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Labour to Pledge to End Universal Credit?

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Has this been listened to?

The story goes:

Labour will scrap the Government’s universal credit scheme, with plans set to be unveiled next week, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

The Opposition had previously denied that it was scrapping universal credit in July. However, The Telegraph understands that the intricacies of the policy have been discussed by shadow cabinet ministers in recent days, with plans having been discussed in multiple departments.

A senior source said Labour’s plan to scrap the policy was “medium-term” with a series of “short-term fixes” mooted in the meantime.

These short-term fixes are understood to include an end to sanctions, the five-week wait and the three child limit.

A source involved said the fixes were designed to “point in the direction of a bigger change”.

As you can imagine the Tories under Spaffing-Turd  Johnson do not like the idea,

Damian Green, the former welfare secretary, said: “If Labour will put [universal credit] at risk, they will be damaging the opportunities of people to get into work and move up the ladder, and that would be unbelievably stupid.”

Followed by the Hard Right:

Matthew Lesh, head of research at the Adam Smith Institute said: “There is always room for reform, but dismantling universal credit will cost billions, mean higher taxes, and undermine our record low unemployment.”

Looks like the Adam Smith Institute have been sampling the wares at this ‘happening’.

https://twitter.com/ASI/status/1173510794308390912?s=20

Groovy!

The Telegraph story follows this one at the end of August in Teesside Live. 

Labour has pledged to end Universal Credit after a damning report revealed a generation of children were being born into poverty.

New research published this week highlighted a “terrible reality” in which thousands of children are living in converted shipping containers, office blocks and B&Bs.

The Labour Party has pledged an end to Universal Credit.

And with MPs on all sides of the House of Commons heading for a collision course over the handling of Brexit and the Prorogation of Parliament, a General Election is likely in the near future.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has warned that the Government is “failing a whole generation of children”.

During a visit to a children’s lunch club in Wales, he said his party would take “radical action” to help children from all backgrounds and had a “moral responsibility” to “end the scandal of child poverty and homelessness”.

He also pledged to scrap Universal Credit and – as reported by our sister title Plymouth Live – Mr Corbyn said he wanted to reform the Conservative Government’s flagship benefits reform, which has been hamstrung by complaints and confusion.

He said during a visit in May that, if elected, he would immediately stop the roll-out of Universal Credit and end the hated five-week wait for a payment – which is blamed for putting claimants into debt: “We’d halt the roll-out straight away and end the waiting period for people going onto it.

John MacDonnell last year,

Universal credit has to go, says John McDonnell.

The government’s flagship welfare policy faces being scrapped by Labour because it is “just not sustainable”, the shadow chancellor has said.

John McDonnell said universal credit, which merges six working-age benefits into one payment, “will have to go”.

Labour announced at its party conference last month that it would review the system, which is being rolled out across the UK.

We shall see….

Written by Andrew Coates

September 16, 2019 at 9:09 am

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  1. Andrew Coates

    September 16, 2019 at 9:42 am

  2. All these ‘manifesto commitments’, ‘pledges’ carved in stone don’t count for a row of beans. We have been there before.

    Kooky Koo

    September 16, 2019 at 9:43 am

    • @Kooky Koo – And in Ed Miliband’s case he did have them carved in stone. On the famous Edstone.

      Frank Taylor

      September 16, 2019 at 11:06 am

      • Has Corbyn been checked out on a Bacon Sandwich ? Best to be on the safe side.

        Barry

        September 16, 2019 at 11:15 am

      • Corbyn is a vegetable isn’t he… sorry… vegetarian isn’t he?

        Wally

        September 16, 2019 at 3:54 pm

  3. I can’t read the Telegraph article as you have to pay, but I hope it’s true.

    trev

    September 16, 2019 at 10:02 am

  4. UC is a joke, I am £30 per weeks worst off, than I was on JC.

    myfinalusername

    September 16, 2019 at 10:03 am

  5. Labour has changed its position several times from pause it, to scrap it, to reform it and now back to scrap it again. I wonder how long the “scrap it” position will last this time. To be honest it’s all academic anyway because no political leader as unpopular as Jeremy Corbyn is with the general electorate has ever gone on to win an election; in fact all polls and analyses these days predict that Labour will have even FEWER MPs after the next general election than they have now. Unless a miracle occurs Labour will be even more insignificant in the House of Commons after the next general election than it is now and so won’t be in any position to do anything about UC other than protest about it impotently. On the bright side, if Jezza is still Labour leader, the atrocity called Universal Credit will give him something to shout and rail about which is, let’s face it, what he’s good at ideas and policy obviously not being his bag.

    If only Labour had a decent leader he/she would be on the way to Downing Street now.

    Zee

    September 16, 2019 at 10:36 am

    • Jeremy Corbyn is like a millstone hanging round the neck of the Labour Party. As long as he tries to stay on as Leader, Labour is doomed. For the sake of the party, he must resign. But true to form, this is exactly what he won’t do.

      Alan Turner

      September 16, 2019 at 11:04 am

    • A Labour party which is unable to pull ahead in the polls of the sh1t show that is a split Conservative party at war with itself led by a buffoon and liar like Boris Johnson isn’t a Labour party that can win an election. If I were Jezza I would be deeply ashamed to see my party circling the drain under these circumstances. Any Labour leader worth his salt should be better liked, more capable and able than Boris Johnson(!), a prime minister that has lied all his life, possibly recently to the Queen, who is shacked up in 10 Downing Street with his girlfriend while still married to a woman, with whom he fathered four children, living somewhere else. A riven Tory party with a dishonest leader should represent an open goal to Labour. The fact that Labour is losing ground to Boris Johnson’s shambles of an administration is very worrying and seems mostly down to Jeremy Corbyn. It seems that in common with Theresa May the more that people see of Jeremy Corbyn the less they like him, a potentially fatal position to be in since during a general election campaign Corbyn will be dragged into the spotlight, quizzed, questioned and scrutinised ruthlessly, by people who will be out to get or to embarrass him, in a manner that can’t be dismissed by a scowl, glare, grimace or repeating the same answer over and over.

      Only the convinced Labour faithful no believe that Corbyn is a winner overlooking his many faults.

      Everybody else thinks the man is simply not fit to hold the highest political office of state in the UK.

      Dime Bar

      September 16, 2019 at 4:18 pm

  6. Labour have had years to do something about Universal Credit. Now with an election possible, they start making big promises. There are two things wrong here. 1. Labour have got no real chance of being elected while Jeremy Corbyn selfishly clings on as leader. 2. They can’t be trusted on welfare after years of indifference.

    Jeff Smith

    September 16, 2019 at 10:58 am

    • @Jeff Smith – Right on Jeff ! No point in all these promises. Have you seen the polls ? With Corbyn in charge Labour have no chance. It’s just stupid to carry on like this.

      Jack Reid

      September 16, 2019 at 11:09 am

      • Council to set up fund to help those in rent arrears & waiting on Universal Credit payments

        Average rent arrears for tenants on Universal Credit have risen sharply, from £499 in 2014/15 to £705 for 2018/19.

        North Lanarkshire Council is establishing a fund to help tenants who find themselves falling into arrears waiting for Universal Credit payments.

        The council’s Communities and Housing Committee agreed a fund be made available for current tenants struggling to cope with the impact of making a Universal Credit claim.

        https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/council-set-up-fund-help-20081433

        ken

        September 17, 2019 at 5:09 pm

  7. Corbyn could stand down now, in favour of his Deputy, Tom Watson.
    Time for some common sense in the Party. #Progress

    Andrew K.

    September 16, 2019 at 11:13 am

    • Yvette Cooper would be a good choice to replace Jezza – personable, good brain, well educated – and wouldn’t be as divisive as Watson.

      Lal

      September 16, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    • Another day, another online alias, eh Andrew?

      KJ

      September 17, 2019 at 1:25 am

      • You are only allowed the one account on here and it has to be validated by the DWP. If you want an account to post on here ask your work coach.

        Amber

        September 17, 2019 at 2:14 am

  8. Until Universal Credit is scrapped all politicians are breaking the Human Rights Act by supporting Universal Credit. UC is not a political issue but a Human Rights Issue. There is no need for politicians who are breaking the Human Rights Act multiple times. Disability is not a political issue, disability is a Human Rights issue. Universal Credit has been disabled. Universal Credit killing machine.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 16, 2019 at 11:36 am

  9. Universal Credit is the Sub Contractor.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 16, 2019 at 11:42 am

    • Liverpool is facing ‘worst crisis since World War Two’ with huge budget gap and nowhere left to turn

      Emergency meeting called as authority says savage cuts mean it cannot meet demand for vital services

      The austerity-ravaged local authority has a £57.6 million gap in its finances for the next financial year – which is in addition to the estimated £436 million it has had chopped away since 2010.

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-facing-worst-crisis-world-16932434

      ken

      September 18, 2019 at 8:44 pm

  10. We always have this superhero to battle:

    Andrew Coates

    September 16, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    • Puny PM…

      THE HULK

      September 16, 2019 at 4:25 pm

    • These were disgraceful scenes and typical of a coward and a bully it made the country look terrible as if theres nothing there,what has he got to hide,theres no shame.We’ve witnessed no end of breathtaking contempt for democracy debate and any argument.Its about time the EU delt with him then us and his intolerent unelectable party at an election for good.

      Theres underlying cracks developing in the UK over the backstop,no doubt many will exploit this for calls of an united Ireland.The Scottish judicial system has found his suspension of parliament unlawful another embarrassment even if that was to be later overtuned,this has the potential to raise questions over their future,the country could break up like the former Yugoslavia and the aftermath of all of this remains to seen on the general public.Its only my opinion but that referendum was more to do with the need for change the UK’s failings,Germany kept the quality we lost it.

      After the Saudi oil attacks raising oil prices the likleyhood of fuel prices in the UK will rise as everything is delivered it will effect prices in the shops,it couldn’t have happened at a worse time.

      ken

      September 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm

      • The component of fuel for the delivery truck in your shopping basket is insignificant, ken. If fuel doubled in price would a can of baked beans double in price? Of course not! It is a load of old bollocks to get you on side and out fighting. If you don’t buy fuel out of a fuel pump, fuel prices mean nothing to you, ken. The people who are hit by fuel hikes are motorists, you know those people who buy fuel to put in their cars. A fuel hike might a few of those gas-guzzling Range Rovers, pick-up tricks, Beemers, Audi and all that shite that pollutes the air that we breath. People who drive these gas-guzzling cars are fucking knobheads. Let us save the planet and tax these bastards off the road. Yah. for fuel price hikes 😀

        Greta Thunberg

        September 17, 2019 at 2:05 am

      • A fuel hike might a few of those gas-guzzling Range Rovers, pick-up tricks, Beemers, Audi and all that shite that pollutes the air that we breath off the road.

        Greta Thunberg

        September 17, 2019 at 2:06 am

    • I am beginning to think that Boris Johnson’s grip on reality is much looser than any of us had imagined.

      Okamoto Pack of Two

      September 16, 2019 at 7:29 pm

      • It’s another Eton Mess.

        John G.

        September 17, 2019 at 10:40 am

      • Oh là là!

        Oh là Làrry

        September 17, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    • You wouldn’t call craven behaviour like this “Churchillian” would you?

      WD

      September 16, 2019 at 7:32 pm

      • Why is it that the Europeans look like grown-ups, and Boris like a comedy Prime Minister ?

        Tom Sutton

        September 17, 2019 at 10:39 am

      • No. I’d say it was more like Vichy France.

        Harry F.

        September 17, 2019 at 11:34 am

      • “Vichy France”

        Shurely shome mishtake.

        Boris Johnson is an American by birth rather than French and as far as I know isn’t collaborating with German Nazis. I mean he won’t even hold talks, in camera, with tinpot populist and nationalist Nigel “Il Nuovo Duce” Farage about an under-the-counter deal, designed to foil democracy by restricting candidates standing for election as MPs in constituencies, to help one another to win elections! Il Nuovo Duce is always going on about choice and democracy and yet wants to stitch up the next election by means of a pact, privately arranged with Boris Johnson, as per who the electorate will have to vote for during the ballot when the next general election comes around.

        You gorra larf ain’tcha?

        Lal

        September 17, 2019 at 3:21 pm

      • With a waistline like that coupled with all that stress BoJo must be well on the way to his first coronary.

        Green Man

        September 17, 2019 at 7:26 pm

  11. Gosport woman on Universal Credit ‘hasn’t seen a single penny’ since March.

    the DWP says, is because Mrs Moffat is not actually owed any money for Universal Credit, following deductions.

    https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/gosport-woman-on-universal-credit-hasn-t-seen-a-single-penny-since-march-1-9071210

    ken

    September 16, 2019 at 9:46 pm

  12. Imagine you are sitting in a passenger jet at the airport, waiting for take-off. Going to Spain, for two weeks of fun and sun. Suddenly you hear that Jeremy Corbyn is flying the airplane. Naturally you are alarmed. Because you know, and all the other passengers know, that Jeremy Corbyn is too old to be an airline pilot, and can’t fly a passenger jet. Even if he thinks he can. The engines power up, and the plane moves slowly forward….No Wait !! Let’s stop the flight there on the tarmac, before there is a serious accident. Phew ! That was a narrow escape ! Yet on the same basis, in real life, Jeremy Corbyn thinks he can lead the Labour Party. Ready for take-off ?

    Wright Brothers

    September 17, 2019 at 10:30 am

    • Ha ! Ha ! Good one. I’m not taking any flights with Captain Corbyn.

      Colin

      September 18, 2019 at 2:28 pm

      • I’m not voting for him either !

        Disgusted Labour

        September 18, 2019 at 2:47 pm

  13. Be warned Boris Johnson, and remember the mighty Odysseus, whose over-reaching pride and arrogance caused the very Gods themselves to turn on him. Remember how he was humbled in his pride, and brought low. Go now to the temple and make sacrifice.

    Delphic Oracle

    September 17, 2019 at 10:51 am

    • Exactly!

      Is there is a meme on this?

      Andrew Coates

      September 17, 2019 at 1:20 pm

    • BoJo ain’t got nothing in common with Greek heroes, tosh. BoJo ain’t no tragic hero, man, the fat f*uck is simply tragic.

      Andromache

      September 18, 2019 at 8:55 am

  14. “If you let my daughter go now that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you, but if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you and I will kill you.”

    — Liam Neeson

    Thought for the Day

    September 17, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    • £100m government spending hike on temporary homeless accommodation

      Last week, it was revealed that the number of households living in temporary accommodation in England has risen dramatically in the last 10 years. There are currently 84,740 households living in temporary accommodation, such as B&Bs and hostels, including 126,020 children.

      This comes amid a general rise in homelessness across the country, with figures showing an increase in homelessness by 11% in the last quarter alone.

      https://scramnews.com/increase-government-spending-homeless-temporary-accommodation/

      ken

      September 18, 2019 at 8:39 pm

  15. Andrew Coates

    September 17, 2019 at 3:14 pm

  16. Boris Johnson: More of a dicktator than a dictator.

    Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Smith

    September 17, 2019 at 3:32 pm

  17. Labour considering plans to scrap Universal Credit in major shift at conference.

    It would be better to get people into proper paid employment not relying on some form of state subsidy under a draconian sanction regime and off benefits.

    Society has definetly suffered under the Tories with violent crime a real problem.

    Tube workers to take industrial action over violence levels

    https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/tube-workers-to-take-industrial-action-over-violence-levels/

    Unsafe Britian.

    ken

    September 17, 2019 at 4:59 pm

  18. Damning suicide of autistic man blaming DWP after benefits slashed before death

    Ayman Habayeb’s badly decomposed remains lay in a cupboard in his flat in Milton Keynes for nine months before they were finally found

    He was found dead after housing officials’ knocks went unanswered.

    Police broke down the door and found his badly decomposed body.

    It is believed he had hanged himself, his father said.

    There was a pile of unopened post relating to his debts and eviction and notes from the social services saying they had called but he was out, the parents said.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/autistic-man-28-found-dead-20080050

    ken

    September 17, 2019 at 5:17 pm

  19. Just seen this on whatdotheyknow.com

    Record for Evidential Reasons
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/record_for_evidential_reasons#incoming-1432912

    jj joop

    September 17, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    • dont you think it is funny that there first line of defence is to use the gdpa pmsl 😉

      its why i use it as my main weapon and they cant do jack about it, want my phone number err go spin on it 😉

      superted

      September 17, 2019 at 9:35 pm

      • What is even more ironic is that they bleat about claimant’s right to privacy, yet all their offices are open plan. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve overheard people’s personal data while they’re being grilled by coachy or coachy on the phone. By personal data, I mean: name, address, phone number, medical history and so.

        jj joop

        September 18, 2019 at 11:21 am

  20. THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS ARE RISING LIKE A PHOENIX FROM THE ASHES! GO ON JO! JO4PM!

    Swinsoner

    September 17, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    • No – they are more like an overcooked chicken slowly burning in the oven

      Austin

      September 18, 2019 at 2:37 pm

      • IN THE LATEST YOUGOV POLL THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS ARE TWO POINTS AHEAD OF LABOUR. IF THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS ARE LIKE AN “OVERCOOKED CHICKEN SLOWLY BURNING IN THE OVEN” WHAT DOES THAT MAKE LABOUR? CHARCOAL? JO4PM! YOU GO JO!

        Swinsoner

        September 19, 2019 at 11:28 am

  21. Lib Dem activists slammed for singing ‘Tony Blair can f*** off and die’in shock video.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/lib-dem-activists-slammed-singing-20083866

    Violet

    September 18, 2019 at 7:42 am

  22. DWP chief Therese Coffin blasted for using electric shock collar to train dog (benefit claimants next?)

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-chief-therese-coffey-blasted-20083806

    Violet

    September 18, 2019 at 11:09 am

    • @Violet – It does show a certain attitude to the pain and suffering of others. I hope we are not going to see these items introduced in the Jobcentre. Or electric batons for the guards.

      George H.

      September 18, 2019 at 2:40 pm

      • I know one thing, I’m not wearing any electric dog collars ..

        Dave Blunt

        September 18, 2019 at 2:44 pm

      • Very true George H they couldn’t give a toss about the suffering of others & psychopaths love to inflict pain don’t they.

        Violet

        September 18, 2019 at 5:00 pm

      • I often wear a shock collar when visiting my favourite dominatrix at the torture garden.

        J. W. Rees-Mogg

        September 18, 2019 at 5:57 pm

  23. Ravachol 1892

    Ravachol’s Forbidden Speech

    On trial for murder after a series of bombings, Ravachol attempted to give the following speech, not to deny his guilt, but to accept and explain it. According to contemporary accounts, he was cut off after a few words, and the speech was never delivered. He was guillotined shortly afterwards.

    If I speak, it’s not to defend myself for the acts of which I’m accused, for it is society alone which is responsible, since by its organization it sets man in a continual struggle of one against the other. In fact, don’t we today see, in all classes and all positions, people who desire, I won’t say the death, because that doesn’t sound good, but the ill-fortune of their like, if they can gain advantages from this. For example, doesn’t a boss hope to see a competitor die? And don’t all businessmen reciprocally hope to be the only ones to enjoy the advantages that their occupations bring? In order to obtain employment, doesn’t the unemployed worker hope that for some reason or another someone who does have a job will be thrown out of his workplace. Well then, in a society where such events occur, there’s no reason to be surprised about the kind of acts for which I’m blamed, which are nothing but the logical consequence of the struggle for existence that men carry on who are obliged to use every means available in order to live. And since it’s every man for himself, isn’t he who is in need reduced to thinking: “Well, since that’s the way things are, when I’m hungry I have no reason to hesitate about using the means at my disposal, even at the risk of causing victims! Bosses, when they fire workers, do they worry whether or not they’re going to die of hunger? Do those who have a surplus worry if there are those who lack the basic necessities”?

    There are some who give assistance, but they are powerless to relieve all those in need and who will either die prematurely because of privations of various kinds, or voluntarily by suicides of all kinds, in order to put an end to a miserable existence and to not have to put up with the rigors of hunger, with countless shames and humiliations, and who are without hope of ever seeing them end. Thus there are the Hayem and Souhain families, who killed their children so as not to see them suffer any longer, and all the women who, in fear of not being able to feed a child, don’t hesitate to destroy in their wombs the fruit of their love.

    And all these things happen in the midst of an abundance of all sorts of products. We could understand if these things happened in a country where products are rare, where there is famine. But in France, where abundance reigns, where butcher shops are loaded with meat, bakeries with bread, where clothing and shoes are piled up in stores, where there are unoccupied lodgings! How can anyone accept that everything is for the best in a society when the contrary can be seen so clearly? There are many people who will feel sorry for the victims, but who’ll tell you they can’t do anything about it. Let everyone scrape by as he can! What can he who lacks the necessities when he’s working do when he loses his job? He has only to let himself die of hunger. Then they’ll throw a few pious words on his corpse. This is what I wanted to leave to others. I preferred to make of myself a trafficker in contraband, a counterfeiter, a murderer and assassin. I could have begged, but it’s degrading and cowardly and even punished by your laws, which make poverty a crime. If all those in need, instead of waiting took, wherever and by whatever means, the self-satisfied would understand perhaps a bit more quickly that it’s dangerous to want to consecrate the existing social state, where worry is permanent and life threatened at every moment.

    We will quickly understand that the anarchists are right when they say that in order to have moral and physical peace, the causes that give birth to crime and criminals must be destroyed. We won’t achieve these goals in suppressing he who, rather than die a slow death caused by the privations he had and will have to put up with, without any hope of ever seeing them end, prefers, if he has the least bit of energy, to violently take that which can assure his well-being, even at the risk of death, which would only put an end to his sufferings.

    So that is why I committed the acts of which I am accused, and which are nothing but the logical consequence of the barbaric state of a society which does nothing but increase the rigor of the laws that go after the effects, without ever touching the causes. It is said that you must be cruel to kill your like, but those who say this don’t see that you resolve to do this only to avoid the same fate.

    In the same way you, messieurs members of the jury, will doubtless sentence me to death, because you think it is necessary, and that my death will be a source of satisfaction for you who hate to see human blood flow; but when you think it is useful to have it flow in order to ensure the security of your existence, you hesitate no more than I do, but with this difference: you do it without running any risk, while I, on the other hand, acted at the risk of my very life.

    Well, messieurs, there are no more criminals to judge, but the causes of crime to destroy! In creating the articles of the Criminal Code, the legislators forgot that they didn’t attack the causes, but only the effects, and so they don’t in any way destroy crime. In truth, the causes continuing to exist, the effects will necessarily flow from them. There will always be criminals, for today you destroy one, but tomorrow ten will be born.

    What, then, is needed? Destroy poverty, this seed of crime, in assuring to all the satisfaction of their needs! How difficult this is to realize! All that is needed is to establish society on a new basis, where all will be held in common and where each, producing according to his abilities and his strength, could consume according to his needs. Then and only then will we no longer see people like the hermit of Notre-Dame-de-Grace and others, begging for a metal whose victims and slaves they become! We will no longer see women give up their charms, like a common piece of merchandise, in exchange for this same metal that often prevents us from recognizing whether or not affection is sincere. We will no longer see men like Pranzini, Prado, Berland, Anastay and others who kill in order to have this same metal. This shows that the cause of all crimes is always the same, and you have to be foolish not to see this.

    Yes, I repeat it: it is society that makes criminals and you, jury members, instead of striking you should use your intelligence and your strength to transform society. In one fell swoop you’ll suppress all crime. And your work, in attacking causes, will be greater and more fruitful than your justice, which belittles itself in punishing its effects.

    I am nothing but an uneducated worker; but because I have lived the life of the poor, I feel more than a rich bourgeois the iniquity of your repressive laws. What gives you the right to kill or lock up a man who, put on earth with the need to live, found himself obliged to take that which he lacks in order to feed himself?

    I worked to live and to provide for my family; as long as neither I nor my family suffered too much, I remained what you call honest. Then work became scarce, and with unemployment came hunger. It is only then that the great law of nature, that imperious voice that accepts no reply, the instinct of preservation, forced me to commit some of the crimes and misdemeanors of which I am accused and which I admit I am the author of.

    Judge me, messieurs of the jury, but if you have understood me, while judging me judge all the unfortunate who poverty, combined with natural pride, made criminals, and who wealth or ease would have made honest men.

    An intelligent society would have made of them men like any other!

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/ravachol/1892/forbidden-speech.htm

    Ravachol

    September 18, 2019 at 12:14 pm

  24. Andrew Coates

    September 18, 2019 at 12:32 pm

  25. Andrew Coates

    September 18, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    • @Andrew Coates – Some working class probably won’t like it if Universal Credit is scrapped. The right-wing readers of the Sun. And all the others of similar mind who have cheered on this ‘war against skivers’, as they see it, from the very start.

      Jeff Smith

      September 18, 2019 at 2:35 pm

      • I would have agreed with that until recently but since Corbyn’s rabble have taken over the Labour Party I’ve been forced to face up to the truth despite my upbringing by a very left wing father.
        The left are not more compassionate (see the guardian editorial about Cameron) they use the poor to gain power. And communist societies benefit a few not the many! Orwell knew that.

        Davina B

        September 18, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    • I’ve never met anybody on Universal Credit who likes it: people on it hate it and people not on it have no idea what it’s all about. It’s very hard to get, very hard to keep, and seems set up to make people fail. The idea that Labour voters are clamouring for Universal Credit to stay seems utterly ridiculous to me. But wouldn’t it be better instead of just saying “we’ll scrap it” for Labour to tell everybody what they would put in its place which would be better? After all Labour could replace UC with something even worse for all we know. How would Labour reform social security to reduce food bank usage, homelessness, and poverty? What are their plans to make things better?

      WTF

      September 19, 2019 at 5:04 am

  26. It doesn’t look like anything has changed since 1892. Plus ça change

    And in the UK we have foodbanks and homelessness in the midst of an abundance of all sorts of products. We could understand if these things happened in a country where products are rare, where there is famine. But in the UK, where abundance reigns, where butcher shops are loaded with meat, bakeries with bread, where clothing and shoes are piled up in stores, where there are unoccupied lodgings!

    Aline

    September 18, 2019 at 12:54 pm

  27. We must move the Labour Party back to the centre ground. #Progress

    John K.

    September 18, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    • You’re right. The well respected Electoral Calculus predicts that Labour will lose 48 seats and the Tories end up back in power with a majority of 14 after the next general election.

      https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

      I’m afraid I think that Jeremy Corbyn is witless enough and vain enough to try to stay on as Labour leader after this terrible result blathering on about “one more push” or whatever gassing about a victory that will never be. What scares me is what a majority government, which can do anything, formed from the most right-wing flavour of the Conservative party in living memory would do once in power. If you think that things are bad now just imagine how much worse they will be with the country struggling and much poorer alone outside the EU with an extreme right-wing Tory government, led by a complete charlatan and liar, has complete control over the economy and policy.

      Lal

      September 18, 2019 at 3:20 pm

      • VOTE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT! SWINSON FOR NUMBER 10! YOU GO JO!

        Swinsoner

        September 18, 2019 at 6:03 pm

      • The Labour Party is being urged to enshrine the rights to housing, education, food and work in law, among other protections, if elected to government.

        t recommends the party set up a wide-ranging commission, made up of various shadow cabinet teams and external experts, to decide on how best to do this.

        https://rightsinfo.org/labour-social-rights-bill-manifesto/

        ken

        September 18, 2019 at 8:36 pm

      • Having had nearly a decade in opposition shouldn’t Labour already have a bloody good idea how to fix the UK without having to set up yet another commission to “look into things”? If they were to get in they might only have one five year term in office and if they waste several years waiting for some commission to report may not have the time to do anything to improve the lot of the poor and suffering.

        WTF

        September 19, 2019 at 5:08 am

  28. Today on whatdotheyknow.com

    Guidance/training for appeal managers
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/guidance_and_appendixes#incoming-1433817

    jj joop

    September 18, 2019 at 7:17 pm

  29. Boris Johnson for Buckingham Palace. Trooping The Colour for contracting out to Serco & G4S. The Isle Of Wight to sell to Donald ‘Duck’ Trump. Let’s make a failed dictatorship into a dictatorship that works. Then we want democracy back. Politics has been disabled. Well you did say disability was a political issue not a criminal issue.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 18, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    • Point Of Order Government Marketing Lawyer on £20,000 an hour of Tax payers money.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 18, 2019 at 7:44 pm

      • Lord Keen to go even slower. Lord Ordinary has found Lord Panic has got stuck in the Parliament Port O Loos since Parliament is in a building site.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 18, 2019 at 7:46 pm

  30. Universal Credit tightens its grip as UK figures soar – with a huge number in Birmingham

    As rollout of new six-in-one welfare scheme continues, latest figures show number of people receiving it – and it’s expected to keep rising as the managed migration from old benefits forces millions more on to it

    Universal Credit is tightening its grip across the UK as more and more people go on to the welfare scheme.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/universal-credit-latest-figures-2019-16933981

    ken

    September 18, 2019 at 8:34 pm

  31. 200,000 MORE BI-POLAR PEOPLE NOW IN WORK WITH THE DWP HELP ANYONE CAN FIND A JOB – OUR LATEST SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS ARE ABOUT HOW WE ALSO GOT 100,000 SUICIDE RISK PEOPLE JOBS LAST YEAR WITH OUT SECTOR CHAMPIONS

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 18, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    • THE DWP MOTO WORK CURES BI-POLAR, SUCIDE RISK & ALL MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES INCLUDING DISABILITY, WITH THE HELP OF THE DWP DISABILITY SECTOR CHAMPIONS.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 18, 2019 at 8:59 pm

  32. THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS RELEGATE LABOUR TO THIRD PLACE AFTER LEAPING OVER THEIR HEADS INTO SECOND PLACE!

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/106641/lib-dems-leapfrog-labour-second-place-after

    Swinsoner

    September 19, 2019 at 7:53 am

  33. I’m afraid it is a case of ‘too little, too late’ – Labour have no chance of winning the next general election.

    John Costello

    September 19, 2019 at 8:18 am

    • Labour have no real chance of gaining power with Jeremy Corbyn as leader.

      Q

      September 19, 2019 at 11:29 am

  34. The Tories have played working-class psychology against itself. And they have done so very successfully.The working-class dislike of outsiders. People who won’t conform to the general views. People like benefit claimants and potential fake disabled. The thought, the suspicion, that other working-class are getting away with it. Trying it on. And laughing at people who are stuck in hard, low-paying jobs.
    You can hear this on any council estate or working-class pub. They don’t care about the cuts, or Universal Credit, because to them this is all years overdue.

    John Taylor

    September 19, 2019 at 12:14 pm

    • Yep, spot on. Never was a truer word spoke on this site.

      Elsa

      September 19, 2019 at 2:19 pm


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