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Coronavirus Ireland: emergency unemployment payment of €203.

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Bold Measures in Ireland. 

Irish Mirror. 

The Government has introduced an unemployment payment of €203 per week for anyone whose employer can’t pay them during the coronavirus pandemic.

Any employees who have lost their jobs or any self-employed people will be eligible to get the payment for up to six weeks.

The Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection said: “COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment has been introduced for anyone whose employer is unable to continue to pay them.

“The payment is available to all employees and the self-employed who have lost employment due to the pandemic.

“You will get a payment of €203 per work for up to six weeks (as applicable).”

I am pretty aware that the Irish welfare system is far from perfect, and the health service is part privatised and requires, expensive,  individual insurance.

But this is a good move.

Here:

This is what our boss is tweeting about:

The DWP could at least start by ending the sanctions regime.

Ireland: 

COVID-19 (coronavirus) and social welfare payments

COVID-19, also known as coronavirus, is a new illness that can affect your lungs and airways. Ireland is trying to reduce transmission of the virus by implementing a range of measures.

The following measures are in effect until Sunday 29 March 2020:

  • Schools, colleges and childcare facilities are closed from the evening of 12 March
  • Indoor mass gatherings of 100 people or more and outdoor mass gatherings of more than 500 people should be cancelled
  • All State-run cultural institutions are closed
  • All pubs have been advised to close from midnight on 15 March
  • People have also been asked not to have house parties.

Back in the UK:

Written by Andrew Coates

March 16, 2020 at 11:34 am

1,272 Responses

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  1. The UK Gov. should close Jobcentres and libraries to the public and suspend all Conditionality relating to out-of-work Benefits (i.e. signing appointments and jobsearch requirements) and commence automatic payments for the foreseeable future. But no one is listening, not even my own (Labour!) MP.

    trev

    March 16, 2020 at 11:58 am

    • @trev- I totally agree with you there Trev. But you can bet the Tories won’t be handing out any free money to the unemployed, whatever happens.

      Jeff Smith

      March 16, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    • If you close libraries many people will not be able to apply for UC and job search, amongst many, many, other things.

      Andrew Coates

      March 16, 2020 at 1:17 pm

      • If they just suspend conditionality requirements such as providing a signature for JSA, and jobsearch evidence, then that alone would mean far fewer people having to use public libraries or having to attend the Jobcentre. The roll-out of UC could also be suspended for the time being. Of course new claims would have to go ahead so yes libraries would still be needed for that.

        trev

        March 16, 2020 at 1:38 pm

      • Coranavirus can live on a keyboard for 72 hours though.

        Sami

        March 17, 2020 at 12:02 am

      • Hopefully not for much longer.

        Israeli researchers make ‘significant breakthrough’ on coronavirus vaccine

        The Israel Institute for Biological Research has completed the development phase of a Covid-19 antibody

        https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israeli-researchers-make-significant-breakthrough-on-coronavirus-vaccine-1.499473

        ken

        May 5, 2020 at 11:56 pm

  2. We have only got brown toilet paper left take it or leave it. Uurrrgggg but brown toilet paper. The snobs & the pickiness is getting to be like Peckham Spring Water. We do not want brown toilet paper. Down the food bank they go oh good more toilet paper we don’t care what colour it is. But the Tory Voters are going but Urrrgggg But brown toilet paper. Stop moaning & use the brown toilet paper. UUuuurrrggg brown toilet paper.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 16, 2020 at 12:38 pm

  3. You notice how people on benefits have been completely ignored by the government during this crisis ?

    Alan Turner

    March 16, 2020 at 12:51 pm

  4. As for the Irish payment of 203 Euros – good idea. But you have zero chance of Corona Coffey going through with this.

    Burt

    March 16, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    • You can say that again amigo !

      H.Upmann

      March 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    • Face-to-face assessments for sickness and disability welfare payments will be suspended for three months to protect vulnerable claimants from coronavirus.

      The Department of Work and Pensions said the temporary move will come into effect from Tuesday as ministers ramp up efforts to stymie the spread of Covid-19.

      It is hoped that binning the face-to-face meetings will protect claimants from potentially catching the virus.

      So far, 35 people have died after testing positive for the virus in the UK, with 1,391 cases recorded.

      Andrew Coates

      March 16, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    • I drove my mate down to the jobcentre and it was still open, business as usual. She said that the security goons were coughing and sputtering all over the place, as well as a few of the roaches. She also said that the roach wouldn’t fill in the date and time of the next appointment in her booklet. The roach never touched the booklet. There was a pen on the desk for her to do it herself. If this coronavirus is for real we are in really big trouble. How stupid can a government department be?

      Lambo

      March 16, 2020 at 3:57 pm

      • This was this morning.

        Lambo

        March 16, 2020 at 3:58 pm

  5. We are witnessing the fall of Capitalism & I am make jokes about the fall of Capitalism. It don’t work, even the tax payer can’t bail out the banks & the Stock Exchange like last time. Serco is now asking for a Government bail out.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 16, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    • Capitalism has been replaced by corporatism, when the banks were bailed out last time the money was supposed to go back into the economy, to help small businesses etc, but the greedy bankers stole it all. Benefit and pension payments should be a lot higher than they are and that’s because successive governments going back to thatcher have stolen the ni contributions, that’s why they keep raising the retirement age, pretending they’re running out of money as though it’s the peoples fault for living to long!

      Tigerlily

      March 16, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    • Stock markets have always bounced back… when you least expect it. Like when you have remortgaged your home to put a bet on the market going down further (shorting it). The smart money makes money on the way down, and money on the way back up. The move upwards will be just as sharp and unexpected as the move downwards. If we could predict these movements we would all be rich.

      Stockbroker

      March 16, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    • Big money is also made in highly volatile markets as we are seeing now. The VIX Volatility Index is currently at 78 – anything over 50 and it’s hold tight for the ride.

      Stockbroker

      March 16, 2020 at 4:07 pm

      • VIX, is that not something you scrub the floor with, love?

        Old Edna

        March 16, 2020 at 4:12 pm

      • It’s also good for a blocked nose.

        Colin from Immingham

        March 16, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    • And whether this coronavirus is real or not one thing is for certain: it is making and will make many people even richer than they already are.

      Stockbroker

      March 16, 2020 at 4:10 pm

  6. 35 people have died because of the virus over 1200,000 have died at the DWP care of duty welfare reform. DWP Deaths don’t count !!! Hide the report !!!.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 16, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    • 120,000*

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      March 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    • 15 people have died from ‘coronavirus’. 15 MILLION disabled people have been MURDERED by the DWP.

      Razor Stepping

      March 16, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  7. I would love this uc + an extra 203 euros for 6 weeks, that will cover the money i lost being moved from jsa to uc, I got an extra 35 pounds per weeks because I got DLA/PIP

    my_final_username

    March 16, 2020 at 2:46 pm

  8. 203 euros = £183.80

    Black Jack Mulligan

    March 16, 2020 at 2:54 pm

  9. My assumption is that unless the DWP say different and/or the Jobcentre closes we just carry on as (ab)normal. If businesses start closing or running with skeleton staff they won’t probably be advertising new vacancies, in which case what are people going to do for jobsearch and such like? (If the Jobcentre that we go to is open I doubt that the “conditionality” it imposes on us will be relaxed.) Surely under such exceptional circumstances like a pandemic claimant commitments will have to be waived? I doubt even the DWP would want stories appearing in the newspapers about people being sanctioned for “self-isolating” or not fulfilling everything they agreed to, under normal conditions, on their CC. Isn’t it about time that the DWP told us in plain English what the score is? Or will, as usual, the people most affected going to be the last ones to know roughly where they stand?

    Ro

    March 16, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    • Always the standard applying for jobs via employment agencies

      DWP certain won’t want these reports in newspaper

      my_final_username

      March 16, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    • Here their saying in the Peterborough area.

      Scores of job vacancies revealed in Peterborough to help during coronavirus crisis
      Vacancies in vital jobs in Peterborough and the surrounding area are available for people seeking work during the coronavirus pandemic.

      Many of these require skills when applying and are not walk into as the article suggests,as for Find A Job I’ve struggled to find anything on there,it might help those recently laid off.

      https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/business/scores-job-vacancies-revealed-peterborough-help-during-coronavirus-crisis-2552467

      ken

      April 28, 2020 at 10:21 pm

  10. Why is Tesco’s share price tanking at the same time as their shelves are being stripped bare?

    Warren Buffet

    March 16, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    • Investors are panicking over low sales volume. Tesco made a bad move at the beginning of the year. They bought a load of toilet tissue. They haven’t been able to shift it since. With low toilet roll sales volumes investors have plenty to worry about.

      Hedge Fund

      March 16, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    • Tesco doesn’t warehouse stock but uses “just in time” for ordering and delivery. This means that they can only replenish stock if they get large daily deliveries pretty much direct to their supermarkets or hubs that supply their supermarkets. Most of food comes from EU countries and with Italy, France and Spain etc., shutting down Tesco can get enough deliveries to keep their business profitable, quite possibly for many months. Who would want to keep their money in any company quite that vulnerable? Not me. Not a lot of people.

      Maximillian

      March 16, 2020 at 3:49 pm

  11. This panic buying is like a wildfire which burns hot for a short while and then goes out. Once people have filled their fridges, freezers and cupboards with food and drink there won’t be room for much more and the shops will be able to gradually fill their shelves again. I can understand the demand for non-perishable food and drink and even hand-sanitiser but toilet rolls? Out of all the things that people could hoard why the heck hoard toilet rolls? The British are bat-shit crazy if you ask me.

    Sluggo

    March 16, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    • Toilet tissue is worse than useless if you you have the flu. It is awful do blow your nose on, It has a kind of sharpness to idle, and it releases fibre that irritate your nose. You will lose your appetite and be stuck in bed for days so won’t even be on the crapper. And you still won’t have much of an appetite after you recover. All you need is a load of tissues, flu medicine and fluids. This panic buying of toilet tissue is NUTS!!

      Bog Roll

      March 16, 2020 at 4:27 pm

      • **It has a kind of sharpness to it.

        Bog Roll

        March 16, 2020 at 4:28 pm

  12. well if the dwp was going to do it they would put every one on extended sick leave for 3 months and do phone interviews for 3 months and no sick note required.

    you would still have to job search tho but this could also be turned off but would need a new cc being signed for that time.

    superted

    March 16, 2020 at 3:55 pm

    • My gp gave me a fit note from December 2019 to June 2020, because of my anxiety etc, that I can only work in certain types of jobs. Even my work coach at the job centre says I got limited capablity of my disability of the type of work I can do.

      I still do job search weekly. incase I get a diffeent advisor who wants to see I am still job searching because I claim uc

      I am still waiting and appealing with my uc50, and now with the threat of the increase of the virus, the tribual will probably not happen for another couple of months now.

      my_final_username

      March 16, 2020 at 5:44 pm

      • i lost my tribunal as said i was fit for work cos could lift a empty card board box with my left arm and could balance the box against my body.

        yeah not going to happen is it pmsl 😉

        superted

        March 16, 2020 at 5:57 pm

  13. If you get coronavirus unless you already have issues with your health or unlucky as shit you are almost sure to recover. So why worry, be happy.

    Kool Kat

    March 16, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    • @trev- Might be wise to go in anyway Trev. If you are not infected. Better safe than sorry with the DWP.

      Pete

      March 16, 2020 at 5:54 pm

      • Yes Pete, I haven’t been instructed otherwise so I will attend my signing appointment as normal. Might wrap a scarf around my mush, just to be on the safe side.

        trev

        March 16, 2020 at 6:06 pm

  14. Before you go crazy ask yourself how many people in your neighbourhood has this virus. I’ll bet it’s “0”…

    Violet

    March 16, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • Back in February 2018, something similar happened, a Chinaman farted and the stock market ‘plunged’ 10% in one day. Anyway, it seemed to peter out quickly. Apparently the Chinaman quickly recovered and so did the stock market.

      Rose

      March 16, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    • There have only been 5 cases of coronavirus identified so far in the whole of Cornwall and no new ones during the last week.

      Ro

      March 16, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    • Panicking, placing yourself under needless stress and anxiety is not good for your health. Chill out, maaaaaaaaaaaan 😀

      Dr in the House

      March 16, 2020 at 6:56 pm

  15. Latest news: Everybody with symptoms of coronavirus – coughing, a runny nose, a sore throat, tempreature or a fever – should self-isolate for FOURTEEN DAYS! Including benefit claimants by order of the Prime Minister.

    The Forth Horseman

    March 16, 2020 at 6:03 pm

  16. FFS Boris – SHUT DOWN THE JOBCENTRES!!!

    Suspend Benefits conditionality and jobsearch requirements.

    Pay Benefits automatically without interviews or signing.

    trev

    March 16, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    • If the Jobcentres are not immediately shut down, then the government will face an all-out claimants strike.

      Red Len

      March 16, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      • I shall put that to my Members and pass a Motion….(blows whistle)…”EVERYBODY OUT!!!”

        trev

        March 16, 2020 at 8:07 pm

      • ALL OUT! DOWN SIGNING-ON PENS!

        Red Robbo

        March 16, 2020 at 8:13 pm

  17. Can I have yet another Government bail-out please? 🙂

    Sir Richard Branson

    March 16, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    • Can we have some more tax ?

      Tax Collector

      March 16, 2020 at 7:55 pm

      • Oh, island in the sun
        Willed to me by my father’s hand
        All my days I will sing in praise
        Of your forest, waters, your shining sand

        Jamaica Inn

        March 16, 2020 at 7:59 pm

  18. Must admit I’ve not heard anything from the local Jobcentre about JSA people not having to go in.
    You could land yourself a sanction here easy enough.

    Dave B.

    March 16, 2020 at 7:52 pm

  19. “Everyone is helping themselves and leaving nothing for the old ones.”

    Overheard In B&M

    March 16, 2020 at 8:06 pm

  20. “Excuse me, you will have to put that back. One case only.” *to a customer with a trolley overflowing with UHT milk

    Overheard In Lidl

    March 16, 2020 at 8:07 pm

  21. “The PM has called a Cobra meeting. There is nothing in the backroom that the customers want.”

    Overheard In Sainsburys

    March 16, 2020 at 8:11 pm

  22. Hello trev 😀 *waves*

    Colin from Immingham

    March 16, 2020 at 8:18 pm

  23. trex, remember me? I posted as ‘Miss Prunella Holt-Carthorpe, Headmistress, Loxley Academy For Young Ladies’ but you traced my IP and busted my ass 😀 ha ha 😀

    Colin from Immingham

    March 16, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    • I think it might have been a different trev, I have no such technical abilities, only psychic abilities.

      trev

      March 16, 2020 at 8:48 pm

  24. @superted My assessment was quite interesting last year, my Dad went with me, she asked me could I fold a piece of paper in half. Still not been to my tribual, hopefully after the long report back of the reasons why I disgree with the reasons

    I can do some work, it will cost alot more for companies to pay out if I injury myself, if I have stated about my disablities, co-ordinations problems being put in a job field I am not suited at, because the dwp wants someone off claiming uc.

    We see what happens

    my_final_username

    March 16, 2020 at 8:48 pm

  25. Breaking news…

    From RT:

    Stay home!’ France mobilizes 100,000 police to enforce coronavirus lockdown

    More to follow…

    Corana Virus Breaking News

    March 16, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    • It doesn’t look good.

      British ‘superspreader’ is linked to 11 Wuhan coronavirus cases, and it shows just how hard it can be to track new virus

      https://www.businessinsider.com/british-man-deemed-superspreader-for-infecting-people-with-coronavirus-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

      That was back in early Feburary.

      ken

      March 23, 2020 at 11:18 pm

      • Zombie hoards are fleeing London, ken. They might even be in your community. Zombies from all over the UK have been fleeing to the Highlands of Scotchland and Snowdonia in Wales – and been told they are not welcome and to go back home. Unlike every other European country the UK borders are still wide open for any zombies to enter. The whole situation in the UK has been so badly mismanaged that our only real hope is that this virus is a hoax. But if you see the body bags being taken out in your local community you will know that it is for real.

        28 Days Later

        March 23, 2020 at 11:27 pm

  26. From RT

    The Dow Jones had plummeted nearly 3,000 points – 2,997.1, to be exact – at the close of trading on Monday, finishing down 12.93 percent as markets continued to slide despite tripping a circuit-breaker minutes after opening.

    The S&P 500 sank a whopping 12 percent, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 13 percent. The Dow has dropped over 30 percent since opening at a high on February 12. This latest Dow drop is the worst since the infamous Black Monday crash in 1987.

    Corana Virus Breaking News

    March 16, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    • The way the stock market is tanking must mean we are all going to DIE!! Our pension funds are evaporating. But we won’t need them anyway since we will all be DEAD!! A market bottom has to be found soon because the way this is going there will be no equity left by the end of the week.

      Dow Jones

      March 16, 2020 at 11:39 pm

  27. work coaches are scared to death of claimants at the moment. my appointment today lasted 1 second wc didn’t even speak. just through a pen across the table for me to sign on and gave me my next appointment.

    no mention of what is going on.

    the whole world is going into lockdown, but not for jsa claiments we still have to sign on its disgusting the prime minister ignoring us.

    if I get a runny nose there is no way I am missing an appointment, not after I signed on 6 weeks ago and my wc was coughing and blowing her nose everywhere. A couple of days later I got a cold.

    big bird

    March 16, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    • It’s very shabby treatment, we JSA claimants are being told nothing, all the official DWP statements of advice so far are aimed at those on Universal Credit or about the self-employed. I sign on tomorrow morning and I won’t know if the appointment has been cancelled or not until I get there.

      trev

      March 16, 2020 at 11:29 pm

      • Let us know, trev, will you?

        Seth

        March 16, 2020 at 11:46 pm

      • It’s half eight in the morning, I just rang the jobcentre, was on hold for about 15 mins., got told JSA signing appointments are going ahead and that the Jobcentres are all open as normal. Boris needs to sort this out ffs.

        trev

        March 17, 2020 at 8:41 am

      • There is no real difference between these face-to-face disability assessments, and ordinary Jobseekers Allowance people going in to sign-on. The health assessments obviously take longer. But signing-on still has the same face-to-face contact with a Work Coach The principle is exactly the same. And so is the risk of infection. It doesn’t take more than a few seconds of contact with the virus to become infected. There is no need to be in contact with someone for 30 minutes or more. A 10 minute signing-on appointment is quite enough, if you are that unlucky. So why are Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants being put at risk in this manner by the DWP ? As a punishment for not ‘playing the game’ and transferring to Universal Credit ?

        Jeff Smith

        March 16, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    • That’s how it spreads. It is usually takes one or two days before it hits you. And you think back and realise it was that fucking roach sneezing on me.

      Rhinovirus

      March 16, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    • Yeah, you may as well take as many as the fuckers down with you. The signing pens should be disinfected and sterilised between each use.

      Colt

      March 16, 2020 at 11:51 pm

      • Seriously, don’t touch the pens.My Jobcentre has put all the Jobseeker’s Allowance people back on the old paper forms. So you sign on with a stubby black biro that about a hundred people have used before you. Take your own biro in, and when you get offered the black stubby, just smile and say you have your own pen.

        John H.

        March 17, 2020 at 12:00 am

      • So should the Work Coaches.

        Dave B.

        March 17, 2020 at 12:01 am

      • Within a fortnight ~150 jobseekers (~ roach caseload) will have touched that pen. Scary!

        The Plague

        March 17, 2020 at 6:17 am

      • You can touch anything, just don’t then touch your eyes, mouth, nose or face afterwards. And wash your hands thoroughly, as soon as you can, so you don’t spread any infection.

        Aggie

        March 17, 2020 at 6:25 am

      • You need a bottle of the proper hand sanitiser. The stuff that you can use without water. Unfortunately, it seems to be like gold dust at the moment.

        Maggie

        March 17, 2020 at 9:07 am

      • If you haven’t got hand sanitiser lave your hands with surgical spirit or mentholated spirit.

        Heathcliff

        March 17, 2020 at 10:25 am

  28. Corona Virus Local Community Update:

    Reported Infections: 0, Deaths: 0

    Boris

    March 17, 2020 at 6:12 am

  29. Buck up, trev. It’s not like “going over the top” of a trench during the first world war. You people really are chicken aren’t you? With a 99% to 96% of surviving the virus if you’re under 70 and have no significant underlying health problems, even if you get the virus you are pretty much certain to survive infection. Jesus. No wonder you guys aren’t successful and have to rely on handouts paid for by others in order to survive and need other braver people to fight your battles for you.

    “What did you do today?”

    “Signed on at the Jobcentre.”

    “Really! On your own!? Wow! You deserve a medal!”

    How completely and utterly craven, hopeless and pathetic.

    Kegsie

    March 17, 2020 at 6:35 am

    • Indeed, Kegsie, our forebears endured the most unimaginable horrors during the World Wars? And what for? To save the skins of trev and the rest of this generation of pathetic woke losers with their ‘space spaces’, ‘micro-aggressions’, ‘-phobias’, ‘hate speech’, ‘hurt feelings’, ‘politically correct’ crap and other assorted horseshit. Like they have fought in the trenches, ran for their lives through the jungles of Burma with the Japs on their arse, been shot down in a Lancaster bomber over Germany, by oh, trev, signed-on at the Jobcentre single-handedly – give this wimp the Victoria Cross for Gallantry. Go and visit a Commonwealth War Graves cemetery and weep for the young men who were robbed of their lives for a bunch of sorry losers.

      Gallipoli

      March 17, 2020 at 7:25 am

    • Hey man, that’s a micro-aggression. You have been reported to the Police. *retreats to ‘safe space’*

      Woke Loser

      March 17, 2020 at 7:35 am

  30. “When will the sun-dried tomato and olive Italian focaccia bread be back in stock?”

    Overheard in Waitrose

    March 17, 2020 at 7:46 am

  31. UK coronavirus crisis ‘to last until spring 2021 and could see 7.9 million hospitalised’.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

    Violet

    March 17, 2020 at 8:34 am

    • South Korea has a population of 52 million living on a landmass of 100,000 sq km. England (not including Scotland, Wales, and Ireland who will develop their own strategies) has a population of 55 million living on a landmass of 130,000 sq km. Its capital city has 9.6 million people, London has 9 million. Both countries are highly industrialised. SK has a border on a large continent, Britain has the advantage of being an island. Both have significant shorelines and trading ports, both enjoy temperate climates (although SK is drier) not dissimilar to each other.

      South Korea opened up drive through CoVid testing centres. 20,000 people a day are tested. You get a text if the test is negative or a call if positive. This is the highest testing rate per capita anywhere in the world. From just under a hundred centres and laboratories, these results come through within 24 hours. The whole network was up and running within 17 days of the first cases being reported. In fact, it was patient 31, who triggered SK’s response.

      The fatality rate for coronavirus in South Korea is 0.7%. Globally the World Health Organization has reported at 3.4%.

      The big difference between the UK’s model of controlling the infection so it can handle the critical cases (mitigation model) and South Korea’s (containment model) is simple. Five times more people will die in the UK per million infected than they will in SK.

      One is an experiment, the other is based on experience, sound scientific expertise and most importantly preparedness.

      Seoul

      March 17, 2020 at 8:39 am

      • What you are forgetting though is that South Korea is an advanced, First World country. The UK on the other hand is a retarded Turd World country. No comparison!

        Soo Ping Loo

        March 17, 2020 at 8:54 am

    • How is that going to work. It has been reported that there is only 58 (Intensive Care Unit) beds up in Scotchland. So maybe around 600 down here in England. If you have ever been in an ICU unit you will have noticed that there is usually about six beds and a couple of ventilators. The NHS is never going to cope. 8 million people on a couple of hundred ventilators!

      Natalie Reid (staff nurse)

      March 17, 2020 at 8:47 am

    • Boris Johnson makes ‘last gasp’ joke about lack of ventilators amid pandemic

      Boris Johnson left manufacturers unimpressed last night after making light of the lack of available ventilator equipment in the UK as the coronavirus spreads.

      Sally

      March 17, 2020 at 10:01 am

    • It turns out that 7.9 million is about 12% of the population. I’m pretty sure the NHS can’t deal with that many cases when it is already stressed to breaking point. So doctors will have to triage the sick and decide who is worth treating and who to let die. Not a very appealing thought.

      Statto

      March 17, 2020 at 10:22 am

    • The whole fucking world is screaming at the UK that we are doing it wrong yet we still have that fuckwit BoJo telling us to keep a stiff upper lip, and now we have that poison dwarf, Turdgeon oop north telling us that there are ‘no coronavirus’ secrets. You can always trust a First Minister of Scotchland, uch aye, Alex how is the court case going 😉 Why aren’t the two biggest transmission vectors fucking schools and the jobcentres closed?

      Batabal

      March 17, 2020 at 11:39 am

      • Salmond is on the stand: “it wisnae me. a didnae dae it”

        Court Reporter

        March 17, 2020 at 11:47 am

  32. Reblogged this on Tory Britain!.

    A6er

    March 17, 2020 at 8:36 am

  33. It’s an absolute scandal that unemployed people have simply been ignored by this Tory government. What measures are the DWP taking to safeguard Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants ?

    Harold Chalmers

    March 17, 2020 at 11:08 am

    • They’re taking no measures whatsoever. Probably do them a big favour if we snuff it.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 12:00 pm

      • Watch coachy when you pick up the contaminated pen. They reel back in their seat as if it is a stick of radioactive plutonium and have that “hope they get it” look of evil on their face. Any measures they take are to protect themselves. They want to take out as many of the unemployed as they can.

        Hazmat Suit

        March 17, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      • I used my own pen to write down my next appointment, but had to use the plastic pen to sign on the electronic pad, though I applied some hand sanitizer just prior to being called to the desk.

        trev

        March 17, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    • They don’t care and its getting worse.Its like their not bothered.

      HS2 contractor branded ‘disgusting’ as video appears to show worker coughing over protester in Aylesbury Vale

      A video, which can be viewed at the top of this article, emerged on social media yesterday appearing to show a HS2 worker deliberately coughing over a protester.

      The MP for Buckingham, Greg Smith, also gave us the following statement: “I am appalled that HS2 Ltd and their contractors continue with enabling works, clearly flouting government advice on social distancing.

      https://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/people/hs2-contractor-branded-disgusting-video-appears-show-worker-coughing-over-protester-aylesbury-vale-2516414

      Perhaps a Universal Credit claim would cure that.

      ken

      March 26, 2020 at 3:20 am

  34. after you sign do a fake hacking cough.

    they dont’t care if jsa claiments get crono or pension credit pensioners.

    all the disabled people can afford to bulk buy as they get so much money weekly.

    big bird

    March 17, 2020 at 11:25 am

  35. I’ve just returned from the jobcentre where it’s business as usual, a totally normal signing interview lasting 10 mins. , only difference is the dole clerks have a bottle of hand sanitizer on their desks, but no one wearing face masks not even the security guards.

    trev

    March 17, 2020 at 11:58 am

    • Glad to hear that you survived your ordeal. Well done. Bravo.

      Mister Joyboy

      March 17, 2020 at 5:01 pm

  36. bet they didn’t let you use their hand sanitizer.

    big bird

    March 17, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    • Luckily I took my own.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 1:33 pm

  37. Even before the cornovirus, some of the job centres I been in (one to see the disability advisor) and one for normal signing when on jsa, were pretty unclean.

    my_final_username

    March 17, 2020 at 2:53 pm

  38. Just think if we got into lockdown and the police have the power to arrest people for not self quarantine themselves if needed, sorry boss I need to sign I have got a jsa

    Just scrap having to sign on at the jsa/uc appointments and any other appointment at the job centre as some job centres could be short of staff and g4s

    my_final_username

    March 17, 2020 at 3:38 pm

  39. Sooner or later, they will have to start closing Jobcentres. Like it or not.

    Tony Barrett

    March 17, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    • Not until they’ve wiped out the remaining JSA claimants / long-term unemployed.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 5:24 pm

      • The unemployed need to start taking a strict line with this. Can’t sign, won’t sign.

        Leo

        March 17, 2020 at 7:18 pm

      • @But Trev, that would be monstrous !

        Miss Marple

        March 17, 2020 at 7:20 pm

  40. There is not a single word about old-style JSA claimants in the DWP Coronavirus advice ! It’s just as if the remaining JSA claimants don’t officially exist.

    Petra

    March 17, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    • Petra, I know! I sought clarification from my MP but he wasn’t interested and fobbed me off.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    • Because the DWP expect them to be all dead soon.

      The Grim Reaper

      March 17, 2020 at 8:44 pm

  41. Breaking…

    Coronavirus: Glasgow Life shuts libraries, gyms and pools

    ALL museums, public libraries, sports centres and community facilities owned by Glasgow Life have closed from today.

    It means Scotland’s top free visitor attraction, Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum, will be shut and gyms and libraries all over the city closed down during the coronavirus outbreak.

    It is expected the closures will last several weeks until the end of next month, covering the school Easter Holidays in just over two weeks.

    Glasgow Life has taken the decision following the Government advice on reducing social contact.

    Corona Virus News Update Service

    March 17, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    • What if you use the library for jobsearch like most jobseekers do? Is this coming to Ipswich libraries?

      Taffy

      March 17, 2020 at 8:24 pm

      • Glasgow Life doesn’t run Ipswich libraries you daft h’apper.

        East Anglia

        March 17, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    • And fucking jobcentres are still fucking open!! Are the DWP fucking NUTS!! Well, are you?””

      DWP is fucking NUTS!!

      March 17, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    • By keeping jobcentres open the DWP is effectively ignoring HM Government’s instruction to limit unnecessary social contact. Signing-on appointments ARE unnecessary social contact. Immediately make payments automatically and scrap job-searching requirements. Using communal computers IS an unnecessary risk. Anyway, we can expect other local authorities to follow Glasgow’s lead soon and close down all their libraries.

      Harlem

      March 17, 2020 at 8:40 pm

      • And if we filmed it we just get our camera/phone smashed and the cops called by the g4s/job centre staff.

        my_final_username

        March 17, 2020 at 9:18 pm

      • Locally all the seats have been removed from the GP surgery,essential appointments only and their canceling by text others.Its probably the same everywhere now.

        Shops are closing too,

        Stores closed at Bicester Village and ‘staff resign’

        New Balance has closed and staff say Lululemon, Ugg and Timberland have as well.

        https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18308236.stores-closed-bicester-village/

        http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/

        Not good for a Universal Credit economy.

        ken

        March 17, 2020 at 9:30 pm

      • Shops in the UK are starting to refuse cash now, Iceland soon to start. Lots of staff wearing gloves and using hand sanitiser after handling cash. If you live on Gibraltar almost no shops are taking cash.

        Gillian

        March 17, 2020 at 9:56 pm

  42. This ‘corona virus’ has always felt like some mind-fuck lab rat social experiment. Someone is sat laughing at us scurrying around filling our brollies.

    Lab Rat

    March 17, 2020 at 10:01 pm

  43. This ‘corona virus’ has always felt like some mind-fuck lab rat social experiment. Someone is sat laughing at us scurrying around filling our trollies.

    Lab Rat

    March 17, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    • Or just Armageddon nearing its conclusion.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    • Uncle George Soros will be making a mint out of the coronacrap. Making money on the way down and money on the way back up. Cui bono, who benefits?. It you want to find out who started it you just have to look for who benefits, eh George 😉

      Cui Bono

      March 17, 2020 at 10:41 pm

  44. Coronavirus: First Bus announce Saturday timetable from next week

    The announcement comes after the government warned against non-essential travel yesterday

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/coronavirus-first-bus-timetable-saturday-3958007

    ken

    March 17, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    • I thought the Saturday bus times were pretty much the same as in the week, but I don’t really know as I very rarely use buses as I can’t afford to.But if they go on to Sunday timetable we know we’re screwed.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 10:30 pm

      • Everyday Is Like Sunday
        from album: Viva Hate (1988)

        Trudging slowly over wet sand
        Back to the bench where your clothes were stolen
        This is the coastal town
        That they forgot to close down
        Armageddon – come Armageddon!
        Come, Armageddon! Come!

        Everyday is like Sunday
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Hide on the promenade
        Etch a postcard:
        “how I dearly wish I was not here”
        In the seaside town
        … That they forgot to bomb
        Come, come, come – nuclear bomb

        Everyday is like Sunday
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Trudging back over pebbles and sand
        And a strange dust lands on your hands
        (and on your face…)
        (on your face…)
        (on your face…)
        (on your face…)

        Everyday is like Sunday
        “win yourself a cheap tray”
        Share some greased tea with me
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Morrissey

        March 17, 2020 at 10:51 pm

  45. Are they gonna tell jas claimants that uk lockdown is a change in circumstance so claim uc.

    Total madness.

    piggy

    March 17, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    • This corona which nobody has even seen yet is being used to usher in a load of totalitarian changes, cashless society, everyone migrated to universal credit? You have to be suspicious.

      Liil

      March 17, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    • @ piggy

      I’ve been wondering if it would trigger a transfer to universal Credit if a JSA claimant phoned in to miss a signing appointment due to illness or self isolation but no information is available, the DWP havent said anything about it and even my MP doesn’t want to know.

      trev

      March 17, 2020 at 11:00 pm

      • on jsa you can self certificate for the first 7 days that you are sick, you must tell them this asap as after 7 days you will have to attend to sign on ect.

        if you are ill more than 7 days a sick note is required and no benefits will be paid until this has been processed.

        you can only have 1 sickness period per 12 months and a maximum of 3 months on extended sick leave on jsa but you will need a sick note to cover the 3 months or you will have to send in new ones when they run out so must be sent recorded delivery or they go in the bin 😉

        superted

        March 17, 2020 at 11:14 pm

      • @ superted

        So presumably to self-certify 7 days sickness you would have to visit the jobcentre and fill in a form? Why aren’t they telling people this as part of the current situation? There has been no specific information given for JSA claimants.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 8:34 am

      • you dont need to fill in any forms for the first 7 days you just have to tell your work coach after 7 days you will need to hand in a sick note or post one for the time you are sick.

        you will still have to job search but will sign on via the phone every 2 weeks.

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 11:48 am

  46. Effects of Infection
    Like any other viruses, t-Viruses make contact with a cell’s membrane and insert their genetic coding into the cell. The cell absorbs the viral genome into its own, which hijacks the cell’s intended functions, using them to produce virions similar to the original. The new virions are then released from the host cell and infect the neighboring cells, which starts the process all over again.[11]

    Different t-Viruses can react in different ways to humans. Before 1978, the t-Virus simply killed people, but the independent accomplishments of Marcus’ and Spencer’s labs led to zombification as the typical outcome of infection. Higher brain functions among the infected almost cease entirely and zombies can only perform minor tasks such as turning doorknobs. It should be noted that while zombification is known to result in brain damage and necrosis, the hosts are not, in fact, dead, as the t-Virus is incapable of reanimating dead tissue. Even with a shut down of the respiratory and cardiovascular systems, or apparent brain death, infected people do not die. Since some of the traits of zombies are the decomposed skin and the lack of pulse, they are often mistaken for reanimated corpses.

    In viral strains capable of the “V-ACT” process, unconscious zombies are known to mutate in an hour or so. Crimson Heads develop razor-sharp claws, sharp canine teeth and their hearts pump blood rapidly across the body, resulting in their crimson hue. Other strains instead create “Lickers,” which are humans whose skin has entirely rotted away to show the muscles. Their brains are exposed, and they have powerful, long tongues that can be used as whips to attack people. An oddity of V-ACT is a creature known as “Suspended.” Only one specimen of this creature is known to have existed. What it actually was is unknown, though it is possible to have been the result of a zombie ceasing its mutation mid-transformation.

    There are rare cases where a human responds differently to t-Virus infection and transforms into a dominant mutant. These mutations are the result of unique genetic factors that only one in ten million people displays. People with this genetic quality were highly prized by Umbrella, as they could be turned into bio-weapons known as Tyrants.

    i think i got tyrants if i ring 111 will they help or carpet bomb me with nuclear cruse missiles 😉

    superted

    March 17, 2020 at 10:42 pm

  47. This is extra stress on jsa claimants.

    taz

    March 17, 2020 at 10:43 pm

  48. Does anyone know for how long this mad panic-buying is supposed to be going on for? Will it dovetail into our mad Christmas rush? It feels like corona developed in supermarket lab to boost their profits. It sure feels like it? It is costing a fortune. We feel like we will be appearing on a Channel 5 hoarding programme soon. Look they have 1000 loo rolls 🙂

    Sally Shopper

    March 17, 2020 at 11:09 pm

  49. Gatherings of more than 50 people is banned under Health & Safety laws. So that means the House Of Lords needs to shut down, including the Houses Of Parliament. Bars & Pubs are already employing the gathering ban so why not a politician gathering ban or have they all got the virus then !!! That means the politicians all need to self isolate in Parliament. It must be a big worry for the House Lords with old & under lying health conditions. So really why do we always break or own rules !!! Perhaps it is a worry for the Tory MP’s servants or perhaps it is just a worry for the servant !!!!! It seems there are no more servants Tories so start to worry who’s cleaning your bog. Facebook Slander to Fuckbook Social Media’s defeat.

    With all the supermarket fuss they should be putting up Red Cross Tents because of failure.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 18, 2020 at 12:46 am

  50. Has anyone on this site got corona or know anyone with it.

    Government don’t want you going near anyone incase you talk about it, they even want you isolated from each other in your homes, so lock yourself in your room.

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 7:33 am

    • The answer to both questions is no doubt ‘no’. Something stinks alright! Best to ignore the media and politicians and just go by what you can see with your own eyes. Of course if you lock yourself away your perceptions will solely controlled by the media. Always keep an ear to the ground.

      Coronahoax

      March 18, 2020 at 8:02 am

  51. I hope that people with better things to do, e.g., work for a living, are much less paranoid and shit scared than most of the mentalists and loonies commenting on this site. Grow up and get yourselves fucking backbones as soon as possible for fuck’s sake you poor pusillanimous pathetic sods.

    Man from the Street

    March 18, 2020 at 7:33 am

    • You’ve got to make allowances, mate. The people on here have got a lot of time on their hands and nothing better to do than brood about themselves all day. You can’t blame them for being self-centred navel gazers and a bit nutty and holding the rest of the world responsible for their situation after they have shirked the world and responsibility to others themselves. They are after all, when all is said and done, the runts of society.

      Peacock

      March 18, 2020 at 7:46 am

      • @ Peacock

        I may be “a bit nutty” but when the time comes for you to be in need of receiving a food parcel from the foodbank it might be this “runt of society” who helps to facilitate that. Your biased comment and presumptive remarks are both derogatory and discriminatory.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 8:45 am

      • @trev: Good for you mate. At least you are down the foodbank helping people. Not making stupid comments like @peacock.

        Pete

        March 18, 2020 at 11:42 am

    • You shouldn’t be hanging around on the street mate, you might catch your death.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 8:50 am

  52. The All Seeing Eye

    March 18, 2020 at 8:27 am

  53. Your comment is awaiting moderation. What the fuck!

    The All Seeing Eye

    March 18, 2020 at 8:30 am

  54. Coates, if the mainstream media wasn’t giving us the hard sell on this cold virus and bombarding the world with nonsense, no one be be any the wiser and no one would need to be helped but that’s not what the global elite want is it? Is there any mainstream blogger at all out there that will call this out for what it is?

    Danni K

    March 18, 2020 at 11:30 am

  55. No-one has ever asked me ”Dave, do you really want to work ?.”

    Dave Blunt

    March 18, 2020 at 11:36 am

  56. @trev – You’ve picked up a good point there Trev. Why is there all this determined silence about the JSA claimants ? There are still far more claimants on JSA than Universal Credit. So why is the DWP pretending they don’t even exist ?

    Paul G.

    March 18, 2020 at 11:39 am

    • Yeah it’s weird innit? I can only conclude that the Tories are hoping to use this virus situation to either transfer all the survivng JSA claimants and long-term unemployed on to Universal Credit, or to kill us off. The mainstream media seem to be complicit too, not been a word mentioned about coronavirus and Jobcentres, on the BBC or anywhere else.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 12:00 pm

      • People are using this situation in all sorts of ways but this ‘crisis’ has not been engineered specifically to move the remaining JSA claimants onto uc. That is just daft! It may be a consequence of it but nothing more. What you are seeing in action at the moment is the ‘Shock Doctrine’ that Naomi Klein talked about in her book of the same name. It has been deployed in many other regions/countries of the world before but you couldn’t have cared less because ‘it did not effect you’. Many regions/counties have been brought down. Unknown evil entities are attempting to trash the global economy and using ‘coronavirus’ as a cover. There is a war going on at the moment. There will be winners – and there will be losers. When it is all over we will find out who they are.

        Shock Doctrine

        March 18, 2020 at 12:21 pm

      • @ Shock Doctrine

        I’m not saying “this ‘crisis’ has not been engineered specifically to move the remaining JSA claimants onto uc”, just that the Tory government are possibly taking advantage of the situation to do that. I don’t believe that the crisis has been engineered. The virus arose from the atrocious medieval conditions in Chinese food markets as a result of lack of food hygiene standards and animal welfare.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    • Totally agree.

      Andrew Coates

      March 18, 2020 at 12:08 pm

      • You’ll be on UC very soon Coates, oh & thank you very much for taking my comment down.

        Violet

        March 18, 2020 at 12:20 pm

      • Those of us who still have to attend Jobcentres and still have to use libraries for jobsearch, particularly JSA claimants, are being totally ignored by the Government and the media, and in my case by my own MP.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 12:22 pm

  57. HOT OFF THE PRESS!

    My Jobcentre just phoned to say tomorrow’s signing has been cancelled. As to when I will be going in again is under review. Payments will go through as normal.

    jj joop

    March 18, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    • @jj joop. Yeah but what about your jobsearch JJ ? Do you still have do this ? I can see a problem here, if people just turn up in a couple of month’s time with no jobsearch done.

      Andy

      March 18, 2020 at 12:23 pm

      • If I were you I would carry on doing job search as usual, don’t give the jc a chance to sanction you.

        Violet

        March 18, 2020 at 12:34 pm

      • No mention of my job search. But I still intend to do my job search and keep my paper journal up to date. It only takes up about an hour and a half of my time every day, anyway. And at the end of the day, I will be keeping to the terms and conditions of my CC. In fact, I would recommend everyone do just that.

        jj joop

        March 18, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    • Every one is being told not to attend joke centre as we are now on corona lockdown.

      Violet

      March 18, 2020 at 12:23 pm

      • jj i would not trust anything a work coach says over the phone and would want it in writing first.

        if the jcp is open where you are i would still turn up to sign on.

        you must still job search it is the only part of the cc they can sanction you for buy law.

        unless it is posted on the news or a letter comes thru the door i will be attending.

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 2:05 pm

      • @superted, But what if they phone you up and tell you not to come in ? It might be someone impersonating your Work Coach, but is that likely ? Why put yourself at risk by going in when you don’t have to.

        John

        March 18, 2020 at 2:41 pm

      • they dont have my phone number and i am not at risk if i catch the flu i am not going to die.

        1400 ppl die per day in the uk anyway its not like the bubonic plague.

        if i do die someone will have to put my body in the green wheelie bin on Monday night ready for the incinerator next day 😉

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 2:48 pm

      • Back in the real world it just appears that it is the usual winter bugs doing the rounds. Is there any evidence at all of the ‘coronavirus’ in the real world? Are we being played for fools? Is this scam? A financial scam?

        J-Jam

        March 18, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    • Finally!

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 12:24 pm

      • @trev – Trev you’ve done it ! The Jobcentres have closed down. Just had my own Work Coach on the phone telling me not to come in. Still the question about jobsearch though, as @andy has mentioned above. Probably best to keep a few applications going to cover yourself.

        Garry

        March 18, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      • @ Garry

        Well I don’t think “I’ve” done it, but I have kept mentioning this on blogs, and contacted my MP, and have contacted the BBC a couple of times about it, and a local newspaper reporter, and the CAB….

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 12:42 pm

      • It’s trev wot done it!

        The Scum

        March 18, 2020 at 12:47 pm

      • Still no mention of Jobcentre closures on BBC News, and nothing specific about JSA or Jobcentres from the DWP.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      • Give the man a medal.

        Field Marshal Bumfree-Jones

        March 18, 2020 at 12:49 pm

      • It is such a shame that the Work coaches still have to work even thou there is no people to oppress. The Work coaches are now getting it hard so they think.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        March 18, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    • Corona lockdown now there will be millions losing their jobs & will have to claim universal credit just what the tories want everyone relying on the state.

      Violet

      March 18, 2020 at 12:30 pm

  58. There is no coronavirus “pandemic”. What is really happening is the global economy is being shut down so the new world order can be ushered in, the world governments & the main stream media are behind it all doing the dirty work for the global elite. What you are witnessing is just the beginning it will get a lot worse in the coming weeks.

    Sakaw

    March 18, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    • Sakaw, have you been listening to David Wilcock and Alex Jones?

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 12:45 pm

  59. There is no coronavi******rus “pand****************emic”. What is really happening is the global economy is being shut down so the n****ew w*****orld o***********rder can be ushered in, the world governments & the main stream media are behind it all doing the dirty work for the global el***********ite. What you are witnessing is just the beginning it will get a lot worse in the coming weeks.

    Sakaw

    March 18, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    • Absolutely, mandatory vaccines will be coming, more Internet censorship(to silence anyone talking about what’s really going on), notice how all the protests around the world have suddenly ended, yellow vests, Hong Kong etc, the phoney crow virus is the reason, also the globo’s want to disarm the Americans, what better way than a pandemic hoax to enforce draconian measures to confiscate firearms, their ultimate aim is to abolish the Constitution especially the second amendment… the right to bear arms!

      Tigerlily

      March 18, 2020 at 1:03 pm

      • If you care to just watch a gentle Ted Talk video with Bill Gates from 2015 talking about the imminent threat not of being blasted by nuclear bombs but by releasing pathogens to kill off the ‘useless eaters’ (old unproductive folk), you will hopefully understand that he, as a member of George Soros’s One Foundation, totally transfixed on vaccinating the entire planet’s population, was actually spilling the beans on what was being planned. These vaccinations will have something or other in them that will almost certainly be detrimental to human health (at some point in life.)
        We’re almost at 8 billion people you see Doug and the Zionist multi billionaires like Sheldon Aldelson, Richard Pearle and the awfully nice chap (forgot the name) looking after the space programme to eventually get the human brain connected with Artificial Intelligence, know full well that their wealth cannot be sustained anymore and the population culled by bombing countries into oblivion. The same model which worked well in the 60’s is now considered old fashioned.
        On the ground everything is being controlled by Israeli cyber security companies and everything you say or do will be closely monitored. Now I’m pretty sure you know who has the power to bombard all mainstream TV, radio and newspaper outlets with the same rhetoric for weeks.

        Anjam

        March 18, 2020 at 1:11 pm

      • @ Anjam

        “I’m pretty sure you know who has the power to bombard all mainstream TV, radio and newspaper outlets with the same rhetoric for weeks.”

        No, who?

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:33 pm

      • Multiculturalism and especially importing an alien culture of people for votes while housing, feeding and caring for them was done to destabilise the nation as was offering them the nation’s poorest children to be passed around as sex slaves for 30 years. The entire political and judiciary systems of the UK were compliant in this unprecedented act of war in modern times. The Brexit referendum and vote was fuelled entirely by mass uncontrolled immigration. (Loathing of the EU was secondary.)

        Aiij

        March 18, 2020 at 1:12 pm

      • Yeah, need a ‘vaccination certificate’ to claim benefits, get/keep a job…

        Al

        March 18, 2020 at 1:16 pm

      • David Icke is urging us not to take the planned coming mandatory vaccines. He says that there will be something in it that shortens out lifespans.

        Travis Bickle (conspiracy theorist)

        March 18, 2020 at 1:20 pm

      • But David Icke says that death is nothing to be afraid of so why is he worried about shortening life spans?

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:27 pm

      • @ Tigerlily

        But people in LA are queuing up to buy more guns, it showed it on the news the other day. What America really needs is the Right to Arm Bears, give all those hunters a taste of their own medicine.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      • How is it any different from preachers, trev? We tell you how great it is up there but cling like grim death to life down here?

        Pope Benedict III

        March 18, 2020 at 1:32 pm

      • @ Pope Benedict

        That’s very true your Eminence. Why fear death if it’s God’s will? I guess there’s a point where Faith meets Apathy, or something to do with the relationship between Destiny and Free Will. An Age-old Religious/Philosophical debate.

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 1:42 pm

      • You will take my guns from my cold dead hands.

        Charlton Heston

        March 18, 2020 at 1:45 pm

  60. Is the coronavirus caused by 5G?

    Violet

    March 18, 2020 at 1:24 pm

  61. My jobcentre is still opened, Im in london and sign on next week

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    • They can’t shut mosques that would be like kicking sand in Allah’s face (Peace be upon his name). Besides we have Ramadan coming up, the most important festival in the Is,,,,,,,,,,,,,la….mic calendar (Apr 24 – May 24)

      Peace

      Ali

      March 18, 2020 at 1:38 pm

  62. They want to shut churches now during easter.

    Why don’t they shut mosques aswell

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    • @ big bird

      The local Buddhist centre near me has just announced temporary closure too.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 1:36 pm

  63. Breaking…………..

    Schools in Scotchland are closing from Friday until further notice.

    Corona News Update Subscription Service

    March 18, 2020 at 1:40 pm

  64. @trev- I think everyone on this blog owes Trev a vote of thanks for bringing up the whole issue of Jobcentre closures . Sometimes a single man can stand up to the power of the mass media, unafraid and ready to speak out. Trev, we owe you one.

    Nathan

    March 18, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    • @nathan, Cometh the hour, Cometh the man.

      Andrew

      March 18, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    • I don’t think this issue is over with yet, I suspect they are addressing it regionally probably depending on the local infection rate, rather than at a National level which would be too much to expect of an incompetent like Boris.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 4:21 pm

    • Who’s Trev?

      Freeman Dyson

      March 18, 2020 at 5:47 pm

      • What man knoweth Kadath?

        Lovecraft

        March 18, 2020 at 5:55 pm

  65. Breaking news….

    Boris Johnson is “considering” introducing an emergency Universal Basic Income after the SNP called for one, insisting it would help ordinary people survive the coronavirus crisis.

    Corona Virus News Update Subscription Service

    March 18, 2020 at 2:34 pm

  66. But will it be a cashless UBI I wonder?

    Violet

    March 18, 2020 at 2:51 pm

  67. Coronavirus, My hairy Arse!

    Jim Royle

    March 18, 2020 at 3:16 pm

  68. Stock markets continue to be routed. Dow Jones now below 20,000.

    George Soros Investments

    March 18, 2020 at 3:21 pm

  69. Coronavirus IS a bioweapon created in a lab say scientists.

    David Wilcock

    March 18, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    • Which Scientists? Which lab?

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 3:38 pm

  70. Even now, there are some people who see this all as a money-making opportunity.

    ‘Two top Tory donors made millions “shorting” the stock market during last week’s coronavirus collapse – so will they be putting their hands in their pockets to help those in need?’ – Private Eye

    For those unfamiliar with the stock market, short-selling works as follows:

    ‘It involves the sale of stock that the seller does not own, or shares that the seller has taken on loan from a broker. Short sellers take on these transactions because they believe a stock’s price is headed downward, and that if they sell the stock today, they’ll be able to buy it back at a lower price at some point in the future. If they accomplish this, they’ll make a profit consisting of the difference between their sell and buy prices’.

    Citizen Kane

    March 18, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    • Hardly surprising. Whether it’s a war or a natural disaster, a financial crisis or a health crisis, there’s always someone somewhere making money from it, that’s the way Capitalism works. People even make money telling their stories about serial killers. Or in some cases convicted criminals make money from selling their book. The whole world is corrupt.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    • There was a bloody interesting film called “The Great Short” with Christian Bale all about this fiddle that caused the stock market to crash. It was shown on the BBC I think. Keep a look out for repeats.

      A Man Called Sue

      March 18, 2020 at 5:46 pm

      • Movie Buff

        March 19, 2020 at 3:43 pm

      • Good film although a bit technical… the only thing I remember vividly about it was the scene where Margot Robbie, naked in a bubble bath, explained something about economics and banking and told the audience to fuck off. Blimey. A sight that could make a blood run hot in a corpse and a dead man stand to attention.

        Randolph Mann

        March 19, 2020 at 5:13 pm

  71. Coronavirus: Schools to close until further notice from Friday

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51952314

    cant really keep the jcp open now can they lol every one has lost the plot

    superted

    March 18, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    • Many people will have to stay at home now to look after their kids. Those who are unemployed and have kids will have to take them with them to the Jobcentres and the libraries when signing on and doing jobsearch.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    • Not in England yet though.

      Clockwatcher

      March 18, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    • Yes I work in a school. No one knows yet what arrangements re pay ect are. US cleaners will be in to start with doing a deep clean, providing no confirmed cases in skl. If confirmed case then specialist cleaners will b called in then we’ll have to do it all again. It’s been mad with teachers dropping like flies. If a kid as much as coughs it’s straight to the medical room. If they’re sent home any siblings will go too. Schools will stay open for kids of keyword erstwhile also vulnerable kids with SEN or social workers. Don’t know yet what arrangements for Free school meals are yet. Will keep updated

      katrehman

      March 18, 2020 at 9:07 pm

  72. It will be interesting how people forced to isolate themselves who have to apply for Universal Credit, will react to the new benefit system and whether loads of negative experiences happening all at the same time will put pressure on the government to review and change UC.

    Wickham's Fancy

    March 18, 2020 at 5:41 pm

  73. funny all the terrorist and perverts have disappeared.

    it’s no stop fear mongering.

    the invisible ‘enemy’

    big bird

    March 18, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    • God, a terrorist attack happening right now doesn’t bear thinking about! If it did it would probably bring troops on the streets.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 5:51 pm

  74. I’ve got a Jobcentre appointment next Monday. No cancellation here as far as I know, yet. To be honest I couldn’t care less. My statistical chances of dying are so insignificant I have no fear being youngish and in good health. Bring it on!

    Raine

    March 18, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    • I have no fear either, I just hate going to the jobcentre, and I’m 60 and a heavy smoker prone to bronchitis, type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    • Truth be known, I am a bit worried tbh Raine, it would be a shame to snuff it now as I’d like to live long enough to get my Pension, and I don’t fancy dying gasping for breath whilst drowning in my own lungs.

      trev

      March 18, 2020 at 6:55 pm

  75. I can’t bear to listen to Boris stammering and waffling…still..erm..still…no..no..no…erm..official statement on on on thee erm…the closure of of Jobcentres.

    trev

    March 18, 2020 at 6:02 pm

  76. What’s all the racist shite about Muslims and all doing on a thread about coronavirus? And the dumb fuck conspiracy bollocks about 5G and bio-weapons and whatnot? As soon as there’s a national emergency all the fucking mutants come out from under the sink in the outhouse. Bloody hell. Have a word with yourselves for fuck’s sake you mongs.

    Mother Therese

    March 18, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    • Baloney! Utter baloney! “As detailed by James Lyons-Weiler, PhD, founder of the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge and author of 57 peer-reviewed publications, an analysis of the gene sequence for the coronavirus finds a peculiar sequence called “pShuttle-SN.” This sequence is is the remnant of a genetic engineering sequence that’s used to insert genes into viruses and bacteria. It provides irrefutable “open source” proof that the coronavirus now circulating in the wild was engineered in a laboratory. Every lab that has the gene sequence can see this for themselves.”

      A Solorzano PhD (virologist)

      March 18, 2020 at 6:34 pm

      • With an average survival rate of 98% if coronavirus is a bio-weapon it’s a piss poor one. James Lyons-Weiler sounds like a callous-handed wanker of the first order to me. (What’s his PhD in? Playing with himself?) Nobody respectable or eminent is talking grassy knoll shite like that. No one. Holy shit. The paranoid and credulous knuckle-dragging contingent are out in force tonight. Poor simple sods. Not a full Moon until the 8th of next month and they’re already baying at the sky. Whatever have things come to? I blame social media for the low standard of British nutters in the modern world.

        Mother Superior

        March 18, 2020 at 8:14 pm

      • The X-Files are on the Paramount Channel tonight.

        Spooky Mulder

        March 18, 2020 at 8:17 pm

      • Tonight? I just checked, it’s not on til half three in the bloody morning!

        trev

        March 18, 2020 at 8:24 pm

      • https://streamdreams.org/movies/

        just use a add blocker b4 you click 😉

        superted

        March 18, 2020 at 8:43 pm

  77. Full list of all county council-owned libraries set to close due to coronavirus
    https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/full-list-county-council-owned-3962694

    well there goes your job search and online journal if you rely on this service to get online.

    superted

    March 18, 2020 at 6:16 pm

  78. Full list of all county council-owned libraries set to close due to coronavirus
    https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/full-list-county-council-owned-3962694

    well there goes your job search and online journal if you rely on this service to get online. i bet the public transport will be next.

    superted

    March 18, 2020 at 6:17 pm

  79. We know bird flu was created in the University of Wisconsin lab by Yoshihiro Kawaoka – he was also working with Ebola in an unsecured lab reported in July 2014 in the Independent newspaper

    “Exclusive: Controversial US scientist creates deadly new flu strain for pandemic research”

    “Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison has genetically manipulated the 2009 strain of pandemic flu in order for it to “escape” the control of the immune system’s neutralising antibodies, effectively making the human population defenceless against its reemergence.”

    “The study is not published, however some scientists who are aware of it are horrified that Dr Kawaoka was allowed to deliberately remove the only defence against a strain of flu virus that has already demonstrated its ability to create a deadly pandemic that killed as many as 500,000 people in the first year of its emergence.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/exclusive-controversial-us-scientist-creates-deadly-new-flu-strain-for-pandemic-research-9577088.html

    Jeff

    March 18, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    • Bird flu was created in birds… the clue is in its name.

      Liam B.

      March 18, 2020 at 8:20 pm

  80. The UK is now the only country in Europe that hasn’t closed its Jobcentres down. We are going to have to close them soon enough. Do it now and save lives.

    Ann

    March 18, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    • I’m in Alberta, Canada and I can’t believe that the schools in England are still open. We closed all schools (including universities and colleges ) last week. The best way to stop this virus is to keep human contact to a minimum.

      Couperwhite

      March 18, 2020 at 6:54 pm

      • How are Harry and Meghan doing?

        Elizabeth R.

        March 19, 2020 at 3:50 pm

  81. My new work coach is not due to phone me up now to 12 May (as my old work coach moving onto another department) I can’t see this happening as there could be a lot of people having to go on univeral credit.

    I am doing some voluntary work still and we are playing it now week to week depending on what the government does, I did find the volutary work myself and since it is only a small team if a few are off sick or have to go into self quarantine, I won’t be doing my voluntary there. even if I got paid (I will get help from them to help me fill out my changes with them on the univeral credit page, the company has dealt with some people claims, and know how shocking the universal credit system is) as one person who can deal with this started help start my uc50 appeal with my Dad

    my_final_username

    March 18, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    • why do they even ring you up for? what is the point? when i was on phone interviews all they asked was i looking for work and any change in circumstances, ur nope, end of call.

      jcp staff do get moved about alot even doing shifts in other jcp offices in the local area.

      i have lost count of how many so called work coaches i have had over the years seems after 6-8 months if they dont get anywhere i was just sent to another one to have a go going round the office like a pin ball in a machine.

      superted

      March 18, 2020 at 9:47 pm

      • I still have a fit note up to june, because of my anxiety, but since i still get uc I still got to some job search. It saves me having to go into the job centre (the aka the arena)

        my_final_username

        March 19, 2020 at 8:40 am

  82. superted

    March 18, 2020 at 10:02 pm

  83. Government agrees measures with energy industry to support vulnerable people through COVID-19

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-agrees-measures-with-energy-industry-to-support-vulnerable-people-through-covid-19

    This is an issue that was raised by campaigner and activist Charlotte Hughes who runs the Poor Side of Life blog and protests outside Ashton jobcentre every week.

    https://thepoorsideof.life/2020/03/19/emergency-measures-for-prepaid-energy-meters-now-released/

    trev

    March 19, 2020 at 7:55 am

  84. London is going in lockdown, my jc is still opened, I’m trying not to worry and will phone the jc on the day of my appointment.

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 2:17 pm

  85. superted

    March 19, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    • Only having one ball probably pissed him of as well.

      Colonel Bogey

      March 19, 2020 at 6:42 pm

  86. You can rely on the great wurlitzer to keep fanning the flames of hysteria, the shitstream media and this shit government are proven liars so why does Joe public still believe their f#cking bullshit, nobody questions anything or even suspects anything, talk about dumbed down, not to worry… the clown in no.10 will save everyone from convenient 19!

    Tigerlily

    March 19, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    • They should call it CONTROLLERvirus – 19 much more appropriate!

      Violet

      March 19, 2020 at 3:27 pm

  87. Just seen Ian Drunken Shite has come out against bringing in a Universal basic income while coronavirus rages as it will be a huge disinclination to work. What f…… work with pubs ect and even schools closed?? His solutions of course is his amazing UC….

    katrehman

    March 19, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    • The man’s a maniac, he’s bleedin obsessed.

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 3:11 pm

    • Ian Drunken Shite a very good name for the bald twat, and he would be in favour of universal crap instead of a UBI that would probably alleviate some of the stress we are going through.

      Violet

      March 19, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    • Universal Credit is Iain Duncan Smith’s legacy project, the thing he wanted to be remembered for. Which I actually agree with. He SHOULD be remembered for Universal Credit and held accountable for the misery, pain and death that it has caused. Universal Credit has proven to be far more harmful and deadly than Corvid-19 was, is or ever will be. The evil old bastard ought to be remembered forever for the catastrophic damage he did during his disastrous, dishonest and failed career as a politician.

      T'Pau

      March 19, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    • @katrehman – Now we see the full reality of Universal Credit, and the true motives behind it. With his usual blend of neo-liberalism and religious ideology, Duncan Smith wanted to make people work. People , in particular the unskilled working-class, who he thought were basically idle, and wouldn’t bother to work unless they were forced to do so. Universal Credit was never about saving money, there are no savings as has been pointed out. The cost has been horrendous. The true reason for Universal Credit has been one man’s idea, to prevent the working-class falling into the sin of sloth and idleness.

      Proverbs 26:14 ‘As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.’

      Jeff Smith

      March 19, 2020 at 6:49 pm

  88. I got an email reply to some job I’d applied for saying that the employer has suspended their recruitment process due to the current health emergency. How the chuff are we expected to continue doing jobsearch under the circumstances? It’s bloody ridiculous. If anyone from the Government or DWP is reading this FFS SHUTDOWN THE JOBCENTRES. SUSPEND BENEFITS CONDITIONALITY AND JOBSEARCH REQUIREMENTS ASAP. SUSPEND SANCTIONS FORTHWITH. SUSPEND JSA SIGNING APPOINTMENTS. COMMENCE AUTOMATIC PAYMENTS NOW!

    trev

    March 19, 2020 at 3:00 pm

  89. The plot thickens. My phone just beeped and the SMS message told me to log in to my UC account and read a message. Logged on and, lo and behold, my appointment with my Work Coach next week has been cancelled and my “To-do” list in my UC account is blank. No mention of an appointment with another Work Coach, nor information as per up and coming UC payments, nor anything relating to a future appointment being rebooked. How very queer. I’m due a UC payment next Wednesday and assume that this will go through automatically until I am summoned to the Jobcentre at some point in the future. Weird. I wonder if this means that all Jobcentres are going to close temporarily or if someone in my local Jobcentre has gone down with Corvid-19 and the whole staff having to self-isolate. Who knows? We are living in strange days indeed.

    Who would have thunk it?

    Ro

    March 19, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    • Just got another message:

      “Until further notice there will be no work search appointments. Your Universal Credit will not be affected and you will receive this as normal. You just need to record anything you do to look for work.

      I have no time limit as to when your next appointment will be (possibly at least a couple of months), but once we book an appointment for you it will pop up in your journal.”

      So there you go.

      Ro

      March 19, 2020 at 4:03 pm

      • You never know, this virus crisis might be the undoing of Universal Credit, and it could be replaced with Universal Basic Income, unless it’s just a temporary glich under the circumstances. In the meantime don’t forget to sign the petition:

        https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/coronavirus-a-temporary-universal-basic-income-for-everyone?bucket=email-blast-19_3_2020_ubi_kick&share=473c7539-685f-41d4-b925-94617e663164&utm_campaign=19_3_2020_ubi_kick

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 4:08 pm

      • Petition signed although the Tories are the last people in the world I would have thought to implement a universal basic income, or even conditional basic income*, because they believe to their core and kernel of their being that working people have to be brow-beaten, goaded and compelled to work for a living whereas the rich need to be incentivised, rewarded and encouraged to do their bit for the common good.

        * Check out a “A World Without Work” by Daniel Susskind. Some very interesting ideas here about automation, education, universal basic income, conditional basic income and the future. You can request it from your local library, if you still have one, or download a freebie hooky copy it as an epub, if you’ve got a device (Kindle) or app to read it, from:

        https://ebookhunter.ch/

        Ro

        March 19, 2020 at 4:27 pm

  90. London supermarkets are not being stripped bare. There’s no stock on the shelves to strip.

    I went in Morrison s as soon as it opened, shelves were already empty

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  91. Controllervirus emergency laws in full, shutdowns and £1,000 fines for refusing to be tested.

    What next mandatory vaccinations?

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-emergency-laws-full-shutdowns-21720768

    Violet

    March 19, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    • No vaccine, compulsory or not, for at least twelve to eighteen months the experts say.

      Cracked Actor

      March 19, 2020 at 4:34 pm

      • I suspect this has been planned for years and they probably already have one, will most certainly contain an RFID chip, nano particulates & some nasty diseases.

        Cloverleaf

        March 19, 2020 at 5:35 pm

      • That sounds like an X-Files plot, lol, have you been listening to Coast to Coast AM or Alex Jones?

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    • I will take the test if I have to

      my_final_username

      March 19, 2020 at 4:54 pm

      • Trev no way I can’t stand Alex Jones he’s a berk.

        Cloverleaf

        March 19, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      • I can’t stand him either. What about George Noory? Those Coast to Coast shows can be entertaining to listen to but I don’t think you should take them too seriously.

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 6:53 pm

  92. jj joop

    March 19, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    • Every cloud has a silver lining…

      Bawlbag

      March 19, 2020 at 4:46 pm

      • Never heard of George Noory trev I’ll have to check him out… He’s probably another berk.

        Cloverleaf

        March 19, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    • And my phone call from the job centre is still there in May., I think this will change,

      I supposed you just to how to keep trying you best and do what you can with job searching,

      my_final_username

      March 19, 2020 at 5:02 pm

    • @ jj joop

      “People receiving benefits do not have to attend jobcentre appointments for three months, starting from Thu 19 Mar 2020”

      “People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended”

      It doesn’t say which Benefits, are we to assume it also applies to JSA or is it just Universal Credit? Surely they need to inform every claimant individually in writing.

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 5:12 pm

  93. Freed form the jobcentre, but under house arrest.

    Now work coach has got three months to think of something horrid for us jobseekers for when we come back.

    Keep applying for jobs

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 5:03 pm

  94. Due to restrictions in place as a result of CoVid-19, we are currently unable to accept orders. For any enquiries please email us on sales@atsbullion.com

    https://www.atsbullion.com/live-charts/

    never seen that b4 you cant buy gold!

    superted

    March 19, 2020 at 5:06 pm

  95. Imagine going back to jobcentre with no job search.

    big bird

    March 19, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    • “Where’s your jobsearch evidence Mr. Bird?”

      “My dog ate it”

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 5:17 pm

      • Strange that the DWP have not put some of warning in about people having to keep up their jobsearch requirements ? For three months ? This is the same DWP who not so long ago, were saying that if people didn’t keep jobsearching over Christmas, they would be sanctioned.

        Jeff Smith

        March 19, 2020 at 6:37 pm

      • I was just thinking the exact same thing Jeff. I suppose it might be advisable to keep doing a bit of jobsearch and save the email replies just in case someone asks to see your jobsearch evidence at some point in the future, which is possible but probably unlikely. I’ll just continue to click-apply on the odd job as I do now, it’s a pointless charade anyway, I only do it because I have to in order to get my JSA and avoid sanctions, but I’m never likely to even get an interview for any of the jobs I apply for, must have applied for thousands of them over the years. I hope this virus crisis results in the eventual introduction of a Unconditional Basic Income.

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 6:46 pm

      • Obviously you will end up in if you fail to stick to what you have previously agreed in your claimant commitment. As everybody is supposed to keep up a vigorous jobsearch on a weekly basis everybody would be well advised to keep a record of this activity, in your usual manner, to submit if/when asked at some point in the future. If you’re not logging and diarising this in your Journal don’t start doing it now but continue to write it down, or whatever, and retain it for future reference. A lot of people won’t do this and will end up in deep shit in twelve or more weeks once the Jobcentres open again by slacking on their CC requirements during the coronavirus epidemic sweeping the country. Watch yourselves!

        Elric of Melnibone

        March 19, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      • they have waited 3 months or more to drop sanction doubts on me in the past why i keep everything.

        i would try to apply for 3 jobs per week just to cover ur ass.

        superted

        March 19, 2020 at 6:53 pm

      • A universal basic income was implausible and unlikely before coronavirus looks set to cause a crash worse than the banking disaster in 2008. A UK in the process of leaving the EU, still recovering ten years on from the worst economic shock in a century, and with borrowing about to become positively stratospheric thanks to the Covid-19 epidemic sweeping the nation will not be anywhere near prosperous enough to implement even a modest universal basic income for decades if ever. The money to do it simply won’t be there, in fact the opposite will more likely be forced upon us, i.e., cuts in social security in a desperate attempt to make savings to keep a country in decline going a little bit longer before sinking beneath the waves rather than ruling them as it once did.

        Jeremiah

        March 19, 2020 at 7:53 pm

      • @ Jeremiah

        You may well be right about spending cuts and more austerity to come, but making people poorer doesn’t aid economic recovery. My hope is that if anything positive is to come out of this calamity it will be a widespread and long overdue redistribution of wealth. No more Billionaires hoarding all the wealth for themselves, equal prosperity for all under a Leftwing Socialist government with Nationalized essential services and major industries.

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 8:26 pm

      • The things you say are never going to happen, trev, principally because a majority of the electorate, about two-thirds of whom own or are mortgaging their own homes, don’t want them to. Jerusalem will never be built in England’s grey and unpleasant land. No harm in dreaming though. I often fantasise about having Gal Gadot as a girlfriend, which although unlikely to the point of impossibility, is still more likely to happen than a British government introducing a universal basic income sufficient to guarantee an income large enough for all citizens in the UK to live decently. As far as I know no country on earth has done this successfully yet least of all any of the former communist states or any with left-wing regimes like Cuba or Venezuela for example.

        Seventh Son

        March 20, 2020 at 6:50 am

  96. I’m not sure here but where are the jobs you need to apply for? What employer is going to advertise in the middle of a pandemic? It’s like I said over Ian Duncan Spite saying universal basic income will disincentives work…WHAT work?? In my shared house one guy is a fast food worker he’s already been put off. However looks like as a school we are key workers ourselves as the other key workers need to send their kids to skl so they can work. Plus kids in care still have places as do kids with social workers and safeguarding issues plus SEN kids. Quite honestly that’s most of our school. I use to do a lunch contract too at the school I gave up 3 years ago. I was basically shafted plus I had dangerously high BP which I got back to normal with no drugs. I’m now BACKAT lunchtime as there’s so few lunch staff. I told them I won’t work in the dining hall or stack tables and benches because of my disc problem. Oh fine Kat no worries thank you for coming back…
    Just wondering what will happen next!

    katrehman

    March 19, 2020 at 7:15 pm

  97. It’s amazing the libraries are still open. Staff at my local library have put up a barrier around the enquiry desk. Which keeps people back about two feet. Otherwise it seems to be business as usual.

    Helen

    March 19, 2020 at 8:04 pm

  98. The supermarket situation is in crisis,all tin foods are stripped from shelves much of this comes from the EU as well as the toilet roll theres no kitchen rolls or any hygene items such as soap.Something needs to be done make sure food is getting through.Any number of problems are on the horizon from malnutrition to outbreaks of other health problems’ in the home on top of this illness,leading to more burden.

    Food supplies need to be getting through to those on benefits and pensions.This a terrible situation made worse by talk of lockdowns and possible curfews.

    Help Us Find Food

    March 19, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    • I was at the foodbank today, donations are still coming in but demand is high and we’re 30% down on volunteers as those aged 70 and over and those with certain ongoing health conditions have been told not to come in. I get my JSA tomorrow so hoping to do some shopping very early in the morning before going to work at the foodbank again.

      trev

      March 19, 2020 at 9:04 pm

  99. Rumour has it that the UK is to go into lockdown at 5pm tomorrow.

    Containment

    March 19, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    • The jokecentres have just been closed down for 3 months. 2+2 = lockdown for up to 3 months. If wind of a lockdown gets out the supermarkets are going to be even more mental than they are now if that is even possible. We won’t be able to wipe our arses for up to 3 months.

      Contagion

      March 19, 2020 at 9:26 pm

      • “We won’t be able to wipe our arses for up to 3 months.”

        Just like in the 60s when I was a kid, a choice between Izal or newspaper! And the bog was outside in the yard lit by a paraffin lamp. But we were happy 😊

        trev

        March 19, 2020 at 9:41 pm

  100. The internet has all but crashed,we’re supposed to be looking for work as a job on JSA/UC but site loading is near impossible.

    The American’s were quick to pick this up.

    So We’re Working From Home. Can the Internet Handle It?

    With millions of people working and learning from home during the pandemic, internet networks are set to be strained to the hilt.

    ken's had enough!

    March 19, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    • Streaming companies like Netflix and Amazon et al that utilise massive amounts of bandwidth have a lot to answer for.

      William Gates

      March 20, 2020 at 6:52 am


  101. Fake News: An image showing military vehicles parked on a motorway at an unknown location has been posted today. Some people have claimed this is on motorways near London or Glasgow, but the vehicles are parked on the wrong side of the road indicating this is not from the UK

    Fake News

    March 19, 2020 at 9:40 pm

  102. superted

    March 19, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    • Scuffles break out outside London supermarket amid coronavirus panic buying

      Food retailers have warned the Government that riots and civil disobedience could break out

      How are we supposed to cope with that?

      ken

      March 20, 2020 at 1:27 am

  103. I really don’t believe that the DWP and/or Jobcentres are just going to leave people alone for months at a time. Appointments in person might be off the menu temporarily but I bet that the powers that be will be checking up on us and keeping contact with us regularly in other ways, e.g., phone calls, emails and messages posted in the UC Journal for those already on Universal Credit. Big Brother isn’t going to go away nor DWP staff going to be laid off for the duration or sit passively in their offices until the all clear. My bet is that these people will still be surveiling us remotely and waiting to pounce on those who fall down on their jobseeking activities like a cat stalking unsuspecting mice. I would urge everybody to prepare for this kind of scrutiny and be careful how they go.

    Ro

    March 20, 2020 at 7:00 am

  104. Jobcentre closure to be extended to the end of July, then for two years, then closed INDEFINITELY. Nobody will sign-on again EVER!!

    Rumour Mill

    March 20, 2020 at 7:04 am

  105. first they said we’re all gonna die, then they said 250 thousand will die now their saying maybe 20 thousand will die.

    they are saying keep.away form everyone, even people in your household.
    but you look in the paper and see groups of army and police together so are they immune?

    they said on Tuesday this will last for 18months, now they are saying it will last 12 weeks. I’m guessing this will last until every small business and minimum wage worker has lost there job, and their o ly option is to go on universal credit. the government are only intrested in helping rich people s companies.
    they want to control us, we as jobseekers already have experience with this, now they want to control more people on mass scale which will be a massive shock to their system.

    we can’t even go out and do anything anymore.

    the virus is the government.

    bid bird

    March 20, 2020 at 8:16 am

    • I don’t think the government means that coronavirus will be gone in twelve weeks, only that the number of people infected with it will be going down instead of going up all the time. Mathematicians have calculated that if people don’t isolate themselves as advised but keep mixing with each other and passing the virus to two or more people while they are still infectious as many as 250,000 could die, whereas if people are wise enough to remain separate enough, for long enough, with each person infecting less than one other person on average the spread of the virus will fall enough for the epidemic to begin to shrink over time. Corvid-19 is probably going to be with us forever and it will evolve and alter over time to become new strains of the virus which affect people differently and in new ways: these new strains could be more harmless or more deadly, nobody actually knows.

      Even if everybody is sensible enough to keep themselves isolated for long enough, as advised, computer models predict that at least 20,000 citizens will die because of the virus. This is about two and a half times the death rate from the “normal” influenza that crops up usually in winter. That’s a lot of people. Best to take the advice of the experts to heart so that you don’t end up one of them.

      Vladimir

      March 20, 2020 at 9:29 am

  106. jobcentres are still opened, nobody from my jobcentre has told me to not attend I have received no letter and I’m not gonna go by what some mysterious person is saying on twitter.
    ‘twitter told me not to go’
    I’m going jobcentre next week as normal,

    big bird

    March 20, 2020 at 8:22 am

    • I was informed via voicemail (odd cos my phone was on me the whole time and didn’t hear it ring) that my appointment was cancelled and my payment would be as normal. This information was repeated twice by some unnamed entity before they hung up. I presume that’s mostly how they’re informing people a day or two before they’re due to come in.

      For personal insurance purposes, I saved the voicemail and I plan to ring up on Monday and politely ask what the deal is with maintaining jobsearch and records of same as details on that have been disturbingly absent.

      I forsee a lot of people presuming the next 12 weeks are a free ride and being sanctioned for not producing what the Jobcentre deems “acceptable records of Jobsearch” at their next appointment, despite the fact many people could indeed be put out of a job over the coming months and employers are unlikely to advertise for risk of hiring an infected individual.

      AeonThePhoenix

      March 20, 2020 at 9:23 am

    • I would give them a ring and ask if I were you to save a wild goose chase.

      Clement Bevan

      March 20, 2020 at 9:41 am

    • I will be attending too until such time that I receive written notification from the jobcentre or see with my own eyes that the jobcentre is indeed closed.

      Joe the Jobseeker

      March 20, 2020 at 9:59 am

    • From the Daily Mirror:

      “The government has today suspended all Jobcentre appointments for three months due to coronavirus.

      People receiving benefits do not have to attend a Jobcentre in person for “at least” three months, starting today.

      A DWP spokesman said: ‘People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended.

      ‘People can still make applications for benefits online if they are eligible.

      ‘Jobcentres remain open, and will continue to support people who are not able to use phones and online, including homeless people.’

      The move means far fewer people will be sanctioned, as a big reason for having benefits stopped is failing to attend a Jobcentre appointment.”

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-coronavirus-dwp-suspends-jobcentre-21720988

      Artem Lacalles

      March 20, 2020 at 10:05 am

      • Yes, it says “requirements to attend”… not a word about whether maintaining jobsearch is a necessity or not. Will we be phoned fortnightly instead, asked to provide email evidence… this government is doing a crap job at informing the public of anything meaningful or helpful.

        AeonThePhoenix

        March 20, 2020 at 11:32 am

      • Just contacted the Jobcentre… after correcting the assumption I was on Universal Credit, the gentleman’s advice was to maintain Jobsearch records and bring everything in bulk to my next future appointment, whenever that might be. Apparently they’re having daily meetings over the Coronavirus and don’t know much more than we do. So, don’t let the record-keeping slide folks, we’re likely going to be heavily scrutinized when we have to return to the Jobcentre in person. If job vancancies do dry up, I’d advise taking a date/time-stamped screenshot of the sites you use every day showing that there was nothing to apply for just in case you find your weekly application count being a little short.

        AeonThePhoenix

        March 20, 2020 at 11:43 am

      • Sage advice.

        Confucious

        March 20, 2020 at 6:42 pm

  107. not going to be a problem 😉

    DSC_0052

    superted

    March 20, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    • They’ll never win with you Superted !

      Andy

      March 20, 2020 at 12:34 pm

  108. ‘Janet Burns, who helps run the Knottingley foodbank, said four people had prized open the locks of one of its storage facilities and “ransacked” the place of essential items.
    She said volunteers had taken delivery of a huge donation 24 hours before the burglary – which was all stolen in the raid. She said food, sanitary products, toilet roll and even Easter eggs that they were saving for next month had all been taken’. – Guardian

    Now people are stealing from foodbanks !

    Darren

    March 20, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    • IT’S DOG EAT DOG! EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!

      Snoop Doggy Dogshit

      March 20, 2020 at 1:38 pm

  109. I see Duncan Smith and his so-called Centre For Social Justice are arguing furiously against Universal Basic Income. He says it’s ‘a disincentive’ to work. Conveniently, his people at the CSJ have calculated the cost and said it would be far too expensive. This is bollocks of course. His main worry, apart from his religious obsessions regarding work, is that Universal Basic Income threatens his own pet project, Universal Credit. One of these is a fair and humane system, proven to cost less than the current adversarial benefit system. The other is the cruel child of neo-liberalism, and personal vanity.

    Jeff Smith

    March 20, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    • It might be a good thing for as many people as possible, previously in work and unconcerned about social security, to be exposed to the joys of universal credit in order to understand just how bad a thing it is.

      Mrs Bone

      March 20, 2020 at 1:37 pm

      • @Jeff smith: Too right there Jeff mate, well said ! No wonder IDS wants it stopped.

        Tony

        March 20, 2020 at 4:02 pm

      • Mrs Bone I work 25 hours a week and am left with barely more than id get if out of work by time rent ect is paid. I’m too scared to claim UC

        katrehman

        March 20, 2020 at 5:22 pm

  110. Johnson makes sure he can wipe his arse while demanding the peasants stop panic buying.

    Violet

    March 20, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    • Bet the worse than useless f¥cking tw@t has put all that arse paper on the taxpayers tab!

      Tigerlily

      March 20, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    • Sorry but having experienced the shite that man comes out with I don’t think a lorry load is going to be enough for him. Better order a second one Boris, you’ll need it!

      AeonThePhoenix

      March 20, 2020 at 5:48 pm

      • Theres still no rolls of anything locally,someone said to me it’ll bring out the best or the worst in people,who I spoke to said it’s the worst.

        Are some people selling these on? Soap is another item someone said I couldn’t see any but have enough of.

        ken

        March 21, 2020 at 2:41 am

      • I did shopping early yesterday morning, was in Home Bargains by 8.30am and they had sold out of soap, shower gel, toilet rolls, most tinned food, lots of empty shelves. A local shop down the road has tripled the price of large packs of toilet roll. I also normally go to Aldi, about half a mile walk from my house, but there’s not much chance of getting anything there at the moment, people have gone nuts.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 9:30 am

      • The 24 hour shops, Tesco for one, now close between 10pm and 6am. You have to be up with the lark if you want a chance of snaring a toilet roll or a bar of soap.

        Sharp Elbows

        March 21, 2020 at 9:45 am

      • How do you think people would react if say ISIS invaded the UK, an asteroid was about to whack us, Putin gave a 20 minute warning that a barrage of nuclear missiles was on there way? Would we be running around like headless chickens buying bog roll and beans. This little experiment has shown human nature for what it is. You can only imagine what will happen if the food ran out and the shops all shuttered up.

        Blaze

        March 21, 2020 at 9:55 am

      • @ Blaze

        It occurred to me that the supposed official reason for not disclosing the full truth about UFOs is probably correct, i.e. It would cause mass panic, crash the stock markets etc.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 12:43 pm

      • Oskana Boyko was interviewing some Russian ex-pat businessman on Putin’s propaganda channel, RT, the other day. He was preaching about how great humanity was. He was all for open borders. By open borders he really meant open borders into the UK, Europe and the USA, like we will ever be able to travel to Oz or the US, Russia etc. without a visa, He had no response when Oskana pointed out to him that he was conveniently forgetting there is a “dark side to human nature”. Coronavirus has shown that there is a very dark side.

        Blaze

        March 21, 2020 at 10:00 am

      • Very true, trev. Was just about to mention UFOs and aliens it but stopped short at asteroids hitting the Earth. Can you imagine how the public would react if the Government announced the presence of aliens, UFOs, that intelligent life forms had been found on other planets? Holy smoke, Batman! For one thing it would blow ALL religions out the water. We have proven once again that we are not mature enough to handle such knowledge. And then we complain about being treated like mushrooms – kept in the dark and fed shit. We deserve nothing more.

        Blaze

        March 21, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    • Cushelle isn’t it?

      Hubert Pritchard

      March 20, 2020 at 6:44 pm

  111. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-support-for-employees-benefit-claimants-and-businesses

    Changes to jobcentre appointments (19 March 2020)
    People receiving benefits do not have to attend jobcentre appointments for at least 3 months, starting from Thursday 19 March 2020. People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended.

    People can still make applications for benefits online if they are eligible.

    Jobcentres remain open, and will continue to support people who are not able to use phones and online, including homeless people.

    For people already claiming support
    Special arrangements will be in place for people in receipt of benefits who cannot attend reassessments or jobcentre appointments because they are required to stay at home or are infected by coronavirus.

    The arrangements are:

    disabled and sick claimants who cannot attend a reassessment for Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) or Universal Credit will continue to receive their payments while their assessment is rearranged
    people who need to claim ESA or Universal Credit because of coronavirus will not be required to produce a fit note.
    when claimants tell us in good time that they are staying at home or that they have been diagnosed with coronavirus, they will not be sanctioned – we will review their conditionality requirements in their claimant commitment, to ensure they are reasonable
    claimants who are staying at home as a result of coronavirus will have their mandatory work search and work availability requirements removed to account for a period of sickness.

    so if the jcp is open do we sign on or what as says nothing about jsa?

    superted

    March 20, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    • As clear a mud!

      Inspector Clueless

      March 20, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    • As clear as mud!

      Inspector Clueless

      March 20, 2020 at 1:48 pm

  112. Hunger games society, why the government is destroying small, medium and family businesses.

    Violet

    March 20, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    • I wondered when David would appear again. I’ll just ask this, is he able to produce an actual reptilian alien for scientific inspection ?

      George

      March 20, 2020 at 4:05 pm

  113. to ease everyone s mind they should send everyone a letter explaining what is going on and what they expect us to do.

    they are quick to send us a letter when we have been sanctioned.

    big bird

    March 20, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    • They send plenty of other letters such as that multi-page ‘annual review’ letter yet can’t send out a simple letter to say that you don’t have to attend the office. Will still be attending deadly bug or no deadly bug.

      joe the jobseeker

      March 23, 2020 at 11:33 pm

  114. The jury in the Alex Salmond trial has been sent home for the weekend. They will resume their deliberations on Monday.

    Court Reporter

    March 20, 2020 at 4:53 pm

  115. Guys UC is going up by 1000 a year for 1 year and housing benefit housing allowance and tax credits rising too

    katrehman

    March 20, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    • What about JSA?

      Billy Boyne

      March 20, 2020 at 5:59 pm

      • JSA is a legacy benefit that no one can claim anymore and so probably won’t be increased in the way that UC might be. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if the higher rate mentioned only goes to new claims made by people on zero-hour contracts and the self-employed rather than across the board.

        The Shoveller

        March 20, 2020 at 6:31 pm

      • JSA is being phased out and new claimants can’t get it. As the £1000.00 increase in UC is aimed at supporting working people temporarily out of work in the future there is no reason to increase JSA since only long-term claimants still get it and only until they get transferred onto UC.

        Boyce

        March 20, 2020 at 6:37 pm

  116. Anyone else watching Boris and co? Dunno what’s happening 2 me. I have been sent home after I had an asthma attack. It usually only bothers me if I have a chest infection. ..

    katrehman

    March 20, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    • I’ve just switched it on, I keep missing the Boris Show as it clashes with a UFO documentary on Blaze.

      trev

      March 20, 2020 at 5:38 pm

  117. My phone call with my advisor just been cancelled, someone will let me know at a later date

    It is my journal

    I think now it just checking my journal once a day, and update it what jobs I apply for

    All we can do

    my_final_username

    March 20, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    • The internet here is terrible during the day with speed.The only time is late/middle of the night its ok.

      EU warns of broadband strain as millions work from home
      Brussels tells streaming companies to limit services as Facebook says managing traffic is a “challenge”

      https://www.ft.com/content/b4ab03db-de1f-4f98-bcc2-b09007427e1b

      ken

      March 21, 2020 at 3:05 am

      • If people are working at home they are not working in the office so the net effect on internet traffic is NIL. Unless they are say at home streaming Netflix.

        Tabera

        March 21, 2020 at 8:41 am

  118. Bloody hell, forced closure of pubs, clubs, restaurants, leisure centres, gyms…thank God they’re not shutting laundrettes, I’ve got a fortnight’s worth of washing to do!

    trev

    March 20, 2020 at 5:52 pm

  119. “The Universal Credit standard allowance will increase by £1,000, for the next 12 months, as will the Working Tax Credit basic element.” What about JSA ?

    Billy Boyne

    March 20, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    • So off the top of my head that’s roughly an extra 20 quid a week, so JSA will be around £92/94 per week (ish). It’s bound to be JSA too, not just UC I would have thought. It’s just that for some strange reason they’re pretending that JSA doesn’t exist.

      trev

      March 20, 2020 at 6:07 pm

      • It’s a legacy benefit that can’t be claimed anymore and so can’t benefit the self-employed/zero-hour workers that the bung announced is aimed at. Therefore I would bet the farm that Jobseeker’s Benefit will not rise by over £1000.00 per year. Hopefully it will be uprated for the first time in four years to reflect inflation although things being what they are I wouldn’t bet on it. Can’t you ask to be transferred onto Universal Credit and cash in? That’s what I would do if I were you.

        J. Riddle

        March 20, 2020 at 6:27 pm

      • @ J. Riddle

        If it comes down to a straight forward choice between an extra £20 on UC or stay as you are on JSA, I’d choose JSA. If they then said you can have a further £20 deduction of JSA if you don’t want to do any jobsearch or ever attend any more employability skills courses, then I would choose that option too.

        trev

        March 20, 2020 at 6:34 pm

      • @ I wouldn’t put it past the DWP to run two different amounts. In order to entice people off JSA and onto Universal Credit.

        Graham

        March 20, 2020 at 7:23 pm

      • It wouldn’t entice me.

        trev

        March 20, 2020 at 7:31 pm

      • @ J Riddle-

        JSA has already been confirmed as uprated to £74.35 from the 6th April.

        @ trev-

        I suspect JSA, Income Support and ESA will not be increasing. It’s a ploy to get the stragglers onto UC by enticing them with the promise of extra cash. I’d be careful though, presumably you’ll have to go five weeks without money if you voluntarily move over.

        KJ

        March 22, 2020 at 3:13 am

    • Probably only for new claims I bet.

      Doubting Tamsyn

      March 20, 2020 at 6:23 pm

      • J Riddle they specifically mentioned tax cresits and housing benefit too and you can’t claim those now. They’re legacy benefits as is jobseekers

        katrehman

        March 20, 2020 at 7:09 pm

      • J riddLe it also mentioned tax credits and housing benefit and they can’t be claimed anymore too as they’re legacy benefits as is jobseekers

        katrehman

        March 20, 2020 at 7:14 pm

      • That’s true Kat, I think JSA will also increase, it surely would have to be included, but like I’ve said, they seem to have some bizarre aversion to even mentioning that JSA still exists. JSA claimants are persona non grata.

        trev

        March 20, 2020 at 7:27 pm

  120. Oddly, whilst my GP surgery is in lockdown, the dentists across the road is operating as normal and I’ve got a check-up appointment on Tuesday. Maybe I’ll cancel.

    trev

    March 20, 2020 at 6:00 pm

  121. It’s odd that Jobseeker’s Allowance has not even been mentioned in these new increases. Even the Housing Benefit increase isn’t all it seems. Housing Benefit is already set at 30% of average rents. So you won’t see much difference there. It seems as if the legacy benefit claimants are deliberately being ignored. I wouldn’t bank on JSA being increased by a single penny. There are still going to be an estimated 700,000 job losses over the next 12 months. And probably a considerable shift to zero-hours employment, to fill the gap as things get back to normal. Who has to do zero-hours and part-time work ? People on Universal Credit.
    Who does not have to do zero-hours work ? People on Jobseeker’s Allowance.

    Jeff Smith

    March 20, 2020 at 7:51 pm

    • This deliberate attempt at willfully ignoring JSA claimants is indicative of Tory bloody-mindedness in their determination to steam-roller ahead with Universal Credit regardless of the costs, both human and financial, in the misguided belief that it is a great success and the best thing since sliced bread. Of course deep down they know full well it’s been an unmitigated disaster from the beginning, but they dare not admit to that even they know it and everyone else knows it.

      trev

      March 20, 2020 at 8:25 pm

      • Thing is the £1,000 increase is for one year only, aimed at raising UC to the same level as SSP (Statutory Sick Pay) so that the self-employed and people on zero-hour contracts and whatnot can claim UC at the same rate as SSP to tide them over if their earnings are hit during the Covid-19 epidemic. It’s not designed to help benefit claimants per se but as a temporary sweetener to stop certain categories of workers moaning about getting less help from the state than normal full-time salaried workers, if they get strapped for cash, and because all new claims for help these days are for Universal Credit only UC gets the increase.

        THE INCREASE IS NOT DESIGNED TO HELP BENEFIT CLAIMANTS BUT TO HELP WORKERS HIT BY DIFFICULTIES DURING THE COVID-19 EPIDEMIC WHO ARE FORCED TO CLAIM UC TEMPORARILY.

        Jobseeker’s Allowance is a dying legacy benefit and anybody on it must have been on it a LONG time.

        Kicky

        March 21, 2020 at 6:23 am

      • Does Microsoft still provide support for ‘legacy’ operating systems such as Windows 95, XP, Windows 7. No they don’t. Legacy operating systems are airbrushed from history as soon as support ends. So why do you expect the DWP to still provide support for a legacy benefit? JSA is no longer supported.

        William Gates III

        March 21, 2020 at 8:48 am

      • Nobody on Jobseeker’s Allowance ended up on it because of coronavirus. THIS is why JSA won’t benefit from the temporary £1,000.00 uprating. The uprating is to help people who need support from the state because of the virus and claim UC temporarily; it looks as if everybody else will get it too, presumably because it’s too difficult to pay UC at different rates based on infection by the virus. All those on JSA will just have to put on their big boy or big girl pants and suck it up.

        Wolfie

        March 21, 2020 at 10:07 am

      • yeah, the very long term dole scum still sat on jsa ain’t gonna get an extra penny.

        eastlfe

        March 21, 2020 at 10:34 am

      • JSA is the operating equivalent of Windows 95 😀

        Steve Jobs

        March 21, 2020 at 10:38 am

      • JSA is the operating system equivalent of WIndows 95 😀

        Steve Jobs

        March 21, 2020 at 10:39 am

      • Will those of us still claiming National Assistance receive this increase?

        Labour Exchange

        March 21, 2020 at 10:42 am

      • @ Wolfie- Or drop the JSA claim and apply for UC.

        KJ

        March 22, 2020 at 3:03 am

  122. It seems Duncan Smith and his Christian acolytes at the Centre for Social Justice, have managed to steer the government away from Universal Basic Income.

    Proverbs 19:17 (NIV)
    “Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done.”

    Alan Turner

    March 20, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    • So Alan using that logician drunken spite and his cronies will burn in he’ll. ..

      katrehman

      March 20, 2020 at 11:11 pm

  123. On the bright side Jobcentres will soon be referring unemployed people for temporary work at supermarkets like ASDA, Tesco and Sainsburys to stack shelves and unload lorries etc., because they need thousands more people to restock their stores and help them keep up with demand. Good news I think we can all agree although kind of sad it’s being caused by a disease like coronavirus.

    Morris

    March 21, 2020 at 6:38 am

    • ASDA take work experience slaves from the providers. Don’t expect to get paid. But the unpaid work will look good on your CV 😀

      Asda Slave

      March 21, 2020 at 8:53 am

    • Panic buyer/ prepper bastards can burn in HELL!! Fuck stacking shelves or driving delivery vans for these connards. These bastards are the lowest of the low. Pure fucking SCUM!!

      Shelf Stacker

      March 21, 2020 at 8:56 am

    • @ Morris

      I’ve applied for supermarket jobs in the past but have never got passed the online test consisting of about 20 stupid questions; “If the manager told you to do this but that happened what would you do? A, B, C, D….etc. Though I have recently registered with Morrisons without any test but haven’t heard back from them.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 9:38 am

      • You are leaving your shift when you receive a phone call that your kid has been hit by a truck and is in a critical condition in hospital. As you are leaving the manager calls you back and says that they have received a delivery of toilet roll that needs to stacked before the panic buyers descend at 6am. What do to do?

        A) Go to the hospital
        B) Go back into the shop

        Scroll down for answer
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        The answer is B) You got back into the shop.

        Another one. Work is the most important thing in my life Agree/Disagree.

        Answer: Agree

        Bet you answered A) Go to the hospital and Disagree. See now where you are going wrong?

        Recruiter

        March 21, 2020 at 10:23 am

      • @ Recruiter

        The questions were along those lines but more ambiguous, not quite so cut & dried choices.

        You are working on the checkout with a long line of customers to serve and have been given a target to keep, an old lady drops a box of eggs as you are serving her, do you break off from serving other customers to clean up the mess yourself, do you call for another assistant to clean up the mess and get replacement eggs, do you call for another assistant to take your place on the checkout, do you call for the Manager, do you continue serving the other customers? Select answers in order of the best and worst things to do.

        There were about 20 fucking questions of that nature, and I’m fucked if I know what I’d do.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      • There is a variant on that question for a call centre. You have targets. An old man phones with a problem with his landline. Do you sell him broadband? Broadband + Sky Sports? Contact Openreach to fix his landline? You have to find out what they are are looking and how to answer or you are screwed.

        Jenny

        March 21, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    • A supermarket is the LAST place that you would want to be working at the moment. They are all shit scared of catching this ‘deadly virus’. The self-scan machines are being constantly disinfected. Anything that involves close contact with the public is to be avoided like hospital work, bus drivers etc. The DWP can stuff these jobs. The dolies weren’t good enough before anyway, so why now? Something to do with a ‘deadly virus’ on the go?

      De Tol

      March 22, 2020 at 10:04 am

      • @De Tol

        You know the other place I’d hate to be working? A Job Centre. They’re soon going to be flooded by new claimants recently made unemployed, or the self employed whose businesses have collapsed. That’s thousands of irate, impatient, potentially infected people, coughing, sneezing and shouting in the advisers faces when they are told they will have to wait five weeks to get paid.

        Good luck!

        bob

        March 23, 2020 at 2:28 pm

  124. Suddenly the true reason for FEMA CAMPS situated in remote areas of the U.S.A. seems to make sense as the controlled release of laboratory engineered pathogens into our airspace is hyped to the limit to bring about
    a collapse of world values amid mass hysteria.

    Google the words, FEMA CAMP and try to understand who would purchase millions of plastic coffins large enough to carry several bodies.

    Divide and rule using the element of fear.

    Vast amounts of untold wealth suddenly available to combat a multitude of crises around the globe.

    Vigilante groups and rioting may follow sooner than you think as martial law unfolds on our streets and the main stream media plays out it’s role in the biggest con trick ever…………………………CORONA VIRUS!

    timfrom

    March 21, 2020 at 10:04 am

    • We are not bothered. Our freezers are stuffed to the gunnels. We have enough food, water and toilet rolls stashed to last at least 25 years. Like anything is going to affect us.

      The Preppers

      March 21, 2020 at 10:08 am

    • Where did Rishi Sunak suddenly magic up £400 billion from? Thought there was no magic money tree?

      Abracadaba

      March 21, 2020 at 10:12 am

      • This is still a wealthy country, and there has always been a magic money tree. It’s just that the Tories pretend it’s not there most of the time. That’s Conservatism for you.

        Xenia

        March 21, 2020 at 12:50 pm

      • Sunak made his millions as a merchant banker before the crash, trading in sub prime mortgages etc. Just like the previous chancellor did. Maybe he should return all that money to the taxpayers who had to bale out the banks.

        Ali

        March 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm

  125. ha,
    so people losing their jobs have a cheek to say universal credit is not enough to livee on, they weren’t saying that when they have been looking at us dole scum for years.

    big bird

    March 21, 2020 at 10:08 am

  126. Where I live the Jobcentres are already recruiting for supermarkets, contacting claimants and sending them for interviews. Hereabouts Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Lidl, Morrison’s and Aldi are all competing for staff and offering more money per hour than usual! The supermarkets are so desperate for staff at present they are no longer testing people online in many cases as usual. Basically these businesses are happy to give anybody a chance these days and Jobcentres, with not much else to do, are busily contacting claimants and forcing them to take these positions under threat of sanctions if they refuse. Most of these jobs involve doing things which need no or very little training, e.g., replacing good on shelves, often during unsociable hours. Still when all is said and done work is work and it’s best to grab it while you can even though, because of the number of customers visiting in supermarkets 24/7, you will have an increased chance of catching Corvid-19 although not much chance of perishing thank God!

    Steve-O

    March 21, 2020 at 10:25 am

    • And even higher chance of catching the deadly virus if you are working in more cramped stores like Aldi and Lidl. Wouldn’t be so sure of not perishing. Why take the chance with your life? People that perish are quickly forgotten about and the survivors quickly move on. Let the hoarders stack their own shelves. It is not the unemployed who are stripping the shelves bare.

      Sami

      March 21, 2020 at 10:50 am

    • @ Steve- O

      Trouble is with a lot of supermarket /retail jobs you don’t get a full-time contract, you might only be contracted to work 8 hours but may be required to work 20 or 30 hours, but you don’t know from week to week how many hours you’ll be working or how much you’ll be earning. How can anyone budget for bills and rent in that situation? Ok perhaps if you have a partner in full-time work with a regular income and the retail job is just a supplementary second wage coming in, but no good for a single person living alone in rented accommodation. I don’t want to have to be claiming UC on top of working, if I get a job I want to sign off Benefits completely and have fuck all to do with the DWP.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 1:05 pm

      • @ trev

        You make it sound as if we can pick and choose, mate, and where I come from people on benefits fit for work can’t. No way, no how. It’s do what you’re told or be stripped of your money. Even if you are sanctioned unfairly, appeal and eventually get what was taken away back you end up without any money to live on for months and months and I’m not in a position to do that. If you can pull strokes and get away with it good luck to you.

        Steve-O

        March 21, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    • Funny when the chips are down and they are desperate for staff in work in an environment strewn with a deadly virus all the assessments, interviews, references and stupid questions that trev can’t answer go by the wayside. The Coronavirus Act even suspends criminal record checks. Kind of like with the mandatory work schemes of old. Just goes to show what a load of all bull these assessments, etc, are. Regular staff will be looking for relief and want to take time off whilst the dolies expose themselves to danger. If they dolies survive they will be dumped like a soiled rag as soon as this virus passes.

      Forest

      March 21, 2020 at 3:36 pm

  127. We saw a young Chinese girl with an overflowing trolley being pulled over in Tesco the other night by what looked like a manager. Security was still stood at his pod.. He asked her “Why have you bought so much?”, “I have many people to feed”. He then ushered her in the direction of the customer services area. Her shopping was already packed in reusable carrier bags in the trolley. She had already paid for it. They then started taking it out and scanning it. Presumably to take it back and issue a refund. Never seen this happen before. Can they even take goods back that you have already paid for?

    Roslyn

    March 21, 2020 at 10:59 am

  128. Not looking good for the fight against global warming.Another clear demonstration of the interests of the self superseding the interests of the collective.

    Greta

    March 21, 2020 at 12:36 pm

  129. Had a feeling iain Duncan Smith and his Tory cronies would do everything they could to sink Universal Basic Income. It goes to the heart of Universal Credit. In his view it’s about making people work, whatever the consequences.

    Rod

    March 21, 2020 at 12:43 pm

  130. The UK has just 6.6 intensive care beds per 100,000 people – half the number in Italy and about a fifth of the total in Germany . Ten years of Tory attacks on the NHS , now what ?

    Nathan

    March 21, 2020 at 12:48 pm

  131. Coronavirus scare – the hoax of the century? Dr Vernon Coleman explains why he thinks the current hysteria over the coronavirus has a hidden agenda.

    Cloverleaf

    March 21, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    • @ Cloverleaf

      I don’t think it can be a hoax when people in their 20s are now dying in Italy. By the time this is all over could be millions dead.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 3:49 pm

      • Trev, are you still lapping up the bullshit from the fakestream media!

        Tigerlily

        March 21, 2020 at 3:59 pm

      • It’s a big excuse to force us all to be forcibly vaccinated then millions really will die, if you refuse to be vaxxed you won’t be allowed to enter any public places like supermarkets, jobcentres etc or even be allowed to travel on public transport, please do some research on this and try and wake up things are going to get out of hand very soon.

        Cloverleaf

        March 21, 2020 at 4:17 pm

      • Many prescriptions medicines, drugs etc have been found to be harmful to human health, so probably not too far from the truth.

        Laumer

        March 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm

      • Rubbish! Modern medicine is the main reason why the human population has grown so high. Vaccines save lives.

        trev

        March 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    • Oh cock off, you fucking conspiracy theory pushing nutcase.

      KJ

      March 22, 2020 at 2:45 am

      • Cock off yourself

        Violet

        March 22, 2020 at 9:28 am

  132. lol trev and you are sat by your phone waiting for coachy to phone with an offer of a job in a supermarket 😀
    the same coach that gave you a contaminated pen to sign on 😀 Do you want to make it through this alive or do you want to wind up dead. Best advice is to hunker down, get supplies, beans, bullets and barbed wire. Get supplies when the malls are less crowded. Avoid public transport at all cost. Get some fresh air and exercise but beware of contamination in your immediate area, better to use stairs rather than lifts etc.
    observe you neighbours. Be ready to make a run for it, have a ‘bug-out bag’ ready, access to a reliable vehicle with full tank is ideal but you have to make a move quick, it you leave it too late it will be too late. Don’t trust any media. Keep in contact with a few people you trust. And above all, use your own common sense rather than relying on an instruction from authority. This could easily descend into a deadly fight not just for toilet tissue but your very survival.

    Survialist

    March 21, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    • Don’t rely on your smartphone either. The internet could go down in a flash. Keep some cash handy. Automated tellers could do down at any time. Have some gold and silver to hand to trade with. Have a battery radio with spare batteries, the wider it’s coverage the better. .keep essential medication handy. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

      Survialist

      March 21, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    • @ Survivalist

      Thanks for the advice but I’ll just do the sensible things like washing my hands, using hand sanitizer, and avoiding unnecessary social contact where possible, though I do sometimes have to come into contact with other people such as in shops, or at the laundrette, and when working in the foodbank, for e.g. But other than that I’ll stay at home and trust in God. If it’s my time to die who am I to argue with that? If I live I live. After all, I know I have lived before, so why worry about it?

      P.S.

      My Work Coach can’t send me for any jobs unless they’re full time as I’m on JSA not UC.

      trev

      March 21, 2020 at 4:44 pm

      • Coachy should be on ignore. Fuck coachy!

        Enlipe

        March 21, 2020 at 5:01 pm

      • Metempsychosis was out of vogue for a time but now reincarnation is making a come back! Heh!

        Joker

        March 21, 2020 at 5:37 pm

  133. Coronavirus: People urged not to visit Highlands to flee virus

    People have been urged to stop travelling to the Highlands in a bid to avoid the coronavirus.

    It follows reports of people with second homes or those with campervans travelling to the area in recent days.

    The issue has prompted Scotland’s finance secretary, who is also a Highlands MSP, to tell people to stay away.

    Kate Forbes said people should not make the Highlands their “means of self-isolation”.

    ‘Escaping the cities’

    To date there have been 373 confirmed cases of coronavirus in Scotland, only eight of them have been in the Highlands.

    In a tweet posted on Friday evening, Ms Forbes, who represents Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch, said: “If you live elsewhere, please don’t use the Highlands as your means of self-isolation. People live here who are trying to follow government guidance and the continuing flow of campervans and other traffic who appear to be escaping the cities is not helping.”

    If you live elsewhere, please don’t use the Highlands as your means of self-isolation. People live here who are trying to follow government guidance and the continuing flow of campervans and other traffic who appear to be escaping the cities is not helping. https://t.co/85sdtdyS3w
    — Kate Forbes MSP (@KateForbesMSP) March 20, 2020

    Her intervention comes as the first minister confirmed compulsory closures of restaurants, cafes, pubs, gyms and cinemas across Scotland.

    But Nicola Sturgeon said the crisis would pass if people followed health advice and looked out for each other.

    Ms Sturgeon also warned that the number of Covid-19 cases was “set to rise sharply”.

    She urged people to follow social distancing advice to save lives and reduce pressure on the NHS.

    ISLANDS OF BARRA AND VATERSAY ARE CLOSED. Don’t travel here, don’t put unnecessary strain on our medical staff and limited resources. We will open again and be delighted to see you. But in the meantime we are looking after our community, the thing that makes us so special.
    — 𝙄𝙨𝙡𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝘽𝙖𝙧𝙧𝙖 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@BarraIsland) March 20, 2020

    In the Western Isles, where there have been no confirmed cases of the virus so far, locals from Barra and Vatersay also urged people not to travel there to avoid the virus.

    They described the isles as “closed”.

    A social media post said: “Don’t travel here, don’t put unnecessary strain on our medical staff and limited resources.

    “We will open again and be delighted to see you. But in the meantime we are looking after our community, the thing that makes us so special.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-51990534

    Zombie Apocalypse

    March 21, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    • Zombies are fleeing London.

      Zombie Apocalypse

      March 21, 2020 at 5:03 pm

      • MPs often return to their constituencies at weekends.

        Argh!

        March 21, 2020 at 5:35 pm

  134. Unconfirmed twitter reports/rumours/fake news of convoys of Army vehicles on M74 and other motorways.

    Zombie Apocalypse

    March 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm

  135. If you stop bathing and stop laundering your clothes until the epidemic ends your body odour will help you to avoid social contact. You will also save money on toilet soap, water and washing powder. Win, win, win. You know it makes sense.

    Whiffy Grimes

    March 21, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    • Most of the people who haunt this site are already doing that and have been doing it for years previously as it happens.

      Muddy Boots

      March 21, 2020 at 5:41 pm

  136. This same day, statistically around 5,000 people in the world quietly died from tuberculosis & no armies deployed…. wtf?

    Think about that.

    Violet

    March 21, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    • you have a 99.8% chance of not going to die from controllus virus ppl are thick as shit to believe this crap half a million ppl die in the uk every year.

      177 are now dead from cv

      The Department for Transport (DfT) has announced there were 1,784 reported road deaths in 2018.

      Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that’s nearly 170,000 deaths each year – an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.

      Drug deaths rose sharply in England and Wales to reach record numbers last year, official figures show. There were 2,917 deaths from illicit drugs in 2018, the Office of National Statistics said, a rise of 17%

      The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe’s population. In total, the plague may have reduced the world population from an estimated 475 million to 350–375 million in the 14th century
      A rough estimate is that 25 million people in Europe died from plague during the Black Death.

      it does not add up what the governments are doing there is no need for it at all it is being done on purpose for a reason.

      and that reason will be killing more of us than any virus you wait and see. im still going to sign on, why not? there still open.

      superted

      March 21, 2020 at 6:37 pm

      • Well said ted spot on!

        Violet

        March 21, 2020 at 6:59 pm

      • Thing is that by slowing or stopping people from being infected with Covid-19 you can save lives, same as you can with heart and circulatory diseases by giving people medicines, surgery and other treatments, which almost everybody will get if they need them from the NHS, which keeps people alive for longer than otherwise but can’t stop them dying eventually. If you can extend the lives of people with heart and respiratory disease you would wouldn’t you and, similarly, if you can save thousands of lives by taking action against coronavirus why would you act differently? So far 12,964 people have dies who would have lived if they hadn’t contracted the disease which is increasing its spread exponentially.

        https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

        There are about 65.64 million people in the UK and if 1% died because of the virus 656,400 men and women would be lying in their graves, prematurely, who wouldn’t be if they had not been infected with Covid-19.

        If no action is taken many hundreds of thousands are predicted to die based on the growth of the disease in the population. There is no country in the world that is not acting to curb the expansion of Corvid-19. Not even North America under the unwise and irresponsible Donald Trump, a man who said first that the virus was a hoax, later not much worse than a heavy cold or the flu, and now closing the borders of his country to outsiders and declaring a national emergency.

        Coronavirus isn’t deadly in the way that Spanish Flu was but it is deadly serious and needs serious attention.

        Dai Bando

        March 21, 2020 at 8:08 pm

      • If it can’t pass to a new host it will just die out surely? Hunkering down and lying low until it passes over has to be the best approach. We are living, breathing human beings, when we are gone we are gone. Unlike money we cannot be printed. If we have to stay off work – just print some money. If the markets crash – just print some money. Money is not even real, it is an abstract concept. Coronavirus may not even be real.

        Ben Bernacke

        March 21, 2020 at 10:52 pm

      • Women have a 0.65% chance of dying g of cervical cancer yet for years we have been bullied and forced into having smear tests because doctors receive financial incentives if 80% of the women on the practice list get smeared. Every year around 900 women die of this cancer and 875 women die in falls on stairs. The no 1 killer of women is stroke and heart disease. Never mind forced vaccinations women have been forced into screening for countless years!

        katrehman

        March 22, 2020 at 3:16 am

      • You can opt out of smear tests, Kat, but you can’t opt out of Covid-19 if its spread isn’t controlled. The Spanish Flu, which actually began in America, ended up killing over 50,000,000 people worldwide because people didn’t practice self-isolation which allowed the virus to spread around the world like wildfire.

        Juan Genaro Flores

        March 22, 2020 at 7:43 am

  137. When everyone is not aloud to go out, they will police it by tracking people’s smart phones to see if they left their house. If you leave your smart at home they can not track you going out. But most people can’t live without smart phones, so these people will be going to a detention center for at least 3 months & a £10,000 fine.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 21, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    • Indeed Juan we can opt out of smear tests but only in recent years have we been told this or how to do it. When data protection laws changed a bill was rushed through to say that an epidemic of this cancer would occur if women’s details weren’t rounded up so they could be “invited” for screening. Women have been refused diabetes and asthma meds or even an appointment to discuss bunions until she had a smear. Women buy drugs online to avoid docs and pap crap. This programme has ridden roughshod over our rights for YEAR.S. And yes I know we can’t opt out of Coronavirus. But just as I blog about workers rights etc I also blog about this vile programme to raise awareness of it!

      katrehman

      March 22, 2020 at 9:52 am

  138. Put phone on airplane mode then they can’t track you I do it all the time.

    Violet

    March 21, 2020 at 7:01 pm

  139. TV Licensing goons put ‘NOT IN?’ card through the door and were round loudly banging on the door this evening. We don’t even watch the BBC. Come on, Boris, grow a pair and closedown these bastards – permanently. They won’t be missed.

    TVL - FUCK OFF!

    March 21, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    • There has been markedly increased activity from the TVL goons lately. They must think we are all stuck indoors ‘self-isolating’.

      bev

      March 22, 2020 at 6:28 pm

  140. Just seen all DWP staff will be made key workers as the system gears up to take the predicted avalanche of new claims from ppl losing their jobs claiming sickness pay ect. Oh and a worker at Buckingham Palace has tested positive for the virus

    katrehman

    March 22, 2020 at 9:45 am

  141. Why have the DWP chosen to use some sort of ‘gif’ image that you need a supercomputer to display. What
    fucking planet do the DWP live on. Like those on there miserly benefits have the very latest up-to-date supercomputer. Fucking arsewipes!

    DWP are ARSEWIPES!!

    March 22, 2020 at 9:57 am

  142. Comment [before it is deleted] on a local newspaper article about ‘coronavirus’ [before it is deleted]

    “Why does [local newspaper] delete comments on these stories?
    Some comments are logical and insightful, yet they disappear quickly”

    What is going on here? Is the coronavirus ‘narrative’ being controlled? Why the censorship?

    Big Mags

    March 22, 2020 at 10:18 am

  143. WALMINGTON-ON-SEA

    BRITISH MILITARY PLANNERS DRAFTED IN TO HELP MAINTAIN LOCKDOWN IN COUNCIL AREAS.

    Captain Mainwaring

    March 22, 2020 at 11:05 am

    • “Don’t panic, don’t panic…”

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 3:42 pm

  144. Breaking news…

    Dominic Cummings: Protect the economy and if some pensioners die, ‘too bad’

    Corana Virus News Update Premium Subscription Service

    March 22, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    • how much of his dole does coates spend to bring us this ‘service’, i wonder?

      curious

      March 22, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      • @coates – The Hidden Master has no time for your petty insults.

        Zephyrus

        March 22, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    • Me: “Protect Pensioners and the economy and if Dominic Cummings dies: Too bad.”

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 12:42 pm

  145. When the German ‘discounters’ first opened up shop they they only had trolleys, no baskets in their stores. They admitted this was to get us to buy more. (Now they have larger baskets that you can wheel around if you want.) So, given the current situation why haven’t the supermarkets not locked away the trolleys? They should go one step further and remove the baskets too. You may have a huge 4×4 Range Rover sat out in the car park but having to make repeat trips for one can of beans must surely be a deterrent to these greedy, fuck-everyone-else shelf-striping bastards.

    Elsa

    March 22, 2020 at 12:25 pm

  146. It would be more realistic if the DWP suspended jobsearch requirements for the next 3 months. During this time of national emergency.

    Tom Sutton

    March 22, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    • its not likely that you are going to get any interviews is it lol just a waste of time as usual 😉

      superted

      March 22, 2020 at 2:07 pm

      • I went for jobs at supermarkets and failed the online tests.

        There is likely to be less adverts to apply for now.So much needs to be done and people on benefits just abandoned.

        ken

        March 22, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    • Totally agree Tom, but they are not likely to officially publicly announce that as it would be seen as giving something to the ‘workshy scroungers’, and going soft on the ‘shirkers’. In reality I suspect that they will be unofficially forced to turn a blind eye to jobsearch as there are fewer job opportunities and jobsearch is limited and hindered by the current situation. Let’s face it, who’s going to have the time to check back through 3 months of jobsearch evidence when we do eventually return to attending the Jobcentres. I will keep doing the odd bit as I can online, click-apply for any old shite and keep the confirmation emails in a separate folder just in case, but it’s not a primary concern. But I’m on jsa so that’s ok, not sure how those on UC go on with their journals and all that malarkey.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 3:20 pm

      • @trev- It’s ridiculous, as you say, they don’t have the staff to check a 3 month pile of jobsearch for each claimant. And because of a justifiable fear of being sanctioned, many claimants are having to visit public libraries to keep their jobsearch going. Exposing themselves to risk of infection each time. But the pubs, cafes etc. have all been closed. So where in all common-sense, is the difference between someone going to a crowded library, or to the local pub ? But one look at the face of Duncan Smith, when confronted with the possibility of Universal Basic Income said it all. Horrified suspicion that people might like UBI, see all the advantages of it, and then not want to give it up.

        Tom Sutton

        March 22, 2020 at 3:48 pm

      • @trev

        None of my advisers have ever asked for “proof” of anything, so my jobsearch on Universal Credit isn’t really that much different to JSA.

        The big change was when the Jobcentre stopped manually putting jobs on their own dedicated website and outsourced the whole operation. They used to be able to contact employers direct to check if you had applied. Now, they have no way of checking.

        bob

        March 23, 2020 at 2:57 pm

  147. Twatter

    March 22, 2020 at 2:29 pm

  148. People make mistakes.

    B(,)(,)bs

    March 22, 2020 at 2:58 pm

  149. Alright for some.

    “This means that (from April) for a single Universal Credit claimant (aged 25 or over), the standard allowance will increase from £317.82 to £409.89 per month”

    Birmingham Mail

    Limp Richard

    March 22, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    • So no increase for the pariahs of society on JSA, which is probably a million or two people, left struggling to survive on 70-odd poxy quid.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 3:40 pm

      • @trev: Yeah, it’s punishment for the legacy claimants. And you can bet that the DWP attitude is get onto Universal Credit then if you don’t like it.

        Pete

        March 22, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    • That is over £20 nicker a week between uc and the jsa equivalent! Over £40 nicker a fortnight and over £1000 nicker a year, Hardly chump change. How can the DWP get away with paying claimants in EXACTLY the same circumstances a different rate, a significantly different rate? This has to be challenged in the courts.

      joe jobseeker

      March 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm

      • DWP answer: “JSA recipients can voluntary transfer themselves onto Universal Credit at their discretion. If they choose to stay on JSA rather than have their claim transferred to the new system they have refused, voluntarily, to accept the terms, conditions and obligations Universal Credit demands and therefore disqualified themselves from receiving the extra help, support and higher payment rates available with Universal Credit until migrated compulsorily from the legacy system to the new system in due course.”

        Tom Tom Club

        March 22, 2020 at 4:24 pm

      • @ Tom Tom

        Where did you get that quote from, is there a link?

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 4:38 pm

      • @ Joe Jobseeker

        The Nasty Party strikes again. Even a Global Pandemic is insufficient grounds to suspend the Class War.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 6:33 pm

      • What if Sunak bungs another £20 onto uc? JSA will be left in the dirt. He could be in the process of doubling it,,, and then some, for all we know. Just the like Class War’s manifesto 😉

        I Bone

        March 22, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    • They’ll have a bloody hard time trying to strip this increase out of UC come April 2021. Has any government ever reduced a social security benefit by £1000 in one go? There will be hell to pay if they try to do this you mark my words.

      Stephen

      March 22, 2020 at 4:14 pm

  150. Revealed: official guidance for doctors to decide which coronavirus patients get critical care

    Triage to be based on patient ‘frailty score’ and age-banded mortality tables for pneumonia and underlying heart and lung conditions

    Official guidance has been issued to NHS intensive care doctors on how to decide which coronavirus patients should get critical care.

    The guidance was issued by National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) yesterday and provides an “algorithm” to help doctors decide who should be admitted to critical care and who should not.

    In Italy there has been controversy as – with hospitals overwhelmed – doctors have reportedly been forced to discriminate between patients based crudely on age alone.

    The UK has about half the number of critical care beds per head of population as Italy and intensive care doctors here have been calling for central guidance on triage to be issued for several days.

    The NICE guidance does not categorise potential patients by age but instead asks doctors to score patients on a nine-point “clinical frailty scale” [CFS] .
    Nice advice

    At one end of the scale, with a score of one, are the “Very Fit” – people who are “robust, active, energetic and motivated”, and who “exercise regularly”. At the other end, with a score of nine, are the “Terminally ill”.

    The NICE algorithm divides patients at a score of five, the “Mildly Frail”.

    Those with a score of less than five who would like critical care are considered well enough to benefit, subject to a review of any underlying conditions and the severity of their illness.

    Those scoring over five are put through a process where doctors must decide if critical care is “considered appropriate” before proceeding.

    “For patients with confirmed Covid-19, decisions about admission to critical care should be made on the basis of medical benefit, taking into account the likelihood that the person will recover to an outcome that is acceptable to them and within a period of time consistent with the diagnosis,” says NICE

    Frailty scale

    Intensive care doctors use frailty scales in normal times to assess patients.

    But the new triage guidance also provides them with mortality data for patients suffering from pneumonia in critical care beds compared to a regular ward. This data is banded by age as are similar mortality tables for patients with and without underlying heart and lung conditions.

    These data will help doctors make better informed decisions beyond the patient’s frailty score on the “medical benefit” of their receiving critical care.

    Most coronavirus deaths are caused by pneumonia.

    The guidelines also say that Covid-19 patients receiving treatment for cancer or who need dialysis must also be carefully assessed ahead of receiving critical care.

    “Where decisions need to be made about prioritising patients for treatment, these need to take into account the level of immunosuppression associated with individual treatments and cancer types,” it says.

    Nice says the guidelines will be updated as more data becomes available. They have been produced in collaboration with NHS England and a cross-specialty clinical group, supported by the specialist societies and Royal Colleges, it adds.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/revealed-official-guidance-doctors-decide-coronavirus-patients/

    Newshounds

    March 22, 2020 at 4:00 pm

  151. So we can look forward to more of this discrimination in the future between JSA claimants and Universal Credit claimants ? A double-standard of DWP service ?

    Colin Claimant

    March 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    • JSA is being phased out and won’t be around that much longer.

      Tolstrup

      March 22, 2020 at 4:16 pm

      • @ Tolstrup

        Yes JSA is being phased out but it will still be at least another 4 years before that happens. If it happens. I think it’s inevitable that UC will evolve into Basic Income in the end, once IDS has snuffed it, or Labour gets back in.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 4:35 pm

      • @ trev

        No, mate. That’s wrong. The 2024 date is the year when EVERYBODY receiving ANY of the six legacy benefits will be receiving their equivalent by means of Universal Credit. It doesn’t mean that people will keep on receiving Jobseeker’s Allowance for another four years; migration of JSA claimants onto UC is supposed to be one of the “primary landmarks” set by the DWP . The government will not want to go into the next election with millions of people still on legacy benefits wants to “front load” migrating JSA claimants to UC in order to get the pain over early in the current parliament, have time to iron out forthcoming difficulties, and rise out forthcoming scandals. My bet is that the JSA migration will happen sooner rather than later and pick up speed as it goes.

        It will come too late to enjoy the £1000.00 handout though.

        Tolstrup

        March 22, 2020 at 5:15 pm

  152. wtf did this come from?

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-style-jobseekers-allowance

    https://www.understandinguniversalcredit.gov.uk/coronavirus/

    why are jsa claimants not getting the £1000 it is discrimination !

    Changes to how much you’ll get

    From 6 April the government is increasing the standard allowance in Universal Credit and the basic element in Working Tax Credit for one year. Both will increase by £20 per week on top of planned annual uprating. This will apply to all new and existing Universal Credit claimants and to existing Working Tax Credit claimants.

    This means that for a single Universal Credit claimant (aged 25 or over), the standard allowance will increase from £317.82 to £409.89 per month.

    superted

    March 22, 2020 at 4:59 pm

    • @ superted

      “New Style JSA” ????? WTF? When did that go through Parliament? They’re making it up as they go along.
      Wouldn’t it just be easier and cheaper to scrap the whole bloody lot and simply introduce Basic Income? It’s a bloody shambles.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 5:27 pm

      • no idea it was updated on 14 feb why? did they know this was going to happen lol.

        any new claims were uc or nothing same with a change in circumstances.

        now you can make a jsa claim if you have been in work 2 years.

        so much for scrapping jsa it is now active again.

        but if you make a claim for that then you wont get the extra £1000 why? when you have been paying in to the system is taking the fucking piss!

        superted

        March 22, 2020 at 5:39 pm

      • @ superted

        So now we’ve got old style JSA (that they don’t want to mention), “New Style JSA”, AND Universal Credit. I thought they were supposed to be simplifying the Benefits system.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      • Never mind JSA, trev. Ammo – you’ll need lots of ammo, a flash-light and night-vision goggles. JSA ain’t no good when you are bugging out in the woods.

        Redneck

        March 22, 2020 at 6:20 pm

      • New style JSA is effectively contribution based Universal Credit Trev. It was introduced at the same time as UC. UC is an income based benefit only. Similarly, New style ESA replaces contribution based ESA. When a claimant’s entitlement to those run out, they move to UC.

        KJ

        March 23, 2020 at 3:08 am

      • New style JSA only lasts for six months anyway and then it’s off to Universal Credit… AND ANOTHER £1000!

        Kerching!

        Scrounger

        March 23, 2020 at 7:01 am

  153. So they are just going to leave old-style JSA claimants without the increase ? That is totally out of order !

    Nathan

    March 22, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    • @ Nathan

      They’re leaving people on old JSA to rot.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      • if you think about it they just made every one on jsa ect a £1000 worse off!

        superted

        March 22, 2020 at 7:37 pm

  154. Why the fuss about self-isolation to avoid exponential growth in the Covid-19 epidemic. Answer: Because if every person infects two people every day after 64 days 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 people will have been infected and millions them will be dead. It’s basically identical to the wheat and chessboard problem only instead of grains of wheat it’s Covid-19 infected individuals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem

    Kenzie

    March 22, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    • This is mathematics though. Most people skipped maths at school. How many people know about exponential growth /Inverse exponential growth (the Ex/In button on your calculator)? Same with logarithms etc, Or sine, cosine, tangents. Maths is everything. Maths is beautiful. It unpins everything. If it wasn’t for maths you wouldn’t have a stupid smartphone. Our utter stupidity will be the death of us.

      John Nash

      March 22, 2020 at 7:29 pm

      • Sensible words from the Nobel prizewinning schizophrenic bisexual mathematician who invented Nash equilibrium. I agree. But at least you had a biography written about you and a film made based on that account. Only mathematicians and physicists remember me which really pisses me off.

        Bernhard Riemann

        March 23, 2020 at 6:43 am

      • If it moves it’s biology, if it stinks it’s chemistry, if it doesn’t work it’s physics 😀

        Teacher's Pet

        March 23, 2020 at 7:42 am

    • **It underpins everything

      John Nash

      March 22, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    • There are only about 7.8 billion people on earth. Let’s call it 8 billion = 8,000,000,000 which is 23 times smaller than the largest figure above. In fact every person currently on the planet would be infected in LESS than 27 days if everybody kept infecting two or more uninfected people as is the case now. Keep your eyes peeled and watch the number of the infected soar in the coming days. It was good to be alive though wasn’t it? It’s been quite a ride. I look forward to seeing you again in the next life. Good night and good luck.

      Pollard

      March 23, 2020 at 6:57 am

      • Adieu, my friend, Adieu.

        Touching Cloth

        March 23, 2020 at 8:30 am

  155. Seeing as we’re not going to the job centre for at least 3 months they won’t be able to send us to any providers, so I’m hoping that those parasites go bust.

    Violet

    March 22, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    • Many of them already are on the verge of going bust, since the end of the Work Programme and the collapse of the short-lived Community Work Programme, Interserve have made redundancies and closed offices, and Standguide have closed some offices, the final nail in the coffin was/is Brexit and the end of the EU Social Fund.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 7:27 pm

      • Even if the povo’s do bite the dust, what’s the betting that the DWP find something equally or more nasty to unleash on us dole scum!

        Tigerlily

        March 22, 2020 at 7:39 pm

      • I don’t think there will be any more Schemes in the pipeline for the time being as they cost money and are proved to be ineffective in getting people into work. Besides, they don’t need to as Universal Credit is the ultimate punishment and means of control – seven days a week of unending jobsearch or a Sanction, Hardship as a repayable loan, part time jobs no longer optional and anything earned deducted from Benefits. They’ve got it covered, stitched up, dotted every ‘i’ and crossed every ‘t’. UC is a virtual prison from which there is no escape, unless you don’t mind sleeping on the streets and begging for a living.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 8:00 pm

  156. Tax the rich to fund ‘Universal Basic Income’

    https://welfareweekly.com/tax-the-rich-to-fund-universal-basic-income/

    trev

    March 22, 2020 at 8:21 pm

  157. five years dole scum have been waiting for an increase and what we got was not worth talking about.

    they hate the remaining jsa claimants because we don’t bow down to the work coach, we know the providers only use us and we know to question everything and if it’s not mandatory they can sod off.

    big bird

    March 22, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    • if i am put on uc the only difference will be the name, if no one will employ you then what is the point of a work coach they are useless same as the providers.

      i dont even have a work coach so say and they have not bothered to look at my work search for about 2 months.

      im not going to bother to sign on as will save me 5 quid and if it is not paid then ill hit them with this and get my bonus in the end 😉

      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/compensation-for-poor-service-a-guide-for-dwp-staff

      .

      superted

      March 22, 2020 at 9:16 pm

      • @superted: Yeah but mate if you don’t have any jobsearch done then what ? It’s going to like going in to the jobcentre naked. And suppose they start playing silly buggers about how you could have gone in and searched in the JC itself ? Even though they’ve closed these. And people are not supposed to attend.

        John H.

        March 23, 2020 at 2:22 pm

      • just do the best you can in the past when i have been on extended sick leave i still had to job search and when they phoned every 2 weeks was only asked if i was looking and said yes.

        they did not bother to look at my job search when i went back i might as well have not botherd

        superted

        March 23, 2020 at 2:46 pm

  158. If those bastards think I’m going to sit back and be £1000 pounds worse off they can forget it !!

    JSA Jobseeker

    March 22, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    • Too right ! Equal pay for equal unemployment. #JSAJustice

      James Jobseeker

      March 22, 2020 at 8:46 pm

  159. Coronavirus: McDonald’s to close all UK restaurants
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51999604

    superted

    March 22, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    • They’ve tape across all the tables and seats in there,The GP surgery removed all the seats because of cross infection they said.Shops are giving staff gloves but their nearly empty.

      As for the internet the last week its been hardly loading on a weekday and jobsearch very late at night was possible here on bt.I wouldn’t use that journal anyway.

      ken

      March 23, 2020 at 1:34 am

  160. Library Alert !!
    My local library has posted a closure notice. All branches in the county closed until further notice, to protect staff. Only 2 hrs a day at a couple of smaller branches. No staff available, no internet or printing. Only borrowing books / DVDs from the self-service machines. At your own risk.
    So now what for the jobsearch of JSA claimants who don’t have internet access ?

    Jeff Smith

    March 22, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    • All the libraries in my area have closed too, as of yesterday, but no mention of it in the local rag.

      trev

      March 22, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    • what about uc claimants that now can not access there journal as no access to the internet and wont get any updates until they can log in even for the next appointment 3 months later.?

      same with job search if you have no way to apply for jobs then it is not your fault why the hole system is not fit for purpose.

      it is going to crash and burn at this rate the jcp staff will not cope with all the new claims why we all have 3 months off. 😉

      superted

      March 22, 2020 at 11:09 pm

      • Will peoples claims be closed if they don’t access their journals? The system is going to collapse and we are being kept in the dark by this inept shambles of a Government. Neither Boris Johnson nor the DWP have made clear official statements regarding jobsearch requirements and sanctions during this crisis. We haven’t even officially been told not to sign on yet, well I haven’t anyway. My next signing appointment is on 31st March and I have no idea at this point in time whether I am still required to attend, or if I am still required to do jobsearch. It’s a fucking joke. Now is the perfect time to scrap JSA, Universal Credit and Sanctions, and introduce a Universal Basic Income instead, it’s the only viable option, fuck what IDS thinks.

        trev

        March 22, 2020 at 11:30 pm

  161. It’s completely ridiculous. They haven’t thought this through at all. Claimants who have no internet at home, now have a significant problem. How are they going to do their jobsearch ? And equally, how are they going to be able to show evidence of their job applications ? This will apply both to Universal Credit and JSA claimants. The UC claimants won’t be access their journals, and the JSA claimants won’t be able to use Find A Job , or get printed evidence either.
    They have closed all the cafes etc. where you might have had access to the internet. So WTF ?
    We just all turn up in 3 months with no evidence of jobsearch whatever, and the Work Coaches just smile and say don’t worry about it ?
    I’m getting that sanction feeling…

    Jeff Smith

    March 22, 2020 at 11:50 pm

  162. All the libraries in Cornwall shut today until further notice.

    Ro

    March 23, 2020 at 6:46 am

  163. Why you can’t trust Sky News

    Boris Johnson is attempting to race sweeping new laws on coronavirus through the Commons in a day, as the UK faces the prospect of a total lockdown in the next 24 hours.

    MPs are returning to the Commons after the weekend to debate the government’s Coronavirus Bill in all its stages, before it goes to the House of Lords and becomes law by the end of this week.

    The Commons debate follows a stark warning from the prime minister that the UK is heading towards a lockdown, after appeals to the public to stay indoors were largely ignored during a sunny Mother’s Day.

    Sky Snooze

    March 23, 2020 at 7:35 am

  164. The DWP need to make a clear public statement about what is expected of claimants during this emergency.

    1. Are jobsearch requirements being suspended or reduced for the next 3 months, or not ?

    2. What is the advice for Jobseekers without internet access of any kind ?

    Alan Turner

    March 23, 2020 at 10:55 am

    • Absolutely Alan, it’s a shambles, we’ve been told nothing. I have a signing appointment on 31st March, no idea if I still have to attend or if jobcentre is open, no idea if jobsearch is still required, if sanctions relating to jobsearch have been lifted, unable to do jobsearch at library now, no broadband at home, just got my phone and the monthly data is probably about to run out this week.

      trev

      March 23, 2020 at 11:11 am

      • @trev. They just couldn’t care less mate. The DWP are leaving people hanging on like this. Not knowing if there is going to be trouble later on. You can’t even go in to the Jobcentre to look at the internet.

        Pete

        March 23, 2020 at 12:06 pm

  165. Omnitex Surgical Face Masks With Earloop 3 Ply (CE Marked), Pack of 100

    “Currently unavailable
    We don’t know when or if this item will be back in stock.”

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Omnitex-Surgical-Masks-Earloop-Marked/dp/B005430K8U

    trev

    March 23, 2020 at 11:44 am

  166. 👿 You can run. But you can’t hide. We will find you. And we will KILL you!! 👿

    The Corona Virii

    March 23, 2020 at 12:20 pm

  167. If you think that the coronavirus pandemic is bad for both people and the world economy just wait until man-made unstoppable global warming lays waste to the earth. That’ll put the cat among the pigeons… although apex predators like the big cats will be the first to go… followed by the great apes, our nearest primate relatives… followed by us. We ourselves, homo sapiens, are an endangered species ourselves. And we, unlike all the other animals, are the architects of our own doom.

    Greta T.

    March 23, 2020 at 1:22 pm

  168. Seeing people of all ages out and about yesterday, on Mother’s Day, interacting rather than self-isolating made me wonder if they didn’t deserve what’s coming. Surely it would be good for the race to prevent daft fuckers like that from passing their dumb genes on to future generations by weeding them out now rather than later?

    Toby Young

    March 23, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    • Right on, Toby! Sterilisation and euthanasia should also be practised by the state to prevent the rise of an underclass.

      Professor David Marsland

      March 23, 2020 at 1:29 pm

  169. Equal Pay For JSA !

    James Jobseeker

    March 23, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    • JSA ain’t pay, brother, it’s money for nothing and pay is something that you receive for doing productive work.

      Teddy Bare

      March 23, 2020 at 5:00 pm

      • @ Teddy Bare

        Money for nothing? Ok, but isn’t it money in lieu of the Common land that was seized by the Establishment when our ancestors were evicted and a nation of landless peasants was created? Isn’t it money in recognition of all the hard graft put in by previous generations of our ancestors who worked all their lives for a pittance, upon whose blood, sweat & tears this country became rich? State Benefits aren’t a gift, or an handout, they are a Right.

        trev

        March 23, 2020 at 5:23 pm

      • Dictionary definition of the word “pay”:

        1. give (someone) money that is due for work done, goods received, or a debt incurred.

        JSA isn’t pay but a social security benefit that qualifying citizens are given, gratis, by the state to enable them to support themselves for many reasons, e.g., disability, sickness, pregnancy, old age or for the able-bodied unemployed UNTIL THEY FIND WORK. Now get on your bike you slackers and go find yourselves a job or, if you want to work part-time, get on your unicycle and do likewise!

        Pinky

        March 23, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      • @ Pinky

        Nowadays one job isn’t enough, you’re expected to ride the unicycle with a brush up your arse so you can sweep up as you go along.

        trev

        March 23, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    • @james jobseeker: You tell it James ! Unemployed is unemployed. One rate for all !!

      Zac

      March 23, 2020 at 6:58 pm

  170. DWP faces call to end Universal Credit sanctions and deductions during coronavirus

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/universal-credit-sanctions-deductions-coronavirus-17965073

    superted

    March 23, 2020 at 3:13 pm

  171. Update from the world of work and it isn’t good. I know a lot of our parents have poor English but today some of the kids parents were trying to unload on us had been sent home last week to self isolate! Another woman turned up whose hubby was a delivery driver. She however was at home but still tried to unload her kid. She was sent packing. A few parents turned up at lunch to collect sandwich bags for their free school meals kids.
    The deep cleaning we were expecting to do has been cancelled as pepole are still coming in and out of school. A rota has been set up, those with 1 contract are in once a week for 2 and half hours those with 2 like me are in 2ce a week for 2 n half hours each time. We will however be paid thank God. I’ll keep you updatef

    katrehman

    March 23, 2020 at 4:32 pm

  172. There’s a lockdown on the way… I can feel it in my water… bladder full to bursting…

    Jailer

    March 23, 2020 at 4:58 pm

  173. When you sign on they are putting through the ‘evidence’ for the past fortnight. If they ‘raise a doubt’ they will enquire about ‘evidence’ in the previous fortnight too when that has already ‘gone through’. But it is the fortnight before your next appointment that is really important, the jobcentre will assume that jobseekers will have given up job-searching by then. It is still advisable to keep doing a token ‘job-search’ at least to cover you butt – don’t leave it naked.

    Naked Attraction

    March 23, 2020 at 5:21 pm

  174. No mention of Jobcentres in the Prime Minister’s address to the nation. Do I still have to sign on next Tuesday? None the wiser. Am I still required to do jobsearch to continue receiving my JSA? None the wiser. Will Pay Point shops or Post Offices still be open so I can pay my Water and Council Tax? No idea. Will laundrettes be closed? How do I do my laundry, in the local river?

    trev

    March 23, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    • You would be best advised to keep your prepayment meters topped up as much as you can afford. Not running running to the paypoint every day to top-up with a £1 before your lights go out. That is just stupid in the current situation. Everything seems to be closing down. You can’t even get your hair cut any more. Hair clippers will be going through the roof on Amazon and ebay if they aren’t already.

      Iliod

      March 23, 2020 at 10:52 pm

      • @ Iliod

        I don’t have that type of prepayment meter, I have a coin meter for electricity that takes the OLD pound coins! I have to contact the landlady and she comes round and empties the meter and I buy the coins back off her. Effectively she’s using the old pound coins as tokens as it was cheaper than upgrading the meter. I don’t have Gas. I only need the corner shop newsagents for paying my monthly Council Tax installments and fortnightly Water payments. Apparently newsagents will still be open. Don’t think Laundrettes are though, so won’t be able to wash my clothes properly unless I just wash stuff in the shower, but won’t be able to wash bedding. But I suppose I’ll manage. Some clear advice about JSA and Jobcentres would be welcome however.

        trev

        March 23, 2020 at 11:05 pm

      • Yeah maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, had to look out the hair clippers today. No where open for a cut. It’s a gas maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

        The Hippy Family

        March 23, 2020 at 11:17 pm

  175. No mention either of the massive cuts to the NHS, made by the Tories over the last 10 years, which put us in this position. Where we ended up with the lowest number of Intensive Care hospital beds in Europe. Massive under-staffing in terms of doctors and nurses. A huge shortage of proper protective gear for NHS staff. Once again the result of these brutal economies. Itself an ongoing scandal, which has been furiously denied, then reluctantly admitted. With the government frantically trying to provide better equipment. Too little, too late.
    Not to mention the now abandoned attempt, at so-called ‘herd immunity.’ Which we persisted with, even while scientists from every other country in Europe, were begging us to stop. And take some proper protective action.
    If only that false slogan about spending 350 Million a week on the NHS had been true.

    Jeff Smith

    March 23, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    • ‘Herd immunity’ was a crazy idea. Assuming this Covid-19 is even real it is now apparent that this is a severe respiratory illness; basically a pneumonia-type illness that if it gets a grip will kills you in the most horrendous, protracted way possible. What makes it even deadlier than common or garden viriii that it appears to be able to trick your immune system into overreacting and killing you. There is no cure. A ventilator will only provide palliative care whilst your drown and your lungs burst. A gruesome fate, and ghastly death to be avoided at all costs.

      Boffy

      March 23, 2020 at 11:11 pm

  176. So people are allowed to go to work if “essential”. A bit vague. What about people doing voluntary work at a foodbank?

    trev

    March 23, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    • People have to go to work,yeterday no bus arrived theres normally three an hour and a woman stormed off saying i’m going to be late for work,I think she works at Boots.the local scrap yard has grabber ams visable and just as busy a local warehouse has its doors open.Many people are still at work and a bus company locally has increased the buses back on one route back to normal levels and jobs are still being advertised.

      https://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/people/arriva-bus-changes-take-place-week-2522215

      I think the best thing to do is get on with life and put up with this virus risk,its to easy to get sucked into these statements when life for many people isn’t like including the unemployed.Life does go on,these measures are just the high street and the supermarkets and even Boris caught this.

      https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/warehouse-workers-health-coronavirus/

      ken

      April 1, 2020 at 4:28 am

  177. Tesco cash only this evening “ran out of change” 😉 Had to use damned debit card. Grr. Still money in the cash machines though. Cashless society here we come?

    Sally Shopper

    March 23, 2020 at 10:40 pm

  178. Oops! Tesco debit card only this evening.

    Sally Shopper

    March 23, 2020 at 10:42 pm

  179. I had to make a withdrawal from the cash machines just to make sure that there was something in them. If they had been empty… well.. you wouldn’t need to be David Icke to see a conspiracy theory.

    Sally Shopper

    March 23, 2020 at 10:44 pm

  180. they will say cash is dirty to introduce cashless society. even though most of the shops are dirty.

    big bird

    March 23, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    • A lot of people were queuing outside banks this morning.

      ken

      March 23, 2020 at 11:21 pm

      • What for? Do they think the banks are going to ‘go down’? But if they are getting cash out then it may be no use if the shops switch to debit card only. There is a report of Tesco doing this evening. Best to keep your ear to the ground, ken, you have to try and stay ahead of the game.

        Val

        March 23, 2020 at 11:44 pm

  181. would it be so hard for jobcentre s to send jsa claiments a letter, I’m still going jobcentre Thursday I haven’t been told not to and they can have a work coach tell mee whats going on as I wwon’t take the word of the helpers at the door.

    big bird

    March 23, 2020 at 11:03 pm

  182. MARTIAL LAW

    Donald TRUMP has mentioned he would like to stay in power and Boris JOHNSON has said he would like to curtail the power of parliament.

    Both would love to invoke Martial Law using the CORONAVIRUS threat as a pretext to gain absolute control.

    Anyone considered a threat would be immediately arrested and locked in a guarded military stockade.

    Persons deemed of foreign extraction would be deported………..

    Public demonstrations would not happen as public gatherings would become illegal.

    Rationing would be introduced………

    News would be propaganda only……………….

    Internet activity and social media banned……..

    Travel limited completely………

    Could a NEW WORLD ORDER really come about after a deadly pathogen was released into the atmosphere?

    Marcos managed to stay in power in the Philippines for 17 years after using this cheap trick.

    Julie Hutchison

    March 23, 2020 at 11:39 pm

  183. Breaking…

    Boris Johnson has announced new UK lockdown measures to stem the spread of coronavirus – with police stepping in to deal with those breaking the rules.

    Corana Virus News Update Premium Subscription Service

    March 24, 2020 at 12:01 am

  184. Breaking…

    UK Lockdown

    Mr Johnson said police will act to stop any gatherings larger than two (not including members of the same household) by handing out fines and dispersing gatherings.

    Shops that don’t sell food or other essential items will close. This includes cloithes shops and those selling electrical items.

    Corana Virus News Update Premium Subscription Service

    March 24, 2020 at 12:04 am

    • Still no mention of whether jsa claimants still have to sign on or not.

      joe jobseeker

      March 24, 2020 at 12:12 am

  185. UK lockdown but borders still wide open. You couldn’t make it you.

    Police State UK

    March 24, 2020 at 12:22 am

    • If the Governments had bothered themselves to put stringent checks in place at airports a few months ago, we might not be in this situation right now.
      It’s almost as if they were just waiting for it to come to their own countries. Itching for it to make its way. I am suspicious of these extreme measures.
      Take precautions, yes, but to take it this far…. I’m not so sure.

      Keane

      March 24, 2020 at 2:52 am

  186. London is the epicentre of coronavirus in the UK, yet tomorrow, umpteen flights are leaving the capital’s airports for other cities in the UK, including almost 30 to Ipswich. These flights must be stopped immediately.

    East Anglia

    March 24, 2020 at 3:02 am

  187. So with Jobcentres closed, libraries closed, non-essential shops closed and having been told only to go out for medical reasons or to shop for essentials like food and drink, or for exercise alone or with members of your family, or to work preferably on foot or by car and not by public transport, HOW THE HELL CAN ANY OF US HONOUR OUR “ACTIVELY SEEKING WORK” OBLIGATION? And how could any of us possibly be sanctioned for not doing so? While the Covid-19 epidemic rages every Claimant Commitment is rendered null and void because of self-isolating strictures placed on people by the government which are now enforceable by the police? In which case: Why not announce that sanctioning of claimants for doing inadequate jobsearch during the epidemic has been suspended and put people’s minds at rest.

    If the Jobcentre waives its obligation to claimants surely the demands that the Jobcentre places claimants should also be dispensed with for the duration of the coronavirus panic until normality returns to society?

    Ro

    March 24, 2020 at 6:46 am

    • @Ro – Trouble is you know how sneaky they are. No-one has actually said that the JSA claimants can stand down their jobsearch. People are just assuming they can.

      Garry

      March 24, 2020 at 12:42 pm

      • @ Garry

        That’s why we need clarity. They should make an announcement and also write to every claimant individually spelling out the situation regarding signing on, jobsearch requirements, and Sanctions, so we know where we stand. What’s Therese Coffey doing, sitting on her fat arse?

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm

      • Everybody knows that no one can possibly be able to do a proper jobsearch during a global pandemic. Isn’t it about time that the DWP owned this truth and admitted it to the country? Not to do so and try to make people do the impossible is mean and sly behaviour. And does anybody really think that the DWP would like articles appearing in the papers about people being sanctioned because they failed to complete 35 hours of jobsearch when most businesses are closed, movement restricted, and the country locked down by order of the government? Of course not.

        Ro

        March 24, 2020 at 1:39 pm

  188. The jokecentre (big clue in the name 😉 ) will just come out with stupid shit like “It is not like shop windows are locked down. Plenty of hidden vacancies out there. Couldn’t you have sneaked out under cover of darkness to avoid the army/police? Sniper fire is easy to avoid. Everyone in this office has had to avoid sniper fire. A bullet or two is not going to do you any harm. Anyway, a bullet up the backside would build momentum in your job search. This is going to a decision maker.”

    nev

    March 24, 2020 at 8:45 am

  189. David Icke must think all his Christmases have come at once 😀

    Jacqui

    March 24, 2020 at 8:47 am

  190. Strictly speaking I will be breaking the law this afternoon when I leave the house and walk 5 minutes to work. As a school cleaner. Cleaners aren’t on the list of key jobs even though no company school or business could function without us! Just as well I have no respect for society lol….. Though that doesn’t mean I’m going to flout the rules. My life won’t b much different. .all I do is go to work rhe shops and the doctors. Not as if I can afford outings lol….

    katrehman

    March 24, 2020 at 11:03 am

  191. want to let everyone know about a new tactic they just started yesterday. They’re going to be testing millions of people daily who have no symptoms, they’re going to be doing this in every country, and they are going to “find” a high rate of “infection” and all of these people will be placed in quarantine. They already started this tactic in the US. Remember, they have already psychologically spiked everyone to believe this nonsense with all of their fear porn about people being infected for 2 weeks and spreading it to other people before symptoms begin. They’re going to ramp up the daily testing of non-symptom people until they test the entire population with these fake tests. They want us all sitting in our homes, afraid to go out, so they can go door to door administering these tests, and they’re going to be mandatory.

    David Icke is going to be on Jimmy Church tomorrow night. I’m tuning in to see what he has to say about this scam. It’s really scary that the people who listen to Jimmy Church, which is a show about conspiracy, so many of them have fallen for this fraud and believe what the news media is spewing out. The number of people who actually get what’s going on is very small this time. Everyone else is being made complete fools.

    funister

    March 24, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    • @ funister

      *Rolls eyes*

      It’s a Global Pandemic not a Global Conspiracy you plonker. David Icke is a fearmongering crank.

      trev

      March 24, 2020 at 1:02 pm

      • Violet

        March 24, 2020 at 4:30 pm

      • Well if it results in a transformation of the economic system then that’s a good thing isn’t it? It may lead to a redistribution of wealth, and a fairer more equal world, along with a greater awareness of environmental and ecological concerns. It doesn’t mean we’re all going to be killed or incarcerated in concentration camps.

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 4:41 pm

      • @trev, I see David Icke is trying to portray the coronavirus as some sort of secret conspiracy to turn the whole world into a Chinese-style surveillance state. Is it not more likely that it is just a virus that escaped from the livestock market in Wuhan. And that may have originally originated in a nearby laboratory ? Rather than an attempt by a secret network to achieve world domination ?

        James Moreton

        March 24, 2020 at 7:07 pm

  192. Good to know that Wetherspoons are looking after their staff at this difficult time.

    John H.

    March 24, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    • @John H – Thanks Boss, I’m off to Tesco ! Don’t worry about my wages.

      Spooner

      March 24, 2020 at 5:59 pm

  193. be careful everyone, police are patrolling the back streets of London.

    they just drove up to a pensioner minding her own business going for a walk and they have put her in the back of there car. God knows where they are taking her.

    bid bird

    March 24, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    • you’re ‘aving a laff like mate, innit?

      londoner

      March 24, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      • Lawd above! N’er mind. If the Peelers are abroad the rookeries and alleys Spring Heeled Jack can’t get up to no mischief and me chances ov purchasin’ da favaaahrs ov a nice little brass are be’er, iinnit?

        Bow Belles

        March 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm

  194. The second-rate treatment of Jobseeker’s Allowance is a deliberate snub by the DWP. Targeted against the new ‘enemy within’. Reluctant JSA claimants, who can’t or won’t transfer voluntarily to Universal Credit.
    Who won’t play the game, and buy in to the wonder of zero-hours work, and the 35 Hour Jobsearch.

    Jeff Smith

    March 24, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    • And how many people have died over the last 10 years as a result of the Welfare reforms, 10,000? 50,000? 100,000? They didn’t convene a COBRA meeting about that did they? They denied it and laughed. And now even a global pandemic is insufficient grounds to pause the Class War.

      trev

      March 24, 2020 at 2:28 pm

  195. I contacted the Government via Gov Digital Service and specifically asked about the situation relating to Jobcentres and JSA during this health crisis. I said that all info so far was about Universal Credit but nothing about JSA. I asked about jobsearch requirements, sanctions, and signing appointments. I asked if payments would be made automatically without need for a signature. This is the reply I got:

    Thank you for contacting GOV.UK.

    Current guidance on coronavirus and claiming benefits:

    https://www.understandinguniversalcredit.gov.uk/coronavirus/

    The service is managed by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) so you’ll need to contact your local Jobcentre Plus with any further questions you have:

    http://los.direct.gov.uk

    Other contact details for Jobcentre Plus are listed on this page:

    https://www.gov.uk/contact-jobcentre-plus

    If you’re unable to phone, contact a voluntary organisation (e.g. Citizens Advice) in your area or get a friend or family member to call on your behalf:

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/

    Regards,

    Ola A
    GDS User Support Lead
    Government Digital Service (GDS)
    GOV.UK |GOV.UK Verify

    Completely fobbed off yet again. They totally ignored my questions. It’s like getting blood out of a stone.

    trev

    March 24, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    • well went past the jcp and it was closed with a notice on all the windows.

      superted

      March 24, 2020 at 3:56 pm

      • I take it from that the Jobcentres are closed then? Nice of them to tell us. What happens now? How long are they closed for? Will JSA be paid automatically without need for a signature? Are we still expected to do jobsearch in the meantime? If so, how? Have Sanctions been suspended? Why no info available? Why no letters sent out?

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 4:11 pm

      • I imagine that the DWP hopes that people will be so scared of sanctions that they will keep a few applications going anyway. Just to be on the safe side, A good idea if you can do it. But what about all the many people without internet access ? How are they going to jobsearch ? And also how are they going to have anything in writing to prove it ?

        Susan

        March 24, 2020 at 4:20 pm

      • Those smart-arsed, snivelling worms of DWP stupidity. Those utter, filthy, vile, cretinous wretches that crawl through the dark passages of that labyrinth of misery, Caxton House. Keeping to the shadows to hide their guilty faces in the darkness. A miserable race of mutant acolytes, worshipping their perverted benefit system, and driven by cruelty and spite.

        Caleb

        March 24, 2020 at 4:38 pm

      • Caleb. Don’t beat around the bush, mate, just say what you really mean.

        Plain Englishman

        March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • @trev – As @Jeff Smith says above, it’s quite deliberate, and this proves it. I agree with Jeff, JSA and other legacy claimants are not popular with the DWP. There is a sense of some claimants being stubborn about Universal Credit. The DWP would like to just drag everyone straight onto UC, but they simply can’t. They don’t have the administrative or system capacity. And the mass applications now for UC from the coronovirus crisis, will push the possible date for mandatory migration of the remaining legacy claimants, even further into the future.

      Alan Turner

      March 24, 2020 at 4:14 pm

      • It’s a gross dereliction of duty by the Government and the DWP that no announcements have been made and no information made available specific to existing JSA claims. They have made it perfectly clear that JSA claimants are of no importance to them and are the shit beneath their feet. A typical shabby Tory trick.

        trev

        March 24, 2020 at 4:30 pm

  196. @superted
    what did the jobcentre window say?

    big bird

    March 24, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    • dont know only went past in the car but it is not open

      superted

      March 24, 2020 at 5:13 pm

    • Can confirm, drove past local jobcentre late on Sunday evening and it was closed.

      Range Rover

      March 24, 2020 at 5:35 pm

  197. Can you confirm it was closed on Saturday night?

    billyboyne

    March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • Think so. Was taking some friends to the airport on Saturday evening. Heading out on a late winter/early spring skiing holiday in the Italian Alps. Lucky them! The Jobcentre looked more creepy and sinister than usual, if that is even possible. Silent, grim and eerie expect for a dim light on in one of the upper floor windows if that is any use to you.

      Range Rover

      March 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm

      • Thanks for the confirmation. Good luck on your Italian skiing trip. If you happen to see M. Salvini tell him to keep up the good work against those pesky globalists.

        billyboyne

        March 24, 2020 at 7:04 pm

  198. TV Licencing ‘enforcers’ sent out despite coronavirus outbreak

    TVL ‘enforcers’ have been banging on doors with increasing frequency despite the coronavirus ‘lock down’

    Sybil

    March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

  199. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covid_19_21#incoming-1551223
    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    Please disclose the information, guidance and policy provided to your Jobcentre staff, including Work Coaches, with regards claimants, new and existing UC + JSA (new style) + ESA (new style) claims , conditionality, work related activity and benefit sanctions related to Covid 19/Coronavirus from the period January 1st 2020 to date.

    Yours faithfully,

    Frank Zola

    superted

    March 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • @superted , He only asks about New Style JSA ? What about all the ‘old style’ legacy JSA ?

      Rob

      March 24, 2020 at 8:56 pm

      • it is the same thing only you have had to been employed for 2 years to claim it, it really does not make any sense as new claims for any jsa has been closed for years now and now it is back all of a sudden i guess it is there back up system as uc is going to crash and burn at this rate as it dont work and they dont have the staff numbers to cope with it atm its a fkn joke tbh.

        but if you do claim this you will only get £73.10 a week but if you claim uc you will get £93.10 per week for 1 year.

        superted

        March 24, 2020 at 9:06 pm

      • @Rob – New Style JSA is still different, from old-style JSA. Basically it’s a short-run 6 month claim based on contributions. The conditions are stricter than old-style JSA, and you have to do zero-hour or part-time work. But there is no 35 Hour jobsearch. That remains only for Universal Credit.So you are correct. The question would have been better put to include old-style JSA specifically.

        Simon

        March 25, 2020 at 2:49 pm

  200. This is on rightsnet “Public access to jobcentres to be restricted, with 10,000 staff moved to focus on processing new claims”

    billyboyne

    March 24, 2020 at 5:45 pm

  201. Found this hidden on a social landlords site: Coronavirus. Will my benefits be affected? Mandatory work search and work availability requirements will no longer apply.

    Stener

    March 24, 2020 at 5:54 pm

  202. Then it gives a link the gov site that says this: “claimants who are staying at home as a result of coronavirus will have their mandatory work search and work availability requirements removed to account for a period of sickness”

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-support-for-employees-benefit-claimants-and-businesses

    Stener

    March 24, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    • @stener: Yes but this is just for people who are already diagnosed with Coronavirus. And who have notified the DWP of their infection. And will have documentation to prove this. People who have been personally affected by the virus. In these cases the DWP will make an individual arrangement with claimants, to ‘remove the worksearch and work availability requirements.’
      This doesn’t cover the case of a healthy claimant who is not infected, but is just staying indoors on government instructions. They are not suffering from the effects of the virus, and have not arranged any official reduction in their worksearch or availability. So what do they do ?

      Alan Turner

      March 24, 2020 at 6:56 pm

      • tbh i am still getting plenty of jobs coming in to apply for via email but some dont have this option so are screwed if they no internet at home.

        normally when you are on extended sick leave you are still required to job search, which is also totally pointless but there you go.

        work coaches can turn off the job search part of the cc and is done on a case by case circumstances
        imo they will all be told to do just that for the next 3 months but i am still going to carry on with mine even tho it is now totally pointless as dont even look at it anymore.

        superted

        March 24, 2020 at 7:22 pm

      • @superted

        Same here. I’m still going through the motions with my job search. Like you say: totally pointless but I bet once this is all over, they’ll be some jumped up little roach who’ll demand to see what you’ve been doing during all this. You know the type. Eighty years ago, they’d of been making sure the cattle trucks to Auschwitz were running on time.

        jj joop

        March 25, 2020 at 7:12 am

  203. Coronavirus: ‘How is £94 a week going to pay anyone’s bills?’

    “Without the mortgage, my essential bills come to £948 a month,” she said. “£94.25 a week [the Universal Credit payment] – how is that going to pay anybody’s bills?”

    i get £73.10 per week same as every one else and still have to pay the bills and you want even more pmsl.

    superted

    March 24, 2020 at 8:54 pm

  204. Legacy JSA, No Claiming Without Equal Pay ! #EqualPayJSA

    Darren

    March 24, 2020 at 8:58 pm

  205. I’m going up to the Jobcentre and when will we be back? Theres been no post and the local co-op is out of food and now their talking about cabin fever.Its like the world has ended.

    ken

    March 24, 2020 at 11:53 pm

  206. Coronavirus: The newly jobless struggle to claim benefits

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52028644

    and just heard on the news it is up to 500000 making new claims dwp in chaos pmsl

    superted

    March 25, 2020 at 11:59 am

  207. Still no mention of JSA, no specific information or instructions for existing JSA claimants:

    https://welfareweekly.com/benefit-assessments-suspended-for-three-months-while-new-claimants-told-to-stay-away-from-jobcentres/

    trev

    March 25, 2020 at 12:06 pm

  208. Does anyone know what if any rights a a Roumanian agency worker who works sorting recycling and has been in the country just 6 months has if laid off? Can he claim anything at all? Thanks if u can help x

    katrehman

    March 25, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    • I don’t know about that Kat, I suspect his Rights would be few but I would direct him to the CAB, they’ll be able to advise and in the meantime will refer him to the foodbank.

      trev

      March 25, 2020 at 2:00 pm

  209. well bj just said on pmq that 4 million will get 1000 more per year but there are just over 2m on uc atm and 250k on jsa ect.

    has any been paid there jsa and got the extra 20 per week?

    superted

    March 25, 2020 at 12:42 pm

  210. Prince Charles tests positive for covid – 19.

    Experts indicated that Charles would be susceptible as his big ears would collect any airborne virus particles from 20 miles away.

    Violet

    March 25, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    • Hahaha of course it has… This is either to push the crow flu hoax onto the sheeple a bit more or hopefully the dirty paedo has been arrested along with its deep state cronies and is awaiting it’s fate!

      Tigerlily

      March 25, 2020 at 4:56 pm

      • @ Tigerlily

        I don’t think you have any grounds for calling HRH The Prince of Wales a “dirty paedo”, that is a serious allegation, one which is surely unwarranted. You will find out that the global pandemic is not a hoax when Millions die in the USA due to Trump’s gross incompetence.

        trev

        March 25, 2020 at 5:19 pm

  211. I haven’t been out of the house all week, staying indoors as instructed, but I just nipped out to the corner shop for a bottle of milk and it’s like a ghost town out there, pretty eerie, noticeably less traffic and the streets are deserted, and this is normally a busy bustling neighbourhood. But from watching daytime Freeview tv all week it seems there is a disproportionate amount of serial killers in Alaska, so make of that what you will.

    trev

    March 25, 2020 at 1:55 pm

    • You can still go out once a day but only for essential shopping for yourself or a vulnerable person who can’t go out, or for exercise like walking or a jog around the block, you don’t have to make yourself a prisoner trev.

      Violet

      March 25, 2020 at 3:10 pm

      • I’m saving myself for tomorrow and Friday when I’ll be working at the foodbank, which is exercise in itself, and is a two mile walk each way. During the week I normally walk to the library in town to do jobsearch but it’s closed now, and I go shopping, but at moment have little money left and don’t really need anything from the shops. So I’m sat on my arse watching daytime tv, drinking inordinate amounts of coffee and smoking roll-ups…what a life!

        trev

        March 25, 2020 at 3:28 pm

      • I went out to try to get a loaf of bread and was stopped by the police and got asked where I was going and why! I’ve never had my collar felt before but at least I wasn’t asked to produced identification, which is just as well as I had none on me. In fact I’ve got no photo ID at all! No passport and no photocard driving license!

        Chicky Davies

        March 25, 2020 at 4:34 pm

      • That is shocking. Did they ask you you’re name and address? Take details down so that they can add it to their database. Did they ask you when you were last out? When you last bought a loaf of bread? It is surprising that they aren’t searching the homes of suspected hoarders/panic buyers? And the supermarkets are trying to train us into going contactless. They are going to spin this coronahoax out as long as they can get away with.

        When is Coates going to put up a new post? COATES? Are you receiving? Or is this blog on lock down? These comment strewn pages are heavy to load. If no new pasta are added this page will turn into the ‘Simon Chapman’ page on Johnny Void with over 5,000 comments.

        Kriennny

        March 25, 2020 at 5:46 pm

      • @ Kriennny

        “They are going to spin this coronahoax out as long as they can get away with”

        Hoax? What kind of paranoid moron are you? It’s not a fucking hoax, people are dying worldwide. FFS lay off the weed!

        trev

        March 25, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    • Oh I forgot Trev… Charlie wanker likes taking it up the rear-end as well!

      Tigerlily

      March 25, 2020 at 5:56 pm

  212. The laundrettes are still open. What’s your excuse?

    billyboyne

    March 25, 2020 at 2:44 pm

  213. As expected, the DWP are now sinking under the sheer number of Universal Credit claims:

    ‘The Department for Work and Pensions said on Wednesday 477,000 people had applied for the benefit in the past nine days and they were redeploying thousands of civil servants to help process the claims.
    Thérèse Coffey MP, the work pensions secretary, said: “In the last nine days we’ve processed nearly half a million claims.’ – Guardian

    Unfortunately, this will show a large number of people the harsh reality of the benefit system.
    The difficulty of making an online application. The need for advance payments because of the 5 week wait.
    It’s one thing to vote for these things, it’s another thing to have to experience them.

    Jeff Smith

    March 25, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    • There’s never been a better time to scrap UC, JSA, and Working Tax Credits, and introduce an Unconditional Basic Income instead. It’ll be a miracle if the system can cope with this amount of pressure, it’s normally pretty dysfunctional as it is.

      trev

      March 25, 2020 at 3:15 pm

      • @trev – ‘SNP MP Chris Stephens pointed out that some of the new Universal Credit claimants were then facing huge online queues to verify their claims, with some told they were 111,000th in a queue.’

        111,000 in a queue ? Well I hope they have plenty of patience. And this is just to start the claim, never mind the verification, before they can even begin to apply for an advance .

        Pete

        March 25, 2020 at 3:53 pm

      • The system isn’t coping, trev, not by a long chalk. No way, no how. After what I went through to get UC during a “normal” period I pity the poor souls trying to get blood out of that stone during a viral epidemic.

        Jaswinder

        March 25, 2020 at 4:29 pm

  214. just got a phone call from my work coach, she sid my siging on appointment has been cancelled for the foreseeable future. I asked if it was for 12 weeks, the wc said don’t worry about it your money will go through as normal and you will be contacted for an appointment in due course. The work coach also said keep job searching.

    big bird

    March 25, 2020 at 3:47 pm

  215. Therese Coffey has said there are job opportunities in supermarkets and fruit-picking. So that’s all right then. Are cigar shops still open during this crisis ?

    Tom Sutton

    March 25, 2020 at 3:56 pm

  216. I just got an email from someone at my Jobcentre:

    “All appointments at the job centre are suspended until further notice.

    All benefits will be sent out automatically.

    If you have any change of circumstances please e mail us on XXXXXXX

    We will be in contact when we have more information.

    Take care of yourself and keep safe”

    trev

    March 25, 2020 at 4:13 pm

  217. So are all the new claimants for Universal Credit going to the Jobcentre for an interview while completing the application process. (I had two interviews.) And for the ones without an acceptable digital identity having to bring documents and such like to prove who they are? And will they all have to wait five weeks without income until they get their first payment? And will they have to do 35 hours of jobseeking a week to carry on receiving what they get, if they get it at some point?

    I’ve always had trouble keeping up my jobsearch living in a rural county with jobs often scattered far and wide and transport links poor to non-existent. Having to stay at home all day, with the libraries and Jobcentres closed; unable to go out to visit potential employers, or get access to newspapers, or to just walk through the town to check to see if anything has been casually advertised, or to talk to people to see if they know if anybody is hiring has reduced my activities basically to going online and checking the job-boards. Apart for supermarkets I haven’t seen any new vacancies posted since the week end close enough to my home to get to. Also, because I can’t possibly spend 35 hours a week jobseeking at the best of times, because there has never been enough work available to enable me to do that, I opted to do 16 hours of voluntary work every week for my town’s council’s parks and gardens department as the only way to have enough job related activity every week to fill the dead air. My volunteering has had the mockers put on it now and, hand on heart, I have no bloody idea at all how to keep up with the things I agreed to on my claimant commitment during the Covid-19 epidemic not because I am unwilling but because with everything locked down it is literally impossible.

    Still at least now the country will have a chance to see and hopefully understand how inadequate and bloody awful Universal Credit is in practice. If the only good thing to emerge from the coronavirus disaster in that UC is finally brought into the daylight for all to see at least that will be something.

    Martin Wright

    March 25, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    • There are still loads of “jobs” on the system. Can’t you just apply for anything so they can’t claim you weren’t “actively seeking employment”. It’s not as if they are going to have time to check through three months plus of jobsearch with over a million new claimants to deal with.

      bob

      March 25, 2020 at 8:21 pm

  218. As I write these words no fewer than 612 comments have been added to this page. Has the Ipsissimus of Ipswitch been swallowed by the abyss à la Johnny Void? Or taken the long dark journey prematurely as a victim of Covid-19? Will no heroic servant of the holy flame step forth rally the forces of the light to stand against the night and Qlippothic forces of nescience and darkness?

    Bleys

    March 25, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    • A wise man hears one word and understands two.

      Zephirus

      March 25, 2020 at 5:19 pm

      • Beneath the ever seeing eye of the Supreme Architect of the Universe so mote it be.

        Raymond Lully

        March 25, 2020 at 6:21 pm

      • Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. – George Bernard Shaw

        Justinus

        March 25, 2020 at 7:59 pm

      • In the beginning doth the Magus speak Truth, and send forth Illusion and Falsehood to enslave the soul. Yet therein is the Mystery of Redemption.

        Anselm

        March 26, 2020 at 3:46 pm

  219. A lot of readers on the Daily Mail website are now whinging in the comments section about how long they have been on the phone trying to make a claim and how they are finding it so hard to get verified. Funny, I was led to believe claiming benefits was a breeze and you only had to put your head ’round the door to receive a huge stack of free cash!

    bob

    March 25, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    • @bob – A sad awakening for these people. many of whom bought into the anti-benefits rhetoric of the last 10 years.

      Malcom Green

      March 25, 2020 at 8:01 pm

  220. 500,000 Universal Credit new claims in 15 hours. The system will crash because it can’t cope. It couldn’t even cope before the new self employed policy was mentioned. The Flagship Welfare Reform Universal Credit has sunk that it will never recover. Bye bye Universal Credit.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2020 at 8:22 pm

  221. Let us self isolate the genocide of the disabled for the past 10 years with State Sponsored Murders & Human Rights Breeches.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    • Boris Johnson will be at lest charged with War Crimes.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      March 25, 2020 at 8:27 pm

  222. The Tory Policy to Kill Off The Homeless is working well !!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2020 at 8:28 pm

  223. well my jsa was paid in but was the normal rate

    superted

    March 26, 2020 at 10:16 am

  224. Dog-shit hanging from a branch,
    It didn’t get there just by chance,
    Some dirty bastard put it there,
    For all to see, he didn’t care.
    And now it hangs there on the tree,
    Two fingers up to you and me.

    Random Poet

    March 26, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    • Ha! Ha! Another classic @random. True as well, how many of those plastic bags are around.

      Gavin

      March 26, 2020 at 10:44 pm

  225. They still expect people on Universal Credit who get sick and go to hospital to register a change of circumstances ? This will stop the claim instantly.

    Colin Claimant

    March 26, 2020 at 1:14 pm

  226. ‘First-time claimants have described calling the service between 80 and 100 times to no avail. The Guardian has been trying over the last two days, and has been unable to get through. At one stage yesterday there were queues of 145,000 people waiting to log on to the website, where all claims must start.’

    A total disaster just waiting to happen. When are these people going to get any actual money ?

    Jeff Smith

    March 26, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    • As you say Jeff, it’s a disaster waiting to happen, it’s doomed to fail, the system will collapse and they’ll be forced to introduce some form of Basic Income. At least now the Tory-voting Joe Public are gaining firsthand experience of the almighty shit-storm that is Universal Credit. Iain Duncan Smith is Yesterday’s Man, his ego-driven vanity project is a fantasy that bears no relevance to the 21st Century, he and his ilk have had their day, their petty-minded vindictive and punitive notions of the deserving poor can be relegated to history as Society moves forward together with a new outlook and a equitable redistribution of wealth that will liberate so much hidden potential as we enter the New Age. That was probably the reason for this virus, to move Humanity onward and upward to greater things. There is a fly-by of a huge asteroid soon too as further confirmation.

      trev

      March 26, 2020 at 1:51 pm

  227. Yes trev we are now entering a new age, the age of Aquarius aka (nwo).

    Violet

    March 26, 2020 at 2:04 pm

  228. Huge embarrassment for the DWP. Their precious Universal Credit system in tatters. Even using DWP staff as forced labour won’t solve this.

    Jack Reid

    March 26, 2020 at 2:08 pm

  229. Has anybody received any mail since Monday? It seems to have stopped altogether where I live.

    Ro

    March 26, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    • still delivering round here

      superted

      March 26, 2020 at 3:54 pm

      • There was no post here for two days and its a different postperson on Thursday.

        ken

        March 27, 2020 at 3:49 am

  230. Received mail today, love. Postman Pat very much alive and kicking.

    Val

    March 26, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    • Got handed a parcel today from the postman. Never seen him before. And the regular one seems to have disappeared without trace. Are the regulars all in ‘self-isolation’ and they are hiring from the jobcentre to provide cover in these dangerous times? Should have paid more attention to the staff in Home Bargains, B&M etc. too. Bet they are all on jobcentre ‘work experience’ at the moment.

      Bev

      March 27, 2020 at 4:04 pm

  231. well i got a funny feeling that ppl trying to claim benefits that has been working long enough will be directed to claim new style jsa instead of uc.

    it will end after 182 days and you will only get £73.10 per week.

    so even tho this benefit was for tax based contributions that you paid in to the system you wont get the extra 20 quid on uc if you have never paid in to the system at all.

    it makes no sense at all to me imo there is going to be a lot of pissed of ppl when they check there bank accounts and when the jcp offices open back up.

    i still have not received any letter from the dwp and i bet the next one i will get will be for my next appointment.

    superted

    March 26, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    • They said they could ring or receive a letter in about four/six weeks.I’ll take down the number on the door passing by again,there was someone else trying to enter on Thursday too.It might be best phone the Jsa 0800 line the day before a signing day for an update.

      In a crisis like this the last place is direct somone to UC.Most people would be trying to hold onto their job during this.

      Click to access CUC_1808_2017-00.pdf

      ken

      March 27, 2020 at 4:15 am

  232. Amazing really, all these outraged people protesting that they can’t be expected to live on £94 a week.
    The benefits system , what’s left of it, is going to be a shock for them. And that’s before they see what it means to have a ‘Claimant Commitment’ and all the rest of it.

    Tom Sutton

    March 26, 2020 at 10:48 pm

  233. An Amazon warehouse employee has described his workplace as a “living hell” as staff work around the clock to deliver goods to homes trapped in lockdown.
    The staff member, who wishes to remain anonymous, told Mirror Money he is worried about the working conditions amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

    Says a lot for it doesn’t it ?

    Andy J.

    March 26, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    • Andy J I’m a Union rep and one of my members contacted me to See if I could give any advice for her daughter (not my member). Daughter is single parent with 3 kids in private rented working 3 days a week at a waste company and had been sacked for self isolating. So many people are coming to me for advice..half aren’t even members but what can you do? I can’t turn my back. Stay safe all

      katrehman

      March 28, 2020 at 11:34 am

    • American companies arn’t good places to work.if anyone speaks out they are targetted and will end up out on their ear.

      Amazon is cracking down on protesters and organizing, workers say

      At least six workers who have participated in protests or advocated for safer conditions have been fired during the pandemic

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/05/amazon-protests-union-organizing-cracking-down-workers

      ken

      May 6, 2020 at 6:01 pm

  234. Scrapped from Twitter:

    Can someone from the DWP advise people on Job Seekers Allowance who have to sign on every two weeks, as the information is not very clear?….

    I was told they will phone you and you do not have to go in and physically sign on for the foreseeable

    What if you don’t have a ‘phone? Are the DWP going to be posting out ‘phones? 😀 Wouldn’t put it past the bastards 😀

    Ring

    March 27, 2020 at 8:45 am

  235. I know that I shall meet my fate
    Somewhere among the clouds above;
    Those that I fight I do not hate,
    Those that I guard I do not love;
    My country is Kiltartan Cross,
    My countrymen Kiltartan’s poor,
    No likely end could bring them loss
    Or leave them happier than before.
    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
    Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
    A lonely impulse of delight
    Drove to this tumult in the clouds;
    I balanced all, brought all to mind,
    The years to come seemed waste of breath,
    A waste of breath the years behind
    In balance with this life, this death.

    Another Random Poet

    March 27, 2020 at 8:53 am

  236. Also on Twitter:

    Why have I not received my job seekers today

    Ring

    March 27, 2020 at 9:06 am

  237. Benefit sanctions ‘should not apply’ during coronavirus crisis, DWP says

    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/26/benefit-sanctions-not-apply-coronavirus-crisis-dwp-says-12463478/?ito=cbshare

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

    superted

    March 27, 2020 at 11:43 am

    • @superted – Good to hear. But I would still advise anyone who can, and has internet access, to keep a few applications going in just to be on the safe side. You can’t trust the DWP.

      Tom Sutton

      March 27, 2020 at 12:32 pm

  238. Boris Johnson tests positive for covid – 19.

    The ‘disease’ finally has a real poster boy – watch BoJo’s journey through the health scare live streamed from #10.

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 12:28 pm

  239. I notice there is precious little being said about the Chinese wildlife markets ? The apparent source of the Covid-19 infections. Will they now commit to closing these awful places before there is another outbreak of disease ?

    Alan Turner

    March 27, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    • The Chinese economy is picking up while the west is in tatters… Strange that don’t you think.

      Violet

      March 27, 2020 at 1:00 pm

  240. Latest guys you couldn’t make this up. Our esteemed leader Boris Johnson (excuse the sarcasm lol) has tested positive for coronavirus. It’s his pregnant girlfriend I feel sorry for. .

    katrehman

    March 27, 2020 at 12:36 pm

  241. Has he f*ck got the crowflu, it’s odd that none of the politicians, celebrities, actors, sportstars have been hospitalised or snuffed it from crow 19… all part of the theatre to fool the masses!

    Tigerlily

    March 27, 2020 at 12:49 pm

  242. I’m smelling a rat here aren’t you.

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    • on average 1400 die every day in the uk and 578 dead from cv in weeks, it dont add up to what they are doing as this is got to cost 500 billion at this rate it is a strain of the flu not the black death and bodys pilling up on street corners. tax rates will be going up thats a sure fact.

      superted

      March 27, 2020 at 1:13 pm

      • An evil entity or entities are doing their damnedest to trash the markets for sure. Trillions of dollars have been pumped into them but it keeps getting sucked out and the stricken markets are pulled back underwater. The Fed has said it will ‘do what it takes’ to save them. Be interesting to see if the bounce back or if this is really ‘game over’ and a New World Order.

        George Soreass

        March 27, 2020 at 4:16 pm

      • its like there using a nuke to win a fist fight its MADness

        superted

        March 27, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    • Yes Violet and a whole load of bullshit!

      Tigerlily

      March 27, 2020 at 1:42 pm

      • @ Tigerlily

        You’re a raving lunatic. You belong in a padded cell you sad fuck, and why Andrew Coates allows your shit on this site is beyond me.

        KJ

        March 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    • Nope. There’s only one conspiracy theorist that posts on this site under various monikers. You.

      Piers

      March 27, 2020 at 8:29 pm

      • Nope, I don’t post under various names, don’t need to, I just say it how it is, baaaaaaaaaa 🐏🐑

        Tigerlily

        March 28, 2020 at 1:27 pm

  243. BoJo has a cold.

    That’s so cute BoJo has a runny nose.

    The more celebrities get this thing and blow their noses publicly the faster we can get back to normal.

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 1:16 pm

  244. There was no virus in China, it’s all been staged to bring down the west, they were given all our manufacturing jobs years ago to leave the west with mass unemployment, the Chinese work model and social credit system is coming here!

    Tigerlily

    March 27, 2020 at 2:17 pm

  245. … And the Social Credit System that is being rolled out in China will be a Universal Basic Income that millions in the west will have to live on after the global economy has been trashed!

    Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 2:23 pm

  246. Violet

    March 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm

    • @You forgot the Reptilian Aliens from the Alpha Draconis star system. Don’t they have any say in this ?

      Daedalus

      March 27, 2020 at 3:15 pm

      • It’s probably the greys that are behind it… you know… the ones that probe you anally. Pretty impolite behaviour from an advanced species if you ask me. Before inserting things into your bodily orifices and probing you you’d think that they’d have the courtesy to take you out for a meal or a drink first wouldn’t you?

        Icarus

        March 27, 2020 at 8:26 pm

      • Can humans probe grey aliens? If “yes” then I wouldn’t say no.

        https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.7ai3kWlw_YyWpgtsXEEz1gHaQy&pid=Api&rs=1

        Priapus

        March 27, 2020 at 8:36 pm

  247. Aleister

    March 27, 2020 at 4:07 pm

  248. Funny how a global pandemic can “end homelessness by the weekend”. Just like that. Magic. After decades of initiatives, so-called charities coining it in, etc. It goes to show that homelessness is a political choice, a choice that has been made by many governments of assorted colours down through the years. Homelessness is deliberate policy. How many other scams are out there that could “end by the weekend”?

    Blinding Lights

    March 27, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    • It’s only a temporary measure to stop the homeless infecting others with coronavirus. Nothing to do with helping rough sleepers to get indoors permanently. Once a vaccine has been developed or the virus dies away to a tolerable level naturally the rough sleepers will be dossing down on pavements again.

      큰 음경

      March 28, 2020 at 2:23 pm

  249. that work search requirements for claimants of universal credit or new style JSA are not imposed for a period of 3 months, and that any existing work search requirement no longer applies so that the requirement to be ‘able and willing immediately to take up paid work’ no longer applies;

    Billy Boyne

    March 28, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    • No more work search requirements? That’s because there are no jobs, the global economy is on its knees duh.

      Violet

      March 28, 2020 at 4:25 pm

  250. “for claimants who have an award of old style JSA to be treated as available for work and actively seeking employment for at least the next 3 months”

    Billy Boyne

    March 28, 2020 at 4:11 pm

  251. for jsa nothing has changed as nothing has been said about anyone claiming jsa or why we dont get as much on uc and only 73.10 per week. we have just been forgotten about like we dont exist

    superted

    March 28, 2020 at 4:39 pm

  252. Ted, I think they are probably trying to force jsa claimants to sign up for universal credit and that’s the reason why uc has gone up £20 a week

    ~ are you tempted?

    Violet

    March 28, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • no because one way or another they will be forced to pay out as we are getting shat on at the worst possible time.

      superted

      March 28, 2020 at 5:50 pm

      • It is wrong that JSA / ESA are not being uprated. But those people on JSA in particular, are still seen as not co-operating with the DWP. This is the payback for that.

        Dave

        March 28, 2020 at 6:27 pm

      • Its not just the benefit thats seen as legacy.

        The Welfare State

        March 29, 2020 at 3:04 am

  253. but you can now claim new style jsa if you have been working 2 years and paying in to the system, you will only get £73.10 same as jsa.

    you cant have 2 systems for the same thing at different rates it is unlawful as 1 will gain and 1 will not.

    superted

    March 28, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    • Yeah, it’s very wrong Superted. How can they get away with just putting up the Universal Credit and ignoring everybody else ? But there doesn’t seem to be much complaint about it ?

      Rob

      March 28, 2020 at 8:51 pm

  254. Miscellaneous changes to social security in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak
    New regulations in force from 30 March 2020

    New regulations have been issued that provide for miscellaneous changes to social security in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.

    In force from 30 March 2020, the Social Security (Coronavirus) (Further Measures) Regulations 2020 (SI.No.371/2020) provide –

    billyboyne

    March 28, 2020 at 9:55 pm

  255. If the UK is to emerge from the crisis, and avoid the Tory Government using it as an excuse to double down on austerity, post-Covid-19, then it’s imperative that people wise up to MMT – Modern Monetary Theory, and pretty fast.

    If there was ever a demonstration that its interpretation of the money creation process in the UK is correct, this crisis has proved it. Sunak was able to promise billions upon billions of pounds of extra-ordinary public spending, without even the pretence of needing to raise taxes from the population in advance. Yet this is the deceit that they maintain at all other times.

    Mutterings have been made about how this sudden and incredible government largesse would be “paid for”, and the supposed answer, “borrowing”, was seen to be half-heartedly mooted by commentators, both on TV and in print. But it was never quite explained precisely who it was who would be doing the lending! The private sector is in tatters as a result of this crisis; they’re pleading with the government for massive bailouts themselves! And are certainly not in any position whatsoever to lend money to anyone!

    Fortunately, the reality is that they don’t need to. HM Government is the monopoly creator of the currency, and does not need to “borrow” a single penny in order to spend. Why would it? It’s easy for the govt-owned BoE to create money, it does it every day whenever the government spends into the economy – a simple keyboard stroke that adds pounds to the BoE reserve account of Dyson’s bank, and all those ventilators are paid for. Another to buy a further £200bn of Gilts on the secondary market. A third to provision the contents of the converted Excel “hospital”, a fourth to pay the 80% of furloughed workers’ salaries that Sunak promised… it’s so easy, its almost obscene!

    And, as each of those initial and subsequent transactions circulates around the economy, they will be taxed, in the normal way (VAT, Income Tax, NI, Duties, etc) until, at any positive tax rate, in an ever-declining geometric regression, every single penny of that extra spending that Sunak carried out will be returned to the Exchequer – where, in an opposite, reserve-drain operation at the BoE, it’s removed from circulation, and effectively destroyed. That’s almost obscene too, and yet that’s exactly what happens – each and every day.

    The only currency that won’t be subject to taxation will be any that is saved – and that will show up as ‘The Deficit’!!! Shock horror! But so, what? It’s the people’s savings. So, the only budget deficit that will result from all of Sunak’s ‘generosity’ will be our savings. No big deal, once they get spent, they’ll be taxed in the normal way, and “The Deficit” (= our savings) will subside accordingly.

    Importantly, the only reason that any *extra* taxation, or cuts in public spending, might need to occur, post-Covid-19 crisis, is if there are too few goods and services in the economy to absorb the extra spending that has occured – leading to inflation and overheating of the economy. Because this crisis has effected the supply side as well as the demand side, the situation is potentially more complex than in 2008, and temporary shortages *could* lead to some price increases, but as there is a demand side recession too, this could equally well balance out. Time will tell, but I wouldn’t exactly anticipate a boom, especially if people net save – there’s more likely to be a recession, requiring further increases in spending or tax cuts as a stimulus.

    In the meantime, it’s essential that we all understand this whole government spending process properly, in order to robustly counter the inevitable calls for post crisis-austerity that the Tories will subject us to. Only a true knowledge of the money creation process in the UK will allow us to resist their wheedling calls to “pay for” what has just been spent, when the reality is, it doesn’t need to be “paid for” at all.

    We will have already, automatically, paid any taxes incurred as a result of the extra transactions that take place, and some of us will have paid with our lives for the decade of Tory neglect to the NHS, that will result in higher casualties than necessary. We must certainly not be made to pay twice!

    #LearnMMT

    Sheinokowi

    March 29, 2020 at 8:02 am

  256. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/universal-credit-dwp-changes-april-3995131

    2. Universal Credit additional increase
    As well as Universal Credit being boosted by the end of the benefit freeze, it is getting another increase as part of Government measures to tackle the economic impact of coronavirus.

    From April 6, the Government is increasing the standard allowance in Universal Credit by 1,000 a year, or about £80 a month, on top of the inflation uprating.

    This means that for a single Universal Credit claimant (aged 25 or over), the standard monthly allowance will increase from £317.82 to £409.89 per month.

    This applies to all new and existing Universal Credit claimants and will be in place for one year.

    superted

    March 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    • @superted – But what about legacy JSA / ESA claimants ? It’s just like the DWP are deliberately trying to be clever by ignoring the legacy claimants. Though I have no doubt that ‘legacy claimant’ is a dirty word with the DWP these days.

      Jeff Smith

      March 29, 2020 at 11:25 pm

  257. It’s really boiling my blood the extra money uc claiments are gonna get.
    It’s discrimination.

    If legacy claiment were getting the extra money, whilst uc were being ignored, everyone would be crying for them, but as legacy claiments we are supposed to be ashamed that we are on old fashioned benefit.

    Now they want everyone locked inside for 6 months. Kill me now.

    big bird

    March 30, 2020 at 12:10 am

  258. Is Andrew Coates OK? Haven’t heard anything from him for a while.

    And for some reason my box has gone from brown to blue, WTF!

    jj joop

    March 30, 2020 at 6:47 am

    • And now its gone back to its original colour, hmmm.

      jj joop

      March 30, 2020 at 6:48 am

  259. SIR Dickie Branson and SIR Stelios want their staff to risk their lives by exposing themselves to a deadly virus. SIR Dickie is quick to point out that his staff will be paid by the GOVERNMENT. SIR Dickie won’t be paying his laid off staff a bean. SIR Dickie also expects a £££ multi-billions Government ‘bail-out’. Will SIR Dickie be risking HIS life? Is SIR Dickie holed up in his private Nectar Island? Has SIR Dickie got no shame?

    “Thousands of EasyJet and Virgin airline staff are being offered work in the new NHS Nightingale Hospital in east London.

    Those who sign up will support nurses and clinicians at the coronavirus field hospital, the NHS said.

    Virgin Atlantic said furloughed staff who helped would be paid through the government retention scheme.

    NHS England said many airline staff were first aid trained and already had security clearance.

    The workers would be changing beds and performing other non-clinical tasks and helping doctors and nurses working on the wards, the NHS said.

    Virgin Atlantic said it had written to about 4,000 employees, while EasyJet said it had contacted 9,000 of its UK-based staff – half of whom were first aid trained, the airline said.”

    SIR Dickie Btanson is a bearded wanker

    March 30, 2020 at 7:56 am

    • Basically they will be auxiliary nurses. Doing all the REAL work, Getting paid £jack shit. Doing all the dirty and dangerous work. Meanwhile the over-paid, lazy STAFF nurses will be sat on their arses in the ‘isolated’ pod eating chocolates, or probably working ‘remotely’ from home. You would have to be NUTS to sign up for this. Come on, Sir Dickie and Sir Stelios let’s see you pair of fuckers on the frontline.

      Kaffy

      March 30, 2020 at 8:05 am

    • jobcentre work coaches should be forced to do this. leave off the airline staff. shell is family. she ain’t risking her life/

      the mitchells

      March 30, 2020 at 8:09 am

  260. SIR Dickie Btanson is a bearded wanker

    March 30, 2020 at 7:58 am

  261. jobcentre lockdown will last at least six months guvmint chief medical officer says pmsl

    superted's rotten teef

    March 30, 2020 at 8:27 am

    • Where are the Jobcentres going to get the staff, or the time, to check 6 months jobsearch ?

      Pete

      March 30, 2020 at 10:57 am

  262. US

    Coronavirus: Teenage boy whose death was linked to COVID-19 turned away from urgent care for not having insurance

    covid

    March 30, 2020 at 10:17 am

  263. So in six months time, people who still do printed jobsearch like @superted will just bring it in a rucksack, and empty it out on the desk ?

    Dave

    March 30, 2020 at 11:00 am

    • well the number of jobs being advertised on total jobs and cv library ect have not slowed down so i wont have a problem with job search but it makes me think theses jobs just dont exist and are just fishing for cvs for the right ppl they want.

      it does not make any sense at all but prob why i never get any human to reply.

      superted

      March 30, 2020 at 11:58 am

      • Also indeed.co.uk and reed.co.uk, I agree most of the jobs probably don’t exist. I have had a few responses over the years, and did get some temp paid work. but most the time the job had already been filled or due to the numbers applying for the job, an automatic email back saying the formatted unsucessful email

        The employment agencies will either want you to have a video interview or just a phone call, if staff have not been laid of working for them.

        my_final_username

        April 1, 2020 at 8:30 pm

  264. There still needs to a clear statement from the DWP, that all job search requirements are suspended for everyone on benefits. And no-one will be expected to turn up in 3 or 6 months time with half a year’s jobsearch in one go. It will just be enough to turn up, sign-on again, and start with a blank sheet. And no questions asked.

    Jack Reid

    March 30, 2020 at 11:05 am

    • These are the new Regulations “https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/371/made”

      They explicitly state “Regulation 6 applies to a claimant who has an award of universal credit or new style JSA and makes provision so that work search requirements are not imposed for a period of 3 months from the date these Regulations come into force as a consequence of the outbreak of coronavirus disease. Provision is also made so that any existing work search requirement no longer applies and so that the requirement to be “able and willing immediately to take up paid work” under a work availability requirement applies only once the regulation ceases to apply. There is power for the Secretary of State to extend the 3-month period in consequence of the continuation of the outbreak of coronavirus disease.”

      billyboyne

      March 30, 2020 at 7:33 pm

      • Old style JSA – availability for employment and actively seeking employment
        7.—(1) As a consequence of the outbreak of coronavirus disease, a person who has an award of old style JSA is to be treated as—

        (a)available for employment; and
        (b)actively seeking employment,
        for the purposes of the Jobseekers Act 1995(21).

        (2) This regulation applies for a period of 3 months beginning with the date that these Regulations come into force and the Secretary of State may extend that period for all cases or any class of case where it appears expedient as a consequence of the continuation of the outbreak of coronavirus disease.

        (3) In this regulation, “old style JSA” means a jobseeker’s allowance under the Jobseekers Act 1995 as that Act has effect apart from the amendments made by Part 1 of Schedule 14 to the Welfare Reform Act 2012 that remove references to an income-based allowance.

        Jobseeker’s Allowance – periods of sickness
        8.—(1) A person who has an award of jobseeker’s allowance and who is—

        (a)infected or contaminated with coronavirus disease;
        (b)in isolation; or
        (c)caring for a child or qualifying young person who is a member of the person’s household and who falls within sub-paragraph (a) or (b),
        and who satisfies the requirements for entitlement to a jobseeker’s allowance other than those specified in section 1(2)(f) of the Jobseekers Act 1995(22) (not having limited capability for work) is to be treated as capable of work or as not having limited capability for work.

        (2) Any period during which this regulation applies to the person is to be disregarded for the purposes of calculating the number of occasions for the purposes of—

        (a)regulation 55(3) or 55ZA(5) of the Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 1996(23);
        (b)regulation 46(3) or 46A(5) of the Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 2013(24).
        (3) In this regulation, “jobseeker’s allowance” means an allowance under the Jobseekers Act 1995.

        so nothing at all has changed on jsa you must job search or risk sanctions wtf.

        new style jsa is jsa just the first 6 months are contribution based and then it changed to income based jsa what i am on now and it is also the same rate £73.10 per week so the only difference is they dont have to look for work.

        if ppl have been working for 2 years paying in to the system and get told to claim ns jsa there going to be pissed big time.

        yet anyone on uc that has never paid a penny in to the system will be £1000 better off.

        coronavirus disease;

        im pretty sure it is a virus,pmsl 😉 and has been around since the 1930s
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

        superted

        March 30, 2020 at 8:04 pm

  265. Why aren’t the old-style paper £20 notes that the wasteful Bank of England are burning not being used to purchase ventilators and other essential medical equipment for the NHS? I am sure that it you were in need of life-saving equipment you wouldn’t care less if it had been purchased with a paper or a plastic polymer note. The Bank of England are a disgrace.

    Mag

    March 30, 2020 at 11:35 am

  266. https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1262123/universal-credit-coronvirus-sanction-claim-uk-changes

    Ms Coffey has not ruled out sanctions altogether during this time.

    However, people on benefits should not have their payments stopped for failing to seek work during the next three months of the coronavirus crisis, Metro reports.

    In a letter to committee chairman and Labour MP Stephen Timms, Ms Coffey wrote: “Recognising the need for DWP civil servants to focus on the processing of claims, we will not be checking conditionality compliance regarding looking for and being available for work for the next three months.

    “This means no sanctions should be applied for that reason for the next three months and regulations will be introduced to bring that to effect.

    We do, however, want claimants to continue to look for work.

    “These are difficult times, however new jobs are being created.

    Following the meeting of the Work and Pensions Committee on Wednesday, Mr Timms asked Ms Coffey to outline any circumstances where claimants could be sanctioned in the next three moths.

    However, according to Metro, there were no such circumstances set out.

    In response to the update from the Secretary of State on sanctions faced by benefit claimants, Rt Hon Stephen Timms MP, Chair of the Work and Pensions Committee, said on Thursday: “At a time of unprecedented national crisis, the last thing people need to be worrying about is a benefit sanction.

    superted

    March 30, 2020 at 11:44 am

  267. https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/with-unprecedented-numbers-of-people-needing-to-access-universal-credit-the-government-must-act-quickly

    April will finally see the end of the Conservative’s four-year freeze on benefits; it has been a critical driver of increased poverty and has left a shameful legacy of hardship. Disabled people and the poor have been hit the hardest by austerity measures. Still, there has been no increase in other benefits to support disabled people, carers or people who are unemployed. Now more than ever, we need to build resilience in all of our communities. The government should do the right thing and increase support for them too.

    superted

    March 30, 2020 at 4:53 pm

  268. The DWP are still playing one off against the other. Divide and Rule. But I imagine the so-called Managed Migration Pilot Project, of 10.000 claimants in Harrogate has been derailed by all these new claimants for Universal Credit.
    The DWP were supposed to be coming back to parliament in July about the Pilot Programme.
    Before the coronavirus crisis, they had only manged to transfer, was it 18 or 19 of the 10,000 ?
    The deadline for total transfer to Universal Credit (optimistic) was 2026. They still have to complete the Pilot Project, and then go back to parliament to get new legislation passed. to allow the mass migration of all the remaining legacy claimants. Now after all this who knows ?
    At this rate, they’ll be able to put Buck Rogers on Universal Credit in the 25th Century.

    Jeff Smith

    March 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

  269. Anyone know whats happened to Andrew Coates ?

    Its judging by his last entry been 15 days since he last tended his thread.

    If anyone knows him, go check hes ok.

    Doug

    March 31, 2020 at 8:53 am

    • @ Doug – I don’t want to be indiscreet here Doug, but remember Andrew does have certain other duties to perform. No doubt we shall hear from him again in due course. Blessed Be.

      Zephyrus

      March 31, 2020 at 9:46 am

    • Probably cashed his cheque in from the DWP, took his wig off and buggered off in search of his next venture!

      Tigerlily

      March 31, 2020 at 3:06 pm

    • We will read his words again, my friends, in this life or the next and unite again to spread the cement of brotherly love and affection, that cement which unites us into one sacred band or society of the illuminated receivers of the light, among whom no contention should ever exist, but that noble emulation of who can best work or best agree. Vale fratribus et sororibus donec iterum conveniant. Amen.

      Most Puissant Sovereign Grand Commander and Illustrious Potentate of the Order of the Invisible Light

      March 31, 2020 at 3:56 pm

  270. superted

    March 31, 2020 at 11:51 am

  271. Whats gonna happen to jsa claiments who have no internet connection, the library s are all shut they have no chance to apply for jobs.

    Thank god I got a cheap smart phone to apply for fake jobs on cv library as I do not have the internet at home.
    I would not want to be the person who goes back to the job center and tell work coach after three months I haven’t applied for a job. Especially when the job center are still saying their are plenty of jobs out there.

    big bird

    March 31, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    • nothing has changed for jsa claimants buy law you must be available for work and be actively seeking employment.

      the law requires you must take at least 3 steps per week and provide evidence if required but if a sanction is issued you better have a copy of this as it is your only defence at a tribunal.

      tbh they would be totally stupid to do this given the situation as you have a good reason but id still cover my ass anyway you can because they could sanction you as the law stands today.

      a high level sanction could be applied!

      Higher level
      The higher level sanction may apply if, for example, you:

      Leave a job voluntarily

      Lose a job through misconduct

      Fail to take up a job or mandatory work activity without a good reason.

      A higher level sanction will last for:

      13 weeks for a first failure

      26 weeks for a second failure.

      Updated: February 2020

      superted

      March 31, 2020 at 9:46 pm

      • Much of whats out there recently is late night finishes and shiftwork coming through.Those with own transport and driving licences are those they want and likely to be more open as these vacancies are harder to fill.

        Its all about having something someone else hasn’t but in can come down to somthing petty such as age.

        As the post cannot be relied on its best check before a signing day incase of a time is missed.

        ken

        April 1, 2020 at 3:58 am

      • @superted

        What mandatory work activities are there, now?

        jj joop

        April 1, 2020 at 9:03 am

      • none that i know of but not seeking work for 3 months would lead to a high level sanction

        superted

        April 1, 2020 at 10:36 am

  272. More madness from the BBC,

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/31/tv-licence-fee-could-be-replaced-by-broadband-levy-says-bbc

    “implement a funding model “linked directly to an existing common household bill” such as an internet connection, council tax, or electricity supply.”

    “Under this proposed system bailiffs could be sent to homes on behalf of the broadcaster to collect payment, while individuals’ credit ratings could be affected.”

    Billy Boyne

    March 31, 2020 at 9:57 pm

  273. ‘Close to a million people have attempted to claim benefits in the last two weeks in Britain with coronavirus having ravaged the economy.’- Daily Mirror

    Most of these poor devils are still weeks away from getting any actual money. What incentive does the DWP think there is, for a legacy claimant of Jobseeker’s Allowance to take a short-term temporary job ? Then join the other million in the queue for Universal Credit ?

    Jeff Smith

    April 1, 2020 at 8:37 am

    • @Jeff Smith

      May be that’s just what they want – to get us legacy claimers out of the way and on UC.

      jj joop

      April 1, 2020 at 9:11 am

      • @jj joop – The DWP do seem to be running a deliberate campaign of ignoring the legacy JSA claimants.
        Seeing them as inconvenient left-overs from the old benefit system. And people that they are determined not to reward for staying on legacy JSA. Which is why legacy JSA claimants were excluded from the recent increase to Universal Credit.
        But in reality, who would want to transfer to Universal Credit at the moment ?

        Jeff Smith

        April 1, 2020 at 9:40 am

  274. Not suprised to see that the Harrogate Universal Credit Pilot Scheme has now been suspended.
    The whole thing has gone into free-fall along with rest of Universal Credit.

    Tom Sutton

    April 1, 2020 at 10:15 am

  275. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52114414

    funny thing is my job search has not stopped and am getting plenty of new jobs to apply for every day but!

    90% of the jobs are sales assistant yet most of these places are closed so why would they be advertising new jobs when there all going bust and not even open?

    makes me think none of these jobs were ever real in the first place as it does not matter how many i apply for i still get nothing bar a auto reply.

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 11:29 am

    • I’ve seen jobs appear on findajob at 3am on Christmas day. It’s obvious some employers just set their account to auto repost and don’t bother to update it if the vacancy is filled.

      bob

      April 1, 2020 at 5:08 pm

  276. York woman fined for breaching coronavirus rules

    A woman has been fined for breaching coronavirus restrictions after she refused to tell police who she was and why she was at a railway station.

    Marie Dinou, 41, from York, was arrested at Newcastle Central Station at 08:00 GMT on Saturday.

    North Tyneside Magistrates’ Court imposed a £660 fine under the Coronavirus Act 2020 on Monday.

    Dinou, who did not enter a plea, was also ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £66 and costs of £85.

    British Transport Police assistant chief constable Sean O’Callaghan said enforcement of the new legislation was a last resort.

    “In this case, officers tried their utmost best to engage with Dinou.

    “I can assure you we would much rather not have to take such action.”

    Under the Coronavirus Act, it is illegal to fail to comply with the instructions of police officers without reasonable excuse.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-52121216

    Police State UK

    April 1, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    • well I had the top deck of the bus to myself. Tfl must be commended on running a full service on the 142 with slightly more passengers.Watford council simply say if you have symptoms stay in doors on posters in the town none of this stay in doors regardless save lives elswhere.And yes I was fine.

      Carrie on

      April 2, 2020 at 6:30 pm

  277. Boris removes broadband data caps.

    Turdgeon removes trial by jury.

    Haggis

    April 1, 2020 at 1:25 pm

  278. Scotland the first country to ban sales of alcohol due to Covid 19 outbreak

    https://introtimes.com/vip/1040808/Scotland-first-country-ban-sale-due-to-covid-19-outbreak-48904

    Avril Pool

    April 1, 2020 at 1:31 pm

  279. Anger as coronavirus DWP benefit rise skips out millions of families

    Around 2million people who are still on ‘legacy’ benefits miss out on the boost to Universal Credit – and the vast majority are sick or disabled, claiming ESA

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/anger-coronavirus-benefit-rise-skips-21792756

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 2:31 pm

  280. ‘At the last count 183,000 people were on JSA, 372,000 on Income Support and 2million on ESA.’

    Completely unfair that these people are being deliberately excluded from the benefit increase. This needs to stop. #EqualPayJSA

    Pete

    April 1, 2020 at 2:54 pm

  281. DWP Permanent Secretary Peter Schofield added the rate of legacy benefits could not be changed quickly due to older computer systems.

    now that is a load of bollocks as all they had to do was increase the 1.7% we was getting anyway.

    more like it is they do not give a crap about us in the first place.

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 3:23 pm

    • @superted – Of course it is, absolute nonsense. They could easily make the extra payment, just as they have made the £1.25 increase to JSA etc. They don’t want to give extra money to people who are determined to stay on JSA for as long as possible.

      Jeff Smith

      April 1, 2020 at 5:36 pm

      • it would not make any difference to me if i was moved on to uc i have all the foi requests i need and i wont be doing a 35hr job search or will i have a journal.

        i think i have 35hr job search on my cc but i dont do it as it is a expectation and can not be enforced with sanctions, they did try and lost.

        but what is going to happen when the jcp offices open back up the ques will be so long it will be impossible to see every one as it is with the sheer numbers making claims.

        i did offer to sign on 1 time per year tho, make it happen 😉

        superted

        April 1, 2020 at 6:52 pm

  282. EXTRA HELP Universal Credit now calling applicants who can’t get through on phones to book appointments – how to get a ring back
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11300849/universal-credit-calling-applicants-phones-book-appointments/

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 6:55 pm

  283. superted

    April 1, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    • Isnt he just so cute, thinking hes life will continue as normal.

      I see a welfare guru in the making, well until he tries to guru his work advisor that is.

      Doug

      April 2, 2020 at 7:58 am

    • Welcome to our world, dear!

      jj joop

      April 2, 2020 at 9:15 am

    • The moment he mentioned his “accountant” alarm bells started ringing. It appears this Andrew Keates chap is director of his own company Arion Productions Ltd. In other words, in the eyes of the taxman he isn’t self employed and can’t claim a penny through this scheme.

      bob

      April 2, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  284. 1) “Criticism” of the government is being channelled into ideas that the government WANTS people to have, such as:

    a) the authorities should have done exactly what they’re doing but faster
    b) the authorities should do what they plan to do but sooner, namely test and vaccinate
    c) there’s a big problem from anti-social elements.

    The thinking person needs to call all three of these ideas bullsh*t.

    2) Ever more draconian “next steps” may include:

    a) compulsory tests
    b) compulsory vaccination
    c) food shortages
    d) power cuts
    e) no availability of cash from bank machines and bank branches
    f) a strain that kills many younger people including children
    g) proper rationing – i.e. each person allowed e.g. 1 loaf per week and no company is allowed to sell a loaf without stamping a ration card (to be done digitally of course)
    h) a vicious clampdown against those who have not been tested or vaccinated, to include imprisonment and the denial of ration cards, i.e. denial of food – resisters will basically be called antisocial killers fit only to be starved and hunted. (Tory heaven!)

    Remember that list.

    3) These are some facts that say a lot:

    a) government and media are deliberately confusing dying WITH CV19 with dying OF it
    b) the vast majority of those who have died with CV19 would have died soon anyway
    c) the idea that the authorities and big business don’t know roughly how many people have got CV19, and roughly how many have had it (and therefore have the antibodies), is an obvious lie. You do NOT have to test millions of people to get that information.

    4) My advice is as follows:

    a) hoard food (I have been advising this for some time)
    b) prepare to resist testing and vaccination
    c) spread knowledge of the above points

    5) Listen up

    Many like to think that “black swan events” (to use Nassim Taleb’s terminology) are what they always thought might happen. This is usually utter rubbish, and leftwingers such as myself who were predicting a breakdown were an extremely small minority.

    @Craig – I believe you once called me “delusional” here for predicting a widespread breakdown. (I couldn’t find the source.) One is now underway.

    6) Biological warfare, the United States, and the cull

    a) China, Taiwan and both Korean regimes have long been far stronger in BW defence than the US. To be strong in BW defence you need effective internal centralisation which the US has not got. China has a major strategic advantage over the US.

    b) Donald Trump is deliberately trying to overstate the number of deaths so as to appear the hero when it turns out to be lower. But soon all of that discourse will be swept away. Donald who? He is unlikely to be re-elected and probably will not even be the Republican candidate.

    c) A cull was coming anyway. Almost all of the world’s serious elites want it.

    d) Nutshell: BW is far more similar to psychological warfare than CW and NW are, even if it can be at least as deadly as CW and NW and indeed more so.

    7) Climate loons

    …are keeping remarkably quiet. Ask why. This situation will at some point change when those among the cultists who aren’t dead poke their heads out again.

    R Nought

    April 1, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    • Just been to put gas in the pick-up truck…Big fucking sign – ‘Card Payments Only’. Cashless society to protect us from dirty money, here we come. Visited Aldi yesterday for some essential supplies, only 10 persons allowed in store at any one time, one out, one in. The queue stretched around and around the parking lot, with everyone silently standing 10 feet apart.

      AJ

      April 1, 2020 at 8:34 pm

      • It was the same here at standing downwind of everyone else then in the store walking past them,there were no handbaskets and people had to use their shopping bag.

        ken

        April 2, 2020 at 6:08 am

  285. this is a controlled destruction of the economy and at this rate the cure will be way worse than the virus 100k+ has died on benefits and been found fit for work they dont give a shit about them.

    if the plan is to make the hole country bankrupt then it is working as 3 months lock down will pretty much close most small to mid size company’s and force millions on benefits.

    superted

    April 1, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    • With the COVID-19 situation evolving every day, and the unprecedented high demand, we are recruiting a number of full-time xxx for our site in xxx. You will play a key role in helping the company meet the nation’s food requirements, and helping our customers get what they need during these challenging times.

      There are jobs out there for people recently laid off but with shifts 6am to 10pm,the longer term unemployed don’t have the meansfor many reasons.Theres always someone who will make money from a crisis but Its brought the country to its knees.

      ken

      April 2, 2020 at 6:32 am

  286. 17 days, 3 passed the isolation rule and still no sign of Andrew Coates.

    Do you know him, is he ok ?

    Doug

    April 2, 2020 at 8:09 am

    • Coatsey hasn’t got the internet at home. All his stuff on here is done at the library and they’re all closed.

      Informer

      April 3, 2020 at 8:13 pm

      • I would imagine he has a mobile phone though and could have just dropped a post so we all know he is ok.

        Doug

        April 5, 2020 at 9:04 am

      • The late Andrews Coates library must have kept strange opening hours since back in his earthly years he used to post at all sorts of unearthly days and times and days like the middle of the night on a Christmas Day Sunday morning. As you say, now that Coates is in the ‘next room’ a quick post from beyond the grave would have been appreciated though just to let those of us still in the land of the living know that he is enjoying life on the other side and what ‘work search’ requirements the Jobcentre impose on the dead. RIP Andrew Coates. Missed Sorely. It was a blast.

        Ipswich Marxist Society

        April 5, 2020 at 10:25 am

  287. And coming soon for many of these newly unemployed people, the day-to-day reality of being on Universal Credit. 35 Hour Jobsearch. Conditionality. ‘Work Preparation Requirements’. Training Courses. etc.

    Jeff Smith

    April 2, 2020 at 8:50 am

  288. This is on the UK governments website.

    UK downgrades covid – 19 ; no longer a high consequence infectious disease.

    https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/status-of-covid-19-plandemic/

    Violet

    April 2, 2020 at 10:49 am

  289. Well the training courses will have to take place online due to covid-19

    The job centre staff will not have time to go through your job log, unless appointments are 1 hour for each person

    my_final_username

    April 2, 2020 at 11:18 am

    • According to findajob ‘There is significant demand for nurses, healthcare assistants, social care workers, delivery drivers, warehouse workers and retail workers.’ The jokecentre could still haul in ‘randomly 😉 selected’ individuals for a 2-3 hour Shit Squad-style ‘chat’. And go through the 3, 6, month, 2 year+ ‘job search’ with a fine-tooth comb. But still once you are paid the ‘evidence’ has been accepted and put through so they shouldn’t really have any recourse except to the two weeks prior to when you next sign. And they should notify claimants of their next appointment in advance… like they didn’t do with the suspension of signing-on appointments.

      Viola

      April 2, 2020 at 11:39 am

      • they have waited 3 months+ and then tried to bomb me with sanction doubts in the past seems there is no time limit to impose sanction doubts.

        if you are on jsa id do your best to keep the job search going as buy law nothing has changed for jsa claimants.

        the law states you must take 3 steps per week so if you can do 3 job apps per week that will cover you if it did go to a tribunal.

        that is also the case for uc not the 35hr bs!

        superted

        April 2, 2020 at 11:48 am

  290. Universal Credit: Nearly one million people apply to claim DWP benefit in two weeks during UK coronavirus outbreak

    https://inews.co.uk/news/universal-credit-apply-claim-dwp-benefit-uk-coronavirus-outbreak-lockdown-2526851

    superted

    April 2, 2020 at 12:11 pm

  291. DWP ‘must change’ Universal Credit rules to let people with savings get cash.

    No one with savings over £16,000 can get the benefit. But with around a million flooding onto UC thanks to coronavirus, experts say it’s time for that rule to change.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-must-change-universal-credit-21792760

    superted

    April 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm

  292. DWP urged to get Universal Credit ‘battle ready’ to handle application spike

    https://www.civilserviceworld.com/articles/news/dwp-urged-get-universal-credit-%E2%80%98battle-ready%E2%80%99-handle-application-spike

    Think tank the Resolution Foundation said the Department for Work and Pensions’ own figures showed there had been 950,000 new claims for Jobseekers Allowance and Universal Credit in the past fortnight, representing a 692% increase on March 2019 – hugely outpacing the pattern seen following the global financial crisis. It said that claims for Jobseekers Allowance increased by 79% comparing February 2008 with February 2009.

    superted

    April 2, 2020 at 12:54 pm

  293. So rich people with more then £16000 pounds demand a uc payment. They dont need uc they have plenty of money to live on.

    Are these the same people who demonized jsa claiments for having a tv fags and beer.

    So not only are they gonna get £40 extra they think they are exempt from uc conditionality.

    And everyone still hate jsa, esa pension credit claiments.

    big bird

    April 2, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    • Actually they’re getting £80 a month extra and having to do none of the usual Jobseeking BS that we did… and it’s soooo hard for them, poor newbie claimants, the system doesn’t work, boo hoo…

      Welcome to what every so called “lazy scrounger” has had to go through for years ya work-having demonizing jerks >_>

      Funny thing, I had my own father the other day now he’s has a taste of isolation (lives with his wife) ask me how I’ve coped with having nothing to do on JSA for the last 5 years and being stuck indoors alone all the time without going crazy. My immediate response was “So you’re presuming it isn’t driving me crazy Dad?”

      AeonThePhoenix

      April 3, 2020 at 7:48 am

    • Rich people have way more than 16000 and simply wouldnt claim because they dont need to.

      Dont confuse these people with the hard working ones, many on min wage, all paying tax and national insurance that have slogged for a decade or two just to scrap together 16000 or a little more.

      To lock them out is effectively double taxing them even before the virus.

      Dont let your emotions overtake your logic receptors.

      Doug

      April 3, 2020 at 7:49 am

  294. Hello, I would like to give you some honest(ly bad) news from Germany. It seems the English and US-American media reports very positively about Germany and claims that Germans were more clean and had organised everything better.
    That is sooooo untrue.

    1. You can’t really get tested. Because you can only get tested if a) you have been in a known Corona-area (Italy, Switzerland) or if b) you know you had contact with somebody who has been tested positive for Corona.
    The fact is that most people don’t know if they are infected or not and that is why the infection is spreading rapidly in Germany.

    2. Our local government health offices (Gesundheitsämter) are supposed to report the numbers of Corona infections to the Robert-Koch-Institute who is supposed to collect and evaluate these numbers. Well, they are lagging behind. Sometimes the numbers from local gov health offices are up to two weeks late. That means the officially recognised numbers of infections and deaths as published by the Robert Koch Institute are likely wrong -> aka they are too low. That might explain why according to statistics[!] Germany has only one tenth / one seventh of the death numbers of France or Spain although Germany has nearly as many infected people as France or Spain.
    Oh, and dead corpses aren’t tested for Corona even if they might have died from Corona because it is cheaper to not test them. [sic(k)!]. Apparently it doesn’t matter if they might have infected other parties while they were still alive.

    3. Germany doesn’t have enough masks nor enough medical ventilators. You can’t even buy surgical face masks any more let alone those precious FPP3 masks and even disinfection was sold out for weeks.

    4. Every day German officials claim the opposite of the truth which was true three days ago. *LOL* Here is a summary:

    a) First, around the beginning of February, Germany was well prepared allegedly and face masks were not necessary and there was no need for a shut down of schools and such. And no need to stay at home and if you feel ill then go see your doctor. The German health minister presented himself as competent. The Robert Koch Institute claimed Corona was just about as bad as the flu.

    b) Then the German government advised people to stay at home and doctors reported there were no face masks nor disinfection for sale any more.

    c) Then Germany said you could get tested … but do call your doctor first. Don’t go to see your doctor. The truth was and is: you can only get tested if you had contact with a infected person (proven infection) of if you had been in a corona-area. Still no need to wear a mask according to officials who claimed that masks didn’t help at all.

    d) Then there were reports that people didn’t manage to get tested for days despite having been in a corona-area or having had contact with people who were infected proven.

    e) The German government said there was no need for hamster shopping (buying large quantities of daily goods). Well, three of my local supermarkets didn’t have flour nor noodles nor salt nor rice nor yeast for three weeks. Now they do have flour but only the most basic kind. Plenty of shelves for essential goods are still empty.

    A new measure was introduced: Contact to people other than those from your household is forbidden. Meeting people is forbidden. You are allowed to go out only for work, shopping or to see a doctor. Now the Robert Koch Institute says that Corona is bad and that people are going to die.

    f) The German health minister is dancing around questions regarding the lack of medical supplies. Germany tries to get some more medical ventilators by making non-medical engineering companies build ventilators.
    Merkel self-quarantines because she had contact with an infected doctor who gave her a vaccination for pneumococcus (causes pneumonia). I guess she received the advice for that pneumokokken vaccination because that vaccination sort of helps against corona. Because if you get a corona infection then your immune system is weakened and it might be a pneumococcus infection aka pneumonia that kills your lungs.
    Needless to say that Merkel didn’t share this advice with her electorate.

    g) The Robert Koch Institute claims that wearing masks might be sensible. Even home-made cloth masks might help slowing down the spreading of the infection. Many people will die. Merkel isn’t seen nor heard of for days.

    h) Plenty of people in a retirement home in Wolfsburg did die – apparently from corona. The nurses in retirement homes don’t have enough medical supplies, btw.
    The Robert Koch Institute receives the anonymised mobile phone data from mobile phone companies. They are supposed to evaluate if people do generally stick to the lockdown.

    i) The government wants to allow / to enforce an individual tracking app for mobile phones. They want to find out where the infected people had been for the last 2 weeks and who they might have met. Same kind of tracking for credit cards: where did infected people buy their groceries and who else bought groceries there at the same time?
    The protection of your personal data (Datenschutz) is one of our most important rigths. Our rights which are guaranteed in the German Constitution (Grundgesetz – basic law, founding law) are slowly eroding. Our government tries to get more and more rights and powers.

    j) The German health minister isn’t seen much and doesn’t seem to be effective at all.
    Merkel is tested negatively and resurfaces and gives a speech about … usual crap.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20200329/merkel-is-back-coronavirus-crisis-boosts-german-chancellor

    k) Merkel is against wearing face masks.

    ” … BILD erfuhr: Intern warnte die Kanzlerin davor, dass ein möglicher Maskenzwang zu übermäßiger Sorglosigkeit beim Abstandhalten zwischen den Menschen führen könnte. …”
    The “Bild” is a very trashy tabloid and can be compared to the Daily Mail except that the latter has longer texts ;-P
    Translation: “… Bild came to know: The Chancellor warned her closest advisors that a potential legal compulsion to wear face masks might lead to careless behaviour regarding the required distance between people…”
    So Merkel is “worried” that if people wear masks they no longer keep their distance to other people because they might feel save due to the masks. Also damp and wet face masks made from cloth might be like a corona virus spreading catapult.
    Yep, that is Merkel’s type of logic.
    More likely there aren’t enough masks and Merkel doesn’t want to admit she failed to storage enough masks. She doesn’t want people to try to buy masks because the medical professions need them more urgently. She is trying to hide her incompetence. Meanwhile lots of people start sewing their own masks though you don’t see them wearing them in public as of yet. Though there are plenty of people who wear gloves in supermarkets.
    I don’t quite see why there is no recommendation to wear a home-made mask or a shawl but that is Merkel.

    The German minister for health (Spahn) and the German Governor of North-Rhine-Westphalia (Laschet) do consider wearing face masks as not necessary. No explanation why it ain’t necessary.

    Spahn is trying to introduce digital prescriptions … makes it easier to control who prescribed what to whom. That won’t help against corona but in times of crisis politicians try to pass laws that give them more power and more money from business donors, for example from online pharmacies.

    l) I supposed that data protection will be eroded.

    m) The German minister for business and economics tries to “help” German businesses by providing credits. Apparently this won’t help small businesses but only big ones but he is trying to improve that.

    German minister for business and for economics and for handing over lots of money to big companies as “corona crisis credits” – he foresees problems with the supply chains.

    n) Big businesses like Adidas refuse to pay rent for their shops.

    To put it in a nutshell:
    Same bullshit over here.

    German Girl

    April 2, 2020 at 6:23 pm

  295. Please educate yourself about Covid-19

    So the deaths may seem low now, but that is not the full picture.

    Many (most?) of those who recover will have some degree of “lung scarring” (pulmonary fibrosis).

    Those with “lung scaring” are at risk of dying from complications. Most victims of “lung scarring” die within 5 years.

    !!

    Jill Rabbit

    April 2, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    • corona virus was first detected in the 1930s and many different strains resulting in cold or flu like symptoms.

      On average, how many people die every day in the UK? – Quora. The current rate is 1400 people each day in England and Wales.

      so that is 43400 in the month of march that would of died anyway.

      THE British people showed their thanks to the NHS and its staff with a moving round of applause — as the UK coronavirus death toll increased by 569 today to 2,961.

      thats a total of 46361 with the avg deaths anyway and the cv19 on top.

      Marie Curie based its estimate on data from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), which the charity said shows an average of 10 people a day died while waiting for a decision on their personal independence payment (PIP) claim over a five-year period

      so the dwp has killed 16800 ppl in 5 years just waiting.

      4,760 claimants died between the DWP referring their case to, and it returning from, an assessment provider.
      73,800 claimants died within 6 months of registering their claim.
      17,070 claimants died after registering but prior to the DWP making a decision on their claim.
      The total number of PIP claimants who died topped 95,000. But Newton’s response does not indicate at what stage of their claim the 73,800 people who died within six months of it being registered were at.

      https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2019/01/14/the-dwp-has-admitted-21000-people-died-waiting-for-benefits/

      the dwp is kicking the cv19 ass but no one gives a shit about that. 😉

      superted

      April 2, 2020 at 9:37 pm

      • Lots of datasets on death statistics to be found here:

        https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/

        *you need Excel (or similar programme) to open them

        ONS

        April 3, 2020 at 6:17 am

      • @superted

        I couldn’t have put it better myself. This whole thing and the government’s response to it has been blown out of all proportion.

        jj joop

        April 3, 2020 at 8:41 am

      • superted

        April 3, 2020 at 10:27 am

      • In 2018 1251 people died in Ipswich! That is quite a grim death toll. Why isn’t BBC FEAR reporting this tally 24/7.

        Sally from Ipswich

        April 4, 2020 at 8:18 am

  296. “ if you could hear at every jolt the blood come gargling from the froth corrupted lungs, obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud, of vile incurable sores on innocent tongues – my friend, you would not tell with such high zest, to children ardent for some desperate glory, the old lie, dulce et decorum est., pro patria mori.“

    – Wilfred Owen

    Wilfred Owen (A Random Poet)

    April 3, 2020 at 7:25 am

  297. BENEFITS BOOST Universal credit and benefit debt repayments paused during coronavirus crisis giving extra cash to millions

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11319784/universal-credit-benefit-debt-repayments-paused-coronavirus-crisis-giving-extra-cash-to-millions/

    superted

    April 3, 2020 at 12:47 pm

  298. What’s happened to Trev? Is he still at the laundrette?

    Billy Boyne

    April 3, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    • I heard Jobcentre Plus had cinched him a temporary shelf-stacking job at Sainsbury’s.

      Sarf of the River

      April 4, 2020 at 11:42 am

  299. Benefits claimants are being invited to apply for jobs handing out Universal Credit as staff deal with an “unprecedented” number of claims.

    And staff at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) have been asked to refer friends and family for temporary roles as they work to process an “extraordinary” number of benefits applications.

    Almost 950,000 claims for Universal Credit (UC) have been processed since March 16 as the effects of Britain’s coronavirus lockdown begins to bite.

    The department has admitted that it is currently operating with “higher than normal” sickness rates as staff are sent home to self isolate either because of underlying health issues, because they are displaying symptoms of the virus, or for unrelated reasons. – Manchester Evening News

    Pete

    April 3, 2020 at 8:22 pm

  300. THE PRETENCE OF THE NEO-CON DOOMSDAY PANDEMIC IS WEARING THIN AS THE WISER OF OUR POPULUS BEGIN TO QUESTION THE FORCED HOUSE ARREST OF IT’S CITIZENS.

    A CAREFULLY CRAFTED RUSE WHERE NORMAL DEATHS ARE ATTRIBUTED TO A CERTAIN STRAIN OF VIRUS.

    WHY ARE YOU PAYING CAR TAX, RATES AND INSURANCE TO BE TOLD YOU CANNOT VENTURE OUT?

    THE HOAX HAS BEEN CLEVERLY CRAFTED SO THE MULTINATIONALS TAKE OVER EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE.
    FROM FOOD AND CLOTHING TO ACCOMMODATION AND TRAVEL, THEIR AIM IS TO DESTROY THE SMALL BUSINESS AND MOVE IT TO THE MERCHANTS OF GREED THAT DEVISED THIS PLOT TO MAKE YOUR LIVES EVEN MORE WORTHLESS.

    A FEW THOUSAND DEATHS IS MERELY COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO THE SHYSTERS WHO APPEAR VIA THE PROPAGANDA MEDIA OF THE LIKES OF THE BBC AND SKY…

    START TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND QUESTION THE WORTHLESS MORTALITY FIGURES THAT ARE BANDIED ABOUT.

    YOU ARE NOW LIVING UNDER A FASCIST STATE AND UNLESS YOU REACT ACCORDINGLY THEY WILL WALK ALL OVER YOU AND REMOVE EVERY LIBERTY AND FREEDOM YOU HAVE EVER FOUGHT FOR.

    NOTHING YOU HAVE WORKED ALL YOUR LIFE FOR WILL BE SPARED.
    YOUR SAVINGS, YOUR PENSION AND THE BRICKS YOU LIVE WITHIN WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOU.

    GROW SOME BOLLOCKS AND REBEL.

    Fiona Barnthorpe-Worthington

    April 3, 2020 at 9:07 pm

  301. Age is certainly no guide as to the coronavirus disease course, unless you want to use the virus to find out if you actually have an underlying health condition you were previously unaware of? A bit too much like playing Russian Roulette for most people.

    Batty

    April 3, 2020 at 10:31 pm

  302. According to the DWP the lack of the £20 a week increase to JSA was not borne out of spite and hatred for JSA claimants but because of “technical problems with ‘legacy’ Windows XP computers”. The question is: will JSA claimants receive a ‘windfall’ when these computer problems are finally sorted out? And how will the DWP overcome these hurdles with their computers to apply the 1.7% April rise to JSA?

    Kegs

    April 4, 2020 at 8:09 am

    • With millions of new universal credit claimants to deal with you can bet that nothing will be done to Jobseeker’s Allowance for the duration of the Covid-19 epidemic. Which looks set to last for more than twelve months meaning that JSA claimants will NEVER get a penny of the £1000.00 increase UC recipients got to enjoy. I’m already on UC and am looking forward to an increase big enough to pay for my electricity, water, council tax, phone and TV license with a little bit left over. Considering all the shit that I have had to put up with on UC I think that both me and all other people suffering under the harsh UC regime for so long deserve a thumper up much more than the JSA folk who get an easier ride.

      Catty

      April 4, 2020 at 11:40 am

  303. I haven’t been able to spend any time with my girlfriend for ten days, possibly more, since the self-isolation instruction came into force. If this goes on for much longer I”m going to have to resort to solitary vice to ease the hydraulic pressure building up downstairs. I’ve decided to post this confession here because, as far as I can see, most of you people are massive w*nkers already and wouldn’t mind another toss*r to your ranks.

    Get a f*ck*ng job you b@st@rds!

    Master Baker

    April 4, 2020 at 11:51 am

  304. Master Bater…who cares about your urges, have a w@nk and STFU!

    Tigerlily

    April 4, 2020 at 3:29 pm

  305. Master Bater… No one cares about your urges, go and have a w@nk and STFU!

    Tigerlily

    April 4, 2020 at 3:35 pm

  306. How can we get a job .we are not allowed out for interviews, Boris said so

    big birf

    April 4, 2020 at 4:07 pm

  307. no video interview s if you have no internet connection

    big bird

    April 4, 2020 at 8:01 pm

  308. tesco mobile has sent me a msg and say unlimited uk calls from 8pm to 8am and free week end calls until the 1 of June.

    no data or txt msgs tho but better than nothing like from the dwp!

    superted

    April 4, 2020 at 8:25 pm

  309. BT Basic + Broadband is now UNLIMITED 🙂 It has been mentioned that BT don’t even charge for excess usage anyway but still 🙂 Use all the data you like 😀

    Busby

    April 4, 2020 at 9:04 pm

  310. 👿 I’ll be back!! 👿 😀 😀

    The Ghost of Andrew Coates

    April 5, 2020 at 12:30 pm