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Esther McVey screams abuse at “ugly, destructive, Marxist, Militant, socialists” and subcontracts DWP to Citizens’ Advice.

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Pretty constructive Esther Attacks “ugly, destructive, Marxist socialists.”

Tory Esther McVey suggests her own party’s benefit cuts are “fake news” in shameless conference speech,

Reports the Mirror

The Work and Pensions Secretary launched her attack despite cuts being well-documented by experts and her predecessor Iain Duncan Smith.

She told Tory members in Birmingham: “If you were to believe everything you heard from Labour or read on social media you’d think we were somehow letting down the most vulnerable in society – especially disabled people.

“However, those who say we are cutting budgets are peddling fake news.

“So here’s the real news – we have never spent more on those with disabilities and long-term health conditions. We spend over £50billion a year, up £9billion on 2010.”

Ms McVey said she became a Conservative to stand against the “ugly, destructive, Marxist, Militant, socialists of the past”.

Today the Independent reports.

DWP calls in Citizens Advice to aid rollout of universal credit to claimants

The organisation has repeatedly raised alarming concerns over the rollout of universal credit, and last year said its expansion was a ‘disaster waiting to happen’

Citizens Advice Bureau has been called in to aid the highly contentious rollout of the government’s flagship welfare programme, Esther McVey has revealed as she announced a £39m fund for the partnership.

Ms McVey, the work and pensions secretary, said the cash would fund advisers to help claimants get their first payment on time and be ready to manage it when it arrives.

Citizens Advice –  a network of independent charities – has repeatedly raised alarming concerns over the rollout of universal credit, and last year said its expansion was a “disaster waiting to happen” with claimants being pushed into further debt.

Background:

The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, has publicly condemned the UK Government’s flagship Universal Credit scheme, claiming the widely criticised welfare reform makes falling into debt and hardship “practically inevitable”.

Welfare Weekly.

His comments are the latest in a long-line of criticisms and come only a few weeks after the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, slammed the new benefit for leaving the UK’s poorest citizens even more “worse off”.

Writing in the Yorkshire Post, John Sentamu, a long-spoken critic of Tory welfare changes, says: “People have already been struggling with rising living costs and stagnating incomes, but emergency food providers such as the Trussell Trust report that in areas where Universal Credit has been introduced, demand has risen far more steeply than in other areas.

The Archbishop of York: Why a fresh rethink is needed over Universal Credit and its implementation

Yorkshire Post.

 IT is five years now since Universal Credit was launched in an attempt to simplify the UK welfare system. Had everything gone to plan, the system would have been up and running across the country by now. Instead, the policy remains a source of ongoing controversy. As a follower of Jesus Christ, my greatest concern is for how this policy affects the poorest members of our community. In the Bible, we are called to uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. It is right that we look at the impact that Universal Credit, in its current form, is having on our poorest neighbours living in poverty.

If those changes can be made, then Universal Credit still has the potential to be a successful, effective policy, and one which makes work pay a Living Wage – and not the present so-called National Living Wage (topped up minimum wage). Our churches will continue to show the love of Jesus in their neighbourhoods. We will continue to run community projects; food banks, holiday clubs, breakfasts for children, debt advice, support for those who are struggling. Our churches are places of welcome where all can find a home. The Government should take immediate steps to support many people who find themselves, through no fault of their own, in desperate circumstances. I urge them to think again.

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Written by Andrew Coates

October 1, 2018 at 2:25 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on iaingrahamsite.

    iaingrahamsite

    October 1, 2018 at 2:31 pm

  2. Reblogged this on jaynelinney and commented:
    #McVey Continues to live on another bloody planet

    jaynel62

    October 1, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    • Andrew Coates

      October 1, 2018 at 4:00 pm

      • lol It’s below the belt for someone blessed with good looks to describe a disparate group of people as “ugly”. Such talk could also be construed as “hate speech”. Liar McVey ought to be more careful when she opens her gobby mouth.

        Goldilocks

        October 2, 2018 at 7:10 am

    • On another planet, she;s in our midst on ours who doesn’t give a dam.

      whoknew

      October 2, 2018 at 10:01 am

  3. How does is follow that all destructive, Marxist socialists are ugly. Surely there must be a few good looking ones.

    Honey

    October 1, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    • Look no further than my icon….

      Andrew Coates

      October 1, 2018 at 4:11 pm

      • lol It’s below the belt for someone blessed with good looks to describe a disparate group of people as “ugly”. Such talk could also be construed as “hate speech”. Liar McVey ought to be more careful when she opens her gobby mouth. .

        Goldilocks

        October 2, 2018 at 7:15 am

  4. WORK AND HEALTH PROGRAMME ALLOCATION

    Off topic but highly relevant to all of us who post here. Reading this FoI, not only does the WHP appear not to be mandatory but places are limited as well.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/work_and_health_programme_random#incoming-1240647

    jj joop

    October 1, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    • they have changed there tune now then as was meant to be mandatory for anyone on benefits for 2 years or more.

      and still no reply to what happens if the esf1420 is not signed.

      tho we all know the answer to that one 😉

      and you watch soon as there is no money to be made they will all vanish! and its drying up fast imo lol

      superted

      October 1, 2018 at 4:47 pm

      • It’s being devolved to the councils. Leeds council has it as a requirement for council tax benefit claims.

        Levinas

        October 1, 2018 at 7:46 pm

      • Seriously. So you have to do WHP in Leeds if you want to claim council tax benefit?

        jj joop

        October 2, 2018 at 9:47 am

      • WHP is not mandatory. My Jobcentre produces a monthly customer information booklet. In October’s edition it says:

        AM I ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAMME?

        If you have a health condition or have been out of work for 24 months you may be able to be put forward for this life changing support. The number of places are limited – so act quickly!

        HOW DO I START?

        The first step is to have a talk with your work coach who can refer you if suitable.

        jj joop

        October 4, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    • When I was told about the work and health programme early this year, I was told by my job centre advisor at the time it was 50/50 after survey whether I be placed on it. I am already on my 3rd advisor on the work and health programme,
      I am stamping some form of authority, so far the provider done nothing.

      myfinalusername

      October 3, 2018 at 4:08 pm

      • well if they got no work placements then you will be sat at there office for the time being as its a 2 year stint.

        problem is now you signed there paper work if a placement does come up you wont have any choice but to do it.

        you should of said no at the start and signed nothing 😉

        superted

        October 3, 2018 at 4:20 pm

      • Me sister lives up north in some ex-mining community up in Scotchland. She was down visiting the kids at the weekend. Anyway, she brought a leaflet her work advisor or whatever they are called had given her. To cut a long story short. I do go on a bit at times. It was something call Fair Start Scotland. Her work thingy says they are going to make something called a referral next time she signs on. She says she is worried sick. When she was on something called the work programme her money was stopped and she had to live on biscuits from the poundshop for six months. It made her diabetic. Anyway, I have forgot what I was going to say. On the leaflet I mentioned it says “You decide whether you want to take part and your participation is completely voluntary.” But if you flip over on the back it says “If you agree to take part, your work coach will contact a specialist Fair Start Scotland service provider”. What dies this mean?
        Can you hop on and off this Fair Start like the No 1 bus that goes around the city centre. Or if you agree to it does that mean that it’s game over? Thanks in advance. Shonax

        Shona from Huddersfield

        October 3, 2018 at 4:51 pm

      • And what would you advise superted. You sound like a kind of expert on these matters.

        Shona from Huddersfield

        October 3, 2018 at 4:53 pm

      • dwp rules state you do not have to sign any 3rd party providers paper work even in the jcp done it many times and won a tribunal over it as well.

        what they get you to sign is a contract so they can get the funding from the sfa if you say no they will not want you there.

        if you are given a letter to attend then you must do so but do not sign anything.

        it is only mandatory once you sign so dont!

        superted

        October 3, 2018 at 5:43 pm

      • Hi, Shona from Huddersfield 😀 You are through on line 6 zillion 😀 What’s your point, caller? 😀

        Shock Jock

        October 4, 2018 at 12:36 pm

      • I’ll give the bastards sfa funding – sweet fuck all! ‘cuse the language guv’nor 😉

        Londoner

        October 4, 2018 at 4:07 pm

  5. Reblogged this on Declaration Of Opinion.

    Mark Catlin

    October 1, 2018 at 5:04 pm

  6. This thing (mcvey) thinks she is untouchable. She thinks she has the god given right to punish all of YOU who refuse to bend your knees to their evil dominion. She has openly stated that she & her fellow collaborators in government will sanction any of you who attempt to reject their detestable criminality.

    We don’t have a government, we have a mafia.

    Violet

    October 1, 2018 at 5:09 pm

  7. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    October 1, 2018 at 7:49 pm

  8. Michel Hussain on BBC radio this morning: “There are 10s of thousands of [low-skilled, low-paid] jobs available in the care sector in England & Wales. These jobs are not being filled.” Why? Coates!

    Gangmaster

    October 2, 2018 at 7:02 am

    • We had to wait until the News at Ten for the answer to this perplexing question which has bedevilled mankind since the beginning of time: “British people do not want to work in the hospitality and care industries.” Funny how Jobcentre “Academies of Excellence are always in hospitality and care.” 😉

      Work Plan

      October 3, 2018 at 6:23 am

      • Is that these “Academies of Excellence” that offer the ‘opportunity’ of ‘work experience’ in hospitality and care. Local joke shop has one in “car valeting”. i.e. car washes.

        Lowest Common Denominator (LCD)

        October 3, 2018 at 6:31 am

      • I always wondered what that American expression meant!

        I used to think it was some kind of person like a chauffeur.

        Andrew Coates

        October 4, 2018 at 2:12 pm

      • The jokecentre has always been in the business of trying the fill the shittiest jobs that nobody wants.

        jokecentre 'customer'

        October 3, 2018 at 6:37 am

      • its wot the jokecenta call entry level like innit?

        becks

        October 3, 2018 at 6:41 am

      • The next step up is “detailing”. What you would call obsessive compulsive cleaning. Like cleaning every speck of dust out of the tyre treads sort of thing. Bringing the car up to “showroom condition”. It is completely bonkers though because cars are not ornaments you sit up on the mantelpiece. As soon as it hits the road you are back to square one. Customers of these places just like treating other human beings as slaves. It is so bad that the chemicals will melt your shoes to your foot and you have to cut your shoes off. Awful places to work. The jobcentre should be ashamed to be involved in this.

        Car Wash Slave

        October 4, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    • Theresa May’s (post-Brexit) definition of ‘low-skill’ is a job that pays less than £30,000 a year!

      WreXit

      October 3, 2018 at 6:46 am

  9. The Conservatives HAVE been cutting money to working-age benefit claimants for over three years. The four-year freeze on benefit uprating put in place by Osborne will have cut working-age benefits, in real terms, by about 10% when it ends next year. Or should I say if it ends. With Brexit on the way who knows?

    Ro

    October 2, 2018 at 9:01 am

  10. Reblogged this on Christopher John Ball.

    Christopher John Ball

    October 2, 2018 at 12:56 pm

  11. after brexit hapens we will all be hellped into jobs. esther will see two it.

    dimebar

    October 2, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    • Yep! We will all be wiping arses and scrapping the crust off pots for a living!

      Lowest Common Denominator (LCD)

      October 3, 2018 at 6:32 am

      • yea or out in the feilds from daun to dusk piking spuds an cabage

        dimebar

        October 3, 2018 at 4:52 pm

      • On one of the DWP twitter feeds they are banging on about the various campaigns they have going to recruit for agricultural jobs.

        Potato Picker

        October 3, 2018 at 4:58 pm

  12. Andrew Coates

    October 2, 2018 at 4:01 pm

  13. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating!.

    A6er

    October 2, 2018 at 7:50 pm

  14. If Esther stopped lying one day she might become a real girl.

    Pinocchio

    October 3, 2018 at 10:08 am

    • And if she let her conscience be her guide she wouldn’t be doing the terrible things she’s doing to miorities who don’t vote Conservative, e.g., single parents, sick and disabled, unemployed and under-employed, young and young-adult, and pretty much everybody earning the minimum wage or less.

      Jiminy "it just ain't" Cricket

      October 3, 2018 at 10:11 am

  15. WHP is not mandatory. My Jobcentre produces a monthly customer information booklet. In October’s edition it says:

    AM I ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAMME?

    If you have a health condition or have been out of work for 24 months you may be able to be put forward for this life changing support. The number of places are limited – so act quickly!

    HOW DO I START?

    The first step is to have a talk with your work coach who can refer you if suitable.

    jj joop

    October 4, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    • The point is that these schemes shouldn’t exist. The Scotch government should have scrapped these schemes when it had the chance. Instead they come up with this Fair Start. The Fair Start programme appears to be “voluntary” at least at the outset and providing you don’t “agree” to it. But don’t reckon on your chances if you decide to “try it out”, “What have you got to lose? :D” especially if you are stupid/naive enough to enter into third-party “provider” contracts. At that point you will most likely be stuffed.

      The Turkeys

      October 4, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    • “life changing support”. So you assume it will be for the better. It will be life-changing alright, but not in the way you think. You will end up on the street.

      Working Links Are SCUM!!

      October 4, 2018 at 12:50 pm

      • Includes an offer of supported employment – an internationally recognised ‘place and train’ model enabling disabled people to learn on the job with support from colleagues and a job coach.

        sounds like workfare to me and if you are on pip ect next time the medical rolls round it will be used as proof you are fit for work.

        superted

        October 4, 2018 at 2:47 pm

  16. I have been told today at joke centre that I have got to do a weeks course at DBC training for a crap part time cleaner job. Told “work coach” I am willing to participate but will not be signing providers paper work. She said ‘if I do not have a good reason for not signing then I WILL be sanctioned, rotten b*stards!

    Violet

    October 4, 2018 at 12:41 pm

  17. Thanks superted I still think I’ll be sanctioned as I am on the dreadful universal credit crap, I’ve got no intention of signing providers paper work they can go & swivel.

    Violet

    October 4, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    • it does not matter what benefit you are on they are 3rd party’s for profit so that is contract law.

      they can give you a jsd to attend but it only covers that day so if you refuse to enter in to a contract with them then thats up to you.

      contracts must be signed of free will so if ur adviser is using threats of sanctions then id put in a complaint to the jcp manager about there conduct and thinking there above the law.

      as you can see from the above there not!

      and i won the tribunal in 9 mins 😉

      adviser and floor manager have not been seen since.

      superted

      October 4, 2018 at 2:54 pm

      • How many times have you been sent to providers & not signed paper work superted? 😉

        Violet

        October 4, 2018 at 4:46 pm

  18. Superted I downloaded document stating dwp can’t sanction you for not signing poverty pimps paper work & will print off a copy & show it to coachy, if she threatens me again I will make a complaint to the manager.

    Violet

    October 4, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    • get one of these ready and make it clear you will take it all the way if you need to.
      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/appeal-a-social-security-benefits-decision-form-sscs1

      and where ever they send you get it in writing why you have been asked to leave so cant participate.

      i have been doing this even b4 the work programme and never went past a dm when i do a good reason letter in writing.

      i wanted to go to tribunal so done a mr over the phone and covered the sanction with a budging loan 😉

      sscs1 is what you send off after you receive the dm letter and send it off with it.

      superted

      October 4, 2018 at 3:13 pm

      • Thanks I’ll do that.

        Violet

        October 4, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    • How much more proof do you need, Violet? You have NEVER had to enter into contracts with these third-party ‘providers’. This goes all the way back to Reed in Partnershit (with the Devil) and their dodgy data waiver. Back then we weren’t sure and some very brave claimants had to put their neck on the line to see what happened. But now we KNOW!

      Zuna

      October 4, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    • How much more proof do you need, Violet? You have NEVER had to enter into contracts with these third-party ‘providers’. This goes all the way back to Reed in Partnershit (with the Devil) and their dodgy data waiver. Back then we weren’t sure and some very brave claimants had to put their neck on the line to see what happened. But now we KNOW!!

      Zuna

      October 4, 2018 at 3:56 pm

      • problem is some advisers are just out to get you one way or another so if they think ur stupid they will try it on and go for a sanction.

        and yes it is them that pushes the button if they think they have enough info to make one stick the dm only confirms this.

        it will also help if you get foi requests in your name to back up there own rules and regs as i have shown them these in the past only to be told there not interested in reading them as there right end of story.

        call it bad training or none what so ever as the staff seem to do what the lms tells them to do if they think they can get away with it.

        so dont let them 🙂

        superted

        October 4, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      • Like most things in life it’s the first time that is the most daunting. But once you get over the fear of these barstewards telling them to stuff their paperwork will become second nature. It will become a force of habit. You won’t even have to think about it. But if you roll over then it gives these DBC bastards a legitimate reason to try in on with a sanction. It’s the rolling over that allows these ‘provider’ barstewards and the DWP to get away with their downright criminal behaviour. The LAW is on your side, Violet.

        Judge Dredd

        October 4, 2018 at 6:22 pm

      • Your comment is awaiting moderation!

        Judge Dredd

        October 4, 2018 at 6:24 pm

      • Like most things in life it’s the first time that is the most daunting. But once you get over the fear of these bastards telling them to stuff their paperwork will become second nature. It will become a force of habit. You won’t even have to think about it. But if you roll over then it gives these DBC bastards a legitimate reason to try in on with a sanction. It’s the rolling over that allows these ‘provider’ bastards and the DWP to get away with their downright criminal behaviour. The LAW is on your side, Violet!

        Judge Dredd

        October 4, 2018 at 6:24 pm

      • These ‘provider’-led schemes are bad for your well-being and are best avoided if you value your physical and mental health at all. Respondents who have ‘participated’ in these schemes all report feelings of stress, anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, low-self confidence leading to suicidal thoughts, all brought about by their time on these schemes.

        Mind

        October 5, 2018 at 12:16 am

  19. I have all the proof I need I’m just terrified of getting a sanction.

    Violet

    October 4, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    • they have tried to get me sanctioned 28 times so far and 1 tribunal they have lost them all 😉

      superted

      October 4, 2018 at 4:53 pm

      • That’s terrific.

        Violet

        October 4, 2018 at 5:52 pm

      • i stopped playing there games 10 years ago as all i was being used for is a profit unit for the providers gain my cv is as blank now as when i first signed on.

        i went to national careers service at the jcp few weeks ago in a group meeting and all it was about was cv help like non of us even had one.

        its like there not even from the same planet as no cv no benefits yet they still want paying for the same old crap i was told 20 years ago and they was 15mins late due to traffic.

        yet if it was one of us we would get a 4 week sanction but at the end they all signed and even gave over email addresses.

        what the sheep dont realise is now they have joinder they will get in contact to sell there pile of crap courses and get you to sign up so they can sponge funding from the sfa.

        well you did sign up for it 😉

        superted

        October 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm

  20. I got sent to DBC bastards at the start of July, refused to sign any paperwork and I’ve not had any comeback about it up to press!

    Foxglove

    October 4, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    • Hopefully I won’t either if only EVERYONE refused to sign poverty pimps paper work it would put them out of business & it would serve them right!

      Violet

      October 4, 2018 at 5:21 pm

      • At one time the bastards in the joke centre were not keen on povo’s, now the fuckers have teamed up to bully and harass us into doing pointless shite!

        Foxglove

        October 4, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    • And nor will you. Because they don’t have a leg to stand on.

      jj joop

      October 4, 2018 at 5:56 pm

      • jj have you been sent to poverty pimps & not signed their crappy paper work, just being nosy 😉

        Violet

        October 4, 2018 at 6:24 pm

      • Violet. When I was on WP, I didn’t sign the data protection waiver, which meant Seetec couldn’t rent me out to anyone for so-called work experience. However I did sign the enrolment form because I didn’t know any different at the time, it being eight years ago now. But because I didn’t sign the waiver they parked me. I just had to turn up once a fortnight for 2 hours to do a job search on their shitty computers and that was it. I actually spent most of the time drinking tea and gossiping to the other jobseekers and slagging off the pimp of course.

        jj joop

        October 5, 2018 at 11:02 am

  21. At one time the bastards in the joke centre were not keen on povo’s, now the fuckers have teamed up to bully and harass us into doing pointless shite!

    Foxglove

    October 4, 2018 at 5:47 pm

  22. They have my phone number & email address wish I hadn’t given it to them now, I think I might change my number so they can’t call me anymore 😉

    Violet

    October 4, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    • imo they have most ppls phone and email addresses and also handed over access to ujm when it was going.

      what i have a problem with is the jcp sending all this info to the providers so then all they need is a wet sig on there paper work to claim joinder/contract and there rules and regs that go with it sanctions and workfair was most of it if you read providers guidance not about getting you in to work at all.

      it still baffles me why so many ppl hand all this over and dont even bat a eye lid and then end up at a charity shop for 6 months working for benefits for the profit of the provider.

      i was sent to army of angles for a stint on workfair and they paid me to leave not to speak to anyone and i wont get sanctioned.

      i was sanctioned for not attending 4 weeks later even tho i reported what they done same day at the jcp and was not interested and would sort it next time i signed on.

      goes on there fb page to see wtf they was playing at and was told i was a reject from society and a smelly tramp that was not wanted at there store.

      fb then had my account closed for what reason idk but it proves one thing i did attend the store on the day i was meant to and they was the ones that told me to leave all because i would not sign there contract to use me as a profit unit.

      so i had a good reason and thus never went past the dm but if you do a dm over the phone ur 99.9% sure to loose.

      so allways put it in writing and keep a copy just in case and if they ask you to wright it out in front of a adviser say no take it home take ur time and take it back next time you sign on as the dm cant do anything until he has seen it if a sanction doubt has been raised buy a adviser/agent.

      superted

      October 4, 2018 at 8:45 pm

      • They were always checking contact details at each appointment but now just as for the first line of address.

        ken

        October 5, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    • Violet. I am more than happy for them to have my email address and phone because that way there’s a clear trail leading back to them if they try and deny anything. I covertly record all my signings, interviews and telephone calls. Oh yeah!

      jj joop

      October 5, 2018 at 11:05 am

  23. That’s horrible calling you a tramp & it’s horrible how they have turned unemployment into a huge money making industry, they deserve their title poverty pimps.

    Violet

    October 5, 2018 at 7:39 am


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