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Labour Manifesto: Scrap Universal Credit and “end poverty by guaranteeing a minimum standard of living.”

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Labour’s Manifesto is out today.

Here is the section our Contributors will focus on.

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Social Security.

While Labour wants a society in which people care for one another, the Tories are trying to pitch us against each other.

Under the Tories, the social security system has lost sight of its purpose. Poverty has become endemic, the glue that binds our society together has come unstuck and, in the words of the United Nations, the UK’s social safety net ‘has been deliberately removed and replaced with a harsh and uncaring ethos’. The cruelty and heartlessess of the Tories has made the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) a symbol of fear. When people feel the DWP is more about harassment than a helping hand, something has gone seriously wrong.

Labour will completely change this culture, replacing the DWP on day one with a Department for Social Security, which will be there to help and support people, not punish and police them.

Universal Credit

The Tories’ flagship social security programme, Universal Credit (UC), has been a catastrophe. It has pushed thousands of people into poverty, caused families to lose their homes and forced parents to visit food banks in order to feed their children.

Labour will scrap UC.

We will immediately stop moving people onto it and design an alternative system that treats people with dignity and respect.

Our ambition in designing this system will be to end poverty by guaranteeing a minimum standard of living.

We will start developing this system immediately. But we have learned the lessons from Tory failure: major policy change can’t be delivered overnight, especially when people’s lives depend
on it.

So we will also implement an emergency package of reforms to mitigate some of the worst features of UC while we develop our replacement system.

  • We will end the five-week wait by introducing an interim payment based on half an estimated monthly entitlement.
  • We will immediately suspend the Tories’ vicious sanction regime and ensure that employment support is positive not punitive.
  • We will stop 300,000 children from being in poverty by scrapping the benefit cap and the two child limit, so ending the immoral and outrageous ‘rape clause’.
  • We will pay childcare costs up front so that parents aren’t forced to turn down work or get into debt to pay for childcare.
  • Labour will protect women in abusive relationships by splitting payments and paying the child element to the primary carer.
  • We will make it easier for people to manage their living costs by introducing fortnightly payments and paying the housing element directly to landlords.
  •  The Conservative’s ‘digital only’ approach is excluding vulnerable people. Labour will end the digital barrier and offer telephone, face-to-face and outreach support.
  • We will recruit 5,000 additional advisors to deliver this.
  • Tory cuts are pushing people into rent arrears and leaving them at risk of homelessness. We will stop housing costs running away from benefits by scrapping the bedroom tax and increasing the Local Housing Allowance.

In the meantime:

Priti Patel says poverty “isn’t the government’s fault” while stood in a food bank

“Everybody just says it’s the Government as if it’s this sort of like bland blob that you know, you can just go and blame.”

Priti Patel has been criticised for arrogantly dismissing the government’s role in poverty while stood in a food bank in Barrow.

The Home Secretary attempted to push blame onto local authorities during an interview, even though local government has suffered “enormously from vicious Tory cuts”, Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell said.

When told that four in 10 children in parts of Barrow, Cumbria, are born into poverty, she told BBC North West Tonight: “Well it’s appalling.

“But of course everybody, and it’s not just people in Westminster, it’s not just at a national level it’s at a local level.”

Written by Andrew Coates

November 21, 2019 at 11:57 am

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  1. Andrew Coates

    November 21, 2019 at 12:13 pm

  2. Excellent manifesto from Labour, and all fully costed. No wonder the Tories are having to resort to spite and dirty tricks. If only people have the sense to vote Labour on 12th December. These policies could solve so much for everyone in society.

    Jeff Smith

    November 21, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    • I’m glad they got in the issue of sanctions and other really unpleasant details, including the “all online” issue, about Universal Credit that need changing and replacing

      Andrew Coates

      November 21, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    • Lokking forward to reading it later when time allows me! a labour supporter

      xclausx

      November 21, 2019 at 1:00 pm

  3. Sounds great,what’s not to like? Vote Labour, you know it makes sense.

    trev

    November 21, 2019 at 2:45 pm

  4. Reblogged this on Tory Britain!.

    A6er

    November 21, 2019 at 5:07 pm

  5. Some rather biased negative reporting by Laura Kuenssberg on BBC News just now, and further scepticism and doubt expressed in the reporting of this in BBC studio, not surprising considering the obscenely large salaries of BBC news reporters, inevitably and predictably the Establishment can’t bear the thought of a Socialist government. Yet another good reason to vote Labour.

    trev

    November 21, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    • @trev- What else can you expect from the BBC these days ? The mouthpiece of the establishment.

      Alan Turner

      November 21, 2019 at 7:20 pm

  6. How the Tories have been able to spoon-feed austerity to the British people for so long, knowing that it wasn’t doing any good, I’ll never know.

    Harry Carter

    November 21, 2019 at 7:29 pm

  7. The media keep saying there’s a skills shortage in the construction industry. No, construction sites are run like prison camps with absolutely no respect for the workers. Why would anybody choose to work in a hire/fire daily contract where there is zero respect for experienced tradesmen.

    Mallet

    November 21, 2019 at 9:46 pm

  8. hey, we work in a nail car n a car wash n we say it is good that labour will give us full and equal rights from day one. listen to what the man says n get out n vote.

    winston and grace

    November 21, 2019 at 11:33 pm

  9. It seems like Corbyn is going to put the unemployed to work under a giant ‘Jobs Guarantee’ scheme building houses for when he swings the borders wide open.

    Acuri

    November 22, 2019 at 12:16 am

    • If they are full-time, decently paid and within fairly easy commutable distances form home – fantastic!

      Jim

      November 22, 2019 at 8:15 am

    • I think the Prime Minister should come clean and say exactly what he knows about American Pole Dancing.

      Brent Varner

      November 22, 2019 at 12:08 pm

      • The Metropolitan Police have been strangely silent on the subject of Prince Andrew. He gets 24/7 protection from Royalty Protection officers, who follow him like a shadow. They keep detailed logs of everywhere he goes for security reasons. So when he went, to Woking Pizza Express. The protection officers went along as well. And presumably they had some pizza too ? Either way, the Met are in a position to exactly confirm the date and time of this visit. Why have they not done so ?
        Secondly, when Prince Andrew stayed at Epstein’s now notorious house in New York, his protection officers will have had to go as well, to protect him. So they are again in a position to confirm the date of the visit, And also what happened within the house, during the time that Prince Andrew was there.
        Why has the Met not done so ? And also, why did Emily Maitlis not ask any questions about the issue of these Royalty Protection officers ? Or was this a bridge too far for the BBC ?

        Alan Turner

        November 22, 2019 at 4:58 pm

      • Good points Alan. I may be wrong but I think they use Special Branch officers, and they are probably sworn to secrecy, possibly governed by the Official Secrets Act.

        trev

        November 22, 2019 at 5:16 pm

  10. Why we shouldn’t forget Jeremy Corbyn’s contemptible past:

    Thirty-four years ago on the 12th of October, 1984 – at 2.54 a.m. to be precise – a bomb tore through the Grand Brighton Hotel during the Conservative Party conference. Anthony Berry, MP for Enfield Southgate, was killed, along with Muriel Maclean, Eric Taylor, Jeanne Shattock and Roberta Wakeham. Margaret Tebbit was left paralysed and Margaret Thatcher only narrowly escaped the blast. The device had been planted by IRA member Patrick Magee and the IRA released an infamous statement claiming responsibility:
    ‘Today we were unlucky, but remember, we only have to be lucky once; you will have to be lucky always.’
    They did get lucky again, but the Brighton bombing was the closest they would come to assassinating a British prime minister. Neil Kinnock wrote to Mrs Thatcher after the attack to profess himself ‘horrified and outraged at this terrible atrocity’ and to describe the terrorists as ‘the sworn enemies of all the people of normal mind and reasoning politics’.

    One of his backbenchers, however, took a different tack. Two weeks after a Tory MP and four others were murdered, Jeremy Corbyn invited two convicted IRA terrorists to Parliament. Two years later, Corbyn was arrested at a ‘solidarity’ demo for Patrick Magee and other IRA members outside their trial at the Old Bailey. By this point the court had already heard that Magee’s palm prints were found on the registration card for the hotel room in which the bomb was planted and his fingerprints on a bombing calendar listing further atrocities to be carried out in the year after Brighton. Corbyn was arrested for obstruction at the demo and spent a few hours down the local cop shop. He later wrote a note to the protest organiser, on House of Commons headed notepaper, saying: ‘Thanks for your help, hope you get out as I did! All the best, Jeremy.’
    Labour MPs evidently do not grasp the significance of this behaviour, for they continue to sit behind this man and campaign to make him Prime Minister.

    So, what if two weeks after Jo Cox was murdered a backbench Tory invited members of National Action to Parliament? What if, while her murderer Thomas Mair was in court declaring ‘death to traitors’, that same Tory MP was outside at a ‘solidarity’ vigil? What if that Tory MP had been willing to get himself arrested for the pleasure? And what if he had written a cheery note to the organiser of the demo?
    Now imagine that Tory MP ended up party leader one day. How would Labour MPs respond? Would they cut his backbenchers the same slack they cut themselves? Would they shrug their shoulders and say, ‘Oh, they’re just being loyal party people’ or ‘He’s doing well in the polls’? Would they empathise with the Tory MPs and members who said they were staying to fight for their party’s ‘soul’? Would they hell. They would be howling and marching and demanding every last Tory MP resign. And they’d be right.
    Instead, Labour MPs have surrendered – those, that is, who bothered putting up a fight in the first place – and decided to go along with Corbyn and his moment. They reason that, yes, he’s a despicable man but he may get them back into government or at least get rid of this government. Even those who do not believe this hang around and do their bit to put Corbyn in power because, however much extremism and anti-Semitism pain them, walking away from the Labour Party would hurt them more. This is how Corbynism corrupts the soul and tribalism poisons the antidote. They have more in common with Corbyn than that which divides them.

    Have the Brighton murders receded sufficiently from our collective memory to lose their visceral horror? Has it has been so long since we heard insidious apologism for the IRA that the thought of it can’t quite stir the same hot contempt?

    The generations that have come since may regard Britain as an illegal occupier, Ulster the West Bank across the Irish Sea and Gerry Adams an avuncular freedom-fighter. Among the semi-ironic alt-leftists who ‘stan’ Corbyn on social media – the Lmaoists and the Lolsheviks – political violence is a source of boisterous humour and vicarious thrills, just another level unlocked in Call of Duty.
    But, however unfashionable it may be right now, the past matters. Truth matters. Jeremy Corbyn’s character matters. And the character of this country – and what would become of it if we made this man our Prime Minister – matters!

    Brtish Army Squaddies - 33th Brigade

    November 22, 2019 at 12:26 am

    • Corbyn is a man of integrity. He helped bring peace in Northern Ireland, which involved speaking to paramilitaries on both sides, the Republicans AND Loyalists, a fact the critics always neglect to mention, and he was invited to do so by Mo Mowlam as part of the peace process. Your Sophist tactics don’t fool me. You don’t mention anything about Boris Johnson laying a wreath upside down at the cenotaph this year, and the BBC then editing it out by replacing it with a clip of footage from 2016.

      This is how the Tories treat ex-soldiers:

      https://welfareweekly.com/dwp-face-inquest-into-death-of-diabetic-ex-soldier-hit-by-cruel-benefits-sanction/

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/09/david-clapson-benefit-sanctions-death-government-policies

      https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/11/11/the-brutal-difference-between-what-tories-say-and-what-they-do/

      trev

      November 22, 2019 at 11:15 am

      • Corbyn is not very clever though and this worries the heck out of folk: although a day pupil at a grammar school he only managed to achieve two grade E (lowest possible passing grade) A levels before leaving school at 18. He did not go to university and has no undergraduate degree and or any kind of professional qualification or achievements whatsoever. He has never owned or run a business or done a single thing outside of politics of noteworthiness. Before being elected leader of the Labour party in 2015 his career as a backbencher was completely undistinguished and he was never invited to play even the most junior role available (PPS) in any previous Labour government. has first He is a Brexiteer but won’t admit it saying immediately after the EU referendum that Article 50 should be triggered at once and that we should leave the EU as soon as possible. He advocated printing money and giving it away to the “people” seemingly ignorant of the fact that doing so leads to hyperinflation. Corbyn is a pacifist that would like to see NATO disbanded and the UK cut its armed forces and give up nuclear weapons, unilaterally, without securing nuclear reciprocal disarmament in respect to other countries by means of properly negotiated and comprehensive watertight international treaties.

        This in NOT a man fit to be Prime Minister and the voting public know it.

        And neither is Boris Johnson although he is going, by all accounts, to end up in Downing Street by default.

        Reef Knot

        November 22, 2019 at 4:11 pm

      • Corbyn spent years as a well regarded councillor and activist in Haringey, a place I grew up in.

        After becoming Labour MP for Islington North,the place I was born in, he notched up a great deal of respect on the left – and controversy – as a campaigner.

        He has never been unknown.

        Corbyn works as part of a Labour Party team, we are in election contest between parties, not a Presidential race between individuals.

        Andrew Coates

        November 22, 2019 at 5:05 pm

    • Ex-Royal Navy amputee left to live on £16 per month and told to get a job:

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/royal-navy-amputee-stranded-16-20929630

      https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/11/22/dwp-leaves-navy-amputee-with-16-a-month-and-tells-him-get-a-job/

      This is the sort of mistreatment Corbyn is opposed to, the sort of inhumane treatment metered out by the Tories.

      trev

      November 22, 2019 at 1:11 pm

  11. Although Labour won’t win with Corbyn as the party’s leader, no matter what lavish promises they have made in any manifesto, I hope that enough Labour-Brexiteers in the north of the country stick with the party in big enough numbers to stop Boris Johnson from getting a majority. The amount of sly and bent propaganda being put out by the Conservatives does indicate that the Tories are worried though and I am praying that these people will not end up with free reign to do whatever they want for up to five years; if they do then a good deal of the blame for such a catastrophe deserves to be heaped onto the shoulders of Jeremy Corbyn personally.

    Pop goes the Weasel

    November 22, 2019 at 7:40 am

    • @This is very true Trev. The Tories won’t make any changes, they’ll just carry on exactly as they are. So now is the time for people to put minor issues aside, and think clearly. Only Labour are big enough to take down the Tories. So, if you want change, if you want to see the NHS saved, and a fairer, decent society, Vote Labour !!

      Malcolm S.

      November 22, 2019 at 12:05 pm

  12. trev

    November 22, 2019 at 11:59 am

  13. I see the Daily Mail have started in on the Corbyn Disaster stuff already. It’s strange to see people who don’t seem to see, or to care about the dreadful poverty and inequality in this country. They don’t seem the least concerned about the poverty, or notice the homelessness, the massive rise in foodbanks. Even they must surely see the people sleeping on the streets around them ? But they carry on as if none of this is happening. And are far more concerned about the fact that, God forbid, wealthy people and multinational companies should pay a few pounds more in tax. In order to fund a decent NHS, and some sort of Social Security for everyone. Astonishing. But this has always been the the problem with Conservatism, selfishness, and a total disregard for others who have less. And the further towards the right-wing you go, the worse it gets.

    Jeff Smith

    November 22, 2019 at 12:00 pm

    • When I was writing this post in Ipswich Library there was a group of young people nearby talking about meeting later the Soup Kitchen…..

      Andrew Coates

      November 22, 2019 at 12:09 pm

    • The Right wing are vermin, they represent the absolute worst in humanity, though of course it is always a balancing act between the power of the State and the freedom of the individual, whilst ensuring equality and care of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged if we are to have a civilized Society. None of us want to live in North Korea, but we have to redress the horrendous imbalance of power, the massive inequality of the distribution of wealth, and living standards. Socialism (N.B. not Communism) has to be the answer to these problems and the way to provide a decent Society for all.

      trev

      November 22, 2019 at 12:14 pm

      • Absolutely right-on Trev ! This country has been driven to the brink by the whole austerity crap. You have only to look at the million plus using foodbanks, the kids going hungry and people sleeping on the streets. Round where I live they are a regular sight.
        Just because you live in a nice house with a garden and your kids in private school, doesn’t mean that you are not part of society.

        John Kendall

        November 22, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    • A Labour MP was on the news the other day saying that they had done a calculation on the back of a fag packet. And did you know that if a worker earning £30,000 a year paid the same tax rate as Amazon their tax bill would come in at £17 a year!

      The punters are sick of hearing about companies who don’t pay their taxes – Amazon, Facebook, Google, Apple, Starbucks… Either do something about it or shut up.

      A simple idea for the ‘tech giants’ would be to simply BLOCK their websites. Add them to the block list along with the ‘file-sharing’ and ‘porn’ sites. It would bring down there business in the UK overnight. Other businesses who do pay taxes would move in and fill the void. As for Apple and Starbucks stores kick them off the bleeding High Street. The Government has the power to kick these criminals into touch. But instead they do sweet f all which tells you everything you need to know.

      Lady Sugar

      November 22, 2019 at 12:54 pm

      • Consumers can bring these bastards down simply by BOYCOTTING them.

        Amazon – not even the cheapest, tries to trick you into joining ‘Prime’, a lot of the items can only be purchased by ‘Prime’ members, turning into an online Costco.

        Facebook – only the brain dead and insane use ‘social media’

        Google – plenty of other search engines/browsers are available. And much better than the spyware shit that Google offers

        Apple – you must have more money than sense to purchase an Apple product

        Starbucks – other coffee shops are available

        BOYCOTT Tax Dodgers

        November 22, 2019 at 2:11 pm

      • superted

        November 22, 2019 at 2:41 pm

  14. trev

    November 22, 2019 at 2:58 pm

  15. Javid and Whittingdale’s twin job is to dismantle the edifice of public service broadcasting. ITV to be sold abroad; Channel 4 to be privatised; the BBC is to be scaled back enormously. The ‘red button’ text service to be scrapped in early 2020. At the next election, it will be the print and social media that set the political agenda in the Tory interest. Public service broadcasters will be greatly less influential and by 2025 largely marginalised.

    — Will Hutton, The Observer, 13,09,15

    Will Hutton

    November 22, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    • None of that is right. That’s a cut ‘n’ paste from four years ago and none of that has happened. And, in point of fact, John Whittingdale left government three years ago in 2016 and has nothing to do with Culture, Media and Sport any more.

      Red-eared Slider

      November 22, 2019 at 4:15 pm

  16. This is the current bookies odds for the General Election on 12/12/19

    Most Seats:
    Conservatives 1/25
    Labour 10/1
    Liberal Democrats 100/1
    Brexit Party 500/1
    Green Party 500/1

    Overall Majority:
    Conservative Majority 1/2
    No Overall Majority 7/4
    Labour Majority 25/1
    Liberal Democrat majority 250/1
    Green Majority 500/1

    Government After Next Election:
    Conservatives Majority 1/2
    Labour Minority 5/1
    Conservatives Minority 5/1
    Lab/SNP Coalition 25/1
    Lab/LD/SNP Coalition 25/1
    Cons/Brexit Coalition 25/1
    Labour Majority 25/1
    Lab/LD Coalition 33/1
    Cons/LD Coalition 40/1
    Cons/Lab coalition 66/1
    Liberal Democrat majority 150/1
    LD/SNP Coalition 250/1
    Lib Dem Minority 250/1

    Prime Minister After Next Election:
    Boris Johnson 1/4
    Jeremy Corbyn 5/2
    Jo Swinson 33/1
    Keir Starmer 66/1
    Sajid Javid 66/1
    Dominic Raab 1001/1
    Jeremy Hunt 100/1

    Gambling can be addictive, please bet responsibly. When the fun stops STOP!

    Paddy Power

    November 22, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    • When the fun stops…if the Tories win there will never be any fun ever again in the foreseeable future, just the dark clouds of oppression above us until we finally are released through the blessing of an untimely death that will make even the cold hands of the Reaper seem welcoming.

      trev

      November 22, 2019 at 8:34 pm

  17. Replacing the DWP “on day one” sounds good… at first. Then you realise that it can only mean that the existing DWP and all the nasty individuals who work for it would simply be rebranded as the “new” DSS.

    The DWP needs to be neutered on day one – scrap sanctions and so on – but it needs to continue until a completely new DSS is ready to take over. People now working in the DWP must not be allowed to join the new DSS. A clean break is needed or the underlying culture will remain just as nasty as it is now and the scumbags will lie and cheat so that nothing really changes.

    Dan

    November 22, 2019 at 8:53 pm

    • No doubt it will be the same staff but working to a new directive under different rules and a different regime and culture. Personally I’d like to see all the Jobcentres shut down and either demolished or converted into flats or shops, or IT centres/libraries.

      trev

      November 22, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    • A much better name for the DWP would be The Department Of Rest & Compassion. And get rid of that awful jobcentre decor, that looks like something out of the 80’s. Pastel colours, a more restful ambience, that’s what is needed. And also get rid of Work Coaches – patronising crap. Replace these with Counsellors, like Counsellor Troi on Star Trek. There is a lot the government could do to make claiming social security as pleasant as possible. Not make an ordeal out of it.

      Rodney Jarvis

      November 23, 2019 at 3:30 pm

      • DWP = Department for Worry and Persecution

        trev

        November 23, 2019 at 3:46 pm

  18. Never mind, as The Labour party will lose the election anyway. So debating about Labour policies is all academic.

    B Johnson

    November 22, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    • Who would you like to win the election?

      trev

      November 22, 2019 at 11:04 pm

      • Nobody. I want another hung parliament whose paralysis leads to a people’s vote and revocation of Article 50 when a majority vote in that referendum to remain in the EU. Boris Johnson and his ugly Brexiteer bully boys will be toast. Nigel Farage will continue bleating his spiteful nonsense from the sidelines until he has a heart attack or stroke and the rest of us can move on and the nation eventually return to some semblance of sanity.

        Bush Baby

        November 23, 2019 at 8:58 am

      • Statistically if the Tories go into the election with at least a ten point lead they should win with a majority. A six or seven point lead for the Conservatives would put chances of a majority in danger while less than a six point lead predicts another hung parliament. At the moment the latest polls have the Tories with a double digit lead over Labour with the general election twenty days away.

        Jay Cloth

        November 23, 2019 at 9:18 am

      • Well it’s all very well quoting all those spurious facts & figures, or making negative statements off the top of your head like the person posting under the name “B. Johnson”, but just say who YOU would like to win.

        trev

        November 23, 2019 at 10:49 am

      • Until the Conservative manifesto is made public and all the manifesto’s are analysed and pored over nobody can be sure which way the election will go. Many a slip between cup and lip as they say. Just look at how the Liberal Democrats are plummeting in the polls after basing their campaign on Jo Swinson’s personal appeal.

        That’s the truth.

        Rob

        November 23, 2019 at 9:23 am

  19. Labour’s manifesto includes a commitment to scrap the 25% single occupancy Council Tax reduction. The SNP up in Scotchland have ALREADY scrapped this. So there we have Labour copying SNP polices yet again.

    Wootton Bassett

    November 23, 2019 at 8:50 am

    • That’s a weird one because Labour and the Liberal Democrats have both announced plans to abolish the hated Bedroom Tax.

      Attila the Gardener

      November 23, 2019 at 9:01 am

    • Factually this proposal ISN’T in the manifesto, I’ve read all of it. It is was mentioned as a suggestion in a document written in June this year. Just a suggestion though rather than fact, along with the suggestion of the 10% least valuable properties in each region being totally tax free.

      Booker

      November 23, 2019 at 9:26 am

      • Labour has a DRAFT manifesto out a few weeks ago. A lot has changed.

        Rubarisa

        November 23, 2019 at 1:18 pm

      • You can download the Labour Manifesto for FREE here:

        https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/

        There is no mention of abolishing the 25% single occupancy Council Tax reduction. Download the document and see for yourselves. There’s a lot of anti-Labour fake news popping up on this blog which makes me thing that at least one Tory (I think its one Tory) is bored and has nothing better to do than make things up and/or regurgitate garbage he/she has bumped into on the web.

        I than’ you.

        Alethiometer

        November 23, 2019 at 2:26 pm

  20. Andrew Coates

    November 23, 2019 at 10:24 am

    • Labour haven’t even began designing an alternative to universal credit. How many years have they had to get some groundwork done at least? There is nothing for the unemployed under Labour expect for a mass workfare scheme disguised as a ‘jobs guarantee’ run by the same ‘providers’ no doubt and backed up by brutal sanctions for ‘non-compliance’.

      Bo

      November 23, 2019 at 1:14 pm

      • So from that comment I take it you’ll be voting Tory then Bo? Because you think that the unemployed will be treated better by the Tories than they will by Labour. You’re implying that Labour will be worse, or no better, than the Tories in their treatment of the unemployed, is that correct? You would presumably prefer to leave Universal Credit in place, and the Sanctions continued. Labour have said they will scrap Universal Credit and Sanctions, why don’t you believe that?

        trev

        November 23, 2019 at 3:20 pm

      • This is what the Labour manifesto says on Universal Credit. Manifestos don’t amount to a row of beans in any case.

        “Labour will scrap UC. We will immediately stop moving people onto it and design an alternative system that
        treats people with dignity and respect. Our ambition in designing this system will be to end poverty by guaranteeing a minimum standard of living. We will start developing this system immediately. But we have learned the lessons from Tory failure: major policy change can’t be delivered overnight, especially when people’s lives depend on it. So we will also implement an emergency package of reforms to mitigate some of the worst features of UC while we develop our replacement system.

        We will end the five-week wait by introducing an interim payment based on half an estimated monthly
        entitlement.”

        And all the Labour Manifesto has to say on sanctions is:

        “We will immediately suspend the Tories’ vicious sanction regime and ensure that employment support is positive not punitive”

        We have been through this before with the “punitive sanctions regime”. But it didn’t mean the regime in totality, certainly not the sanctions dished out to the unemployed. ALL sanctions are punitive and vicious.
        We are still waiting for Labour to say that they will END ALL SANCTIONS – WITHOUT EXCEPTION! Having to attend a office when, like the bloke on the video superted posted, you know that the only objective of the person on the other side of the desk is to STOP YOUR CLAIM, to deprive you of your sole income, that you may end up going cap-in-hand to a foodbank or worse, end up homeless is no way to live. It places an enormous stress on claimants and destroys their health. Sanctions have NO PLACE in a SOCIAL SECURITY system. Sanctions are cruel , punitive and barbaric. And anyone who supports them in any way, shape or from is pure unadulterated evil.

        T Watson

        November 23, 2019 at 4:52 pm

      • Labour’s statement that you quoted on the subject of Universal Credit and Sanctions sounds reasonable enough to me. It’s certainly better than anything you will hear from the Tories, IDS or George Osborn would have never made such an announcement and neither will Coffey or Boris. And it is a big change to Labour’s stance under Ed Miliband, when they abstained from voting against the Welfare reform Bill and were in favour of Benefit Sanctions. It shows that they have moved a long way since then under Messrs. Corbyn & McDonnell, and I see that as a positive step forward.

        trev

        November 23, 2019 at 5:36 pm

      • I don’t think we will be hearing anything from IDS, trev, now that his rotten corpse is six feet under and his soul is in my ‘care’ 👿 👿

        Beelzebub

        November 23, 2019 at 8:37 pm

      • If only! My long-term goal in life is to outlive IDS.

        trev

        November 23, 2019 at 9:17 pm

      • You have to put the old Tory/Labour canard aside, trev. As as UNEMPLOYED person you have to decide under which party you will be better off, who will give you an easier ride’? Or who will put the boot into you? Who will inflict the least amount of hardship on you? You are not a pensioner, you are not disabled, you are not a waspi woman, you are an UNEMPLOYED person. You will not receive a ‘free’ TV licence, and neither will you receive a tax cut. You have to look the facts, weigh up the evidence. Both parties have form, they have both been in power and opposition. How did they perform? Everyone else who casts their vote will decide on the basis of what’s in it for them. As as UNEMPLOYED person you must do the same. Only YOU can decide.

        Labibah

        November 24, 2019 at 8:45 am

      • Everyone else who casts their vote will decide on the basis of what’s in it for them, what makes them better off, what best serves their interests. As as UNEMPLOYED person you must do the same. Only YOU can decide.

        Labibah

        November 24, 2019 at 8:48 am

      • @ Labibah

        That’s a no-brainer, who will be better for the unemployed, Tories or Labour, Labour of course!

        The idea that the Tories will treat the unemployed better than Labour is preposterous. Look at the evidence you say – over 50,000 Benefits-related deaths. One & half Million people using foodbanks. Nuff said.

        trev

        November 24, 2019 at 11:51 am

      • trev

        November 24, 2019 at 8:35 pm

  21. Does anybody know if Labour plan to do anything about local authorities charging benefit claimants Council Tax? Cornwall Country Council charge everybody at least 25% and for me that means £28.00 a month which is a real killer.

    Ro

    November 23, 2019 at 10:29 am

    • It shows the policy isn’t working and should be abolished.

      Rapid Reclaim

      November 23, 2019 at 10:45 am

      • Is that what Labour are going to do though?

        Ro

        November 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    • I mention in the Post that I could not find any policy which I agree is really important.

      Andrew Coates

      November 23, 2019 at 1:05 pm

      • It is important. I spend more on Council Tax than I spend on energy from benefits never designed to meet such expenses. It really is like getting blood out of a stone.

        Ro

        November 23, 2019 at 2:28 pm

  22. Poverty has become endemic, the glue that binds our society together has come unstuck and, in the words of the United Nations, the UK’s social safety net ‘has been deliberately removed and replaced with a harsh and uncaring ethos’.

    The dependency started in 1980 under Margaret Thatcher lowered the retirement age to sixteen,dependency now childrens’ children is entirely home grown the generation became generations.Work has always been at the foundation of family life to provide and the Conservatives have let(and sold) into an unstable service economy dependent on demand and volatility with consequences that take many years to recover adding to the poverty problem resulting in Universal Credit.Focusing on this shows how bad the true situation is.It should be all hands’ on deck moving forward from the EU departure instead its mired in a political turmoil where no contender is a real choice.

    The Tory Whip

    November 23, 2019 at 10:42 am

  23. “If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain”

    — Anon

    Snow on the Dyke

    November 23, 2019 at 11:40 am

    • Are we to take it that you’re a Conservative then ‘Snow’ ?

      trev

      November 23, 2019 at 12:29 pm

  24. NONE of these politicians ever stick to their manifestos. Manifestos are a waste of paper and only good for lining the budgie’s cage.

    Val

    November 23, 2019 at 11:51 am

    • So who are you going to vote for then Val?

      trev

      November 23, 2019 at 12:31 pm

  25. “A man who was not a socialist before 25 has no heart.
    If he remains a socialist after 25 he has no brain.”

    — Margaret Hilda Thatcher

    Margaret Hilda Thatcher (Deceased)

    November 23, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    • “If you’re not a Socialist, close the door on the way out”

      – A woman in Liverpool commenting on Tom Watson’s departure.

      trev

      November 23, 2019 at 12:33 pm

      • Tom Watson was never a Socialist though. That was why he was asked to leave,

        Momemtum

        November 24, 2019 at 9:49 am

    • As far as I know Maggie was never a socialist, not even in her teens and early twenties. Which, if her words hold true for women too, must mean that she was heartless. But then we all knew that already didn’t we?

      Denis

      November 23, 2019 at 1:04 pm

    • “Any man who rides a bus to work after the age of 26 can count himself a failure in life”

      — Margaret Hilda Thatcher

      Margaret Hilda Thatcher (Deceased)

      November 23, 2019 at 6:27 pm

      • In that case I’m definitely a failure, I passed the age of 26 more than 30 years ago, I don’t go to work and I can’t afford bus fares, so where does that leave me in Thatcher’s vision? It leaves me walking miles in all weather to either sign on or to do unpaid voluntary work at a foodbank.

        trev

        November 23, 2019 at 6:43 pm

      • So that would make pedestrians, tram riders, joggers and cyclists more successful than people who busses, by definition, eh? I feel that I should point out that our current Prime Minister loves buses, so much so that he makes models of them in his spare time. People said that Lady Thatcher went a bit mad during the latter stages of her career and, judging the state of her mental health based on some of the things she said lends credence to this rumour. Poor old soul. She died alone, in a hotel, without any of her family with her; her son Mark and his sister Carol were too busy, apparently, to turn up to say goodbye.

        Ash

        November 24, 2019 at 9:15 am

  26. These shit jobs are on ‘findajob.’. Self-employed with no holiday pay, maternity leave, sick pay or pension.
    You have to pay for your own fuel, wear and tear on your vehicle, repairs, tyres, mileage, depreciation costs etc, You will need business insurance because if you get caught by the police driving whilst uninsured your vehicle will be taken away and crushed and you will be up in court or if you have an accident you won’t be insured. You are also expected to provide your own smartphone complete with a high resolution camera to take photographic evidence such as door number/name plates. You will also need a sat-nav. And all for the princely sum of 80p an hour. Do the maths on that one. And if you take a day off you will be ‘fined’ £150 even if it is for a hospital appointment for cancer treatment.

    “Courier – Delivery Driver – Self Employed – Ipswich

    Summary

    Role Overview

    Delivering a healthy amount of parcels within the Ipswich area using your own vehicle.

    * You will be paid for every parcel you deliver (80p per parcel)
    * Average daily earnings circa £30 – £50 per day, however this can increase, the more you deliver the more you can earn
    * Self-Employed roles suitable for independent contractors wishing to accept offers of work up to 6 days per week, depending on parcel volume this may take as little as 4 hours or more to complete services each day. There are a range of opportunities to fit most suppliers circumstances.

    Please Note: You will have to go into our Ipswich Service Centre for an initial meeting, to discuss the role in further detail.

    What you’ll be doing

    We are always extra busy in the run up to the festive period, delivering parcels presents and promises to postcodes across the UK. So, we need people like you to help us spread a little holiday cheer by delivering 30-120 parcels a day up to six days a week. You’ll be delivering for big brands, earning a competitive rate and playing a hands-on role helping people enjoy the most wonderful time of the year.

    What you need to show us

    You don’t need any specific delivery experience, but a friendly personality, good organisation skills and a dash of holiday spirit certainly won’t go amiss. All you need to apply for the role is a car or a small van (up to 3.5 tonne) and an Android or iOS smartphone that meets our minimum* specification. If your device does not meet this specification we may still be able to offer you an opportunity, however, those of you able to bring your own device will take preference over those without.

    * Operating with Android 6 or iOS 12, with storage of at least 100Mb free, GPS, 5MP+ camera with flash/ torch, 3G/4G SiM, 2GB+ memory.

    Why work for us

    At this time of year our drivers are more important than ever. So, we’ll really look after you and make you feel valued. We’ll give you a dedicated site rep, who’s always on hand to offer advice and support whenever you need it. Plus, our handy app makes planning routes and resolving customer issues easy.

    It’s a busy time too, with plenty of work to go around & subject to your availability and the available parcel volume. And if you’re worried about managing your tax and insurance, we can help you get these things wrapped up in no time. Join our team and deliver some seasonal goodwill with us. It’s a great feeling, knowing that your deliveries make a difference to people in your local area, especially at this time of year.”

    Sorry We Missed You

    November 23, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    • You will spend more on fuel than you will make doing this. You will ruin your car engine plus your car hinges will break off will all the opening and closing.

      Tower Hill

      November 23, 2019 at 1:57 pm

      • Yeah. If you want to work yourself into the ground for a pittance, while the shareholders and management sit in the offices in their suits, and make all the real money.

        John Taylor

        November 23, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    • This ‘job’ is with Yodel.

      Find A Job

      November 23, 2019 at 5:02 pm

    • The last time I received one of these packages the delivery guy said he had spent over 2 hours trying to find my address. And all for 80p! Disgusting!

      Avril

      November 23, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    • You also get ‘fined’ £50 if you miss delivery slots and the before 12pm one, you have to deliver parcels up to three times, you don’t get paid if it’s not delivered, if a customer says they didn’t receive a parcel you have to pay for it, not matter how much. You pay more in fines, petrol, car repairs and deductions than you make. You will end up running around like a blue-arsed fly and still be out of pocket with no money for food or rent. Think about who is delivering your parcel when you order online. And stop buying a load of made in China shit you don’t need. Have heard that jobcentre are strong arming claimants into these shitty so-called jobs. Best not to say you can drive, have car/van… As always better not to tell the jc as little as possible.

      Blue Arsed Fly

      November 24, 2019 at 9:31 am

  27. Total contempt by Boris for the WASPI women. He couldn’t care less. women like myself have had to take a 6 Year increase in our pension age !! Not just a year or two. If this was men involved there would be a huge scandal. But as usual the patriarchy gets its own way, and pushes the rights of women to one side.

    Helen Ludlow

    November 23, 2019 at 2:50 pm

  28. Jo Swinson and the Libdems are about as popular as the Vichy French were after the war !

    Collaborateurs !!

    ‘Une fois un collaborateur, toujours un collaborateur .’ ( Once a collaborator, always a collaborator )

    Marcel Dupont

    November 23, 2019 at 3:04 pm

  29. It is amazing how many rich powerful men have been brought down by their own willy.

    Susan

    November 23, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    • You can say that again 😉

      A Salmond

      November 23, 2019 at 5:08 pm

      • You are entitled to a fair trial before you are hanged.

        Judge Dredd

        November 23, 2019 at 5:10 pm

      • A fair trial until you proved black.

        Tarbrush

        November 24, 2019 at 11:26 am

    • Very true my dear, and in my experience it is a lot of fuss made over very little. If I may put it delicately.

      Cynthia Hartley-Brown

      November 23, 2019 at 6:04 pm

  30. ‘ The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development and the Centre for Cities thinktank believes three million people are missing from the official jobless figures, implying the scale of unemployment issues in Britain is far larger than the official figures show. The UK’s unemployment rate, the report claims, should be 13.2% or about 4.3 million people. It also suggested that austerity has bit-by-bit damaged people’s chances of finding work ‘. – This is a lot nearer the truth. If unemployment was as low as the Tories make out, you could walk into a job.

    Dave M.

    November 23, 2019 at 6:01 pm

  31. Whilst we were out shopping today we couldn’t but help notice more and more of the staff are being replaced by foreign workers. That is why Asda is screwing it workers over. It is going to be harder and harder to earn a living in this great big global economy that Jeremy Corbyn seems to be so in love with, a man who has never done a day’s work in his life. It is no surprise that Tom Watson walked. It is time these wooly-brained idiots were turfed out of Parliament and forced to go and earn a living in the real world. Only them maybe they would appreciate what life it like for ‘ordinary folk’.

    The Wilsons

    November 23, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    • LOL 😂 I won’t even bother trying to reply to that drivel.

      trev

      November 23, 2019 at 9:13 pm

  32. ‘ Gemma Collins has decided it is time to join a more exclusive club – the Illuminati.
    The star has revealed she is hooked on conspiracy theories that a secret society is using top celebrities like puppets as it slowly builds its totalitarian “New World Order”.
    And she says she is prepared to “sell her soul to the devil” to sign up.
    Gemma, 38, said: “I’m now thinking should I become Illuminati? Who do I need to call to become Illuminati?’

    I can think of someone who has already embarked on the Path of Hidden Knowledge……

    Zephirus

    November 23, 2019 at 11:14 pm

    • Having just read your rather cryptic comment, and then googled “Gemma Collins” as I’d never heard of her, I now have to ask WHO do you suppose is on the path of hidden knowledge? Please enlighten me as I am quite mystified.

      trev

      November 23, 2019 at 11:20 pm

    • I doubt that The GCs soul would buy her much in this world, heaven or hell.

      Aliester

      November 24, 2019 at 10:04 am

  33. @trev- I cannot answer directly, for that is forbidden. Yet I can say that there is one here who follows the secret teachings of the ancient Masters.

    Zephirus

    November 23, 2019 at 11:33 pm

    • How strange. I haven’t detected any giveaway signs or signals that would betray the presence of an Initiate among us, and I’ve been studying this sort of thing for many years. I shall have to stay up all night and re-read my copy of the Fulcanelli manuscript to see if I’ve overlooked something, and perhaps cross-reference with the teachings of Max Heindel and Manly P. Hall….

      trev

      November 23, 2019 at 11:43 pm

    • Keep up the ‘Good Work’ as you will be well rewarded.

      Order of the Knights Templar, Keepers of the Most Esoteric Knowledge

      November 24, 2019 at 9:03 am

      • I will endeavour to persevere by means of the compass, plumbline and the square.

        Worshipful Master Coates

        November 24, 2019 at 3:36 pm

  34. https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1193505077291565057/Q4KTouS1?format=jpg&name=small
    Reminds me of when our TV used to break down as a kid lol

    Val

    November 24, 2019 at 9:07 am

    • Yeah, and you’d bang it on the top and the other colours would come back 😀

      Red Raster

      November 24, 2019 at 9:14 am

  35. The number of young people registering to vote in the coming general election is soaring. This is bad news for the Conservatives. Thing is the Tories have to get a majority to ensure that they remain in government whereas Labour doesn’t and could end up forming a government supported by other parties if the Tories don’t get over the line. Anything could happen when things are as fluid as this.

    The future is unwritten.

    Joe Strummer

    November 24, 2019 at 9:20 am

    • There is a hell of a lot of voter fraud going on though. You when you are living in shared accommodation and those electoral registration forms come through and you put down like hundreds of stupid names Mickey Mouse, Elvis Presley, Lord Lucan…. and a bit batch of polling cards comes through at election time with those stupid names on them. And if you didn’t want to show up at the polling station as Mickey Mouse… et al all you had to do was apply for postal votes and wait for postie with a sack load of them, cast your votes, pop them in the post, jobs a good one. We just did it for a laugh mind you, used to tick random boxes or write some shit on the form. but this is serious business these days. The funny thing is I had to visit one of my old rents recently, but now as a landlord, and these names were still on the forms I found tossed aside.

      Mhairi

      November 24, 2019 at 9:44 am

    • It is not looking good for Corbyn oop north.

      “First Scottish election poll predicts electoral wipeout for Labour in Scotland

      The first Scottish opinion poll is proving disappointing to Labour, showing the party stands to lose all but one of its seats in Scotland.

      Of the seven seats held by Labour, only Edinburgh South’s incumbent Ian Muray would return to the House of Commons according to the Panelbase study for the Sunday Times.

      This would not be the first time Mr Murray would be the sole Labour representative in Scotland as he was also the only Labour MP north of the border in 2015.

      According to an analysis from Strathclyde University Professor Sir John Curtice, the SNP are also on course for another electoral win in Scotland.”

      Bristol Brush

      November 24, 2019 at 10:45 am

      • As long as the Scottish Tories do poorly Labour and the SNP might well form the next government if the Conservatives don’t get an outright majority. Which might be interesting and, possibly, the end of the United Kingdom if another referendum as per Scotland leaving the Union is held.

        Jock

        November 24, 2019 at 11:22 am

      • What would happen if the Jocks did vote ‘Aye’ to Leave? They wouldn’t just Leave. It would be like Brexit all over again. The ‘divorce settlement’ would take forever to ‘negotiate’. First thing to so though would be to ereact a hard border between England and Scotchland together with sea patrols around the Berwick coast and the Irish Sea.

        Soft Southerner

        November 24, 2019 at 11:31 am

      • “Labour would have to commit to scrap Trident to gain the SNP’s support in the event of a Labour minority government, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

        The Labour manifesto includes a pledge to renew Trident. ” 😀 What gives?

        Wee Nippy Sturgeon incessantly nipping in his ear would be too much for Jezza, indeed anyone. Totally unbearable. Better just to throw in the towel and to hell with a SNP tail wagging the Labour dog administration.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50536460

        Jockina Strap

        November 24, 2019 at 12:57 pm

      • “Which might be interesting and, possibly, the end of the United Kingdom if another referendum as per Scotland leaving the Union is held.”

        That means it would be Jeremy Corbyn who would take the blame for the break up of the United Kingdom. Wee Nippy Sturgeon would make sure of that.

        Jockina Strap

        November 24, 2019 at 12:59 pm

      • And another thing Wee Nippy Sturgeon keeps raising the spectre of a Lab-SNP pact because she knows that it kills Labour’s chances in England.

        Jockina Strap

        November 24, 2019 at 1:04 pm

  36. What Britain thinks of their controllers.

    Violet

    November 24, 2019 at 9:48 am

    • There is not really many people there though. Hence the BBC-esque low level camera shot 😉

      Fisheye

      November 24, 2019 at 10:09 am

  37. Ave all fraters and sorors of the Hidden College.The sacred mysteries should be kept sub rosa and not revealed, by accident or design, before quotidian and profane eyes. Silentium est aureum, pax vobiscum.

    Vale.

    Most Puissant Sovereign Grand Commander of the Hidden College, Imperator and Hierophant Illuminatus of the Hidden Lodge

    November 24, 2019 at 10:02 am

  38. Corbyn should shut his trap about ‘free’ TV licences. There is no such thing as a free lunch or TV licence, someone always pays for it. It is only encouraging the BBC to do stupid shit like scrapping the ‘red button’ which is a genuinely useful service. What next? Are they going to scrap the electronic programme guide.
    Who cares, as long as the 75s and over, regardless of their wealth get a ‘free’ TV licence. The BBC came to the correct decision on this – for once – keep the ‘free’ licence for those on pension credit yet they get pilloried. Is is any surprise that the BBC are peeved with Corbyn and are pulling out the stops to make sure he loses the election?

    Laura Kuntsberg

    November 24, 2019 at 10:05 am

    • You can always tell what the ‘Establishment’ wants by the way the BBC swings. The BBC campaigned for Remain. They campaigned against Scotch independence. Now they are campaigning for the election of a Boris Johnson-led Tory Government. The Establishment gets what the Establishment wants. Or there will be Hell to pay.

      Soothsayer on the Mountain Top

      November 24, 2019 at 10:21 am

    • Ride me, Laura, ride me to exhaustion as Adam and Katya look on as our audience.

      Chris Mason

      November 25, 2019 at 10:31 am

  39. Water on a meter is quite expensive now and so I’ve started diluting it with water in order to save money.

    Watkins

    November 24, 2019 at 11:24 am

    • @watkins, Brilliant idea Watkins. You can also dilute it with air.

      Reginald Snarpe

      November 24, 2019 at 1:22 pm

      • It will go a lot further if you heat up the air before adding it 😉 Isn’t the Universe wonderful 🙂

        Professor Brian Cox

        November 24, 2019 at 1:41 pm

  40. Labour have just committed an additional £58 BILLION in spending that does not appear anywhere in their “fully cost-ed” manifesto. Even if it is spread over ten years, compensating the “we don’t like being treated the same way as men” waspi women will cost £5.8 billion annually.

    This expenditure is not shown anywhere in the manifesto.
    It more than doubles the spending pledged for pensions and welfare.
    It is more than they have pledged for the NHS – which is only £5.5 billion a year extra.

    It will be popular amongst the recipients of Labour largesse. I am not sure it will be popular generally.

    It is naked vote buying of the worst sort. It most certainly shatters even the feeble pretense by Labour that they have worked out what they will spend and where the cash will come from.

    This little item is more than the entire defense budget. It is like Jeremy’s off the cuff “we’ll abolish student debt” in 2017.

    D Head

    November 24, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    • Presumably they will pay for some of it through taxation and some through borrowing, which is fine by me. If it also means that I can get my Pension at age 66 instead of 67 I’m all for it and don’t care where it comes from. There are other ways they can save money, such as by shutting down all the Jobcentres for example, which would save a fortune. And the country could be better off under Labour via a more favourable Brexit deal negotiated for our benefit by Mr. Corbyn, rather than the economically disastrous deal Boris wants to impose upon us. Either way it’s better than being an oppressed peasant under a brutal Tory regime.

      trev

      November 24, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    • Jezza could have used this £58 BILLION to compensate the victims of the ‘benefits freeze’, or bring the dole up to a decent level. But Jezza takes the votes of the unemployed for granted… or so he thinks 😉 So instead he intends to piss £58 BILLION up against the wall on ‘waspi women’. Well-off middle-class women, many with second, third pensions and well-off partners. waspi women who were told to go to Hell by the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights. waspi women who had 20 years to prepare for the rise in the pension age. greedy, selfish waspi women who don’t give a damn about men who were expected to work until 65 whilst women collected a pension at the age of 60. Until the European Court of Human Rights corrected this abhorrent discriminatory practice. But Jezza knows that these waspi women are not natural Labour voters so he has to bribe them. What Jezza doesn’t seem to understand is that these waspi women will, once they have milked Labour dry, return to voting Tory. And then what happens: the next Tory government brings in another ‘benefits freeze’ to pay for Labour’s largesse.

      R Reeves

      November 25, 2019 at 10:10 am

      • On the other hand, Labour will cap Pension age at 66, which is not great but better than 67 or 68, and better than what the Tories will do if re-elected, i.e. increase Pension age to 70.

        The Benefits freeze was unjust and probably illegal but let’s not forget who is responsible, i.e. the Tories.

        Labour plan to do a trial of Basic Income, which if successful would either supplement or replace JSA.

        Labour will scrap Universal Credit and end sanctions, the Tories will do nothing to help the plight of Benefit claimants.

        Labour get my vote.

        trev

        November 25, 2019 at 10:28 am

      • trev, it is posted further up but in case you missed it, Labour’s manifesto states:

        “We will immediately suspend the Tories’ vicious sanction regime and ensure that employment support is positive not punitive”

        Suspend and end are not the same thing. Sanctions must be ended – without exception. They cannot exist in any way, shape or form. Because if there is a way to stop a claimants benefit the devious DWP will find a way. The DWP cannot be given an inch as far as sanctions are concerned they will take an inch.

        And why haven’t Labour got concrete proposas for a universal credit replacement and some sort of universal basic income from ‘day one’? How many years have they been in opposition? If they had actual proper plans the electorate might begin to take them seriously.

        Meg

        November 25, 2019 at 10:56 am

      • But regardless of any perceived short-comings there is no option but to vote Labour because they at least represent the hope of positive change, whereas the Tories represent an absolute guarantee of no positive change and very likely a great worsening of conditions for anyone who isn’t rich. The only way to get rid of the Tories is by voting Labour, even if you think they are not perfect. Getting rid of the Tories has to be the number one priority of this election.

        trev

        November 25, 2019 at 11:15 am

  41. I do feel sorry for innocent owners of motor-boats, after these recent revelations.

    Volga Boatman

    November 24, 2019 at 3:59 pm

  42. Tories still more than 10 points ahead of Labour in every poll. Not good. Not good at all.

    Jesus McJehova

    November 25, 2019 at 8:58 am

    • Incredible. If those polls are to be trusted then it is a very sad reflection on the mentality of the gullible, reactionary, uneducated, politically unaware Great British public, who deserve all they get. If the Tories do somehow manage to get back in, despite their bare-faced lies, their greed, their hatred of the poor, sick and disabled, then life as we know it is over. The suffering and misery will not only continue but will get even worse, with a privatized NHS, a dysfunctional social security system, no workers rights, there will be millions of people unable to afford either healthcare or food. We’ll be tripping over bodies in the streets. We will witness the total breakdown of society.

      trev

      November 25, 2019 at 10:19 am

      • If the Tories do get back in after all the truly terrible things they have done, led by a charlatan and liar who currently lives in 10 Downing Street with his latest girlfriend while the wife he is still married to and the four children he fathered with her live somewhere else, what does that say about Jezza? If complete and utterly discredited sh1t3 like that can beat the Labour party what does that say about Labour?

        Jesus McJehova

        November 25, 2019 at 10:27 am

      • It says more about the general public than it does about Labour. Labour are offering a brilliant manifesto of fantastic policies that would transform this country, everything I have ever hoped for. If the dumbass electorate are too bloody thick to see that then they deserve all they will get.

        trev

        November 25, 2019 at 10:36 am

    • BoJo is the sort of guy who a jury who let off even though they know he is as guilty as hell because he is likeable. If Corbyn, Swinson or Sturgeon were in the dock they would be going straight to jail. BoJo peppers his speeches with jokes and ends on a laugh out loud and the electorate like that. With Bojo it comes across natural. If Corbyn tried it it would look forced and fake. When have you ever seen sour-faced Corbyn even crack a smile? The icing on the cake for Bojo would be if he threw in a few comedy accents. Get them cracking their ribs and rolling in the isles. Jezza even said that politics is a “serious business”, but the punters like some stand-up, sit-down comedy thrown in and BoJo delivers that in spades. That’s the (harsh) reality of it. An if we are all honest we would admit that we all turn off/mute/change channel when sense-of-humourless Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon come on but we (grudgingly) what BoJo because we know that we will at least get a chuckle. That is how Bojo gets his ‘message’ across.

      12 Angry Women

      November 25, 2019 at 10:41 am

      • We all like a loveable rogue 🙂

        Stella

        November 25, 2019 at 10:45 am

      • Johnson has spent many years carefully cultivating his public image as an affable clown, with a messy haircut, appearing on HIGNFY and dangling from a high wire whilst waiving a Union Jack like he’s on It’s A Knockout. The gullible public lap it up.

        trev

        November 25, 2019 at 10:49 am

  43. trev

    December 4, 2019 at 10:36 pm


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