair done before that job interview gleaned from job-searching in the library and those places aren’t opening any time soon. Jobcentres, pubs, bookies and hair salons are set to remain in lock down for possibly all of eterntiy. Jobcentres may never re-open: the padlock on the door will freeze and turn to rust. And what about the ‘providers’? Won’t they go bust? 😀

    Ron Broxted

    April 24, 2020 at 10:18 am

    • Yeah but Ron mate, they’ll have to open up the jokeshops. Or who is going to check all the jobsearches ?
      Can’t see the DWP just paying out without checking things.

      Garry

      April 24, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      • but they cant check anything really can they lol data protection!

        superted

        April 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm

      • but they cant check anything really can they lol data protection

        That was another one “A doubt has arisen” letter,one said I hadn’t applied and had to rush home to get the letter saying I was not sucessful.

        The other one was I never applied,rang the company they had the application was on their desk there.

        ken

        April 24, 2020 at 6:14 pm

      • Artificial Intelligence will be checking your job search soon, no more roaches will be necessary as AI will be in charge soon, we will soon be living in a technocracy!!

        Violet

        April 25, 2020 at 2:11 pm

      • Your going to find superted as is already happening that laws are changing in either how the government have reinterpreted or may rush through changes in law. Even how businesses are working is changing like for instance my local bus companies where i live are abolishing the use of cash not just for the duration of virus is a problem but forever. Its not due to start till the 14th of next month but already the driver nolonger keep change or issue credit tickets to the value of what they owe while hiding behind its given to charity.
        Future payments after the 14th of next month will only be contactless card and phone app.

        Supermarkets while still remaining tight lipped as to whether its permanent have also gone cashless on the manned tills. The thing to acknowledge in this is this plays right into the hands of businesses what with data the worlds biggest currency providing them another revenue stream and governments and banks only to eager to see the end of paper metal cash abandoned. This virus pandemic is the perfect storm to get majority backing from the public to carry this through just like 911 provided the push that had the public agreeing to the patriot act among others and the invasion of iraq.
        Im not saying its a definite future, im simply saying there is no better time to provide the opportunity to pull it off.

        Personal data is also taking a bashing like already your right to remove consent on medical data being shared has been abandoned and it now means such data is covered under exemptions. All online purchasing requires the recording and sharing of personal data with all tax authorities despite being a non business individual whose only making such a purchase for private use with no intent to commit economic activity.
        So in respect to say being unemployed and interviews, any claimant refusing to have a video interview even though they are lets say camera shy will likely face the charge of failure to attend an interview for instance. Its wise to assume what with the virus, failure to submit what a claimant has done to find work online (journal) may well result in a sanction if they claim its in the interests of health and safety.

        I did say the world of how things work would change. Couldnt have predicted a virus would be the catalyst but none the less things are changing and more things will change.

        Doug

        April 28, 2020 at 9:50 am

      • Which supermarkets are those, doug? The big four: Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury’s, EasySave Discounter? Or just your local cornershop? We never use the manned tills only the self-scan. Sometimes we have had to wait until the ‘cash’ till becomes available. Also the self-scans have been taken out of service. We have also observed from the outside but didn’t go into check, some sort of ‘coin exchange’ machine in Tesco. Kind of like the banks now have these machines. Hoovering paper and metal out of the system? We also noticed on the side of a Loomis cash delivery van. ‘CASH is King’. Kind of like how the cash machines in the discounters say: “Cash is social, Cash, is convenient, Cash is control’. So obviously competing interests at work. The cash machines are still being filled and people are still getting cash out, As an aside one of the ‘dragons’ on Dragons Den made her £millions form ATMs. As another side in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey ‘ATM’ is displayed on the control panel. A film made in 1968 when ATMs weren’t yet invented, supposedly and in any case, didn’t appear until the early 1980s. Stanley Kubrick was well ahead of his time. Anyway, back on topic. So it appears that we haven’t all been lobotomised into going ‘cashless’, just yet, but it does seem that we are getting nudged that way.

        The Shopoholics

        April 28, 2020 at 12:26 pm

      • Also HALF of the self-scans have been taken out of service

        The Shopoholics

        April 28, 2020 at 12:29 pm

  435. Hi Ron 🙂 *waves* 😀

    Freya Heath aka 'Emily'

    April 24, 2020 at 10:26 am

  436. With 5 or 6 Million unemployed it’s going to be chaos in the Jobcentres. Worse than the 1980s.

    Malcolm

    April 24, 2020 at 12:37 pm

  437. I suppose they will have to open up the Jobcentres eventually ? People will just have to do the social distance thing, and sit 6 feet from your Work Coach. And they could put up screens of course, as they do now in many shops.

    Andrew

    April 24, 2020 at 12:42 pm

  438. There has got to come a point where the DWP start saying WTF we want to start checking !

    Nathan

    April 24, 2020 at 12:45 pm

  439. ‘The public facing areas in jobcentres should have the 2m spacing clearly marked out with tape to ensure that the public we are still seeing face to face can readily see how far they need to remain from staff. Using tape can also be useful as a reminder of the space that needs to be kept between staff in all sites such as around tea-points, photocopiers etc. It may be worth spreading out the seating in canteens and break out areas so that there are consistent reminders to everyone to remain 2m apart from others.’ – PCS Union Site

    What about the G4S guards, are they socially distancing too ?

    Colin Claimant

    April 24, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    • UC was created in part to do away with face to face physical meetings so i wouldnt be surprised if they use this opportunity to push through legacy claimants onto UC in the interests of health and safety.
      Sadly for claimants, i imagine the public would back such an action considering the situation if this is the route DWP take.

      Doug

      April 28, 2020 at 9:56 am

  440. Where is Andrew Coates ?
    Has he gone away ?
    Or is it simply that he has nothing more to say ?

    Has inspiration left him without ideas to write?
    Is writer’s block the cause of this peculiar plight ?

    Or does the answer lie upon the astral plane?
    Where Andrew’s secret mission has taken him again ?

    Once more to battle for the side of good, and truth, and light
    A never ending conflict the Illuminati must fight

    And we so readers of this blog
    Can only wait and say

    Andrew if you can,
    When you can,
    Come back to us some day.

    Random Poet

    April 24, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    • @random poet . Another classic Random. Unlike the clone poet who just posts other people’s lyrics.
      It’s like Highlander – There can be only one..

      Sam

      April 24, 2020 at 4:33 pm

  441. If you’ve heard all they got to say
    You looked but turned away
    Walkaway, walkaway
    If you’ve said all you got to say
    And now the words just slip away
    Just walkaway, walkaway, walkaway
    That’s what they say, what they say,
    what they say
    You gotta walkaway

    If you’ve played all the games they play
    You played them yesterday
    Walkaway, walkaway
    If you’ve been, where they want to go
    Seen all they got to show
    Just walkaway, walkaway, walkaway
    That’s what they say, what they say,
    what they say
    You gotta walkaway

    And now you must believe me
    You never lose your dreams
    And now you must believe me
    We never lose our dreams

    If you’ve proved all there is to prove
    Got nothing left to use
    Walkaway, walkaway
    If you’ve done, all there is to do
    There ain’t nothing left for you
    Just walkaway, walkaway, walkaway
    That’s what they say, what they say,
    what they say
    Walkaway, walkaway,walkaway
    That’s what they say, what they say,
    what they say
    You gotta walkaway
    Today

    Another Random Poet

    April 24, 2020 at 2:34 pm

  442. Virtual signing-on is the key for the future, just like parliament. In a virtual Jobcentre, with virtual Work Coaches.

    Tron

    April 24, 2020 at 4:36 pm

  443. People with disabilities will be further from work after COVID – it’s time to reform the system

    If you live in the UK today and have a disability, you are twice as likely to be unemployed than someone who is not disabled – a fact so well-known that it has been named the ‘disability employment gap’ by policy makers. This gap recently shows tentative signs of closing: between 2013 and 2019, employment for disabled adults rose at a faster rate of 9.8 per cent than for those without disabilities at only 4.2 per cent.

    The Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) has long been criticised for neglecting those who were farthest from employment.

    http://www.nlgn.org.uk/public/2020/supporting-those-with-complex-needs-into-employment-must-begin-now/

    ken

    April 24, 2020 at 5:32 pm

  444. Disabled people have described the pain and distress they have endured in attempting to buy food during the COVID-19 crisis, with many forced to put up with clear discrimination from their local supermarket.

    The accounts collected by Disability News Service (DNS) over the last week build a picture of disabled people struggling to feed themselves, and having to put the health of themselves and their families at risk, while supermarkets fail to adjust their policies and procedures to take account of the barriers their disabled customers are facing.

    https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/coronavirus-supermarket-discrimination-risks-lives-and-causes-pain-and-distress/

    Aldi staff were rude to me spraying hand cleaner on their gloves then being handed food wet in a huff,creating a hostile atmosphere too.if you’ve an invisible disability its to bad.Their social distancing in store is in chaos.They let many people in.

    Someone said to me its like that song “some things will never change”.

    ken

    April 24, 2020 at 5:42 pm

  445. I wonder how many claimants actually realise that the DWP can’t check up on their work search activities because of the GDPR and I wonder how many claimants know they are protected from any sanctions for failing to do a jobsearch until 30th June? Funny old life isn’t it.

    jj joop

    April 24, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    • i got the best one tho as tried and tested to work,lasting powers of attorney.

      my mum did this for her brother so all of his benefits was paid in to her bank account and he never had to attend to jcp again and that was ten years ago.

      he has not even had a assessment in all that time either he just went from dla to esa and nothing changed bar the name.

      it costs about 400 quid but the court can refuse it so better have a good case to apply for it in the first place 😉

      drop that nuke on a work coach and see what they say 😉

      superted

      April 24, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    • @jj joop – This new amnesty on jobsearching and sanctions only lasts until 30th June. So unless it is officially extended, you could be sanctioned again from the 1st July. So something to watch out for, knowing the DWP.

      Graham

      April 25, 2020 at 12:11 pm

  446. Yeah, good point Graham. A lot of people will have switched to low jobsearch activity, or none during this period. If they go back to their Jobcentres on 15th July or whatever, and there has been no extension. They could be asked for their usual jobsearch evidence from 1st July to 15th July.

    Andy

    April 25, 2020 at 12:23 pm

  447. i can still do my job search like nothing has happened at all as plenty of jobs coming in to apply for.

    most of the places are closed tho so why are they advertising jobs for places that are not even open they can not be real!

    superted

    April 25, 2020 at 12:40 pm

  448. This is fucking scandalous! Rich second home owners stealing £10,000 of taxpayers cash by pretending their property is a holiday let. The same fuckers who look down and sneer as a ‘benefit cheat’ is jailed for earning a couple of ‘quid on the side’. And what is even more disgusting is that the government is doing jackshit about it, merely cautioning people to act in the spirit of the measures. And anyway, if you were a bona fide holiday let you would assume that there would be some provable, auditable trading history. This country is fucking disgusting! Kudo to Timmy Farron for exposing this fraud.

    Coronavirus: Second-home owners ‘claiming £10,000 in virus support’

    Second-home owners in the Lake District are exploiting a loophole to claim £10,000 from a coronavirus support fund, an MP claims.

    Tim Farron warns they are applying for small business grants having declared their properties as holiday lets.

    The representative for Westmorland and Lonsdale wants the government to change the law so people who “pretend” to run businesses no longer benefit.

    The government urged people not to misuse the support it is offering.

    The law currently enables people who use second homes as businesses to avoid council tax, and holiday lets can be registered for business rates if the property is available to let for 140 days per year.

    Liberal Democrat Mr Farron believes as many as 1,500 people in the South Lakes area have properties masquerading as holiday lets and are therefore able to claim grants from the coronavirus business fund.

    ‘Millions of pounds’

    “In the midst of the Covid-19 crisis, we find there’s an extra problem because the government support package for businesses can be accessed by these people who have second homes, who aren’t running a business but who are able to pretend they are.

    “That means there’s a free £10,000 available to every second-home owner.

    “There are thousands of people who are eligible to take advantage of this. That’s millions of pounds of public money.”

    Martin Sach, chief executive of the Holiday Home Association, told BBC Cumbria he “certainly would not endorse anyone making a false claim”.

    He added local authorities have the responsibility to “check the veracity of registrations” of holiday lets.

    The government has previously promised to take action to prevent second-home owners avoid paying council tax.

    In response to Mr Farron’s claim, the Treasury said it encourages people to respect the spirit of the measure and not misuse the support it is offering.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-52420392

    Disgusted from Winchester

    April 25, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    • Yeah, and these are the same clowns that won’t give the £20 extra to the legacy benefit claimants !

      Spike

      April 25, 2020 at 5:25 pm

      • Surely they will have to give the same £20 to the legacy claimants in the end ? You can’t just carry on with a 2 level benefit system.

        Dave

        April 26, 2020 at 7:03 pm

  449. Ex UKIP chair sacked from DWP over tweets comparing migrants to terrorists and paedophiles

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/ex-ukip-chair-sacked-dwp-18151661

    superted

    April 26, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    • Superted, would you like to be on universal credit,,,, if not why not?

      xclausx

      April 26, 2020 at 6:47 pm

      • the problem with uc is the online account and the cc is now also part of this and can be changed buy anyone at a jcp in the country with access.

        if a cc is changed and you wont accept what is on it in 7 days your hole claim will be shut down.

        if they stop my jsa i would do this.

        apply for uc over the phone and take in my id to get verified as i cant use the gov web site as no passport or driving licence.

        i will imo be asked for a email address to set up the online account i will refuse to give them one and give them the foi request that uc has a non digital part of uc and do not need a on line account to claim uc.

        buy law you do not require a email address or phone number to claim benefits this is your private personnel data and must be given of free will not under threats.

        they can keep asking on the lms all they want ill never give it to them. 😉

        superted

        April 26, 2020 at 7:12 pm

      • Those Brexit UKIP celebrations had an National Front feel about them,when it was in the football crowds there was uproar and front page news.At least the Euopean parliment doesn’t have to listen or put up with it anymore dragging the country and continent through the gutter.Racism/intolerance is coming home.

        ken

        April 26, 2020 at 7:46 pm

      • @superted – the foi request that UC has a non digital part of UC and states you do not need an online account to claim UC. Could provide us with link, please.

        kenwood

        April 26, 2020 at 9:17 pm

      • Non Digital UC Claim
        https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/non_digital_uc_claim

        Changing from phone to online claim
        Phone claims should be regularly reviewed with the claimant by both work coaches and case managers. They should ensure this i s still the most
        appropriate channel for them to manage their claim.
        If a claimant attains the skills and support to manage a claim online take the following action:
         access the ‘Change from phone claim to online’ ALP which is held in the resources area of Universal Learning. Complete the fi rst two sections of
        this ALP
         generate a ‘Change from phone claim to online’ to-do. This is only available to cases flagged as phone claims and only when the claimant’s identity
        has been verified
         this sends a link to the claimant’s email address for them to set a password. The service sets a user name
        The claimant will then be able to manage their claim online, and see any journal entries previously made.
        This process should be completed face to face and only exceptionally over the phone.

        DSC_0004

        superted

        April 26, 2020 at 10:19 pm

      • @superted – thanks for the link, ted. Like yourself, I’m still on legacy JSA and the one thing that puts me off online UC is the digital journal. And like you I’m not exactly Mr Popularity at my JC. This digital journal is wide open to abuse by coaches who have just got it in for claimants in general. You know the type.

        kenwood

        April 27, 2020 at 6:15 am

      • @kenwood

        I hear that! And I certainly do know the type.

        jj joop

        April 27, 2020 at 8:49 am

      • I think you can use a debit card now on that site for verify it used to be driving licences and passports which I don’t have either,but they need an email address.I don’t trust the privacy on sites your details can be shared with Google and who knows else.

        ken

        April 28, 2020 at 3:01 pm

      • COVID-19 lockdown exposes digital poverty in the UK

        https://www.neowin.net/news/covid-19-lockdown-exposes-digital-poverty-in-the-uk/

        ken

        April 29, 2020 at 12:52 pm

  450. Coronavirus: New modelling on lockdown exit strategy may be ready in ‘days’, says disease expert

    however keep social distancing until we have a vaccine, how long will that be?

    A modelling study from researchers at Harvard goes even further, predicting that on-and-off periods of social distancing measures will be needed until 2022.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-lockdown-uk-exit-strategy-end-when-modelling-a9484866.html

    xclausx

    April 26, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    • This was a month ago.

      On the other side of the English Channel, “lockdown” means something much more severe. The UK is still allowing one hour of outside exercise a day, often in parks that remain open. That would be a luxury for millions of Europeans who are only permitted the occasional trip to the supermarket.

      He (Matteo Ferrari, Italian doctor) looks at images from the UK with concern. “Half-hearted lockdowns don’t work, it has to be total.

      People will only really understand once their family, friends or neighbours begin to die from coronavirus. When it touches you personally, that’s when you’ll change your behaviour.

      Thats a very good point.

      Drones and anonymised mobile phone data are being used to track the movement of citizens.

      Here they flew them over the middle of nowhere with one or two parked cars undermining the serious message.

      https://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/europe/2020/03/uk-italy-tale-lockdowns-200326121826056.html

      ken

      April 26, 2020 at 7:58 pm

      • National Front, British Movement, British National Party, Third Position, British Peoples Party.

        Billy Boyne

        April 28, 2020 at 1:16 pm

  451. Food bank demand soars because of the lockdown

    Local food banks told The Independent demand had surged since the lockdown started, in some cases more than sevenfold, with much of this need driven by people who have lost their jobs and are unable to sustain themselves while they wait to receive their first universal credit payment.

    In the six weeks up to 12 April, 1.5 million people applied for universal credit, after around 18 per cent of the workforce had their hours cut or were made redundant due to the Covid-19 outbreak. New applicants are required to wait about five weeks for the funds to start being paid.

    xclausx

    April 26, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    • Shows how badly the situation over many years was handled,they couldn’t have cared less when people fell through the safety net or what happened to them.

      ‘I was forced into prostitution by Universal Credit’

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-46235842

      If people turn to that then there will be another health problem.

      ken

      April 26, 2020 at 8:05 pm

      • life is going to get real bad, Ken

        xclausx

        April 26, 2020 at 8:09 pm

      • Ken, the local food bank has been closed for the past 7 weeks, not just the local one though,

        xclausx

        April 26, 2020 at 8:26 pm

      • Number of food parcels given out across UK soars 73% in five years*

        New data released today shows April 2018 to March 2019 to be the busiest year for food banks in the Trussell Trust’s network since the charity opened. During the past year, 1,583,668 three-day emergency food supplies were given to people in crisis in the UK; More than half a million of these (577,618) went to children. This is an 18.8% increase on the previous year.

        https://www.trusselltrust.org/2019/04/25/record-1-6m-food-bank-parcels/

        xclausx

        April 26, 2020 at 8:47 pm

      • @ken. This pandemic is showing many people just what the reality is for people on benefits. And how they have almost destroyed social security in the UK.

        Jeff Smith

        April 26, 2020 at 11:09 pm

  452. the only thing that really matters is the money and rich ppl that do not work to earn the money.

    problem is this time round it is not going to work the uk is bankrupt gdp is way over 100% now and debt rising at unseen levels ever b4 and yet ten years of cuts to pay off this so called debt turned out to be just borrow 3 times more than it was in 2009 so not 1p was paid of the debt.

    why should i go to work 7 days a week to pay tax so the government can pay off the interest payments of a loan ie the national debt?

    you cant keep printing money at the end of the day or it is going to cost £50000 for a can of coke lol.

    superted

    April 26, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    • Thats why its been called boom bust,what goes around comes around.Well said Superted.

      ken

      April 26, 2020 at 11:12 pm

      • Der sieg wird unser sein.

        Billy Boyne

        April 28, 2020 at 1:19 pm

  453. Ghastly, thro’ the drizzling rain,
    On the bald street where the derelict jobcentre lies
    And abandoned souls of decisions past made lie dead,
    Contained within the foreboding walls,
    Breaks the blank day

    A Not So Random Poet

    April 26, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    • Very good. I particularly like the line ‘on the bald street where the derelict jobcentre lies.’
      Gives a real sense of atmosphere.

      Random Poet

      April 26, 2020 at 11:03 pm

  454. The online journal must be one of the worst features of Universal Credit. Any clown from the DWP can make alterations to your Claimant Commitment.

    Darren

    April 27, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    • @darren: It shows the true character of Universal Credit. A greasy pole that the DWP try to throw you off at the first opportunity.

      Barry

      April 27, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    • The flip side is an unscrupulous person can make up any old crap for their job search and there’s not a damn thing they can do to check it. No that I’m suggesting you should do that of course.

      bob

      April 28, 2020 at 1:28 am

      • @bob

        No, of course you’re not, dear. Heaven forbid.

        jj joop

        April 28, 2020 at 10:08 am

      • Someone, maybe on here, even suggested sending out blank CVs! Who the hell would do a thing like that!?

        The Dilligent Jobseekers

        April 28, 2020 at 12:46 pm

      • It depends on the employer. Speaking as someone with a performing arts background I would say that an arty-farty employer would very much welcome a blank CV, would positively enthuse over one, since it shows an exceptional level of ‘creativity’. Some professions are seeking those who can ‘think outside of the box’, ‘don’t follow the herd’. For a lot of jobs a blank CV is the way to go!

        Actor and Director

        April 28, 2020 at 12:54 pm

      • It’s like that modern art malarkey. Some geezer frames a blank piece of paper, calls it superted’s CV. Those art critics luvvies fawn over it. It goes to auction and gets sold to some rich bloke for millions of nicker ££s.

        Londoner

        April 28, 2020 at 1:00 pm

      • i do send a real cv to every job i apply for tho it might as well be blank as never get a reply anyway.

        you can not apply for any jobs unless you upload something to the job sites it is up to you what you upload to it.

        anyone remember ujm and the plug in that would auto apply for every job on the site pmsl and never got a reply on there either 😉

        superted

        April 28, 2020 at 1:19 pm

  455. DWP accused of ‘discriminating’ against disabled people in coronavirus pandemic
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-accused-discriminating-against-disabled-21933803

    superted

    April 27, 2020 at 7:30 pm

  456. Exactly ken, I started cutting my own hair after I went in and told the guy to just trim it and give it some shape and he ended up just about cutting it all off and then he had the nerve to look at me and say “ I left it a little long so you could style it” never paying for a hair cut again.

    Worzel Gummidge

    April 27, 2020 at 7:36 pm

  457. @superted – It’s going to be very difficult for the DWP to keep up this pathetic piece of spite against the legacy claimants. With a bit of luck the 100 organisations are going to get the extra money for the disabled, and the ordinary JSA claimants. #EqualPayJSA

    Jeff Smith

    April 27, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    • it was only a matter of time but just think what the dwp are planning for the 1.5 million sheep with on line uc accounts.

      there going to pay for that extra 20 quid a week with conditionally turned up to 15 as i doubt the dwp is going to change its policy any time soon and ramp it up like never b4.

      dont forget they closed 40% of job centers there is not enough room for this many unemployed to even be seen in a jcp office any more let alone the staff.

      i can see it now like me and others said years ago on here sanctioned buy the press of a button buy anyone with access to a uc claim.

      job searches uploaded to the journal or sanctions if you failed to comply.

      cc changed to unreasonable requests and fail to accept hole claim shut down.

      and dont forget the old mwa that a provider could still send you to fancy picking spuds for your benefits for the next 3 months.

      and if you are late 1 day could get a 28 day sanction on uc and still have to attend as well you did sign the providers contract after all so it is your fault 😉

      these ppl are going to get the shock of there lives like lambs to the slaughter it wont happen straight away but give it 6 months and see if i am wrong.

      last time i asked to use to bog at the jcp they told me to go take a dump in the local park as not allowed to use there toilet.

      they even put the pip assessment office on the second floor and disabled the lift for years, wonder why with all the cctv cams lol.

      and that just shows you what type off ppl work at the dwp.

      superted

      April 27, 2020 at 9:24 pm

  458. While the DWP are claiming all hands on deck processing claims and we’re on it everywhere else in the government,the headines continue regarding Universal Credit,all it does is feed a crisis.

    More than 1.5 million new claims to Universal Credit since lockdown introduced

    More than 1.5 million new claims have been made to Universal Credit since the Government’s lockdown measures were introduced in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

    Additional figures show that 3 million people are already claiming Universal Credit.

    https://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/134054/more-than-15-million-new-claims-to-universal-credit-since-lockdown-introduced

    Major changes to Universal Credit called for as more families go hungry

    Ditch the benefit cap, bedroom tax and make Universal Credit advance payments are all being called for

    The government is facing calls to make sweeping changes to the benefits system as more people in our region face poverty as a result of the coronavirus crisis.

    Jane Corbett, Liverpool Council assistant mayor and lead for fairness and equality, is calling on the government to ditch the benefit cap, the bedroom tax and the two child limit, as part of a raft of measures to help families.

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/major-changes-universal-credit-called-18159614

    Ten-fold rise in Universal Credit applications by Southwark tenants

    Without being paid in advance, claimants can be left with a four or five week wait for their payments to come through; in turn driving up demand for emergency support from Southwark’s food banks which are already under extreme pressure.

    https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/ten-fold-rise-in-universal-credit-applications-by-southwark-tenants/

    ken

    April 27, 2020 at 11:19 pm

  459. @superted – You are so right there. Some of these claimants will have no idea until confronted with the reality of making a claim. I always remember a claimant,he must have been near retirement, from a couple of years ago. Looked like he hadn’t been in a Jobcentre in 30 years. He starts arguing with the Work Coach, that he wanted to claim ‘Unemployment Benefit.’ She starts telling him he hadn’t got any evidence of jobsearch. Then he says she didn’t understand, he just wanted to claim Unemployment Benefit ! Then the Work Coach starts repeating that he hadn’t got any jobsearch evidence. By now he’s starting to get angry, and the security guards are looking over. People waiting to sign, are smirking and laughing as this goes on. But this guy is not discouraged. And he starts explaining to the Work Coach, slowly, as if talking to an idiot, that he just wants his ‘Unemployment Benefit.’ Of course she just repeats that he hasn’t got any jobsearch evidence. That was it, he’d had enough. He stands up, and says he’s not coming in the bloody place again. And strides out of the door. The Work Coach just smiles, picks up the paperwork from the desk, and goes over to talk to her supervisor. This guy seemed to think you could just turn up at the Jobcentre. Sign your name, get the money and go. With no jobsearch required or anything. He’d paid his National Insurance, and now they owed him the money.

    Jeff Smith

    April 27, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    • Reminds me of a time I was in the Jobcentre during the financial crisis. I was sat at a desk with my adviser, when I became aware of a man in his 50s in the next cubicle becoming increasingly irate, It seems he had just been made redundant, and had spent all of his redundancy money paying off his morgage. The adviser was doing her best to explain that because he had received a large sum of money, he was not eligible to receive any benefits. It didn’t seem to get through to him, however, becuase he kept saying the whole thing was “ridiculous”, he had “no money left” and was “going to have to sell the house”. In the end he just stormed out of the Jobcentre muttering to himself.

      bob

      April 28, 2020 at 1:22 am

  460. Keep posting my pretties, keep posting.

    The Ghost of Andrew Coates

    April 28, 2020 at 10:14 am

  461. Cheltenham student teacher mum plunged into £22,000 debt due to benefits error

    The 31-year-old who is based in Cheltenham and has two daughters said ‘I honestly don’t know what to do’ after she was mistakenly given £22,000 in benefits by the Department of Work and Pensions

    https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/cheltenham-student-teacher-mum-plunged-4082199

    superted

    April 28, 2020 at 1:13 pm

  462. Dinna fash yersel Andrew. Thare ur mony oan ‘ere that wull keep th’ blog gaun ’til ye come back. It’s a lang road that’s na goat a turnin.’

    Angus McGilvey

    April 28, 2020 at 2:00 pm

  463. DWP under fire over “two tier” benefit system for the poor during coronavirus

    The UK Government has been called on to ensure the rise for Universal Credit is matched for other benefits

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-under-fire-over-two-21934622

    ken

    April 28, 2020 at 3:06 pm

    • @ken – ‘A DWP spokesperson said people can top up their JSA payments with Universal Credit depending on their family income’. This is absolute rubbish. The DWP are trying to bullshit their way out of giving the £20 increase directly to JSA legacy claimants. You can’t possibly still claim JSA, and ‘top it up’ with Universal Credit. This is nonsense. The facts are you would have to give up your JSA. And then make a new Universal Credit claim, to get the extra money. But they are trying to disguise this part of it.
      It’s not good enough, and I hope people are not going to let them get away with it. The £20 needs to be paid across the board, on an equal basis, to legacy claimants and Universal Credit claimants alike.
      #EqualPayJSA

      Jeff Smith

      April 28, 2020 at 4:21 pm

  464. Coronavirus: UK contact-tracing app ‘ready in two to three weeks’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52458759

    Coronavirus: Everything you need to know about the contact-tracing app

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/coronavirus-app-nhs-contact-tracing-download-how-when-a9488146.html

    xclausx

    April 29, 2020 at 9:13 am

  465. Does no one seriously know Andrew Coates personally ?

    Its been a considerable amount of time now since he last posted which is totally out of character for him.

    Doug

    April 29, 2020 at 10:08 am

    • @Doug

      I have checked the announcements sections of newspapers in and around Ipswich but there is no mention of his passing. I’ve also checked socialist and left-wing websites; the same result. If he was deceased, there would be at least some mention or tribute to him. So I don’t know what to tell you. May be he’s just tired of the whole political scene and decided to call it a day.

      jj joop

      April 29, 2020 at 10:22 am

      • It wouldn’t be hime to give up.

        xclausx

        April 29, 2020 at 10:25 am

      • DWP office closed in Sunderland after staff test positive for COVID-19

        Staff at a Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) office in Sunderland have been told to self-isolate after workers there tested positive for coronavirus.

        Four employees were found to have COVID-19 in the organisation’s operation in Wear View House on Eden Street West yesterday.

        As a result, the office has been closed for a deep clean.

        https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2020-04-29/dwp-office-closed-in-sunderland-after-staff-test-positive-for-covid-19/

        ken

        April 29, 2020 at 12:37 pm

      • @Doug; Maybe it’s just that he doesn’t have internet access at home ? And uploads his posts to the blog from Ipswich Library ?

        Jack

        April 29, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    • Trying to find him.

      xclausx

      April 29, 2020 at 11:01 am

  466. How do you account for the late Andrew Coates uploading posts on, for example, Christmas Day? Ipswich library is open on Christmas Day!? That is why Andrew Coates is presumed DEAD!! Until we receive official notification from the mortuary or a funeral director then Coates can be declared OFFICIALLY DEAD!
    And it is not like Coates was some immortal soul who was going to fight for legacy JSA claimants for all eternity. Let the man rest in peace. RIP Andrew Coates.

    Rafiqa

    April 29, 2020 at 4:20 pm

    • @rafiqa: Andrew did not post anything on Christmas Day.

      Nathan

      April 29, 2020 at 4:41 pm

  467. Ipswich Unemployed Action,
    Three simple words to say,

    The best unemployment blog there is,
    In every possible way.

    It has a loyal following,
    Like superted and ken.

    JJ and stepping razor,
    And look, Jeff Smith again !

    No other blog can match it,
    For intelligence and wit.

    Information, help and advice,
    And that’s not all of it !

    A strong sense of community,
    Shared experience as well.

    So Andrew come back quickly,
    And take the captain’s chair.

    For we need you at the helm again,
    And we wonder why you’re not there ?

    Random Poet

    April 29, 2020 at 4:29 pm

  468. @random: Another classic Random. Who could resist this ? Andrew, phone home.

    Desmond

    April 29, 2020 at 4:45 pm

  469. This is what happens when something unfortunate happens and no one else has the ‘keys to the castle’. Coates naively believed that he was an Immortal who would still be posting on here and claiming legacy JSA in the 25th century and beyond. Unfortunately life and death does not work like that. We are left to wonder what became of Coates gold and bitcoin that he so often talked about. Gone with him no doubt.

    Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century

    April 29, 2020 at 5:01 pm

    • Unless he is on a secret mission for the Illuminati ?

      Dave

      April 29, 2020 at 7:11 pm

      • Like Rudolph Hess ?

        Billy Boyne

        April 29, 2020 at 9:20 pm

  470. Olympic opening ceremony 2012 stage like a coronavirus – talk about predictive programming!

    Cloverleaf

    April 30, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    • Pure Evil indeed… What an ugly, disgusting freakshow, this has been planned for donkeys… Sheeple need to wake up fast, there is a shitstorm coming!

      Tigerlily

      April 30, 2020 at 2:14 pm

  471. A Counterblaste To Tobacco – King James 1 Of England – 1604

    That the manifolde abuses of this vile custome of Tobacco taking, may the better be espied, it is fit, that first you enter into consideration both of the first originall thereof, and likewise of the reasons of the first entry thereof into this Countrey. For certainely as such customes, that have their first institution either from a godly, necessary, or honorable ground, and are first brought in, by the meanes of some worthy, vertuous, and great Personage, are ever, and most justly, holden in great and reverent estimation and account, by all wise, vertuous, and temperate spirits: So should it by the contrary, justly bring a great disgrace into that sort of customes, which having their originall from base corruption and barbarity, doe in like sort, make their first entry into a Countrey, by an inconsiderate and childish affectation of Noveltie, as is the true case of the first invention of Tobacco taking, and of the first entry thereof among us. For Tobacco being a common herbe, which (though under divers names) growes almost every where, was first found out by some of the barbarous Indians, to be a Preservative, or Antidot against the Pockes, a filthy disease, whereunto these barbarous people are (as all men know) very much subject, what through the uncleanly and adust constitution of their bodies, and what through the intemperate heate of their Climat: so that as from them was first brought into Christendome, that most detestable disease, so from them likewise was brought this use of Tobacco, as a stinking and unsavorie Antidot, for so corrupted and execrable a Maladie, the stinking Suffumigation whereof they yet use against that disease, making so one canker or venime to eate out another.

    And now good Countrey men let us (I pray you) consider, what honour or policie can moove us to imitate the barbarous and beastly maners of the wilde, godlesse, and slavish Indians, especially in so vile and stinking a custome? Shall wee that disdaine to imitate the maners of our neighbour France (having the stile of the first Christian Kingdom) and that cannot endure the spirit of the Spaniards (their King being now comparable in largenes of Dominions, to the great Emperor of Turkie) Shall wee, I say, that have bene so long civill and wealthy in Peace, famous and invincible in Warre, fortunate in both, we that have bene ever able to aide any of our neighbours (but never deafed any of their eares with any of our supplications for assistance) shall we, I say, without blushing, abase our selves so farre, as to imitate these beastly Indians, slaves to the Spaniards, refuse to the world, and as yet aliens from the holy Covenant of God? Why doe we not as well imitate them in walking naked as they doe? in preferring glasses, feathers, and such toyes, to golde and precious stones, as they do? yea why do we not denie God and adore the Devill, as they doe?

    Now to the corrupted basenesse of the first use of this Tobacco, doeth very well agree the foolish and groundlesse first entry thereof into this Kingdome. It is not so long since the first entry of this abuse amongst us here, as this present age cannot yet very well remember, both the first Author, and the forme of the first introduction of it amongst us. It was neither brought in by King, great Conquerour, nor learned Doctor of Phisicke.

    With the report of a great discovery for a Conquest, some two or three Savage men, were brought in, together with this Savage custome. But the pitie is, the poore wilde barbarous men died, but that vile barbarous custome is yet alive, yea in fresh vigor: so as it seemes a miracle to me, how a custome springing from so vile a ground, and brought in by a father so generally hated, should be welcomed upon so slender a warrant. For if they that first put it in practise heere, had remembred for what respect it was used by them from whence it came, I am sure they would have bene loath, to have taken so farre the imputation of that disease upon them as they did, by using the cure thereof. For Sanis non est opus medico, and counterpoisons are never used, but where poyson is thought to precede.

    But since it is true, that divers customes slightly grounded, and with no better warrant entred in a Commonwealth, may yet in the use of them thereafter, proove both necessary and profitable; it is therefore next to be examined, if there be not a full Svmpathie and true Proportion, betweene the base ground and foolish entrie, and the loathsome, and hurtfull use of this stinking Antidote.

    I am now therefore heartily to pray you to consider, first upon what false and erroneous grounds you have first built the generall good liking thereof; and next, what sinnes towards God, and foolish vanities before the world you commit, in the detestable use of it.

    As for these deceitfull grounds, that have specially mooved you to take a good and great conceit thereof, I shall content my selfe to examine here onely foure of the principals of them; two founded upon the Theoricke of a deceivable appearance of Reason, and two of them upon the mistaken Practicke of generall Experience.

    First, it is thought by you a sure Aphorisme in the Physickes, That the braines of all men, beeing naturally colde and wet, all dry and hote things should be good for them; of which nature this stinking suffumigation is, and therefore of good use to them. Of this Argument, both the Proposition and Assumption are false, and so the Conclusion cannot but be voyd of it selfe. For as to the Proposition, That because the braines are colde and moist, therefore things that are hote and drie are best for them, it is an inept consequence: For man beeing compounded of the foure Complexions, (whose fathers are the foure Elements) although there be a mixture of them all in all the parts of his body, yet must the divers parts of our Microcosme or little world within our selves, be diversly more inclined, some to one, some to another complexion, according to the diversitie of their uses, that of these discords a petfect harmonie may bee made up for the maintenance of the whole body.

    The application then of a thing of a contrary nature, to any of these parts, is to interrupt them of their due function, and by consequence hurtfull to the health of the whole body. As if a man, because the Liver is hote (as the fountaine of blood) and as it were an oven to the stomacke, would therfore apply and weare close upon his Liver and stomacke a cake of lead; he might within a very short time (I hope) be susteined very good cheape at an Ordinarie, beside the cleering of his conscience from that deadly sinne of gluttonie. And as if, because the Heart is full of vitall spirits, and in perpetuall motion, a man would therefore lay a heavy pound stone on his breast, for staying and holding downe that wanton palpitation, I doubt not but his breast would bee more bruised with the weight thereof, then the heart would be comforted with such a disagreeable and contrarious cure. And even so is it with the Braines. For if a man, because the Braines are colde and humide, would therefore use inwardly by smells, or outwardly by application, things of hot and drie qualitie, all the gaine that he could make thereof, would onely be to put himselfe in a great forwardnesse for running mad, by over-watching him selfe, the coldnesse and moistnesse of is our braine beeing the onely ordinarie meanes that procure our sleepe and rest. Indeed I do not denie, but when it falls out that any of these, or any part of our bodie growes to be distempered, and to tend to ail extremitie, beyond the compasse of Natures temperate mixture, that in that case cures of contrary qualities, to the intemperate inclination of that part, being wisely prepared and discreetely ministered, may be both necessarie and helpefull for strengtbniug and assisting Nature in the expulsion of her enemies: for this is the true definition of all profitable Physicke.

    But first these Cures ought not to bee used, but where there is neede of them, the contrarie whereof, is daily practised in this generall use of Tobacco by all sorts and complexions of people.

    And next, I deny the Minor of this argument, as I have already said, in regard that this Tobacco, is not simply of a dry and hot qualitie; but rather hath a certaine venemous facultie joyned with the heate thereof, which makes it have an Antipathie against nature, as by the hatefull smell thereof doeth well appeare. For the Nose being the proper Organ and convoy of the sense of smelling to the braines, which are the onely fountaine of that sense, doeth ever serve us for an infallible witnesse, whether that Odour which we smell, be healthfull or hurtfull to the braine (except when it fals out that the sense it selfe is corrupted and abused through some infirmitie, and distemper in the braine.) And that the suffumigation thereof cannot have a drying qualitie, it needes no further probation, then that it is a smoake, all smoake and vapour, being of it selfe humide, as drawing neere to the nature of the ayre, and easie to be resolved againe into water, whereof there needes no other proofe but the Meteors, which being bred of nothing else but of the vapours and exhalations sucked up by the Sunne out of the earth, the Sea, and waters yet are the sarne smoakie vapours turned, and transformed into Raynes, Snowes, Deawes, hoare Frostes, and such like waterie Meteors, as by the contrarie the raynie cloudes are often transformed and evaporated in blustering winds.

    The second Argument grounded on a show of reason is, That this filthie smoake, aswell through the heat and strength thereof, as by a naturall force and qualitie, is able and fit to purge both the head and stomacke of Rhewmes and distillations, as experience teacheth, by the spitting and avoyding fleame, immediately after the taking of it. But the fallacie of this Argument may easily appeare, by my late preceding description of the Meteors. For even as the smoakie vapours sucked up by the Sunne, and staied in the lowest and colde Region of the ayre, are there contracted into cloudes and turned into raine and such other watery Meteors: So this stinking smoake being sucked up by the Nose, and imprisoned in the colde and moyst braines, is by their colde and wett facultie, turned and cast foorth againe in waterie distillations, and so are you made free and purged of nothing, but that wherewith you wilfully burdened your selves: and therefore are you no wiser in taking Tobacco for purging you of distillations, then if for preventing the Cholike you would take all kinde of windie meates and drinkes, and for preventing of the Stone, you would take all kinde of meates and drinkes that would breede gravell in the Kidneyes, and then when you were forced to avoyde much winde out of your stomacke, and much gravell in your Urine, that you should attribute the thanke thereof to such nourishments as bred those within you, that behoved either to be expelled by the force of Nature, or you to have burst at the broadside, as the Proverbe is.

    As for the other two reasons founded upon experience, the first of which is, That the whole people would not have taken so generall a good liking thereof, if they had not by experience found it verie soveraigne and good for them: For answere thereunto how easily the mindes of any people, wherewith God hath replenished this world, may be drawen to the foolish affectation of any noveltie, I leave it to the discreetjudgement of any man that is reasonable.

    Doe we not dayly see, that a man can no sooner bring over from beyond the Seas any new forme of apparell, but that hee can not bee thought a man of spirit, that would not presently imitate the same? And so from hand to hand it spreades, till it be practised by all, not for any commoditie that is in it, but only because it is come to be the fashion. For such is the force of that naturall Selfe-love in every one of us, and such is the corruption of envie bred in the brest of every one, as we cannot be content unlesse we imitate every thing that our fellowes doe, and so proove our selves capable of every thing whereof they are capable, like Apes, counterfeiting the maners of others, to our owne destruction. For let one or two of the greatest Masters of Mathematickes in any of the two famous Universities, but constantly affirme any cleare day, that they see some strange apparition in the skies: they will I warrant you be seconded by the greatest part of the Students in that profession: So loath will they be, to bee thought inferiour to their fellowes, either in depth of knowledge or sharpnesse of sight: And therefore the generall good liking and imbracing of this foolish custome, doeth but onely proceede from that affectation of noveltie, and popular errour, whereof I have already spoken.

    The other argument drawen from a mistaken experience, is but the more particular probation of this generall, because it is alleaged to be found true by proofe, that by the taking of Tobacco divers and very many doe finde themselves cured of divers diseases as on the other part, no man ever received harme thereby. In this argument there is first a great mistaking and next a monstrous absurditie. For is it not a very great mistaking, to take Non causam pro causa, as they say in the Logicks? because peradventure when a sicke man hath had his disease at the height, hee hath at that instant taken Tobacco, and afterward his disease taking the naturall course of declining, and consequently the patient of recovering his health, O then the Tobacco forsooth, was the worker of that miracle. Beside that, it is a thing well knoweil to all Phisicians, that the apprehension and conceit of the patient hath by wakening and uniting the vitall spirits, and so strengthening nature, a great power and vertue, to cure divers diseases. For an evident proofe of mistaking in the like case, I pray you what foolish boy, what sillie wench, what olde doting wife, or ignorant countrey clowne, is not a Phisician for the toothach, for the cholicke, and divers such common diseases? Yea, will not every man you meete withal, teach you a sundry cure for the same, and sweare by that meane either himselfe, or some of his neerest kinsmen and friends was cured? And yet I hope no man is so foolish as to beleeve them. And al these toyes do only proceed from the mistaking Non causam pro causa, as I have already sayd, and so if a man chance to recover one of any disease, after he hath taken Tobacco, that must have the thankes of all. But by the contrary, if a man smoke himselfe to death with it (and many have done) O then some other disease must beare the blame for that fault. So doe olde harlots thanke their harlotrie for their many yeeres, that custome being healthfull (say they) ad purgandos Renes, but never have minde how many die of the Pockes in the flower of their youth. And so doe olde drunkards thinke they prolong their dayes, by their swinelike diet, but never remember howe many die drowned in drinke before they be halfe olde.

    And what greater absurditie can there bee, then to say that one cure shall serve for divers, nay, contrarious sortes of diseases? It is all undoubted ground among all Phisicians, that there is almost no sort either of nourishment or medicine, that hath not some thing in it disagreeable to some part of mans bodie, because, as I have already sayd, the nature of the temperature of every part, is so different from another, that according to the olde proverbe, That which is good for the head, is evill for the necke and the shoulders. For even as a strong enemie, that invades a towne or fortresse, although in his siege thereof, he do belaie and compasse it round about, yet he makes his breach and entrie, at some one or few special parts thereof, which hee hath tried and found to bee weakest and least able to resist; so sickenesse doth make her particular assault, upon such part or parts of our bodie, as are weakest and easiest to be overcome by that sort of disease, which then doth assaile us, although all the rest of the body by Sympathie feele it selfe, to be as it were belaied, and besieged by the affliction of that speciall part, the griefe and smart thereof being by the sence of feeling dispersed through all the rest of our members. And therefore the skilfull Phisician presses by such cures, to purge and strengthen that part which is afflicted, as are only fit for that sort of disease, and doe best agree with the nature of that infirme part; which being abused to a disease of another nature, would proove as hurtfull for the one, as helpfull for the other. Yea, not only will a skilfull. and warie Phisician bee carefull to use no cure but that which is fit for that sort of disease, but he wil also consider all other circumstances, and make the remedies sutable thereunto: as the temperature of the clime where the Patient is, the constitution of the Planets, the time of the Moone, the season of the yere, the age and complexion of the Patient, and the present state of his body, in strength or weaknesse. For one cure must not ever be used for the self-same disease, but according to the varying of any of the foresaid circumstances, that sort of remedie must be used which is fittest for the same. Whear by the contrarie in this case, such is the miraculous omnipotencie of our strong tasted Tobacco, as it cures all sorts of diseases (which never any drugge could do before) in all persons, and at all times. It cures all manner of distillations, either in the head or stomacke (if you beleeve their Axiomes) although in very deede it doe both corrupt the braine, and by causing over quicke digestion, fill the stomacke full of crudities. It cures the Gowt in the feet, and (which is miraculous) in that very instant when the smoke thereof, as light, flies up into the head, the vertue thereof, as heavie, runs downe to the little toe. It helpes all sorts of Agues. It makes a man sober that was drunke. It refreshes a weary man, and yet makes a man hungry. Being taken when they goe to bed, it makes one sleepe soundly, and yet being taken when a man is sleepie and drowsie, it will, as they say, awake his braine, and quicken his understanding. As for curing of the Pockes, it serves for that use but among the pockie Indian slaves. Here in England it is refined, and will not deigne to cure heere any other then cleanly and gentlemanly diseases. O omnipotent power of Tobacco! And if it could by the smoke thereof chace out devils, as the smoke of Tobias fish did (which I am sure could smel no stronglier) it would serve for a precious Relicke, both for the superstitious Priests, and the insolent Puritanes, to cast out devils withall.

    Admitting then, and not confessing that the use thereof were healthfull for some sortes of diseases; should it be used for all sicknesses? should it be used by all men? should it be used at al times? yea should it be used by able, yong, strong, healthful men? Medicine hath that vertue, that it never leaveth a man in that state wherin it findeth him: it makes a sicke man whole, but a whole man sicke. And as Medicine helpes nature being taken at times of necessitie, so being ever and continually used, it doth but weaken, wearie, and weare nature. What speake I of Medicine? Nay let a man every houre of the day, or as oft as many in this countrey use to take Tobacco, let a man I say, but take as oft the best sorts of nourishments in meate and drinke that can bee devised, hee shall with the continuall use thereof weaken both his head and his stomacke: all his members shall become feeble, his spirits dull, and in the end, as a drowsie lazie belly-god, he shall evanish in a Lethargie.

    And from this weaknesse it proceeds, that many in this kingdome have had such a continuall use of taking this uusavorie smoke, as now they are not able to forbeare the same, no more then an olde drunkard can abide to be long sober, without falling into an uncurable weaknesse and evill constitution: for their continuall custome hath made to them, habitum, alteram naturam: so to those that from their birth have bene continually nourished upon poison and things venemous, wholesome meates are onely poisonable.

    Thus having, as I truste, sufficiently answered the most principall arguments that are used in defence of this vile custome, it rests onely to informe you what sinnes and vanities you commit in the filthie abuse thereof. First, are you not guiltie of sinnefull and shamefull lust? (for lust may bee as well in any of the senses as in feeling) that although you bee troubled with no disease, but in perfect health, yet can you neither be merry at an Ordinarie, nor lascivious in the Stewes, if you lacke Tobacco to provoke your appetite to any of those sorts of recreation, lusting after it as the children of Israel did in the wildernesse after Quailes? Secondly it is, as you use or rather abuse it, a branche of the sinne of drunkennesse, which is the roote of all sinnes: for as the onely delight that drunkards take in Wine is in the strength of the taste, and the force of the fume thereof that mounts up to the braine: for no drunkards love any weake, or sweete drinke: so are not those (I meane the strong heate and the fume) the onely qualities that make Tobacco so delectable to all the lovers of it? And as no man likes strong headie drinke the first day (because nemo repente fit turpissimus) but by custome is piece and piece allured, while in the ende, a drunkard will have as great a thirst to bee drunke, as a sober man to quench his thirst with a draught when hee hath need of it: So is not this the very case of all the great takers of Tobacco? which therefore they themselves do attribute to a bewitching qualitie in it. Thirdly, is it not the greatest sinne of all, that you the people of all sortes of this Kingdome, who are created and ordeined by God to bestowe both your persons and goods for the maintenance both of the honour and safetie of your King and Commonweath, should disable your selves in both? In your persons having by this continuall vile custome brought your selves to this shameful imbecilitie, that you are not able to ride or walke the journey of a Jewes Sabboth, but you must have a reekie cole brought you from the next Poore house to kindle your Tobacco with? whereas he cannot be thought able for any service in the warres, that cannot endure oftentimes the want of meate, drinke and sleepe, much more then must hee endure the want of Tobacco. In the times of the many glorious and victorious battailes fought by this Nation, there was no word of Tobacco. But now if it were time of warres, and that you were to make some sudden Cavalcado upon your enemies, if any of you should seeke leisure to stay behinde his fellowe for taking of Tobacco, for my part I should never bee sorie for any evill chance that might befall him. To take a custome in any thing that cannot bee left againe, is most harmefull to the people of any land. Mollicies and delicacie were the wracke and overthrow, first of the Persian, and next of the Romane Empire. And this very custome of taking Tobacco (whereof our present purpose is) is even at this day accounted so effeminate among the Indians themselves, as in the market they will offer no price for a slave to be sold, whome they finde to be a great Tobacco taker.

    Now how you are by this custome disabled in your goods, let the Gentry of this land beare witnesse, some of them bestowing three, some foure hundred pounds a yeere upon this precious stinke, which I am sure might be bestowed upon many farre better uses. I read indeede of a knavish Courtier, who for abusing the favour of the Emperour Alexander Severus his Master by taking bribes to intercede, for sundry persons in his Masters eare (for whom he never once opened his mouth) was justly choked with smoke, with this doome, Fumo pereat, qui fumum vendidit: but of so many smoke-buyers, as are at this present in this kingdome, I never read nor heard.

    And for the vanities committed in this filthie custome, is it not both great vanitie and uncleanenesse, that at the table, a place of respect, of cleanlinesse, of modestie, men should not be ashamed, to sit tossing of Tobacco pipes, and puffing of the smoke of Tobacco one to another, making the filthy smoke and stinke thereof, to exhale athwart the dishes, and infect the aire, when very often, men that abhorre it are at their repast? Surely Smoke becomes a kitchin far better then a Dining chamber, and yet it makes a kitchin also oftentimes in the inward parts of men, soiling and infecting them, with an unctuous and oily kinde of Soote, as hath bene found in some great Tobacco takers, that after their death were opened. And not onely meate time, but no other time nor action is exempted from the publike use of this uncivill tricke: so as if the wives of Diepe list to contest with this Nation for good maners their worst maners would in all reason be found at least not so dishonest (as ours are) in this point. The publike use whereof, at all times, and in all places, hath now so farre prevailed, as divers men very sound both in judgement, and complexion, have bene at last forced to take it also without desire, partly because they were ashanied to seeme singular, (like the two Philosophers that were forced to duck themselves in that raine water, and so become fooles aswell as the rest of the people) and partly, to be as one that was content to eate Garlicke (which hee did not love) that he might not be troubled with the smell of it, in the breath of his fellowes. And is it not a great vanitie, that a man cannot heartily welcome his friend now, but straight they must bee in hand with Tobacco? No it is become in place of a cure, a point of good fellowship, and he that will refuse to take a pipe of Tobacco among his fellowes, (though by his own election he would rather feele the savour of a Sinke) is accounted peevish and no good company, even as they doe with tippeling in the cold Easterne Countries. Yea the Mistresse cannot in a more manerly kinde, entertaine her servant, then by giving him out of her faire hand a pipe of Tobacco. But herein is not onely a great vanitie but a great contempt of Gods good giftes, that the sweetenesse of mans breath, being a good gift of God, should be willfully corrupted by this stinking smoke, wherein I must confesse, it hath too strong a vertue: and so that which is an ornament of nature, and can neither by any artifice be at the first acquired, nor once lost, be recovered againe, shall be filthily cOrrupted with an incurable stinke, which vile qualitie is as directly contrary to that wrong opinion which is holden of the wholesomnesse thereof, as the venime of putrifaction is contrary to the vertue Preservative.

    Moreover, which is a great iniquitie, and against all humanitie, the husband shall not bee ashamed, to reduce thereby his delicate, wholesome, and cleane complexioned wife, to that extremitie, that either shee must also corrupt her sweete breath therewith, or else resolve to live in a perpetuall stinking torment.

    Have you not reason then to bee ashamed, and to forbeare this filthie noveltie, so basely grounded, so foolishly received and so grossely mistaken in the right use thereof? In your abuse thereof sinning against God, harming your selves both in persons and goods, and raking also thereby the markes and notes of vanitie upon you: by the custome thereof making your selves to be wondered at by all forraine civil Nations, and by all strangers that come among you, to be scorned and contemned. A custome lothsome to the eye, hatefull to the Nose, harmefull to the braine, dangerous to the Lungs, and in the blacke stinking fume thereof, neerest resembling the horrible Stigian smoke of the pit that is bottomelesse.

    Smokey Joe

    April 30, 2020 at 2:30 pm

  472. DWP faces High Court challenge from family of 5-stone man who starved to death
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-faces-high-court-challenge-21957076

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 12:17 pm

  473. The British Corona middle man, seen and yet not observed!

    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/30/the-british-corona-middle-man/

    Tigerlily

    May 1, 2020 at 2:13 pm

  474. And funded by the man who wants to vaccinate everyone on the planet…. Bill Gates.

    Violet

    May 1, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    • Gates is a f¥cking psychopath, it’s given money from the central banks,money stolen from the peasants by the way, to fund this insanity!

      Tigerlily

      May 1, 2020 at 2:46 pm

  475. Coronavirus: David Icke kicked off Facebook
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52501453

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 3:44 pm

  476. might be his last youtube vid lol

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 3:49 pm

    • Icke is definitely hitting a raw nerve that’s why the 1% globalists want to shut him down, they are scared because lots more people are waking up to the hoax of the 21st century!!!

      Violet

      May 1, 2020 at 4:47 pm

      • @ Violet – People will laugh at David Icke in less serious times. The reptilian aliens, the secret World Order etc. But he has pushed his luck too far in the current crisis, with his conspiracy theories.

        Cynthia

        May 1, 2020 at 6:51 pm

      • its only an opinion and everyones entitled to one.

        David Icke’s channel deleted by YouTube

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52517797

        The Google-owned video clip service ,its that Google thing again and using Universal Credit online.

        ken

        May 2, 2020 at 8:56 pm

      • well i bet London real will be next to go on you tube but now have there own platform to release videos on and not get banned.

        https://londonreal.tv/

        reminds me of the Nazi media programme in 1940s ,we are right no matter how many has to die, get with the programme of non stop bs from the bbc /media.

        superted

        May 2, 2020 at 9:44 pm

  477. this is what a microwave can really do want more fun just up the power 😉

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 4:13 pm

  478. Fake death reports.

    Violet

    May 1, 2020 at 5:02 pm

  479. It’s become like North Korea! thats censorship.Not so long ago it was.

    Work until you DROP! Ministers WILL raise retirement age to 74 – shock Treasury prediction
    BRITONS in their 20s face decades of hard work ahead of them as the Treasury predicts the retirement age will rise by 10 years to 74 as the cost of living longer spirals out of control.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/762771/retire-pension-age-government-millennials-population-UK-74-work-OAP-money

    Thats lucky if you have a job to retire form in the first place at 65.

    ken

    May 1, 2020 at 5:50 pm

  480. Hull man left with £74 a week after ‘unable to claim’ extra benefits during lockdown

    The Department for Work and Pensions has topped up Universal Credit and Working Tax Credits by £20 a week

    However, a DWP spokesperson said job seeker’s allowance claimants could get a Universal Credit top up if they speak to their local job centre.

    Mr Oliver, who has claimed job seeker’s allowance since 2012 and suffers from joint and back problems and bouts of gout, said he was now left living on around £74-a-week.

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-job-seeker-benefits-coronavirus-4097239

    ken

    May 1, 2020 at 6:04 pm

  481. Covid 19: control of disease act 1984.

    Violet

    May 1, 2020 at 6:27 pm

  482. “So he could apply for that top up though it depends on his family’s income. Benefits were also increased in April in line with inflation.

    i can find nothing of this uc top up on jsa or any other legacy benefits it does not exist.

    and why the hell should i talk to a work coach ect about it as they wont know anything either pmsl.

    what they are saying is if you are on jsa end the claim and make a new uc claim if you want the extra 20 quid and wait 5 weeks for it or go in to debt.

    i have still not received the letter about paying back my latest budgeting loan so that looks like it has stopped but still taking it from what i owed b4 lockdown.

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    • @superted: But surely as soon as he puts in an application for a Universal Credit top-up, that is the end of his JSA claim ? You can’t claim both JSA and Universal Credit at the same time ! Yes, he might get the £20 extra, because now he is claiming Universal Credit. This sounds like a way to trick people onto a full Universal Credit claim.

      Tom Sutton

      May 1, 2020 at 6:47 pm

      • you are right you can not claim both as jsa is on the lms system and uc is on another the 2 do not talk to each other so a top up on jsa from uc is really impossible.

        jsa claimants wont get migrated over the way you think as you will be sent a letter saying that your jsa claim will end on such date and to apply for uc online or over the phone.

        i know ppl way in the past that have been refused a claim for jsa because they did not have enough ni contributions and had the phone put down on them.

        there was 2 types back then contribution based and income based jsa and after 6 months you had to go over to income based jsa.

        so if you had no ni contributions you had to specifically ask for income based jsa when making a new claim.

        superted

        May 1, 2020 at 7:19 pm

  483. i have still not received the letter about paying back my latest budgeting loan so that looks like it has stopped but still taking it from what i owed b4 lockdown.

    Those budgeting loans are a right mess,mine was supposed to be taken from my ESA as they called it the letter said which was strange as I was on Jobseekers Allowance at the time and nothing was taken for two years,I mentioned it at the Jobcentre at the time and they wern’t interested.

    ken

    May 1, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    • budgeting loans are from a different department so would have no idea what was going on there end.

      at least it is interest free, think i pay back about 8 quid per week atm.

      superted

      May 1, 2020 at 7:27 pm

      • Its a while ago Superted when the DWP issued them,I think it is different now its done by the council or something.

        I tried one of those masks it was like a bra cup strung between my ears and I wont be using one,its not hygenic,uncomfortable and theres a gap around the nose.People pull them down and handel their face and I dont like them.

        ken

        May 1, 2020 at 10:36 pm

      • i just applied on line if you are on jsa takes 5 mins, as on uc you have to do it over the phone and be claiming for 6 months plus to get one.

        https://www.gov.uk/budgeting-help-benefits/how-to-apply

        if you apply you will get a letter to sign and send back but needs to be sent back in 2 weeks or will have to apply again.

        i got it in about 2 weeks from applying and dont have to pay that part back yet as not had the letter that normally comes after.

        superted

        May 1, 2020 at 10:59 pm

      • They are useful Superted,sometime ago i had a loan with Provident for £300 and ended up paying £550 with interest.People on benefit get a very bad deal,theres nothing to stop these rates of interest here.

        ken

        May 2, 2020 at 8:32 pm

      • https://www.stepchange.org/how-we-help/debt-relief-order.aspx?channel=ppc&&WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=288026&WT.seg_1=dro&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtLT1BRD9ARIsAMH3BtWoHYuXag8JXExgO727CMCfsVFzXfzR7DkBfwI6JYCRigMvb88rrJYaAm_7EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

        my sister got one of those for near 15k worth of debt from buying crap and apple phones and provident loans over a few years.

        got it all wiped away and just does it again.

        she still has the latest iphone on contract with a ipad pro also on the same contract for 3 years and in the same amount of debt today.

        just dont go over 20k as you will have to go bankrupt 😉

        superted

        May 2, 2020 at 9:24 pm

  484. and if the jcp offices demand face masks be worn then got that covered for £45.

    https://locationclothing.com/hunter-wr-black-435-p.asp

    good luck tracking my face with one of those on pmsl.

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 7:46 pm

  485. Pausing Advance Payment deductions from UC

    “You can ask for your repayments to be delayed for up to 3 months if you can’t afford them. This is only allowed in exceptional circumstances.”
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/universal-cr

    What are the “exceptional circumstances”?

    Accept covid19 crisis and redeployment of DWP staff and resources, means the DWP will need more time to respond to this information request.

    Yours faithfully,

    Frank Zola

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/pausing_advance_payment_deductio#incoming-1564109

    lmfao

    superted

    May 1, 2020 at 9:02 pm

  486. UK food banks face record demand in coronavirus crisis

    Charities call for urgent boost to benefits, especially for families with children

    The Trussell Trust, the UK’s biggest food bank network, said it experienced its busiest ever period after lockdown was announced on 23 March, when it issued 50,000 food parcels in the space of a week, almost double its usual volume.

    A similar picture emerged from the Independent Food Aid Network (Ifan), which said its food banks recorded a 59% increase in demand for emergency food support between February and March – 17 times higher than the same period a year ago.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/01/uk-food-banks-face-record-demand-in-coronavirus-crisis

    ken

    May 1, 2020 at 10:45 pm

  487. What makes you think your Work coach is using their real name ?

    ‘Some Jobcentre Plus staff use false names on their ID badges to protect their identities, the Department for Work and Pensions has revealed.
    The department said workers were allowed to use “office names” agreed with their managers.
    Officials said the option was open to “customer-facing staff where an individual’s safety or wellbeing is demonstrably at risk”. The revelation came in response to a Freedom of Information request.

    Pete

    May 2, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    • I knew my Work Coach wasn’t really called Percy Palmer !!

      Dave Blunt

      May 2, 2020 at 6:45 pm

  488. Once upon a time there was a boy called Andrew. He lived with his mother. They were very poor. All they had was a cow. One morning, Andrew’s mother told Andrew to take their cow to market and sell her.

    On the way, Andrew met a man. He gave Andrew some magic beans for the cow. Andrew took the beans and went back home. When Andrew’s mother saw the beans she was very angry. She threw the beans out of the window. The next morning, Andrew looked out of the window. There was a giant beanstalk.

    He went outside and started to climb the beanstalk. He climbed up to the sky through the clouds. Andrew saw a beautiful castle. He went inside. Andrew heard a voice. ‘Fee, fi, fo, fum!’Andrew ran into a cupboard. An enormous giant came into the room and sat down. On the table there was a hen and a golden harp. ‘Lay!’said the giant. The hen laid an egg. It was made of gold. ‘Sing!’said the giant. The harp began to sing.

    Soon the giant was asleep. Andrew jumped out of the cupboard. He took the hen and the harp. Suddenly, the harp sang, ‘Help, master!’The giant woke up and shouted, ‘Fee, fi, fo, fum!’Andew ran and started climbing down the beanstalk. The giant came down after him. Andrew shouted, ‘Mother! Help!’Andrew’s mother took an axe and chopped down the beanstalk. The giant fell and crashed to the ground. Nobody ever saw him again. With the golden eggs and the magic harp, Andrew and his mother lived happily ever after.

    Story Time

    May 2, 2020 at 6:58 pm

  489. I don’t know abour David Icke but.

    Media Washes Hands of—and With—Boris Johnson

    As the number of official deaths in Britain now exceeds those who died during the Blitz in World War II,

    https://fair.org/home/media-washes-hands-of-and-with-boris-johnson/

    ken

    May 2, 2020 at 11:03 pm

  490. One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small
    And the ones that mother gives you, don’t do anything at all
    Go ask Alice, when she’s ten feet tall
    And if you go chasing rabbits, and you know you’re going to fall
    Tell ’em a hookah-smoking caterpillar has given you the call
    And call Alice, when she was just small
    When the men on the chessboard get up and tell you where to go
    And you’ve just had some kind of mushroom, and your mind is moving low
    Go ask Alice, I think she’ll know
    When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
    And the white knight is talking backwards
    And the red queen’s off with her head
    Remember what the dormouse said
    Feed your head, feed your head

    A Not So Random Poet

    May 3, 2020 at 10:03 am

  491. I notice the Tory right-wing are urging a return to work, before they lose any more money. You can only short-sell the stock market so far. After that you just start making a loss.

    Alan Turner

    May 3, 2020 at 12:06 pm

  492. superted

    May 4, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    • It would be interesting to see the testing measures that were put in place at the Jobcentre where there was an oubreak and much the same elsewhere in the workplace.What makes this more open to question is the fact it is a government department where it was allowed to take hold.

      If this is badly handled how us long term unemployed/disabled supposed to be managed into employment?

      ken

      May 5, 2020 at 7:39 pm

  493. Coronavirus: 2million have now claimed benefits in UK since outbreak took hold

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-coronavirus-2million-now-claimed-21972159

    Ms Coffey also dismissed calls to match the £20-a-week rise for claimants of legacy benefits JSA and ESA.

    Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Jonathan Reynolds said denying 2million ESA claimants a £20 rise “discriminates against disabled people”.Ms Coffey also dismissed calls to match the £20-a-week rise for claimants of legacy benefits JSA and ESA.

    Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Jonathan Reynolds said denying 2million ESA claimants a £20 rise “discriminates against disabled people”.

    But Ms Coffey said any changes would take “four or five months” because “that’s how long it takes our computer systems to work”.

    And she dismissed calls to scrap the benefit cap or two-child limit or bring in a Universal Basic Income.

    “It’s not my intention to change the fundamental principles or application of Universal Credit,” she said.

    what a load of bollocks as they changed the uc system fast enough yet the lms will take months to change more computer said no mantra.

    yet again the most worse off suffer the most and expected to die, what a joke.

    seems the dwp are going to carry on as normal when the jcp offices open back up and sanction time!!

    But she added claimants should still look for work wherever they are free to do so.

    that just tells me if you turn up after months and have no job search at all and dont have a very good reason and they think you are sheep they are going to try a sanction for not ase.

    superted

    May 4, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    • Yeah, good point @superted. Doesn’t take much to make a few one-click apps each week. I’d keep clicking if you can. Just to be on the safe side.

      Darren

      May 5, 2020 at 1:10 am

  494. @superted: These extra payments must have turned the stomach of the DWP. £20 a week on Universal Credit ! After they held down the benefits payments for 4 years, and then paid £1.25 a week !
    No wonder they are delaying giving anything to the ESA or JSA legacy claimants. But they are going to find this very difficult in the long-term. In reality, the DWP don’t give a toss about the JSA legacy claimants.
    To the DWP, they are just deliberately avoiding transfer to Universal Credit. A hard-core of benefit rebels. But the ESA claimants are all either too sick or disabled to work. And it’s going to be very difficult for the DWP, to keep on paying healthy Universal Credit claimants £20 extra, while refusing to pay it to the sick and disabled.
    There is of course another alternative. The original £20 Universal Credit payment was publicised as a ‘temporary’ measure. So they could just take it back again in 4 or 5 months .And not pay anything extra to the legacy claimants. This would be very difficult though. People on Universal Credit, have come to see the £20 as essential, to make up for all the cuts. Politically it would be a disaster to try to get it back now.

    Jeff Smith

    May 5, 2020 at 1:01 am

    • but they have put 250.000 ppl on new style jsa and you can only get this if you have been working for the last 2 years and paying in to the system.

      they will only get jsa and no extra 20 quid a week how is that even fair, its not and after 6 months will have to make a uc claim anyway.

      superted

      May 5, 2020 at 12:48 pm

      • @superted: But that means they are just going to ignore the legacy claimants ? WTF ? How is that fair ?
        Somebody needs to get onto this and pronto.

        Malcolm

        May 5, 2020 at 2:55 pm

      • Former homelessness tsar to lead coronavirus rough sleeping taskforce

        More than 90% of people known by councils to be sleeping rough have been offered accommodation to help prevent the spread of the virus since the beginning of the outbreak, some 5,400 in total, according to the department. This has been backed by £3.2m of central government funding.

        https://www.civilserviceworld.com/articles/news/former-homelessness-tsar-lead-coronavirus-rough-sleeping-taskforce

        ken

        May 5, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    • @Jeff Smith – Too right Jeff ! I can’t see how they can go like this. £20 extra to one lot and nothing to another. Either they’ll end up paying it. Or as you say they’ll just take it back again from the Universal Credit people.

      Pete

      May 5, 2020 at 2:51 pm

  495. superted

    May 5, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    • Coronavirus: UK death toll passes Italy to be highest in Europe

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52549860

      It does look like thats it.

      Lidl closes UK branch after workers contract Covid-19

      https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/05/lidl-closes-uk-branch-after-workers-contract-covid-19/

      While thats out there no ones going anywhere,with the Jobcentre outbreak also the only thing to do is vaccinate us,test us, have had the virus and recovered.The App is a waste of time without a smartphone too.

      If I had a job offered and had the skills could speak the language abroad I would go now.

      ken

      May 5, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      • Can you not just use the corona app on the library computers, ken?

        Cynthia

        May 5, 2020 at 9:20 pm

      • no because they are for Mobil devices and need to talk to all the others with the same app on to basically track you 247 with your permission! to get round the gdpr rules and regulations on sharing personnel data with 3rd party’s.

        when you start digging that hole there will be no going back as we will now have the the controller virus app so the dwp can track us 247.

        and if we do not accept the terms and conditions end of claim, computer said no.

        superted

        May 5, 2020 at 10:43 pm

      • Jog on then >>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Billy Boyne

        May 5, 2020 at 10:53 pm

  496. End the Universal Credit five-week wait ahead of potential ‘second wave’ in new claims, DWP told
    DWP urged to reconsider its decision not to turn advance payments into grants.

    The Department for Work and Pensions has been urged to reconsider its decision not to turn advance payments for Universal Credit into grants, after new figures showed that 1.9 million people have made a claim since 16 March 2020.

    Citizens Advice warns that although the rate of new claims appears to have stabilised, as claimed by Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey, frontline advisors are preparing themselves for a potential “second wave” in the summer.

    https://welfareweekly.com/end-the-universal-credit-five-week-wait-ahead-of-potential-second-wave-in-new-claims-dwp-told/

    ken

    May 5, 2020 at 9:53 pm

  497. A moment of national shame.

    U.K. Becomes COVID-19 Epicenter of Europe as New Figures Estimate More Than 30,000 Deaths

    https://time.com/5832162/uk-coronavirus-epicenter-europe/

    Only as an nation can we reunite putting intolerence hate behind us,let use build an economy to rivel the world’s greatest once again,eliminating poverty creating employment a stable society for which we will all gain the knowledge to take us forward for many generations’ the wiser to come,a world leader.Let us move on with new hope and put this failure of global propotions to past history,where there is new light hope and prosperity to all.Hence Andrew must return.

    It must be the lockdown,the queues’ at Aldi or the DWP or no smartphone.I don’t think Cynthia thought of Superted.

    ken

    May 5, 2020 at 11:26 pm

  498. Realistically, what prospect have the long-term unemployed getting of a job in the current situation ?

    Tom Sutton

    May 6, 2020 at 9:06 am

  499. ‘very significant cyber security’ built into new coronavirus contact tracing app, says Matt Hancock – never trust a tory scumbag who planned to bring in martial law long before any pandemic.

    Violet

    May 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm

  500. @Tom Sutton – Not much prospect Tom. Two Million new signers with recent work experience, who are they going to choose ? But you can bet we’ll have the usual refusal to face facts from the DWP when we get back to the Jobcentres.

    George H.

    May 6, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    • Yeah but heres the thing George H.

      Apart from a new tax year (April 5th restarts income tax and Ni figures along with 12’500 income tax allowance), quite a few SML businesses went under.
      This provides you with the opportunity to create an employed history of sorts.

      Even if you decide not to take this path then dont forget agencies couldnt give a fig where you come from.

      Putting this aside if say we start work this coming monday again, business does not know how its all going to go. Will business pick up from before or will it due to distancing, will the supply chain demand slow down if a business can only do x amount of customers in a day. What about money, customers are 20% down in pay, have racked up credit bills, suspended debt.

      Who knows, production and supply may need to make up the backdate and thus create more jobs, even open new opportunities.

      One thing for sure now more than ever is the last place anyone should be is unemployed now doing your bit for the war mantle will become very much the theme to attempt to turn the tide on a very very very bad economic situation.

      While the picture may not be so well painted, it still allows the long term unemployed to slip in while confusion and uncertainty reigns.

      Doug

      May 7, 2020 at 9:26 am

    • @George H. I’ve got to agree with you there George. It’s going to be very difficult for the long-term unemployed. Agencies are only interested in people with recent, provable work experience. The idea that you somehow ‘fake’ a failed business past, as Doug here has suggested, is not a realistic one.

      Nathan

      May 7, 2020 at 12:29 pm

      • Thats true they also want people with their own transport too.companies here went to remote areas such as venture parks because of high rents and a member of jobcentre staff mentioned to me “you need a bloody good car”.Some agency work i’ve done in the past let people go they don’t want the end of the week but most was under the 16 hours a week in another area.Without own transport life is difficult for unskilled people much of what is or was out there is shift work and could be up to 25 miles one way in some town’s.

        Locally work Programme providers left the area because there was no money here to be made leaving people.I wouldn’t entertain what Doug is suggesting.

        ken

        May 7, 2020 at 6:24 pm

      • @ken: You are right there .The transport issue is another big problem for the long-term unemployed . Once you tell the agencies you don’t have transport, particularly in rural areas, they soon lose interest. Hour and a half or two hours to get to work. Long complicated trip, for mostly minimum wage jobs. The agencies can well imagine you having to get up at dawn, and then stand in the rain for the best part of an hour waiting for a bus. And they worry about punctuality, and how long you are going to be able to stick with it. Before you give up in despair. And now there is the threat from coronavirus. Which could be a big problem for the temp/agency worker.
        Will you be working in safe conditions, with proper precautions taken against infection ? Or will you be seen as cheap, disposable labour ?

        Nathan

        May 7, 2020 at 9:15 pm

      • @Nathan

        What you talking about. The majority of people embellish, contort and yes, tell untruths on their CV all day, everyday so unrealistic it is not by any stretch of imagination.
        A person will either do all they can to better themselves or they wont, its as inherent as that.

        If a person labels themselves as long time unemployed, naturally back of the bus they will go when we talk employer attitudes even if that person could well turn out to be the best employee ever. The only way like it or not to avoid that title if true is mask the footprint which currently couldn’t be better done than right now considering the situation.

        The employer does not care about you, often lies through the teeth or completely avoiding the truth of why it wasnt you. So why should you care what tactics you use.
        If its a ethical moral thing (refuse to become what i despise), then well done, good luck getting the person at the till to accept your morals as currency.

        As for work expenses, i hear that but are you aware if you work for an agency that pays you that you can claim back the taxes on things like travel costs to a non native place of work, your business mobile costs, work clothes and more even if your PAYE.
        It wont make you wealthy but it will reduce what your paying out.
        Also dont forget your accruing holiday pay which trust me you dont want DWPs UC using as a deduction meaning spread across the life of the time worked, you worked physically less for the money when you use it inbetween working.

        Look at the gains, transform the gains so it all benefits you and you alone as i will tell you for nothing, DWP will if you wont to benefit them which will ultimately cost you again.

        Doug

        May 8, 2020 at 11:35 am

      • Maybe Nathan is a bit young/naive/inexperienced in the ways of the world/wet behind the ears. We have to allow same leeway. We all end up turning into the person we despise. ♫After 30 years I’ve become the kind of man I’ve always hated ♫ We have to to survive. It’s a big bad world out there. Employers don’t give a fig about you. Look at those who succeed. What do you see? And model yourself on them (if you want to succeed) and not the ‘losers’ stuck on the dole or working minimum wage jobs despite how intact their morals or ethics may be.

        The Big Bad Wolf

        May 8, 2020 at 1:29 pm

  501. Yeah, am taking a 20% haircut on my pay packet, doug, but tell you what I am better off. Just to fill you unemployed types in there is something called in work expenses. Putting petrol in the motor takes a ggod chunk of my wages, a lot more than 20%. No more rip off canteens and vending machines. We are cooking at home now. If we were getting paid 100% of our wages on furlough me and the missus would be laughing all the way to the bank. Long may furlough continue with one caveat – that it remains at least at the current 80% rate. Tell you what doug, I don’t trust this Sonny Rishey geezer. He is a Tony bleeding Blair clone, same mad staring eyes, even went to the same voice coach as TB it appears. Definitely after Boris job. Anyway, what worries me is that if furlough continues after the end of June that it will be ‘tapered’ down to something like 60%, then tapered even further to like 40%, till we end up on what you would get on universal bloody credit. Or we might even end up on furlough for ever, like being on the dole without having to visit a bloody jobcentre.

    Grafter

    May 7, 2020 at 12:28 pm

  502. “Sorry mate, you need to be Covid Safe 😉 ”

    Viola

    May 7, 2020 at 12:59 pm

  503. ‘Reckless and spiteful’ DWP stripping families of tax credits after an unsuccesful universal credit claim
    “If you claim universal credit, your tax credit claim will be closed, even if you aren’t eligible to receive universal credit.”

    https://welfareweekly.com/reckless-and-spiteful-dwp-stripping-families-of-tax-credits-after-an-unsuccesful-universal-credit-claim/

    ken

    May 7, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    • As we move towards the inevitable 1980s recession, we can look forward to more of this cruelty from the DWP. They have been overwhelmed by a tidal wave of fresh unemployment. And as the song says, you haven’t seen anything yet. The government pressure on the DWP to do something, anything, to cut the unemployment rate is going to be massive.

      Pete

      May 7, 2020 at 9:21 pm

  504. Cheltenham woman says she was “left in the lurch” after being given unpaid leave
    https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/cheltenham-woman-says-left-lurch-4077025

    superted

    May 7, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    • That is bad and no one should be left behind because of this all in it togeter and we’re now living in ground zero with no end in sight with this terrible virus and what the worlds press has been saying.

      Noticed on JJ Joops updates posting that their putting out the numbers of those under the benefit cap.

      At February 2020, 93% (73,000) of households that had their benefitscapped include children, with the figure at 93% (30,000) for Housing Benefit, and 92% (42,000) for Universal Credit.

      https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/benefit-cap-number-of-households-capped-to-february-2020

      ken

      May 7, 2020 at 9:51 pm

  505. @Doug; In the end you are talking about doing something dishonest. Making up false claims on a CV.
    You can get yourself in real trouble doing this. They call it obtaining employment by deception. A criminal offence ( Fraud Act 2006 – Section 2: Fraud By False Representation).
    Honesty is always the best policy.

    Nathan

    May 8, 2020 at 11:50 am

    • problem is employers want check able references from other employers theses days and most want 5 years worth with no brakes in that time.

      and as i have sent out about 20.000 to employers over the years there is no where left i have not tried so not much point telling lies on my cv.

      you can bend the truth to a point to make you look better on a cv but when the hole cv is nothing but made up start to finish you will get found out.

      not that there is going to be many jobs left to apply for anyway as this is going to be 10 times worse than in 2009 and this is just the start of it.

      if you have the cash id get one of these asap as that is gods money.;)
      https://www.gold.co.uk/gold-bars/12-5kg-good-delivery-gold-bars/12-5kg-good-delivery-gold-bar/

      superted

      May 8, 2020 at 1:05 pm

      • @superted – There is a tsunami of unemployment on the way. Many people will simply not be able to get jobs. No matter how much the Jobcentre chases after them.

        Jeff Smith

        May 8, 2020 at 1:15 pm

      • I had the same,they went on to say it was their clients.If theres a disability that can go either way,some years ago a company with a so called terrible reputaion locally removed me and placed me in another department when I had problems .I need inwork support which not all are willing to do.

        ken

        May 9, 2020 at 3:20 pm

      • There is certainly no shortage of fake, doctors, dentists and psychiatists. Just one random example of many:

        Zholia Alemi: Foreign doctor checks after fake psychiatrist case

        Some 3,000 foreign doctors in the UK are being urgently checked after a woman practised psychiatry for 22 years without any qualifications.

        New Zealander Zholia Alemi falsely claimed to have a medical degree from Auckland university when she registered in the UK in the 1995.

        But she had actually dropped out of medical school in her first year.

        The General Medical Council (GMC) – the doctors’ watchdog – has apologised for its “inadequate” checks in the 1990s.

        The GMC – which decides whether a doctor is qualified to practise in the UK – said it was sorry for “any risk arising to patients as a result” and that it was confident its current processes are “far stronger”.

        Alemi was jailed for fraud in October after she faked a dementia patient’s will in an attempt to inherit her £1.3m estate.

        Now, following an investigation by Cumbria newspaper the News and Star, a review has been triggered.

        The licences of potentially thousands of doctors are being looked at.
        Who is Zholia Alemi?

        When registering in the UK in 1995, Alemi claimed to have a medical degree from the University of Auckland – which she did not have.

        But her false medical qualification was only discovered after she was convicted of fraud and theft in October 2018 after taking advantage of a vulnerable patient.

        Alemi, who was working as a consultant psychiatrist for a dementia service in west Cumbria at the time, redrafted the patient’s will and fraudulently applied for power of attorney.
        I
        When asked by police whether Alemi had assisted with her financial affairs, the victim said: “I think she just helped herself.”

        The judge described her crimes as “wicked”.

        She denied the charges but was found guilty at Carlisle Crown Court and jailed for five years.

        Alemi lost her job after being arrested in 2016 and was suspended by the medical tribunal service in June 2017.

        How did she become an NHS doctor?

        The GMC said Alemi was allowed to join the UK’s medical register under a section of the Medical Act which has not been in force since 2003.

        The act meant medical school graduates from certain Commonwealth countries – like New Zealand – were allowed to join the register on the basis of the qualification they obtained at home.

        They did not have to sit and pass the standard two-part medical test that foreign doctors normally have to pass before they can work in the UK – the Professional and Linguistic Assessment Board exam (PLAB).

        What is the GMC doing now?

        The GMC said its checks are now more “rigorous” and stronger than they were. The council said that now any similar fraudulent attempts to join the medical register would be identified.

        But the records of up to 3,000 doctors – who registered for a licence under the same rules as Alemi – are now being urgently reviewed.

        The GMC said it was not expecting to find anything untoward.

        Charlie Massey, the GMC’s chief executive, called it a “serious” issue and said the police and other agencies including NHS England have been informed.

        “We are confident that, 23 years on, our systems are robust and would identify any fraudulent attempt to join the medical register.”

        The GMC said patients place a great deal of trust in doctors, and “to exploit that trust and the respected name of the profession is abhorrent”.

        A Department of Health and Social Care spokeswoman said: “As the organisation responsible for regulating doctors, we expect the GMC to investigate how this criminal was able to register as a doctor and put measures in place to make sure it can’t happen again.”
        What should concerned patients do?

        The GMC has created a web page with advice for anyone who is concerned that they were treated by Alemi.

        It urges anyone who was treated by her to contact the GP surgery, hospital or clinic where they received treatment.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46258687

        Anwar

        May 9, 2020 at 4:06 pm

      • “When registering in the UK in 1995, Alemi claimed to have a medical degree from the University of Auckland – which she did not have.

        But her false medical qualification was only discovered after she was convicted of fraud and theft in October 2018 after taking advantage of a vulnerable patient.”

        As one of the previous commentators said, she was only discovered when she tried to steal a patient’s £1.3 million inheritance. If she hadn’t done that she would have remained in the job.

        Anwar

        May 9, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    • “Making up false claims on a CV.” – it didn’t do the late Iain Duncan Smith any harm, did it. As and aside, BURN IN HELL YOU BASTARD!! Back on topic. Doug is correct: we are surrounded by lies and bullshit. We are fed lies and bullshit. Look at the media, politicians venture into a Jobcentre or provider office and see the bulshitter ‘coaches’ at work. It is the liars and bullshitters who do well and get on in life. If you want to get on and have that fancy home, two Range Rovers in the drive and luxury holidays you have to learn to be a bullshitter. Those of who have ever worked will have worked this out. It is the George and Georgina – can’t-tell-a-lie – Washington types who get nowhere. The end up on the dole or skivvying in minimum wage jobs. Fuck the Fraud Act. As the late Bill Hicks said: “Life is a ride”. Stop being so fucking anal. As the great philosopher Abba said, take a chance.

      Bethany Bellend

      May 8, 2020 at 1:13 pm

      • @Bethany:

        ”All aspects of honor derive from honesty. A liar cannot truly be honorable, for where is the honor in deception?”― Keith R.A. DeCandido, The Klingon Art of War

        T ' Kar

        May 8, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    • @Nathan

      Its not the words we chose but the context in which we use them.

      Do you have any idea how much it costs per prisoner per day, that the more secure the prison, the more young the prisoner, the more it triples/quads.

      Do you know community service is totally reliant on numbers of offenders, that without makes it just as much a money pit.

      How about the cost of tagging let alone the cost of police, investigation, prosecution, defense and court.

      Do you think law makers and judges use the mantra ” its about principle, to hell with the cost”.

      Now im but one person but ive yet to come across a case where a person was ever arrested let alone convicted for deception at the application and or interview stage.
      Further to this, the matter usually became a discovery after the fact when another criminal act was committed by i quote, people in a position of power and or a duty of trust/care (ie in a position that can affect peoples lives or property (assets)).

      Feel free as like i said im only one person to point to ample cases of evidence to the contrary.

      If we were by majority paragons of virtue, why do we not see a land strewn with priest,monks and nuns and on that note has not these very institutes not suffered fail play among the ranks despite credentials and experience. How about the police, solicitors, prosecutors, judges, politicians.

      ” A lie is only a truth one cannot pull off”

      No ones asking you to pretend to be a surgeon. Im sure not actually once working for tesco wont effect your ability to fill shelves and fold down boxes for refuse.

      So i think at most if your not going to go on and commit a separate crime of theft, negligence or murder while in employ, being refused the job or the sack will be the worst to befall you.
      As for your honor, im sure it will still be more intact than many.

      Doug

      May 9, 2020 at 3:00 pm

  506. @Bethany Bellend- Even a Ferengi has more honour than this human pahtak !

    Kurn

    May 8, 2020 at 1:34 pm

  507. The unemployed are told to be ‘honourbable citizens’ but this is not how the real world works. Too long spent on the dole and out off he real world of work? I now know 3 people hospitals have told they had this virus. Two of them are alive and insisted they were discharged because they didn’t believe it and the hospitals changed the wording to ‘unknown virus’ on their paperwork. The other unfortunately died and his daughter had to get them to remove it because she knew what he really died from. How many people are just accepting what the doctors tell them and why are the NHS telling lies. These doctors should be jailed for this.

    Paula

    May 8, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    • Best advice if you are unfortunate enough to go into hospital is to have someone there to advocate strongly for you. Make sure you are receiving treatment/not being denied treatment, put on the Liverpool Pathway (Deathway). If your friends hadn’t got to hell out the the hospital they would be dead. Had their lungs blown out, overdosed with morphine or being dehydrated to death. Or murdered if you want to be blunt. Cause of death: coronavirus. There must be more murders go in in hospitals than anywhere else. The problem with this ‘coronavirus’ is that the medics(murderers) can isolate their victims. Don’t forget that you can be forcibly detained and treated(murdered) under the ‘coronavirus’ laws. And while you are at it don’t forget to clap and bang your pots and pans for our ‘NHS heroes’ – 8pm on Thursday.

      Viola

      May 8, 2020 at 4:04 pm

  508. Coronavirus: Hundreds of thousands of benefit claimants facing delays as DWP staff diverted due to pandemic

    ‘They seem to have shut everything else down and they aren’t listening to what everybody else needs. They’re forgetting about us,’ says Martin Stone, 62, who’s been waiting seven months to appeal against a cut to his support

    Unwell and vulnerable people who have submitted claims for support or are trying to appeal a decision to cut their entitlement told The Independent they were struggling financially as they wait months for a response from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-disability-benefit-delays-dwp-appeals-a9505951.html

    ken

    May 8, 2020 at 6:48 pm

  509. ‘Universal Credit checks for any live claim to Jobseekers Allowance (Income Based),
    Employment Support Allowance (Income Related), Income Support, Working Tax Credit, Child
    Tax Credit and / or Housing benefit as part of the Universal Credit new claims procedure. This
    check is automated, and prompts the closure of any claim for these benefits.
    Entitlement to any and all of these benefits ends upon the receipt of a Universal Credit claim. ‘

    So can I have the £20 increase now ?……………Oh shit !

    Dave Blunt

    May 9, 2020 at 1:43 pm

  510. ‘The DWP has decided to make major changes to the way that complaints are handled within the Department. The group executive committee was informed that the decision had been made that from 11 May, the current two tier approach to complaints would cease and a one tier system would be implemented.
    Nor has there been any clarity on what the impact of the removal of the second tier of complaints will have either on the claimant or on the next stage of the complaints process; the Independent Case Examiner’s (ICE) office, will be. Currently ICE backlogs can go back almost 18 months, if all cases that are currently dealt with at 2nd tier were to escalate to ICE they could well be overwhelmed very quickly.’ – PCS Union

    So no more local Jobcentre complaints ? Straight to the MP and the ICE then ?

    Garry

    May 9, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    • Or simply do what they did ignore,or there is the razor edge of British justice.Before the courts in their boxer shorts some would say.

      ken

      May 9, 2020 at 2:28 pm

  511. Doug. BoJo’s problem is the right wing of his party and his boss in Washington want the economy to restart , but the evidence of new spikes in other countries makes that impossible.

    Who is going to be Boris’s guinea pig? You?

    Not the Range Rover driving stock-piling middle-class I’m allright Jack and fuck everyone else knobheads for sure. No, let’s send the poor and working-class over the trench wall to take the machine-gun fire.

    You mention construction workers, but site workers are heavily regulated by Health And Safety, and we will not be conned into being the guinea pig for the Tories just because the Tories don’t give a shit as they waive these concerns away. Boris and the Tories can fuck off. We will be staying at home.

    Hammer and Tongs

    May 11, 2020 at 8:28 am

    • I hear you @hammer and Tongs, only yesterday i received positive confirmation that Germany has and is seeing a spike in the infection again. Am im surprised, well not really as i imagine corona will become as a seasonal as so to speak as flu which without a vaccine is not good at all.
      The thing is however, vaccines take an inaudible amount of time to be created and if everyones at home, that means the amount of products are diminishing which also means cost goes up and im sure you get the rest.
      Ive said enough times in the past that the real wealth creators are the many hands and feet who toil for low wages who without would see the likes of sainsburys being forever just the corner shop it started out as.
      So it stands to reason does it not who are really the only people capable of getting this all going again.
      Also dont forget everything works in a chain like a farmer is only as good as his machinery which is only as good as the raw material (you get the picture) and countries rely financially on certain trades being exported.

      As for health and safety ive also said many a time about a certain sentence within the act that uses and justifies the use of “reasonably practicable” which means in definition “time and money Vs risk”.
      So whether businesses support employees or not (i suspect not), the government will hide behind this very phrase i promise you that.

      These are the facts that currently present themselves to us whether we like it or not so its not unreasonable to expect some very hard choices have to be made and risks taken.

      Doug

      May 11, 2020 at 11:05 am

      • Theres traffic pouring down the road outside,anyone can see the outcome when people travel around and the advice from Wales is now don’t drive here,the risk on travel such as buses is not to be ignored instead of the traditional sticking a plaster on to fix it,the advice is now to stick a mask over the problem.The only way from someone looking on keep people well apart.

        The government were dragged out of bed on this and the reckless iresponsibility of goverment attitudes over the years has contributed to the highest death rate in Europe.It’s not affecting me.With local spikes in the future some time off it doesn’t just affect one person the whole business is forced to close “as a number test positive” is always mentioned.This is just dreadful.

        ken

        May 11, 2020 at 3:35 pm

  512. Axed worker faces having to claim Universal Credit after falling victim to coronavirus loophole

    Simon Thomas started a sales job at Crewe-based UK Fuels on March 9. But after two weeks, he was put on furlough leave following the Government’s lockdown announcement on March 23.

    Days later, Simon received a letter from bosses at the company terminating his employment.

    Now the 39-year-old, who lives in Meir, has hit out at the firm, claiming they used Covid-19 as an excuse for dismissal rather than keeping him on furlough leave.

    He said: “I was told I had been made redundant during my probation period while I was on furlough, and now I’ve been left with nowhere to turn.

    “The whole thing has made me really ill. I’ve lost nearly two stone because I’m so stressed.

    “I have applied for about 10 jobs, so I am actively looking for work. But the only jobs out there at the moment are the ones that put you at risk, such as warehouse work

    https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/business/new-starters-left-limbo-after-4087999

    ken

    May 11, 2020 at 2:54 pm

  513. My priorities as Labour’s new Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary

    I called for five further measures to be taken immediately to address the most pressing needs: ending the two-child limit and the benefits cap; disregarding the savings thresholds; uprating legacy benefits JSA and ESA in line with the rise in Universal Credit; and most of all ending the five-week wait.

    However, Labour members should be in no doubt that I am committed to drawing up a full replacement for Universal Credit.

    I reject both the practical impact of Universal Credit, in terms of how it has increased housing arrears, personal debt and child poverty, and the mean, dehumanising ethos that lies behind it. Fundamentally, Universal Credit has failed because it is a system designed by those

    who never expect to have to use it themselves. It relies on a caricature of life on low income and the government has never been willing to listen to the voices of people on it – something I know from my constituency being one of the original pathfinder areas.

    https://labourlist.org/2020/05/my-priorities-as-labours-new-shadow-work-and-pensions-secretary/

    ken

    May 11, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    • @ken – Might have been better if Labour had done something to oppose Universal Credit in the first place.

      Paul G.

      May 11, 2020 at 8:15 pm

  514. There is going to a huge problem with long-term unemployment. Of course Universal Credit will disguise the real extent of this, by making out that a few hours of part-time or zero-work is still ’employment’. Or they will just pack people off to the nearest provider for work preparation activities.

    Jack Reid

    May 11, 2020 at 8:09 pm

  515. Heartwarming response to young mum left with just 71p to feed family as readers slam Universal Credit
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/heartwarming-response-young-mum-left-18231931

    superted

    May 12, 2020 at 2:20 pm

  516. DWP suffers Court of Appeal defeat that ‘could help thousands’ on Universal Credit
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-suffers-court-appeal-defeat-22016290

    superted

    May 13, 2020 at 2:17 pm

  517. Yes, doug, civil servants/government employees are paid by the taxpayer, with those taxpayer earning a descent living there would be no civil servants/government employees, civil servants/politicians tell those in private industry that they must have ‘workplace’ pension but only 3% while civil servants can get, from their taxpayers employers, between 17% and 32%.

    A nurse, own choice of employment can earn £38000 and gets around 20% paid into their pension pot so gets an extra £7600 off the taxpayer, alls not fair in the world but sometimes governments look after their own and it seems some do it quite well at the expense of others, one council boss that had some of those deprived area’s was reported to be paid over £340,000 a year, that’s £6538 roughly a week!!! The only words to describe that are greed and avarice.

    There are millions of people today that brush aside the problems that beset our society, brush it aside with not a care in the world as long as they can pay the mortgage, car and holiday in Spain or Peru, people demonstrating about our climate problems while clutching a £1200 iPhone and dressed in £350 nylon jacket, do they really want things to change? I don’t think so because if we were all paid the money teachers, own choice, pick up with some over £200 a day for actually teaching 21.5hrs week for 185 days a year we would have a fair and equal society wouldn’t we. But those very people strike for more money when they see other people’s earning rising towards their own so called professional wages.
    While the world and mostly it will be the poorer people that suffer the most comes to terms with the harm that covid-19 has done, is doing, those with most of the world’s wealth are out there intent on making themselves even wealthier.

    Doesn’t matter what nationality you are today because, as you say, we have been ‘globalised’ we are all, or should be, in it together, does taxing the worker, the real industry workers, to the hilt really solve the problems or does it provide an nice living for a select proportion of the population? I think it does.

    Carol

    May 13, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    • Can earn and does earn are two different things.
      Nurses earning around £37’000 have already been in employ and experienced for 10 to 20 years. The next band make around £29’000 serving 4 to 9 years and the remainders around £22’000. All before pension contribution, income tax and national insurance. You can also add for those around the low to mid mark, having to pay back student loan plus interest also.
      Further more i think there is a world of difference between a council boss and a nurse in terms of wage structure.

      Finally as for the people have iphones and such, have you heard of credit and debt. These people aren’t pulling £1000 out of their pockets in loose change for an iphone and then deciding on a provider contract. They come as part of a contract phone deal anywhere from 30 to 65 a month for 36 months.
      Im sorry but i know unemployed and low paid people having the same phone contracts and or wearing just such clothes.

      Like it or not, we are all in it together, were in it long before the cameron speech as what would a business be without employees, employee without an employer, government without both or money without all.
      Could the monetary system be better, of course it could be but until people decide to lose sight of what money means to them at any level, change will not come or not in the manner you would hope for.

      Doug

      May 14, 2020 at 8:43 am

  518. Does anyone here know what the deal is with reed.co.uk?

    Quite a large chunk of the jobs being advertised there are being run by the DWP.

    jj joop

    May 13, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    • @jj joop – That’s very odd JJ ! What are the DWP doing advertising Warehouse Jobs ? This has got nothing to do with them. Unless because of the mass unemployment. Maybe they have been ordered to try and do something more directly ? Very fishy. And I would be particularly careful applying to anything they put out.

      Jeff Smith

      May 13, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    • Reed agency runs offline/online background checks on all applicants or so they claim.

      Its a pretty safe bet being in partnership means they will pass on all findings to DWP if infact they do.

      Reed unlike say monster act as an agency so are in the market of vetting prior meaning real names, etc.

      Doug

      May 14, 2020 at 7:36 am

    • @Doug and @Jeff Smith: I fully intend to avoid applying for those jobs on reed with the DWP stamp on them. Like you say they’ll just pass on your details to the DWP. Very fishy!

      jj joop

      May 14, 2020 at 3:23 pm

      • DWP basically are just trying as usual to save themselves time and money as there trying really hard to have this relationship with all jobsites and agencies.
        Yeah it does mean they can look back on it at a later date but unless you refused without good cause an interview or job offer, its not like its useful besides suggesting a person needs a course.

        You cannot be sanctioned (it would be reversed at tribunal) for having a contract dispute be it website, agency or employer.

        Doug

        May 15, 2020 at 10:17 am

  519. https://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/warehouse-assistants/40373842?source=searchResults#/jobs/customer-service-jobs?sortby=DisplayDate

    no idea as dont use that site but see what you mean lol

    Guidant is acting as an Employment Business in relation to this vacancy.

    why would the dwp advertise this job it has nothing to do with them does it. or is it a copy and paste from the find a job web site? dont use that either.

    tbh my job search is same as normal and plenty of jobs to apply for but as ever never get a reply.

    superted

    May 13, 2020 at 8:04 pm

  520. This is the one I saw.

    Be a Work Hero – help keep Britain running

    https://jobhelp.dwp.gov.uk/

    https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/

    mr green

    May 13, 2020 at 9:55 pm

  521. I received this from my Jobcentre today. Anyone here had anything similar?

    Dear xxxxxx

    My name is xxxxxx, I am a work coach at xxxxxx Jobcentre and during this situation I am making contact with all our customers to provide information on support available and also to be on hand if you have any queries. My email address is xxxxxx@gov.uk and you can reply to this email.

    To start I would like to give you an overview of what support we can provide you with right now. I have listed some websites below you might like to visit to find out more about information and advice on obtaining new skills, accessing careers advice and local vacancies that could be available to you. I have also given information on other support agencies that can provide information and advice on other issues you might be experiencing.

    Training and Skills

    Skills Tool Kit – The Skills Toolkit is made up of free online courses, tools and resources to help you improve your digital and numeracy skills. The Department for Education has consulted some of the country’s leading educational experts and employers to make up a collection of high quality resources to suit a range of interests and skill levels.

    https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/find-a-course/the-skills-toolkit

    Free Online Courses offered by local providers (available online)

    Illuminate – Free Mental training modules to celebrate Mental Health Awareness Week – they also offer 1:1 coaching sessions. Visit their website on https://illuminatecharity.org.uk/confidenceforchange_1.php

    Cambridgeshire Skills – From June will be offering on-line courses with personalised tutor support. There will be a wide choice which will include Food Hygiene, Retail, English, Math, Garden Design, ESOL and a general interest section with Art History, Italian and Creative Writing. Visit Cambridgeshire skills at https://www.cambsals.co.uk/

    They also offer an online Employability Bootcamp – details available click here: – Employability Bootcamp

    Steadfast Training – Learn and Prosper Courses in Employability Skills and Warehousing Skills (please contact me if you would like to be referred to these)

    Job Hunting

    Preparing CV – help and tips on creating/ updating your CV available from National Careers Service

    https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/

    Looking for local Job Opportunities

    Despite the disruption caused by the coronavirus outbreak, there are still thousands of critical jobs out there. We’re here to help with information on what types of roles are good to apply for right now.

    Job Help

    Job Help is the government’s new, dedicated website for jobseekers. It has articles, tips and guides to help users identify good sectors to look for jobs in right now, as well as helping them to demonstrate transferable skills, and make successful applications.

    The service is run by the Department for Work and Pensions, but will be regularly updated with the latest advice and links from across the government to serve as a ‘one stop shop’ for job seeking advice. The Service can be accessed at: https://jobhelp.dwp.gov.uk/

    Find a Job

    Find a Job is the government’s, free to use, job matching service. In response to the COVID-19 crisis, the Department for Work and Pensions has worked to boost the number of vacancies on the site and promote key sectors that are recruiting to meet the challenges they are currently facing.

    More than 145,000 private and public sector employers, large and small, have registered and the service is open to employers and recruitment agencies who recruit on their behalf.

    Find a Job can be accessed via https://www.gov.uk/find-a-job

    Cambridge Networks Virtual Jobs Fair taking place on 14th & 15th May

    Register here to take part :- https://www.cambridgenetwork.co.uk/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=27402

    Support Agencies

    Citizens Advice Bureau – Check advice through website http://citizensadviceruralcambs.org.uk/ or call Adviceline on 0344 245 1292

    Mind – Coronavirus and your well-being. Helpful support for coping with self-isolation.

    Mind info line: 0300 123 3393

    http://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

    Ask us about:

    · mental health problems

    · where to get help near you

    · treatment options

    · advocacy services

    Money Advice Service – Support for Redundancy pay, changing careers and Pension options.

    https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en

    Kind regards

    jj joop

    May 14, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    • what about where is my extra £20 a week! ill file that letter in the bin same old crap over and over again lol 😉

      superted

      May 14, 2020 at 4:41 pm

  522. Ipswich Unemployed Action Back.
    by Andrew Coates
    We are, we hope, back..

    Billy Boyne

    May 14, 2020 at 6:22 pm


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