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Universal Credit: Costs More Than Previous System and makes 60,000 Families Worse off.

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Resolution Foundation research suggests 600,000 families could be worse off

Universal credit, the government’s flagship welfare policy, will be more expensive than the system it replaces, according to a new report.

The rollout of the reformed system, which brings six benefits into one, has been hampered by delays amid widespread concern that the changes could force people into poverty, while there have also been reports that universal credit, which has undergone phased introductions across the UK, has increased reliance on food banks.

In the autumn budget the chancellor, Philip Hammond, announced that an extra £1.7bn would be injected into universal credit, which combined with the projected £3.2bn higher benefit take-up would make it more expensive than the legacy system it replaces, the study states.

The Resolution Foundation says.

This briefing note focuses on the implications of recent changes to Universal Credit (UC) – in particular the £1,000 increase in work allowances announced in Budget 2018 – for the number of winners and losers from the switch to this new benefit system, for UC’s generosity and for its impact on work incentives.

David Finch, Laura Gardiner.

Key findings

  • The Budget 2018 work allowance increase means that the number of working families that gain from the switch to UC increases by 200,000 – from 2.2 million families previously to 2.4 million families now. Among working families with children, the number (1.5 million) expected to be better off under UC now matches the number (1.5 million) expected to be worse off.
  • Relative to the pre-Summer Budget 2015 UC system, the work allowance and taper changes of recent years have restored or improved incentives to enter work at low earnings for renting single parents and the first earner in renting couples with children; and reduced incentives to enter work at low earnings for home-owning parents who are either single or first earners in couples, and non-parents without disabilities.
  • Single parents and second earners in couples with children – both very likely to be women – are most responsive to work incentives. As such, it is a concern that UC continues to incentivise single parents (particularly renters) to reduce working hours below the 16 hours backstop present in the tax credits system. It also still fails to sufficiently incentivise work for second-earner parents.
  • One of UC’s major advantages is that it gets rid of the very highest rates at which benefits are withdrawn in the existing system, which can leave people with less than 10p for each additional £1 earned. However, the fact that taxpayers on UC keep just 25p of each additional £1 earned (even less when paying for childcare costs) means that challenges remain.

Recommendations

  • We suggest boosting single parent work allowances, at a minimum, to the equivalent of 15 hours a week on the wage floor, and introducing a second earner work allowance for those in couples with children.
  • Financial incentives to progress in work should be boosted by gradually lowering the taper rate. In addition, planned progression pilots should test a far more ambitious system of practical support to help low-paid workers progress and secure better-quality roles.

Another day, yet another story:

Universal credit: Rent arrears double for benefit claimants

BBC.

Council tenants on universal credit have on average more than double the rent arrears of those still on housing benefit, a BBC investigation has found.

In Flintshire, north Wales, one of the first counties to test the new payment, the council says rent arrears have gone up by £1m.

One claimant there said a mistake left him with just £29 a month to live on.

But the UK government said it had listened to concerns and universal credit was working well.

The BBC contacted every local authority in the UK that has council homes about their arrears. The results from the 129 councils that responded showed the average amount owed by tenants claiming universal credit across the UK is £662.56. For those still on housing benefit it is £262.50

Flintshire council said this week that tenants on universal credit in the county owe on average four times as much rent as those on the old benefits. At times it has been even higher; in September it was six times as much.

In the 18 months since universal credit was introduced in Flintshire, the council’s rent arrears have increased by £1m, something officials say is largely due to the new benefit.

Ipswich:

Ipswich & District Trades Union Council

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Open meeting on the Universal Credit Crisis with key speaker Mark Page, a regional officer in the PCS with a background in the DWP.

Hosted by Ipswich & District Trades Union Council, all welcome.

Mark Page, Regional Officer PCS  will speak on the UNIVERSAL CREDIT CRISIS.

Every day another horror story about Universal Credit hits the news headlines, how and when will it end?Following debate at Congress, the TUC’s policy is for Universal Credit to be stopped and scrapped. What should replace it?

7.30pm Wed Nov 21st 2018 Unite Office, 13, Arcade St, Ipswich

This meeting is part of the build up to Unite Community’s National Day of Action on Universal Credit on Sat Dec 1st 2018.

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Written by Andrew Coates

November 12, 2018 at 11:18 am

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  1. People migrated to universal credit that are better off are only a bit better off while the people who are worse off are very much worse off, plus everybody will be under the same, much worse and unforgiving regime of UC conditionality and sanctions. One way or another there are no winners only losers.

    Jamie

    November 12, 2018 at 12:40 pm

  2. “Financial incentives to progress in work should be boosted by gradually lowering the taper rate. In addition, planned progression pilots should test a far more ambitious system of practical support to help low-paid workers progress and secure better-quality roles”.

    Cant wait to see more detail on this and how it applies to people who dont have kids and or disability/illness.
    So they are still not getting a work allowance like the other groups and at best and that remains to be seen in what the outcome is towards the claimant, what it is a claimant has to do to qualify for a taper reduction.
    Its for all groups a cheap skate move government are still bent on seeing where they can penny pinch.

    doug

    November 12, 2018 at 1:07 pm

  3. All your seeing is some cleaver Tory book keeping, nothing else because they couldn’t ever possibly be wrong.Daleks, the lot of them.

    Tories throughout the decades

    Exterminate, Exterminate, Exterminate,

    doug

    November 12, 2018 at 1:29 pm

  4. The Tory scum are triggering massive destitution & homelessness with their sick UC regime.

    Violet

    November 12, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    • Absolutely,and those b@st@rds on the front line in the jokecentre are making sure that the tory scums murderous policies are carried out.

      petunia

      November 12, 2018 at 2:36 pm

  5. “3. Work Allowance

    In some cases, you may be eligible for a work allowance. A work allowance is the amount that you can earn before your Universal Credit payment is affected.

    From 11 April 2016, the range of work allowances available was simplified. You will be eligible for a work allowance if you (and/or your partner) either have:

    responsibility for a child
    limited capability for work

    The monthly work allowances are set at:
    £198 If your Universal Credit includes housing support
    £409 If you do not receive housing support

    These work allowance rates will apply to all Universal Credit claimants.

    If you have earnings but you (or your partner) are not responsible for a child or do not have limited capability for work you will not be eligible for a work allowance.”

    Too bad if you don’t have kids or a ‘disability’.

    This works out at 25 hours a week on the minimum wage. Interestingly, over in the Netherlands you can work part-time (up to 25 hours a week) without it affecting your benefits (even it you don’t have kids or a ‘disability’. This is a kick in the teeth for those without kids or ‘disability’ especially those with kids or a ‘disability’ will be receiving more in benefits in the first place. As usual it is more money going to those who have the most. You can bet that claimants without kids or a ‘disability’ would love this ‘opportunity’ but as usual the Government can never get anything right. It is disgusting! Are you listening DWP? This something to take up with coachy!

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-work-allowances/universal-credit-work-allowances

    Disgusted of Suffolk

    November 12, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    • To be honest this would be a much welcome and vast improvement over the ‘legacy’ system IF this applied to EVERYONE claiming Universal Credit. What is the £5 on JSA all about? What kind of job pays £5 a week lol For all we know the exclusion of those without children or limited capability for work could just be an oversight on the part of the DWP. Coates, something to take up with McVey at your next tete-a-tete with her Ladyship.

      Brokeback

      November 12, 2018 at 2:33 pm

      • Problem is that when on Jobseeker’s Allowance you weren’t expected to apply for jobs with a few hours on the minimum wage. Under universal credit you are. What the DWP doesn’t mention is that every job normally involves a commute to it and back again, which costs money unless you cycle or walk. The idea that people can cobble together from several “mini jobs”, as David Freud called them, is nonsense for most people unless every one of those jobs is on their doorstep. People don’t want that. People want one job with one commute there and back which pays enough to get out from under the UC taper altogether.

        Jamie

        November 13, 2018 at 9:21 am

      • There is nowt for nowt, Jamie. Footwear costs money. Bikes are expensive to buy and cost money to maintain. In any case, you will burn off calories and use muscle mass from walking or cycling which will need to be replenished which, again, costs money. There is nowt for nowt in this life!

        Yorky Pud

        November 13, 2018 at 9:56 am

      • We were lectured about benefit dependency which is exactly what Universal Credit is in a form.

        ken

        November 14, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    • Just wondering why you put disability in quotes?

      Heather Hooper

      November 24, 2018 at 4:10 am

  6. Violet

    November 12, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    • He says its not to say the UK is doing shockingly or that things alt to be done totally differently. Its how can you improve the system.

      HOLD ON, its a completely NEW SYSTEM, how comes the UN never had cause to intervene back in the early 2000s. I cant think of one thing (please do pipe up if you know of any) within this new system and cross over regulations for legacy that hasn’t been criticized and found to have faults.

      doug

      November 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm

      • Our government ignores all opinions that it disagrees or which contradicts what its has been saying whether the criticism comes from individuals, groups, experts, councils, charities, food banks or the United Nations. They were repeatedly warned about what would happen if UC was rolled out in its current form but pressed on with it anyway which explains the terrible state in which the country is at present as far as social security goes. We are living through a phase where the raw unvarnished truth doesn’t mean anything any more.

        Jamie

        November 13, 2018 at 1:07 pm

  7. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    November 12, 2018 at 2:48 pm

  8. Andrew Coates

    November 12, 2018 at 3:55 pm

  9. Andrew Coates

    November 12, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    • Love that picture Andrew,

      Conservative, conservative, liberal, conservative.
      Poor residence never had a chance. Clacton the most famous dumping ground for the homeless, addicts, disabled, old and poor.

      doug

      November 12, 2018 at 9:31 pm

      • We used to go there, and Walton on the Naze, as kids from North London.

        Crowded with people…….

        Andrew Coates

        November 13, 2018 at 10:47 am

      • It could be a boom time for these run down coastal towns in the event of a bad Brexit. Sky-high airfares and
        the unaffordability of foreign travel will soon transform these grey, dismal, depressing towns into seaside resorts. We will be back to 1970s-style holiday – a week in a caravan in Skegness, Blackpool, Clacton-on-Sea….

        Air Miles

        November 13, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    • The Tories have taken the “Great out of Britain” this is nothing to proud of poverty deprivation and economic decline.

      Seaside towns among most deprived communities in UK

      Coastal communities have some of the highest unemployment and lowest pay rates in the country, report finds

      https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/sep/04/seaside-towns-among-most-deprived-communities-in-uk

      ken

      November 13, 2018 at 12:50 am

      • “Everyday Is Like Sunday”

        ♫Trudging slowly over wet sand
        Back to the bench
        Where your clothes were stolen

        This is the coastal town
        That they forgot to close down
        Armageddon—come, Armageddon! Come, Armageddon! Come!

        Everyday is like Sunday
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Hide on the promenade
        Etch a postcard,
        “How I dearly wish I was not here.”

        In the seaside town
        …that they forgot to bomb
        Come! Come! Come—nuclear bomb!

        Everyday is like Sunday
        Everyday is silent and grey

        Trudging back over pebbles and sand
        And a strange dust lands on your hands
        And on your face, on your face, on your face, on your face

        Everyday is like Sunday
        “Win Yourself A Cheap Tray”
        Share some greased tea with me
        Everyday is silent and grey♫

        Morrissey Jaywick

        November 13, 2018 at 10:47 am

      • With stunning views of Jaywick Sands 😀

        Popmaster

        November 13, 2018 at 10:57 am

    • It’s not just Jaywick. The toll and misery that universal credit causes is the same everywhere it has been introduced. There is not one single area anywhere in the UK where UC has been rolled out that has not experienced rising debt, rent arrears, evictions, increasing poverty and soaring food bank usage amongst an unacceptable number of claimants. Nowhere in the whole of the UK has the roll out of universal credit been different.

      Jamie

      November 13, 2018 at 1:02 pm

  10. Panorama to highlight the crisis in Universal Credit
    12 Nov 2018
    Families’ struggles with Universal Credit are brought into sharp focus by Panorama tonight, reinforcing serious concerns PCS has had from the outset on the development, implementation and effect of the government’s flagship benefits system.

    The programme on BBC1 from 7.30pm follows families as they struggle with their claims and focuses particularly on how the roll-out of UC is leading to mounting rent arrears and tenants in crisis. A BBC investigation has also reported today that council tenants on UC have on average more than double the rent arrears of those still on housing benefit.

    Chaotic reforms
    Our members who are on the frontline in both jobcentres and service centres are under immense pressure, and are suffering as a result of the government’s chaotic welfare ‘reforms’, staff cuts and office closure programme. Retention of staff is difficult due to stress, ever increasing workload and poor pay.

    Our members see first-hand the devastating effect government policies have on the most vulnerable in our society, yet their voices and concerns are too often ignored by the Tory government.

    We have asked for the roll-out of UC to be suspended and serious issues addressed. UC is failing in its main aim of making people better off; research from Policy in Practice shows that 30% of families stand to gain while 40% of families will be made poorer.

    Last month’s budget did not fully reverse the cuts that have been built into UC. The chancellor did not undo the benefit freeze, making it even harder for claimants to get by as the cost of living continues to rise. The 2015 benefit freeze will mean that in reality 10.4 million UK households, including millions on UC, will be worse off.

    Extra resources are desperately needed to deliver UC, which will merge six benefits into one payment. Ministers claim that they ‘have the resources at the moment’ however the PCS DWP group states that an immediate addition of 5,000 staff is required in the service centres alone. This is to address the imbalances in caseloads and between service centres and reduce number of phone calls being taken by case managers and that’s before the managed migration of several million more claimants in the coming years.

    Without proper investment in the social security system, vulnerable claimants will continue to suffer. UC is not the simplified system which the government promised it would be, instead pressure and responsibility is fully placed on the claimant meaning that inevitably, many will slip through the net without adequate and continued support – much of which is not being delivered at present.

    The departmental trade union is not seen as a stakeholder in the ‘test and learn’ phase of UC, the DWP has never asked the unions or front line staff what they think about managed migration and whether or not they think the department and its staff are ready.

    Our alternative
    We are launching our alternative vision for social security in parliament next month and to help inform that we have been compiling testimonies from our DWP members. They have been tasked with delivering the service while struggling with massive under-resourcing making life horrific for staff and claimants.

    One case manager said they were expected to make decisions on sanctions and hardship payments, for which they hadn’t been trained, and deal with more than 500 claimants, while also answering phone calls throughout the day.

    “The whole selling point of full service was the great service between the staff and claimant as you are dealing with people in your local area they can leave journal messages for their case managers but we are being told not to answer the journal message and it’ll sit there for weeks at a time. This includes vulnerable claimants, even people threatening suicide, and we aren’t given time to read their messages,” they said.

    Another said: “Universal Credit was promised to be intuitive, easily accessible by customers and flexible enough to require only limited intervention by staff. Sadly the reality couldn’t be further than the truth. The system is not for purpose.

    “Staff are doing their best but are unable to complete the necessary processes to ensure that everything works smoothly. It’s panic management at best.”

    Another was critical of the speed at which UC was being rolled out: “The government has rolled UC out too quickly, with not enough staff, and out of date technology. Staff are underpaid for a department working on behalf of the government who has rolled out a benefit which causes hardship whereby foodbanks have risen.”

    At the TUC in September a PCS motion on welfare called for a “radical transformation of the social security system into one we can be proud of and end the culture of demonising benefit claimants.”

    https://www.pcs.org.uk/news/panorama-to-highlight-the-crisis-in-universal-credit?fbclid=IwAR14FD7WSg4sGRVV_ttxlK-O5wP1hDH7vDKik-1M19YXkp9yjo7Vkh_yS7g

    Andrew Coates

    November 13, 2018 at 11:49 am

    • Some of the claimants featured ‘getting into trouble’ though were “missing appointments at the jobcentre, REPEATED appointments at the jobcentre. Basically ignoring the jobcentre completely. Like not going in to work and still excepting to be paid. What is it with some people? Missing appointments at the jobcentre is a big NO-NO – it will get you into trouble. Nobody likes dealing with the jobcentre but if you want to get paid and keep a roof your head you have to. You have no choice in the matter.

      And some of the other claimants were being paid their full universal credit entitlement but were spending the
      rent money part on other things using the excuse that they were “hopeless at budgeting”. Pay your rent – that’s what the money is for.

      Sometimes, it is hard to feel sorry for claimants who are the victims of their own stupidity and fecklessness.

      Catlin N

      November 13, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      • Two men who missed their appointments seemed mentally defective to me; there should be provision to deal with vulnerable people like that separately and leniently and without imposition of sanctions. The media have smelt blood as far as universal credit goes and are going to report unfavourably about its roll out in future unless it get altered out of all recognition. As time passes there will be hell up in respect to UC. You ain’t seen nothing yet!

        Jamie

        November 13, 2018 at 12:57 pm

      • Catlin N

        How many of these not attending an interview were working 16 hours or more, did the programme highlight this by either side in this debate. I ask as under the old system, people just receiving WTC and or CTC, child benefit,housing benefit never use to have to attend. Even with the new system a claimant working 15 hours nat min hourly rate cancels out any employment entitlement (JSA element) entirely and lets face it that it would be incredibly counter intuitive to cut housing benefit or WTC if we want that person to remain in employment and not lose it because they are homeless and or unhealthy all for the sole purpose of establishing DWP want over employment when you consider beyond registration what you actually do when you visit JCP.
        If a person is totally unemployed it all makes good sense however once a person hits £116 in earnings a week it all becomes less logical when the premise for attendance was based on people not doing enough to look for work yet we see DWP have no idea and cant prove it because the main reason they have you come in is to establish whether or not that is true via evidence. Add this to what i said was counter intuitive and its not hard to see its a waste of resources when under regulation of change of circumstances its fraud to declare work when you haven’t, not to mention DWP will know via HMRCs RTI (real time tax system) every employer must submit before paying an individual a wage and the ability to use AEO or reduce next benefits by said amount.
        What you acknowledge yourself is its all oneway traffic in that its DWPs way or the highway but the logical path should have been put CTC and WTC in HMRCs hand and left local councils with housing benefit considering they are the ones dealing with the properties in their stock, the social housing and private landlords for various reasons.

        As for claimants spending rent money, im afraid that’s the fault of our government who instituted the process work that way by default. Any declaration by a claimant proves this was a bad idea of ideas.

        Apart from like i said, only JSA who have less than 15 hours work weekly and adding ESA Work Related Activity Group who have less than 15 hours work weekly(totals around 900’000 between the two at best currently), its pointless dragging people in from other groups on a pre appointed regular whim of confirming or denying whether or not a premise applies.

        DWP cant claim to be about support and tax payer responsibility if from the get go they demonstrate no trust while openly admitting only a very tiny tiny portion of claimants have actually been found to have defraud benefits.

        doug

        November 13, 2018 at 1:43 pm

      • One of the claimants who had been given notice of eviction had a tank full of fish. Hope this is sorted out at least for the fishes sake.

        Shark

        November 13, 2018 at 2:28 pm

      • Not only did that guy have tropical fish he had a blooming great big German Shepherd too! I suppose he was getting fish food and dog foot for his pets at the food bank.

        Oh là Làrry

        November 13, 2018 at 5:15 pm

      • And living in an immaculate, pristine house. As far as pets go we know he at least had a huge German Shepherd dog. The dog looked happy, healthy and well-looked after. Tropical fish are the most trickiest of pets to look after. The fish were in excellent condition. He was compes mentis enough to contact Panorama at the BBC and invite Catrin Nye and her crew round. He is compos mentis enough to maintain a bicycle. He was compos mentis enough to ‘act’ in the ‘staged’ camera shots such as him fixing his bicycle. All this from a man who is not compos mentis enough to keep an appointment at the Jobcentre. He would prefer to “live under a bridge”.

        Come the 30 November he will no doubt still be living in his nice home, rent arrears written off. Non compos mentis? More like crafty! No flies on this guy!

        Aggie

        November 14, 2018 at 8:44 am

      • The man living in a shed was clearly mentally defective and should be on some different benefit than universal credit. The bloke with fish and an Alsatian had held several jobs down long-term and had been sanctioned repeatedly for not turning up to Jobcentre appointments, which is a ridiculously stupid thing to do. I don’t know if this fish-keeping dog-lover was a simpleton or not but he seemed to have brought much of the misery affecting him onto himself by not playing ball with the DWP; even on legacy benefits you can’t repeatedly ignore invitations to the Jobcentre without suffering extremely serious consequences eventually.

        (Hopefully his dog and fish will be successfully re-homed by animal charities.)

        Vidi, vici, veni

        November 14, 2018 at 1:32 pm

  11. Ready to be tracked by your boss? UK companies prepare to microchip employees to boost ‘security’.

    The political mafia should immediately instigate laws that block employers from embedding their staff with the mark of the beast.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/443726-human-microchip-employees-security/

    Violet

    November 13, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    • If you think these human micro-chips implants are going to take off in a big way, Violet you should be investing your bucks in them and pushing them. You could be looking at the next Google/Facebook/Apple stock here. Human micro-chip implants could become as commonplace as ear-piercings. You could do a lot with these guys: sign-on, pay for items as you were leaving a shop, open your door with them, access your work premises, access public building, use public transport, , start your motor vehicle with them, pass through passport control, take out a library book, authorise internet access. They are clever too in that they detect if your hand is no longer attached to your body – and shut down.

      Biohax

      November 13, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    • Violet

      Before walking down this road do consider what law allows a business to do this without consent or force consent by way of refusing a job position. This device could easily be a card, an app on a mobile phone without the need to be placed under the skin.
      You also have to consider how these work and how they will be continually powered which i would imagine is externally which raises further ethical and legal questions.
      While i see this as legal to implement, it would still have to be on a choice basis with an alternative im quite sure most will take rather than being chipped.
      The time to worry about this tech is when its multi purposed and allows various bodies to hitch a ride as im sure the public like mobile phones will again blindly walk into that one.

      doug

      November 13, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    • A story like that coming from what used to be called Russian TV should be taken with a fair amount of salt I reckon.

      Jamie

      November 13, 2018 at 2:26 pm

      • At least Abby Martin had the decency and integrity to part company with this Kremlin-backed Russian-state propaganda channel. Kudos to her! The same can’t be said for George Galloway and Alex Salmond. This pair of sell-out discredited chancers would sell their granny for Putin’s roubles.

        Sputnik

        November 13, 2018 at 2:38 pm

      • Independent (does anybody still pay attention to RT?):

        “The prospect of UK firms implanting their staff with microchips in order to improve security and efficiency has raised concerns among trade unions.

        Several legal and financial firms in the UK are reportedly in discussions with a company responsible for fitting thousands of people with chips in Scandinavia.

        The chips, which are about the size of a grain of rice, are usually implanted beneath the skin between the thumb and forefinger and use radio-frequency identification (RFID) technology to allow people to replace physical key cards, IDs and even train tickets.”

        The trend has become popular in Sweden, where more than 4,000 people have had chips implanted beneath their skin over the last five years through a company called Biohax.

        A partnership with the Swedish national railway system means people are able to use the Biohax chips as a replacement for paper tickets and plastic travel cards.

        Speaking to the Sunday Telegraph, the company revealed it is in discussions with British firms about implementing the technology on its workers.

        “These companies have sensitive documents they are dealing with,” Biohax founder Jowan Österlund told the publication. “[The subdermal microchips] would allow them to set restrictions for whoever.”

        In response, the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) and the Trades Union Congress (TUC) both sounded the alarm about the privacy implications of such technology.

        “While technology is changing the way we work, this makes for distinctly uncomfortable reading,” A CBI spokesperson told The Guardian. “Firms should be concentrating on rather more immediate priorities and focusing on engaging their employees.”

        A TUC spokesperson added: “We know workers are already concerned that some employers are using tech to control and micromanage, whittling away their staff’s right to privacy. Microchipping would give bosses even more power and control over their workers.”

        https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/microchip-uk-workers-employees-privacy-bioteq-biohax-cbi-tuc-trade-union-a8629656.html

        Andrew Coates

        November 13, 2018 at 4:37 pm

  12. Fooking hell,if the DWP get wind of this they’ll want all benefit claimants micro chipped as well.

    petunia

    November 13, 2018 at 4:00 pm

  13. Andrew Coates

    November 13, 2018 at 5:04 pm

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    A6er

    November 13, 2018 at 5:07 pm

  15. Jobcentre chiefs withdraw ‘deceitful’ guidance for GPs to help people off benefits

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jobcentre-chiefs-withdraw-deceitful-guidance-13534076

    About time to as DWP should have no influence over GPs and the NHS. Despite what the BMA said “”When a GP issues a ‘fit note’ it is based on the needs of the patient – part of which can be how best to support people back into work.”, That is only because this government meddled with that aswell to change it to what a person can and cant do rather than the usual sign off from work. Doctors do not know what you do in your job and its unprofessional and unethical to generalize or expect an employer to make allowances when often enough their insurance would prefer them to stay away and in some case in fact not cover them under said insurance like having blackouts for instance when driving, working at heights, heavy machinery as a few examples.
    A doctor would infact be making themselves legally liable unnecessarily, something i suspect both DWP and BMA didn’t care to mention when preaching.

    doug

    November 13, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    • Vertigo* (fear of heights) is not a recognised medical condition and certainly not ‘good cause’ to ‘refuse a job opportunity’. The Jobcentre could legitimately send a customer to job working at heights e.g. scaling up TV radio masts to change the lightbulb at the top, cleaning the outside windows on skyscrapers….

      *an horrific feeling, half of you wants to stay put, the other half wants to jump off.

      Vertigo

      November 14, 2018 at 9:00 am

      • Actually it is a good cause to refuse that particular job opportunity even though its not a medical condition.
        I use to work at heights as part of my trade from ladders, scaffolding, cherrypickers,etc and can state an employer will ask questions and test you in certain cases (alot of height jobs require tickets to use this stuff or short courses must be sat to evaluate a person).
        A work coach isnt anything such if they dont know the trades which most of the time they dont. They just look at your CV, or ask questions then pump into the system a job title for vacancies. They dont understand say holding a NVQ in gas installation does not make that person qualified/competent to do so. You see each type of gas appliance requires a specific gas ticket which you cant have unless you hold a core gas ticket first. Even when you have that, you have to be corgi registered. Ontop of that you need a specific CSCS/ECS,etc card followed various others like you may need IPAF,PASMA,etc,etc,etc.
        This is why work coaches are programmed to stick to basics like retail,warehouse, etc so its simple for their brain to absorb quickly.
        So a claimant could refuse in your example a job climbing masks on those grounds and DWP may well sanction them but ultimately they would win at tribunal hands down. Alternatively the claimant could just go to the interview as i can tell you they wont pass that and so the whole thing was a waste of time and money for everyone solely because a work coach didn’t know what they were talking about.

        doug

        November 14, 2018 at 10:46 am

      • Vertigo isn’t fear of heights. It’s a condition, usually caused by inner-ear problems, which makes makes you feel like everything around you is spinning to such a degree that it affects your balance. It can last from days to years. Symptoms include nausea, vomiting, headache, sweating and hearing loss, as well as the obvious one: having serious difficulty remaining upright and falling.

        I had labyrinthitis a few years ago. I was stuck in bed for about 9 days. If I tried to walk by myself I’d tip over. So, in fact, vertigo is a pretty disabling condition, and people have been awarded disability benefits for it.

        Heather Hooper

        November 24, 2018 at 4:40 am

      • Yeah, suffered from this too, Heather. Stupid doctor didn’t have the foggiest what it was. But the practice nurse did. The last thing you think though is that it is an ear infection. Like yours it cleared up on it’s own accord but if it was a permanent condition it would be pretty disabling. No way could you hold down a job.

        Barbara

        November 24, 2018 at 8:05 am

  16. The situation is dire for people in work then those looking for work have a real problem.Workplace stress and disability adjustment avoidence look to be two areas.

    The Stress Epidemic: employees are looking for a way out, polled 1,600 employees and found that 42% of UK workers regularly lost sleep because of workplace stress.

    https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/stress-causes-loss-of-sleep-for-nearly-half-uk-workforce/

    Three-quarters of employers do not adapt their performance management systems for staff with disabilities or conditions such as dyslexia and autism, according to Acas.

    https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/performance-management-adjust-for-staff-with-disabilities/

    Combine that with zero hour contracts and Universal Credit.

    Its survey of 1,003 HR and general managers also found that many from small, private organisations felt adjusting performance management for specific groups of staff was unfair to other employees.

    What Equality Act?

    ken

    November 13, 2018 at 11:41 pm

  17. A senior council officer trying to get more people into gainful employment in Derry and Strabane has warned the controversial Universal Credit (UC) system is discouraging unemployed people from taking up job opportunities.

    https://www.derryjournal.com/news/reluctance-and-fear-over-universal-credit-1-8700200

    ken

    November 13, 2018 at 11:48 pm

    • Ken

      If you have access to this site, it would be really helpful if you can copy n paste it or better still explain what it says in a bit more detail.

      doug

      November 14, 2018 at 11:00 am

  18. What happened to Johnny Void? Did he eventually get a job? Or what?

    Zammo

    November 14, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    • No idea, but it was a great site in its glory days.

      Andrew Coates

      November 14, 2018 at 4:54 pm

      • Not as great as this one (😉)

        Violet

        November 14, 2018 at 5:50 pm

      • It was. Hopefully the Void himself is doing OK.

        Zammo

        November 14, 2018 at 6:12 pm

  19. Keep hearing that McVile may resign over Brexit “deal”. Fingers and everything else crossed…

    Dan

    November 14, 2018 at 6:23 pm

  20. Cock Roach Court 😉 pmsl.

    Violet

    November 14, 2018 at 7:50 pm

  21. There appears to be a continual interest in Universal Credit in the media with more (negative) press.

    Keir Starmer says DWP is operating with a ‘hostile environment’ over universal credit as Camden prepares for full roll-out

    He said: “We saw the ‘hostile environment’ from the Home Office when it was the Windrush scandal. It will be the same with the Department of Work and Pensions, that you’re suspected of trying to cheat the system.”

    http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/politics/mp-hits-out-at-universal-credit-at-briefing-about-impact-in-camden-1-5778742

    Foodbank forced to ‘tighten its belt’ since launch of Universal Credit

    Staff are concerned about winter stock levels

    “They are able to get a loan in the meantime, but that doesn’t work because they have to pay it back as soon as the regular payments start.

    “Also the process can be very difficult for some people, particularly if they are not IT literate.”

    https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/foodbank-forced-tighten-belt-launch-2219658

    Some new benefit claims will now take five weeks as Universal Credit goes live in Northampton today

    More than 30 people gathered at a Northampton church cafe to air concerns about the rollout of Universal Credit in the town.

    https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/some-new-benefit-claims-will-now-take-five-weeks-as-universal-credit-goes-live-in-northampton-today-1-8704584

    It has to be feared that the festive period will only bring hardship and negative headlines.Much like the failed Tory election compaign similarly Universal Credit where we were once told sustainable employment was the way forward only to end up with a form of state reliance on handouts,supposedly under some form of insecure employment when the emphasis should be a living wage and people being able to live a standard life.

    ken

    November 14, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    • Disabled/chronically ill people have been living in a hostile environment for 8 years. Nobody seems to care, or even know…

      Heather Hooper

      November 24, 2018 at 4:45 am

  22. What does universal credit even mean? Universal (everyone) being paid in (government) credits not money. Your credits will be paid at the beginning of the week and if any remain on your account the following week they will be deleted; you will start afresh. You won’t be able to save. This will definitely be the case on the ‘lower tier’ (currently those on benefits and who rely on benefits to top up their wages). There will be at least another two tiers – middle and upper. On the ‘upper tier’ you will be allowed to accumulate an infinite amount of credits. And you though Universal Credit being paid in cash was bad?
    This is the dystopian nightmare we are sleepwalking into enabled by the cashless society, internet, smartphones, government, the banks, big business, blockchain, silicon valley (google, facebook, apple).
    Wake up before you wake up with an electronic ball and chain around your ankles!

    Futureshock

    November 14, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    • if you speak out of turn, say the wrong thing, wrong think or say something politically incorrect you will be punished. Likewise if you get voted down on social media or have low social credit. Your credits will stop. You won’t be able to travel. You won’t even be able to borrow a library book.

      Nosedive

      November 14, 2018 at 8:38 pm

  23. Zammo

    November 15, 2018 at 7:34 am

  24. This made me laugh:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/cabinet-minister-esther-mcvey-in-13591899

    McVey may not give a toss about suffering she has inflicted and intends to inflict on the needy and the vulnerable but seems well able to feel sorry for herself when spoken too harshly.

    Zammo

    November 15, 2018 at 7:37 am

    • Would like to see McVey having to deal with her own bloody jobcentre.

      Mags

      November 15, 2018 at 8:40 am

  25. will the job centre be bringing back universal jobmatch when we leave the eu? is this part of mays deal like innit?

    worried job seeker

    November 15, 2018 at 8:24 am

    • Universal Jobmatch was better than the Find-a-Job website and that’s saying something. Most likely food standards and worker’s rights would be the first things under attack when the UK leaves the EU, so that we can import lower quality cheaper food from countries like America and force people to work as many or as few hours, with less health and safety, as suits their employers.

      Zammo

      November 15, 2018 at 8:57 am

  26. Breaking news…. Breaking news…. Breaking news….

    Work & Pensions Secretary Esther McVey had RESIGNED!

    Breaking news…. Breaking news…. Breaking news….

    Breaking news....

    November 15, 2018 at 10:03 am

  27. Breaking news…. Breaking news…. Breaking news….

    Work & Pensions Secretary Esther McVey has RESIGNED!

    Breaking news…. Breaking news…. Breaking news….

    Breaking news....

    November 15, 2018 at 10:03 am

    • Can’t see it on the news anywhere yet, but if it’s true Good Bloody Riddance!

      Meg

      November 15, 2018 at 10:08 am

    • It is DOMINIC RAAB who has resigned. Clean out your bleedin’ ears.

      Lambeth

      November 15, 2018 at 10:11 am

    • We are almost deaf but we are pretty sure we heard Zeebeedee saying “We have just heard that work and pensions secretary has resigned at the end of the 10 o’clock news.”

      The Jones

      November 15, 2018 at 10:16 am

    • We are stone deaf but we are pretty sure we heard Zebeedee saying “We have just heard that work and pensions secretary has resigned at the end of the 10 o’clock news.”

      The Jones

      November 15, 2018 at 10:17 am

    • Live Brexit latest – Reaction as Raab and McVey quit

      Updates and reaction as Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and Work and Pensions Secretary Esther McVey resign in protest at the UK’s Brexit deal.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics

      BBC News

      November 15, 2018 at 10:21 am


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