Job Centre Opening Hours to Expand in line with “banks and GP surgeries”.
This has been of concern for many people who do not live near a job centre.
What It’s Like To Lose Your Local Job Centre
Between 2016 and 2018, more than 100 job centres – about 15% of the network – were closed for good.
Huffington Post (2019)
Why are Britain’s jobcentres disappearing? The Conversation.
Britain’s national network of jobcentres is currently undergoing radical change as the government implements multiple welfare reforms and cuts as part of its continued austerity drive. Between 2016 and 2018, over 100 jobcentres – about 15 per cent of the network – will have closed.
Support for the long-term unemployed and disabled jobseekers has also been cut. A new Work and Health Programme will assist less than a quarter of the participants of the programmes it replaced. Across the country, hundreds of specialist organisations working with jobseekers have lost contracts, and thousands of experienced employment advisers have lost their jobs.
Anybody who lives in places like Suffolk, outside the towns like Ipswich, knows the struggle it is to use public transport to get anywhere, let alone to attend a meeting with Coachy in the Job Centre at the constantly changing times of appointments to sign on.
Yet things are taken a new turn.
A few days ago the far-right Daily Mail published this story, which their friend Amber Rudd publicised,
- Amber Rudd wants to help employees search for new job or get retraining tips
- Work and Pensions Secretary said change would bring centres into line with banks and GP surgeries
- Miss Rudd said new opening hours would help people better themselves in work
Job centres will stay open in the evenings and at weekends to help older workers change career. Amber Rudd said she wanted to make it easier for employees to search for a new job or get advice on how to retrain
‘However it’s not just important to get people into work, it’s vital we help people get even better work earning even more money,’ she said.
‘So opening up job centres in the evening and on Saturday will help people who are busy working, by making our services more available at convenient times.
‘Because the job centre is not just a place for benefits.’
Job centres in seven areas – Chester, Dudley, Oldham, Poplar, Todmorden, Wick and York – will open in the evening and on Saturdays as part of a trial before ministers decide on whether to extend the system to all 600 across the country.
‘Work coaches’ will also offer advice to clients outside regular working hours.
Miss Rudd said the new opening hours would help people better themselves in work, access higher pay and protect themselves from technological changes, such as automation.
‘I want everyone, no matter their background, to progress in the workplace and outperform their and society’s, expectations,’ she said.
‘From stay-at-home parents, particularly women, to older workers wanting a new career, offering more job centre availability could make a massive difference, and I’ll be watching this trial closely.’
‘As the Prime Minister said in Parliament this week, this is a Government which raises people up.
The Work and Pensions Secretary said the shake-up would bring job centres into line with the banks and GP surgeries that have extended their hours of operation.
Next they will be having Gestapo HQ open 24/7 imagine that!
Violet
May 21, 2019 at 11:50 am
Hmmm…as a worker who does split shifts school cleaning 6.30am_9am and 3.15_5.45pm Monday to Friday and also suffering atm chronic insomnia and adjusting to living in a shared house at 55 bcoz that’s all I can afford without UC …all I can say is I’d be too bloody exhausted to drag myself to a JCP after work and Saturday and Sunday are MY time! It’s precisely another reason I chose not to claim UC and I pity anyone who has to or does claim it…ppl in similar circumstances to me claiming will quite literally NEVER have time to switch off and relax
katrehman
May 21, 2019 at 12:08 pm
Their hoping people will just bugger off.Its ridiculous state interference in peoples’ lives thats both time consuming and has has an element of control with heavily demanding expectations.Anyone who fills in that journal is exposed to anybody with access anywhere who can create severe problems such as an unexpected sanction for no real reason,its hard to see people working and have to deal with that and the stress created more so if they’ve been found fit for work suffering from anxiety and mental health problems. They’ve crept into GP surgeries too meddling and up to who knows and access to what?
Anyone who can juggle all this is and keep on top is a very able person,many people are not so adapt to manage such demanding multi tasking and are at risk of severe consequences through no fault of their own.
Once you found a job and signed off,now its pop in after work.
ken
May 22, 2019 at 6:01 pm
UC: 35 hour a week work search tool and commitments form
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/uc_35_hour_a_week_work_search_to#incoming-1369331
jj joop
May 21, 2019 at 12:09 pm
You notice there JJ how they say ’35 Hours’, not 10 hours or 20 hours ? Nor do they say ‘I told them I wasn’t doin it and cor blimey they gave me twenty quid to do one… I told them I’d take em to the tribunal, to the High Court.. it ain’t legal..” etc. etc.
David Sutton
May 21, 2019 at 12:29 pm
Young man applies for 400 jobs in two years & is still unemployed, while dealing with a DWP sanctioning regime that demands he and thousands of others continue looking for jobs that don’t exist with constant rejection that leads to depression and suicide
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/young-man-applies-400-jobs-16175679
Violet
May 21, 2019 at 12:16 pm
400 lol in 2 years i am at 9126 and had over 1000 on ujm and not 1 interview
superted
May 21, 2019 at 12:38 pm
Here ve have a true sufferer from alienation to ze concept of employment.
Dr. R. Heinkel
May 21, 2019 at 12:54 pm
That’s because these so called jobs don’t exist ted it’s a fooking joke.
Violet
May 21, 2019 at 1:02 pm
I can do better than that mate. I’ve had over a ten thousand job applications and not one bleeding interview.
They told me to go on mandatory work activity thirty times. Each time I told them where to stick it.
Then the manager of the training company came out of his office and knelt down before me on the carpet and begged my forgiveness, stupid bastard.And I warned him, it better not happen again.
They tried to send me on the Work Programme the stupid tossers, but I went down there
and told them to no way was I doin it. I refused to sign the form, and I took out me lighter and set fire to it.
That set off the fire alarm, and then the sprinklers came on, there was a mad rush to the fire escape, and then everyone was outside soaking wet. Serve them right.
I’ve had two hundred sanctions from The Jobcentre, and I couldn’t care less. Every time I take them to the Tribunal, and as soon as they see its me they say right we know this man, and they find in my favour. Course I do without my giro a lot, but I make do. Have you ever tried fried rat ? Lot better than you might imagine, skin it and cut off the tail, tasty.
Johnny Jobsworth
May 21, 2019 at 1:15 pm
well if the plan was to get everyone on uc and force them to apply for any zero hour jobs is not going to work as i have applied for all of them 100 times over pmsl.
my new work coach only lasted for one interview and was dumped again buy post to just sign on and go i really do not see the point of even going anymore it is just a total waste of time.
just goes to show if you stand up to them and wipe out there staff at a tribunal you are to hot to handle as there bs and lies dont work anymore and thus renders them powerless.
superted
May 21, 2019 at 2:13 pm
Thank you for your application for the position of Sales Advisor – Life & Health Insurance with Assured Futures . As you can imagine, we received a large number of applications. I am sorry to inform you that you have not been selected for an interview for this position.
Assured Futures would like to thank you for the time you invested in applying for the role .
Best wishes for a successful job search. Thank you, again, for your interest in our company.
that is pretty much all i get as reply’s computer said no lol.
superted
May 21, 2019 at 2:45 pm
Now we are seeing the full reality of the new system of jobseeking, as developed by Iain Duncan Smith & Co.
Claimants monitored 24/7 online. Supervised online, and if need be, sanctioned online.
IDS was at the forefront of the idea that the DWP could save money by closing the larger part of the Jocentre network, with Universal Credit enabling virtually everything to be done online. The claimant perhaps only seeing an actual advisor at the very start of their claim, and then only every 6 months or so.
Less Jobcentres, less staff and less costs. So a vote winner for Mr & Mrs Taxpayer.
Jeff Smith
May 21, 2019 at 12:23 pm
As the prime minister said in parliament this week, this is a government which raises people up….. Then they drop them from a great height and then shit on them just for good measure! B@st@rds!
Tigerlily
May 21, 2019 at 1:15 pm
Reblogged this on sdbast.
sdbast
May 21, 2019 at 1:33 pm
All available data, including the DWP’s own 12 month pilot of “in-work progression”, show that the idea that large numbers of people can get more hours, more jobs or a better job allowing them to earn more money and eventually become much better off is not true. The progression that Amber Rudd seems to believe that the DWP can force on people or foster in them doesn’t actually exist in reality. Rudd should know this from the DWP’s own data and statistical analyses and the fact that she seems mad keen to peddle the lie is very worrying indeed.
Jim
May 21, 2019 at 1:40 pm
Reblogged this on Tory Britain!.
A6er
May 21, 2019 at 1:44 pm
Andrew Coates
May 21, 2019 at 4:23 pm
i think the only reason for doing this is to get ppl down the jcp office that are in work and not doing the 35hrs per week and to get them looking for more hrs or 2-3 more jobs to cover the 35hrs or else.
and as you are in work they can and will sanction ur housing benefits if you do not comply.
superted
May 21, 2019 at 6:26 pm
Yep. Trouble is people don’t want to work multiple jobs spread out over the day and evening. On person I know does 3 hours at a supermarket in the morning, 2 hours cleaning in the afternoon, followed by 2 hours cleaning in the evening meaning that she’s on the go from dawn to dusk. There’s a big difference in going to one location, doing one day’s work and going home at the end of the day than having to leave home, go to work, go back home until it’s time to start your second job, leave home to go to work, go back home until it’s time to start your third job, leave home to go to work and then go back home again. That’s an awful lot of travelling, disruption and expense to end up with shit-low wages which still leave you poor.
People are really going to HATE being treated and living like this when THIS is the new normal.
Jim
May 22, 2019 at 7:22 am
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In Association with Universal Credit and Mini-Jobs
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Starring Cock Roach
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FROM DAWN TO DUSK
May 22, 2019 at 8:33 am
I think another reason is that as six benefits have are being rolled into one, i.e. Universal Credit, more people are under the same cosh as the unemployed. I sign on at a small JCP in Cambridgeshire and I’ve certainly noticed an increase in traffic since my JCP went over to full service UC last September.
jj joop
May 22, 2019 at 8:34 am
Anybody who lives in places like Suffolk, outside the towns like Ipswich, knows the struggle it is to use public transport to get anywhere.
Its the same everywhere if someones going to struggle getting to a Jobcentre then thier going to have problems traveling to a job more so shift work let alone the supposed multiple part time jobs’.I really dont see this as being much help at all if anything it shows desperation and Universal Credit isn’t working.Its no good trying to offer this and that if the problem is lack of skills jobs,age perhaps a disability and the dictating demanding it all agency wanting people with their own transport a smartphone in the right hand and the expectation of hitting the ground running by their clients.
Why are they opening in the evenings its not as if people are working during the day.
ken
May 22, 2019 at 6:07 am
Good point, though people on part time work who get Universal Credit have to prove they are actively looking for more work and to better their lowly station.
Andrew Coates
May 22, 2019 at 10:01 am
Andrew Coates
May 22, 2019 at 10:00 am
Philip Alston ought to be knighted for services to UK society. If the Tories had any shame they’d stop what they are doing. Stop laughing at the misery they have caused, and do something about it.
Jeff Smith
May 22, 2019 at 6:20 pm
From dawn to dusk yep rings a bell. I “just” do 2 cleaning shifts now and live 5 mins away so transport not a problem but until last year I did 6.30_9.15am cleaning back to same place noon til 1.30 senior playleader then back 3.15_5.45pm cleaning. I had no choice but to leave lunchtime after I literally keeled over under the strain. A woman I work with does the 2 cleaning shifts with me then buses to a 3ed cleaning job 7pm _9pm. It’s no way to go but we’re just glad we are working and out of JCP reach 4 the time being
katrehman
May 22, 2019 at 10:09 am
Andrew Coates
May 22, 2019 at 10:31 am
I had applied for a lot of jobs, but still get moaned out by my work and health programme advisor at reed in partnership, moaned because I did not get a 2nd job interview (which I got the interview myself)
All the providers want is there outcome payments.
myfinalusername
May 22, 2019 at 2:41 pm
UN report compares Tory welfare policies to creation of workhouses
Ministers in denial about impact of austerity since 2010, says poverty expert
A leading United Nations poverty expert has compared Conservative welfare policies to the creation of 19th-century workhouses and warned that unless austerity is ended, the UK’s poorest people face lives that are “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short”.
In his final report on the impact of austerity on human rights in the UK, Philip Alston, the UN rapporteur on extreme poverty, accused ministers of being in a state of denial about the impact of policies, including the rollout of universal credit, since 2010. He accused them of the “systematic immiseration of a significant part of the British population” and warned that worse could be yet to come for the most vulnerable, who face “a major adverse impact” if Brexit proceeds. He said leaving the EU was “a tragic distraction from the social and economic policies shaping a Britain that it’s hard to believe any political parties really want”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/22/un-report-compares-tory-welfare-reforms-to-creation-of-workhouses
Andrew Coates
May 22, 2019 at 3:58 pm
The Tories are not in a state of denial. They are in a state of being uncaring bastards. That is a different thing.
Tom Hartford
May 22, 2019 at 6:23 pm
Once upon a time the British worked to live but under the Tories all we do now is live to work. All I want is ONE full-time job which pays me enough to support myself. What I don’t want is umpteen part-time or zero-hour contract jobs which together don’t enable me to earn enough to support myself and continually harassed and chivvied by Jobcentre clerks to do better, get more hours, more jobs, or a much better job when I’ve already done the best I can.
This is like something out of Kafka.
It used to be “No rest for the wicked” and not its turning into “No rest for those not fully employed”.
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff
May 22, 2019 at 6:38 pm
Ya, zat is so true, Herr Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff.
And vonce again ve see ze continued effects of Inherent Spite Syndrome
in ze DWP, or Inhärentes Trotz-Syndrom.
Ze total lack of logic, belief in a non-existent reality.
Persistent denial, a conflict vithin ze deep layers of ze subconscious.
Ze only way to achieve relief of ze symptoms of ITS vould be for ze
DWP to drop its cruel practices.
In particular ze system called Universeller Kredit.
And for all ze staff, not least Frau Rudd and Herr Couling, to undertake
a course of treatment. Involving kindness and compassion, and a greater
grasp of reality.
Doctor R. Heinkel
May 22, 2019 at 7:07 pm
The Nuremberg Defence: “Vi vas vonly vollowing vorders.” has been found to be invalid!
Eva Braun
May 22, 2019 at 10:16 pm
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2019/05/dwp-s-universal-credit-uncovered-newspaper-advert-backfires
superted
May 22, 2019 at 9:44 pm
Have the DWP learned nothing? Seems so!
*This comment is for illustrative purposes only*
'Zac' and 'Sarah'
May 22, 2019 at 10:22 pm
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/universal-credit-union-blasts-dwp-16048059
Universal Credit union blasts DWP ‘propaganda’ as staff announce two-day strike
Call handlers in Wolverhampton and Walsall will strike on May 28-29 in protest at workloads and staff shortages.
they timed that right with the bank holiday lol 😉
superted
May 22, 2019 at 11:10 pm
Hi guys ! How are the jobs going ?
Fred Dartley
May 23, 2019 at 9:07 am
I had one job interview in the last three years (which i got myself) these work and health programme, work programme do not work. my advisor on the work and health programme pulled a face because I did not get the job, so he could not get credited for finding the job for me.
myfinalusername
May 23, 2019 at 7:56 am
Anybody would think that Farage was prime minister and a world falling apart could be glued back together with bullshit.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/17/universal-credit-dwp-jobcentre-visit
It’s Orwellian.
“How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?”
’‘Four.’‘
“And if the party says that it is not four but five—then how many?”
The DWP seems to think that if it keeps saying that universal credit is great then it is great based on their say-so no matter how much evidence to the contrary gets submitted by no matter how many independent experts, individuals, institutions or bodies. The Toynbee article – see link above – says it like it is. What hope is there when a corrupt government seems to have begun to believe its own lies? How can anything ever be set right when politicians abandon the truth for a tissue of lies. Post-Brexit Britain looks set to be a much poorer, colder and much crueller place to live in.
Ro
May 23, 2019 at 8:35 am
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2019/05/dwp-s-universal-credit-uncovered-newspaper-advert-backfires
T-Bone
May 23, 2019 at 8:45 am
I hope Andrew is laughing about this. Ipswich Unemployed Action was one of the first blogs to bring to light
this disgraceful campaign of false propaganda by the DWP.
Amber Rudd should now be sanctioned for making a false statement about employment.
Richard Stoneman
May 23, 2019 at 9:13 am
Truly, the Tories are beyond shame with what they have done.
Gerald Collins
May 23, 2019 at 9:09 am
I know one thing – I’ve had enough of doing the DWP’s dirty work. They can stick their job.
DWP Call Handler On Strike
May 23, 2019 at 9:16 am
Universal Credit is the most wonderful thing ever !
It’s so wonderful, I can hardly believe we are letting people sign up for free !
So rush down to your local Jobcentre and sign up for Universal Credit straight away !
And don’t forget to say Amber sent you ! ! xxx
Forever Amber
May 23, 2019 at 10:14 am
I had enough arguing with my advisor at said provider whether or not to mention my disability, and mental health of anxietym, why lie.
myfinalusername
May 24, 2019 at 6:15 pm
because they want there job outcome payment they dont give a crap if you lie to get a job and get found out and then loose it they still get paid!
superted
May 24, 2019 at 6:27 pm
Not declaring a disability in an application can lead to problems in the future if there is an employment tribunal. An employer cannot be expected to make reasonable adjustments if they do not know that you have a disability.
https://www.theguardian.com/higher-education-network/2016/mar/11/i-have-a-disability-when-do-i-tell-a-prospective-employer
Its best come clean,simply saying “why did he/she say something” or “he/she was stupid” is no argument to the reality of the issue,not declaring will have a negative effect long term and your the one who will have to deal with it.Not declaring often leads to workplace bullying,if they know and that happens it becomes sticky for them.If they drive you out then theres more legal protection.
Some better companies take the situation seriously and value staff and theres a respect all round but if thats non existent.
ken
May 25, 2019 at 3:39 am
I always put it in, I am more likely to get a job when I am not one of these scam services, the work and health programme for some have not be tailor to each person needs, reeed in partnership are worst than A4e.,
myfinalusername
May 25, 2019 at 11:04 am
because they want there job outcome payment they dont give a crap
The problem with these companies is they take a negative view of someone,at that point any relationship immediately breaks down.As Superted points out once people fill in application forms for this help their signing into others negative attitudes/opinions,refusing to see facts is another problem which at best leads no one nowhere.I don’t know about anyone else but experience here lead to bullying,imature behaviour and treated second behind others’ and constantly under threat.
ken
May 25, 2019 at 2:07 pm
The only good thing the provider has done for me is probably sent to a do a course, where I possibly met my future girlfriend, can providers claim for this., as a match making service. just one more session with my advisor at reed in partnership, my job centre advisor has already signed me up to somewhere else, who offers a better service (as I had 3 meetings already,)
myfinalusername
May 26, 2019 at 7:22 pm
your adviser can sign you up to nothing it is up to you to sign provider contracts and it will be the same old shit provided buy a different brand shovel.
superted
May 27, 2019 at 4:47 pm
Like superted I have plenty of those responses back from companies, due to high demands, high number of applications you have not be selected for an interview,
I have probably applied for some jobs via employment agencies about 500 times already and not had an interview,
myfinalusername
May 27, 2019 at 4:08 pm
They just don’t see it at the DWP. The problem with Universal Credit is not just the money, it’s the misery that goes with it. Nobody gives a toss about being £10 a week better off if they are being hounded by the Jobcentre.
Alan Turner
May 27, 2019 at 8:49 pm
I don’t think some of the staff would want to work during the evenings, Saturdays, could see them having to work Sundays, bank holidays and Christmas Day etc
myfinalusername
May 28, 2019 at 4:48 pm
wot if a claimant like said they could only come in on a sunday evening, christmas morning, early on new year’s day like?
primrose
May 28, 2019 at 4:52 pm
Portsmouth mum reveals how Universal Credit has left her threatened with eviction and unable to feed her family
‘UNIVERSAL Credit was meant to leave me better off – instead it has left me facing eviction and barely able to feed my family.’
within six weeks of getting her first payment, she was left so short of cash she was forced to go to a food bank.
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/portsmouth-mum-reveals-how-universal-credit-has-left-her-threatened-with-eviction-and-unable-to-feed-her-family-1-8943688
ken
May 28, 2019 at 7:48 pm