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Amber Rudd to Make Universal Credit, ” more compassionate and individual”.

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The Pantomime Season has not ended.

Benefits freeze likely to end in 2020, says Amber Rudd

Guardian.

Sky reports:

Tory welfare policy estimated to have cost poor working families hundreds of pounds

Further announcements expected during Ms Rudd’s first major speech as work and pensions secretary on Friday will include:

  • Steps to make weekly and fortnightly payments more accessible
  •  A new online system for private landlords to get rents paid directly to them
  •  Confirmation that the managed migration of claimants from legacy benefits to Universal Credit will be initially limited to a test group of 10,000 people

When asked about measures she hopes to bring forward in the future, Ms Rudd gave the clearest indication yet that the four-year benefit freeze, which has been in place since 2015, will not be renewed when it comes to an end next year.

“It was the right policy at the time, it’s got one more year to run, I look forward to it coming off,” she said, adding: “I do not expect that to be renewed at all.”

Ms Rudd’s hopes of one day leading her party were seen to have been dented when she was forced to resign as home secretary last year during the Windrush scandal.

More via Press Association.

Reforms will make Universal Credit more compassionate and individual – Rudd

The Work and Pensions Secretary also indicated that she expects the longstanding benefits freeze to end in 2020.

Amber Rudd has announced a set of reforms to the Government’s new Universal Credit, saying that the system she inherited was not as “effective” or “compassionate” as she wanted.

The Work and Pensions Secretary confirmed that she was delaying asking Parliament for permission to move three million people on to UC until next year, after a pilot of the transfer from existing benefits has been completed.

And she announced that controversial plans to apply a two-child benefit cap retrospectively to new Universal Credit (UC) claimants are to be scrapped, helping around 15,000 families.

Ms Rudd also signalled that an end is in sight to the longstanding benefit freeze introduced by former chancellor George Osborne in 2016, telling Sky News she did not expect it to be renewed in 2020.

She said it was not “reasonable” to impose the two-child cap – intended to force claimants to make decisions on whether they can afford a third child in the same way as those in work – on families which already have more than two offspring.

Given the comments on this Blog Dame Rudd has a long way to go before she changes the hated Universal Credit system.

Written by Andrew Coates

January 11, 2019 at 12:24 pm

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  1. What’s she up to, pm’S job

    enigma

    January 11, 2019 at 12:59 pm

  2. So are they trying to kill claimants off in installments now instead of a mass cull.

    Tigerlily

    January 11, 2019 at 4:50 pm

    • Brilliant way to describe the planned super slow roll out.

      just looking at the initial 1945-8 welfare state plan
      – pre billion pound computer systems,
      and it appears each part went nationwide at the same time,

      Z plan

      January 12, 2019 at 12:31 am

  3. Admitting that there are things wrong with UC is the biggest step. This is only the beginning. We all know that UC is riddled with faults and it will either evolve into something much more just and benign or like the dinosaurs it will become extinct, which I think is probably the most likely outcome as far as UC is concerned.

    Hammer on the Mountain

    January 11, 2019 at 5:16 pm

  4. Damn this new court ruling is going to hurt UC as its about all workers, not just mums.

    With RTI being a fact already in operation at HMRC, there is absolutely no reason for DWP to work in arrears through fixed periods. This is without doubt the most painful blow to DWP as they are just not setup to deal with working in real time which is what they are going to have to to issue correct benefits to workers on time, every time and considering they all get paid on various dates is going to be most amusing.
    If they dont rebuild a new payment system, this will see them having to make 2nd,3rd and 4th payments meaning that’s another administrative saving down the toilet in staffing,time and cost.

    Now in the world of work if an employer pays you wrongly or not at all, an employee can put it in writing officially demanding remuneration and the employer has to pay the amount/s within 24/48 hrs or accept liability for further costs if pursued in a court of law. So considering DWP is like the world of work, i wonder if they will stick to this rule or stop saying its like work altogether.

    I just love how everything this government has said about the reform and UC has turned to ashes. Its a fact, your no better off in work and all UC is good for is making a person poorer than before claiming it.

    doug

    January 11, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    • ”or stop saying its like work altogether.”
      well they managed to wean themselves off forever telling us it’s the new simplified system,,,

      Z plan

      January 12, 2019 at 12:36 am

  5. When are the idiots going to realize that they created the system where the money flows UPWARDS, so making the poorest even poorer just makes everybody poorer.
    It’s why we’ve got the worst retail sales figures since 2008, yet another tory record to add to their economic “miracles”.

    The Universal Chaos punishment system will have to scrapped sooner or later.

    Scrap It

    January 11, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    • Must be why the Ferrero Rocher chocolates aren’t shifting 😉 With a best before in a couple of months they may end up getting yellow-labelled to a few pence 😀

      Savvy Shopper

      January 11, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    • It could be a Marxist tactic to “smash capitalism”. What what would happen if we stopped spending and stopped having kids like? The wheels would fall right off the wagon lol 😀

      Wagon Wheel

      January 11, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    • Not entirely true about everyone getting poorer, the drip up wealth effect, does a good job of stealing crumbs from the poor to bake the very rich even bigger cakes,

      Z plan

      January 12, 2019 at 12:42 am

  6. Anyone know any good forums for asking questions about unemployment related issues?
    I like it here but it seems more news comments orientated
    Saw one called Welfare Central Forum, but it appears totally closed to new members, lots of the site is hidden to non members too,,
    So not very helpful for our rights movement.
    Maybe their software is bust or something ,can’t believe they’d be so clicky on purpose.

    Z plan

    January 12, 2019 at 12:56 am

    • Yeah, they even have this hidden/missing/deleted thread. Only visible through the ‘backdoor’ 😀 Hi Paul
      UB 40 😀

      “Why has no one joined the forum since Aug 2018?

      Of late I am getting emails asking for help, after claimants have tried to join this form but have been unable to, despite many tries over many months?

      The last member joined August 2018.”

      If you follow this link: http://welfarecentral.org/index.php/forum-home/benefits-survival/2466-why-has-no-one-joined-the-forum-since-aug-2018#12856

      you will see this

      Forum
      WELCOME
      Benefits Survival
      Why has no one joined the forum since Aug 2018?
      Access Denied

      You do not have permissions to access this page.

      And this is out in the open

      “Paul UB-40

      Just to Remind Everyone, Dont Forget this Issue; Things are looking more and more uncertain by the day. :ohmy: 😦
      Also think about Water Sterilisation, If the Taps run Dry, one may have to resort to Natural Resources, and with High levels of Pollution in the UK all Natural water should be viewed as “Suspect” so Be Prepared.”

      Yeah, don’t forget to stock up on water purification tablets for the coming post-Brexit Armageddon 😀

      Zombie Plan

      January 12, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      • I tried to join too, just to help answer correctly someone’s questions about getting moved on to UC ,
        The members there were trying to answer, but seemed to be still on the legacy benefits themselves.
        But no go…

        Thought Criminal

        January 12, 2019 at 10:37 pm

      • Scrap It

        January 13, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    • There is a FB page, but it is studiously ‘non-political’.

      Andrew Coates

      January 13, 2019 at 12:57 pm

  7. HOW THE TORY GOVERNMENT USED A GERMAN DOCTRINE TO DEVELOP UNIVERSAL CREDIT… … .

    Aktion T4, The Nazi Program That Slaughtered 300,000 Disabled People

    . A new bureaucracy, headed by physicians, was established with a mandate to kill anyone deemed to have a “life unworthy of living.” Some physicians active in the study of eugenics, who saw Nazism as “applied biology,” enthusiastically endorsed this program. However, the criteria for inclusion in this program were not exclusively genetic, nor were they necessarily based on infirmity. An important criterion was economic. Nazi officials assigned people to this program largely based on their economic productivity. The Nazis referred to the program’s victims as “burdensome lives” and “useless eaters.”

    Sarah7

    January 12, 2019 at 11:57 am

  8. A cannae work computers like. A worked with me hands all ma life like. Is it ok to write out ma cv with with paper and pen like? Am struggling with the universal credit like.

    I, Daniel Blake

    January 13, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    • How do I know that you’re telling the truth, Mr Blake? Can you prove it? Have you got a signed and dated affidavit from a person of good character stating this in writing? Or a video made by a respectable person on a mobile phone illustrating your difficulties?

      Work Coach

      January 14, 2019 at 3:14 pm

  9. Amber Rudd will have her work cut out to make Universal Credit more compassionate. And how ? By stopping the sanctions ?

    Harry

    January 13, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    • Maybe they going to pay for the funerals of the peoples they have killed.

      Thought Criminal

      January 13, 2019 at 9:20 pm

  10. Amber Rudd has resigned as DWP Minister & will be wanting the Tory Party leader job. So all the crap about UC from Amber Rudd will not happen.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 14, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    • That’s news! Who told you that, Stepping? Amber Rudd?

      Dingo

      January 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm

  11. Surely Universal Credit has got such a bad reputation now having caused so much misery, suffering and distress as to be irredeemable? What can possibly be done to it now to redeem it and convince people that it really is better than the old system and really is helping more people out of poverty, when since its conception the opposite has always been true.

    Surely UC is so soiled, loathed and hated now that it must be destined for the scrap heap?

    All of the media and every single commentator has turned against it.

    It’s only a matter of time before UC gets consigned to the scrapheap I reckon.

    Hammer on the Mountain

    January 14, 2019 at 3:20 pm

  12. Even crypto-Tory and Kenneth Williams lookie-likey Frank Field gets it right sometimes:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8188633/universal-credit-frank-field-amber-rudd-incompetence/

    Hammer on the Mountain

    January 14, 2019 at 3:23 pm

  13. ot was told from today everyone has to now bring id or they wont be able to sign on at my jcp even on jsa no id no sign lol.

    superted

    January 14, 2019 at 3:42 pm

  14. Pension Credit: Tories ‘sneak out’ change that could cost couples £7,000 a year

    The change to Pension Credit is set to take effect on May 15 – and the date was announced at 7.20pm on the eve of the Brexit vote

    The changes from the Department of Work and Pensions will cut the numbers of people who are eligible for pension credit, which tops up the income of the poorest pensioners.

    Couples where one is over the state pension age, currently 65 for both men and women, and one is not, will no longer get the benefit.

    It will take effect from May 15 when relevant new claims are opened nationwide for six-in-one benefit Universal Credit.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/pension-credit-tories-sneak-out-13857850

    enigma

    January 15, 2019 at 1:22 pm

  15. Brexit – Are YOU Ready?

    Debate going on in Parliament Now; Vote Due Tonight, Been watching it on and off today, Looking like a No Deal Brexit.
    What Then; Food Shortages within the Next few days, This time Next week Supermarket shelves could be Stripped bare,
    Massive run on Foodbanks, who would also quickly Run out and have Nothing to offer for maybe some weeks.
    BIG Price Increases especially on Fresh Fruit & Vegetables,
    Forecast in Interest Rates going Sharply Up, Decreasing the value of our Benefits,
    And last The Good News, 🙂 The Housing Market Crashing, Giving Home owners what they Deserve. B)
    Hope you all have been stockpiling Food, Tomorrow could be to Late.

    Paranoid Pauline

    January 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    • Seriously I am, as much as I can afford to do so, trying to build up a buffer of tinned and dry food to fill gaps in supply if we leave the EU with no deal. If everything goes belly up at the ports as far as custom checks go haulage could be really seriously affected and shops and supermarkets run out of food, not because it isn’t available, but because it can’t be distributed quickly enough in a “just in time” manner. To be honest nobody, least of all the government, seems to have any idea as per what is coming or what the future holds.

      Best advice: If you’re rich convert sterling assets into gold; if you’re poor bend over and take it unlubricated.

      Hammer on the Mountain

      January 16, 2019 at 2:55 pm

  16. Andrew Coates

    January 16, 2019 at 2:17 pm

  17. Why universal credit is like the Victorian workhouse

    Policy coheres quite closely to that of amendments to the poor law in 1834, says history professor

    The overall universal credit policy coheres quite closely to that of amendments to the poor law in 1834, which kickstarted a large programme to build workhouses. The two policies, nearly 200 years apart, were prompted by some of the same economic concerns.

    https://www.theweek.co.uk/98995/why-universal-credit-is-like-the-victorian-workhouse

    ken

    January 16, 2019 at 4:10 pm

    • How so as government past and present (ie cameron) shut down and sold off the remploy factories.
      Those who supported the min wage act only have themselves to blame for this as it empowered employers to pay wages at a level they can snatch back because they control pricing of products and services. This also empowered government to sling a claimant into any job so well done for sowing the seed of all our demise.

      It may have escaped your notice but we live in a capitalistic society so a socialistic wage structure (min wage or NLW) isn’t going to work well now is it.

      Wages left non descriptive would have left a lot of employers not being able to fill low level employment, the type that actually creates the wealth. DWP would have never been able to say any job as we all know if they did, the welfare state would be effectively paying to paper over the cracks of employers desire to pay a proper wage. The employee taxpayers who pay the lion share of tax in this country wouldn’t wear that. Furthermore if they didn’t, they couldn’t chuck crap jobs at you they could say was enough to live off.

      Critical thinking.

      Not having the min wage/NLW would have put employers in a bad place as not only would they have to pay more, they would also know putting up prices would put them back to square one of no one wanting to work for them. Furthermore it also would highlight the desire of most employers to hire people coming from abroad who they routinely manipulate due to their ignorance and desperation into doing twice as much work for the same wage British people work for.

      Have you noticed how warehouse employers are now asking for potential applicants to have a fork lift license lately and how the state is now paying for providers to put claimants and school leavers through the license they have now tagged onto a warehouse level 2 qualification ?
      Do you get as taxpayers that we are paying for businesses who themselves should be paying for this out of their own pocket. Have you caught on yet apprenticeships which are state funded basically through incredibly poor wage rates (£3. something an hour) is effectively the apprentice paying for their own training if an adult (paid in one year), worse still if your young as your pimped out for further years.

      Notice how one minute businesses are saying its language, math, how you speak yet now its the wrong skills ?

      So its not alike, its worse than you can imagine, has been for ages (including under new labour) and all this welfare reform represents is a neat tying of the bow that is your fate that you and public blindly walked into.

      doug

      January 17, 2019 at 12:16 pm

      • Back in the day the jobcentre like would advertise security guard jobs and the like for 10p an hour like. Back then you would just laugh in their face and throw the job back with “A cannae feed a hamster on that money, never mind a wife and four bairns like.” Nowadays they just come out with “National Minimum Wage 😀 No knock out factor there 😀 ” What can you do like?

        Daniel Blake

        January 17, 2019 at 12:35 pm

  18. Good article Ken it describes universal chaos to a tee!

    Violet

    January 16, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    • Even back then the unemployed were deemed as skivers and scroungers… Nothing has changed then!

      Tigerlily

      January 16, 2019 at 6:50 pm

  19. Whats the point of a 3 year sanction and why isn’t most media and politicians challenging it ?

    If jobs were fruit from a free tree you could just walk upto and pluck we wouldn’t be having this conversation but the stark reality is there not and we must.
    Still to this date government has not once detailed how they justify three years, many because they cant, hell they cant even justify 1 year. Can government say a person is guaranteed to be hired by an employer or given work by an agency, of course they cant so it begs the question why are so many who could make this a thing so tight lipped.

    UC and i laugh when i say it works as we all know it most certainly does not, is designed around the theme of assisting workers on poor wages in any ever increasing environment of insecure and changing employment they knew as far back as the 90s (labour was complicit in this). For pensioners, the permanently disabled and ill who pass an assessment, nothings changed. Of a pool of 20 million claimants its about 4.96 million people (24.8%) of which only some 880’000 are actually fully unemployed (4.4% of total claimants, 17.7% of the 24.8%).
    So to sum up 75.2% of the total welfare bill in terms of cost isn’t effected/changed and is getting more expensive year on year.

    What the reform and UC does is challenge not unemployment but rather underemployment. Now a sanction unlike before does not end when a person signs off, it carries over unless a sanctioned person is in employment for a min of 6 months (according to sources within DWP).
    Did you know a claimant only getting a benefit like housing but still under conditionality can have that housing benefit reduced to the amount that person would have got if claimant JSA or income tax credit (which ever the person is close to) ?
    So what happens as is often the case for longterm JSA and or ESA in the support group claimants (who get sanctioned more than any of groups) when that person cant get a job because an employer wont hire them for one reason or another ?

    Does the words foodbank for a limited time, soup kitchens, homelessness, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, criminal record, hospital, permanent health issues land in there anywhere and how often ?

    If UC did work and all workers were happy with what they made and got, what would this tell us about what sanctioning could do longterm to a persons life chances ?

    Would it be fair to say sanctioning can enable anyone or more of those symptoms listed ?

    Tell me, how often and how many people do you know living under those fallout conditions listed are in employment despite of with the employers complete approval/knowledge,support of ?

    Ring up an employer of a business, ask them how many people on their books are homeless, how many with a criminal record for theft,violence,fraud, sexual acts. How many are non recovering addicts, go routinely to foodbanks and or soup kitchens. Percentage wise of total employees how many have permanent disabilities, illnesses.
    See what they say if they chose to say anything.

    doug

    January 17, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    • Universal credit, sanctions, the ‘gig economy’, insecure work, ‘zero hours contracts’ lead to a lack of autonomy, control and security. A lack of autonomy, control and security lead to stress and anxiety Stress and anxiety lead to an increase in C-reactive protein (CRP), CRP leads to heart disease. Heart disease leads to an early death. Universal credit, sanctions, the ‘gig economy’, insecure work, ‘zero hours contracts’ lead to a an early death.

      The same can be said for your housing (or lack of) situation.

      Levels of inflammation and stress may be linked to the housing type and tenure people are living in according to a new study. The link between damp and cold indoor temperature – one of the “hard” physical characteristics that have a direct impact on health – is well known. But attention is now being paid to the potential role of “soft” factors, such as housing affordability.

      The researchers wanted to look at a more objective and reproducible measure of health, so they opted for C-reactive protein (CRP), a chemical in the body that is associated with stress and inflammation. They drew on data from the UK Household Longitudinal Study (UKHLS), an annual survey covering around 40,000 households in the UK.

      The data included extensive information from individuals and households, including housing tenure and type. Blood samples were collected around five months after the main survey interview for 13,107 adults to assess CRP levels.

      The final analysis was restricted to 9,593 participants with over 800 from Scotland to include those aged over 21 – to capture people less likely to still be in education and living with their parents – and those with CRP levels below 10 mg/l, as levels this high are indicative of recent infection.Around one in five (just over 22 per cent) of participants had a raised CRP level above 3 mg/l – a threshold associated with cardiovascular disease.

      After taking account of potentially influential factors, certain housing types and tenure were associated with raised CRP, the findings showed. Renters in the private sector had significantly higher CRP levels than home owners with a mortgage. And those living in semi-detached and terraced houses and flats had higher CRP than those living in detached properties.

      Surprisingly, those with below average incomes who spent more than a third of it on housing had lower CRP. But this might be because higher proportional expenditure on housing secures better quality accommodation, the health benefits of which might outweigh any financial strain, suggest the researchers.

      The researchers from the Economic and Social Research Institute said: “The significant findings for housing type and tenure point to an influence of autonomy and control. Where control is low, [the sense of] security is reduced, which may affect health through chronic stress responses.

      Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/health/levels-of-stress-linked-to-the-type-of-housing-accommodation-in-uk-1-4856522

      Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/health/levels-of-stress-linked-to-the-type-of-housing-accommodation-in-uk-1-4856522

      PREPARE FOR AN EARLY GRAVE!!

      The Undertaker

      January 17, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    • After the 3 years sanction you’ll be ideally ‘job ready’. LOL
      In reallity you’ll be unemployable, homeless or dead.

      A Stupid Tory

      January 18, 2019 at 1:46 pm

  20. Where control is low (universal credit), [the sense of] security is reduced, which may affect health through chronic stress responses.

    The Undertaker

    January 17, 2019 at 1:46 pm

  21. I got a message today from jcp manager he’s calling me tomorrow morning about the complaint I made about work “coach” threatening & bullying me ☺️ into signing the welfare to work parasites pw.

    Violet

    January 17, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    • wonder what bs that they will come out with as they dont want it in writing lol.

      superted

      January 17, 2019 at 6:41 pm

      • The tosser will probably be all nicey picey and try to spin it so that you feel as though you’re in the wrong and sign pov pimps paperwork, you are not in the wrong Violet… stick to your guns.

        Tigerlily

        January 17, 2019 at 6:56 pm

      • Tigerlily

        Yeah. That sounds about right.

        jj joop

        January 17, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    • Violet

      Just tell whoever calls that you are recording the conversation in full accordance with the GDPR, that some information while covered under exemption, some required explicit consent. Next say do you consent. (Actually do record it).
      Superted is right, it leaves no evidence trail if they call you.

      They cannot say you cant do this, its not illegal and is in accordance with the GDPR.

      doug

      January 17, 2019 at 10:51 pm

      • They cannot say you cant do this, its not illegal and is in accordance with the GDPR.

        thus why they will just slam the phone down on you, interview terminated lol, these ppl like to dish it out yet when you can come back at them they soon use the gdpr ect to go hide behind as to not want there out right miss information and lies aired in public or recorded in any way to hold them accountable for there actions.

        superted

        January 17, 2019 at 11:14 pm

      • Superted

        The joke is they are public servants and as such must introduce themselves as a matter of record. Furthermore as the data subject to the nature of the call, its is you who controls the processing, not them as there is no interaction or crosstalk regarding significant others besides you and the DWP.

        As any judge will tell them, they have no rights to privacy while in the course of doing business in business time and must make avail a identifying mark so a person can if required upon state to whom they spoke to. Saying DWP is not proof of that.
        They may try the security angle but again would at a later date if challenged have to offer up burden of proof otherwise its fraudulent not to mention defamation.

        doug

        January 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm

  22. He said in the voicemail I would get a call at 9.am but have to be at poverty pimps at 9.am. Coincidence? I wonder if I’m being set up 😉

    Violet

    January 17, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    • pmsl well if you have a letter that says you must attend pimps office then you should go and do the same as b4 and sign nothing.

      i got a funny feeling they wont bother to ring you 😉

      superted

      January 17, 2019 at 7:07 pm

  23. I also got a message on my journal today stating I should accept my new cc.

    It should have been accepted yesterday ooooopppps 😉

    Violet

    January 17, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    • well thats there sanction plan fooked then lol 😉

      superted

      January 17, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    • Violet

      They’re just blowing smoke up your arse. If they were going to sanction you, it would have happened by now. Just decline to sign anything at the providers but agree to participate and turn up for any appointments!

      jj joop

      January 17, 2019 at 8:05 pm

      • Will do.

        Violet

        January 17, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    • Violet

      Are you using the journal to provide evidence of your job search?

      jj joop

      January 17, 2019 at 8:10 pm

      • I am at the moment

        Violet

        January 17, 2019 at 8:11 pm

      • bad idea id stop that asap and provide either screen shots of the job apps on ur phone or printouts as you can provide this anyway you like.

        superted

        January 17, 2019 at 8:14 pm

      • Also only let them view them in person. Never let them keep them,make copies on or in person.

        doug

        January 17, 2019 at 10:53 pm

    • The regulation only enforces the principle of a cc, not content later added that is not specifically named in the regulation as that requires explicit consent. Be careful if you use the digi signing pad as it copy and pastes your signature onto the CC.

      You have to understand consent must be freely given meaning it cannot be obtained by force.threat or deception. The DWP regulations cannot deviate from this.
      Its not an easy one to explain but basically the any job within reason, start within 48 hours, must look for work,etc (all in the regulation) you must agree to. All this how and what you search and do is NOT covered under the regulation.

      doug

      January 17, 2019 at 11:08 pm

      • doug

        Surely copying and pasting your signature onto an unseen, unknown to the claimant and ‘non-negotiated’ claimant commitment falls under ‘obtaining ‘consent’ by deception’?

        Franz Kafka

        January 18, 2019 at 8:16 am

      • That’s true. The DWP treat us as if we were bugs and beetles.

        Gregor Samsa

        January 18, 2019 at 12:24 pm

      • If you read the notice before you sign on the pad, you will see it states this.

        The ploy is sociably chat with claimant about way they may improve their chances. Then add it to CC without mentioning its not just a chat and low and behold bushwhack you the moment you sign.
        Your notice they only go get a copy after a person signs.

        Is it deceptive, hell yes but the thing is its difficult to prove if you never taped the conversation.

        doug

        January 18, 2019 at 1:39 pm

  24. National mentoring initiative to tackle employment inequality across UK

    Jobseekers across the UK are set to benefit from mentoring support designed to help them into work.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/national-mentoring-initiative-to-tackle-employment-inequality-across-uk

    jj joop

    January 17, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    • That’s a good idea Ted I will do screenshots in future they can take their journals & wipe their asses with them.

      Violet

      January 17, 2019 at 8:32 pm

      • they can look at my job search they sure as hell cant keep copy’s for them self i even blank out my email address as show them print outs of my email box.

        never used the journal but how far back can you go that you have provided work search proof for? like is it all kept or does it auto delete after so much time.

        superted

        January 17, 2019 at 8:38 pm

  25. I should accept my new cc.

    Should doesn’t mean that you have to,it undermines your legal protection signing it away rights.There has been mention of these conflicting appointments before on the Jobcentre Corrrupt series on Utube regarding the Work Programme.

    ken

    January 17, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiz7SBvhcLMuYaW3IJdwUjQ

      see what he did when he was ordered to attend the wp was to sign off and put in a rapid reclaim and i use to do this way b4 the wp came in but you end up loosing money as back then it was like a new claim and processed as such so resetting the time frame to get refers again to the wp and then do it again when the time come.

      what i did is point blank refused to sign the wp paperwork so they could not process my personnel data so there was no way of them making a profit from a job outcome or anything else.

      yet 15 years later it is the same old merry go round of do this or else lol 😉

      superted

      January 17, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    • The CC is supposed to be the result of negotiation not an order from on high.

      Hammer on the Mountain

      January 18, 2019 at 12:25 pm

  26. Violet

    How will you know if the jokecentre tosser is really the manager.. You won’t, it could be any fukker and also, if you do speak to it, be careful what you say as the call will probably be recorded… You can’t trust those sh*tbags!

    Tigerlily

    January 17, 2019 at 10:13 pm


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