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Even Tories Want End to Universal Credit Madness.

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Even IDS now regrets his past.


Some of us lot think this is a Poll Tax Moment.

Hat-tip to whoknew.

The Independent reports,

Tory voters want universal credit waiting time cut, finds poll


Three-quarters of the British public – including the majority of Conservative voters – want government action now to cut the time vulnerable people are waiting before receiving universal credit benefit payments, a poll has revealed.

The exclusive survey by BMG Research for The Independent showed 74 per cent of people think the average six-week wait facing most new claimants before they get a first full payment is too long.

There is growing pressure to use the Budget next month to tackle the issue, with a group of Tory MPs and even the benefit’s architect Iain Duncan Smith saying the waiting time should be shorter.

Can I also signal this article by somebody many of us consider one of the best activists in the UK.

She would blush at this, but Pilgrim  came to Ipswich and we talked for quite a while.

We were  impressed.

Universal credit has poleaxed the jobless. Now for low-income workers


Written by Andrew Coates

October 25, 2017 at 12:52 pm

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    Universal Jobmatch Alert

    October 25, 2017 at 1:50 pm

  2. Poll tax moment?

    I wish. That implies people are going to get out on the streets in sufficient force to oust the Tories (or at least their poundland Thatcherbot). I don’t see that happening (notable and fantastic exceptions noth=withstanding). I just don’t think the people are minded to get out and fight. Unfortunately that kind of fore is what is required. It’s clear the ballot box isn’t an option – even Mrs Mayhem isn’t stupid enough to call another election (although who can say!).

    I don’t have the strength for false hope these days, but I would love to be proven wrong.

    ghost whistler

    October 25, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    • I could also be proved wrong but there is something afoot here when IDS starts backtracking.

      Andrew Coates

      October 25, 2017 at 2:14 pm

      • It wouldn’t be the first time you have been proved wrong, love 😉

        Old Betty

        October 25, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      • Andrew

        I agree – have a minister ever refused to appear before the committee before?
        I suspect not.
        DWP has been slow in passing data over in the past but wholesale refuse in this case?
        I don’t remember that happening in the past.

        I would love to know what the internal Civil Service projections for disaster on UC is [they would have been modelled, even if Ministers specifically said none were to be done so can claim never knew, others involved would have moved to cover their backs if things dropped in the pot] – I suspect it is mind boggling

        The sheer number of stories is growing ever larger, and worse.

        MadMayhem said Gov was for working/poor people.


        October 26, 2017 at 7:25 am

      • I only hope that IDS does NOT replace May. Or even worse BJ in No 10. His and Trumps Hairdresser will be doing a lot of comuting


        October 26, 2017 at 8:24 am

    • ghost whistler

      I would say yes and no to what you are saying.

      The problem as laid out is thus.

      No people will not take to the streets willingly to rise up against this.

      However the problem is the rent arrears, they’ll not get a choice in the matter, plus landlords have said they will A] not renew for those on UC [where do people go in a smaller and smaller market?], B] those that are supposed to get UC, then come unstuck with the arrears will end up where? On the streets is where and there is no council fall back. C] “Error Free” quite rightly points out RTI below, feed that into the chaos to come and extrapolate from there.

      The timing for problems will be the period of no-payments – currently 6 weeks + [some have had 10, one extreme is 8 months] Now knowing DWP expect the 10 weeks to become the norm.


      October 26, 2017 at 7:33 am

      • On the streets is a darned site better than some fucking ‘hostel’.


        October 26, 2017 at 9:25 am

  3. Something will have to give because if things look this bad now with only 8% of claimants affected currently on Universal Credit imagine how impossibly awful and intolerable they will become when the other 92% of people on legacy benefits get transferred onto Universal Credit, over the next five years, assuming such a massive undertaking is actually possible at all. Food banks cannot meet that much need, councils cannot meet that much need locally, nor can charities address the misery and homelessness that will occur. And when “progression and work search conditionality” get extended to the working poor and they start to get sanctioned for not trying hard enough to get better jobs, or additional jobs, or more hours, in the same way as the unemployed, well, at that point the foetid shit will really will hit the fan.

    No matter how much the Tories want to retain the savings made by means of swingeing cuts to social security they, or some other government, will be forced to ameliorate the worst effects of UC and backtrack on many of the worst and most pernicious aspects of this horrible reform.

    It isn’t a case of “if” but “when”.

    Vampire Brat

    October 25, 2017 at 2:46 pm

  4. “Under universal credit, workers on low incomes will be made to look for extra hours as a condition for receiving the benefit. If they are earning less than the equivalent of the minimum wage at 35 hours a week, they will be placed in one of two “labour market regimes” (otherwise termed a “work-related activity group” or “conditionality group”) with conditions attached to their benefit claims to “incentivise” them to increase their hours – or find higher paying or full-time work.

    Those placed in the “intensive work search regime” will be obliged to “take intensive action to secure … more work, attending regular work-focused interviews, attending work search reviews (at least fortnightly) and undertaking work preparation, work search and other work-related activities”.

    If they are judged to not be complying with these conditions they will be sanctioned, just as jobseekers are now. At the higher level this would mean the loss of about £70 a week for three months for the first failure, six months for a second failure, and three years for a subsequent failure.

    For many, the money will be taken from elements of the benefit paid for children and housing. Removing money intended for the children of working people – to the point of threatened eviction for rent arrears – will hopefully be a step too far for most of the population, and will be intolerable for the families affected.

    It’s possible that employers may also withdraw support for the measures when they witness the effect on their staff. Workers weakened by hunger, or exhausted from having to walk for miles as they can’t afford bus fares, or unable to wash with hot water because they can’t top up gas or electricity meters, generally do not perform well at work.”

    If taking food from children’s mouths and throwing households onto the street doesn’t stir up a shitstorm, what will?


    October 25, 2017 at 3:01 pm

  5. Andrew Coates

    October 25, 2017 at 3:11 pm

  6. Good to see Labour on the attack ( at last ! ), over Universal Credit.
    The whole system is cruel and vindictive, and full of more booby-traps than a WW2 German minefield.
    It was conceived by an extremist and a right-wing think tank, and powered by the anger of a Tory party which had suffered three humiliating election defeats.
    Now at last , a large number of people realise that it not just the ‘skivers’ who are going to be left hungry and destitute under Universal Credit, but ordinary working people as well.

    Jeff Smith

    October 25, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    • IDS and company were also turbocharged by the remorseless campaign in the Daily Mail, Sun and other tabloids as well as poverty porn on Freeview TV, e.g., Benefits Street, to tar every benefit claimant, even the sick and disabled, as being workshy scroungers and parasites who all could get jobs if they wanted and not have to live on money leached from “hard working tax payers”. This coupled with the trauma of a global economic crash enabled Cameron, Osborne and other filth like Iain Duncan Smith to, literally, get away with murder. The Tories had been waiting decades for a chance to destroy the welfare state and the crash fused with persistent demonisation of the poor, sick disabled and the needy gave it to them leading us to the parlous place we have now reached. None of this horror would have been possible at any other time since the second world war.


      October 25, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      • Absolutely true. The problem is the Tories have had a free run from Labour for the last 5 years. Time to build their whole system of Universal Credit, disability denial and all the rest. Now it stands there like the Berlin Wall.
        Its not going to be easy to knock it down, but we must try.

        Jeff Smith

        October 25, 2017 at 9:56 pm

      • The whole edifice of Universal Credit is built on sand. It’s leaning now, like the Tower of Pisa, and, if there is any justice left on earth, will eventually tumble into ruins, crushing its builders in the process, like the Tower of Babel. The government keeps justifying the roll out of UC by claiming it gets people into work faster and keeps them in work longer – as far as I can remember in the terms the government references UC is 7% better at doing this than Jobseeker’s Allowance. The question has to be: Is getting a modest seven more claimants into work per hundred – most likely part-time, zero-hour contract, gig economy, piece work, or other crumbs of insecure poorly rewarded work – really worth the titanic pain, misery, poverty, hunger, rent arrears, evictions and homelessness that UC inflicts upon the many, many people among the other 93%, sometimes indefinitely, really something worth getting when the cost is so much suffering, anguish and pain to others?


        October 26, 2017 at 11:06 am

  7. Even IDS now regrets his past.

    Its always the same with people like him.Everyone has to pick up the pieces and deal with the consequences.He doesn’t care now banging on about Brexit while everyone else has to dig deeper into their pockets.The country isn’t even out of the EU yet either.With low wages/frozen incomes and unaffordable increases in food prices the future is not a smooth road ahead.One thing the Tories do not want to mess with is food prices/availablity it could turn very nasty.

    A foodbank is to start offering toys to help struggling families who worry they can’t afford Christmas

    They hope it will stop children from going without this Christmas



    October 25, 2017 at 4:52 pm

  8. Apart from the problems with UC, there are also problems with HMRC’s Real Time Information system.

    “Under universal credit, everybody’s monthly pay is automatically sent to Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs through the pay-as-you-earn RTI—real-time information—system, and HMRC then sends that to the DWP so that it can do the universal credit calculation.

    But Resulting in payments to many individuals by HMRC reported being paid late.



    October 25, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    • Yes, HMRC’s Real Time Information system is straight from the world of work.

      I suppose the title of the following site says it all:


      HMRC’s RTI system is riddled with software snags and errors and delays – and that is before you bring in Universal Credit!!!

      What happens when Zero Hours contracts are mixed in?

      And just when you thought one nightmare at a time was bad enough, along come three!!!!!!

      If the software errors are bad, just wait until human errors are added – which is guaranteed in the real world.

      Error Free

      October 25, 2017 at 7:38 pm

      • Oh, I forgot to mention HMRC’s RTI helpline – IT’S EVEN WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Error Free

        October 25, 2017 at 7:44 pm

      • That is the problem.When something goes wrong somone has to look at and investigate.If that happens here there and everywhere then more headlines will begin to surface.


        October 25, 2017 at 11:48 pm

      • Error free

        This was predicted by Me, doug, whoknew and many others.

        In an ideal world it would work – if it was all on the same platform, running the same software, updated all at the same time, running at the same speed, information flow is is verifyable and error checked.

        If any one of those was a issue trouble starts. RTI is not any of the above so I wonder what is going to happen? Add in Working Tax Credits and fluctuating pay, and as you say ZH contracts It WILL collapse. Now we have UC entering the picture from stage right…


        October 26, 2017 at 7:18 am

      • It’s not even ‘real time’ anyway. In computing ‘real time’ means the actual time as of now – not up to a month later! But in the mind of IDS ‘real time’ sounds more gee-whiz, space-age and futuristic than ‘monthly update’.

        Electric Sheep

        October 26, 2017 at 7:58 am

      • The whole ‘real time’ concept was flawed from the outset anyway. You can’t have a output (payment) based on fluctuating outputs throughout the month. Which input do you capture to base the output on? We The maximum/minimum payment during the month? How can the system ‘react’ to varying inputs? The duration of the varying inputs? Only a mad person could devise such a crazy, nonsensical scheme?

        Electric Sheep

        October 26, 2017 at 8:08 am

      • This whole ‘real time’ horseshit is a disaster waiting to happen!

        Electric Sheep

        October 26, 2017 at 8:10 am

      • Nobody has ever explained how real time is supposed to work. Suppose you are on zero contract hours. One week you don’t work, next week you get a couple of hours, the following week you work 20 hours, the following week before Christmas you are in for 80 hours, after New Year it goes dead and they don’t need you for a month… how does the uc monthly payment go… ?

        Supermarket Zero Hours Contract

        October 26, 2017 at 8:16 am

      • Or would you just end up with one pence uc for the month?

        Supermarket Zero Hours Contract

        October 26, 2017 at 8:17 am

      • I can’t wait to see the mess that will occur when the self-employed start submitting data, in respect to their variable earnings, and discover that if their earnings drop below some hypothetical level Universal Credit won’t make up any shortfall. A lot of the poorer self-employed are going to end up in a world of hurt because of the way UC has been designed to try to force everybody on it to try to earn more money or get punished.


        October 26, 2017 at 8:18 am

      • Real time universal credit is based on the same IBM system Herr Duncan Smith used back in his days as a Commandant in Nazi concentration camps. Your employer will give you a ‘punch card’ which you will hand into your tax office.

        Herr Heindrich

        October 26, 2017 at 8:24 am

      • Universal Credit ‘Real Time’ Operations Centre.


        October 26, 2017 at 8:42 am

  9. Government set to drop Housing Benefit cap for Social Housing. People needing medical care would have been hit hardest.

    Full details to be released next Tuesday.


    October 25, 2017 at 8:20 pm

  10. Pressure Mounts For Government To Cut ‘Cruel’ Universal Credit Wait
    ‘No one can give us any real justification for it.’



    October 25, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    • The justification is: To rob the poor and needy in order to reduce the deficit. It’s all about saving money and the Tories will persist with it if they think that they can get away with it, since to do anything about it means spending more money on benefit claimants.


      October 26, 2017 at 8:14 am

  11. They sure as hell don’t mind changing laws which have been and are being changed but don’t want to change the few much needed changes to UC.


    October 26, 2017 at 3:40 am

  12. Appy World Order,

    you asked:

    How long before universal credit is accessible only through some ‘app’?

    A trial of Unemployed Only, Useable in Only Approved Locations Food Cards in lieu for actual money was trialed a year or so ago.

    Herr Idiot Smith was boasting about it… then Idiot Smith went quite – me suspects that the trouble with UC had major major impacts on it, plus the usual: Eay to hack, if hacked who is responsible, user or Gov as directing to specific places only, useless. You know the usual.


    October 26, 2017 at 7:12 am

    • Unless you have a smartphone, tablet or similar you can’t use apps.


      October 26, 2017 at 11:08 am

    • Gazza & Appy World Order,

      How long before universal credit is accessible only through some ‘app’?

      I think online/apps access only to benefits is the DWP’s end-game.

      jj joop

      October 26, 2017 at 11:16 am

      • jj joop

        About as likely as what I pointed out above. As a good pointer to typical and current DWP IT procurment, may I present Exhibit A.

        The Digital Signing Tablet… Contract signed for a device with even less memory than on PCs running Windows ME.
        Update Zero’s out payment. Oops, you and your family go hungry. System Crashes, you go hungry/rent not paid/etc etc. System gets hacked, zero’s out [see above effects], or better yet indicates arrears so never will get payment… or food etc etc. As many ways it can work, it won’t. Take your pick, I kind of remember them actually trying this out last year and its all gone quite on that front as well strangely enough.

        Exhibit B. Information Act – I look forward to ConMen trying to force it onto someone as a means of payment, with all the problems that will entail.

        To illustrate the point, in IT procurment they will not pick the best system, they’ll pick the cheapest [See Exhibit A above].

        For a glaring illustration of how that works out just look at RTI.

        Now, imagine hundreds/thousands of people beseiging DWP… get no response, moving onto their Councils/MPs and heaven forbid start starving/dying in the full glare of publicity.

        At the moment its a case of individuals here and there out of sight out of mind. Now with Full UC? That will be in your face from get go, that’s why people are panicking. Same thing for the cashless idea – way too many people would be affected by it going wrong.


        October 26, 2017 at 7:51 pm

      • they just removed 2 years worth of data on a active jsa claim in my case, and they think ill trust them with my personnel data they can jog on.

        not that they had any other than a phone number but that has now also been refused.

        but how will we contact you its much faster buy email ect.

        yeah but if you delete it all when you feel like it then you can send me a letter 😉

        looks like i also broke the printer pmsl


        October 26, 2017 at 9:28 pm

      • DSC_0022
        😉 bet it will like that one 😉


        October 26, 2017 at 9:34 pm

      • superted

        Fuck me gently, mate. I’ve had literally hundreds of replies like this. They mean jack-shit!

        jj joop

        October 27, 2017 at 9:06 am

      • the form they sent wanted a wet sig so if i signed that and sent it back it would be via the jcp and open to sanctions, yet i done it online line and no sig required.

        data protection 😉


        October 27, 2017 at 1:11 pm

  13. The Treasury may have to sign off mooted changes in the six-week waiting time currently experienced by claimants. Frank Field’s Work and Pensions Select Committee steps up the pressure today, and Tory think tank Bright Blue yesterday repeated its demands for the wait period to be cut. Ministers are looking at options, and note that May didn’t knock down Corbyn’s line that Iain Duncan Smith should be listened to on the topic.


    October 26, 2017 at 9:14 am

    • Even cutting the waiting period by a fortnight won’t make Universal Credit much better for the poorest and most vulnerable. Universal Credit will still plunge the most needy people into debt – TO THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF – right from the get go. What kind of social security is that when the very worst off in society and only the very worst off in society are treated so poorly and harshly?


      October 26, 2017 at 11:12 am

  14. Bet you didn’t know that Hitler masterminded universal credit all those years ago, duncan shit has finally realised his hero’s cunning plan!


    October 26, 2017 at 11:27 am

  15. Oy vey 😉


    October 26, 2017 at 11:42 am

  16. Dicl Turpin

    October 26, 2017 at 11:51 am

  17. Frank Field MP, Chair of the Committee, said: “The baked in six-week wait is cruel. No one can give us any real justification for it.

    Well, Frank on 18 October on this very blog (Gawd Bless you Ma’am ! Theresa May scraps universal credit helpline charges)., Mrs Bumble, no less, commented on a baked-inGawd Bless you Ma’am ! Theresa May scraps universal credit helpline charges.

    You are amongst other things a plagiariser, Frank, but at least you read Ipswich Unemployed Action


    Mrs Bumble (Outraged)

    October 26, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    • As if Frank Field has ever had an original idea! Bet he was pleased with himself though as the committee chuckled at his “baked-in” comment. Must have thought the doddery old buffoon thought he was on Masterchef 😀

      Mr Bumble (Equally Outraged)

      October 26, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      • I think Frank Field is Kenneth Williams, risen as one of the undead, post mortem.

        Ooh Matron!

        October 26, 2017 at 9:21 pm

  18. Hello Frank *waves*

    Mr and Mrs Bumble (Both Outraged)

    October 26, 2017 at 2:17 pm

  19. Liverpool “spending millions” helping people affected by Universal Credit

    Mayor hits out at how council left to support people without cash for essentials while they wait for controversial new benefit

    Liverpool City Council is spending millions of pounds of taxpayers money helping people waiting for benefit payments under the government’s controversial new Universal Credit system.



    October 27, 2017 at 12:27 am

  20. Universal Credit arrears could limit new build, association warns

    Radian, based in the South of England, issued the warning after revealing that 65% of its tenants on the new benefit system are in “major” rent arrears – averaging £700.



    October 27, 2017 at 12:32 am

  21. OT: Impact of Automation in warehouse – Drone replaces 100 workers

    “The flying drones putting workers out of a job”

    Flying drones and robots now patrol distribution warehouses – they’ve become workhorses of the e-commerce era online that retailers can’t do without. It is driving down costs but it is also putting people out of work: what price progress?
    But this is no sci-fi film, it’s a warehouse in the US – one of around 250,000 throughout the country, many gargantuan in size: retail giant Walmart’s smallest warehouse, for example, is larger than 17 football fields put together.
    And these automated drones are now doing the jobs humans – on foot, or operating fork-lift trucks and mechanical lifts – used to do: and they’re doing them more cheaply and more accurately.
    Two drones can do the work of 100 humans over the same time period, according to supply chain specialist, Argon Consulting. This means they can do several tours of a warehouse – even at night – compare results, identify discrepancies, and build up a much more accurate picture much more quickly.

    ME: So in a shrinking jobs market where will the savior “Gig” jobs, at a pay rate you can live on come from?
    And this is the tip of the iceberg….


    October 27, 2017 at 5:34 am

    • Capital detests Labour. Capital utilises Labour only when it has no other option. Capital’s end game is to do away with any need for Labour whatsoever. But where will Labour go when it is no longer needed?


      October 27, 2017 at 11:22 am

      • Tax the means of production rather than human labour. So, tax the output of the robots displacing workers and redistribute that money back to them and to the country generally: If some robot is ten times more productive than the worker(s) it replaces. impose a 20% tax on its output and then redistribute a portion of that tax to the worker (if he/she has no work) to raise his/her income to an agreed guaranteed basic level (part earned and part benefits as necessary) and use the rest for general purposes to help run the country like a robotic version of human income tax.

        Marx Resurgam

        October 27, 2017 at 11:55 am

      • To the fema camps where the guillotines await!


        October 27, 2017 at 11:55 am

      • Capitalism is modelled on never-ending growth. If the goal of Capital is to accumulate more Capital from the
        cost-savings and efficiencies brought about by the means of robotic production whilst reducing the pool of Labour where will the market for Capital’s robotically produced goods and services come from? Capital will need a pool of human ‘surplus labour’ to consume the products of robotic Labour.

        Groucho Marx

        October 27, 2017 at 2:05 pm

  22. PIP investigation: Assessment complaints rise by 880 per cent… in just one year

    Complaints about the personal independence payment (PIP) assessment process rose by nearly 900 per cent last year – from 142 to 1,391 – apparently corroborating the results of a year-long Disability News Service investigation.



    October 27, 2017 at 6:42 am

  23. Theresa May ‘Bypasses Parliament’ With Three-Month Response Time For Opposition Motions

    The move follows criticism that the Government has ignored or tried to avoid difficult votes on policies such as NHS pay, tuition fees, housing benefit caps and Universal Credit.

    After Tory MPs were ordered to abstain from a 299-0 vote on pausing Universal Credit last week, party grandee Sir Edward Leigh warned that “the road to tyranny is paved with executives ignoring Parliaments”.



    October 27, 2017 at 9:09 am

  24. DWP agrees to test new approach in latest sign of softer approach to sanctions


    October 27, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    • I don’t know why you’re bothering with this, ted. Like the rest of the lazy bastards who post here, you’ve absolutely no intention of finding a job. If you and the rest of these job swervers would only get a job, you’d have no need to post your job-dodging comments here. Lord, you lot disgust me. And you especially, Coates! Get your fucking hair cut.

      As for you, ted. Sooner or later the DWP are going to get you. They’re just biding their time, you’ll see.


      October 29, 2017 at 11:51 am

      • Bet you’re on the dole yourself or in a low paid crappy job, tosspot!


        October 29, 2017 at 7:59 pm

      • they have tried 27 times already how many more goes do they want pmsl 😉 im just biding my time to go get them again 😉


        October 29, 2017 at 10:06 pm

      • Foxglove – yes, I am on the dole. I am looking for work unlike you, ted and the rest of the work shy layabouts who post their pathetic attempts to avoid work on this blog, dressed up as attempts to find work but who claim sic, they can’t get a job.


        October 30, 2017 at 12:48 pm

      • There’s work out there for those that want it!


        October 30, 2017 at 12:49 pm

      • Call for Merseyside to have new powers to stop Universal Credit “misery”

        A new system could mean struggling families are not left waiting for four weeks for payments

        Merseyside politicians have called for the region to get new powers to protect families from the worst “misery” of the Universal Credit benefit system.



        October 30, 2017 at 2:13 pm

      • Is this the same “Coates” who can be seen each and every day applying for jobs all day long in Ipswich Library? The same superted who has applied for 528,000 jobs in one week alone on universal jobmatch? Not looking for work? Your ‘aving a laff!

        Ms Suffolk

        October 30, 2017 at 4:12 pm

      • The scores on the doors are superted 27, DWP 0 😀 Good game DWP 😀 But you leave with nothing 😀

        Bruce Forsyth (deceased)

        October 30, 2017 at 4:19 pm

      • Bollocks! It is a condition of receiving unemployment benefits that you look for work – and prove it! If Coates, superted, and the other assorted scallywags weren’t genuinely looking for work they would be booted off benefits tout de suite


        October 30, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      • nug

        Why are you out of work if there is ‘plenty of work out there for those who want it’? Just asking 🙂

        PS A lot of the posters on here are retired, me included. Just saying 🙂

        doug's old nan

        November 1, 2017 at 10:28 am

    • Yee-haw 😀 We’re coming for you, ted. And when we find you we’re coming down hard 😀 Real hard 😀 Hang ted high 😀 Yee-haw 😀

      Sheriff Sanction and the DWP Posse

      October 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    • don’t think so pmsl superted: 27 dwp: 0 pmsl

      superted's rotten teeth

      October 29, 2017 at 12:50 pm

  25. Proof Of Ownership and Proof Of Id and Taking Out Loans and the High Importance of Income Tax Files…
    LOANS and Wild Stories about the documents which prove you’re who you say you are and those that prove your ownership of everything of yours.I can prove my Id easily with a valid British Passport.I can prove I own 3 houses and rent 1 flat.I can prove my salary,pensions and benefits are mine,by my income tax files and by my Insurances.
    In Contrast
    WILD STORIES….EG:”I lived near you when you were only 12 ,I’ve known you all my life ,somebodys telling lies,if that had been true,we’d have known, it you can prove it ,to me,through NsandI…”messed up my using references to documents I ‘d been waiting for,to get loans through”….(now I haven’t said much here,but in fact I’ve said everything)Hearsay can mess up finances and online chat mixed with textmessages can be a nuisance,when those who are not so clever,try to be.You obviously just thought you knew everything about me,but really you never had any legal right to know anything at all.This is happened to me quite a few times and I had to use small claims procedures to correct it…Speech and Written documents have separate legal definitions.There is no such thing as an Oral Contract…Therefore there is no point in criminals using the Text to try and alter documents.The Mobile Phone is a listening device! But,
    R V Morris wins again!! (altering amounts to appropriation The Theft Act 1968 and Theft ,Deception Robbery Burglary and other Inchoate Offences Act 1978)This may be of particular relevance to the Financial Ombudsman Service and the FSCS and the Inland Revenue and Banks…

    Ms Angela C McMahon Solicitor Phd

    October 27, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    • Indeedily doodily 😀

      Ned Flanders

      October 27, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    • Fucking hell!

      Ant Middleton

      October 27, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    • Blessed Day.

      Offred the Handmaid

      October 27, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    • Praise be. Blessed are the fruit.

      Offglen the Handmaid

      October 27, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    • Why are all those handmaids so fugly? Why aren’t the fertile women prettier? No wonder the ones left with working ovaries don’t get pregnant very often.

      Fred Waterford

      October 28, 2017 at 4:17 pm

  26. Blessed Day

    Offred the Handmaid

    October 27, 2017 at 8:13 pm

  27. Committee publishes ‘damning’ new Universal Credit evidence

    Committee Chair Frank Field MP calls evidence submitted to the Committee by Halton Housing Trust the “most damning” he has ever read on what he describes as Department for Work and Pensions “maladministration.

    Food bank referrals double

    In a sample of 1,252 tenants the Trust found that the majority of claimants were eligible for a Benefit Transfer Advance as they were moving from a so-called legacy benefit (like Jobseeker’s Allowance) onto Universal Credit. This is paid back during the first 12 months of a Universal Credit claim.

    Advance payments issues

    The Department refuses to amend the recovery period of the Advance Payment, from 6 months to 12 months, even in the instances where they acknowledge that the claimants should have had a Benefit Transfer Advance.

    Personal budgeting advice unavailable

    Lack of coordinated approach

    A lack of coordinated approach between the NHS and DWP. The Trust has recently supported a tenant who received a £50 fine for ticking the “JSA” box on a prescription form, because the form has not been updated with a “Universal Credit” option for receiving free prescriptions, and there are no plans to do so

    ‘Throwing claimants’ finances into chaos’

    Committee Chair, Rt Hon Frank Field MP, said:

    “It would be difficult to think, in all my period of Chair of the Select Committee, of a piece of evidence that is so damning on the DWP maladministration which is mangling poorer people’s lives. This maladministration is throwing Universal Credit claimants’ finances into chaos.”



    October 28, 2017 at 10:46 am

  28. Warning over Universal Credit roll-out in Fife

    A new call has been made to halt the roll out of Universal Credit into Fife. It comes from Gordon Brown, in his role as patron of the Cottage Centre. The former MP said plans to launch it just weeks before Christmas would cause ‘‘confusion, complexity and chaos.’’



    October 28, 2017 at 12:18 pm

  29. 528,000 universal jobmatch apps this week pmsl

    superted's rotten teeth

    October 28, 2017 at 1:12 pm

  30. MPs Call For Criminal Record Tick Boxes On Job Applications To Be Scrapped

    Members of the justice select committee want to see reforms to the system, which they say has a negative impact on the life chances of those who commit crimes in childhood.

    A report by the committee released on Friday claims people convicted of an offence when they are under 18 can struggle to shake off its effects, causing problems with access to employment, education and housing.



    October 28, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    • It couldn’t possibly have anything to do with this?… 😉 Their Lordships have already rebuked the Scottish Ministers and Disclosure Scotland over this. This is the story of a man – P – who was caught masturbating behind a hedge and exposing himself to his sister when he was aged twelve. He was denied employment 27 years later because of these incidents despite having no further convictions. His Lordship had plenty to say about this.:

      …. In my opinion, the respondents’ focus on the system as a whole is misconceived. The right approach is to consider whether disclosure of the conviction information in the particular circumstances of the petitioner’s case was proportionate. When the issue is framed in that way, it seems to me that disclosure was disproportionate. I say this largely for the reasons advanced by counsel for the petitioner. In summary, there was no consideration given to whether the deemed conviction had any rational connection to the aim of protecting vulnerable adults in a care home environment. The relatively minor nature of the deemed conviction was not taken into account. No consideration was given to the fact that the matter had been handled through the Children’s Hearing system and not by way of a criminal prosecution. Importantly, the fact that the offence was committed very many years ago when the petitioner was a child was ignored, as was the fact that despite his previous mental health issues, there was nothing to suggest that the petitioner was likely to engage in sexually inappropriate behaviour. Finally, no regard was had to the petitioner’s general good character. The cumulative impact of these various considerations is such that disclosure in the petitioner’s case was, in my view, disproportionate.

      …. His Lordship observed that in these days of keen competition and defensive decision-making a candidate with a clean record is very likely to be ranked by any prospective employer ahead of one without such a record. An applicant for employment with a “negative” PVG scheme record will inevitably be at a significant disadvantage when it comes to finding work in the care sector. The possibility that he or she might nonetheless succeed in securing registration with the SSSC does not, as it seems to me, detract from that reality. So, wrongful and unjustified disclosure cannot be said to be saved or somehow put right by the theoretical possibility that the conviction will be disregarded by a prospective employer or by the SSSC in its role as the statutory regulator.

      Legal Eagle

      October 29, 2017 at 8:07 am


      In the cause

      P (AP)





      Legal Eagle

      October 29, 2017 at 8:08 am

    • In my opinion, it cannot realistically be said that every such offence necessarily signifies lifelong dangerousness to the extent that indefinite disclosure is justified. The circumstances leading to the petitioner’s deemed conviction appear to have involved an element of adolescent sexual experimentation in the form of masturbation and a single incident of indecent exposure to his younger sister in the family home. There is no evidence that she suffered any lasting harm because of this conduct. The offence was committed when the petitioner was a child and he has never done anything remotely similar over the next 27 years. The relatively minor nature of the conduct giving rise to the deemed offence, the fact that the petitioner was a child at the time of its commission, the fact that his case was dealt with by the Children’s Hearing and not through the court system, and the lack of any repetition of sexual misconduct for more than a quarter of a century all seem to me to be highly relevant considerations when it comes to assessing whether it is now proportionate to disclose the deemed conviction. Yet despite the cogency of these factors (especially when viewed cumulatively), the respondents’ system does not allow for them to be considered at all at the stage of deciding whether to disclose the conviction. There is simply no mechanism for testing the proportionality of the interference with Article 8 rights in the light of the individual circumstances of the petitioner’s case.

      Legal Eagle

      October 29, 2017 at 8:12 am

    • “His Lordship observed that in these days of keen competition and defensive decision-making a candidate with a clean record is very likely to be ranked by any prospective employer ahead of one without such a record.”

      Couldn’t argue with that, Guv 😀

      Old Lag

      October 29, 2017 at 8:28 am

    • “Vetting Information”; just beneath this there was a subheading reading: “Convictions and Alternatives to Prosecution”

      All on your ‘record’. eh…. 😉

      Crime & Punishment

      November 1, 2017 at 10:21 am

  31. Britain’s growing army of low-paid, self-employed workers face being more than £2,000 a year worse off than employees with the same earnings as a result of the government’s flagship welfare reform, ministers have been warned

    The new warning comes in a report published on Monday by the independent Low Incomes Tax Reform Group (LITRG). It states that there is “a very real possibility that people will be discouraged from starting self-employment, and existing claimants may be forced to give up their work”.

    A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions said: “Universal credit supports self-employed people for up to a year while they establish their business. If, after a year, the business isn’t meeting the minimum income floor, then they will have to either increase their self-employed earnings or take on additional work as part of their claimant commitment.”



    October 29, 2017 at 4:32 am

  32. DWP’s new law.

    Currently, if a parent owes child maintenance, deductions to recover that debt can only be made from a bank or building society account held solely by them, and a small minority of parents are getting away with not supporting children by putting money into a joint account with a partner.


    New laws will be brought in to allow deductions to be made from joint accounts in order to recover child maintenance arrears,



    October 29, 2017 at 10:24 am

    • The DWP IS the Law 😀 Hang ’em high 😀 Yee-haw! 😀

      Sheriff Sanction

      October 29, 2017 at 11:30 am

  33. The long wait for UC going down to 5 weeks. not good enough.

    Theresa May’s own Tory council leader attacks shambolic rollout of Universal Credit as she ‘agrees new climbdown’

    Simon Dudley spoke out over rules that force poor people to wait six weeks for their first payment under the new all-in-one benefit.

    His comments came amid fresh reports that Theresa May will authorise a new climbdown in next month’s Budget.

    She has already scrapped a 55p-a-minute helpline and brought in same-day loans. Now Chancellor Philip Hammond will reduce the six-week wait to five weeks, the Sunday Telegraph reported.

    A Downing Street spokeswoman added: “We are continuing to monitor Universal Credit and we will take the actions we feel are necessary as we do that.

    “We will look at what the Select Committee have said and take that into consideration as part of our monitoring of how it is rolling out.”



    October 29, 2017 at 10:36 am

    • Double posted sorry whoknew


      October 29, 2017 at 2:37 pm

      • All this will do is to prolong the agony. The fuss about UC is NOT going to die away until major changes have been made to it; knocking a measly week off an impossibly long waiting period won’t make much difference to the suffering or pacify the MPs and media getting more an more wound up about it. Theresa May sacked George Osborne because he was a c*nt and would be stupid indeed to then make a speech about helping the “just about managing”, let alone the poor sods who can no longer can manage at all, while sticking to Osborne’s policies to reduce the deficit on the backs of the poor.

        There will be hell to pay if the government tries to persist with the cruelty of UC with only minor changes.

        This is one that they cannot dodge or avoid facing up to.


        October 29, 2017 at 6:04 pm

  34. Tosser


    October 29, 2017 at 10:36 am

  35. How do I get a refund on tribunal fees? How to claim back the Tories’ illegal charges



    October 29, 2017 at 10:47 am

  36. Violet

    October 29, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    • do not believe there are any real billionaires in China or at least no free ones who do not fear being jailed if the say or do the wrong thing but just front men for Chinese government owned corporations. China executes many “billionaires” for “corruption”. Russia also sends many “oligarchs” to the Siberian gulags for “corruption”…

      China Girl

      October 29, 2017 at 2:03 pm

  37. Theresa May’s own Tory council leader attacks shambolic rollout of Universal Credit as she ‘agrees new climbdown’

    Simon Dudley spoke out over rules that force poor people to wait six weeks for their first payment under the new all-in-one benefit



    October 29, 2017 at 1:29 pm

  38. I do not believe there are any real billionaires in China or at least no free ones who do not fear being jailed if the say or do the wrong thing but just front men for Chinese government owned corporations. China executes many “billionaires” for “corruption”. Russia also sends many “oligarchs” to the Siberian gulags for “corruption”.

    China Girl

    October 29, 2017 at 2:03 pm

  39. Oxford East MP urges Universal Credit rule change

    OXFORD East MP Anneliese Dodds has urged the Government to change a ‘farcical’ rule so Universal Credit claimants can get more help from charities.



    October 29, 2017 at 2:36 pm

  40. Tory perverts outed at Westminster.


    October 30, 2017 at 9:21 am

    • The only reason hagface May is pissed off is because none of the Pervy swines touched her up!


      October 30, 2017 at 12:11 pm

      • 😉


        October 30, 2017 at 12:19 pm

  41. DROITWICH Spa Foodbank has revealed the extent of the help it has given residents in need in the last 12 months.

    From 2016-17, more than 1,300 three-day emergency food supplies were provided to Droitwich people in crisis, compared to 1,186 in 2015-16.

    Of those, 449 went to children and the top three reasons for referral were ‘low income’ (25 per cent), ‘benefit delay’ (18 per cent) and ‘benefit changes’ (17 per cent).

    The work of the foodbank’s volunteer force is crucial to stopping local people going hungry and in the last year 74 local people have volunteered.



    October 30, 2017 at 11:49 am

  42. See my previous post on Tory U Turn. The latest round of alleged scandals might bring about an early election and an end to UC/Brexit

    Mr Middlesex

    November 1, 2017 at 9:18 am

    • Jezza was no doubt rubbing his hands at all the lovely political capital to be gleaned from the ‘Tory dossier’, that is until Labour Party activist Bex Bailey stepped out of the woodwork to claim that she was raped at a Labour party event when she was nineteen years old? Stephen Crabb and Amber Rudd and the rest of the Tory miscreants would have had to really over-step the mark to push Bex Bailey off the front page. Jezza will be be advised to keep his mouth shut on this one.


      November 1, 2017 at 10:03 am

    • Same goes for the Scottish Nazi Party (SNP). Wee Nicola was about to board yet another bandwagon, that is until she discovered that there is a similar dossier of SNP MSPs and party members.


      November 1, 2017 at 10:08 am

    • Damian ‘The Omen’ Green being fingered now. As well as being the Antichrist wasn’t Damian head honcho at the DWP?

      PM’s deputy Damian Green denies inappropriate behaviour claim

      Prime Minister Theresa May’s deputy, Damian Green, has said allegations of inappropriate behaviour towards a female activist are “completely true”.


      Campaign to Stamp Out Tory Sleaze

      November 1, 2017 at 11:00 am

  43. Did anybody hear what has supposed to be announced about the social housing cap on rent

    Advice Please

    November 1, 2017 at 10:20 am

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