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Sanctions Regime: The Story of Danielle John.

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Beginning of a Spiral of Sanctions.

DWP cuts woman’s Universal Credit ‘for missing appointments after miscarriage’

Mirror.

Danielle John from Cardiff saw her life spiral out of control following the sanctions imposed by the Department for Work and Pensions

A woman says she was driven to shoplifting and drug abuse after having thousands of pounds from her Universal Credit payments cut after missing an appointment the day after suffering a miscarriage .

Danielle John forgot to inform her work coaches about the miscarriage and later received a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions telling her that she would be sanctioned as a result.

The letter said: “You didn’t come to a meeting with us […] because of this, you’ll lose some or all of your universal credit payment for a time.

“We call this being sanctioned.”

The letter explained she would lose £10.40 every day for 229 days, a total of £2,381.6

The system lifted me from poverty. Today, Danielle John is not so lucky

Last week, a woman’s sanction letter from the Department for Work and Pensions went viral on Twitter. Danielle John, from Cardiff, simply wrote: “Was told to put this up on Twitter… this was because I had a miscarriage and missed appointment.”

These stories are fairly common now. We are used to seeing reports about people being sanctioned because of attending a funeral/cancer treatment/their child being in hospital. But this one struck me in particular because the language was so coldly efficient. Brief to the point of cruelty. I didn’t know it was possible, even in a business letter, to say: “We’re about to ruin your whole life” without a shred of empathy.

The letter, written in February 2017, starts in large font: “You’ll lose some of your payment… This reduction will last 229 days.” Two hundred and 29 days for a single missed appointment. That’s almost 32 weeks of punishment. Or, if you prefer, February until August, with no money at all. When you consider that the harsher punishments for domestic violence introduced in 2018 suggest a sentence towards the upper limit of “a fine to up to 26 weeks’ custody” for common assault, you have to wonder what fantastical, sadistic metric the DWP has used to calculate sanctions.

The letter goes on to say that for her missed appointment – I just want to pause to remind you here that Danielle John was having a miscarriage at the time of missing this appointment – she would be sanctioned £10.40 for each of those days. So, a total of £2,381.60.

Because of this Daneille John got attacked,

Contributors to this Blog are familiar with sanctions.

In February 2019, 66% the UC caseload were in the conditionality groups that could be subject to sanction, compared to 81% in August 2015. service decisions resulted in a sanction. This is up 5 percentage points from August 2018 to October 2018. migration to Universal Credit.14 May 2019

A few months ago this was the story,

Tories ditch ‘ineffective’ three-year benefit sanctions

Punishment, criticised for being pointlessly cruel, doesn’t work, admits Amber Rudd

The government is to abolish “counterproductive” three-year benefit sanctions, in an official acknowledgement that depriving jobless people of social security income for long periods undermines their attempts to move into work.

The announcement, made by the work and pensions secretary, Amber Rudd, during a speech on employment on Thursday morning, was welcomed by campaigners and MPs, who encouraged her to make further changes to the controversial policy.

But

Mentally ill universal credit claimant receives less than £6 for month after £312 deducted for sanctions

‘This poverty has no prejudice. This is the kind of thing that drives people to homelessness, and to suicide’

May Bulman 

Amber Rudd has yet to comment on the latest case.

End the Sanctions Regime! 

 

 

Written by Andrew Coates

August 12, 2019 at 11:40 am

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  1. “End the Sanctions Regime!”?

    Maybe say ‘End all sanctions without exception’

    As reference to a “Regime” could be said to imply another “Regime” may be OK?

    Frank Zola

    August 12, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    • Typical mealy-mouthed Labour double-speak.like ‘end punitive sanctions’, ‘end the punitive sanctions regime;

      Dafqah

      August 12, 2019 at 1:15 pm

  2. A £2381.60 penalty for not turning up to a jokecentre appointment? Disgusting!

    Wabisa

    August 12, 2019 at 1:19 pm

  3. You could go out in your car blind drunk and run over and kill a group of schoolkids and escape with a couple of hundred quid fine!

    Egbaston

    August 12, 2019 at 1:23 pm

    • Jobcentre sentences always have been more severe than the criminal courts. For instance the maximum length of unpaid work (community payback*) a Judge could hand down to a convicted criminal was 300 hours. Yet jobcentre ‘work coaches’ were routinely handing down sentences of 900 hours (three times what a judge could order) of unpaid work ((CWP)community work placement) for the ‘crime’ of being unemployed.

      *community payback is a direct alternative to custody

      Judge Dredd.

      August 13, 2019 at 12:49 pm

      • Yeah, roaches have far greater sentencing powers than judges.

        CWP Slave

        August 13, 2019 at 12:51 pm

  4. The astonishing level of these sanctions ! Jesus H.Christ, it’s like a Tory fantasy, Coming soon to a Jobcentre near you.

    Jeff Smith

    August 12, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    • That’s the major point: you simply can not live on the money that’s left, if any.

      Andrew Coates

      August 12, 2019 at 4:46 pm

  5. It reminds me of that old movie, Escape From New York. Where the lead character is sentenced to life imprisonment in a future New York. This has now been turned into a sort of sealed reservation for prisoners, outside normal society. It’s so bad that the guards offer him a choice of euthanasia, instead of sending him into this punishment city.

    Tom Sutton

    August 12, 2019 at 2:16 pm

  6. Trouble is Labour basically support some sanctions, as they have shown in the past. Its difficult to see how you could get a system like Universal Credit to work without sanctions. Its all about people being forced into work. People who are too sick to work. People who don’t want to work.

    Fred Harper

    August 12, 2019 at 2:23 pm

  7. Sarah’s Story

    I didn’t complete the CV I agreed to do on my Action Plan.
    ‘’I didn’t think a CV would help me, but my Work Coach told me that all employers need one. I didn’t have a good reason for not doing it, and I was told I’d lose some of my payment.I decided to complete the CV and told my Work Coach. I got a letter to say my benefit would go down for two weeks. I was told it was longer than a week because I missed a meeting with my Work Coach back in March.
    My benefit is back to normal now and I’m really pleased with how my CV looks. It’s going to help me when I’m ready to go back to work.’’

    ( It won’t really because this is a false quote made up by the DWP to support their twisted sanctions regime ).

    Sarah

    August 12, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    • I had to do one as well, but I didn’t get sanctioned in mine.

      Zac

      August 12, 2019 at 2:52 pm

      • they can do a jsd to make you show them that you have a cv as you do need one to apply for most jobs but as it is personnel data they will need ur permission to keep a copy on record and you can refuse but you do have to show the dwp you do have a cv.

        i have sent mine to over 10.000 company’s and not 1 reply from a human being so far in 2 years pmsl.

        superted

        August 12, 2019 at 5:18 pm

      • DSC_0678_01

        superted

        August 12, 2019 at 5:50 pm

    • Nit picking I know but my Local Authority doesn’t accept CVS foe ANY school post..

      katrehman

      August 13, 2019 at 7:30 pm

      • Nobody hires on the basis of a CV anyway. A CV is a means to an application form. You don’t get to pick and choose, massage what’s on the application form. It is at that stage they will want your checkable employment history and checkable references. Building sites will laugh at you if turn up on site with a CV.
        CVs are for snowflake, latte-slurpers luvvies from Islington who ‘work’ in the arts, media and performing arts.

        Latte Slurper

        August 13, 2019 at 9:30 pm

  8. It’s funny but stories like this don’t shock me anymore. It’s funny how you get used to seeing people suffering unjustly at the hands of a very bad government when it goes on for long enough. Like a terminally ill cancer patient you kind of accept that this is now your lot – the way that things are now – acknowledging that you are powerless to do anything to change it or make it go away and that you’re doomed. How can a country as liberal and compassionate as the United Kingdom used to be have plunged to such a depth? How can a government, even one as casually cruel as the current Conservative administration, have pursued such a regime to this degree? And how could the Liberal Democrats have voted for the legislation that led us to this hellish chaos while junior partner in the coalition government? I remember seeing Nick Clegg bigging up the Bedroom Tax as if it was the best thing since sliced bread and praising Universal Credit as a means to end poverty. Was Clegg a liar or and idiot or a toxic mixture of the two? Amber Rudd seems to be yet another powerless washout.

    Hubert Blaine Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff

    August 12, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    • Like a prisoner awaiting execution we are resigned to our fate.

      The Condemned

      August 12, 2019 at 5:53 pm

  9. Reblogged this on Tory Britain!.

    A6er

    August 12, 2019 at 4:25 pm

  10. Last week, a woman’s sanction letter from the Department for Work and Pensions went viral on Twitter

    That’s the quickest way to get any decision overturned.Its clearly not right.

    ken

    August 12, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    • since i won at tribunal i have not got any interaction with jcp staff other than sign on and bugger off im not even in the place 5 mins these days let alone the word provider is ever brought up now pmsl must have hit them where it hurts braking there own rules and regs to try and get a sanction and a performance bonus because they thought i was stupid lol.

      problem is to many let them get away with it tho and dont bother to fight them but the times are changing fast and will render uc not fit for purpose the way its going 😉

      if no one wants to employ you because your cv has no checkable references from a paid employers no one is interested even to clean toilets these days.

      and as conditional sanctions are 2nd on there priority list only beat buy fraud at no1 its all about sanctions and jcp staff performance to get ppl of the system it is there no 1 toll to get you of benefits or why have 3 year sanctions in the first place.!

      superted

      August 12, 2019 at 11:47 pm

      • That’s true. Most job adverts ask how many years of experience you have had doing similar work, even for completely non-skilled jobs that anybody marginally able-bodied could do immediately without previous experience of need of training. Weird doesn’t describe it.

        Sexy Bouy

        August 13, 2019 at 9:32 am

      • Cleaning toilets is a skilled job, You need to know ‘elf ‘n’ safety, mixing chemicals, the correct way to use a toilet brush, fire hazards, refilling of toilet roll dispensers, customer care… Why do you think the ‘provider’s run six month courses leading to an NVQ in Human Waste Collection & Disposal Off and Maintenance of Appliances and Equipment Technician courses if cleaning a toilet is such a simple job?

        Sadiyah

        August 13, 2019 at 9:44 am

    • Twitter is a madhouse for the clinically insane where everyone shouts but nobody listens. Saying that Government policy is based on ‘twitter storms’ and ‘Facebook (another site for the insane’ outrages’. No wonder we are going to Hell in handcart. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

      Madhouse

      August 13, 2019 at 5:44 am

    • Twitter is an online asylum for the clinically insane where everyone shouts but nobody listens. Saying that Government policy is based on ‘twitter storms’ and ‘Facebook (another site for the insane’ outrages’. No wonder we are going to Hell in handcart. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

      Madhouse

      August 13, 2019 at 5:46 am

    • Certain groups get a ‘free pass’, don’t have to provide any jobsearch evidence, aren’t sanctioned etc. Although is doesn’t say we what group the lady who received this ridiculous sanction fell falls into as it is invariably this group. It is this group that is going to come a cropper. It is the elephant in the room we don’t like taking about. The important thing is, therefore, are you a member of this group? There needs to be a proper breakdown by the DWP of the characteristics of claimants who are being sanctioned.

      Chahra

      August 13, 2019 at 6:26 am

      • You cannot be sanctioned if it is against your religious beliefs. Allah says: “A man (or woman) cannot be left without a roof over his head, food in his belly or clothes on his back.”

        Peace

        Omar and Ayesha

        August 13, 2019 at 6:32 am

      • There are FIVE levels of “conditionality” with Universal Credit.

        No work-related requirements

        You will be placed in this group if you are earning above your earnings threshold. This is usually based on what you would earn if you worked for 35 hours a week at the National Minimum Wage. If you have caring responsibilities, your threshold may be lower than this.

        You will also be placed in this group if you: have limited capability for work-related activity (LCWRA)
        receive the Carer’s Element or are providing care for a severely disabled person for at least 35 hours a week
        are responsible for a child under the age of one have reached Pension Credit age (but are part of a UC claim because your partner is working age) are pregnant and it is 11 weeks or less until your expected week of childbirth are an adopter (this is for up to one year after the adoption) are a young person with no parental support and you are in full-time non-advanced education.

        Work-focused interview requirement only

        You will be placed in this group if you are responsible for a child aged one or you are a foster carer for a child under 16 or under 18 if the child has extra care needs. If you are in this group, you will be required to stay in touch with the labour market by attending work-focused interviews. These are regular interviews to discuss plans and opportunities for returning to work in the future.You will not be required to apply for, or take up a job, or engage in work preparation activity.

        Work preparation requirement

        You will be placed in this group if you are assessed as having limited capability for work (LCW). If you are placed in this group, you will be expected to prepare for a move into work, additional work, or better paid work. Actions to get ready for work could include attending training courses, preparing a CV or taking part in the Work Programme. You will not be required to take steps to apply for or take up work as a condition of your claim.

        All work-related requirements

        This is the full conditionality group, if you are in this group you will be required to look for and be available for work. You will usually be expected to look for full-time work for 35 hours a week, and may be expected to take work of up to 48 hours per week. This can be less in certain circumstances, for example if you have caring responsibilities or have physical or mental health problems.

        In-work conditionality

        You might face conditionality requirements even though you are already in work. Your conditionality requirements depend on how much you are earning and whether your wages are over your earnings threshold. If you are earning below your threshold you will be expected to make efforts to increase your income. The DWP suggest that this may include increasing the hours you work, finding additional work or finding a new job with a higher income. The threshold is usually based on what you would earn if you worked for 35 hours a week at the National Minimum Wage. If you have caring responsibilities your threshold may be lower than this. If you are claiming as a couple, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) will look at whether you are earning above your threshold as a couple. If you are single and earning over your earnings threshold, or you are a couple and earning over your joint earnings threshold, you will be subject to no work-related requirements. If you are single and earning less than your earnings threshold but more than £338 per month, you will be subject to all work-related requirements, except for looking for work. You will still have to be ready to take up more work, to do the things your job coach asks you to and to go to work-focused interviews. If you are a couple and earning less than your joint earnings threshold but more than £541 per month, you will be subject to all work-related requirements, except for looking for work. You will still have to be ready to take up more work, to do the things your job coach asks you to and to go to work-focused interviews. If you are single and earning less than £338 per month, or you are a couple and earning less than £541 per month, you will be subject to all work-related requirements. The amount of time you are expected to spend on looking for and preparing for work will depend on how much you are working and if you have caring responsibilities.

        What you have to do depends on which group you are in.

        Jim

        August 13, 2019 at 2:07 pm

      • Thanks for that, we forget the “in work conventionality” – even if you get a job below the ‘threshold’ you are still trapped in the cage.

        Andrew Coates

        August 13, 2019 at 4:27 pm

      • People are really going to hate being chivied by Work Coaches to spend hours and hours trying to get more hours, more jobs or another job with more hours. Never before have adult lives been interfered with on such a scale before and on Universal Credit while you’re affected by the taper, i.e., earning less than 35 hour on the minimum wage, you’re under the DWP’s thumb and at their mercy even if you are employed in some capacity. Thing is unless the DWP take on thousands and thousands of new Work Coaches and similar in reality there will be far too few staff to police a regime that micromanages UC claimants like that. As things stand right now I only see my Work Coach for one half-hour a month. (Two fifteen minute appointments a fortnight apart hardly worth commuting to the Jobcentre for.) When everybody on legacy benefits are migrated to Universal Credit, unless the DWP recruit armies of civil servants, I doubt whether any of us will regularly see Work Coaches at all so I would advise people not to get too worried about all this shite about conditionality because in practice it’s probably going to turn out to be impossible to scrutinise and control people to the extent that UC is intended.

        Jim

        August 14, 2019 at 6:41 am

      • And even if you are above the ‘threshold’ you many find that you are entitled to a small amount of universal credit. So if you want to claim this small amount you have to remain under the jobcentre jackboot and all the attendant rules, regulations and restrictions of universal credit. Universal Credit is designed deliberately to keep its victims dependent on both the state and and employer – the worst of both worlds!

        Jemima

        August 14, 2019 at 11:05 am

      • Case closed!

        Jemima

        August 14, 2019 at 11:07 am

  11. Why in the Jobcentre are they so many women (all wearing headscarves ) (assume Muslim) and black women) with lots of kids in tow claiming benefits but you never see another, you would expect a male partner with them, Is this unique to universal credit where one partner, say a lazy man can send their wives down to the jobcentre for them?

    Jane

    August 13, 2019 at 6:12 am

    • Don’t know. I’ve never seen anybody like that in my Jobcentre.

      Jim

      August 13, 2019 at 2:01 pm

  12. What is keeping the poor poor is countries. We need to tear down borders, get rid of man-man artificial barriers. We are one planet after all. In the words of the wise sage, Jeremy Corbyn “all countries should be abolished” as “socialist redistribution of power and wealth… is not achieved through erection of national barriers of any kind”

    Bernadettte Humperdinck

    August 13, 2019 at 8:01 am

  13. Oddly enough I have noticed that attractive biologically accommodating girls with large shapely breasts rarely have to sign on the dole and are almost always in work if they want to work.

    Darwin

    August 13, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    • It doesn’t last though and once their tits start to sag they are thrown onto the dole heap.

      Origin of the Species

      August 13, 2019 at 2:28 pm

      • Survival then of the Tittest ?

        Science Monitor

        August 13, 2019 at 2:33 pm

  14. “Listen, there are no guarantees about jobs, in or out, under any economic circumstances.” – Amber Rudd

    I hope the Work & Pensions Secretary will remember these words, when it comes to chasing after the claimants on the Harrogate ( Managed Migration) Universal Credit Pilot Scheme. Sometimes circumstances are so set against the claimant, that it is effectively impossible for them to get any employment. No matter how many applications they make. (As Superted quite rightly says in a previous post ).

    Jeff Smith

    August 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    • Superted has been applying for over 10,000 jobs a day for over 50 years and still not ONE interview.

      Butters

      August 13, 2019 at 2:34 pm

  15. All the people involved in the development of Universal Credit should be made to undertake
    a pilgrimage of penitance on horseback, to the shrine of St.Thomas a Becket in Canterbury.
    Duncan Smith, McVey, Rudd, Damien Green, and all the rest.
    And as they ride, each should tell a story . To help pass the time, and for the moral improvement of each traveller:
    The Politicians Tale, The Wife Of Liverpool, The Bankers Tale, The Man Tempted To Sinfulness.

    Alan Turner

    August 13, 2019 at 2:52 pm

    • And what about The Man Who Kept Sending Inappropriate Text Messages ?, and that other riveting story
      The Grey Man Who Couldn’t Stop Failing ?

      Carly Summers

      August 13, 2019 at 4:53 pm

  16. when i was on esa and went to a tribunal they told me i was fit for work because because i could lift empty cardboard boxes and balance them against my body with my left arm.

    good fkn luck finding a job like that it does not exist!

    unless you match the requirements that the employer wants on ur cv it just goes in the bin.

    most reply’s i get that they want are.

    5 years paid ! work history with checkable references up to date with no brakes.
    credit check.
    crb check.
    qualifications that matches the job applied for.
    driving licence.
    passport.

    so if you have not worked in a long time or been on esa and been found fit for work ur basically fooked.

    employers are not interested in Micky mouse training scams and working as a slave for a providers profit it is not paid work.

    superted

    August 13, 2019 at 2:57 pm

  17. Really the Sanctions Spiral is in two parts, linked like the Double Helix of DNA. First the sanction itself, then the dreadful consequences, poverty, homelessness and despair. Each part of the sanction linked to the other.

    Tom Sutton

    August 13, 2019 at 3:55 pm

  18. Corbyn, Corbyn everywhere,
    And the Labour Party did shrink,
    Corbyn, Corbyn everywhere,
    And nothing left to think.

    The very deeps did rot: O Christ !
    That ever this should be !
    Yea, slimy things did crawl with legs,
    Upon the slimy sea.

    About, about in reel and rout,
    The Death-fires danced at night,
    The water, like a witch’s oils,
    Burnt green and blue and white.

    Deliverance

    August 13, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    • Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
      Had I from old and young!
      Instead of the cross, the Albatross
      About my neck was hung.

      Percy Bartlett

      August 14, 2019 at 3:33 pm

  19. when i was on esa.They didn’t pay me saying the fit note was lost then it wasn’t stamped then the original turned up after claiming JSA that was rapidly done.

    most reply’s i get that they want are.

    5 years paid ! work history with checkable references up to date with no brakes.
    credit check.
    crb check.
    qualifications that matches the job applied for.
    driving licence.
    passport.

    That does about sum the situation up.Age is another so GCSE level education/vehicle owner also. volunteering quickly seen through how did you survive the next question? also irrelevant to previous roles.Those charity shops tend to have high manager turnover also any referrence goes with them.The main thing is just keep going that will keep you going.

    There’s high expectations today the internet job era.Many more questions are asked of people at the application stage these can include online test’s.The days of the face to face meeting are replaced by received applications’CV’s and if you haven’t heard in from us in two weeks.

    ken

    August 13, 2019 at 9:20 pm

  20. Universal Credit sanctions imposed on 256,000 claimants as charity demands halt to harsh regime

    The Department for Work and Pensions revealed the shocking number of people whose benefits have been restricted over the past year.

    A DWP spokesman said: “It is only right that we expect some claimants to meet certain agreed commitments in exchange for their benefits.

    “We want to ensure sanctions are effective and support claimants, which is why we constantly review them and have announced an end to single fixed-period sanctions lasting more than six months.”

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/universal-credit-claimants-demand-change-18929068

    ken

    August 14, 2019 at 11:05 am

    • That’s what its all about. Trying to force people off benefits and into work. And using hunger and hardship as the weapons to do it.

      Dave Blunt

      August 14, 2019 at 2:35 pm

      • But that’s outrageous ! The government can’t just make people work if they don’t want to ! What about all the people who would rather not support the capitalist system ?

        Harry Carter

        August 14, 2019 at 2:49 pm

      • Claimants benefits is the only way many people can kick back against the capitalist system.

        Also, we are exhorted constantly to ‘go green’. What can be ‘greener’ that a simple, ‘umble life on benefits.
        It is not like we drive to the jobcentre in a Range Rover, are forever holidaying in Lanzarote – unlike Jobcentre staff! Why are human beings being forced into work against their will to produce shit to earn money to buy shit they neither need or want to fuel the profits of the capitalist pig? Surely claiming benefits is the way to go for a greener, cleaner planet?

        Jobcentre Rebellion

        August 14, 2019 at 3:22 pm

      • Yes I can hardly believe it but thats the truth. They are deliberately making people take jobs and go back to work.

        Colin

        August 14, 2019 at 11:03 pm

      • And what about the people who genuinely are allergic to work ? Like the ones that suffer from ergophobia. Are they going to be made to work as well ?

        Darren

        August 14, 2019 at 11:06 pm

  21. How can sanctions ‘support claimants’ by leaving them short of money ? You might as well say you can support pigs by turning them into sausages. I just wish Amber Rudd and the Department of Work & Pensions would be honest about what they are doing. Imposing a new, brutal welfare system on the British public by direct force.
    With sanctions and cruel treatment of claimants as their methods.

    Alan Turner

    August 14, 2019 at 2:43 pm

  22. Universal Credit is organised state repression against welfare claimants.

    Red Forever

    August 14, 2019 at 2:45 pm

  23. @ Jobcentre Rebellion – Yes that’s what we need a Claimants Strike ! 600 empty Jobcentres. No-one turning up to sign. No-one filling in their journal or doing pointless courses. Freedom for Claimants Everywhere !
    Comrades ! Claimants ! You have only your chains to lose !

    Johnny Jobcentre

    August 14, 2019 at 3:38 pm

    • It be interesting to see what happens, if people on courses have a sit down protest

      myfinalusername

      August 14, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    • Won’t work, can’t work. When workers strike their employer suffers because he/she loses his/her labour and the profit that accrues from that labour for however long the strike goes on. If benefit claimants go on “strike” the situation is reversed, i.e., the DWP doesn’t suffer any loses and in fact profits by not having to pay out entitlements to the “strikers” who almost certainly would end up sanctioned for not toeing the line as mandated under the law. In fact the DWP would probably secretly welcome such silliness on the part of claimants because it would save them money at the end of the day.

      Jim

      August 14, 2019 at 6:17 pm

      • Yeah, maybe so if it was just the ONE claimant, but here we are talking MASS action, MILLIONS of claimants ‘downing tools’ and refusing to attend the Jobcentre. Within days the Jobcentres would be brought to their knees.

        Claimant Action Group (CAG)

        August 14, 2019 at 6:29 pm

      • You’re missing the point, sport. If claimants went on strike the Jobcentre staff would just twiddle their thumbs, dole out sanctions, enable the DWP to make savings and earn brownie points for doing so. The only thing that claimants willing to martyr themselves by striking could achieve would be publicity if they were marching up and down outside Jobcentres chanting slogans and waving signs. With Brexit going on full-bloodedly I doubt that anybody would notice even if it made the TV and newspapers. A claimant strike is basically self-harming because it ends up with the strikers being sanctioned and the Jobcentre unaffected. What’s the point of that?

        Jim

        August 14, 2019 at 6:51 pm

      • Yes Comrades, remember the power of the proletariat !

        Red Harry

        August 14, 2019 at 8:32 pm

      • @CAG – Don’t listen to the naysayers. If we had a serious all out General Strike Of Claimants it would soon put the wind up the DWP. Think of the publicity ! The Work Coaches sending out text messages pleading for their claimants to come back – on any terms !

        Frank Jarvis

        August 14, 2019 at 8:37 pm

  24. I think I am in the Work preparation requirement group, I don’t have do a 35 hour job search, 20 hours

    myfinalusername

    August 14, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    • you dont have to do any course if you dont want to just dont sign there contracts, also the 35hr a week job search is a expectation so if you are applying for jobs and can prove it the time taken does not matter as they cant raise a ase doubt over the amount of time taken to do a job search.

      the dwp has already lost at upper tribunal over this and you only have to take 3 steps per week to look for work under law.

      superted

      August 14, 2019 at 5:23 pm

  25. Here is saying.It looks like theres one set but then is saying something else.In my opinion since those regulations’ were found unlawful then the rest must be under suspicion,hence the back of a fag packet claim.

    95.—(1) A claimant is to be treated as not having complied with a work search requirement to take all reasonable action for the purpose of obtaining paid work in any week unless—

    (a)either—

    (i)the time which the claimant spends taking action for the purpose of obtaining paid work is at least the claimant’s expected number of hours per week minus any relevant deductions, or

    (ii)the Secretary of State is satisfied that the claimant has taken all reasonable action for the purpose of obtaining paid work despite the number of hours that the claimant spends taking such action being lower than the expected number of hours per week; and

    (b)that action gives the claimant the best prospects of obtaining work.

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2013/9780111531938/regulation/95

    ken

    August 14, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    • here is a cc from must be now over 10 years ago to do a 30hr work search so it is nothing new to me but the only thing that they can enforce on a cc is looking and applying for work.

      DSC_0689

      so if you are looking and applying for work if it is more than 3 applications a week if it went to a tribunal about not spending 35hrs a week job searching the dwp will loose because the 35hr a week is not a law, it is a expectation that they have come up with to put fear in to ppl if they dont do it and put ppl of claiming in the first place.

      there is no point taking in 5000 word job searches because they will not even look at it all they look for is job applications and how many of them for what sort of jobs you would be capable off.

      i now get over 150 local jobs a day sent buy email from job sites it does not take 10 mins to go through them and 1 click apply for jobs i might be able to do.

      there is no way they could raise a ase doubt for not spending 35hrs a week job searching as i got a stack 5inc high with 10k of applications all printed out with time and date 😉

      and because of the gdpr they cant check any of them because it is personnel data and would need ur permission.

      not that they would tell the dwp anything anyway as the gdpr also apply to them so if you can up with enough job apps a week the dwp are pretty much stuffed as they can not police it or enforce the 35hr job search thus why it is a expectation that a work coach can decide how much or how little hrs wise you will get.

      superted

      August 14, 2019 at 8:41 pm

      • @Superted – But what about writing it out ? Don’t you have to write a journal about what you are doing to jobsearch that looks like you are doing the 35Hrs ?

        Andy

        August 14, 2019 at 10:59 pm

      • no lol 😉

        superted

        August 15, 2019 at 12:18 am

      • DSC_0052

        superted

        August 15, 2019 at 12:24 am

  26. For Amber

    Tongue Tied by Jacob

    You like her eyes
    you like her face
    you like her hands
    her bitten nails seem in place.

    But you struck her blind
    crazy tears roll down.
    Its not her fault its not yours,
    no scapegoat found…

    She’s waiting to see love destroyed
    she’s waiting to see love destroyed
    and it’s downtown to these things you cant avoid

    JRM

    August 14, 2019 at 11:19 pm

  27. @Superted , But that means just doing a fake jobsearch all the time ?

    Jack Reid

    August 15, 2019 at 9:47 am

  28. I think it’s time Claimants demanded a halt to the harsh regime of Universal Credit.

    Gary

    August 15, 2019 at 9:49 am

  29. @Superted , But that means just doing a fake jobsearch all the time

    Some good valid points are raised that’s from applying to adverts’ also to the problems’ faced by the longer term unemployed through experience something Amber Rudd is not tackling.She’s supposed to be representing us but appears more vocal about Brexit and events locally in Hastings.When people are all saying the same thing there’s clearly something wrong something endless Universal Credit sanctions’ won’t resolve simply giving up on people and abandoning them.

    ken

    August 15, 2019 at 10:37 am

    • you could do a fake job search but all the jobs i have applied for are real and sent with a full cv not that i get any reply’s anyway lol.

      superted

      August 15, 2019 at 11:17 am


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