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JobCentres to “Target” Homeless People.

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New government scheme will provide rough sleepers with help finding jobs.


Ipswich, like every town and city in the country, has had homeless people on the streets since the Tory government made it almost impossible for people with a variety of problems to get somewhere to live.

Every single day I see people begging in the streets.

There are piles of sleeping bags in the doorways round here and people sat on them.

Every single day the library has people come in and use the computers to help them get a roof over their head, or just somewhere to stay the night.

Now the Job Centre is going to help – no doubt by getting them to fill in Universal Credit (onLine only) applications and do a daily Job Search.

 CV tips will be very useful as well.

Jobcentre staff to target homeless people in new £3m government scheme

Welfare Weekly.

Charities say government should focus on the root causes of homelessness and invest in the benefits system.

Jobcentre staff are to take to the streets in a new government scheme designed to provide proactive employment support for homeless people and rough sleepers, the minister for welfare delivery Will Quince has announced.

Teams will work together with charities to locate homeless people who are currently not receiving back to work support from the Jobcentre and Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

The Sunday Observer reports that new £3 million scheme aims to help homeless people and rough sleepers find and keep secure employment, but it is not without its critics.

Official Government statistics published in December 2019 revealed that the number of households in England who are recognised as being homeless or at risk of becoming homeless rose by 11.4% over the last 12 months.

They continue,

Jon Sparkes, Chief Executive of the homelessness charity Crisis, told inews: “The DWP has an important role in preventing and ending homelessness.

“It’s essential that people forced to live on our streets and in temporary accommodation face no barriers to accessing benefits that can help them into a stable and secure home. We would welcome working with the government on this.

However, he also called on government to tackle the “root causes” of homelessness by investing in housing benefit and in building more affordable homes.

“Without these people will continue to have to choose between food and rent and end up being forced into homelessness”, he said.


This is one of the causes of homelessness.

The issue of local housing benefit (housing allowance) , meaning that full rents are often not covered, is a major cause of problems with accommodation.

“The data shows that the housing benefit shortfall, which is the amount of an individual’s rent not covered by housing benefit, equates to families having to give up at least a quarter of the national average weekly food shop for a small family in 70 of the country’s 152 ‘broad rental market areas’.

Broad rental market areas are designated by the government and are used to determine how much housing benefit private renters across the UK receive.

According to Crisis, central London has the highest housing benefit shortfall, as the average rent for the cheapest third of two-bedroom properties is £523.56 compared with a housing benefit rate of £320.74 – leaving a shortfall of £202.82. The average national weekly food shop for a small family (two adults and two children) is calculated at £59, meaning foregoing the weekly food shop will still not cover the shortfall for a London families.”


Written by Andrew Coates

January 13, 2020 at 10:33 am

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  1. Many of the homeless people I have spoken to have said they became homeless because they dropped out of the Benefits system after being Sanctioned for two years. People are homeless because the Social Security system is unfit for purpose, too punitive, too conditional and too difficult to navigate and comply with.


    January 13, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    • Exactly, the last thing they need is more threats of sanctions.

      Andrew Coates

      January 13, 2020 at 12:39 pm

      • And what are they going to do to these homeless people if they won’t engage with the Jobcentre ?
        Sanction them ?


        January 13, 2020 at 2:21 pm

      • The new DWP Policy introduced end of 2018 is that homeless people can now get Universal Credit. The reason the DWP policy works is that a homeless person is now an employment figure because everyone on UC is a employment figure with a job. Everyone at a homeless shelter will should be a employment figure all on UC. The homeless will now have to go to job interviews on get sanctioned but will still be on UC. A homeless person will never get of UC or get a job because they have not got new clothes to go to job interviews. Treated worst than a prisoner that has come out of prison. Of course it will be the DWPs contractor that gets the contract & a big ££ millions bonus for getting the Homeless onto UC. The homeless figures & employment figures are a multi billion £ business that the homeless can not stand in the way of corporate business.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 14, 2020 at 10:20 am

      • DWP Press Release 14th Jan 2020

        Jobcentres to receive new £3 million fund to support homeless people

        Jobcentres across the UK are to benefit from a boost of up to £3 million to support homeless people, Minister for Welfare Delivery Will Quince said today.

        The new funding will see jobcentre staff joining outreach teams on the streets to speak to people sleeping rough, helping them to claim their benefits, find new work, secure stable accommodation and direct them to additional support.

        Staff will be able to spend more time working with charities and other organisations to help people who are homeless, including those rough sleeping.

        The funding will also be used to bolster projects jobcentres are already working on with various organisations, such as the Salvation Army in Cardiff, Crisis in Edinburgh and Teardrops in St Helens, to support homeless claimants.

        Jobcentre staff could also be stationed in charity run day centres to advise those who use those services, but have not yet visited a jobcentre.

        Minister for Welfare Delivery Will Quince said:

        “We are determined to help anyone experiencing homelessness, and if this means getting staff out of the jobcentre to speak to people on the street directly then we will do that.

        “There’s a huge amount of support available to help people who are homeless, but they often don’t know about the support they can access. So we’re going out and taking the help to them, through outreach programmes and closer working with homelessness charities.”

        The work will build on the support already available from jobcentres for homeless people which includes:

        • helping verify their ID to set up claims for benefits
        • assisting with opening bank accounts
        • pausing requirements to look for work while they find stable housing
        • making regular payments to help pay for housing
        • signposting to drug, alcohol and other support services

        Minister for Homelessness, Luke Hall said:

        “As Minister for Homelessness, it’s my priority to ensure that we reduce all forms of homelessness and rough sleeping.

        “And while our interventions are working there is still more to do. Today’s announcement will mean homeless people get the support they need to get back on their feet and find new work.”

        The new funding, which will be delivered in 2020 to 2021, follows on from dedicated training given to hundreds of jobcentre managers last year on how best to support homeless claimants.

        It builds on the government’s introduction of the Homelessness Reduction Act in 2018. This sees English local authorities, public services and charities working together to actively prevent homelessness for people at risk, irrespective of whether they are a family or single person, the reason why they have been put at risk or whether, or not, they have a local connection to the area.

        The new funding will see jobcentre staff joining outreach teams on the streets to speak to people sleeping rough, helping them to claim their benefits, find new work, secure stable accommodation and direct them to additional support.

        Staff will be able to spend more time working with charities and other organisations to help people who are homeless, including those rough sleeping.

        The funding will also be used to bolster projects jobcentres are already working on with various organisations, such as the Salvation Army in Cardiff, Crisis in Edinburgh and Teardrops in St Helens, to support homeless claimants.

        Jobcentre staff could also be stationed in charity run day centres to advise those who use those services, but have not yet visited a jobcentre.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 14, 2020 at 10:36 am

      • Thanks for that.

        The “outreach teams”, nice touch!

        Andrew Coates

        January 14, 2020 at 11:14 am

      • Is that £3 Million per Jobcentre?


        January 14, 2020 at 1:13 pm

      • Job Centre Staff will now be in Food Banks.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 14, 2020 at 10:38 am

      • I don’t think Jobcentre staff will be in my local Foodbank, which is independent, not Trussel. I hope not anyway, I might stop volunteering if they are!


        January 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm

      • It’s interesting that you mentioned job interviews, Stepping. Job interviews are an expensive business especially if you are unemployed and don’t have the latest gear. Employers will notice your tatty, cheap, ill-fitting out-of-date garb. It is all about impressions, especially first impressions The all important presentation. It is the interviewees that dazzle that get the job. Not the tramp no matter how much they are well versed. For a jobseeker it means you have to keep refreshing your interview wardrobe even though you might only land and interview every six months, once a year even. Your clothes are going to be well out of style within six months to a year. It can cost hundreds of pounds just to go to ONE interview. Or even a four figure sum for many jobs.. In fact if you want to dress well enough to get a run-of-the-mill job you wont get any change out a thousand pounds. It is how employers sift the wheat from the tramps (chaff).
        Of course dressing like a tramp will do you a big favour if the Jobcentre ‘send’ you for a job you don’t want.

        Worzel Gummidge

        January 14, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      • @Worzel – Perhaps the Job centre will be giving out £1,000 loans to get a new wardrobe so homeless people can get job interviews. How much food can you get for £1,000 job centre !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 14, 2020 at 1:05 pm

      • The Jobcentre ‘encourage’ their staff to ‘volunteer’ i.e. as a paid for skive/jolly/secondment/outreach in places like foodbanks. You very well could see one of them turn up in your local foodbank. They want their staff stationed out in the community. You won’t be able to volunteer without being under the beady eye of the Jobcentre,

        Job Centre Insider

        January 14, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      • Since the job centre staff are on universal Credit their work coach who has to see their work coach are all threatened with sanctions unless they do unpaid volunteer work for the job centre aka DWP.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 14, 2020 at 1:44 pm

      • DWP Press Release 14th Jan 2020


        The latest homeless support funding was allocated to DWP as part of the 2019 Spending Round process. On December 23 2019, the Prime Minister announced £263 million of funding for local authorities to support people who are homeless or at risk of losing their homes.

        The funding will empower councils across England to provide the best services for local needs, helping those experiencing homelessness in their area to improve their lives and get back on their feet. Councils can use the funding to employ specialists to provide practical advice to vulnerable people to help ensure they are meeting their rent payments, as well as helping them to find long-term stable accommodation.

        Last year, the Department for Work and Pensions developed training for jobcentre Customer Service Managers with guidance from expert organisations, including Crisis, Homeless Link and Shelter. The training is aimed at ensuring people experiencing homelessness, and those at risk of becoming homeless, get access to all relevant services offered by the department.

        As part of this, managers also act as a point of contact for partner homelessness organisations in their local area, focusing on building relationships with them and ensuring people are signposted appropriately to additional, expert support.

        The government is committed to increasing the supply of social housing and has made £9 billion available through the Affordable Homes Programme to March 2022 to deliver approximately 250,000 new affordable homes of a wide range of tenures, including social rent.

        This government introduced the Homelessness Reduction Act, the most ambitious legislative reform in decades, in 2018. This sees English local authorities, public services and charities working together to actively prevent homelessness for people at risk, irrespective of whether they are a family or single person, the reason why they have been put at risk or whether, or not, they have a local connection to the area.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 14, 2020 at 1:52 pm

  2. As @trev says, the cruelty of the benefit system and its harsh sanctions are the reason many people lose their homes. Also the considerable gap between Local Housing Allowance and realistic rent. People just can’t keep juggling their money, and they give up and end on the streets.

    Jeff Smith

    January 13, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    • Something needs to be done there’s a number of growing people on the street’s including where they never appeared before.Anyone can become homeless and that can be for a number of reasons’.

      It needs to be looked into why this is happening.If someone has nothing people will leave them alone and todays culture of people on benefits becoming targeted isn’t helping.

      People just can’t keep juggling their money, and they give up and end on the streets.

      Thats very true the person breaks under the stress and has to end up somewhere,the street could be safer then where they are already living and that also can be for a number of reasons’.

      Lord Freud

      January 14, 2020 at 1:50 am

  3. The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with “a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty”.


    Cloward and Piven were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was outlined in a May 1966 article in the liberal magazine The Nation titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty”.

    The two stated that many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would strain local budgets, precipitating a crisis at the state and local levels that would be a wake-up call for the federal government, particularly the Democratic Party. There would also be side consequences of this strategy, according to Cloward and Piven. These would include: easing the plight of the poor in the short-term (through their participation in the welfare system); shoring up support for the national Democratic Party-then splintered by pluralistic interests (through its cultivation of poor and minority constituencies by implementing a national “solution” to poverty); and relieving local governments of the financially and politically onerous burdens of public welfare (through a national “solution” to poverty)

    Cloward and Piven’s article is focused on forcing the Democratic Party, which in 1966 controlled the presidency and both houses of the United States Congress, to take federal action to help the poor. They stated that full enrollment of those eligible for welfare “would produce bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments” that would: “…deepen existing divisions among elements in the big-city Democratic coalition: the remaining white middle class, the working-class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor. To avoid a further weakening of that historic coalition, a national Democratic administration would be constrained to advance a federal solution to poverty that would override local welfare failures, local class and racial conflicts and local revenue dilemmas.”

    They further wrote:
    “ The ultimate objective of this strategy—to wipe out poverty by establishing a guaranteed annual income—will be questioned by some. Because the ideal of individual social and economic mobility has deep roots, even activists seem reluctant to call for national programs to eliminate poverty by the outright redistribution of income. ”

    Michael Reisch and Janice Andrews wrote that Cloward and Piven “proposed to create a crisis in the current welfare system – by exploiting the gap between welfare law and practice – that would ultimately bring about its collapse and replace it with a system of guaranteed annual income. They hoped to accomplish this end by informing the poor of their rights to welfare assistance, encouraging them to apply for benefits and, in effect, overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy.”
    Focus on Democrats

    The authors pinned their hopes on creating disruption within the Democratic Party:

    “Conservative Republicans are always ready to declaim the evils of public welfare, and they would probably be the first to raise a hue and cry. But deeper and politically more telling conflicts would take place within the Democratic coalition…Whites – both working class ethnic groups and many in the middle class – would be aroused against the ghetto poor, while liberal groups, which until recently have been comforted by the notion that the poor are few… would probably support the movement. Group conflict, spelling political crisis for the local party apparatus, would thus become acute as welfare rolls mounted and the strains on local budgets became more severe.”
    Reception and criticism

    Michael Tomasky, writing about the strategy in the 1990s and again in 2011, called it “wrongheaded and self-defeating”, writing: “It apparently didn’t occur to [Cloward and Piven] that the system would just regard rabble-rousing black people as a phenomenon to be ignored or quashed.”
    Impact of the strategy

    In papers published in 1971 and 1977[6], Cloward and Piven argued that mass unrest in the United States, especially between 1964 and 1969, did lead to a massive expansion of welfare rolls, though not to the guaranteed-income program that they had hoped for.[7] Political scientist Robert Albritton disagreed, writing in 1979 that the data did not support this thesis; he offered an alternative explanation for the rise in welfare caseloads.

    In his 2006 book Winning the Race, political commentator John McWhorter attributed the rise in the welfare state after the 1960s to the Cloward–Piven strategy, but wrote about it negatively, stating that the strategy “created generations of black people for whom working for a living is an abstraction”.

    According to historian Robert E. Weir in 2007: “Although the strategy helped to boost recipient numbers between 1966 and 1975, the revolution its proponents envisioned never transpired.”



    January 13, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    • What has that got to do with Britain – Load of Crap.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 14, 2020 at 10:23 am

  4. Kudos to the girl on the homeless street team who contacted animal rescue to come and collect a baby pigeon that had taken unwell.


    January 13, 2020 at 2:30 pm

  5. I suspect the real reason the homeless are going to be targeted for the magical jokeshop experience is because they are off the government’s radar, no address, bank account, mobile, email address etc… so once they’re on UC the b@stards will be able to keep them under surveillance just like the rest of us!


    January 13, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    • @Tigerlilly – It’s Tory ideology as well. They look at the homeless and think they are skiving. Because most of them are not working.


      January 14, 2020 at 3:48 pm

  6. What happened to Christmas/New Year at the Jobcentre? Not one decoration, not one card on display. No mention from coachy, just a leaflet to say when your benefits will be paid over the ‘holiday period’ like any other bank holiday.


    January 13, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    • @ Ella

      I had to attend a JSA group signing and “information” session just before Christmas, and when I walked in I asked the Adviser where the free mince pies were, adding that I was expecting there would be some, he just said “the DWP doesn’t run to mince pies”.


      January 14, 2020 at 1:09 pm

  7. Honestly, I don’t believe that any of the world powers are enemies. You know how “reality” TV shows always have a bunch of drama going on? As I’m sure you know, it’s not actually real. The producers manipulate things in order to create conflict. That’s what sells. The producers of earth’s “reality” do this on a global scale. They are laughing all the way to the bank, which they own.

    Hong Konkey

    January 13, 2020 at 11:44 pm

  8. The nail in the coffin for homeless people with the Tories making millions in the process.. Now the Tories blame their contractor & the Tories contractor blames the Tories whilst million of £ are made.


    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 14, 2020 at 10:26 am

  9. Rough sleepers live in tents outside Camden Town tube station

    Council says it is trying to provide ‘life-changing support’

    CNJ – 9th Jan 2020

    COUNCIL chiefs say they are trying to help rough sleepers who are living in tents
    outside Camden Town Underground Station.

    Passers-by contacted the CNJ to say they were concerned about the size of the camp, which grew over the holiday period, and whether the people inside needed more help.

    Communities chief Councillor Nadia Shah said: “Camden Council is aware of the people sleeping rough around Camden Town station and we are working with the individuals there to assess their needs and determine a route away from rough sleeping, though it can often take time before people feel ready to accept a service offer.”

    She added: “Like other London boroughs we continue to see high levels of new people sleeping rough on our streets. However, we remain committed to tackling the injustice of rough sleeping and ensuring that people who are homeless or at risk receive life-changing support.”

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 14, 2020 at 10:28 am

    • Now the councils are providing the help of Universal Credit.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 14, 2020 at 10:30 am

  10. Jobcentre Alert !! At the local Jokeshop this morning. JSA people on long 20 min signings, and being given the run around to ‘look for alternatives’ in their jobsearch. They are really after the last legacy JSA claimants. I heard the Workies are under pressure to clear the lists of JSA claimants as fast as they can.


    January 14, 2020 at 3:42 pm

    • im in and out in less than 5mins lol tho every one else is being sent here there and everywhere provider wise.

      they treat me completely different to everyone else tho as i wont listen to there crap anymore and i even got 2 weeks of over Christmas and they was open so could have signed on.

      tho the time b4 that i did ask if i could sign annually and he said what do i mean pmsl i said 1 time per year. 😉


      January 14, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    • I signed on last week and I was in and out in 5 minutes.

      jj joop

      January 14, 2020 at 4:28 pm

      • they only pick on the easy targets that wont fight back or say no and they sure as hell wont try it to me after last time i got my work coach sacked and its floor manager for braking there own rules and regs. 😉


        January 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm

  11. A lot of long-term unemployed people have serious financial problems, that prevent them taking up employment. If you have been long-term unemployed, and have exhausted all your savings. Have nothing left but a few pounds a day after you have paid your rent. Then this money is your basic, food and electricity money. So if you took up a job, paid at the end of the month, how could you possibly afford a month’s bus or train fare ? How could you afford to get to the job and still be able to eat food, or have the electricity on at home ? I’ve heard Work Coaches suggest that the unemployed person gets a job, and then asks for an advance on their monthly salary ! Before they have even started work. As if any company or agency would do this. It’s nonsense. Before the cuts, there were loans available to jobseekers, and even a £100 job-finding grant to help you get started. This seems like a different world now. But the need is still very much there, no matter how much the DWP deny it. And I have lost count of the people who have said to me,’ if I take this job, how am I going to make it until the end of the month ‘ ?

    Jeff Smith

    January 14, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    • @Jeff, Very true mate. They know what the real situation is right enough. But they just can’t admit it – so they pretend it isn’t happening instead. You get no help at all these days.


      January 14, 2020 at 5:16 pm

  12. The length of time between signings should increase with the length of unemployment. It is plain stupid making the long-term unemployed signi on every fortnight. Once a year would be enough then up to once every five years and then you would reach a point in your claim where you didn’t have to ever sign on again. It would save on DWP resources thus saving taxpayers money. This money-saving suggestion is being put out for FREE to the DWP and Therese Coffee or whoever is in charge.

    Margarite Sater

    January 14, 2020 at 4:39 pm

    • they will make you go every day if you are stupid enough to pay the bus fair or live round the corner from there office.

      problem is if it is not the day you sign on then they have to pay travel costs.

      they tried it with me long ago until the next Monday when i gave them £30 of bus tickets for there grand plan and they said id have to wait a week for it and said no chance im out of pocket big time and got it paid the same day in the end.

      never tried that one again either.


      January 14, 2020 at 4:51 pm

      • @superted: But how is it that they have never got you then superted ? Is it that you know all the rules and such ?

        Pete M.

        January 14, 2020 at 5:18 pm

      • they have tried 29 sanction doubts over the last ten years and never got one to stick i know what they are going to do b4 they do.

        i have also not been to any provider in the last ten years either other than the induction where i point blank refuse to sign any contracts and thus stop there funding and im out the door 😉

        i have piles of foi requests to counter any of there bs they try so they just dont bother anymore with me.


        January 14, 2020 at 5:35 pm

      • and if you are on jsa under no circumstances give them a email address as when it is time to migrate to uc this will be used to set up the journal.

        a foi request shows this is there plan for migration time and to bs you to use the journal and once you click on the cc there is no going back as you have accepted it.



        January 14, 2020 at 8:47 pm

      • They used to photocopy my paper journal until I stuck this FoI reply under their noses, and they soon backed off.

        jj joop

        January 14, 2020 at 11:13 pm

  13. There are about 2.5 million people receiving Universal Credit – made up from those migrated from the original live system, new claimants and people on legacy benefits whose circumstances have changed – with some 5 million still to be migrated from legacy benefits onto the new UC system. Not all people on UC have to attend the Jobcentre for appointments with Work Coaches but many will. In my Jobcentre Work Coach appointments have been cut to 15 minutes every fortnight and so unless the DWP takes on thousands of new staff and trains them to be Work Coaches how will the Jobcentres be able to cope when mass migration of those on legacy benefits resumes next July 2020 meaning that many, very many more people will have to have regular meetings with Work Coaches on a regular basis?

    Click to access 1762.pdf

    Unless of course interaction between claimant and Work Coach took place primarily via the Universal Credit journal, which would be even worse and definitely lead to more personal disaster and catastrophe.


    January 14, 2020 at 6:16 pm

  14. Hi trev, Tom is busy right now and can’t answer your question right away but will get back to you as soon as possible.

    Have a nice day, Tom’s secretary

    Tom's secretary

    January 14, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    • @tom’s secretary – Thank you Miss Wright, and may I say how attractive you look today ?

      Tom Sutton

      January 15, 2020 at 12:17 pm

      • Yes, you may, Tom 🙂 I am so flattered 🙂 *flutters eyelashes*

        Miss Wright (Tom's secretary & PA)

        January 15, 2020 at 12:58 pm

  15. Have you ever noticed how when a Work Coach is trying it on, they go strangely silent ? A guy I saw on JSA being offered a completely unsuitable job by his workcoach, zero-hours etc. ‘How about this ?’ She goes innocently. As if waiting for him to fall for it. It’s like a constant game of Work Coach versus Claimant.

    Jeff Smith

    January 15, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    • The fortnightly showdown between Claimant and Work Coach (Dole Clerk) is almost like a game of chess, or like seeing who blinks first. It serves no real purpose other than to make the Claimant’s life as stressful as possible. They rarely give me any jobs to apply for, and when they have those jobs have been completely unsuitable. Mostly they just put me on the spot by asking stupid questions, why do I think I’m not getting any of the jobs I’ve applied for is a regular question, or why am I not getting any interviews? etc. But then they refuse to accept my answers, that the employers want younger people who are fitter and able to work faster, they want people who have been in recent employment, they want people who live nearer or have their own transport. If the job description says “fast paced environment” they don’t want people over 50. Have I tried the agencies? Yes, and they have nothing to offer me. I have been rejected by agencies after completing a health questionnaire. And so it goes on, over and over again. The latest thing they are saying is that everyone needs to be in “Provision”. They said that to me whilst I was still on the Right Steps To Work course, and a few weeks after I finished they sent me on an Interserve ’employability’ course to do the same stuff over again. Now they are trying to twist everyone’s arms into registering with some other bullshit called ‘Works Better’. It never ends.


      January 15, 2020 at 1:07 pm

      • And like chess you must never give the Dole Clerk a material or positional advantage 😉 Checkmate!


        January 15, 2020 at 1:16 pm

      • trev if they send you to the new provider say you will participate but will not sign any 3rd party paperwork/contracts.

        show this to your work coach and provider.

        and then tell them any sanction that comes about because you will not sign 3rd party contracts will result in gross misconduct on the part of the dwp own rules and regs in the above foi.

        providers only become mandatory once you sign there contracts so dont do it all you are to them is a profit unit.


        January 15, 2020 at 2:19 pm

      • Sounds like they are just trying it on Trev. Half of these courses are voluntary. If you told them nothing doing, they might leave you alone.


        January 15, 2020 at 4:26 pm

  16. @Superted _ But superted, if someone tries on this stuff don’t they just get sanctioned ?


    January 15, 2020 at 12:03 pm

  17. @superted, But what if the Jobcentre already know your email from your CV ?


    January 15, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    • my email is not on my cv i use job sites like total jobs and upload my cv so it is sent to every job i apply for on line so get email receipts for every job.


      the dwp do not need email address or phone numbers to claim any benefits as it is your personal data and up to you to share it or not it can not be forced same as providing job searches.


      January 15, 2020 at 1:08 pm

  18. ‘ Momentum sends members a Labour leadership ballot with Rebecca Long-Bailey as the only option .’
    WTF ? Stalinism in action. We must root out this behaviour from the Labour Party.

    Tom Sutton

    January 15, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    • Ah, the elusive Tom Sutton popping up again with Political comments on an Unemployment blog. But seeing as you’re here, how about answering my question? If, as you assert, Labour lost the election because of Corbyn’s poor leadership and indecision, how/why does that mean that Labour needs to move further to the Right and away from Socialist policies? As the two things don’t seem to be related.


      January 15, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      • I’m ever so sorry, trev but Tom is away on business for the rest of the day but let me assure you that he will reach out to you on his return, Have a nice day, Miss Wright (Tom’s secretary & PA)

        Miss Wright (Tom's secretary & PA)

        January 15, 2020 at 1:02 pm

      • @trev – Tom has asked me to reply on his behalf with this quotation from an article by Tony Blair in Sunday’s Observer. ‘The proximate cause of defeat was not complicated or hard to see, but simple and in plain sight. We put forward a leader and a manifesto that voters thought unacceptable to such a degree that many were repelled. Too extreme economically. Anti-western. Lacking in patriotism. And therefore dangerous.

        No serious political party does such a thing. No serious political party, once it has done it, fails to rectify it. Even as the public settle into five years of Tory government, they are half listening to what is happening with the Labour party. The minimum they must hear is: we get that it was the rejection of a political position and not just a leader. If we can’t go that far, we will have lost the next election within weeks of losing the last.

        The culture of winning has the following characteristics:

        Start with a ruthless, hard-headed analysis of political reality. Progressives win from the centre. We can decide that now or waste another four elections before we decide it later. But the centre does not mean the status quo. The confusion is the left’s insistence that “radical” means traditional left policy, but just more of it; the alternative being a “moderate” version, meaning less of it. The first is radical without being realistic; the second is realistic without being radical.’

        Miss Wright (Tom's secretary & PA)

        January 15, 2020 at 9:38 pm

      • Fuck Tony Blair


        January 15, 2020 at 10:19 pm

      • Jeremy Corbyn was fucked over by the so called Labour Party.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:21 pm

      • Israel are the terrorists – What has got to do with Jews. Just take a history look at the treatment of the Ethiopians Jews & how they were treated by the Right Wing Jewish Israel State. Israel says certain Jews are not proper Jews.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:27 pm

      • So there is no misunderstanding Israel are terrorists against Jews.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:29 pm

      • It is the same as a disabled person giving out so called Disability Hate Crime – What a right wing fuck up.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:31 pm

      • Tony Blair: Won three successive general elections. Achievements: Under Blair Labour significantly reduced child poverty and pensioners’ poverty, introduced the national minimum wage, low pay commission, created Sure Start and tax credits. Labour invested in the NHS and schools, created the Human Rights Act and introduced devolution. Under Blair the deficit was maintained at a low rate prior to the financial crash compared to what it is now. We had more teachers and nurses and the welfare system wasn’t the threadbare net it’s been reduced to today.

        Jeremy Corbyn: Second worst defeat for Labour since 1935, against the worst Tory government ever. Achievements: Put the Labour party on the slippery slope of decline and helped the philandering and dishonest Boris Johnson gain a large majority and safe tenure of 10 Downing Street for ten years and Tory leaders for more years. On the bright side but at least wasn’t caught on film tripping over in the sea like Neil Kinnock… so these’s that… see… it could actually have been even worse than it was.


        January 16, 2020 at 11:28 am

      • Tony Blair ramped-up Conditionality in Unemployment Benefit and introduced Sanctions, introduced student loans, didn’t build enough (any?) Council houses, and lead us into the Iraq War. He continued where Thatcher left off, his neoliberal policies have lead to the problems we have today, which the current crop of Tories have built upon. Corbyn, on the other hand, offered an alternative so you really should have listened and voted for him.


        January 16, 2020 at 11:45 am

      • Blair also had the audacity to re-write Clause iv (part 4) of the Socialist Manifesto!


        January 16, 2020 at 3:41 pm

      • @ trev

        You forgot to mention two of the worst things that happened under Blair, namely the UK’s involvement in Afghani and Iraqi wars and expedited the loss of most of Labour’s remaining MP’s in Scotland. That said although I wouldn’t welcome the Blairites back I would prefer Labour to moderate and make itself more electable than remain ideologically pure and never win another general election: I would much rather have a Labour government with the power to do SOME good rather than a Labour party that promises the earth and yet gets repeatedly rejected by the general public time after time. (When the next general election comes around Labour won’t have won a general election for twenty years.) A more cosmetically “blue collar” flavour of the Conservative party represents a real and present existential threat to the future of the Labour party and what we need now is a much more capable, charismatic and, yes, wily and Machiavellian leader, supported by a competent and trustworthy shadow cabinet, with a policy agenda that is persuasive, realistic and popular. If something along those lines doesn’t happen Labour’s support in England and Wales could end up going the way of Scotland and seats lost to the Tories in England and Wales become as impossible to win back as Labour’s former stronghold north of the border and Labour will be finished.

        And when I hear people like Rebecca Long Bailey rating Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership at “ten out of ten” when he led the party to its worst electoral defeat for EIGHTY FOUR YEARS I feel like putting my head in my hand and weeping. Pray God the next leader of the party, hopefully not Rebecca, isn’t in such a hurry as she seems to be to take us all over the cliff edge to oblivion.


        January 16, 2020 at 8:13 pm

      • How about Richard Burgon as leader?


        January 16, 2020 at 8:34 pm

      • Richard Burgon? Frying pan into the fire? Absolutely not. He’s standing for the Deputy Leadership anyway isn’t he. I would prefer Keir Starmer (personable, legally expert and academic with a good brain) or Lisa Nandy (personable, warm, grounded with a good heart) personally because I think that are the Heineken candidates who could reach parts of the electorate that the three other candidates won’t be able to. Although Starmer and Nandy are both standing for the leadership Starmer and Nandy as leader and deputy leader, respectively, would be a darn good team in my opinion.


        January 17, 2020 at 9:09 am

      • Oh well, I think Burgon is a good guy, him and Lavery would be a great combination.


        January 17, 2020 at 11:06 am

      • Burgon IS a good guy but a good guy who could never in a millions years garner enough appeal among unaligned and apolitical voters to win enough support to cinch a Labour victory. Just like Corbyn before him there’s nothing wrong with Burgon as a person although I would bet that, just like Corbyn, a large majority voters could never be persuaded that he was a fit person to ever become Prime Minister. Elections should be about policies rather than personalities but they simply aren’t and if the leader of a political party can’t win a prime ministerial beauty contest and persuade enough voters that he she has the competence, character and charisma to be PM the game is over for them before it begins.


        January 17, 2020 at 1:18 pm

  19. This is weird, I just got a text 30 mins. ago from the DWP saying that I have an appointment at the Jobcentre at 1.00pm on the 17th, but I last signed on the 7th and my next appointment (which I have in writing) is on the 21st at 9.00am. Wonder what they’re on about? To make matters worse I was about to set off down the Jobcentre to enquire but I fell over in my flat and have twisted my foot! Bugger.


    January 15, 2020 at 2:19 pm

    • now if you never gave them ur Mobil number this would never happen 😉

      make sure you get the travel cost reimbursed as it is not your signing day. they wont like that either lol


      January 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm

      • Assuming I can walk I’ll be in town tomorrow so I’ll call in and see what they’re on about. I think it’s a mistake.


        January 15, 2020 at 3:04 pm

      • or you are going to get the marching orders to another provider for induction.

        now it is mandatory you attend for that day and time but nothing else. if you do sign there contract that is when it will become mandatory for the hole time of the course and they will be able to refer sanctions to the dwp! if you fail to attend.


        January 15, 2020 at 3:54 pm

  20. Some people find it difficult to defy the Jobcentre. Which is how they get away with so much stuff against the claimant. But if Trev keeps going like this, they’ll just start making stuff up for him to do.
    He could empty out the wastepaper baskets in the Jobcentre. Sharpen all the pencils. Clean the computer screens. Make tea and coffee for the Work Coaches. There are loads of of things when you think about it.


    January 15, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    • it wont be at any job centre it does not work like that but what will come up is the work and health programme and thats a 2 year stint like the last one.

      you sign that and prepare for 6 month stints on workfare down pound land or a charity shop and you cant refuse it either as you signed on the dotted line so dont 😉


      January 15, 2020 at 7:47 pm

      • so was i allowed to participate no why because they wont get there money for it it is as simple as that.


        remember it is nothing to do with me how they are funded its not my problem dwp rules and regs state like above foi i am not required to sign 3rd party paperwork/contracts for funding purposes under threats of sanctions.

        they still sanctioned me anyway but they wont be doing that ever again as they both unlawfully sanctioned me and the provider was sharing my data with 3rd party as well according to the enrollment form.

        the its in my hands was a confidence boosting course and when they asked me to leave i said im not going anywhere until i got the letter above or to phone the police to remove me.

        and then the provider lied again to bad the lms records everything pmsl.


        and the original letter said why i was sent there was for a skills assessment and did not happen all everyone got was the paper work slapped on the table and to sign it and they will fill in the rest if needed or else same as every place i have ever been sent.

        it was 2hrs 2 days a week for 4 weeks so 16hrs total and it cost £1200 and 10 in a class so 12k.


        January 15, 2020 at 8:34 pm

      • @superted, – Superted, you really give them some stick don’t you ? But what about the sanction, they must have sanctioned you to the max for this.

        Ken B.

        January 15, 2020 at 9:29 pm

      • DSC_0693_01

        the sanction was for 4 weeks i got a budgeting loan to cover this as i done the mr over the phone because i wanted to go to a tribunal and prove once and for all no one can force you to sign anything.

        after 10 mins at tribunal i got this. 1 week later i got the sanctioned benefits back.



        January 15, 2020 at 9:47 pm

      • @superted – They can refuse a tribunal.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:15 pm

      • not on a point of law they cant they was bang right out of order and trying everything they could to get me sanctioned only problem is it back fired big time i set them up to fail as could not loose 😉


        January 15, 2020 at 10:30 pm

      • Problem is superted if you are fighting a point of law there is not Legal Aid.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:32 pm

      • You can only go so far – The DWP will send the Police around.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:35 pm

      • The DWP control the Disabled with the Police – The DWP need to be highlighted for a policy of control of the disabled. Now DWP let’s start again with Human Rights Violations & imprisonment to kill off disabled people.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 10:48 pm

      • How to appeal

        Before you can appeal to the tribunal you must ask for the decision about your benefits to be looked at again – this is called ‘mandatory reconsideration’.

        Appeal to the tribunal within one month of getting your mandatory reconsideration decision. If you start your appeal after a month you’ll have to explain why you did not do it earlier. Your appeal might not be accepted.

        After you submit your appeal, you can provide evidence to the tribunal. Your appeal will be decided at a tribunal hearing.


        If the DWP choose to refuse mandatory reconsideration for an appeal that is a vetting system which is illegal. The whole DWP mandatory reconsideration policy is Human Rights Violations of an appeal system.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    • Trev need not worry. With less immigrant labour coming to the country my bet is that Boris will get him into work in a nice, clean and safe job packing crockery, biscuits or whatever giving him a few bob in his pocket, some social contact with sane and various people (other than Momentum types) and improve his mental health and outlook on life generally.

      Win, win, win, win.

      Good news deserves repeating!


      January 16, 2020 at 11:37 am

      • They don’t want people my age to pack biscuits as I wouldn’t be fast enough, they want younger people, and people with their own transport who can work the required shifts. Even if I got an interview I wouldn’t get past the health questionnaire. But thanks for your concern Stan.


        January 16, 2020 at 11:51 am

      • Trev, mate, don’t sell yourself short. All sorts of people work these days. Blind people work, terminally ill people work, paraplegics and even quadriplegic people work. Don’t lose faith. For everybody there’s a job and a job for everybody. That’s what the government says and, based on my own experience, I think they’re right. One day someone, somewhere, will find a nice little bolthole or niche that you can occupy. Keep the faith, bro, and don’t let your current situation wear you down. All you need to do is to find the lock that fits your key.

        Rachel J.

        January 16, 2020 at 12:08 pm

      • Well they’d better hurry up because I’ve only got another 7 years left to Retirement, at which point they can stick their jobsearch where the sun don’t shine. That’s if I live that long.


        January 16, 2020 at 12:49 pm

  21. Rough sleeper who died waiting for an ambulance in ‘wealthy’ Wembley Park sparks review

    Brent & Kilburn Times [London] – 15th Jan 2020

    A rough sleeper died after waiting two hours for an ambulance – leading to criticism of homeless services.

    London Ambulance Service was called to Heron House, in Wembley Hill Road, just after 5pm on December 10 to reports of a man unwell and assigned it as a “category three response”.

    The service is reviewing the case after crews arrived at around 7.20pm

    A spokesperson said: “By the time we had arrived the man’s condition had clearly deteriorated and he had sadly died. We prioritise all of our calls based on patients’ individual needs at the time of the call and callers are given clear advice about ringing 999 again if the condition of the patient changes.”

    Zerine Tata, chair of a nearby residents’ association, said: “[Brent Council] informed me that regulations state that they do not have to provide extra beds until the temperature goes down to zero. How many rough sleepers have to die before the council takes this matter seriously? There has been an increase in rough sleepers in Wembley and when we are alerted by a resident of where they have been seen, the help we can give them is so limited and fills us with helplessness and frustration.”

    Ms Tata said there are no hostels in Wembley for rough sleepers, adding: “The longer they are sleeping out, especially in winter, could make them very ill and if not attended to at the time, they could very easily die.

    “The Civic Centre could provide a direct service of help and support for rough sleepers during the day, in conjunction with the outreach services.”

    Cllr Ellie Southwood, Brent’s lead member for housing and welfare reform, said: “We were extremely saddened to learn of the death of a man sleeping

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 15, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    • 2020 Tory Britain.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 15, 2020 at 9:04 pm

  22. On behalf of the management at Superted’s Jobcentre, I would like to offer our profound and total apologies for the way in which we behaved to him. Some of our staff are not blessed with perhaps the intelligence that one would hope for. Nevertheless, this was no excuse for the way in which we treated Superted. He was right, we broke the rules, And then we cruelly sanctioned him. Knowing even then, that we were doing wrong. We humble beg Superted’s forgiveness for our arrogance, so typical of the DWP. Our stupidity, so typical of overzealous Work Coaches, trying to ingratiate themselves with their superiors. All in the toxic and hostile culture, the cursed environment, in which we work. May Superted find it in his heart to forgive us, unworthy as we are.

    Jobcentre Manager

    January 15, 2020 at 10:50 pm

    • Are you saying sorry to 200,000 DWP deaths since 2010 job centre on behalf of the DWP or the Tory Party?

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 15, 2020 at 10:55 pm

      • No case here they have admitted a crime so DWP are guilty without trial.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 11:00 pm

      • I can get the Police now to charge the DWP for a crime.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 15, 2020 at 11:01 pm

  23. On behalf of the management at Superted’s Jobcentre, I would like to offer our profound and total apologies for the way in which we behaved to him. Some of our staff are not blessed with perhaps the intelligence that one would hope for. Nevertheless, this was no excuse for the way in which we treated Superted. He was right, we broke the rules, And then we cruelly sanctioned him. Knowing even then, that we were doing wrong. We humble beg Superted’s forgiveness for our arrogance, so typical of the DWP. Our stupidity, so typical of overzealous Work Coaches, trying to ingratiate themselves with their superiors. All in the toxic and hostile culture, the cursed environment, in which we work. May Superted find it in his heart to forgive us, unworthy as we are.




    January 15, 2020 at 11:15 pm

  24. Worth reading:

    Andrew Coates

    January 16, 2020 at 11:20 am

    • It’s like eugenics, or Darwinism. Once you start providing social services on the basis of profit-making, rather than simple need, you enter a very dangerous situation. Profit is driven by logic, not compassion. The cold logic of what makes the most money, as opposed to what costs the most.

      Jeff Smith

      January 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm

  25. Universal Credit, like the poor, will now and forever always be with us.

    Saint Matthew

    January 16, 2020 at 11:59 am

  26. ‘The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) have refunded ESA to 112,000 people who were owed it – but 5,000 of those people have already died in what Labour branded a ‘national scandal.’

    Jack Frost

    January 16, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    • You got there before me.

      It’s hard to think of anything more humiliating.

      Andrew Coates

      January 16, 2020 at 5:40 pm

      • Ain’t it just.


        January 16, 2020 at 5:43 pm

      • what happend at the joke center?


        January 16, 2020 at 5:55 pm

      • I didn’t go to the Jobcentre as my foot is hurting too bad, but I rang them instead and found out that I don’t have any appointment tomorrow,the text message was sent by mistake, though no one knows why.


        January 16, 2020 at 6:51 pm

      • … signed up with yet another provider 😀

        Chucky the Clown

        January 16, 2020 at 6:11 pm

      • trev get them to remove your phone number of the system next time you sign on and this will never happen again it is your personnel data and can be revoked at any time they can not refuse to do it per gdpr rules on personnel data and the dwp own regulations.

        i doubt you would get a letter in the post as they dont want paper trails to there errors done on purpose to basically harass you in to compliance and control.

        i broke my right upper arm in 2 places and went to sign on b4 i went to hospital and buy then even my hand was black and bruised and swollen.

        my work coach was of sick yet i still made it there when he could not, prob because he just did not want to see me pmsl.


        January 16, 2020 at 10:02 pm

      • The jobcentre call it ‘botherability’ i.e. basically harass you of off benefits.


        January 18, 2020 at 11:08 am

  27. Grenfell Tower inquiry

    Boris Johnson’s pick to help lead Grenfell inquiry linked to cladding firm

    Exclusive: Survivors and bereaved call Benita Mehra appointment ‘a slap in the face’

    Guardian – 16th Jan 2020

    Boris Johnson appointed a key figure to the Grenfell Tower inquiry who has links to the company which made the cladding blamed for accelerating the fatal fire, the Guardian can reveal.

    Last month, the prime minister picked Benita Mehra, an engineer, to assist Sir Martin Moore-Bick, a retired judge who is leading the inquiry into the disaster that claimed 72 lives. Mehra previously ran an organisation that received a £71,000 grant from the charitable arm of Arconic, the US conglomerate that made the aluminium composite cladding panels used on Grenfell.

    The inquiry has already found that Arconic’s polyethelyne-filled panels were “the principal reason why the flames spread so rapidly up the building”. The Arconic Foundation’s board of directors includes several senior Arconic executives and its stated goal is to support the company’s mission by making grants in countries where it trades.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 16, 2020 at 4:20 pm

  28. What’s going on with the “Emergency Work Programme” for the unemployed the Tories are considering?


    January 16, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    • What’s that? I’ve never heard of it. Is it a training programme for people who want to do work in Emergency services?


      January 16, 2020 at 6:47 pm

      • imo it is work coach bs 😉


        January 16, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      • Sounds swell 🙂 Where do I sign up?

        First Responder

        January 17, 2020 at 10:14 am

    • ♫ Nee-naw… Nee-naw… ♫

      Blues & Twos

      January 17, 2020 at 10:19 am

    • Summat to do with Brexit? State of Emergency and all that? Old Blighty urgently needing fruit-pickers? Jobcentre swings into action.


      January 17, 2020 at 10:35 am

  29. Labour could soon be wiped out entirely if party members agree to elect a new leader who “perpetuates Corbynism” despite the latest electoral defeat, former Labour MP Phil Wilson warned.


    January 17, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    • But what is “Corbynism” ? Surely it’s just Socialism, and that’s what we want, what we need, and what the Labour party is supposed to represent.


      January 17, 2020 at 1:22 pm

      • Corbynism is a bit like the TV series “Life on Mars” in which comatose brain-damaged individuals find themselves taken back to the 1970s where people drive Mark III Cortinas and wear kipper ties and flared trousers and British Leyland built the odd car or two when the company’s workforce wasn’t busy striking.

        Union Jack

        January 17, 2020 at 6:11 pm

      • Unlike Toryism, where impoverished starving people are denied State Benefits even if sick or disabled and are transported back to the 1870s where there were no Unions and no Workers Rights, and toffs in top hats walk past beggars in the streets and an untimely death in the Workhouse is the best the poor can hope for. There was a man who stood up against such abuses and offered change, his name was Jeremy Corbyn, and he was a Socialist.


        January 17, 2020 at 6:23 pm

      • The Tories are still shit scared of Corbyn because he will be joining in the Human Rights Violations by the Tories. Jeremy will now be presenting loads of evidence of Tory Human Rights violation. Scared Tories.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 7:26 pm

      • trev

        January 17, 2020 at 7:30 pm

      • That is why the Tories still see Corbyn as a threat like the disabled. Tories are really thick as shit like some bullshit Labour Party that fucked poor people over.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 7:28 pm

      • It was always about Tory Human Rights Violations & not politics. Bye bye Tories.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 7:29 pm

      • Criminal records scandal: police chiefs blame Theresa May

        Former home secretary accused of botched reforms that led to failures over foreign criminals

        Guardian – 15th Jan 2020

        Theresa May has been blamed by chief constables for botched police reforms that led to tens of thousands of alerts on foreign criminals being kept from their home countries.

        She is accused of “starving” the crucial police national computer (PNC) of money against advice from forces when she was home secretary, and instead pushing ahead with an ambitious and costly super-database to replace it that is now years behind schedule and millions of pounds over budget.

        Her decision is said to have led to serious problems developing with the “creaking” PNC – including its failure to send details of 75,000 foreign nationals convicted in the UK to their home countries, in a scandal revealed by the Guardian this week.

        The Home Office is now desperately trying to fix the software glitch that has gone unnoticed for five years, while May’s planned replacement system – known as the Law Enforcement Data Service (Leds) – is now due to cost £469m and will not be working fully until 2023.

        Read More:
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        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 7:35 pm

      • Also David Cameron is involved – See these criminal Tories going to prison. HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 7:37 pm

      • It was greedy bastard public sector workers and their bastard unions that was the cause of so much strife during the 1970s. Garbage left uncollected in the streets, dead bodies piling up, the electric being on only for a couple of hours a day like coming on at 4pm and going off at 6pm, sitting in the dark of a frozen winter’s evening with candles… The striking workers were very well-paid, they were just greedy bastards who wanted more and thought they could take advantage of a (weak) Labour Government. It took Mrs T to sort out the bloody unions. Now the boot is firmly on the employer’s foot. British Leyland is one of those places where working took a sleeping-bag in on the night shift. One worker would punch multiple workers clock in card, same with the newspaper printing presses until Eddie Shah came along, BT workers of old used to sleep through their shift too, you would have to order up a three-piece suite six times from the Littlewoods catalogue before you received one (the worker would steal them and furniture their own homes), post office and British Rail workers would kick parcels around until they bust open and stole the contents. Now we have Yodel and Deliveroo. Changed times, very changed times indeed.

        Life on Mars

        January 17, 2020 at 7:51 pm

      • @ Life on Mars

        Bollocks. The 70s were great. Unions are great. Corbyn was right. Go fuck yourself.


        January 17, 2020 at 8:21 pm

      • WAKE UP WE ARE IN 2020 not the 1970s & by the Way 200,000 DWP dead bodies have piled up on Tory Watch.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 7:54 pm

      • It was why we ended up with Thatcher for 18 YEARS! Greedy public sector workers were champing at the bit to take advantage of a Corbyn Government. Huge public sector pay rises. Massive inflation. Too bad if you are on a fixed income i.e. benefits. Then once Labour has been milked dry and brought the country to it’s knees in comes a Tory Government with more austerity paid for by the poor. That is the reality of a Corbyn government, Stepping and the electorate saw that.


        January 17, 2020 at 8:03 pm

      • @ Patsy

        It’s not Labour that brings the country to its knees, but the Tories always do. You’re talking shit.


        January 17, 2020 at 8:26 pm

      • What has that got to do with Human Rights Violations?

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 8:05 pm

      • It was a piece of cake to sign on in the 70s just sign ‘n’ go at the Unemployment Office. No ‘work coaches’, no Jobcentres, journals, job search, providers. courses. Of course you could always get a high paying job in British Leyland for doing jackshit 😀

        Hillman Imp

        January 17, 2020 at 8:09 pm

      • The Tories like dodging 200,000 DWP deaths.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 8:09 pm

      • The Right To Buy Your Council Flat has left a housing shortage – Thachter.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 8:32 pm

      • You are obviously a huge fan of the seventies, trev, since you want to take us back there hence your love for Corbynism. The 70s was the last time the UK had a truly Socialist Government.

        Nobody is saying that the 70s were bad, just different. A lot of things were a lot easier back then. Housing was cheap, you could get a brand-new council house at the drop of a hat. There was no-one running around like a blue-arsed fly delivering pizza on a zero-hour. It was Harold Wilson who said: “You have never had it so good”. The seventies and socialism was the high point… if you didn’t mind waiting six months to get a British Telecom phone installed. No popping into Carphone Warehouse for a cheap pay-as-you-go. Different times, different strokes for different folks…

        Rewind to the 70s

        January 17, 2020 at 8:45 pm

      • It wasn’t British Telecom it was the GPO. We didn’t have a phone or a colour tv until 1975. We didn’t have an inside toilet until 1970. And we didn’t have any mobile phones or internet of course, but quite honestly I could live without all that. The 1970s were great, no Jobcentres, no CVs, a functional Social Security system, no foodbanks, Nationalization, strong Trade Unions. What’s not to like? The 60s were even better, pre-devaluation.


        January 17, 2020 at 9:14 pm

      • It wasn’t Thatcher who bought the council houses though – it was the working-classes. Maybe they should have stuck to their socialist principles like we did and refuse to buy them but pure greed got the better of them.

        trev's parents

        January 17, 2020 at 9:01 pm

      • A lot of Tory voters bought their council houses. Not all council houses were labour voters.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 9:48 pm

      • What were you doing living in a council house if you’re not a socialist, Stepping? There wasn’t a decent council house left in council hands after Maggie’s fire-sale. Even the rubbish tower block flats in places like Hackney have now fallen into private hands. And it was the same socialists who bought their council homes who were filling their boots with shares in the public utilities as Maggie sold the ‘family silver’ at rock-bottom prices. The very same socialists who made a mint ‘carpetbagging’ the building societies as they converted to banks. Even to this day Mrs T takes a lot of stick, especially from socialists, but her policies were certainly popular with with working-class socialists. It also goes to prove that what is best for the individual is not necessarily best for society and as always human nature wins out, and who can really blame them working-class socialists. The smart ones who didn’t spunk their ill-gotten gains on colour TVs, music centres and package holidays to Florida will be doing all right now, not relying on benefits or minimum wage zero-hour contract work, but instead sitting with huge property portfolios kick-started by Maggie’s largesse. Probably even a member of the Conservative Club. Principles have a price.

        Elenora Beatty

        January 17, 2020 at 10:52 pm

      • … as trev’s parents no doubt found out to their cost.

        Elenora Beatty

        January 17, 2020 at 10:53 pm

      • @ Elenora Beatty (yet another made up name)

        My family lived in a Council house from 1970 onwards, my parents were Labour party members, my dad knew Harold Wilson at junior school. My parents were practically the only ones on the estate who DIDN’T buy their Council house because it was against their principles.


        January 17, 2020 at 11:06 pm

      • So everyone who bought their council flat were Labour Voters. That is laughable. Most of the people were Tories. Even Tories were in Social Housing or is that some myth created be the peasants.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 11:09 pm

      • COBRA***

        Sky One and NOW TV

        HE has played Hitler, a stripper (the clothes kind, not the wallpaper, grandma), and a Highland copper, so why shouldn’t Robert Carlyle play a Tory?

        Yet Begbie as a politician is not the most terrifying notion in the new Sky One drama COBRA.

        Written by Ben Richards (Strike), COBRA imagines what would happen if a space storm hit Earth. That is the prospect facing Blighty as Conservative PM Robert Sutherland (Carlyle), his chief of staff Anna Marshall (Victoria Hamilton, The Crown), and officials gather in Cabinet Office Briefing Room A (COBRA) to hear from bearded men in cheap suits, otherwise known as scientists.

        Beard Number One says that in the first stage of a solar storm satellites will be knocked out, throwing navigation systems into flux. Planes could fall out of the sky. In the second stage, all electrical power will go off. No light, no heating, no internet, no Antiques Roadshow.

        Older readers will recognise this as the 1970s. Back then, in the days of three-day weeks and power cuts, the populace lit candles, threw coats on the bed and got on with it. I suspect modern society, made of flimsier stuff, is not going to manage so well.

        Cynthia Bardell-Wellingtrope

        January 18, 2020 at 1:01 am

      • Time to have a Cobra meeting with the PM then !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 18, 2020 at 1:06 am

      • The snowflake generation would melt like snow on a dyke under 1970s full-fat Corbyn-style socialism. Imagine your latte machine not working because the electricity supply was turned off and not being able to get on social media because the internet was turned off. Spending a winter’s evening under a coat with a candle for light.


        January 18, 2020 at 1:11 am

  30. Now Tories what would you like to say?

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 7:38 pm

  31. Campaign begins to save council-run nurseries facing the axe

    Four nurseries threatened with closure

    Camden New Journal – 17th Jan 2017

    PARENTS are fighting to halt plans to close down council-run nurseries with warnings that their children will be left with nowhere to go.

    More than 500 people have already signed a petition calling for the Gospel Oak Nursery to be saved after families were sent letters about a consultation survey over its future.

    Hampden Nursery in Somers Town, Konstam Nursery in Highgate Newtown and Kilburn Grange could also be shut down from September as Camden Council assesses the numbers who are using the service.

    Shauni Warman, a parent with young children at Gospel Oak Nursery, said: “My twin sons, Joey and Hunter, were diagnosed with autism last year and since starting the nursery have excelled in leaps and bounds. The staff are amazing and highly experienced and my sons have built a beautiful relationship with them.”

    The nursery is just a stone’s throw from Carlton Primary School, which the Town Hall is also considering closing, blaming dwindling numbers of applications for places.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 7:47 pm

  32. School caretaker warns against ‘insane’ idea to close primary school

    Parents fight to keep Carlton School open

    Camden New Journal – 3rd Jan 2020

    A SCHOOL caretaker is fearing for his future as the battle to keep Carlton Primary School open continues. Michael Hollis, who has been at the school since 1996, said: “I’ve seen this school do so much good in the community and particularly in Queen’s Cresc

    ent where there is a lot of deprivation. The school has become the fabric of the community.” He added: “Because I live on site it is especially important for me. My whole life is here. If the school would close my whole life would close.”

    Mr Hollis spoke to the New Journal at the school Christmas fair where the Carlton Parent Action Group was collecting reasons for the school in Grafton Road to stay open from parents and pupils.

    The council has partly blamed a move towards possible closure on a falling birth rate for dwindling pupil numbers. The number of enrolments is directly linked to the amount of funding schools receive.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 7:48 pm

    • Tories refusing education – Keep everyone stupid.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 17, 2020 at 7:49 pm

  33. Come on Tories you always have something to say, now’s the time. Tories what would you like to say?

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 7:53 pm

  34. I thought the Tories would promote their new policy of selling off schools to anyone like G4s, Serco, Atos. on no you don’t want your new policy in public !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 8:03 pm

  35. Bing Bong Bong Bing the cocke has got stuck up my nose Bong Bing bing bong Boris you took too much cocke today bong bong bing.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    • I can’t help feeling that Stepping Razor would be black-balled at my club.

      Sebastian Hadley-Benderson

      January 17, 2020 at 11:06 pm

      • Don’t you need a straw up your nose at your club !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 11:13 pm

      • This blog is infested with Tory Trolls and Class Traitors who deserve all they are going to get over the next 4 years of Emperor Boris and his Get-Brexit-Done Tory shit-storm. All of which could have been avoided if you listened to Jeremy Corbyn, the most honest man in British Politics with the best Manifesto I’ve ever seen in my adult life. Fuck the lot of you.


        January 17, 2020 at 11:14 pm

      • @trev – I malfunction Tory Chat Bots really quickly – the regulars also know that.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 11:16 pm

    • The reason why the Tories & their chat bots are getting busy is that we are a threat to them. Shows how unstable the Tories really are.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 17, 2020 at 11:21 pm

      • Tories & British Empire go & hide

        Slavery & Thalidomide

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 11:27 pm

  36. @trev, And anyway, just because a name sounds a bit odd doesn’t mean it’s made up.

    Rod Revert

    January 17, 2020 at 11:11 pm

    • These Tory Chat Bots have strange names.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 17, 2020 at 11:13 pm

      • Say the man/woman who calls himself/herself “Stepping Razor Sound Plate System”! Tee-hee.

        Pot Kettle

        January 18, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    • One man’s Class Traitor is another man’s Realistic Socialist. And come to think of it, what a good name for a political party. The Realistic Socialist Party – RSP

      Adam Parnell

      January 17, 2020 at 11:33 pm

  37. What’s with the sneaky New Year round of inflation, especially those T-T-Tesco fuckers. This upcoming 1.7% increase in working-age benefits is going to be wiped out before we even get it.

    The Supershoppers

    January 17, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    • We noticed that toilet rolls have crept up in price. Luckily we bought literally thousands of rolls as part of our Brexit preparations. It is not like they are going to go off. We have enough supplies of beans, tinned goods, etc. to last for several lifetimes. So maybe Brexit-prepping wasn’t such a mad idea after all. 😀

      Kandis Keplin and Family (Brexit Prepper)

      January 18, 2020 at 11:40 am

  38. I do wish @trev would moderate his language. Although modesty does prevent many ladies from posting on this blog, there are I understand, many young ladies of good breeding, who take an active interest in the most informative discussions on Ipswich Unemployed Action.

    Miss Lucinda Brooks-Mountley

    January 17, 2020 at 11:24 pm

    • Was Theresa May a lady for the Tory Party !!!

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 17, 2020 at 11:28 pm

      • Something to do with Genocide.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 11:31 pm

  39. Why not start on me & leave trev alone. Come on Tories you always have something to say.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 11:30 pm

  40. I cost the Tory Lawyers £50,000 a day if I get busy in Human Rights Violations – Now Tories wasting the tax payers money on scapegoats.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 17, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    • Tory Jews think they are better than other Jews – Now get your lawyers.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 17, 2020 at 11:37 pm

      • On no the lawyers had to mention Israel are terrorists to Jews as well.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 17, 2020 at 11:38 pm

    • Your posts are most of the time incoherent, Stepping. You post and then reply to your post and then reply to the reply to your post and so on ending up making no sense at all. Just like talking to yourself posting to yourself repeatedly is kind of odd if not worrying. Some of your voluminous posts make sense but a lot of them don’t and far too many are incomprehensible and lose all meaning. Just sayin’.


      January 18, 2020 at 8:21 am

      • Tory Chat Bot Troll! Malfunctioned!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 18, 2020 at 10:38 am

      • Hate Crime Detected! Tory Chat Bot Trolls Run Scared! Take Me To Court! See You Iain Duncan Donut! Human Rights Violation Detected! Bodies Delivered To Caxton House! No Escape!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 18, 2020 at 10:44 am












    Tyrone ARMATAGE

    January 18, 2020 at 10:56 am

  42. My Avatar shows who I am – Tory Chat Bots can’t compute reality since they are programmed by a Tory in a Tory political bubble – So nothing technical to malfunction them – It is a cold day today – I can’t compute reality – then the Toru Chats attack the Tory Party. Recall the malfunctioned Tory Chat Bots back to Tory HQ.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 18, 2020 at 1:39 pm

    • Tory HQ I have told you before how dangerous your chat bots are to the Tory Party.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 18, 2020 at 1:40 pm

  43. Some good news for film fans. Ken Loach’s much anticpated drama ‘Sorry We Missed You’ has just been ‘released’ on torrent 😉

    Movie Buff

    January 18, 2020 at 1:49 pm

  44. There are piles of sleeping bags in the doorways

    It’s the same here turning any direction in the town with homeless people.Shops are closing the windows’ turned white and the homeless in the doorway,here theres now a metal barricade where two slept last week.It looks a terrible refection on society and how much the divide has widened visibly also its hard to see Jobcentre staff involved in this direct perhaps maybe be referred on by some signposting service at the council who let the situation get out of control in the first place.Its like rundown Britain


    January 18, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    • Dundee-born Hollywood star Brian Cox has revealed he is to join a global drive to end homelessness – warning that the sight of people sleeping on the streets of major cities was so commonplace it was now “taken for granted” by the public.

      The star of the hit HBO series Succession, who is expected to take part in a mass sleep-out event in Edinburgh next month, said action was urgently needed to tackle “desperate” levels of homelessness.

      Cox recalled his horror at seeing people sleeping on the streets of London for the first time as a young actor in the early 1980s and blamed the policies of then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher for the start of the “phenomenon” in the UK.

      Cox, who now lives in New York, said the problems with homelessness in the city were now worse than during the “Great Depression” in the 1930s.

      Cox said: “Homeless has really been hovering.

      “I remember away back when I was a young actor and was working in Waterloo at the National Theatre in London. I saw right at the beginning of the Thatcher administration – there’s a clue – that suddenly there were these people sleeping.

      “That had never been the case in London in all my time there, from when I was a student. I remember seeing it – it was a phenomenon. It was known as ‘cardboard city.’ There was eventually about 300 people there. It happened very quickly.

      “There’s now more people homeless in New York now than during the Great Depression.

      Sybil Hashimoto

      January 18, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      • It was supposed to be no second night out,homeless reduction act and the rest of it.Many won’t trust the system.


        January 19, 2020 at 7:57 am

  45. Prince Harry and Meghan will no longer use their HRH titles and will not receive public funds for royal duties, Buckingham Palace has said.

    The Duke and Duchess of Sussex also said they intend to repay £2.4m of taxpayer money for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home.

    The couple will also no longer formally represent The Queen.

    It comes after they said they wanted to step back as senior royals.


    ... Breaking News...

    January 18, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    • Erm. If they want to continue living at Frogmore Cottage shouldn’t they either buy the property freehold, lease it from the crown or pay rent on it like everybody else? And pay Council Tax on it, full rate, whether at home or abroad? Plus it IS going to be the British tax payer who will have to fork out millions upon millions paying for their personal security, and the security of their offspring and descendents, at home and abroad for ever!

      Nice work if you can get it.


      January 19, 2020 at 9:04 am

      • They are going to pay a market rent, Willie, and apparently Meghan is going to do a voice over for a Disney cartoon to pay for some of it! Harry has no worries having inherited millions from his poor dead mother and is independently wealthy with expert money managers investing and trading stocks and shares to keep the dough rolling in to the Mountbatten-Windsor household.


        January 19, 2020 at 4:15 pm

  46. I wish I could step back from my Claimant Commitment but still get the money !

    Dave Blunt

    January 18, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    • the cc is not a legal binding contract bar looking and applying for work to be able to receive benefits they just make it look like that so they can put crap out like this to try and control you.



      January 18, 2020 at 11:03 pm

      • Too true, ted. The cc is also used as a distraction to bog jobseekers down so that they will forget to look for an apply for work. A 35 hour a week jobsearch when you haven’t looked for an applied to any jobs will get you in trouble. All you have to do to keep out of trouble is look for an apply for work. And forget all this cc crap.

        Chantay Barks

        January 19, 2020 at 8:59 am

  47. The DWP still keep trying to proclaim the virtues of low-paid work, when the reality is very different:

    1.Many people have had a poor experience of such work, often for years at time. Perhaps for their whole working life.

    2. They have gained nothing by this work in terms of property or possessions, and are excluded from any advantages of the capitalist system.

    Andrew Greenford

    January 19, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    • Its often the most demanding with irregular hours’,checks in place,own transport and previous experience.Police advice to someone is now not to go out at night at all on top.It does have its benefits the workplace is less congested allowing work to be carried out without interruption.

      The Universal Credit system is bogged down with years’ of adverse publicity.It does look like the Conservatives are worried that the Beast of Bolsover is replaced by the beast of Universal Credit in constituencies’ they recently won.


      Seven years later its still continuing.


      January 19, 2020 at 4:25 pm

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