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The Bedroom Tax that Never Went Away.

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It’s still there, and worse, under Universal Credit.

Amongst all the other things about Universal Credit, wait for payments, sanctions, benefit freeze, on-line forms and the hated ‘journal’, life under the rules of Coachy, and all the rest, most people, well this Blog for one, had forgotten about the Bedroom Tax.

Not, apparently the dogged Newshounds of the regional press.

Today: Birmingham Live.

Universal Credit claimants face bedroom tax of up to 25 per cent – here’s what you need do

These are the Universal Credit housing rules – as Government tries to make system fairer for tenants.

People receiving Universal Credit are being hit by cuts in their benefit because of the so-called bedroom tax.

Those in council or housing association properties are finding their Universal Credit reduced if they have more rooms than they need – even if there is a lodger living in one of them.

The amount paid to cover the rent could be slashed by as much as 25 per cent, says Shelter and Citizens Advice.

Bedroom tax – more formally known as under-occupancy penalty – was introduced in 2012 to reduce housing payments to those with spare bedrooms.

And it applies to Universal Credit, which has replaced six existing social security payments including the old housing benefit.

Liverpool Echo.

Claimants warned that Bedroom tax can reduce Universal Credit payments by 25%

Payments can be reduced – even if there’s a lodger living in the room.

If you want further cheer..

Birmingham Live.

The TRUTH about Universal Credit – from DWP Jobcentre staff

These are the stories of the staff who deal with Universal Credit on a daily basis.

Meanwhile Amber Rudd is still relentlessly full of high spirits.

Written by Andrew Coates

March 25, 2019 at 11:22 am

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  1. London councils pay landlords £14m in ‘incentives’ to house homeless people

    Almost 6,000 payments made in 2018 to secure housing for vulnerable people

    Guardian – 25th March 2019

    Cash-strapped London councils are paying private landlords more than £14m a year in “incentives” simply to persuade them to house homeless people, the Guardian can reveal.

    The sweetener payments of up to £8,300 each were made to landlords more than 5,700 times in 2018 to house people who were either homeless or considered at risk of homelessness, freedom of information requests have revealed. The payouts are made in addition to rent and have been branded as ludicrous by housing campaigners and intolerable by councils.

    Read More:
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/25/london-councils-pay-landlords-14m-in-incentives-to-house-homeless-people

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 25, 2019 at 12:00 pm

  2. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating!.

    A6er

    March 25, 2019 at 3:30 pm

    • DWP: Mental health bosses seek answers from Government over benefit cuts

      The Tees Esk and Wear Valleys NHS trust has written to the DWP after its patient safety group raised concerns.

      Mental health bosses on Teesside are seeking a response from the Government over benefit payments being “terminated without any explanation”.

      The Tees Esk and Wear Valleys NHS trust has written to the Department of Work and Pensions after its patient safety group raised concerns.

      Details of the letter were revealed in talks about how the trust learns from deaths and serious incidents on Tuesday.

      https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/dwp-mental-health-bosses-seek-16032585

      ken

      March 27, 2019 at 2:17 pm

  3. Looks like the DWP staff in Birmingham think that universal credit is the best thing since sliced bread.

    Steve-O

    March 25, 2019 at 4:31 pm

  4. Essex Road man left to live off £4 a fortnight by DWP error says ‘sorry’ isn’t good enough
    https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/politics/man-neglected-by-dwp-and-left-with-4-a-fortnight-to-survive-on-1-5957865

    superted

    March 25, 2019 at 5:10 pm

  5. Universal Credit has been the elephant in the room for years, and now some people are going ” Look ! There’s an elephant in the room !” And as for those DWP ‘save-my-job-and mortgage’ collaborators, you notice none of them give their name ? They are basically reading those positive comments from a prepared statement, with their managers looking on. Amber Rudd still hoping if she distracts people with a hailstorm of spin, they won’t notice what is really going on.

    Jeff Smith

    March 25, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    • they dont like it at all when you give as good as you get tho, also note what it says at the end.
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      i did reply but i said i will treat the staff the same way they treat me like a piece of shit! 😉

      superted

      March 25, 2019 at 9:44 pm

      • A lot of that was caused by “post work programme support” and other end of programmes’ supposed to be helping those unemployed,the opportunity to take an antagonise/confrontational often aggressive approach to people who where already very low and weary,most were older people.Age isn’t seen as attractive.

        ken

        March 26, 2019 at 8:44 am

      • I had exactly the same response when I stood up to my roach.

        jj joop

        March 26, 2019 at 4:30 pm

  6. Its council tax bills that are a problem,rising energy costs with food increases’ and inflation in general when the figures are added up earnings locally fall short if theres the work at all.Employers’ move out of area’s to cheaper sometimes rural locations demanding own transport,employment agencies’ demanding and expecting the earth from people all mount to considerable barriers.Add to that age a possible disability Universal Credit isn’t going to solve any of these problems’.

    ken

    March 26, 2019 at 8:34 am

  7. Roach is sending me to a provider 😦 Provider is demanding that I bring proof of ID, photo ID, proof of address and really importantly according to them proof of date of birth. Am I legally required to bring any of these to a provider? Am I legally required to bring anything at all to a provider? Thanks in advance 😉

    Worried Jobseeker

    March 26, 2019 at 9:51 am

    • no because if you refuse to sign there contract they cant process any personnel data anyway 😉

      superted

      March 26, 2019 at 11:19 am

      • …and if you are on universal crap they will shut your claim down and leave you penniless , tread very carefully.

        violet

        March 26, 2019 at 11:29 am

      • Cool 🙂 Thanks for that, ted. Just what I wanted to hear 😉 I won’t be bringing anything in then. And won’t be signing any contracts either. They can go whistle 😀

        Worried Jobseeker

        March 26, 2019 at 11:30 am

      • Ask the Provider for ID, name, address, photo ID, date of birth because until you do I don’t know who you are. The Provider will of course not comply like some cold caller from the DWP. When the DWP ring up I ask them to prove that they are the DWP & I want proof before I tell them anything. You could be anyone. I know who I am who are you !!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        March 26, 2019 at 12:09 pm

      • Violet

        Have you put in complaint yet about your Jobcentre’s illegal and underhand treatment of you in relation to the WHP?

        jj joop

        March 26, 2019 at 4:34 pm

      • @Worried Jobseeker

        I’d be careful there WJ. If you have been directed to attend this provider’s course, and if it is a mandatory activity, and you don’t go, or start refusing to sign forms etc.
        Then you will be sanctioned, either under JSA or Universal Credit.
        So yes, you can tell them to get stuffed. But it will cost you a sanction to do it.

        Jeff Smith

        March 27, 2019 at 3:51 pm

      • jeff

        it is not mandatory to sign providers paperwork/contracts per dwp own rules and regs if the adviser raises a sanction over this then add the foi that states this when you are asked to reply in writing to the dm.

        every time i have done this it has gone no further than the dm and sanction doubt was dropped.

        the only time i have had a sanction is when i did a mr over the phone as wanted to end it once and for all and the dwp lost in 9 mins and adviser was sacked as a result.

        now every jcp office play there own game when it comes to the rules and regs but at the end of the day they are not above the law.

        you do have to attend and participate but if they wont get there money then they are the ones that fail to participate as they wont want you there.

        on the lms it says dna on every place they have sent me to even tho i did attend lol.

        superted

        March 27, 2019 at 4:12 pm

      • You can get sanctioned for sticking with the rules as well. They get commissions for sanctions. If one is getting difficult they will give you a sanction. Breaking the rules is what the DWP are their for. Sanctioned means you are now a employment figure. Theresa May’s suicide policy is based on sanctions.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        March 27, 2019 at 8:29 pm

      • and dont forget if you do sign that provider contract they will have control over you they will not give a dam if you turn up 10 mins late and recommend a sanction doubt and as you signed a legal contract with the provider ur stuffed.

        so if you are on a 2 year stint on the whp and get sanctioned for not turning up for mandatory work activity you will still have to attend and if you get 3 of those in a row then 3 year sanction.

        and now you have to pay back hardship loans it would be a 6 year sanction.

        the provider will still be fully paid either way so sign it at your own risk because once you do it then becomes mandatory!

        every single provider i have been sent to the first thing they do is get there contracts signed to secure there funding it is not about helping you in to employment it is using you as a profit unit/slave.

        superted

        March 27, 2019 at 10:02 pm

      • Too true, ted. It is ALWAYS the VERY FIRST thing these bastards do: “OK, just before we start we need to get some paperwork out of the way. I just need a quick signature, there, there and there 🙂 ” Then they are straight on their lap-top to order up a new set of alloy rims for their brand new Beemer or Range Rover with the cash they have just trousered from the ESF, SFA…. 😀 These provider don’t give a shit about their victims, never have, never will.

        Fuck the Providers

        March 27, 2019 at 10:21 pm

      • Quango

        A quango or QUANGO (less often QuANGO or QANGO) is a quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisation. The concept is most often applied in the United Kingdom and, to a lesser degree, Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United States, and other English-speaking countries. As its name suggests, a quango is a hybrid form of organization, with elements of both non-government organizations (NGOs) and public sector bodies. It is typically an organisation to which a government has devolved power, but which is still partly controlled and/or financed by government bodies.

        superted

        March 27, 2019 at 10:31 pm

  8. Universal Credit means an employment figure. Once everyone is transferred onto UC there will be no unemployment & the employment figures will show that. Everyone with suicide problems will have a job on UC & be part of the employed. Now they have a job suicide has now been cured like cancer & all other medical conditions. The healing masters at the DWP have solved medical conditions & unemployment in one helpful policy called UC. The fact that the DWP are breaking UK laws as well as Human Rights laws in failure of Care Of Duty by their own policy means the DWP have written their on confession of guilt.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 26, 2019 at 9:52 am

    • jj I’m not on whp I just have to go to the pimps once a week for job search.

      I made a complaint in writing a few weeks ago about being blackmailed & threatened into signing the pimps paperwork, but have heard nothing yet, I don’t expect to either.

      Violet

      March 26, 2019 at 5:37 pm

      • your going to have to stand ur ground if they do try to put you on the whp tho id not worry what it says on the cc as it is not a legal contract.

        the only thing they can enforce is a ase doubt or failed to attend providers office via letter or jsd letter.

        you can still refuse to sign there contracts they cant keep changing the cc and shutting ur claim down and it going to a dm.

        superted

        March 26, 2019 at 6:09 pm

      • When you put in a complaint, I believe they give themselves either 14 or 21 days to respond.

        jj joop

        March 26, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    • Universal Credit Chief Criticised For Failing To Know How Many Claimants Hit With Sanctions

      The answer’s plain and simple the Conservaties simply don’t care.

      https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/universal-credit-chief-criticised-for-failing-to-know-how-many-claimants-hit-with-sanctions_uk_5c9b5591e4b072a7f6022022?

      ken

      March 27, 2019 at 2:11 pm

  9. I am really worried the way things are going (and moving far too fast in my opinion) are that we will end up a cashless society altogether in the not so distant future. 😦 I don`t like it one bit. I`m fine with people using their credit/debit cards to pay for things and it will be the future, no doubt, but not being able to deal in cash anymore would mean we would never be able to withdraw money from a cash machine (anything we earn or get in benefits would automatically be held by banks) so we would never SEE the colour of money again. Just our little plastic cards. I can also see all our purchasing data, what we spend every penny on being shared with the DWP, Google and Facebook. What a treasure trove and how valuable this information would be to advertisers and those who seek to control and micro-manage us. And what about those on benefits that allow them to save money. What will happen when they go over £6,000? It is not like they will be able to take it out in cash and keep it under the bed? The cashless society might seems cool to some hippy dudes over in Silicon Valley but for us living in the real world it is a massive trap full of unintended consequences.

    Comply or Die

    March 26, 2019 at 10:05 am

    • Yeah, say you are earning a ‘bit on the side’, how do you withdraw your dole money? Spend it on something you neither want or need? And what happens when we get to the stage when the dole office can see exactly what you are spending your money on? People use chip and pin and especially those contact cards need their head examined. And some bank cards use your fingerprint to ID you. Not long before we have an implanted chip. The tech is already out there. Just got to move the flock along.

      Dodgy

      March 26, 2019 at 10:14 am

      • You won’t be able to work ‘cash in hand’ in a cashless society 😉

        Use It or Lose It

        March 26, 2019 at 10:20 am

    • Yeah, say you are earning a ‘bit on the side’, how do you withdraw your dole money? Spend it on something you neither want or need? And what happens when we get to the stage when the dole office can see exactly what you are spending your money on? People use chip and pin and especially those contact cards need their head examined. And some bank cards use your fingerprint to ID you. Not long before we have an implanted chip. The tech is already out there. Just got to move the flock along. …

      Dodgy

      March 26, 2019 at 10:14 am

    • The cashless society won’t happen during anybody alive on earth now’s lifetime. The Bank of England are spending billions, as I type these words, getting the new polymer £20 notes ready to introduce in 2020. Coins and bank notes are going to be around for many decades, even hundreds, of years to come.

      Messire Joyboy of Old Camden Town

      March 26, 2019 at 12:18 pm

      • Average council tax bill to rise £78 next month in ‘slap in the face’ for families

        Council tax is set to rise next month along with everything else – from utilities, to energy, prescriptions and car tax.

        And new figures show it’s set to jump by an average of 4.7% – marking the second biggest increase in a decade.

        https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/average-council-tax-bill-rise-14193704

        Work better pay!

        ken

        March 27, 2019 at 2:13 pm

    • So why haven’t I heard anything yet jj.

      Violet

      March 26, 2019 at 9:56 pm

      • imo they think now that you have given up thus prob filed it in the bin all you can do is keep moaning till something is done about it.

        it seems ur jcp is closing down complaints and problems and if the manager is also complicit in this then you need to go above there heads other wise you will get nowhere.

        i have tried in the past but like you never got nothing done until it was tribunal time and ever since have been left alone.

        there is also a lot more customer satisfaction survey boxes now everywhere and a tick box sheet on every desk they ask you to fill in now but dont even bother to ask me to fill one in pmsl let alone mention a provider course.

        i bet they just throw them all in the bin anyway nothing changes unless you do something about it and hold them to account for there actions.

        superted

        March 26, 2019 at 10:14 pm

      • I shall look for ours, I haven’t noticed it!

        Andrew Coates

        March 27, 2019 at 12:59 pm

      • Violet

        Who did you complain to exactly and how? Was it email, phone or letter, etc.? Did you receive a written acknowledgement?

        jj joop

        March 27, 2019 at 1:41 pm

  10. Reblogged this on michaelsnaith.

    snaithmagmailcom

    March 26, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    • I wrote to the Wolverhampton complaints centre that ted put up for me, that was a few weeks ago, bastards didn’t reply my guess is they probably binned it.

      Violet

      March 27, 2019 at 2:31 pm

  11. Andrew Coates

    March 27, 2019 at 1:07 pm

  12. it seems ur jcp is closing down complaints.

    They’ve been doing that for a long time,you need to contact your MP and get them to look into the matter.

    The Conservatives have bitten off more then they can chew this time.Its not simply dividing one section of the workforce or dividing those on benefits they’ve divided half the country this time over Brexit,if this goes bad there could be a breakdown.

    ken

    March 27, 2019 at 2:01 pm

  13. The devastating impact of Universal Credit on Oldham

    ‘Money has been taken out of the pockets of the poorest residents’

    A welfare update presented to the latest full council meeting says it has had an overwhelmingly negative effect on residents.

    The report is damning about the effects of sanctions, stating the implementation and threat of penalties ‘did more harm than good’ in terms of getting people back into work.

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/devastating-impact-universal-credit-oldham-16032734

    ken

    March 27, 2019 at 2:05 pm

  14. @superted

    Will all due respect Superted, if someone is claiming JSA or even more so Universal Credit, and they are directed by their Work Coach to take part in a compulsory, workfare scheme or course. And then do not undertake this activity, they will be sanctioned. It’s all very well not signing the forms, and even in one case I knew of, refusing to speak to the workfare provider’s own staff. These are technical evasions which will not normally avoid a sanction. A claimant making a direct refusal of suitable training, will have broken the Work Preparation requirement in the Claimant Commitment, which they have signed.

    Jeff Smith

    March 27, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    • DSC_0693_01

      DSC_0008

      on my cc it says 35hr job search but i dont do it because it is not the law and the cc is not a legal contract, what is on it is expectations however grate they are.

      and as you can see i won on both counts and i have been doing it since b4 the first wp that i also never attended bar the day i was sent for induction.

      so yes they might try a sanction but if it goes to tribunal the dwp will loose at the end of the day.

      superted

      March 27, 2019 at 6:25 pm

      • The JSAg is not a contract and it is not binding on the claimant or DWP – there is no penalty to the claimant if they fail to abide by it. However, the contents of the agreement and whether the claimant has adhered to it are important evidence that a claimant has been actively seeking employment. A claimant will be disentitled from receiving JSA if they are found not to have been actively seeking employment (section 1 JSA 1995).

        Click to access foi-712-14.pdf

        People have been sanctioned for not following it to the letter.

        doug@dwp.gsi.gov.uk

        March 28, 2019 at 8:03 am

      • it is why the only sanction doubts they can enforce buy law is ase doubts for not looking for work anything else on a cc is a expectation.

        the dwp have tried to enforce the 35hr job search under uc and they lost at the upper tribunal as it turns out you only need to take 3 steps per week to look and apply for work.

        yet they give this crap to ppl.
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        superted

        March 28, 2019 at 1:49 pm

  15. and dont forget if you do sign that provider contract they will have control over you they will not give a dam if you turn up 10 mins late and recommend a sanction doubt and as you signed a legal contract with the provider ur stuffed.

    so if you are on a 2 year stint on the whp and get sanctioned for not turning up for mandatory work activity you will still have to attend and if you get 3 of those in a row then 3 year sanction.

    and now you have to pay back hardship loans it would be a 6 year sanction.

    the provider will still be fully paid either way so sign it at your own risk because once you do it then becomes mandatory!

    every single provider i have been sent to the first thing they do is get there contracts signed to secure there funding it is not about helping you in to employment it is using you as a profit unit/slave.

    superted

    March 27, 2019 at 10:00 pm

  16. The DWP when they don’t get their way they send the police round saying you are suicidal. How does that help getting a job being called suicidal & hurry up about it so the DWP can get paid. I have first hand knowledge of the DWP suicide policy marked down in society as suicidal. That then leads me to Tory Genocide & State Sponsored Murder which the Tory party are guilty off proving the results by the UN Human Rights investigated of Criminal Act on behave of the Tory Policy. No more will the Tories blame ATOS, Maximus, Capita, Serco for the Tories failure of Duty Of Care & Human Rights. The responsibility lies with the Tory Government of State Sponsored Murders not Corporate Manslaughter Scapegoats. Yet again I have cost the Tory Lawyers £50,000 in speaking truths & facts.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    March 27, 2019 at 11:22 pm


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