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Homeless Rise not due to Welfare Cuts or Tory Government – George Osborne and James Brokenshire

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Everybody knows about the rise in the numbers of the homeless.

You only have to walk a  couple of minutes from Ipswich Central Library to come across at least one person living on the streets.

|It’s not as if they are just sitting there.

If you gave money to every rough sleeper who asked you for some you’d be broke in a day.

Each town and city in the country is full of people living in doorways – and that’s just those you see.

There’s this, which does great work round here:

I imagine the emergency Christmas shelters also  give some people a place, but they don’t seem to have much visible effect here.

Could these people possibly get help through Universal Credit, the only kind of welfare payment (which includes local housing benefit)  going these days?

You’re having a laugh!

It is deeply distressing.

To say the least.

So, it’s no surprise that there’s some kind of Christmas pass the poisoned parcel when it comes to accounting for this:

Nearly 600 homeless people died last year in England and Wales, other official figures showed this week, a 24 per cent increase over the past five years.

There is Mr Austerity.

He’s just left some Seasons Greetings:

George Osborne has denied that “a lack of money” following his harsh austerity programme was the cause of Britain’s homelessness crisis.

reports the Independent.

The former Conservative chancellor dismissed growing warnings that the severe spending cuts he introduced were behind the explosion in rough sleeping, saying: “No, I entirely reject that.”

“It’s not a lack of money. That’s not a consequence of austerity – that’s just a consequence of bad policy,” Mr Osborne insisted.

The denial came despite the revelation that child homelessness is at a 12-year high, with 123,600 minors in temporary accommodation in England – a 70 per cent rise since the Conservatives came into power.

A few days ago it was this chap (no I hadn’t heard his name before either).

James Brokenshire blames factors such as family breakdown and drug use

Rising rough sleeping in Britain is not the result of government policy but is being driven by factors including the spread of psychoactive drugs such as spice, growth in non-UK nationals on the streets and family breakdown, the housing secretary, James Brokenshire, has claimed.

The number of people sleeping rough has more than doubled since 2010 to 4,751 according to the government’s own figures. The homelessness charity Crisis believes that this is a fivefold underestimate and that 24,000 people will be sleep on the streets, in cars and in tents. Sofa-surfers make up a further 68,000, according to Crisis.

ut Brokenshire insisted the growing problem is not a political failure, even though charities which run hostels and advice lines believe that caps on housing benefit and welfare sanctions introduced as part of austerity policies have been key factors driving rises in homelessness every year since the Conservatives took office in 2010.

“I don’t see it in those terms,” Brokenshire said. “I see it as a combination of concerning elements in terms of addiction, family breakdown issues. The thing that struck me over recent months in speaking to some of the LGBT charities in terms of young people, because of their sexuality, being thrown out of home.”

Well you Tories can piss off !



Written by Andrew Coates

December 22, 2018 at 4:13 pm

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  1. I was in Cardiff today for the first time in about 5 years and was shocked at the scale of homelessness in the city – virtually every doorway or odd corner has some poor devil camping there, tents in the main street, you name it. Never used to see that before the TORIES got back into power…


    December 22, 2018 at 10:07 pm

  2. Same where I live more homeless people in the city centre, and a few more outside the city centre


    December 23, 2018 at 8:37 am

    • virtually every doorway or odd corner has some poor devil camping there, tents in the main street,

      Its the same here,the high street at 9am people under blankets,sitting up outside doorways and walking around.


      December 23, 2018 at 2:59 pm

      • Same. I’m in Luton and was in town Friday. Never seen so many homeless. Running for my bus I saw about 6 men huddled together in a doorway. I have developed a rapport with one of them and he insisted on helping me to the bus with my bags. I have so much more respect for him than I do for this evil system. I hope he’s helped soon


        December 30, 2018 at 11:59 am

  3. “James Brokenshire blames factors such as family breakdown and drug use”

    I wonder what factors James Brokenshire thinks are driving massive increases in family breakdown and drug use leading to so much homelessness, destitution and death spilling in ever greater numbers out and onto the streets of the United Kingdom? Could the cuts, caps and freezes made to British social security, leaving vulnerable individuals stressed and struggling, possibly have something to do with it? The DWP have deferred the roll out of universal credit planning only to migrate 10,000 people from legacy benefit onto universal credit next year as an experiment to see what happens; but if the full roll out ever goes ahead and millions are moved onto the new system the sh1t will really hit the fan spraying the government in sticky human manure that won’t wash off.

    Too many people are going to be affected by the catastrophe for the government to get away with it.

    Hammer on the Mountain

    December 23, 2018 at 11:08 am

  4. Andrew Coates

    December 23, 2018 at 12:06 pm

  5. Homelessnes not as a result of our policies – utter crap

    There are many where I am too, where is there none?


    December 23, 2018 at 1:22 pm

  6. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating!.


    December 23, 2018 at 5:24 pm

  7. Monthly Payments are fraud. 12 x £100 = £1,120 or weekly 52 x £25 = £1,300 a difference of £180. The higher the amount the bigger the gap. No one else apart from the DWP work in monthly payments. So anything the DWP do is fraud.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 23, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    • Correction # Monthly Payments are fraud. 12 x £100 = £1,200 or weekly 52 x £25 = £1,300 a difference of £100.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      December 23, 2018 at 6:35 pm

  8. I think that freezing working-age benefits, which were already inadequate, for FOUR YEARS, while everything, especially housing costs, went up in price year on year might have made people who were depending on those benefits very significantly poorer. Osborne was a cynical and evil evil man who justified freezing benefits on grounds that wages weren’t going up: benefits had never previously been linked to wages or conflated with wages in such a manner before. When wages were going up healthily benefits only ever got uprated in line with the consumer price index in order to maintain their purchasing power at a minimal level; freezing working-age benefits meant that poverty in the UK had no bottom line, no level of real-terms purchasing power below which people were allowed to sink, and people living on benefits began to get noticeably poorer and poorer as inflation ate into the value of their entitlements and their disposable income bought less and less.

    Of course Osborne’s repeated and savage attacks on social security ARE the main drivers of poverty and homelessness in the UK, couple of course with universal credit which he also may even worse than it was intended to be by stripping billions from it’s intended budget.

    David Osborne

    December 23, 2018 at 9:01 pm

  9. Universal credit forcing families to wait months for help to pay childcare bills, MPs warn

    The flaw – requiring claimants to pay upfront, then claim back the cost – is leaving people with the stark choice to “turn down a job offer, or get themselves into debt”, their report says.

    Around 100,000 households, including the poorest, will also receive less for their childcare costs than under the system universal credit replaces, the Commons Work and Pensions Committee concludes.


    Regarding homelless.

    Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to repeal the 19th-century law which criminalises rough sleepers IF….



    December 24, 2018 at 11:36 am

  10. The Tories have just sanctioned Jesus. The whole of Bexit is about the UK getting out of the Human Rights Laws & setting up a UK Bill Of Rights to cover the of the Tories breaking every Human Rights Law. Guilty as charged. The only way the Tories can get out of it is a Brexit No Deal to stop the Tories being charged & arrested for Crimes Against Humanity. Sanctions are illegal until the Tories get their Bill Of Rights. So the Tories wake up now with Bombs on drones & the failure to act. Don’t give ideas to the Tory Terrorist that have killed off 120,000 people in the UK since 2010. State Sponsored Murders.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 25, 2018 at 4:16 pm

  11. Conservative austerity policies may have driven homelessness rise, housing secretary admits

    James Brokenshire says government must ask itself ‘some very hard questions’ about welfare cuts



    December 26, 2018 at 9:22 am

  12. School opens on Christmas Day for those without food.

    Kevin Courtney, joint general secretary of the National Education Union (NEU), said it highlighted a bigger problem of “a frightening level of deep-rooted poverty around the whole country.”

    Mr Courtney added:”For one of the richest countries in the world to have one 1 in 5 of its citizens working yet still living in poverty, for food banks to be commonplace, for schools to be stepping in and providing food parcels, clothes, shoes, sanitary products and dealing with many more day to issues that arise from families simply having no money, is shocking and unacceptable.



    December 26, 2018 at 9:41 am

  13. Universal Credit Stormont cake bill four times what was first reported

    Department for Communities bought staff 51 cakes and 1,720 cupcakes to celebrate the new benefit’s roll-out

    But now it has been divulged that the Department for Communities actually spent over £4,000 on cakes and cupcakes since it started rolling out UC in September 2017.



    December 28, 2018 at 7:39 pm

  14. Corbyn is obviously head and shoulders above in intellect than that scruffy feral creature Rees-Mogg. We need some CLASS as we have precious little of it in parliament. Corbyn has deep knowledge. I’m dead sure he would put this country straight again if he became PM.


    December 29, 2018 at 6:07 am

  15. Up to 5 weeks to wait for first uc, whilst the staff stuff their face with cake, do we find out what the wine and beer etc budget was for the staff


    December 29, 2018 at 8:53 am

  16. For those who haven’t seen it Ken Loach’s film I, Daniel Blake is being shown next week on Saturday, 5th January 2019 on BBC2 at 9.45 pm.

    Hammer on the Mountain

    December 29, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    • Thanks for that info. It will be interesting for many people who don’t yet know


      December 29, 2018 at 2:29 pm

  17. Confirmed. Spotted on our TV’s EPG thingy.

    Betty & Jim

    December 29, 2018 at 6:51 pm

  18. Can’t see Komrade Koates watching this or having watched this since he hates the director, Ken Loach with a passion. For reasons unknown of course 😉

    H Squires

    December 29, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    • Yeah well, maybe Loach nipped into Koates parking space, spilled Abbot Ale on his new cloth cap, stole his young immigrant wife or worse… 😉

      The Grudge

      December 29, 2018 at 7:03 pm

  19. Defo recommended especially if you haven’t already seen it 😉

    H Squires

    December 29, 2018 at 6:57 pm

  20. I, Daniel Blake reviewed by Mark Kermode

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    December 30, 2018 at 4:15 pm

    • It will be good to watch this again. Last time we watched this it had hard-coded Korean subtitles. It is not like we even speak Korean.

      Bernie & Millicent

      December 31, 2018 at 12:57 pm

  21. 250,000 disabled people told to fill in ‘senseless’ 45-page form to win back their benefits


    December 30, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    • The DWP have lost all the paperwork & need the information again. The DWP breaking the Data Protection Act & Care Of Duty again. If you do not return the form you will get fined & no ESA & treated like a criminal. DWP how many forms have you sent to dead people !!! Hush hush now DWP.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      December 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

  22. How does crowdfunding work with the joke centre like. Peeps are trousering thousands of nicker on sites like gofundme just by saying there uc hasn’t been paid.

    £7,730 raised of £100
    Stourbridge, West Midlands, United Kingdom
    Escape universal credit debt
    I have kindly been offered support via twitter to help get me out of Uni…
    Last donation 1h ago

    7, 730 bleeein’ nicker!


    December 31, 2018 at 12:53 pm

      • The strange thing is that people are still donating even though this has probably been an ‘error’ and the claimant has now received the ‘arrears’ and is now in receipt of her full entitlement but over £7,000 richer. Will she be ‘donating’ this to fellow universal credit claimants who are waiting to receive their payment?


        December 31, 2018 at 1:12 pm

      • “She’s now sitting at home with no telly” like she sold her telly ; as if ;


        December 31, 2018 at 1:16 pm

      • And also supposedly “worked all her life” (but they all say that 😉 and hasn’t saved one single penny 😉 Sure ; (again, they all say that ; )


        December 31, 2018 at 1:18 pm

      • And smart move too saying it was the ‘daughter’ 😉 “too proud” to go begging on gofundme 😉


        December 31, 2018 at 1:22 pm

  23. Why is the Local Housing Allowance never mentioned? This was brought in in 1996 by a LABOUR Government. LHA makes it impossible to rent privately on benefits without ‘topping up’ the rent from benefits meant for food and heat. LHA also limited under 25s to the ‘shared accommodation rate’. This was increased to 35 by a subsequent Tory administration. Individuals and families are really struggling because of the LHA. Yet, like ‘frozen’ benefits it is forgotten about. All the campaigning energy and focus is centred on non-issues such as ‘WASPI women’ (many of whom have private/second pensions and well-off partners), ‘rape clauses’; ‘cuts’ to the benefit payments of those whose benefits are more than ample; calls to tackle ‘pensioner poverty’ (the most well off group in society) ;not to mention calling for huge public sector pay increases.


    January 2, 2019 at 10:01 am

    • What is LHA?

      LHA was introduced in 2008 by the last Labour government to bring the amount being spent on housing benefit for those renting privately in line with the benefit for those renting social housing. Labour capped the LHA at half local market rents. If tenants’ rent was more than that, they would not be reimbursed for the rent over that 50%.

      In the coalition’s 2010 emergency budget, the terms were tightened:

      LHA was calculated using the lowest third of local market rents rather than the lowest half, or median rent, so less housing benefit was paid for the same accommodation.
      LHA calculations were capped at four bedrooms, rather than five, particularly affecting larger families.
      The age under which claimants are only entitled to the shared accommodation rate (for a room in a shared house rather than a one bed flat) was raised from 25 to 35 years.

      From 2011, tenants under 35 living alone were either only entitled to housing benefit for the cheaper shared room rate or had to move into shared accommodation, with their own bedroom, but shared kitchens and bathrooms. Larger families that previously qualified for the five bedroom rate were now entitled to less housing benefit, both in terms of the lower calculation, and the demise of the five bedroom rate.
      Who gets housing benefit and what does it cost?
      Read more

      A new LHA cap and stricter terms were announced by the then-chancellor George Osborne in his autumn statement in November 2015. Initially brought in for a nine-month transition period that applied only to new tenancies, the new LHA cap and stricter terms now apply to all private tenancies signed after 7 April 2008.



      January 2, 2019 at 10:06 am

    • LHA – One of the major contributors to the blight of homelessness. People are being thrown onto the streets simply because they cannot afford the rent. LHA – brought in by a LABOUR government. What say you, Jezza?

      Concrete Pillow

      January 2, 2019 at 10:14 am

    • LHA and Housing Benefit are both subsumed into Universal Credit and included as a monthly limp sum as part of Universal Credit’s monthly payments. Since rents have gone up in the private sector while working-age LHA and Housing Benefit have been frozen and not increased over the last three years, with at least one more year of freeze planned to continue until April 2020, people have been forced to make up rents out of already inadequate benefits only designed to pay for food, water and other consumables: the same thing is true about Council Tax contributions now charged to benefit claimants, by most cash strapped local authorities, at 25% upward.

      It really is like squeezing blood out of a stone with all of the bleeding done by the poor and vulnerable.

      The whole sorry rotten mess stinks on ice.

      And after Brexit things could get a whole lot worse.

      Hammer on the Mountain

      January 2, 2019 at 11:39 am

    • Using a one bedroom property as an example around these parts there are NO properties advertised at the LHA rate. There are only a few advertised at £100 extra a month. The vast majority start at £150 a month extra and upwards. You also have to find a landlord who accepts tenants on benefits or at least doesn’t ask for some sort of proof of employment etc. An extra £150+ a month is a big chunk out of JSA at a meagre £73.10 for a single person 25 and over. There are lot of people out there really struggling. But they are not vocal. The ones with the loudest voices are the greedy ones who already have more than enough for their needs.


      January 2, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    • You can find out your LHA rate here:



      January 2, 2019 at 3:07 pm

  24. Chris Grayling ran the DWP from 2010 – 2012 he is more useless than Iain Doppy Shit & that is saying something. So of course everything Chris Grayling is involved with turns to shit.

    The DWP class a month as 4 weeks which means there is 4 weeks missing in a year. In accounts that is called fraud.

    Chris Graying is one of those who will be charged for State Sponsored Murders hiding behind the useless Corporate Manslaughter charge.

    Since the Tories can cure Cancer but can not cure the Cancer that runs the Tories.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 2, 2019 at 1:27 pm

  25. Disabled man given just 1p Universal Credit to live on over Christmas

    Published on 2 Jan 2019

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 2, 2019 at 2:44 pm

    • Universal Credit is State Sponsored Murder. Tories you have loads of work to do defending Human Rights Breaches now the Tories are not in Government. Scared as a crab in a barrel to keep in power relying on the DUP which have now pulled back their support for the murdering Tories.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 2, 2019 at 2:48 pm

      • Tory Treason Against The British Empire & Human Rights. The Right To Live without …………………..

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 2, 2019 at 2:50 pm

  26. I have been on Disability Benefit since 1992 & have got £500,000 in that time. Now I am not disabled & in fact have never been disabled I have defrauded the DWP out of £500,000 & I am very proud of it & are throwing back in the face of the DWP. The DWP & police are powerless to act because of the fear of Tories who do not act of benefit fraud. The data which will show how I have defrauded the DWP. Set an example to all benefit fraudsters Tories & use me as the lesson that benefit fraud is a criminal offence. Tories act on the info. So you lazy Tories get off your arse & act as I am being lazy doing disability benefit fraud. Shall I go to the National Press to show up the Tories & the DWP as fools.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 2, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    • We all know you are a benefit fraudster, Stepping. You used to talk about it endlessly on the now-defunct ‘Void’ boasting about it and laying down the gauntlet to Iain Duncan and the DWP to take you to court. One of the many reasons you were given a lifetime ban. Some times it is better to keep your mouth shut …. 😉

      Void Reader

      January 2, 2019 at 3:17 pm

      • Tory Chat Bot. It took 20 minutes to piss off the Tories.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 2, 2019 at 3:45 pm

    • We all know you are a benefit fraudster, Stepping. You used to talk about it endlessly on the now-defunct ‘Void’ boasting about it and laying down the gauntlet to Iain Duncan Smith and the DWP to take you to court. One of the many reasons you were given a lifetime ban. Some times it is better to keep your mouth shut …. 😉

      Void Reader

      January 2, 2019 at 3:17 pm

      • I am a Disability General. I am called General Bullshit to Tory Chat Bots.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 2, 2019 at 3:46 pm

      • Someone is being set up. Lazy lazy.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 2, 2019 at 3:47 pm

  27. Tories stop terrorising disabled people. In fact Tories stop terrorising poor people.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 2, 2019 at 3:49 pm

  28. The Tories are not interested in Benefit Fraud. What a shame.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 2, 2019 at 3:50 pm

  29. It seems the Tories fear me & freedom of speech because the Tories have tried everything to kill me off. Well Tories seem to be in danger from their own making because the Tories can’t kill off every disabled person in the UK as was the plan. So ignore the warning signs of Tory suicide because suicide is not a game & suicide is not for profit like the Tories think. Scapegoating the disabled for profit & political gain. If the Tories think they are more important than the British Empire then Thalidomide & Slavery will bring them down to earth. The British Empire can not save the Tories. The right to live without ………. is a Human Right. Hide & run Tories.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 2, 2019 at 6:47 pm

  30. Mirrors the world of work, my foot as now fails on redundancy.


    Already a failure on the rising use to pay staff weekly and fortnightly, already a failure to address infrequent hours a week, now it fails to address redundancy where staff are left without pay.
    More so a safety net for this governments biggest promise to balance the books, welfare has since failed despite reform to address struggling public on low or no wages despite record recordings of people in work.


    Poverty,foodbanks,homelessness,etc are now a measurement for how bad welfare reform is actually doing.


    January 3, 2019 at 10:57 am

  31. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/universal-credit-250000-parents-workers-13803710

    Universal Credit: 250,000 parents and workers forced onto benefit WITHOUT full protection

    EXCLUSIVE: Tories claim existing benefit claimants won’t see their income drop. Yet 273,747 people were forced to leave Tax Credits and join the new system without proper protection in just one year


    January 3, 2019 at 11:21 am

    • Enigma

      People often make the mistake at looking at UC change of circumstances rather than their existing benefit. Take a look at any old legacy benefit change of rules as they are far more reaching than UCs.

      For example if a claimant on JSA takes a volunteer post,work experience, even a government approved training course, these are grounds for a change of circumstances.

      Devils in the detail and the slimy Tories knew this, they knew most claimants of old legacy benefits or credits would end up looking at the UC rules of rather than the appropriate legacy ones.


      January 3, 2019 at 11:46 am

  32. Isn’t it time businesses got off the immigration track and started funding proper training.


    “Finding the right workers” is a commonplace excuse for businesses these days yet never do we hear the question, “so who do you expect to fund the ones you don’t want”.
    Businesses answer to everything is just get people in from abroad, don’t worry about the others, let our own employees tax and NI contributions cover the costs of our whims.

    Government are forever telling the public to live within their means yet never do we hear this uttered towards businesses.
    Perhaps businesses need to lower their wants, an owner and top staff to expect to earn min wage like their lowest staff,cover the cost of expenses and forget about profit.


    January 3, 2019 at 11:36 am

  33. If you have a shit that is change of circumstances on UC. Going shopping is a change of circumstances on UC. Contacting the DWP is a change of circumstances on UC. Going to a Food Bank is change of circumstances on UC.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 3, 2019 at 2:04 pm

    • Meaning there are no rules on change of circumstances.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 3, 2019 at 2:42 pm

  34. The UK uses words like disabled Hero & disabled champion, but still the UK hates disabled people. The hatred felt is there to see from using disabled people as scapegoats for all the Tories failures. The Disability Hate Crime Law is a mockery of taking the piss out of the disabled. We are not pieces of shit on your shoe while you pull a funny face of hatred. But the Tories think they are helping & are disability champions & the disabled are killed off for profit & political gain. So no I will not shut up because some Tory voter says so.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 3, 2019 at 2:48 pm

  35. BBC One is screening “Fake Homeless: Who’s begging on the streets” on Tuesday 8th January, regional times vary.

    And a reminder that I, Daniel Blake receives its TV premiere on BBC Two on Saturday 6th January at 21:45

    The Couch Potatoes

    January 3, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    • It is tonight, Saturday 5th of January that I, Daniel Blake is on. BBC Two at 21:45

      Oven Baked

      January 5, 2019 at 11:31 am

  36. Bungling DWP announces seventh review of disability benefits errors in a year

    DNS – 3rd Jan 2019

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has been forced to launch its seventh costly trawl through the records of disabled people unfairly deprived of benefits following years of serious errors by senior civil servants.

    The minister for disabled people, Sarah Newton, announced on the last day before parliament’s Christmas recess that her department would begin another new review this month.

    It follows six other reviews launched by her department during 2018 to find disabled people who had been wrongly deprived of their disability benefits.

    The latest review is necessary because of an upper tribunal ruling in the case of a claimant moving from disability living allowance (DLA) to personal independence payment (PIP) who had his DLA stopped because he had failed to attend an Atos face-to-face assessment.

    Read More:

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 3, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    • A DWP spokesperson said in a statement on the latest – seventh – review: “We accepted the judgment and we are committed to implementing it correctly.

      “Making the necessary changes to guidance is complex and it is right we proceed carefully to ensure claimants receive the payments to which they are entitled.

      “We have recruited hundreds of extra staff to complete these exercises as quickly as possible.

      “We take matters relating to benefit underpayments seriously and will learn the lessons from the issues raised.”

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 3, 2019 at 7:43 pm

      • Sarah Newton said not a DWP spokesperson. Sarah Newton take some responsibility.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 3, 2019 at 7:45 pm

      • Sarah Newton got it wrong. DWP failure.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        January 3, 2019 at 7:46 pm

  37. Visited joke centre today, my work roach was having a go at me because I refused to sign poverty pimps paper work a few weeks ago, so I told her according to dwp rules & regulations I may participate at the provider without having to sign paper work, roach didn’t believe me & said she would look into it so I’ll more than likely get sanctioned…


    January 4, 2019 at 1:02 pm

    • They will never admit this behaviour but it still persists.Why did they have a go? most of it is behind steamrollering and acting as its a formaility.

      These courses never worked for me and have the potential to lead to problems often many years down the line,around 1990 I was sent on a course but was given the answers in part to a City&Guilds course around twenty years later a call was received with interest in this “Quailfication” needless to say I couldnt do what what was claimed on my CV it was on there but simply forgot about but was picked up by an eager employer who was desperate to fill a role,it made me look terrible.

      My advice is be truthfull don’t listen to people who play down or make you belive otherwise of capabilities that do not exist,you are the one who has to pick up the pieces of cheating,this could also apply to not disclosing health problems,it might take time but it will catch up with you.Never listen to them!


      January 4, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    • if they try a sanction it will be unlawful as you can not be forced to enter in to a contract with any 3rd party.


      as ever they dont have a clue what there own rules and regs say or even mean so imo they just make it up as they go along.


      January 4, 2019 at 4:05 pm

      • Superted if they do try for a sanction I’m hoping decision maker will dismiss it.


        January 4, 2019 at 4:11 pm

  38. I try not to listen to them Ken especially when they try to bully me into doing something against my will.


    January 4, 2019 at 4:08 pm

    • show them this and above foi. and make it clear to the coach any sanction will be taken all the way and can cost them there job for gross misconduct.


      January 4, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    • Violet

      What were you referred to – was it WHP or Skills Conditionality? In my county, Cambridgeshire, the only course they have going at the moment is WHP and it’s entirely voluntary for now due to limited places.

      jj joop

      January 4, 2019 at 5:37 pm

      • DBS – Derby Cleaning Services? Some cleaning company or summat?


        January 4, 2019 at 5:43 pm

      • Hi jj it was a back to work course 16 hours a week for a year!!! just think of all the ££££ they would have made out of me if I had signed their rotten third party contract…


        January 4, 2019 at 7:58 pm

      • 16 hours a week!!! Christ almighty. Do not, I repeat, do not let the provider or DWP pressure you into signing their wretched contract. And what the hell would you be doing for 16 hours a week for a year, anyway? Dear God.

        jj joop

        January 4, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    • superted

      How do you upload your photos onto here? I’ve got a few I’d like to put on here but don’t know how to do it. Cheers.

      jj joop

      January 4, 2019 at 5:39 pm

  39. Thanks Ted, I’m seeing coachy again next week I’ll let you know how it goes.


    January 4, 2019 at 5:31 pm

  40. BBW

    January 4, 2019 at 8:07 pm

  41. superted

    January 4, 2019 at 10:37 pm

    • Amber Useless Rudd proving there are sanctions on Universal Credit.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 4, 2019 at 11:31 pm

  42. DWP: New Work & Pensions Secretary Of State – Amber Rudd, 19 Dec 2018

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 4, 2019 at 11:29 pm

    • Amber Useless Rudd is a contradiction in terms.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      January 5, 2019 at 12:01 am

      • do you all see now how ujm was set up with the option to give advisers access and then they could of given you a list of zero hr jobs to apply for and if not a sanction to follow on uc

        tho the gdpr changes has put a full stop to this happening but at the end of the day if no one will employ you anyway then what pmsl down the whp for some work fair good luck getting those contracts signed 😉


        January 5, 2019 at 12:18 am

  43. People are sent to these conditionailty courses’ without any real prospect of ever completing them in a realistic time,often there for many years,if its not going to work just keep quite about it.Theres no sustitute for proper skills/trades not loafing around in some run down charity shop in the hope of a reference to a job that will never come soon or bullied in a fly by night office of a service provider who is only to willing to abandon everyone by moving to a more profitable area instead.Its a total disgrace.


    January 5, 2019 at 11:01 am

  44. Amber Rudd ‘regrets’ rise in food bank use linked to Universal Credit

    But the Work and Pensions Secretary insists UC is a ‘force for good’

    Ms Rudd said the Government was working to ensure more people are paid on time, with the offer of advanced payments being widened out to all claimants.Money that has to be paid back leaving people short.



    January 5, 2019 at 11:05 am

  45. The road to homelessness.

    Hundreds of families have been forced into begging for money online as universal credit plunges them into destitution, figures show.

    There has been a surge in crowdfunding campaigns set up by individuals who say the flagship welfare reform has left them struggling to survive due to delays in benefit payments or cuts to their income

    A DWP spokesperson said: “Universal credit replaces an out-of-date, complex benefits system and provides a safety net for those who need it.

    “It is designed to help people get off benefits and into work, because work is the best route out of poverty and the best way to improve your life chances.”



    January 5, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    • Yeah, the DWP put through a test payment of one pence. Then we get the headline “DISABLED PERSON FORCED TO GO TO FOODBANK. DWP EXPECTS THEM TO LIVE OFF ONE PENCE A MONTH”. One of them had trousered over 10,000 knicker. But five weeks later their money is paid in full. So what happens to all the extra lolly they have pocketed. If they had any decency they would refund it. Or ‘crowdfund’ others who are waiting for their first payment. But like Hell they do, they greedy fuckers just pocket the lot.

      Pan Handler

      January 5, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    • Here is an example of someone who has coined in over 7,000 nicker. Doesn’t fit the ‘narrative’ of this site though 😉 EVERYONE who goes onto universal credit is faced with at least a 5 week delay (plus an odd payment of one pence). What makes these people SO special?

      Pan Handler

      January 5, 2019 at 3:29 pm

    • £7,730 of £100 goal

      Raised by 652 people in 1 month

      Here’s the reality of universal credit: my mother is 55. She’s worked all her life. She was attacked in her care job months ago and now has a serious back injury and her doctor will not let her go back to work. She’s had to apply for UC. She got her first payment today: £6.

      The woman in the job centre told her to cancel her life and house insurance, even though she has cancelled everything including TV license, phone, internet, and bills. She tried to give my mum a leaflet on how to budget £6 for the month.

      My mum burst into tears, and told the woman it was insulting, and left. She’s now sitting at home with no telly, no internet, nothing but the four walls to look at. No fuel so she can get out of her rural village. Her grown daughters are having to buy her food.

      She’s going to fall into arrears with all her bills. She cannot work right now. She can’t even get out to socialise and see her family. Can’t afford the heating. She is broken.

      My mother is a proud woman and would never ask for help, so I am doing it on her behalf. If you can spare £1 right now it would make all the difference to her until I can help her get this met sorted.

      Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

      Posted by Siobhan Moyes

      I don’t quite know what to say. Wow, thank you everyone. I’m completely humbled by the generosity of strangers. We should not have to rely on one another to pick up the pieces, but I am eternally grateful there are so many good people out there who will step in. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, our hearts. You have all done a wonderful thing.



      Pan Handler

      January 5, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    • “no telly” pull the other one 😉

      Pan Handler

      January 5, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    • ” no internet” – your internet provider wouldn’t get cut off that fast. They will allow you to ‘skip’ a bill and come to an arrangement if you say you have a cash flow problem. They don’t just cut you off when you switch to universal credit. Neither does the gas or electricity company. So this is complete cobblers.

      Pan Handler

      January 5, 2019 at 3:36 pm

  46. Amber Rudd & Universal Credit Roll Out. Was that not to be completed by 2015 !!! Now admitting the failure of DWP deaths caused by UC. Scrap UC of there will be more deaths. Disability on UC does not exist because UC has cured all disabilities. Amber Rudd will go the way every other DWP Minister has gone sacked & in hiding from the United Nations Human Rights Breaches. Sarah Newton Disability Minister is already is hiding in the Tory denial factory killing off disabled people. So in the new report pilot how many of the 10,000 are going to die !!! Gamble with lives guilty of Human Rights Breaches. Genocide pilot called UC.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    January 6, 2019 at 11:01 am

  47. The bad stories in the media have frightened Tory MPs in marginal seats into turning against Universal Credit. If the roll out of this pile of foetid crap is completed by 2023 look for me in Holland because I’ll be a Dutchman.


    Hammer on the Mountain

    January 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm

  48. £6 for first payment of UC, that does not buy a lot in 2019.


    January 6, 2019 at 12:19 pm

  49. zero hours contracts and hundreds of specs letter and pestering companies, we will only go to the bottom of the pile if a company hiring for pestering them to much.


    January 6, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    • in just over 2 years i have now applied for near 10.000 jobs and not 1 interview. there zero hr job plan has failed already as the dwp can find you fit for work but no employer wants you even on zero hr jobs.


      January 6, 2019 at 4:14 pm

      • Very true Superted,their ignoring the likelyhood of finding work.Applied for lost count number here its not like it used to be take a number from a jobcard to the desk and phone for an interview,today is nearly all through websites and automated responses if not heard within a time don’t bother is the claim.Agencies are a real problem they want people with their own transport,recent work experience and high levels of skills/ability with continual mention of their client all often out of reach for the person being interviewed,other factors such as age and barriers play a part.People are simply left behind on benefits with no easy way out of a difficult situation.

        The goal was always to leave the benefits system not be dragged into this risable in work conditionality and accountability and scavaging little of whats there,it would be surprising if people didn’t know if they were coming or going but thats what its become today.


        January 6, 2019 at 6:06 pm

      • I lost count how many jobs I applied for in two years and had no interviews as well, the dwp do not help, and the disability team I have not seen for a number of years, its like pass the buck.


        January 6, 2019 at 7:50 pm

      • Same here. Coachy gets on to me about the number of jobs I’ve applied but can’t understand why I don’t get many face-to-face interviews. I tell him that 20+ people apply for everyone of these jobs but he doesn’t want to know.

        jj joop

        January 6, 2019 at 8:44 pm

      • i can print out near 8000 of them if they want to read a good job search pmsl 😉


        January 6, 2019 at 9:20 pm

      • Superted

        A lot of businesses now use sifting software that works much like the mcalpine blacklist so if your on it, your out of the running the moment your cv lands on their doorstep.
        With businesses now pushing the boat out like now warehouse employers are asking for a fork lift license ontop of experience, admin jobs asking for level 3 instead of 2 qualifications,etc.
        Even the governments idea of opening up apprenticeships to adults has tanked as all employers want is young people.
        Its a real hard time for over 30s and up and at best only get telp work when an employers back is against a wall.


        January 7, 2019 at 7:53 am

  50. Ken mention about agencies, I agree I sometimes wonder which agencies have the job as I seen countless jobs with different agencies offering the same job description time and time again.


    January 6, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    • My finalusername

      Agencies have a tendency to advertise fictitious jobs just to get people to register so they can tout to businesses that they have x amount of workers ready to go. Even when its not, there is no guarantee your going to get it as like DWP/JCP, they dont care what job they throw you into or how many miles away it is which is usually never in the confines of a city.
      Its also staggering how many agencies there are these days which means insecure and poorly paid work must be ever increasing as they are basically zero hour contractors.
      Its also worth checking these agencies out on company house if you have never heard of them before as ive caught many who are just a front to take your personal data and flog it. Basically they buy up long since disused agencies and spin it.


      January 7, 2019 at 7:35 am

    • Despite a lot of these jobs obviously being fictitious, coachy still takes them as gospel, i.e. genuine, and still wants to know why you haven’t had an interview or got a job yet.

      jj joop

      January 7, 2019 at 9:08 am

      • jj joop

        Unless they are inexperienced drones feeding DWP lines, a lot of experienced coaches/advisors play ignorant to the facts,like for instance recruiter and employer blacklists.
        Work coaches like to believe its a claimants fault because they dont want to admit their way does not work, that ultimately whether or not a person works is purely down to an employer/recruiter.

        The best line to give your coach is “i dont know, you would have to ask the individual employer” as we all know employers never ever come right out and say specifically why so will give a generic response like they do when they can be bothered to write back to you. If a work coach is dumb enough to try, the jokes on them as it will be their time they are wasting.

        When this use to happen to me i use to encourage the advisor to do so and despite protesting they will, never ever do i hear a single word about it again. Lesson learned, wounds licked until you get a new advisor dumb enough to ask the same question.

        A claimant just has to not allow themselves to be nailed down to a single answer that denotes they are at fault (this includes saying i dont know WITHOUT saying ask the employer) as we all know what happens next dont we jj joop.


        January 7, 2019 at 10:07 am

      • Following your recent application for the position of Accounts Assistant (reference: 154649VH), I am writing to let you know that unfortunately you have not been successful this time. I will keep your details on file and be in touch when a more suitable position arises.

        Thank you for your interest in this role and I look forward to working with you in the future.

        Best Regards

        thats about all i get back lol


        January 7, 2019 at 3:00 pm

      • Same here, ted.


        January 7, 2019 at 3:53 pm

      • I will keep your details on file and be in touch when a more suitable position arises.

        problem is they never have a suitable position, no one does yet keep my details on record so like doug said i must be on a list where i am black listed as near every job i apply for is with a agency.

        so on avg if i apply for 5k jobs per year which i have there is not 1 job i have not applied for even b4 i mashed up my arm so either way it makes no difference at all.

        the only way out i can see is to build up accredited qualifications but at my age and the amount of ppl applying for every job it is imo way to late yet told the jcp staff this 15 years ago and all i got was go down a4e or else lol.


        January 7, 2019 at 4:13 pm

  51. I will keep your details on file and be in touch when a more suitable position arises.

    problem is they never have a suitable position, no one does yet keep my details on record so like doug said i must be on a list where i am black listed as near every job i apply for is with a agency.

    so on avg if i apply for 5k jobs per year which i have there is not 1 job i have not applied for even b4 i mashed up my arm so either way it makes no difference at all.

    the only way out i can see is to build up accredited qualifications but at my age and the amount of ppl applying for every job it is imo way to late yet told the jcp staff this 15 years ago and all i got was go down a4e or else lol.


    January 7, 2019 at 4:13 pm

  52. Agencies have a tendency to advertise fictitious jobs just to get people to register so they can tout to businesses that they have x amount of workers ready to go.

    That is true and have heard it mentioned before,agencies’ in the past I found are interested in an on a near 999 call out for someone with a car to go on a here and now notice.A year or so ago someone on the top deck of a bus was running an agency from a mobile phone for a start the next day,telling one woman “if she can get a set of wheel’s he could offer some work”.

    I’ve never had any luck with agencies’ today,they are to demanding,require own transport also high levels of skills/work in the recent past,their contiually thinking of ther clients,the same person who mentioned the above also mentioned that if things go wrong they (employers) are more likely to go elsewhere to another agency.

    the only way out i can see is to build up accredited qualifications

    Thats true and skills conditionality was supposed to address this,but many are stranded at entry level and level one plus is out of reach.


    January 7, 2019 at 8:25 pm

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