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Universal Credit System Breakdown, “Civil servants ‘ashamed’ to work for DWP”.

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A protester in a crime scene outfit crouches by a sign saying universal credit is a crime

This week there were people begging just near to Suffolk College.

They have moved from the Ipswich central shopping streets outwards.

I don’t want to see a country where people have to depend on the kindness of strangers but get decent benefits.

Generous strangers give £26k to Universal Credit mum with just 14p to her name

Mirror today

Hundreds of Britons have offered to help homeless mum Rachel Finn, from Grimsby, after she pulled 14p out of her pocket and said “that’s all our money”

The 39-year-old, who is staying in temporary accommodation with her 18-year-old son, Bradley, has been backed by the likes of pop star Lily Allen.

Her story captured the nation’s attention after she emptied her pockets and put down four 2p pieces and six 1p coins on a table – tearfully saying “that’s all our money” – for a BBC crew reporting on vulnerable and low-income voters in Grimsby.

This is the I today,

Jasmine Andersson

I’m a working single mother who receives Universal Credit, and I’ve had to take my daughter to friends’ houses so we can eat

Sporadic Universal Credit payments and nursery fees have landed her in thousands of pounds of debt.

A working single parent has been taking her daughter to friends’ houses to eat to because she can’t afford to meet the family’s living costs.

Ayo, 29, a communications worker, owes money to debtors, her family and friends because she cannot afford to cover nursery costs for her two-year-old daughter’s nursery bills.

Although Ayo returned to work after she gave birth to her daughter in 2017, her debt has been compounded by missed Universal Credit paymentsnursery fees and rent arrears, leaving her living pay-cheque to pay-cheque.

The young woman, who lives in Hammersmith, London, told i she fell into debt because of her childcare bills.

“When I fell pregnant, I was in a job for less than 26 weeks, so I was only entitled to statutory maternity pay. Because I was entitled to statutory maternity pay, I couldn’t receive any Universal Credit, so I couldn’t get a sure start grant to cover my childcare costs,” she said.

“I went back to work, so I had to find a nursery to look after my daughter. I had to pay a registration fee. I was lucky to pay just one nursery registration fee, because if there’s a waiting list, a lot of parents have to pay more. On top of that, I had to pay a month’s deposit, and a one month nursery fee in advance.

No wonder this is happening: (5th of December).

Civil servants described to colleagues how they were “ashamed” to work for the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) because of the experiences of their own relatives when claiming universal credit, leaked documents have revealed.

The thoughts of DWP civil servants were shared with colleagues on the department’s intranet earlier this year, and they have now been passed to Disability News Service.

They appear to destroy DWP’s continuing insistence that UC “is a force for good” and that it has overwhelming support from its own staff.

In all, three separate civil servants used the DWP intranet in early May to criticise the way their own relatives had been treated while attempting to claim UC.

It comes as Labour has promised to scrap UC if it wins next week’s general election, as has the Green party, while the Conservatives have pledged to “continue the roll-out”, and the Liberal Democrats have said they would try to improve the system.

A DWP staff member who passed the comments to DNS said he wanted the public to know that many of his colleagues did not share the views of Conservative ministers like work and pensions secretary Therese Coffey, who insists that universal credit (UC) “provides a safeguard for the most vulnerable in our society”.

Instead, he said, many of his colleagues were concerned about the flaws in the system, which is gradually being rolled out by the government and has been described as “toxic” by disabled campaigners and linked to “soaring” rates of sanctions and foodbank use in areas where it has been introduced.

The comments were made on the DWP intranet, which is open to all staff members, in response to an update headlined “Universal Credit – the myth busters get to work”, which was posted by a senior member of staff on 2 May.

Soon after the discussion, a DWP memo was leaked to the media and led to widespread outrage when it revealed that the department was planning a national “myth-busting” campaign aimed at dealing with media “negativity and scaremongering” about UC.

The newly-leaked intranet comments appear to show what DWP members of staff really think about UC.

The update had explained how jobcentres had invited local reporters into their offices to “show the reality of the great service we provide within our community”.

But the post drew a scathing response from several staff members over the following week.

One civil servant told colleagues, less than an hour after the original post, that his brother’s experience on UC was “not made up or exaggerated”.

He added: “I was and still am ashamed to work for [a] department that could treat my Brother so poorly. I am sorry to say ‘myth busting’ is another name for propaganda when it comes to Universal Credit

Meanwhile the extreme-right pro-Brexit Express carries this story:

Universal Credit claimants could get £1,200 bonus money – how to get the tax-free cash

UNIVERSAL CREDIT recipients may be able to get additional help with savings under a government scheme. How does the Help to Save scheme work, and who is eligible for this bonus money?

This is what the Tories really think of those less fortunate than themselves:

Here’s what Labour thinks:

Written by Andrew Coates

December 6, 2019 at 12:22 pm

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  1. Social Security dysfunctional, safety net removed, DWP in chaos, thousands begging to survive, a million plus using foodbanks, all a sad indictment of life in Tory Britain. Get them out, vote Labour.

    trev

    December 6, 2019 at 2:04 pm

  2. The state of Universal Credit and the whole benefit system shames this country, and the right-wing Tories who set out to destroy the whole concept of social security. How in hell they managed to pass this off as a good thing is beyond understanding. For God’s sake vote Labour, and let us have done with Tory cruelty !

    Jeff Smith

    December 6, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    • Amen to that Jeff, and let’s not forget the LibDems role in all of this, the Austerity and Welfare reforms that they supported and their colluding with the Tories.

      trev

      December 6, 2019 at 2:52 pm

      • @Trev – LibDem collaborators. If it hadn’t been for those conceited clowns, who would sell their own mother for a ministerial box, none of this would be happening.

        Alan Turner

        December 6, 2019 at 6:10 pm

      • Very true, they have a lot to answer for, despite what Swinson is saying now, they backed Austerity and Welfare reforms, and enabled the Tories into Government in the first place.

        trev

        December 6, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    • No decent Doctor would touch this kind of work . I remember seeing a photograph from The Second World War. In the picture some poor devil has been immersed in a tank of freezing water, he is almost dead.Looking on are two Nazi SS German Doctors. They were testing how long someone could survive in freezing water. It was research about how long a pilot might survive if they had to bale out over the sea. They killed many prisoners doing this – qualified Doctors.

      Alan Turner

      December 6, 2019 at 6:20 pm

  3. It looks like Universal Credit is here to stay if the Tories win the general election next week, which it pains me to say looks likely. If the Tories win power with a majority they will be able to do anything that they want, pretty much, for four or five years meaning that it would be best if Jeremy Corbyn did not resign but stayed on as leader of the opposition for as long as necessary for Labour to analyse what went wrong and decide what’s the best thing to do in respect to the leader and the shadow cabinet. There will be plenty of time, years literally, to rake through things with a fine tooth comb and work out why Labour got rejected and a charlatan and liar led a cruel and unusual party to victory. Labour needs to take its time and try to do better next time and should throw everything into chaos by turning everything upside down all of a sudden. After being defeated we need to keep both our heads and our cool and not allow a civil war to break out in the party.

    Kinky

    December 6, 2019 at 3:29 pm

    • There’s no point in speculation, I wouldn’t worry about any of that, the opinions of various polls and trolls is irrelevant, all you need to do is put your X next to Labour, then sit back and relax and wait for the results to come in.

      trev

      December 6, 2019 at 4:57 pm

      • @trev – You stand by your guns mate, and good for you. Don’t you let any of these trolls put you off.

        Frank Harper

        December 6, 2019 at 6:29 pm

  4. Andrew Coates

    December 6, 2019 at 5:05 pm

    • Lord Freud was forced to retract what he had said after expressing similar views a few years ago, when he said that disabled people should work for £2 per hour. What a c***

      trev

      December 6, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    • “the happiness of work” indeed! Who’s she trying to kid? In all the dreadful jobs I’ve ever done in the last 40 years I have NEVER experienced any happiness whatsoever. People don’t work for the fun of it, they work because they have to, to earn money. Her ideas of paying workers peanuts ensures happiness for no one but the employers. Thank God for Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. VOTE LABOUR!

      trev

      December 6, 2019 at 5:32 pm

  5. Conservative Voters should be forced to visit a Local Foodbank. Be introduced to some homeless people who sleep on cardboard boxes. Taken to the local hospital to see people dying on trolleys. Then onto their local school to see kids who are so hungry that they steal food from the school dustbins.
    Then let them vote Bloody Conservative !

    Jeff Smith

    December 6, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    • No point. Right-wingers really don’t care about the poor and the post-facto rationalisation as per not giving a toss they use is blame the poor for their poverty. From the Tory perspective if somebody able-bodied can’t support themselves without help from the state it’s because they’re lazy, indolent, slothful, moribund and parasitic and if they only exerted themselves, made an effort to improve themselves, put their should to the wheel and nose to the grindstone they too could be successful and independent home owners contributing taxes to the state rather than milking the system, sometimes for years at a time, as spongers and scroungers frittering their lives away like postponed corpses who copulate creating more wasters like them.

      This is the Tory the narrative.

      That’s the why for Universal Credit.

      Cassandra

      December 7, 2019 at 8:56 am

    • @Jeff Smith – You are right there Jeff. Most of the Tories just read the Times & Daily Mail and carry on looking the other way.

      Alan Turner

      December 7, 2019 at 1:13 pm

  6. Society has definitely suffered through confidence.Some people are more predatory and opportunist and areas have become very much more run down.Out today a man was rummaging through a stub box for tobacco and around a bin put the content’s in a pipe and lit.

    ken

    December 6, 2019 at 9:20 pm

  7. This time next week it’ll be all over and Labour must pull its socks up and get its act together, elect a leader with mass appeal to all sections of society (in order to garner enough support from the uncommitted in order to win a general election) rather than too small a core of the already convinced, haters and the faithful (who always vote Labour, tribally, no matter who leads it come what may) to win power. In order to win the Labour party must persuade enough of the electorate who previously voted for other parties to jump ship and support Labour during a general election; Labour will never be able to make it over the line if it focuses only on the interests of its membership coupled with those who vote Labour traditionally and habitually. The reason that Labour is going to lose the general election next Wednesday is because it has FAILED to persuade voters to switch from other parties and vote Labour in the ballot box. Labour must commit itself to do better next time, leader-wise and policy-wise. Once the Brexit hysteria has simmered down and, hopefully, sanity returned to the United Kingdom the general election after the one being held next week might be the best chance for Labour to get back into power for a generation.

    For goodness sake please do not let THAT opportunity be missed in the same way as next week.

    Cassandra

    December 7, 2019 at 8:42 am

    • Labour have FAILED to persuade voters simply because voters can see all around them the DAMAGE down by previous Labour Government policies. And anyone with half a brain knows that a Corbyn/McDonnell administration would DESTROY this country. If you want strike after strike by greedy public sector workers, mass workfare for the unemployed, handouts to wealthy waspi women, hyperinflation, benefits becoming worthless due to hyperinflation, power cuts, uncollected rubbish strewing the streets, the dead lying unburied then yes, do vote Labour.

      Floating Voter

      December 7, 2019 at 9:42 am

      • The Tories have been in Government for nearly a decade, it is them and their policies of neglect and austerity that have wrecked and ruined this country and attacked every aspect of Society. No one is to blame for the state of this country but the Tories. Get them out, vote Labour.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 10:49 am

    • Brexit is the fly in the ointment, or rather rampant xenophobia and racism stirred up by the Far Right. Working Class areas that would have traditionally voted Labour have been duped into believing that ‘Johnny Foreigner’ is the source of all their woes, too gullible to see that the real enemy in this Class War are the rich and the Tories who represent the rich. But it’s not over yet, it’s neck & neck, anybody’s race, Labour can still win.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 10:55 am

    • There’s nothing wrong with the Policies that Labour are offering, it’s a matter of re-educating a Politically illiterate electorate to understand that Socialism is the only answer, rather than Labour abandoning its principles to attract votes, which would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Fortunately there are now sufficient Left wing members in the Labour party to ensure that will never happen.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 11:09 am

      • Then Labour will shrink and diminish and never be elected, trev. There might be enough members of Labour to keep it left-wing but under those circumstances there will never be enough non-members willing to place their trust in Labour and vote for it in every future general election. The party’s membership will decline, debts mount, and the fate of the organisation might well be to decline and wither away ending up like the Liberal Democrats, out of power pretty much forever and so impotent to do any of the things that all of us would like to see like repairing and restoring the country’s social security system, building social housing and rejuvenating and bring the NHS up to full strength.

        On the bright side Labour’s leader and policy agenda will please the left-wing of the party’s membership.

        (But at the cost of never ever being able to help improve the lives of the people it is supposed to serve.)

        Cassandra

        December 7, 2019 at 11:38 am

      • Like I said Cassandra, it’s a matter of re-educating the electorate, which is an ongoing battle against the lies and propaganda of the Right wing, a continuing struggle and one that we can never abandon.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 12:00 pm

  8. Labour ‘jobs guarantee’ promise limited to a year


    Rachel Reeves says almost 250,000 people will benefit from the policy

    Labour has only committed to fund a policy that it describes as the “centrepiece and foundation stone” of its economic plan for a single year.

    The party has vowed to guarantee jobs for the long-term unemployed if it wins the election next year.

    Labour recently called this “a backstop for our social security system”.

    But a House of Commons analysis of the scheme’s impact, seen by the BBC, was commissioned on the basis it would run for just a year.

    Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Rachel Reeves confirmed to the BBC that, under Labour’s current plans, the funding would only be in place for the first year of a Labour government.

    Speaking to Radio 4’s World at One, she said: “In the first year it would help 55,000 young people and 170,000 people over the age of 25.

    “That’s a huge number of people, almost a quarter of a million, who would be benefiting from this policy.”

    Bonus tax

    The “jobs guarantee” would mean anyone over the age of 25 who had received jobseeker’s allowance for two years or more and anyone under 25 who had received the allowance for a year or more would get a guaranteed job.

    The policy would be funded by repeating the tax on bankers’ bonuses, and a restriction on pension tax relief for those on the highest incomes.

    Labour will make more announcements on helping the long-term unemployed soon.

    But it is not clear whether it will commit to extending the “jobs guarantee” before the general election.

    A Labour spokesman said: “For three years Labour has been calling on the government to introduce a compulsory jobs guarantee to get the long-term unemployed off benefits and into work.

    “Sadly, the government has failed to adopt Labour’s compulsory jobs guarantee and, since David Cameron became prime minister, the number of young people on the dole for over a year has doubled.”

    Last month, Ms Reeves said that “the centrepiece and foundation stone of Labour’s economic plan is a compulsory jobs guarantee for young people and the long-term unemployed”.

    In the past, shadow chancellor Ed Balls has described how the policy would develop “over time”.

    Tony Wilson, who as a civil servant ran a similar policy initiative when Labour was in government, said he hoped the party would give serious consideration to a jobs guarantee that lasted for a whole Parliament.

    ‘Short-term gimmick’

    Mr Wilson now works for the Inclusion think tank, which advises political parties on employment policy.

    Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said: “Ed Miliband promised all his policies would be ‘fully funded’. But now we learn that one of his flagship policies is a short-term gimmick with sums that don’t add up.

    “That means more spending and more borrowing. Nothing’s changed – it’s the same old Labour offering no long-term economic plan for the future.”

    The Shape of Things To Come?

    December 7, 2019 at 11:29 am

    • No, it’s not the “shape of things to come”, it is very old news about a now abandoned policy that existed under Ed Miliband. Rachel Reeves hasn’t been in the Shadow Cabinet for about five years! But nice try at shit stirring, you failed.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 12:06 pm

      • Corbyn/McDonnell follow the Maxist belief that if you don’t work, you don’t eat.

        Friedrich Engels

        December 7, 2019 at 12:45 pm

      • *Marxist

        Friedrich Engels

        December 7, 2019 at 12:46 pm

    • Rachel Reeves.We’ve seen her before.

      Labour will be tougher than Tories on benefits, promises new welfare chief

      Rachel Reeves vows to cut welfare bill and force long-term jobless to take up work offers or lose state support

      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/12/labour-benefits-tories-labour-rachel-reeves-welfare

      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/19/union-chiefs-rachel-reeves-labour-welfare-pledge

      It’s all caused so much bitterness and cost some their live’s,we’ll be posting for years’!

      ken

      December 7, 2019 at 12:35 pm

      • And ‘losing state support’ meant what it said on the tin. If you didn’t take up the ‘offer’ of one of these ‘jobs’ you would be out on the street. Brutal!

        Cillit Bang

        December 7, 2019 at 12:40 pm

      • Yep, the Labour party were clearly trying to gain votes by emulating the Tories in those days, but they didn’t get mine. Thankfully Corbyn has steered Labour in a better direction since then.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 1:04 pm

      • Yes and that was partly the reason I didn’t vote Labour under Miliband. Thankfully, Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell have shifted the party in a different direction, away from the Glasmanite ‘Blue Labour’ that not-so-Red Ed was offering.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    • Is ‘Tougher Than The Tories Rachel Reeves’ ? Queen of Cruelty ?

      Dave Carter

      December 7, 2019 at 1:14 pm

  9. No one is concerned about anything until it affects them.

    xclausx

    December 7, 2019 at 11:36 am

    • Exactly! Got it in one 😉

      Student of Human Nature

      December 7, 2019 at 11:50 am

    • That’s because people don’t realize that EVERYTHING affects them.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 12:15 pm

  10. There are more food banks than McDonald’s in the UK, new figures show.

    The shocking figures reveal there are 800 more food banks than branches of the fast food chain.

    There are now more food banks in the UK than there are branches of fast food chains like McDonald’s, according to figures that first emerged on Twitter with six days to go before the election.

    Official figures suggest there are now more than 2,000 food banks across the UK, the majority of which are run by the charity The Trussell Trust.
    n the UK, there are 1,249 McDonald’s branches, with reportedly 500 Burger King branches and 2,000 branches of both Subway and Costa.

    People reacted on Twitter when faced with the bald statistics.

    One wrote: “2019 under the Tories…. McDonalds 1249 Subway 2000 Burger King 500 Starbucks 995 Costa 2000 Food banks 2030 In 2013 the Tories rejected £22,000,000 of funding from the EU to help fund food banks #ImSackingBoris #GetBorisGone #NeverTrustATory”

    Another said simply: “More food banks than McDonalds.”

    Manchester Evening News.

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/more-food-banks-than-mcdonalds-17374595

    Andrew Coates

    December 7, 2019 at 11:38 am

    • Foodbanks are the norm, getting busier by the day.

      xclausx

      December 7, 2019 at 11:45 am

      • Humans are the most adaptable species on the planet. What was once considered completely abhorrent and unacceptable quickly becomes the ‘new norm’… foodbanks, random stabbings in the street, mass round-ups and executions…. Scary! Very scary!

        Student of Human Nature

        December 7, 2019 at 11:53 am

    • That says it all. Goodbye Tories, don’t come back.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 12:08 pm

      • Locally Mcdonalds is a form of foodbank with the homeless outside asking for money for a burger.

        ken

        December 7, 2019 at 12:40 pm

      • Yuk, I think I’d rather starve than eat that muck!

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 1:06 pm

  11. A Conservative government will put nobody first but themselves, like they have been doing for the past decade, robbing the country blind and stashing their ill-gotten gains in offshore accounts and dodgy Russian banks, and they are in the process right now of selling our NHS to American companies. The only way to stop them is by voting Labour.

    trev

    December 7, 2019 at 11:56 am

  12. The Trussell Trust is NOT a charity! It is a FRANCHISE! You PAY to use the ‘The Trussell Trust’ ‘branding on your foodbank. Maybe that is why they are springing up like mushrooms. Whatever, The Trussell Trust must be coining it in.

    Samantha

    December 7, 2019 at 12:00 pm

    • There are a great many independent foodbanks not connected to Trussell, like the one in my town where I volunteer, they give out on average 200 food parcels per week and in the last year have provided enough food for nearly a quarter of a million meals, and that’s just one foodbank in one town and is totally non-profit.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    • Why are food banks needed at all? Food poverty in the UK in the 21st century is a national disgrace. Why is the government of the day not doing something to address the fact that hundreds of thousands of citizens no longer have a secure means to nourish themselves properly? You can’t say the people need “five potions of fruit and vegetables a day” in order to keep healthy and then make such advice impossible to follow if you are at the bottom of the earnings ladder.

      Ingram Bright

      December 7, 2019 at 2:55 pm

  13. trev, you gave the game away when you said you would support a policy to “rob the rich to give to the poor(you) 😉 But if the boot was on the other foot, would you still be “voting with your conscience”? Like the Hell you would – if you were in different circumstances you would be a dyed-in-the-wool Tory voter. Everyone (including) you are only acting in their own best interests. A bit of honesty wouldn’t go amiss. At least Tories are honest.

    N Tebbit

    December 7, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    • “Tories are honest” ??/!! What fecking planet are you living on?
      I would not ever, under any circumstances, be a Tory or vote Tory, even if I won the lottery. Get that through your simple, greedy, Tory little mind. To me Tories are filth, the absolute scum of the earth.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    • Aneurin Bevan, 1948, “Tories are lower than vermin”

      https://www.theguardian.com/news/1948/jul/05/leadersandreply.mainsection

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    • Obviously not true. Just look at how generous people are, e.g., a young mother pauperised by the Universal Credit regime was give £26,000, collected spontaneously by people who saw her talking about her life on TV, out of the goodness of their hearts. Consider how much money is donated to charities every year quietly and anonymously and the fact that even Boris Johnson is not planning to cut Britain’s foreign aid budget in the way that the godawful Nigel Farage would do if he ever had a sniff of power. Not all comfortably off people, including well-heeled Tory voters, are selfish and cruel even though modern Tories from 2010 in government seem to be and many Tory voters hold their noses when they vote Conservative, hating what they see happening to society and the country, not to serve their own ends but because they are convinced that the alternatives which present themselves would end up making things even worse.

      Tiny Timothy

      December 7, 2019 at 2:49 pm

      • When was the last time you donated to an online begging site, Tiny Timothy? Of course you are going to make a good few quid if you are given nationwide media exposure. £26,000 out of a UK population of over 70 million. There are lots of factors. Age, race, gender all come into play. A young attractive female is obviously going to get more donations than a wrinkly old man or woman. Someone who can play a ‘card’ such as the ‘disability card’ will make more than an ‘unemployed scrounger’. A ‘disabled’ person whose generous payments are delayed by a nanosecond will pop up on these pages with their begging bowl. And when their generous benefit payment arrives they won’t refund the donors either. If you are going to beg you should at least refund the donors when your benefits comes through. Donors who may be struggling financially. And you never know who is bona fide or scamming on these sites. It is a crowded competitive market place. There are plenty of sites with tips on how to write a good pitch.

        Eunice

        December 7, 2019 at 3:11 pm

      • A woman in Aldi a couple of weeks ago that I was chatting to whilst in the queue to the checkout, a total stranger, gave me a tenner as I got to the till and was fumbling about trying to count my bit of loose change just to pay for a bottle of milk. She reached into her purse and pressed a £10 note into my hand and said it was an “early Christmas box”.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 3:18 pm

      • Donations should be treated as a short term interest free loan. It should be a criminal offence to hold onto them when you are paid by DWP.

        Val

        December 7, 2019 at 3:16 pm

      • Donations should be treated as a short-term emergency loan. It should be a criminal offence to hold onto them after you have been paid by DWP.

        Val

        December 7, 2019 at 3:19 pm

      • I donate to several charities, including animal charities, by standing orders and direct debit every month and also donate casually in the street and at my door when I meet people collecting. It may surprise you but huge numbers of citizens do this on a regular basis. It isn’t usually a topic of conversation and isn’t done in order to win kudos or admiration from other or to shame them. I’m surprised you seem to be ignorant of this behaviour because it goes on transparently all the time and many of the people doing this ARE Tories. I think you need to enlarge you circle of friends or possibly visit the Emeral City and ask the Wizard for a heart.

        Little Timothy

        December 7, 2019 at 3:20 pm

      • Aldi’s queues are longer than the Great Wall of China. You waited in one of them just for one pint of milk?!

        Meg

        December 7, 2019 at 3:22 pm

      • Meg,yes that’s all the money I had and it was a Monday, I didn’t know how I was going to make it through the week, so that tenner was a God-send. Besides, milk in aldi is 12p cheaper than in my local corner shop so needs must!

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 3:32 pm

      • If you are going to give money you are better giving to someone DIRECTLY so long as you are sure they are genuine and not to scam so-called ‘charities’. Instead of giving trev £10 the woman in Aldi could have signed up to the Salvation Army’s ‘Christmas Appeal’ at £19 a month. You know those bastards who are involved in workfare, get claimants sanctioned and made homeless. The bastards (along with Barnados) who sent orphans to Canada during the depression to be used as slave labour on farms. There is nothing wrong with giving what you can afford to GENUINE people. Still, it should be the responsibility of the State to make sure that ALL of its citizens have a home, are warm and well fed. Poverty in 21st Britain is man-made. Go an find us an empty supermarket shelf.

        Jane

        December 7, 2019 at 3:35 pm

  14. In a Sure Start Centre run by Action for Children I know they are now teaching the mothers how to cook properly. It is a lot cheaper and healthier than buying convenience food. Also I think it would be helpful to teach everyone how to budget, sometimes it is the poor who are better at this than the rich. A very basic rule of pay the rent and energy bills first then buy the food, real food not sweets etc, then the main clothes necessities for the children (shoes, underwear) When we were poor in the 1970’s there used to be great jumble sales for the rest of the children’s clothes. We used to end up with nothing so we mended our clothes. (no television, no car etc) Until people know how to budget paying benefits monthly is not good as there are still those who when they have money in their pockets they have to spend it. This problem should be recognised and a solution found. Foodbanks should be considered a help for emergencies and every effort made to educate everyone to cook and budget.

    Eileen

    December 7, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    • Fine advice IF there was sufficient to budget with to begin with. UK Benefits are underpaid by 40%, aside from the Universal Credit debacle.

      trev

      December 7, 2019 at 12:33 pm

    • Home security is a growing business opportunity.

      That Gammon and peas/Potatoes sounds delicious to me.Mentioning food under these conditions is a form of torture.

      ken

      December 7, 2019 at 12:45 pm

      • An ill wind blows nobody any good as they say, ken. If you have every reported a burglary you will soon realise that all that stuff you see on TV with folk in noddy suits, forensics, fingerprint experts etc. is a load of baloney. The police will not attend. You will be lucky if you get a ‘crime reference number’ for the insurance if you have any. Insurance won’t pay out in any case since it “hasn’t been properly investigated”.
        Burglars know this too. And you wonder why the rates of burglary are going through the roof. Been burglared, having you home ransacked, and your privacy violated is actually a very distressing experience.
        It leaves you feeling scared and unsafe in your own home. But the ‘authorities’ couldn’t care less. The only solution is to protect yourself and your family as best as you can.

        The Brown Family

        December 7, 2019 at 12:56 pm

      • I don’t know where you live but where I live I caught two burglars in my house who ran out the door, phoned police, they came soon after, took finger prints, took a statment, soon after that both caught, behind bars.

        xclausx

        December 8, 2019 at 9:26 am

      • Insurance fraud is rife these days (at least if you watch daytime TV). How are the insurance company going to know that you have been genuinely burglared? It is easier for the unscrupulous to put in claims nowadays. Insurance companies know that unless you have clout the filth won’t be bothered to investigate giving them an excuse not to pay out. Insurance companies, any sort of insurance, always look, will do their utmost to find an excuse, any flimsy pretext for not paying out.

        Claimed & Shamed

        December 8, 2019 at 10:45 am

      • When and if the fuzz respond could very well depend on where you live, whichever constabulary’s jurisdictional you fall under. xclaus, you probably live in a rural area where they hasn’t been a crime recorded for 50 years, and even that was someone carelessly discarding a sweet wrapper, so the local bobby has all the time in the world to give it the full CSI (Crime Scene Investigation), The Browns probably live in a big city, where murders, stabbings and acid attacks know burglary off the top spot.

        Detective Chief Inspector (DCI) Tom Barnaby

        December 8, 2019 at 10:55 am

      • *The Browns probably live in a big city, where murders, stabbings and acid attacks knock burglary off the top spot.

        Bloody typewriters!

        Detective Chief Inspector (DCI) Tom Barnaby

        December 8, 2019 at 10:57 am

    • Inequality is unavoidable – it exists and has existed in every human society and despite Marx, Engels and revolutions there was shedloads of it in communist Russia just as there is in communist China and North Korea today – but poverty in this day and age is not.

      Unice

      December 7, 2019 at 2:38 pm

      • But Boris Johnson isn’t saying that inequality is unavoidable, he’s saying it is preferable. If he thinks that inequality is essential, that means he will always favour policies that ensure and perpetuate inequality.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      • To be honest I don’t care about inequality as much as I care about poverty. I want everybody to be properly cared for and have a warm and secure home, food, drink, clothing, healthcare, education etc., and will leave it to others to fret about how much the Queen and the Duck of Westminster have in their bank accounts.

        Unice

        December 7, 2019 at 3:25 pm

      • But it all boils down to the same thing, I’m not saying it’s ever possible for us all to be totally equal (i.e. Utopia) but when inequality is so massive as it is now then Society is dysfunctional. Those who are Sanctioned get bugger all, those of us on JSA are expected to live on a lousy £73 per week, but the members of the House of Lords for example get £310 per DAY just for turning up!

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 3:38 pm

      • The difference is that us Lords and Ladies have to turn up every day for our meagre £310 allowance. It is not paid like a salary. No show – no dough! You unemployed only have to turn up once a fortnight for your handout.

        Lady Muck

        December 7, 2019 at 3:51 pm

      • Life under the Conservatives.

        But Boris Johnson isn’t saying that inequality is unavoidable, he’s saying it is preferable.

        Thats a fine thing to say.Blame those less fortunate while carrying out these vicious policies.Envy can have consequences,it can undermine neighbourhoods’ cause antisocial behavour leading to more serious crime.

        The fact that a minimum standard of living has been mentioned shows that poverty has grown out of control has become embedded in society and is not going away.It undermines the priority for employment growth and decent standards of living also worringly it shows work isn’t guaranteed to overcome this need,something that town centres’ are suffering from decline and growing numbers of homeless people/blankets on the pavement.As towns’ become more unpleasant people will avoid certain area’s,possibly avoid them altogeter for non urgent visit’s because they feel intimidated.The Conservative’s are the party of rot living in their own circle,not in everyday life of the population.

        ken

        December 7, 2019 at 6:35 pm

      • He has trousered over £3 MILLION in public funds?

        Shelley

        December 8, 2019 at 11:23 am

    • @trev, It just shows the elitist attitudes of these people. They don’t care about inequality, they like things just as they are.

      Helen

      December 7, 2019 at 4:34 pm

  15. Comrades do not believe the western press. Russia has not interfered in the British elections. We do not have any troops in the Ukraine. And were forced into Crimea when the people begged us for protection.

    Colonel Alexsandr Olesky

    December 7, 2019 at 1:42 pm

  16. Tory election hopeful Iain Duncan Smith has been sent a decomposed dead rat in the post in an “unacceptable act of intimidation”.

    The former party leader condemned the “suspect package” and shared shocking photographs of its contents on social media. – Huffington Post

    Rodney Rodent

    December 7, 2019 at 1:52 pm

    • IDS holds a marginal seat and might very well lose it next Wednesday. If everybody on Universal Credit voted Labour in the coming general election there would be a load of “Portillo moments” with loads of well know Tories being booted out. What a pity UC claimants are not organised and/or cannot be bothered to vote. It would be a lovely Christmas present to finally see the back of IDS. Fingers crossed and here’s hoping!

      Coldwater

      December 7, 2019 at 2:33 pm

  17. “The worst foreign policy decision in my lifetime”

    Ex Prime Minister Sir John Major urges people NOT to vote Tory!

    https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/12/07/former-tory-pm-calls-on-voters-to-abandon-conservatives-over-brexit-fiction/

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-john-major-urges-public-21038105

    It’s not looking too good for the Tories. Vote Labour.

    trev

    December 7, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    • Is it wise to take advice from a man who found Edwina Currie attractive enough to have had an adulterous sexual relationship with? I mean that’s almost as bad as Boris Johnson isn’t it? Who moved his current mistress into 10 Downing Street with him while leaving his long suffering wife at home with the four children he fathered with her with goodness knows how many other sprogs he’s spawned, with other women, at home and abroad!

      Newcastle

      December 7, 2019 at 4:50 pm

      • His personal affairs have no bearing on his knowledge and experience of international politics and finance, and in any case are of absolutely no interest to me.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 5:40 pm

      • Indeed, Jezza has an unsurpassed knowledge of international politics and finance.

        Dianne A

        December 7, 2019 at 6:03 pm

      • But more to the point, Boris doesn’t, hence John Major’s urgent plea to the public not to vote Conservative.

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 6:16 pm

      • In years past, no-one could have divorced the mother of his four children, and just moved into Downing Street as Prime Minister with another woman. The scandal would have finished anyone in public life, and that would have been it.

        Moral Guidance

        December 7, 2019 at 9:09 pm

      • Indeed! Governments have been brought down for less.

        John Profumo & Christine Keeler

        December 7, 2019 at 9:50 pm

      • Boris hasn’t divorced his wife! He’s living adulterously in Downing Street with his current girlfriend! And nobody knows how many children he has begat. If you look Boris Johnson up in Wikipedia it say he has four or six children! Boris himself won’t say and perhaps might know himself. At least the Conservatives won’t now be able to pretend that they are the party of family values, morality, marriage, stable relationships and fidelity, not with a womanising liar and charlatan like Boris Johnson as their leader. Which is something I suppose and give Boris Johnson some value.

        Mermaid's Purse

        December 8, 2019 at 10:21 am

      • current girlfriend” makes Boris sound like a cad, a man with the moral standards of a tom cat.

        Ellie

        December 8, 2019 at 11:00 am

  18. Well at least the LibDems are facing disaster, so that is some small consolation. But in the end there can be no excuse for collaboration. As the Vichy French found out after WW2.

    John Blackmore

    December 7, 2019 at 4:41 pm

  19. Is the local zoo missing something?

    Deadly Nightshade

    December 7, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    • Boris Johnson and his herd.

      ken

      December 7, 2019 at 6:37 pm

      • A herd of barstards.

        Violet

        December 7, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    • @Deadly Nightshade – No we are not missing any animals. They have all been given their food and locked up safely for the night. Sometimes I wonder which is the real zoo. The one in here here behind bars, or the one outside in the real world ?

      Zookeeper Philosopher

      December 7, 2019 at 9:00 pm

      • Ah, Plato’s Cave 😉

        trev

        December 7, 2019 at 9:09 pm

  20. Don’t know about the zoo but the circus is missing something…..send in the Clowns.

    Tigerlily

    December 7, 2019 at 9:01 pm

  21. Here is a challenge for any Tory supporters out there, read through this list of Conservative party faults and failings and see if you can possibly defend any of them (or at least five of them out of the 50 listed). Please read right to the very end before attempting to reply (to the author, Thomas G. Clark):

    https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-tory-challenge.html?m=1

    trev

    December 7, 2019 at 9:06 pm

  22. Well, it looks as if we had best tighten our belts and prepare ourselves for four or five years of a ultra-right-wing Tory government led by the crooked and dishonest Boris Johnson. Brexit will continue to divide the country and rage on in one way or another throughout that parliament and may turn out to be a poisoned chalice if, as many suspect, it all goes wrong. Jeremy Corbyn has done the best he could and fought the good fight, suffering terrible scurrilous abuse in the media, and can return to the backbenches with honour. For Mr Corbyn the struggle is effectively over and this elderly statesman should be allowed to step down when he is ready, well before the 2024/2025 general election, gradually and peacefully retiring to private life.

    Who can say what the country will be like under the leadership of truly vile, extreme and awful people like Johnson, Raab and Patel, especially separated from the might of the European Union and trying to forge new trading relationships as a small third country from a supine position of vulnerability and weakness. America, China and India might well eat Britannia alive and Christ only knows what the fate of the struggling poor and needy will be with an ambitious and cold-hearted old maid like Therese Coffey holding the reins at the DWP.

    Hopefully Labour in opposition will be able to exploit the catastrophe that looks likely to be on its way.

    Happy Christmas.

    Goodnight and good luck.

    Jim

    December 8, 2019 at 10:14 am

    • Can’t see Boris resurrecting John Major’s ill-fated, moralising ‘Back to Basics’ campaign. How did that turn out? Major was could having an affair with Edwina Currie behind his wife’s back. 😀

      Ellie

      December 8, 2019 at 11:06 am

      • Don’t forget the most important part of the message Ellie; DON’T VOTE TORY

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 12:47 pm

    • It’s not over yet Jim, the election hasn’t even happened yet! Don’t underestimate how massively popular Jeremy Corbyn is. Support for Labour is increasing daily, whilst support for the Tories is in decline. Rest assured Jeremy Corbyn will be in No.10
      Just think of all the people the Tories have attacked, underfunded, robbed and threatened over the the last decade, people who will most likely now vote Labour; all those who work for local Councils, all NHS staff, the entire Civil Service, Firefighters, WASPIs, everyone on Universal Credit or other State Benefits, everyone who works at a foodbank, everyone who works in Education, everyone involved in the Arts, Muslims, Leftwing Jews, Trade Unionists….all these people are guaranteed to vote Labour!

      trev

      December 8, 2019 at 12:57 pm

      • Good list of Labour voters, trev, and they all have one thing is common, in fact, the only thing is common and that is the hope that a Corbyn government will give to them, they are the ]gimmess’, trev. All on the lookout for a windfall, payrise, or benefit handout… And once they get what they want, they dump Labour and go back to voting Tory… It is like a shop steward once said the working man(woman) isn’t worth a ****, they are OK when you are getting something for them, but when you not longer are they turn on you. Your Labour ‘voters’ will have Corbyn roasting on a spit in the blink of an eye. Corbyn must be a right thick plank if he doesn’t know the very basics of human nature at his advanced years.

        Red Robbo

        December 8, 2019 at 3:35 pm

      • @ Red Robbo

        I have replied to your comment but my comment is being moderated for some reason. Anyway, take it from me, you are mistaken.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 3:50 pm

      • @ Red Robbo

        P.S.

        I forgot to also mention the young vote too. A lot of young people will vote Labour, especially students. Add that to all the other groups I mentioned and I think we can say Labour have the election in the bag.

        P.P.S.

        If you are a Tory why don’t you take the ‘Tory Challenge’ laid down by Thomas G. Clark on his blog Another Angry Voice. See if can successfully defend the indefensible.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 8:37 pm

  23. Andrew Coates

    December 8, 2019 at 12:23 pm

  24. Your criticism of Jeremy Corbyn includes the fact that he’s never appeared on Have I Got News For You, lol, I should hope not! Johnson only appeared on there as part of a coldly calculating cultivation of his image as an affable clown, when the opposite is true, Johnson being a very dangerous psychopath.

    trev

    December 8, 2019 at 12:33 pm

    • @ Trev – Boris Johnson’s ‘Eton Clown’ act is just a reflection of his absolute contempt for ‘Oiks’, as he would say. He is playing down to them, because that is his true estimate of their worth. And sadly it works. There are many working class Tories who don’t realise Boris not laughing with them, he’s laughing at them

      Jeff Smith

      December 8, 2019 at 4:10 pm

      • It is blatant that ‘BoJo the Clown’ is an act. Bojo is an actor, a performance artist. But it is a very well crafted act even down to the carefully-sculpted trademark ruffled hair and been lying on the bedroom floor ill-fitting crumpled suits. But it plays well in media, there is no denying it. He knows how to get a laugh out of people. He is good with kids, and does look quite comical sat behind a school desk having play dough thrown at him. Corbyn is trying to ape him, bit late in the game, with those now trademark skewed glasses that make him look like a cross between Eric Morecambe and Steptoe. Corbyn at least needs to pretend he has a sense of humour. Why so serious?

        Fenster

        December 8, 2019 at 4:38 pm

      • @ Fenster

        Why so serious? Class War is no laughing matter, neither is the unavoidable Benefits-related deaths of well over 50,000 people, or the million-plus people using foodbanks, the shocking levels of child poverty, the Privatization of our NHS, severely disabled people being declared fit for work – nothing remotely funny about any of it.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 4:57 pm

  25. trev

    December 8, 2019 at 1:26 pm

  26. If a jobcentre or a provider ever asks you to provide ID it is important to note that there is no legal requirement that you possess (photo) ID in the UK, so no penalty (sanction) can be imposed for not having (providing) it.

    Sammi

    December 8, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    • they are asking for id where i sign on esp if it is the first time you see a new coach but if you dont have anything then they will not let you sign on.

      tho they can ask you security questions instead of any id being provided but depends on the coach.

      providers are 3rd party’s for profit you dont need to show them any id or sign any of there paperwork.

      if you do sign provider contracts it then does become mandatory and they can sanction you or send you on 6 months workfare if on the hwp.

      superted

      December 8, 2019 at 2:18 pm

      • I’ve never been asked for any ID at the Jobcentre (yet), sometimes they ask me to confirm my address or date of birth, or my phone number, but not always. I’ve only been asked to provide ID at the induction of various training courses I’ve been referred to but not at the Jobcentre itself.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 2:25 pm

      • i have had to go home 2 times to get my bank card as would not let me sign on without it but it seems these ppl do what they like, or make it up as they go lol.

        cant say i have ever been asked for id buy a provider tho not that i am there long anyway 😉

        superted

        December 8, 2019 at 2:40 pm

      • It could be that they’re being awkward (with particular claimants), or perhaps it just varies from one Jobcentre to another, maybe more likely to ask for ID in a big city rather than at a Jobcentre in a small town where they get used to seeing your face and recognize you? But I think in future I’ll make a point of carrying some ID just to be on the safe side. This coming week I have yet another Group Session signing appointment, which seems to be happening often lately, I’ve been told it’s because they are short staffed.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 2:56 pm

      • “awkward with certain claimants”! What has superted ever done to peev the jobcentre off? superted is a model claimant pmsl

        Vick

        December 8, 2019 at 5:32 pm

      • No offence intended, just that they might take a dislike against individual claimants for whatever reason and single them out for extra harassment.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 5:36 pm

  27. The unemployed would certainly get a lot more ‘help and support’ from the jobcentres and providers funding no doubt by some ‘windfall tax’ on the oil companies or summat. Maybe even a ‘guaranteed job’. My local provider office has a great big “VOTE LABOUR” poster in the front window and you wonder why. Corbyn and Co. = kerching!

    Emma

    December 8, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    • They have still got a tatty remain sticker up too, used to wonder what that was all about until I read about the esf european social fund that they have their sticky fingers in. Follow the money as they say…

      Emma

      December 8, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    • But no Universal Credit, no Sanctions, and a trial of Basic Income. As for the Providers they have largely been funded by the European Social Fund, and I know that at least two Provider companies, Standguide and Interserve, are now shutting offices and making redundancies. The so-called ‘Jobs Guarantee’ was something proposed by Ed Miliban’s Glasmanite ‘Blue Labour’ that was not surprisingly rejected by most Socialists. Anyone in receipt of State Benefits, including Disability and in-work Benefits, are bound to be in a much better position under a Corbyn/McDonnell led Socialist Labour government than under the Tories, something I would have thought is absolutely obvious to anyone with half a brain.

      trev

      December 8, 2019 at 4:09 pm

      • Wasn’t Glasmanite how BoJo described Corbyn’s Labour in that debate the other night. It was some obscure word, probably Latin, anyway the subtitler didn’t pick it up either.

        Val

        December 8, 2019 at 4:13 pm

      • “no Sanctions”. Why are you posting balderdash, trev. Labour’s manifesto (not worth the pdf paper they are printed on) merely ‘pledges’ to “suspend the vicious sanctions regime”. Before it was “abolish the punitive sanctions regime” which didn’t mean what we thought it meant at first. It was Labour, er… Glasimite Labour, who introduced sanctions in the first place, brought in the for-profit providers, and was first to give the unemployed workfare under the infamous ‘New Deal’. Pretty bad form, but as you say this was ‘Glasimite’ Labour, Corbyn is a new broom…

        Maggie

        December 8, 2019 at 4:21 pm

      • @ Maggie

        It’s not balderdash. I think you’re being a wee bit pedantic and arguing over semantics there. Ok, so Labour have described the Sanctions regime as both “punitive” and “vicious”, they have said they will “suspend” and “abolish” Sanctions, either would be a good start. What have the Tories said about Sanctions? Exactly, nothing.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 5:22 pm

      • It’s not Latin, it’s a reference to Lord Glasman the guy who started the Blue Labour movement and describes himself as a “Conservative Socialist”, in other words not a Socialist and certainly nothing to do with Corbyn!

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 4:23 pm

      • Let’s face it, whoever is in No 10 Downing Street at the end of next sanctions are going nowhere and neither is Universal Credit. Corbyn hasn’t even started on his proposals for a universal credit replacement or even scetch out his universal basic income pilot despite having 10 YEARS, 10 whole years in Opposition to do so.

        Maggie

        December 8, 2019 at 4:26 pm

      • Yep. Maurice Glasman and his mate Jon Cruddas (and the dreadful little James Purnell) with their Blue Labour “family, faith, and flag” sh1te were if anything as bad if not WORSE than the Tories. I remember reading a slim book of essays called “The Politics of Paradox” by these people and thinking to myself what utter bollocks it was. Thank heavens that Glasman’s attempt to take over the Labour party failed and that both he and his disciples have drifted into a backwater that hardly anybody cares to visit these days (with Purnell having gone back to coin it in at the BBC years ago).

        Jim

        December 9, 2019 at 11:56 am

      • Lord Maurice Glasman, House of Lords, is a supporter of the Full Brexit, which brings together members of the Brexit Party (former leading member of the cultish Revolutionary Communist Party), Prof Mary Davis (Communist Party of Britain), and a wide list of eccentric right-wing former left-wingers who back Brexit and Family and Flag and Faith, amongst other things…

        https://www.thefullbrexit.com/about

        Andrew Coates

        December 9, 2019 at 1:07 pm

      • Maurice Glasman and his Blue Labour thing became influential briefly thanks to Ed Miliband’s flirtation with its ideas, such as they were, which were pretty ugly, nasty, authoritarian and punitive: Miliband probably thought that by injecting a good dose of tub-thumping toxic social-conservatism into the Labour party he might be able to out Tory the Tories.

        Laughably I got banned from LabourList after addressing Glasman a “daft old bugger” when commenting on an article he had written and published on that site. Considering what I actually thought of Glasman and his ideas I thought that was a pretty restrained insult really because his Lordship is certainly “daft” and definitely “old” although perhaps I went a little too far when calling him a “bugger” having no knowledge as per his love life and/or sexual preferences!

        Jim

        December 9, 2019 at 6:40 pm

      • He’s not actually that old, around about the same age as me!

        trev

        December 9, 2019 at 6:43 pm

  28. In the papers, a thalidomide victim without arms or legs, having to ‘prove’ he can’t work. What do the DWP expect him to do in the way of work ? Jesus H. Christ – I am sick of this Tory Cruelty. The way things are going people who are dead are going to have to go down to the Jobcentre, and prove they are dead.

    Rob G.

    December 8, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    • I am sure I seen a woman in a wheelchair with Jeremy Corbyn. She had really deformed arms and a blanket over what looked like no legs. Thought he was presenting her as a victim of ‘Tory cuts’ but oh know she is standing (no pun intended) as an MP. Didn’t catch the name unfortunately. The DWP seem to think that there are a lot of shirkers out there who simply don’t want to work, and some who have real, exaggerated or completely made-up physical or mental impairments that they hide behind and use as a convenient excuse to avoid work. They may be right, they may be wrong but they certainly appear to be of that opinion.

      Aatiqah

      December 8, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    • Disgusting, evil Tory bastards. That is why we need to vote Labour. Anyone who doesn’t vote Labour is actively supporting such cruelty and injustice, and ensuring that it will continue. If you have any shred of a conscience you will vote Labour.

      trev

      December 8, 2019 at 4:13 pm

      • ans

        December 9, 2019 at 9:45 am

      • @ and

        So you think it is appropriate to take the piss out of a man with no limbs, a Thalidomide victim, being harassed by the DWP. The only conclusion I can draw from such a despicable display of insensitivity is that you must be a Tory. If so, have you taken the ‘Tory Challenge’ issued by Thomas G. Clark on his blog Another Angry Voice? Give it a go, see if your limited intellect is capable of defending the indefensible.

        trev

        December 9, 2019 at 10:20 am

      • ans, just to help you out here’s the link:

        https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-tory-challenge.html?m=1

        I know the internet can be a bit daunting to beginners but if you place your cursor (or finger) on the writing above and click the link it will take you to the relevant website, just in case you don’t know how to use Google (that’s a search engine that most of us grown ups use), persevere and you’ll get the hang of it soon enough.

        trev

        December 9, 2019 at 10:39 am

  29. Is it appropriate to be wandering about Mayfair at 4am, wondering which upper-class tart is going to get the Royal Willy ?

    Roy Republican

    December 8, 2019 at 4:29 pm

    • @Roy Republican – Being a Royal Prince is not just about wearing different uniforms, and standing about on balconies. It’s not about trying to see how many Air Miles you can collect. Or how many pheasants you can shoot before lunchtime. It is about setting a standard of behaviour. A moral lead to the citizens of this country.

      Cynthia Hartley-Brown

      December 8, 2019 at 5:11 pm

  30. I am Barack Obama and I approve this message.

    Barack Obama

    December 8, 2019 at 4:43 pm

  31. Those of you who put great faith in the opinion polls might find this interesting:

    https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/12/08/labour-has-surged-in-the-opinion-polls-but-theres-only-one-poll-that-counts/

    trev

    December 8, 2019 at 5:03 pm

    • Mark Carney, Governor of the Bank of England puts great faith in bookies odds. The bookies odds reflect all available information at the present time. Of course the sentiment can change at any time. It doesn’t take much to spook the markets. Rattling good odds on a Corbyn landslide at the moment.

      Gypsy Rose Lee

      December 8, 2019 at 5:22 pm

      • Well I hope so 😊. I don’t base my opinions entirely on statistics or polls but my intuition or gut feeling is that a Labour victory is quite possible. A lot of the British public are pretty thick, possibly gullible and misinformed, but they are not all as green as they are cabbage-looking, to coin an old phrase. The Tories record of abuse and neglect to people and Society, the amount of damage they have wilfully inflicted, cannot be overlooked. By the lack of response to Thomas G. Clark’s ‘Tory Challenge’ it seems that no one is able to defend the indefensible, or are even willing to attempt to!

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 5:43 pm

  32. This is what a Privatized NHS will mean. This is what will happen if the Tories remain in government. Vote Labour to stop them.

    https://beastrabban.wordpress.com/2019/12/08/politicaljoe-shocks-brits-with-the-cost-of-healthcare-in-america/

    trev

    December 8, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    • Too right – Even if you don’t care about politics – Vote Labour to save the NHS !!
      Because the Tories will sell it all, bit by bit, to the private sector.

      Alan Turner

      December 8, 2019 at 9:52 pm

  33. I don’t think people realise just how much danger the NHS is in from the Tories. They mean to privatise it, whatever they may pretend to the contrary.If you leave them in charge of the NHS, as former PM John Major said, it will be like leaving your pet hamster in the care of a hungry python. And once it has gone, what hope will there be for getting it back ?

    Tom Sutton

    December 8, 2019 at 10:00 pm

  34. Why is ‘Sorry We Missed You’ taking so long to be released? This should have been ‘out’ ages ago. Or does Ken Loach expect us to pay to watch this? Some socialist!

    Free Shit

    December 8, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    • It’s been shown at cinemas all over the country, sneak in through the fire exit if you’re skint.

      trev

      December 8, 2019 at 11:06 pm

    • @free Shit – Yeah agree on that. It wouldn’t hurt to put this up on Youtube, so people can watch it for free.

      Peter B.

      December 8, 2019 at 11:08 pm

    • I, Daniel Blake was in the cinemas around the same time and was ‘released’ well before Christmas. And here we are nearly into 2020 and not even a copy with hard-coded korean subttiles. Krishnan Guru-Murthy should have pulled Loach up about this when he was on Channel 4 News the other night banging on about poverty. The man is loaded yet he still wants people’s benefit money to watch his films. It is greedy capitalists pigs like Ken Loach who cause poverty in the first place.

      Steph

      December 8, 2019 at 11:21 pm

      • So you’re blaming Ken Loach for causing poverty, do you accept that the Tories have caused a lot more poverty and have done so quite deliberately? Yes or no.

        trev

        December 8, 2019 at 11:34 pm

      • Yeah well, trev….. wasn’t it Ken Loach who when we was Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions who lumbered us with universal credit and a host of other so-called ‘welfare reforms’. Or was it someone else? Or is my mind playing tricks? If that isn’t causing poverty I don’t know what is never mind ten bloody quid just to go and see a flaming flim. Why not show it on t’ TV? We ain’t all made of money!

        Mad Mental Mary

        December 8, 2019 at 11:53 pm

      • Yeah well, trev,it was Ken Loach who when he was in charge at the bloody DWP who lumbered us with universal credit and a host of other so-called ‘welfare reforms’. Or was it someone else? Or is my mind playing tricks? If that isn’t causing poverty I don’t know what is never mind ten bloody quid just to go and see a flaming flim. Why not show it on t’ TV? We ain’t all made of money you know!

        Mad Mental Mary

        December 8, 2019 at 11:56 pm

      • I haven’t been to the cinema for donkeys years but when I lived in Bradford a few years back the Pictureville cinema did an Unemployed Matinee on Friday mornings for £1 admission. I’m old enough to remember the Saturday morning children’s matinee called the ABC Minors which was a shilling for the whole Saturday morning, in the days before kids tv existed, they showed all sorts of old films such as the Lone Ranger, Lassie, Zorro, and really old comedy films from the 30s, but this was in the late 60s, and cartoons like Mighty Mouse. Then the Banana Splits came out on tv and that was the end of the Children’s cinema matinee.

        trev

        December 9, 2019 at 12:08 am

      • Mary, you’re MAD, did I tell you you’re MAD. MAD, bleedin’ MAD! MAD as a bleedin’ hatter!

        Mrs Angry

        December 9, 2019 at 12:03 am

      • I’d never been in a foodbank till that Daniel Blake came out. I AM MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!

        Mrs MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        December 9, 2019 at 12:21 am

    • Jeremy Corbyn will be handing out a FREE copy to everyone when he wins the election. It’s in the manifesto.

      D Abbott

      December 8, 2019 at 11:25 pm

    • Dear all

      It appears that some of our patients have escaped from our secure facility this evening. Many, most sincere apologies. Let me assure you that our security procedures have since been tightened at it most certainly won’t happen again.

      Kind regards

      Dr Shrink; Dip Psych MSc, BSc, PhD, BBC, ITN, MFI

      Dr Shrink; Dip Psych MSc, BSc, PhD, BBC, ITN, MFI

      December 9, 2019 at 12:32 am

  35. ‘LibDem leader Jo Swinson today revealed she has been urged to wear lower cut tops to boost her party’s electoral chances.
    Ms Swinson said the extraordinary tip was among a welter of ‘unsolicited advice’ she has received on how to revive her flagging campaign .’ – Daily Mail

    Harry Carter

    December 9, 2019 at 12:23 pm

  36. @Harry- Won’t make any difference, the LibDem campaign has already gone tits-up.

    Barry G.

    December 9, 2019 at 12:33 pm

  37. The Tories have turned the UK into a Third World country. A four year old boy with suspected pneumonia was left on a hospital floor for hours on end:

    https://skwawkbox.org/2019/12/08/this-is-jack-hes-4-he-lay-4-hours-on-leeds-hospital-floor-last-week-with-suspected-pneumonia-vote-labour-to-end-nhs-collapse/

    trev

    December 9, 2019 at 1:08 pm

  38. @trev- We can expect a full-on trashing of Corbyn by the right-wing media over the next few days. It shows how much they fear a Labour Party victory.

    Harriet D.

    December 9, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    • Boris is coming in for some criticism too at the moment. I think he’s bitten off more than he can chew by trying to convert the Geordies into Tories, that will never happen! And I can tell you right now he definitely won’t get a welcome in South Yorkshire that’s for sure, people have long memories, the Miners strike is still current news in South Yorks. They burn effigies of Thatcher!

      trev

      December 9, 2019 at 3:33 pm

      • Andrew Coates

        December 9, 2019 at 4:35 pm

      • Moving the country forward….waffle..stammer..making investments…waffle…waffle….[pockets reporter’s phone]…waffle…stammer…

        Either hugely embarrassed or in denial, or a kleptomaniac!

        trev

        December 9, 2019 at 4:45 pm

  39. End The Uncertainty – Vote Labour !!

    Jack Reid

    December 9, 2019 at 5:43 pm

  40. trev

    December 9, 2019 at 10:04 pm


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