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DWP Keeps Report on Brexit Impact Secret.

Already poverty is a major problem in the UK.

But we hear from the latest from Welfare Weekly that they are keeping the impact of Brexit on this under wraps.

 

DWP Urged To Publish ‘Secret’ Brexit Impact Analysis

The SNP has called on the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to publish secret analysis that reveals the impact of different Brexit outcomes on poverty levels, wages and low-income households in Scotland and the UK.

Neil Gray MP warned that vulnerable people were already suffering under a decade of Tory austerity and that the DWP’s refusal to publish the figures was a “damning indictment” of a Tory government intent on inflicting a damaging policy no matter the cost.

The call for the full publication of the findings comes after the Poverty Alliance used a Freedom of Information request to ask whether or not the DWP had carried out any assessments to look at the impact of different Brexit scenarios on levels of poverty and inequality in the UK, as well as analysis on the impact on low-income households, on wages, employment and costs of living.

The DWP replied to confirm that it does hold some of the analysis but that it would not publish any of the findings as it was not in the public interest to do so.

Economic analysis has already shown that crashing out of the EU without a deal will be devastating for Scotland – costing up to 100,000 jobs and hitting people’s pockets to the tune of £2,300 a year per person.

This is the origin of the story:

Peter Kelly, Director of the Poverty Alliance: “The UK Government’s failure to disclose the analysis they’ve undertaken on Brexit’s impact on poverty is alarming. We’re a society that believes in justice and compassion, and it is clearly in the public interest to know whether Brexit – especially a no-deal Brexit – will inflict harm upon people already struggling to get by.

 

Gordon Brown in Liverpool to warn that city’s most vulnerable will suffer under no deal Brexit

Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has warned life will get harder for Liverpool’s poverty-stricken families under a no deal Brexit.

Speaking in Anfield today, Mr Brown said that leaving the EU without a deal would see the cost of food increase and put pressure on local communities like those in north Liverpool that are already struggling.

The outspoken critic of leaving the EU, said that the consequences of a no deal Brexit on the UK’s food supply are already being felt with suppliers having to raise prices.

He also warned that the reliance on food coming in from the EU via Calais and Dover would see the UK’s food supply seriously disrupted in the event of no deal.

He said: “With a no deal Brexit you have two problems. One the cost of food and second the supply of food.”

“One third of our food comes from continental Europe, particularly fruit and vegetables come in from Dover and Calais.

“If we lose that supply of food, or if it’s interrupted, then prices go up again.”

 

Poverty Alliance join forces with over 85 civil society organisations to express grave concerns about no-deal

August the 29th.

The Poverty Alliance have today joined forces with over 85 organisations in expressing our grave concerns about the impacts a no-deal Brexit will have on civil society.  Together with organisations from across the UK, we have called on the Prime Minister to urgently engage with our concerns about leaving the EU without a deal on the 31st October.

Signatories of the letter have serious concerns about how a no-deal exit will be a direct threat to communities across the country, including the possible regression of rights and standards, the uncertainty of the future, and a lack of adequate engagement and support from the UK Government.

The Poverty Alliance has particular concerns about how a no-deal Brexit could impact people living on low incomes, with the likelihood that the economic impact of such a scenario could lead to significant impacts on employment and the cost of living.

Peter Kelly, Director of the Poverty Alliance, said:

“We’re a society that believes in protecting each other from harm. Yet a no-deal Brexit would represent a failure to protect people living on low incomes.

Communities across the country are already experiencing low pay, the effects of social security cuts, and high living costs. A no-deal Brexit threatens to tighten the grip of poverty further. We simply cannot allow that to happen.”

Not that Forever Amber cares tuppance:

Written by Andrew Coates

September 2, 2019 at 3:57 pm

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  1. The DWP know full well that if a No-Deal Brexit causes a recession, this means more unemployment. Putting further pressure on their Universal Credit project.

    Jeff Smith

    September 2, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    • In 2020 the Lisbon Treaty comes into force.

      1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
      2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
      3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
      4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled – but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)
      5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
      6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
      7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
      8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
      9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
      10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
      11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
      12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 – as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
      13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
      14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
      15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
      16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
      17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
      18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
      19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
      20: The UK loses control of its international policy
      21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
      22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
      23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
      24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
      25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
      26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

      Eves

      September 3, 2019 at 7:49 am

      • Well, based on the shit that the Conservatives have done over the last 10 years, e.g., social security cuts, caps and botched reforms like universal credit, I prefer EU legislation, e.g., social fund, workers rights, human rights, environmental improvement and protection etc., than anything our own home grown politicians have done. And the EU has watered down the worst of the Conservative agenda and made it less cruel and inhumane than it otherwise would have been. Just wait until the Tories can go full bore. Then we’ll all be sorry.

        Lemon Curry

        September 3, 2019 at 8:35 am

      • The EU Parliament is made up of all sorts of weird and whacky sorts from far-left Marxists to far-right Nazis. It is not some benevolent organisation. It can swing many ways, morph into something entirely different.

        Fatima

        September 3, 2019 at 9:00 am

      • Full Answer to this hotchpotch of lies:

        There’s a lot wrong with this viral list about the Lisbon Treaty

        A large number of our readers have asked us to factcheck a list of claims about the Lisbon Treaty, or “what will actually happen if we stay in the EU”, which has gone viral on social media.

        The list has appeared in numerous versions across different platforms since mid-December. The text at the beginning and end is often different, but the central list of claims is virtually identical across most of the versions we’ve seen.

        Much of it is wrong. The list is a mixture of false claims, and claims that have some truth but could be misleading given the context.

        That’s partly because many recent versions of the text wrongly say that everything on the list is due to the “Lisbon Treaty”. However, the earliest version of the list we’ve been able to find only says that some of the things on it are due to the Lisbon Treaty.

        The Lisbon Treaty
        Many recent versions of the list begin with this (or similar) text, which wasn’t present in earlier versions:

        WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LISBON TREATY, THE TREATY THAT COMES INTO FORCE 2020, ITS WORSE THAN THE SO CALLED DEAL, IF 99% OF THE BRITISH THINK THIS THE DEAL IS BAD JUST LOOK AT THE LISBON TREATY. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, LEAVERS AND REMAIMERS..“What will actually happen if we stay in the EU” is a question no remainer will ever answer but here it is warts and all.

        The Treaty of Lisbon is an agreement which made alterations to some of the key treaties setting out how the European Union operates.

        It’s wrong to say that the Lisbon Treaty comes into force in 2020. It was agreed by all EU member countries in 2007 and came into force in 2009, and has been in place ever since. If the UK were to remain in the EU beyond March 2019 for any reason then the Lisbon Treaty wouldn’t suddenly change things.

        The list
        KNOWN OUTCOMES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AGREED AS TRUE BY ALL SIDES:

        1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.

        This is wrong. The Lisbon Treaty did make changes to how EU law gets passed which reduced the scope of states’ veto ability, but it did not abolish veto powers; and these changes are already in effect, rather than coming into force in 2020. The term “abstention veto” is not a part of European Union law (as you can see by the fact that most Google results for the term are references to this list.)

        More (it’s long….)

        https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/

        Andrew Coates

        September 3, 2019 at 9:21 am

  2. 100,000 more bipolar people in work & 200,000 more suicide people in work. Soon after working one week your bipolar & suicide feelings will be cured. Yes Amber Rudd that sounds good in your dementia. What next being vetted for food banks with a Health & Well Being Form sub contracted out to Serco & Atos.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 2, 2019 at 10:57 pm

  3. The Tories have gone £50 Billion over budget on the Welfare Reform Flag Ship & over 150,000 State Sponsored Murders since 2010. Sound like a Pre Meditated Disability Hate Crime.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 2, 2019 at 11:03 pm

  4. You carn’t simply walk out on on something you’ve been in for the last forty six years’.The uproar is about a no deal Bexit,it isn’t worth the risk of a further collapse when theres a spiral out of control what point will it stop?

    Boris johnson’s handling of this has been apallling with equal leadership worrying signs’ to say the least.Someone needs to get a grip,talk reason but UK politics has decended into a complete farce with no unity except when it came to axing welfare under Ed Milliband.

    With the world watching and it could take years’ to recover from this shambles.

    ken

    September 3, 2019 at 12:18 am

    • Or nothing might happen ? Just the Sound Of Silence.

      Colin G.

      September 3, 2019 at 12:51 pm

      • Yeah, like Y2K when planes were going to fall out of the sky. According a Jo Swinson on Victoria Derbyshire this morning the UK is stockpiling body-bags in the event of “crashing out of the EU”. It’s all horseshit. Boris should just pull the plug on the EU. Do or die!

        Simon & Garfunkel

        September 3, 2019 at 1:06 pm

      • Maybe Swinton’s body bags are for Boris and his cronies if it’s “die” rather than “do”?

        FUD

        September 4, 2019 at 3:51 pm

      • ;D

        Hari Kiri

        September 4, 2019 at 4:15 pm

  5. £100 Million on No Deal Brexit adverts which does not give you any info at all. That £100 million would have been better spent than on adverts promoting criminals which the Tory Party are.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 3, 2019 at 8:22 am

    • Andrew Coates

      September 3, 2019 at 9:30 am

  6. Can’t a working-class Brexiteer please tell me how and in what ways his/her family will be better off after we leave the EU? This isn’t a trick question but one I have asked before on this forum and in person to many working-class Brexiteers and never got a cogent answer. Enthiusiasm for Brexit amongst Brexiteers seems not to be based on fact, reason or logic but faith, emotion and mythology just like a religion; all heat and no light. I’m dying to know what benefit poorer working-class people think that they will derive when the EU has no influence over us and the Conservatives can do whatever they want. Anybody out there think that food bank usage will peak, plateau and begin falling? It will be interesting to see what happens when folk will not be able to blame the EU, like the Devil, for all their woes. Bit of a shock I would imagine to discover that the religion that you clung to and which informed you was crap from alpha to omega.

    Jim

    September 3, 2019 at 8:44 am

    • Jim, leaving the EU allows us to take back control and regain our sovereignty.

      Jenni

      September 3, 2019 at 9:05 am

      • And hand it over the Rees Mogg, Cummings and Donald Trump:

        Andrew Coates

        September 3, 2019 at 9:22 am

      • Or hand it over to Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell 😉 Or is Boris Johnson a permanent fixture in No.10 Downing Street?

        Reena

        September 3, 2019 at 9:44 am

      • It would be great to see a truly Marxist Government carrying out a programme of reform unhampered by EU diktats. No wonder Jezza wants out!

        Hazina

        September 3, 2019 at 9:48 am

      • We control the EU already!

        Andrew Coates

        September 3, 2019 at 10:58 am

      • But how will that make YOU better off? Regaining “control and sovereignty” only means giving whatever government is in power more power over the population. If you have a stinking rotten government you will suffer, whereas under a progressive and enlightened government you won’t suffer as much, and all you can do is vote in general and local elections to pick the least worst evil. You haven’t told me how leaving the EU will make life better for you personally.

        Let me put it a different way: How will regaining “control and sovereignty” make YOUR life better?

        Do you believe that it be more likely for men and women to get good or better jobs? Will Britain’s social security system support all those in need adequately, particularly the sick and disabled, and make the scandal of food banks a thing of the past? Do you believe that you will be able to continue to refuse to work more than 48 hours a week for an employer if you want to? (Jacob Rees-Mogg wants to abolish this right and has said so publicly.) Do you think that people needing decent affordable rented housing be better able to get it? Do you reckon that local authorities be funded enough to enable them to discharge their duty of care properly? Are you expecting that taxes and tax thresholds will be substantially reduced for basic rate taxpayers and not for higher rate tax payers, because tax and tax threshold cuts across the board guarantee that most of the financial benefit goes to higher rate taxpayers rather than basic rate taxpayers? (Which is why George Osborne like to do it.)

        Saying that leaving the EU will give us back a modicum of “control and sovereignty” without saying what you expect the effect of this is likely to be is meaningless because the “control and sovereignty” goes to our lawmakers not to the people directly.

        Can’t you tell me to the least extent how you think leaving the EU will improve YOUR life personally?

        That’s what I’m interested in.

        Be a devil and give it a go.

        Jim

        September 3, 2019 at 11:06 am

      • @ Jenni-

        And how will that benefit you? You will not be gaining control of anything. ‘Taking back control’- meaningless crap.

        KJ

        September 4, 2019 at 12:01 am

      • we would be taking back control of our borders like. keep them immigrunts out.

        ficko

        September 4, 2019 at 7:12 am

      • Half of UK workers quit due to bad management

        Almost half of UK workers have quit a job due to a poor relationship with their manager, according to Totaljobs.

        The job board found that 26% had looked for support for mental health issues, citing problems with their boss as their main motivation for getting help.

        https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/half-of-uk-managers-quit-due-to-bad-management/

        ken

        September 4, 2019 at 10:42 am

    • @Jim – You’ll be able to have a Blue Passport. And you won’t have to worry about catching rabies from foreign dogs.

      Thomas H.

      September 3, 2019 at 12:16 pm

      • Not an agenda I would vote for and that’s my problem. Boris Johnson is a lying charlatan who will run the country into the ground and the Conservatives are a bunch of sycophantic arse-lickers who aren’t man (or woman) enough to stop him, whereas Corbyn is an incompetent dimwit who will run the country into the ground and the Labour party are a bunch of sycophantic arse-lickers who aren’t man (or woman) enough to stop him.

        I’ve got nobody likely to win power that I can bring myself to vote for.

        It’s times like this that I wish I wasn’t an atheist and could pray to the Lord to save us.

        Jim

        September 3, 2019 at 2:53 pm

      • They are all a shower of shite. You would have to go back 100 years to find somebody worth voting for. Maybe dig up Keir Hardie or Nye Bevan.

        Disillusioned Voter

        September 3, 2019 at 5:44 pm

      • It doesn’t matter what becomes of Brexit now. But we should be grateful that is was a Leave vote. It has removed any last vestige of doubt that politicians are anything other than self-serving scumbags. And importantly it has proven beyond a doubt that the UK is NOT a democracy. It is nowt but a farce. Democracy is an illusion. It is an agenda, or whatever you want to call it and the populace have no say in it. Get over it!

        Felicity de Pointe

        September 3, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    • Since it doesn’t look like the UK will be leaving the UK anytime soon. What happens if the EU does something ‘bad’. Maybe the want to conscript our kids into the new ‘European Army’. Or say it gets taken over by a Nazi faction. They issue a decree that the sick and disabled are to be transported to extermination camps in somewhere in Eastern Europe and killed. What would your position be, Jim? Would you accept this outrage or would you argue that this EU decree has no legitimacy since the UK voted to leave the EU. It could happen. Anything can happen with the EU. It is constantly evolving and has been ever since the original ‘Common Market’ that the UK signed up for. There is a surge of far-left and tar-right fruitcakes across Europe each as equally bad as the other. Remember when that far-right whacko nutjob from the Law and Order Party in Po[redacted] got elected. He swung a noose in the chamber of the European Parliament ranting that we wanted to reintroduce the death penalty world wide.

      The Questioner

      September 4, 2019 at 7:37 am

      • Any member of the EU could veto and stop such a plan.

        Titch

        September 4, 2019 at 12:31 pm

      • There is nothing to stop the EU removing the veto from members states. The EU Project is an evolving entity. We don’t know what its plans for the future are. Though Tony Benn and Enoch Powell did warn the electorate when they were being asked to join the ‘Common Market’ way back in 1974. It is not even an EU Project anymore since the EU has ambitions to expand into northern Africa to encompass countries such as Morocco and into the old Soviet Union to take in countries such as Ukraine. And further down the line, who knows.

        But the unanswered question still remains – if the EU imposes something that goes against your best interests, something bad, something truly evil are you going to turn around and weakly protest “but we voted to Leave”?

        Another thing that this whole Brexit debacle has taught us is that Parliament is an irrelevance. It is someone(s) else who are calling the shots. ‘Retired’ ex-prime ministers such as war criminal Tony Bliar and John Major? Or is someone else unseen and unknown pulling their strings? Who are they ‘front-men’ for.
        If was Maggie Thatcher who said that politicians never really retire. “we move to higher echelons of governance”. Whatever, it is obvious that characters such as Bliar and Major have certainly not retired and have moved to an upper echelon of governance. So if you are still pinning your hopes on Corbyn, Parliamentary ‘democracy’ or whatever to magic your universal credit woes or whatever away – think again!

        We should be eternally grateful to the Leave voters for exposing this shit. Imagine if the UK has voted to Remain. Everything would have continued on as normal and we would have been none the wiser. Sometimes you have to go against the grain, swim against the tide, act contrarily to flush the shit from the sewer. Our whole sham of ‘democracy’ is well and truly exposed with their pants around their ankles.

        Rafiqa

        September 5, 2019 at 7:53 am

      • No point debating with anyone who makes things up as they go along. The EU is changing, yes. Everything changes but the things that you predict have no reality or substance to them and read like the ramblings of the insane. Let’s pause for a moment and consider how things are changing at home currently, really changing that is not raving nonsense with no truth spouted by a loon. Boris Johnson has lost his majority because one of his MPs, Philip Lee, has crossed the floor of the Commons and become a LibDem, 21 senior One Nation Tories have been expelled from their party and his own brother, Jo Johnson, HAS RESIGNED and left the government of his own accord because he cares more about the country than his family. What is left of the government now is a rabble of the most right-wing Conservatives led by a Prime Minister who has a reputation for pathological dishonesty and deceit angling for a general election which parliament has so far denied him because nobody trusts his word or promises, everybody believing that if a general election is triggered he will change the date from October to November so that nothing can stop the UK crashing out of the EU with no-deal. The spending announcements that the Tory Chancellor announced yesterday are based on the UK leaving the EU with a deal and could not happen in the absence of a deal, most of the money promised being swallowed up firefighting and dealing with the damaging fallout that would follow. The British economy is NOT strong. The last quarter to June showed negative growth as the economy contracted and if the next quarter again shows negative growth we will have already slipped into recession.

        From where I stand the EU and EU politicians seem much nicer, saner, progressive, honest, reliable, humane, civilised and enlightened than the shower of shit currently overseeing Great Britain or their supporters.

        To be honest, Questioner, the things you have written above are such complete and utter manure I hardly know why I am bothering to respond to them at all. You have simply made a load of cock and bull up, without rhyme or reason, and offered them up as reasons to despise the EU. That is the behaviour of the barking mad. How utterly desperate you must be to abandon the truth so completely and resort to meaningless tissues of lies and fantasy to put forward your and advance your case.

        Kind of sad really.

        All you are doing is making yourself look like a rather stupid and hotheaded dick. Which is fine with me by the way because if anybody, anywhere, can make a good case for staying in the EU it is daft ranters and semi-sane ravers of your ilk.

        Please continue.

        (If you are an underage boy/girl please ignore everything I have the above, because I never ever argue with, reprimand or discipline other people’s children. And I have to say that what you have written above does smack to me of the outpourings of a juvenile.)

        The Answerer

        September 5, 2019 at 5:56 pm

  7. Digital Future: The New Underclass

    BBC Radio 4, 11-1130 BST today = Tues 03 Sept; repeated 21-2130 BST on Mon 09 Sept…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000823p

    Annie

    September 3, 2019 at 9:24 am

    • Thanks for the heads up 🙂

      Wireless

      September 3, 2019 at 10:17 am

    • Loved it when that bloke said: “Human beings are lazy.” Of course we are so put that in your hard-working pipe and smoke it Amber Rudd. And someone needs to tell the jobcentre too: “HUMAN BEINGS ARE LAZY. GET OVER IT!”

      Sophia

      September 3, 2019 at 10:34 am

      • Of course we are. I know some very lazy people. But most of them are too lazy to post here.
        It’s not going to work Amber, all this fake enthusiasm for work.

        Dave Blunt

        September 3, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    • Jobcentre workers are the laziest of the lot. They move like sloths. They wait until the printer nearest them has finished printing because they are too lazy to get off their far, hairy, sweaty, stinking arses to use the one on the other side of the room.

      Eileen

      September 3, 2019 at 10:40 am

      • @Eileen – True ! And why is that ? They don’t want to work…..that’s why !!

        John Reddings

        September 3, 2019 at 12:21 pm

      • You can tell they don’t want to be there… they don’t want to work. They are only there for the MONEY. They are there for their hobbies and interests outside of the jobcentre. They are there for their fancy houses, cars, boats, yachts, speedboats, jetskis, horses, fags, booze, holidays in Tenerife, Sky TV, latest smartphone, hairdos, spas, nail manicures..

        Have a listen to their conversations. And they have the brass neck to try and sell working in a stinking charity shop sorting through shit-stained knickers or toiling in a recycling plant for £jackshit to the unemployed. Jobcentre workers are every bit as lazy as the rest of us. We don’t want fucking work, hard fucking work. We want money, we want fun, we want to enjoy our time on this planet.

        somthingsurvived

        September 3, 2019 at 12:46 pm

      • @Eileen – The question I would like to see put to the Work Coaches is this, ‘Do You Really Want To Work ?’

        Andy

        September 3, 2019 at 1:53 pm

      • Jobcentre staff definitely are not there for the money. Some of them work and are also on universal credit! One minute they’re trying to chivvy people into work or work with more hours, better pay or whatever and the next one of their colleagues is doing the same thing to them! No wonder some of them they look permanently pissed off.

        Sundial in the Shade

        September 3, 2019 at 4:20 pm

      • Jokecentre staff only work when they feel like it. Most of them, if not all, are part-time, they don’t work school holidays, are always off on ‘stress leave’….

        Hyacinth

        September 3, 2019 at 5:41 pm

  8. Things That Will Happen After Brexit

    Brexit hairstyles & Brexit Wigs for bald people, Brexit paint that never dries, Brexit Hardcore Trance & Jungle, Brexit Tea Bags, Brexit Disabled Toilets. And after all that there is still no toilet paper in the schools. Perhaps the Tories should start thinking about Brexit Toilet paper.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 3, 2019 at 9:44 am

    • Andrew Coates

      September 3, 2019 at 11:05 am

      • When there’s roadkill to scavenge, eels in the rivers, acorns on the oaks and rose hips on the briars we’ve got food to eat. While there are pine needles and maple trees to tap we have woodman’s tea at our beck and call and if climate change wasn’t reducing their numbers we could fall back on hedgehogs to feast on during winter.

        Food shortages?

        More an opportunity to rediscover pluck and self-sufficiency.

        Miss A. Widdecombe

        September 3, 2019 at 11:18 am

      • Wise advice.

        Nettle soup here we come!

        Andrew Coates

        September 3, 2019 at 11:55 am

      • As far as post-Brexit Britain goes we should all take a leaf out of this Cornishman’s book:

        https://www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2008/jan/24/lastnightstvwonderlandthe1

        Bon Appétit.

        Alf the Cumberland Forager

        September 3, 2019 at 4:16 pm

      • I suppose it’s better than this:

        Andrew Coates

        September 3, 2019 at 5:04 pm

      • What’s that say in the circle? “Free Magnums” 🙂 or more likely “Free Movement” 😦

        Sybil

        September 3, 2019 at 5:49 pm

  9. @Jim – Brexit means taking control.
    But this means the government taking control of you.
    You’ll be able to have a Blue Passport, proud symbol of Empire.
    You won’t be able to travel or live in the EU without restrictions.
    You will be able to eat British Cod landed by British fishermen.
    (Thank God, or should that be Thank Cod ? )
    Most food prices will rise, by how much remains to be seen.
    Toilet Roll may become a luxury item.
    You will be able to work more than 48 Hours per week !
    Yes, each and every week, you lucky dog.
    And thank goodness for Amber and Universal Credit, who will
    help you all they can to find as much work as possible.
    No more having to vote for the EU – you can just put your fingers
    in your ears and go la-la-la, every time you hear them say something.
    It means getting used to the taste of chlorine in your food.
    And not being picky about a few rat droppings.
    So a mixed outlook really, a bit like Irish Stew.

    George Greyfield

    September 3, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    • I think I might get myself one of the new blue passports and use it eventually to leave the sinking ship.

      Jim

      September 3, 2019 at 2:56 pm

  10. May we ask why the next General Election will be held on October 14 2019 – a Monday. We understand that elections in the UK have always been held on a Thursday. We will be unable to vote due to religious reasons.

    Jacob & Meryl Cohen

    September 3, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    • Unable to prorogue parliament forever Boris wants all MPs to lose their status and become Prospective Parliamentary Candidates during the run up to a general election so that they won’t be able to do anything to prevent a Halloween Brexit. He has announced loudly that he doesn’t want a general election but being a pathological liar the opposite is bound to be true and definitely will happen if a law is passed to force him to request another extension from the EU as per the UK leaving that bloc. The man is a waste of skin.

      Unice

      September 3, 2019 at 4:27 pm

  11. Jeremy Corbyn, trying to look mysterious, as if he has some secret plan.,,, Jesus Christ when will we have an end to this ?

    Disgusted Labour

    September 3, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    • Probably when Corbyn has caused a massive defeat for Labour at the next election. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
      He might just get up again from the ruins and carry on. Like that robot in Terminator.

      John Connor

      September 3, 2019 at 2:04 pm

    • If they clone him, then there could be a permanent supply of Jeremy Corbyns. You could have an entire government made of Jeremy Corbyn Clones. Just like that Star Wars film Clone Wars.

      Clonemaster

      September 3, 2019 at 7:21 pm

  12. Some good news if you are renting from a private ‘buy-to-let’ landlord. John McDonnell is to declare war on buy-to-let landlords by giving tenants the chance to purchase THEIR property at a MASSIVE DISCOUNT. price. 😀

    Labour News

    September 3, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    • The problem with this is that it will discourage anyone from being a landlord in the first place.

      Henry H.

      September 3, 2019 at 1:57 pm

      • It’s a stupid idea. Has McDonnell been reading the Little Red Book again ? No-one is going to buy a property and then rent it to tenants, if the tenants are going to take it back from them at a discount. So the tenants make off with the property, and the landlord takes a loss on the purchase price ?

        Che Guevara

        September 3, 2019 at 2:11 pm

      • So the tenants make off with the property, and the landlord takes a loss on the purchase price ? Yeah, that’ the idea 😀

        Living Marxist

        September 3, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    • O’Donnell policy also pegs rents to 4.5 times the council tax bands, Rents would be from £200 to £750 per calendar month. The value of the property is irrelevant.

      It is a vote winner for sure. Who doesn’t like something for nothing. We are talking discounts of up to 100%. It is like Maggie Thatcher’s great council house sell-off all over again expect this time it will be bu-to-let landlords who will be losing their ‘portfolios’. It is Marxism through and through.

      Who would be stupid enough to become a landlord and risk having their assets sequestrated? Good question. Maybe O’Donnell will make it ‘retrospective’. Which fits in with his proposals for PIF-style compensation if you weren’t informed at the time you took out your tenancy that it would cheaper to get a mortgage instead.

      Wonder what other ideas McDonnell has? Sequestrating bank accounts that have more then £100 in them? 😀

      Living Marxist

      September 3, 2019 at 2:30 pm

      • Who’s this “O.Donnell” you’re writing about?

        Injun

        September 3, 2019 at 4:30 pm

      • This is the kind of thing that scares the living daylights out of Daily mail readers. A Stalinist government, McDonnell operating a Cuban-style property confiscation system.The police calling at houses and asking people
        ‘Are you now, or have you ever been Middle Class ?’

        Red Fred

        September 3, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    • Obviously this will never happen. How could any government force a private citizen to sell one of their assets to another private citizen for less than it is worth? Can’t possibly happen and destined to disappear in short order in the same way as Iain Duncan Smith’s idea to give council houses to unemployed tenants who get and hold down jobs went the way of the Dodo.

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-plan-give-away-council-5150760

      Om the Multidimensional Man

      September 4, 2019 at 12:38 pm

      • It is not without historical president. Hitler sequestrated the money and property of the Jews. The Bolsheviks stripped the middle and upper classes of all they had in the Soviet Union, It is not a new idea.

        doug

        September 4, 2019 at 3:00 pm

      • Hitler didn’t legislate to let non-Jewish person tenants of private houses buy the house they rented/leased from a Jewish person for less than it was worth. I mean he sequestered Jewish property for the Nazi German State not allowed it to be sold to non-Jewish Germans cut price, so McDonnell’s idea isn’t really the same things as what Hitler did at all. That said if McDonnell has been reported accurately his wheeze is pretty stupid and impossible to realise in peace time and very damaging to Labour when all is said and done.

        That isn’t the way you win elections.

        KC and the Shoeshine Band

        September 4, 2019 at 3:49 pm

      • And what happened to Gordon Brown’s plan to give the unemployed scooters to help them get to job interviews? 😀

        Petrolhead

        September 6, 2019 at 1:32 am

  13. Political Confusion. Let’s start with trying to boil an egg without mucking it up & no help from wives & partners.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 3, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    • Why did the chicken cross the road? To get its egg back off the politicians.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 3, 2019 at 6:13 pm

      • Better learn how to switch on the cooker or microwave first.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 3, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    • @Stepping – And yet some people will always want their eggs scrambled, or poached. It’s the same with eggs as it is with life.

      Roger Realist

      September 3, 2019 at 7:08 pm

  14. It’s time that McDonnell mounted a counter-revolution within the party. Following the ideas of Mao Tse Tung,he must not be afraid of self-criticism. ‘As we say, dust will accumulate if a room is not cleaned regularly, our faces will get dirty if they are not washed regularly. Our comrades’ minds and our Party’s work may also collect dust, and also need sweeping and washing.’ Mao Tse Tung Selected Works, Vol. III, pp. 316-17.

    Political Theorist

    September 3, 2019 at 7:04 pm

  15. So under McDonnells Tenants Law, a resident landlord could be evicted by his own tenants ? All they would have to do is buy the house, and serve the landlord with an eviction notice. If he made trouble, then the tenants just get the bailiffs to throw him out.

    Simon Townley

    September 3, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    • Yep, that’s the idea 😀

      Living Marxist

      September 3, 2019 at 7:47 pm

  16. But surely this would create a permanent class of thousands of homeless, buy-to-let landlords ? Trapped in an endless cycle of buying properties, and then being thrown out again by their own tenants. I see the hand of J.Corbyn in this, he’s been down at the allotment making policies. Has this been cleared with Momentum ?

    Colin G.

    September 3, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    • Yup, that’s the idea 🙂 Got it in one 🙂 What’s not to like? 😀

      Living Marxist

      September 3, 2019 at 7:54 pm

  17. Corbyn is a farce, Boris is a farce. Parliament is a farce. Democracy is an illusion. Our Parliamentarians serve a higher Master.

    The Ancient Order of the All Seeing Soros Eye

    September 4, 2019 at 7:22 am

  18. Nearly half of benefit claimants hit by benefits freeze can’t pay essential bills

    Almost half of benefit claimants affected by the benefits freeze have struggled to meet essential costs such as rent, household bills and food, according to findings from Citizens Advice.

    https://www.creditstrategy.co.uk/news/news-top-stories/nearly-half-of-benefit-claimants-hit-by-benefits-freeze-cant-pay-essential-bills-6188

    ken

    September 4, 2019 at 10:25 am

  19. The Annunaki , reptilian beings who have interfered with the development of this planet since ancient times.

    Seeker

    September 4, 2019 at 1:50 pm

    • Hey! Stop trying to muscle in on my gig!

      David Icke

      September 4, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    • All our technological advances are given to us from from aliens. Some timed it is far too obvious when there is a ‘giant leap’ such as digital watches in the 70s and more recently iphones, flatscreen TVs, satnavs, internet etc. You really think human beings come up with this stuff? This is what Stanley Kubrick was hinting at with the monolith in his classic sci-fi film 2001:A Space Odyssey. Without the aliens teaching the humanoids (our early ancestors) to use weapons they would have perished. We owe our very existence to aliens.

      Light Bearer of the Great All-Seeing, All-Knowing Sun Gods

      September 4, 2019 at 2:50 pm

      • @Light Bearer, this is true – also Stealth Aircraft. Using reverse-engineered UFO radar resistant materials.
        Problem is they still can’t understand how the alien photon drives operate. The technology is still beyond us. So we have to use ordinary jet engines.

        John Harrington

        September 4, 2019 at 3:31 pm

      • If aliens taught us who taught the aliens?

        Sagan

        September 4, 2019 at 3:39 pm

      • Now look. Darwin said that we were all monkeys once, which makes me wonder what we were before we were monkeys. I mean, heck, I can’t even remember being a monkey let alone what I was before I was one.

        Wallace

        September 4, 2019 at 3:40 pm

      • We read it in a book 😉

        Sent by iPhone from Alpha Centauri

        The Aliens

        September 4, 2019 at 4:10 pm

      • I was there yesterday, nice weather for a sun tan!

        Andrew Coates

        September 5, 2019 at 3:29 pm

      • Only just got back into walking on Terran soil and see this

        Andrew Coates

        September 5, 2019 at 4:14 pm

  20. Yeah, it’s not just a question of getting a couple of crashed UFOs fixing them up and then setting off into space.
    It’s more complex than that. If you take the Roswell UFO, this was damaged in the crash. No-one really knows how much. It’s not like trying to repair a broken down car. According to one guy who worked there the technology is hundreds, maybe thousands of years ahead of ours. And the pilot may have had some kind of mental link with the craft. Probably to make the controls even more responsive. It might not even be possible to replicate this using a human pilot.

    Darren

    September 4, 2019 at 3:51 pm

  21. Mark Carney, Guv’nor of the Bank of England is now back-tracking and saying a ‘no-deal brexit’ wasn’t as bad as he had predicted 😉 now that it is off the table 😀

    Bank of England: No-deal Brexit not as bad as we thought

    https://news.sky.com/story/bank-no-deal-brexit-not-as-bad-as-we-predicted-11802146

    Sky Snooze

    September 5, 2019 at 9:30 am

    • So we’re only going to lose both legs and an arm rather than all four of our limbs. Yep, that’s not as bad.

      Cherryh

      September 5, 2019 at 5:11 pm

  22. ‘ Government Urged to Publish Secret DWP Analysis of Impact of Brexit on Poverty, Wages
    And People on Low Incomes.’ What do you see that is unusual ? Nothing ? Look again.
    Let us take a letter from a word in the title, as follows:
    Impact = I , Analysis = L, Low = L, Urged = U, Government = M, Incomes = I On = N
    Wages = A, Brexit = T, Publish = I ILLUMINATI

    Secret Seer

    September 5, 2019 at 9:43 am

    • @secretseer – So, the official Codex Illuminatus on open view. Need we say more ? When the title decodes to the name of the most secret, the most enlightened. The Illuminati !

      Shadow Light

      September 5, 2019 at 9:46 am

    • Hidden in plain sight 😉

      Seering Flame of the Grand Order of the Highest Esoteric Knowledge

      September 5, 2019 at 10:16 am

  23. But if Andrew knows the secret Codex Illuminatus then he must be one of the …

    Desideratus

    September 5, 2019 at 9:56 am

    • Please Brother, do not speak the words of power ! Not on these pages where they may be seen by the profane and the ungodly ! Let us keep the sacred mysteries, and see without seeing, speak without speech. As is written.

      Zoroastra

      September 5, 2019 at 9:58 am

      • Below the all seeing eye and before the shining pyramid, yea, unto and forever, so mote it be.

        Grand Master and Paladin Illuminatus of the Grand Encampment of Tutonic Knights Templar

        September 5, 2019 at 12:43 pm

  24. Look at the first two words of the article ‘Already poverty’. This is an anagram of the esoteric instruction
    ‘Everyday Portal.’ So the initiated would prepare to use this portal for the sacred ritual. As opposed to the Higher Portal, kept only for the most sacred matters.

    Octavius

    September 5, 2019 at 1:12 pm

  25. Amber Rudd will be PM before the end of September 2019. Boris Johnson is no good under pressure & sounds like Bill & Ben The Brexit Flower Pot Men.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 5, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    • Andrew Coates

      September 5, 2019 at 4:22 pm

      • Jacob Rees Smoog being really busy. SMOOGY

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 5, 2019 at 4:29 pm

      • SMOOGY WAKE UP ELECTRICITY HAS JUST BEEN INVENTED

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 5, 2019 at 4:33 pm

      • He looks dead… unfortunately he isn’t.

        Laurence

        September 5, 2019 at 5:07 pm

  26. PM: I’d rather be dead in ditch than delay Brexit.

    So if Brexit is delayed Boris Johnson commits suicide in a ditch !!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 5, 2019 at 5:54 pm

    • Nope. Boris Johnson is a dishonourable bullshitter and out and out liar. You cannot believe ANYTHING he says, certainly nothing that would do any harm to him personally. Here is a man who would lay down the life of his brother for himself.

      Isus

      September 6, 2019 at 8:15 am

    • Bojo is neither a man of courage or a man of his word. Don’t get your hopes up.

      Reef Knot

      September 6, 2019 at 10:39 am

  27. Boris Johnson has made a right pig’s ear of being Prime Minister so far. Which only goes to show, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

    ‘ The Johnson family spoke Greek at home ‘ – Perhaps the ultimate in conceited nonsense. Ancient Greek ? It says a lot really.

    Political Sage

    September 5, 2019 at 10:59 pm

  28. Amber Rudd states that, “Clearly, it is better for people to be employed than unemployed” . It’s a commonly held assumption that any job is better than no job, but this is demonstrably not the case.

    A study carried out by the University of Manchester in 2017 showed that having a poor-quality or “bad” job may be even worse for a person’s health than being unemployed. Poor-quality employment includes that which is low-paid, insecure, has low job satisfaction, involves severe work-related anxiety, etc.

    The research found that there was no improvement in the mental health of unemployed people who started working in poor-quality jobs: their levels of mental health were very similar to those who remained unemployed; moreover, the levels of chronic stress-related bio-markers, based on elevated levels of hormones and inflammatory, metabolic and cardiovascular levels such as high blood pressure and cholesterol, were actually much higher than those of their unemployed peers. Other studies in countries such as Australia have made similar findings.

    Gangmaster

    September 6, 2019 at 1:24 am

  29. Amber Rudd states that, “Clearly, it is better for people to be employed than unemployed” .

    no one is arguing with that however Its easy say that but its much harder in practice.Jobs’ I’ve seen advertised want people within 30 minutes travel time and the supposed the lifting off the bottom mini job wants previous cleaning experience in a commercial enviornment and that was on a zero hour contract,others want DBS checks in place also.

    The latter benefits freeze will only increase mental health problems’ in the unemployed through stress anxiety being a springboard to much more serious problems’.

    Citizens Advice now looks to be based in the Jobcentre.

    Advice in Spalding for first-time Universal Credit applicants

    Citizens Advice South Lincolnshire (CASL) can now support first time applicants for Universal Credit through its ‘Help to Claim’ service, which was launched in April.

    Citizens Advice-trained advisers are now working in the job centre in Spalding, so that first time claimants can be offered face-to-face appointments, in which they are helped with evidence gathering, or preparing for their first job centre interview.

    The service is free, confidential, independent and impartial. Help to Claim sessions are run out of the Spalding job centre on Mondays and Fridays between 9am and 3pm.

    https://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/launch-of-help-to-claim-service-9082137/

    ken

    September 6, 2019 at 1:00 pm


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