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Gauke, Taking it Easy as DWP Descends into Omnishambles.

Parliament briefly heard of Work and Pensions secretary David Gauke  when he announced in Parliament in July that the state pension age will rise to 68 .

Since that time this is his last known statement of the Man,  as key policies of his government, which his Department is in charge of, such as Universal Credit, are in a condition worse than omnishambles.

6th August 2017

After a busy year so far, the summer recess comes as a welcome slow-down for most MPs.  There has been no shortage of drama in politics for the past couple of years and recent months have been no exception.  General elections tend to be somewhat exhausting and, on this occasion, it resulted in a less than conclusive result.

The General Election was then followed by a reshuffle and, on a personal note, I moved on from the Treasury to the Department for Work & Pensions.

The summer recess is a good opportunity for ministers in new departments to get their heads round new issues and attempt to get on top of their brief.  In my case, I am spending some of the period when Parliament isn’t sitting visiting DWP offices around the country, meeting staff and understanding the breadth of work undertaken by the department.  I am also spending plenty of time reading into the various subjects covered by the department – employment, disability benefits, pensions and so on.

This should, I hope, be helpful for the autumn when Parliament returns and we have the party conferences.

Much of the work is quite technical in nature but my previous ministerial experience is helpful, whether it is experience of a big operational part of government (I previously worked closely with HMRC), pensions policy (I worked on pensions tax policy when at the Treasury) or just an understanding of large parts of public spending (which was key when I was Chief Secretary to the Treasury).

Meanwhile, the constituency work continues with the correspondence and regular constituency surgeries.

Parliamentary recess is not a long holiday (a point MPs often make, somewhat defensively!) but it should enable us to recharge our batteries for a busy few months.

We imagine he in some quiet holiday retreat away from the world, ready to re-assume his pressing duties here, “David is a Patron of the Hospice of St Francis, the Watford Peace Hospice and the Three Rivers Museum.  He writes regularly for the Croxley, Rickmansworth and Chorleywood editions of My Local News magazines and The Berkhamsted & Tring Gazette.”

Meanwhile while Gauke relaxes, the Residential Landlords Association announces,

 

The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has introduced a new helpline for landlords whose Universal Credit tenants will not communicate with them.

The new number 0345 600 4272 can be used by landlords who are unable to obtain the tenant’s co-operation to get DWP to supply information when it comes to enquiries about major payments –  such as a direct payment to the landlord.

This is a significant change as, before now, landlords were totally dependent on the goodwill of the tenant when it came to accessing information.

The new number can only be used by landlords in areas where Universal Credit has been fully rolled out.

The official Universal Credit guidance says the landlord should:

  • In the first instance engage with their tenant about the issue.  The tenant has access to their own information via their online account and can share it with their landlord
  • If more assistance is required the claimant can ask to share their personal information with their landlord or other representative via their online journal, face to face or by calling the service centre and giving explicit consent
  • When contacting Universal Credit the claimant’s representative will be asked to confirm their identity so the case manager can speak to the landlord direct.

Earlier this summer DWP said it will address problems faced by landlords who house Universal Credit tenants following a meeting with the RLA.

RLA directors David Smith and Chris Town met with Caroline Dinenage MP, the new Minister responsible for housing cost support, to discuss issues including rent arrears and direct payments.

This came about after the RLA’s most recent quarterly survey showed 38% of landlords with tenants in receipt of UC had seen them fall into rent arrears in the past 12 months. With tenants owing an average of £1,600.

The RLA runs a course on Universal Credit, with dates currently available in Manchester and Leeds.

The other story the Gentleman of Leisure is avoiding is this:

The London Economic (TLE)

A freedom of Information request shows that new welfare reforms are allowing the government to distort the true figures of those sanctioned on welfare, disability and in receipt of pensions

The very latest figures from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) obtained by The London Economic in response to a freedom of information request I submitted show that new welfare reforms such as Universal Credit are allowing the true figures regarding people sanctioned to go grossly unreported.

Today 20 million people in the UK are claimants, 13.8 million are on a pension, and a further 6.8 million people are of working age.

The DWP has started, from August 2017, to publish a Quarterly Statistical Summary of information on the length of time over which a reduction in benefit due to a sanction lasts.

In this report, they say for the first time, the duration of sanctions to be implemented for Employment Support Allowance (ESA) and Universal Credit (UC), Jobseekers  Allowance (JSA) and Income Support (IS).

Furthermore, they say they are working on the methodology used to calculate sanction durations.

Yet, when you look at the Government’s own headline figures, a staggering 4.4 million people have been sanctioned up to 31 March 2017 and these figures probably underestimate the true number by a further 2 million under-reported sanctions, as Government figures do not include people sanctioned more than once; people who are presently challenging their sanctions or the huge number of people who have been successful in winning their appeals.

Moreover, Universal Credit is also helping the Government to massage the sanction figures downwards.

Rest of Story here.

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Written by Andrew Coates

August 24, 2017 at 4:12 pm

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  1. They DWP are always saying sanctions are decreasing, the truth though well we know it’s increasing by the minute.

    enigma

    August 24, 2017 at 4:45 pm

  2. What we need is someone in the inside.

    enigma

    August 24, 2017 at 4:51 pm

  3. ‘I use food banks’ – workers on the impact of the pay squeeze

    With real pay falling again in the three months to May, cash-strapped households continue to feel the pinch. We asked readers to share their experiences

    https://www.theguardian.com/careers/2017/aug/22/food-banks-workers-impact-pay-squeeze-debt-employment

    If people cannot manage in work how are they expected to manage out of work?

    Supermarkets retailers are taking an agressive attitude to the shoplifting problem thats happening locally and may well be elsewhere,they know people are desperate.Last night in Tesco’s carpark a security guard manhandled a shoplifter ater pursuing him into the car park.He dropped the items but still it continued and was shoved back into the store.The local C0-Op had people waliking out the door with food also.

    I’am not going back there again after that agressive behaviour.

    The country has become expensive authoritarian and intolerant.

    ken

    August 24, 2017 at 4:54 pm

    • Security guards are getting away with manhandling, beating the shit out of, pinning to the ground, suffocating suspected shoplifters and the filth don’t do anything about it; suspected shoplifters even been killed by security guards and nowt has happened.

      Tealeaf

      August 25, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    • There is diddly squat a few security guards can do when a shop is “steamed” by a gang. It is only solitary shoplifters they take on, or as long as the shoplifters are outnumbered. By the time the cops come the shoplifters are long gone, although you still see the cops driving around for hours afterwards trying to catch them. The hungry are many, and the greedy pigs who have all the food are few.

      Steamer

      August 25, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    • We saw a woman making off with a bag of carrots (40p) in the local Tesco the other day. She went to the self-scan but didn’t scan them. When the assistant confronted her she shoved her away and threw a punch. By the time the (non-English) speaking security guard had sauntered over she was long gone.

      And have you ever noticed how many ‘abandoned’ purchases there are at the self-scan checkouts, particularly Poundland “would you like to continue with your transaction?” Lots of ‘shoppers’ just scanning and going without paying.

      The Savvy Shoppers

      August 25, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    • We have also observed that for some unknown reason most shoplifers are female, you see out the corner of your eye all the time sneakily not scanning items deliberately. Not all, but most, seen a guy ‘forgetting’ to scan a couple of cases of beer once lol Wonder how they police those handset things ‘scan while you shop’. Think you have to be a Clubcard member and they ‘randomly’ check your bag to see if you have ‘forgot’ to scan anyway. And what happened to the self-pay newspaper thingys – you took a newspaper and popped something that made a rattle in the slot lol

      The Savvy Shoppers

      August 25, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    • We used to “steam” the local cornershop every school lunchtime 😀 😀

      Geordie Lass

      August 25, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    • 40 of the Queen’s pennies for a bag of carrots! Would you Adam and Eve it? Can do you a wheelbarrow full for that 🙂

      Market Stall Holder

      August 25, 2017 at 1:37 pm

      • And have a bob left for a gallon of wallop.

        Andrew Coates

        August 25, 2017 at 4:46 pm

      • With a farthing left over for a nice little brass.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 27, 2017 at 3:17 pm

  4. What I don’t understand is why the TV companies are so uninterested in the unmitigated disaster that is Universal Credit. I really can’t imagine another time in history where any government could get away with stuff like this without being put through the wringer.

    Two-egg Omelette

    August 24, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    • Could well be that they are ”ALLEGEDLY and I repeat ALLEGEDLY” not interested as there is a franchise review coming up. This of course ”allegedly” would have nothing to do with it !!!!

      hatzaetos6000

      August 25, 2017 at 12:42 pm

  5. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    August 24, 2017 at 8:24 pm

  6. Full list of 233 firms named and shamed for failing to pay the minimum wage

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/full-list-233-firms-named-10999800

    enigma

    August 25, 2017 at 3:47 am

  7. Andrew Coates

    August 25, 2017 at 11:39 am

  8. DWP rejects PIP claimant’s appeal… before she receives decision notice

    DNS – 24th Aug 2017

    Fresh concerns have been raised about the integrity of the disability benefits system, after a disabled woman’s appeal against having her benefits removed was rejected before she was even told her claim had been turned down.

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) sent Mandy Moseley a mandatory reconsideration notice, confirming that her appeal against the decision to reject her claim for the new personal independence payment (PIP) had been unsuccessful.

    But she was astonished to receive the letter because she had not yet been told the result of her claim.

    Until a claimant receives a decision notice that informs them of the result of their claim, they cannot ask for a mandatory reconsideration (MR) of that decision, and she had not done so.

    Read More:
    https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-rejects-pip-claimants-appeal-before-she-receives-decision-notice/

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 25, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    • Common practice right across the DWP.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      August 25, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    • Everyone claiming benefits is considered to be guilty unless proved innocent.

      Two-egg Omelette

      August 25, 2017 at 4:41 pm

      • Not forgetting the employed.

        whoknew

        August 27, 2017 at 8:59 am

  9. Tories charged with Fraud resulting in death. Get’s around the Corporate Manslaughter fine.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 25, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    • Murder with intent. Tory Policy on Welfare Reform & Grenfell Tower.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      August 25, 2017 at 3:35 pm

  10. Rent rises could offset Highland Council debt caused by universal credit

    COUNCIL house rents are likely to go up as a result of rising debt levels, tenants have been warned – with the roll-out of universal credit being blamed.

    http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/News/Rent-rises-could-offset-Highland-Council-debt-caused-by-universal-credit-25082017.htm

    ken

    August 25, 2017 at 6:51 pm

  11. Jeremy Corbyn slams ‘punitive’ Tories and their ‘completely illogical’ closure of Jobcentres

    The Labour leader attacked plans to close Jobcentres and benefits offices as he addressed a rally in Coatbridge.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jeremy-corbyn-slams-punitive-tories-11056600

    ken

    August 26, 2017 at 10:13 am

  12. Google is not the only one monitoring your Internet activity. This site here, intensive activity wordpress, extracts HTML5 data which can be used to identify your computer!

    Observant

    August 26, 2017 at 11:30 am

  13. Some good news from yesterday’s Daily Heil:

    UK may have to follow EU laws on privacy and data protection for years after Brexit if it wants free exchange of information with other members. Britain could be forced to toe the Brussels line on crucial legislation on privacy and national security for years after Brexit, the government admitted yesterday.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4821444/UK-follow-EU-data-laws-years-Brexit.html

    jj joop

    August 26, 2017 at 11:48 am

    • The article on canvas fingerprinting immediately above should be of great interest to you and others on here, jj joop!

      And just when you thought cookies were bad enough!

      Observant

      August 26, 2017 at 11:51 am

      • All you need to do is to install an add-on like like Privacy Badger, DoNotTrackMe or Adblock Plus. It won’t be long before browsers themselves will be able to do this out of the box; to be honest I’m not sure if the Opera browser doesn’t already do this. I use the Opera browser with Privacy Badger, HTTPS Everywhere and the Avira Browser Safety add-ons. on a Linux Mint box, to squelch shit like this out of existence as far as third-parties go; if I feel like being especially careful clearing out cached content and cookies dumps any nonsense squired directly for first-party sites I have chosen to visit. If you’re using Windows 10 fuck only knows what data your PC is sending to Microsoft, which cannot be stopped unless you have the “Enterprise” version of the OS.

        Ball Bag

        August 27, 2017 at 9:04 am

      • Who pays for the bandwidth to send truckloads of data to Micro$oft? What is you are on a limited tariff? Who pays the excess usage charges?

        Steve Jobs (deceased)

        August 27, 2017 at 8:43 pm

      • Who pays for the bandwidth to send truckloads of data to Micro$oft? What if you are on a limited tariff? Who pays the excess usage charges?

        Steve Jobs (deceased)

        August 27, 2017 at 8:44 pm

  14. Benefit claimants in the good old US of A to be microchipped in the near future to receive benefits.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-24-all-sheeple-citizens-who-want-to-receive-government-benefits-must-agree-to-be-microchipped-in-the-near-future.html#

    Marie

    August 26, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    • Marie, yes, it is not just your computer that’s being monitored these days!

      Observant

      August 26, 2017 at 12:14 pm

      • oh dear. what will one do.

        whoknew

        August 26, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    • You know why, don’t you Marie.

      whoknew

      August 26, 2017 at 4:36 pm

  15. whoknew

    August 26, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    • Thursday, post on Ipswich Unemployed Action, “Minister silent.”

      Friday,

      “The two-page letter – one of Gauke’s first actions since he was handed the work and pensions role in Theresa May’s post-election reshuffle – suggests there is little appetite in government for softening planned changes to the welfare system in the wake of the election campaign, which saw Labour focus on the impact of austerity.”

      https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/25/david-gauke-signals-he-will-press-on-with-universal-credit

      It’s this Blog wot wrung it out of ‘im.

      Andrew Coates

      August 26, 2017 at 2:35 pm

      • The Guardian is spying on you when you visit their website. HTML5 canvas image data is gathered and can be used to identify your computer!

        Onguard

        August 26, 2017 at 3:56 pm

      • Ongaurd,

        who cares.

        whoknew

        August 26, 2017 at 4:15 pm

      • Who cares? People who know about the impact of data mining. But, of course, ignorance is strength.

        Data Miner

        August 26, 2017 at 5:45 pm

      • The people who know about it should know what to do about it.

        whoknew

        August 26, 2017 at 6:15 pm

      • I meant, those who are concerned about it.

        whoknew

        August 26, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    • whoknew – are you trying to sound very clever?

      Data Miner

      August 26, 2017 at 7:10 pm

  16. The job coach has decided this person can work 1 hour per week and for no more than 12 (twelve) minutes each day and with a 45 minute travel time to and from each 12 minute maximum spell of work each day.

    https://speyejoe2.wordpress.com/2017/08/25/fit-for-work-oh-do-feck-off/

    superted

    August 26, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    • This is the shape of things to come! They’ll be resurrecting the dead next claiming they’re fit for work too. And I only wish I was joking.

      jj joop

      August 27, 2017 at 8:47 am

    • superted

      In relation to your comments about UC on the previous thread, you might find this interesting:

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/time_limits_to_transfer_from_liv#incoming-1024865

      jj joop

      August 27, 2017 at 9:02 am

      • so they can force you on to the full service then? but what if you have no email and cant use a pc what will happen then as the above just says claim will be suspended.

        superted

        August 27, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      • My roach told me that people will be invited in to the Jobcentre by appointment to use the computers there to register. However, the second paragraph of the letter says:

        If you don’t complete all the activities to switch to the online claim by , your payments may stop and your claim may be closed.

        Note, it says your payments may stop – it doesn’t say your payments will stop. It makes me wonder about the legality of making people switch over to the online service.

        jj joop

        August 27, 2017 at 5:40 pm

      • hmmm seems well dodgy to me cant see how the data protection act can let them get away with it as i have never had to give them a email address b4 or even a phone number so how they can now force you to use a online service just dont seem right.

        tbh i dont mind them having a email address it is just when the time comes it will be sent to 3rd party providers and then what! will they be able to see the journal as well via the uc system? and then use it to sanction ppl at will with no reason why and no paper work either buy then.

        superted

        August 27, 2017 at 9:31 pm

      • Superted/jj joop

        I see the new service does not accept homeless people as the first action is enter a postcode.

        doug

        August 27, 2017 at 11:35 pm

      • jj joop

        August 28, 2017 at 8:20 am

      • superted/doug

        These two are now on whatdotheyknow.

        Adding CV to UC journal
        https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/adding_cv_to_uc_journal#incoming-1028315

        Work search evidence & the UC online journal
        https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/work_search_evidence_the_uc_onli#incoming-1028316

        jj joop

        August 28, 2017 at 8:50 am

      • I sure that I read somewhere that the DWP had advised Work Coaches, that they could not specify how Universal Credit claimants had to keep a record of their work search: people could submit written records, print outs from Universal Jobmatch, even PDFs if they wanted to. (Although they were advised to try to “persuade” everybody to use UC to do so and to allow access by the DWP to their UC account.) If this was the case in the past why should it be any different in the future since, as far as I know, the Data Protection laws haven’t changed?

        I can’t see how people can be “forced” to keep digital records of their job search, stored remotely, if they choose not to, or how they can be sanctioned for insisting on submitting their job search evidence in other ways as before.

        The bad thing about a fully digital system is that it removes the personal aspect of the system, i.e., Work Coaches get to know you personally and make allowances for your circumstances, e.g., travel difficulties etc., whereas some anonymous figure, whom you don’t know and will never meet, with no real knowledge of the area you live in, n appreciation of how hard or costly it might be to get from your home to employers, looking at your job search details will make judgements coldly and clinically and so will be very much more likely to sanction you unfairly.

        Which, of course, may well be the whole idea.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 28, 2017 at 9:32 am

      • Samuel PeePees

        I know if you’re on JSA, you can evidence your job search in whatever format you like. It clearly states that in the guidance that goes with the My Work Search booklet. With UC though, it’s a different matter altogether. The UC work search review guidance gives example of how you can provide evidence but nowhere does it say it’s up to the claimant how they pony up their evidence. At least not with the data I have, anyway.

        The new digital system is supposed to streamline the process and make life easier for claimants in general. I think that’s rubbish. I think the new system has been set up to trap unwary and sanction them off benefits. And I’m not just talking about the unemployed, either. I’m talking about anyone who is on any form of UC. A lot of people are going to be in for a big shock if they think they can just ignore the new system and carry on as before.

        jj joop

        August 28, 2017 at 12:26 pm

      • @ jj joop

        It will be terrible if Work Coaches miles away, maybe in a different country of the UK, also start recommending jobs for UC claimants to apply for with no knowledge of the transport available or local geography. An example might be a remote Work Coach in a Scottish call centre monitoring and mentoring an English job-seeker living in the far South West, Cornwall, say.

        (Shit like this has happened to me, locally: Work Coach says here’s a job only 15 miles away, apply for it. Trouble is that the job starts at 7.00 am and the earliest train/bus to the nearest terminus is only available from 6.30 am, takes twenty-minutes to get to the nearest train/bus station, is still 5 miles away from the workplace leaving a mere 10 minutes to get there on foot, which is impossible!)

        If something like THAT ever happens there will be all fuck to pay because most claimants will end up sanctioned based on Work Coach errors and stupidities. Just imagine having to have your work search scrutinised by a stranger, whom you will never meet, who knows nothing about the area or job market or transport available thereabouts, deciding on whether you are “actively seeking work” adequately and forcing you to apply for all manner of unsuitable and impossible jobs simply to keep their “stats” up and look busy.

        If that isn’t a recipe for a cold blooded mass sanctioning regime don’t know what is.

        George Orwell and Franz Kafka combined wouldn’t have been able to think shite as bad as that up.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 28, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      • Super ted/jj joop/Samuel PeePees

        The idea of the new system is to essentially do away with the need to interact with a physical work coach. While initial claims,fraud investigations, maybe reviews,etc will require a physical person, the rest will resemble a call centre approach meaning personal interactions to the level you receive now will become a thing of the past. While each area may have a team, generally even if its just one huge centre, your likely to be unaware of whom your coach is. Some of the process i suspect will be fully automated and in time to come, all of it will as things like the signing mantra could just as easily be micro command.

        I know they will be storing all you enter and while you open this account will summit you to agreeing to there data processing policy to do whatever they want. The thing is though what you summit in the way of evidence is still up to you as you can control what you type and upload so can limit what you give if they do have access.

        You see you give evidence on good faith so if DWP dispute this, then they must or you should make them say why they need more evidence. The reason for this is they legally cannot stipulate how you give evidence, all they can do is suggest. This means you back them into a corner of having to admit they suspect you of committing fraud. Now it does not take swathes of evidence for you to prove this, they can simply select one single piece of evidence for you to produce more data on so dont get into the habit of giving into there demands as they are not legally entitled to accuse/suspect you of fraud every moment your dealing with them just like the police cant. Now fraud is a criminal offense so like the police, if they fail to secure such an allegation, on the third time of failing to prove it, it is legally viewed as harassment on them which is also a criminal offense.

        Now they will hope being automated and having the power to shut down your claim,sanction,etc, will make you give in. If they claim you have to summit evidence in a certain manner, make them produce the enforceable regulation that says this along with the regulation that allows them to treat you as guilty until proven innocent (do mention the harassment law and your legal right to contact the police if they continue to treat you this way).

        All they need is a date of what you did, the job position, website or method you found it through and how you applied or what you did.

        An email is neither here nor there so give them one separate to any you use for jobs or personal (never make an email account in your real name).

        For the CV while they can make you upload one, they cant stipulate what you put on it so like UJM and other jobsites, reduce and remove personal data. Simply put your christian name, an email address that has it own email account (so no phone number). Next remove company names and dates and place a small piece of writing stating for security purposes, certain personal data has been withheld until such time as the receiver can be validated as legally being entitled to process said data and it is appropriate to do so within the confines of the data protection act.

        Remember you are legally entitled to at any time or moment to withhold or withdraw personal and or sensitive data.

        While DWP has every right to protect the tax payers purse, they do not have the right to command total authority over how you use your personal data, nor have they the right to stipulate how you present it with regards work search evidence and CVs or online profiles.

        doug

        August 28, 2017 at 10:20 pm

      • @doug

        So under UC will everything be done over the phone and email? I mean will remote Work Coaches be advising people, recommending jobs, and putting people on schemes etc., from miles away without any knowledge of the areas where their “clients” are living? That seems like a terrible idea to me because people will be sent for jobs that are impossibly expensive to get to or even impossible to get to all the time. Or for jobs that offer less reward than the cost of getting to them because these alien Work Coaches are obviously not going to get bus/train time tables out to work out travel times and costs or calculate how much Council Tax you would be expected to pay as soon as you work some hours etc. To them, just like Universal Jobmatch, distance to work will be based on a straight-line “how the crow flies” distance, which means nothing if there are no regular train/bus services, to enable you to get there on time and get home when you finish work: where I live sometimes you can’t get to the suggested place of work at all, or can get there but can’t get home, or could get home but can’t get there early enough to do the job.

        This IS going to fuck up so many people’s lives, particularly as the Work Coaches will be working based on target set by others. Oh, boy. This system is going to be ruinous , you mark my words. Everybody is going to end up sanctioned.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 29, 2017 at 6:56 am

      • Oh! And many more costs are being dumped on claimants than ever before, which have to be paid out of frozen incomes never designed to meet such expenses, i.e., phone calls (45p per minute to a UC call centre), internet, Council Tax contribution etc. The design of the new system is awful to the point of cruelty and injustice. If people think that Work Coaches in Jobcentres are bad just wait until they become remote and some poor bastard, trying to meet impossible targets, dealing with dozens or even hundreds of claimants that they have never met and will never meet, are deciding who to sanction and who is in the clear. Fuck! It is going to be absolutely terrible. Truly madly terrible.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 29, 2017 at 7:19 am

      • Samuel PeePees/doug

        I will be uploading as little data as possible, only what is necessary to ensure my claim isn’t closed.

        As for the Jobcentre sending people for jobs they can’t get to, my former work coach arranged an interview for me at the Jobcentre earlier this year with an agency who made it clear that applicants had to have their own transport to get to the site because of its location and it being shift work. I don’t have my own transport but coachy wasn’t having it. Fortunately the agency guy was a decent sort and was very good about it all, i.e. his time and mine being wasted by the JC. But there is going to be a lot more of this happening if everyone ends up having a remote work coach.

        jj joop

        August 29, 2017 at 7:23 am

      • Samuel PeePees, jj joop

        DWP arent going to change there ideology of how to treat claimants online or not, hence why i mentioned the indian call centre trick.
        You see infront of a work coach, you can justify why something isnt reasonable. Well thats not going to happen anymore meaning wrong approaches is going to escalate. Naturally DWP will blame it on computer error and will be allowed to continue and continue their foolish ways unimpeded.

        Samuel PeePees

        Ive said it enough times, employment is subject to contract. There is no legal requirement for an employer to offer one nor you accept one. A contract is only lawful if both parties lawfully consent. Lawful consent is only such if it is given in free will and not gained through force,threat or deception.

        It does not matter what DWP want as only the employer can offer you the job. Registration with an agency who supplies and pays your wages is the same thing.

        doug

        August 29, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    • I’d take that! As no job like that has ever existed in history the person affected is in the clear.

      Ball Bag

      August 27, 2017 at 9:05 am

    • Superted

      If that isnt a typo mistake then i would say this a work coach trying to do someone a favor they clearly feel isnt capable of working.

      Work coaches are powerless to state the case an health assessment is dead wrong. I imagine for fear of seeing their contract ended. Now only after a second review with another work coach would we know but MAYBE, this is agreeable to DWP as it allows them to give out less money while still doing a thatcher and benching them as no such job will ever exist that lasts a mere 12min,let alone pays a high hourly rate.

      I could go on but whats the point.

      doug

      August 27, 2017 at 1:21 pm

  17. Jihad Watch

    Interesting

    August 26, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    • Jihad Watch – is that a new chocolate bar like, innit?

      Ficko

      August 27, 2017 at 2:30 pm

  18. Labour MP says she could never be friends with a Tory: ‘Whatever type they are, I have absolutely no intention of being friends with any of them’- because she sees them as the “enemy”.

    Nor me, I know of one who I loath.

    “The idea that they’re not the enemy is simply delusional when you see the effect they have on people – a nation where lots of people live in a constant state of fear whether they even have enough to eat.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/laura-pidcock-labour-mp-tory-never-friends-conservative-party-a7910156.html

    whoknew

    August 26, 2017 at 6:51 pm

  19. Theresa May attacks ‘unacceptable face of capitalism’ WHY IS THAT AS IF WE DIDN’T KNOW.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41065485

    whoknew

    August 27, 2017 at 9:21 am

  20. So called transparency

    Brexit is being shaped by big business and banks in secret while the interests of ordinary people are being drowned out, a damning new report has concluded.

    “Unless there is some sense of transparency and accountability in this process, there is every chance that the UK Government will use Brexit as an opportunity to do away will all manner of vital protections relating to labour rights, consumer standards and the environment.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-negotiations-david-davis-corporate-banks-eu-lobbying-brussels-a7913131.html

    whoknew

    August 27, 2017 at 9:34 am

    • but… but… we will have control after UkExit… Angel Farage told us it would be so… This is Fake News I tell you… Where is Angel Farage to rescue us?

      Gazza

      August 27, 2017 at 2:05 pm

      • Angel Farage assured us that there would be no blocking of exporting food or manufacturing et al [see lowered standards on consumer standards and the environment] he cannot be wrong as we will be getting free trade with EU – he said so as we will be getting our free cake and eating it

        Gazza

        August 27, 2017 at 2:08 pm

      • Et al – is that a new chocolate bar like, innit?

        Ficko

        August 27, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      • I really wish that people could see the wood for the trees. When the UK leaves the EU it will be one country against 27 as far as negotiations are concerned. People keep saying that German and France etc., sell more to us than they buy and so will go soft on us, but what about the other 25? The deal we get won’t be able to be slanted to help the European countries who sell most to us keep on selling, because the other member states will veto any such arrangement. This is the thing. Britain is NOT in a strong negotiating position at all, it is the EU that holds all the cards. Britain can’t make any realistic threats to the EU and will, basically, at the end of the day, have to take pretty much what the EU decides to offer or drop out altogether and have to trade with the EU (our biggest trading partner) on world trade terms (disaster).

        And there we will be a dinky little over populated country less than 3% the land area of the USA, with nearly 20% of its population, all alone in the world with resurgent Asian countries like China and India on the rise.

        Basically we’re buggered, folks.

        If you think it’s bad now wait and see what it’s like in five or ten years time.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 27, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      • Samuel PeePees

        27 united countries can produce anything cheaper than 1 when combined so effectively if the UK does not start inventing things no one else does, this country at best for most workers will become a sweatshop as we manufacture other countries goods. Its not hard to see this country becoming a tax haven for the worlds businesses meaning your have to work harder than you already do just to make a living or institute more technology meaning less human workforce.

        Creating more business does no mean it equals better pay,better living, it only equals more profit for that company to payout to its investors/shareholders. In this circumstance government still get there revenue yet indian call center trick their responsibility for you. Think about how comfortable government is at encouraging immigration as an when they not the countries people needs it or did you miss that Freudian slip.

        doug

        August 28, 2017 at 12:22 am

      • Yes, doug. Philip Hammond has more or less said so in the past. Thing is the UK is negotiating from a position of weakness, desperate for any kind of quick and dirty trade deal, not from a position of strength. Britannia does not rule the waves any more and will be negotiating with much more powerful countries and blocs. I am afraid the Great Britain is going to be cut down in size. If Scotland eventually secedes from the Union what is left of the UK will become Lesser Britain, and lose the blue from the Union Jack.

        If Brexit goes badly wrong – and it looks as if we are heading that way – what you say is right and we will have a new Elizabethan age of poverty (for the many) and splendour (for the few) to suffer and enjoy.

        Samuel PeePees

        August 28, 2017 at 7:28 am

  21. Crisis at Denbighshire food bank as demand soars by 150% to record levels

    Stocks at the King’s Storehouse in Rhyl are said to be ‘desperately low’ amid a surge in referrals

    The King’s Storehouse in Rhyl has seen the number of parcels they deliver to starving families more than double from 28 to 70 per week.

    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/crisis-denbighshire-food-bank-demand-13523093

    ken

    August 27, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    • Ken

      Did you read the comments section below the article as clearly the working folk in normal jobs dont give a crap about starving UK people. They have no idea about how foodbanks work and think you can just walk in there like a free supermarket. They also think the job market is free to, that you don’t have to have the approval of an employer before being offered work.

      These people are so dumb, they actually think you can compare starvations like somehow not having food in the UK is different to not having food in Africa.Theres the reason why government ignore overwhelming evidence stating the welfare reform is causality of a lot of growing problems in this country.

      If government keep ignoring this, i predict a new spike in crime and judging by recent trends, a violent one at that so i hope these peoples smugness protects there’s and there families proverbial throats.

      doug

      August 27, 2017 at 11:59 pm

  22. Career break returner schemes launched

    Government Equalities Office is asking for responses from individuals and firms on how best to support people returning to work.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41068554

    whoknew

    August 28, 2017 at 4:04 am

  23. Thousands of the Tories’ free childcare places still not confirmed days before the deadline

    If you’re eligible for 30 hours’ free childcare, you have until August 31 – this Thursday – to apply. But many are still stuck in limbo

    The revelation is a new hitch with the flagship policy, which has already been barraged by website problems earlier this summer and repeated warnings nurseries won’t get enough funds.

    “Parents and providers experiencing difficulties or needing technical support can phone the childcare service helpline on 0300 123 4097.”

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/thousands-tories-free-childcare-places-11071161

    whoknew

    August 28, 2017 at 4:23 pm

  24. Jimmy Stirling’s DWP Diary: In the last year I’ve applied for 660 jobs and had two interviews

    https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/11596/jimmy-stirlings-dwp-diary-last-year-ive-applied-660-jobs-and-had-two-interviews

    Applying through the internet this is what can and does happen.

    ken

    August 28, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    • He’s not wrong regarding how many jobs you apply for, it matters not..

      1. these days you’ll have very little chance getting into paid employment, especially the older we get.

      2. DWP will assume you have many barriers to employment, which is the excuse for this scheme and that scheme.

      whoknew

      August 28, 2017 at 5:59 pm

      • THE GREATEST BARRIER IS THE EMPLOYER.

        When a work coach utters crap about your barriers to work, just mention this inescapable fact.
        There’s no such thing as a free supermarket where you can just take a tin of beans off a shelf. You can have the money but if you don’t have the currency the supermarket wants, you cant buy the tin of beans.

        So you can buzz word your CV, do work experience all you like as if the employer wants what he wants, you ain’t changing nothing, especially in a world where every other CV is just like yours.

        DWP wants you to mention its you at fault as there powerless to control business and are to gutless to changes it.

        doug

        August 28, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    • 660 is that all pmsl he is not trying hard enough you should see my work search i got ten years experience sat in provider offices doing it and that is my main reason i cant find employment as i have applied for every job going 100 times over.

      the advisers cant force me in to any old job part time or full time because no one will employ me now as that is what the providers wanted repeat customers to profit from and to hide the unemployment numbers.

      so the only option the dwp has to get me of benefits is to sanction me of them any way they can and i bet 999 out of 1000 ppl would just have given up buy now or had a mental breakdown.

      i guess i am doing the full service job search and apply for 50 jobs a week and have proof and in 18 months have had 3 reply’s via email no job offers or interviews.

      superted

      August 28, 2017 at 7:20 pm

  25. Hurricane Harvey: Activists seeking disaster relief donations urge public not to give money to Red Cross

    “Please don’t donate money to the Red Cross! Houston will never see it.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hurricane-harvey-latest-american-red-cross-criticised-disaster-relief-response-donations-flooding-a7917456.html

    whoknew

    August 29, 2017 at 8:27 am

    • The homeless in UK, the homeless seeking help urge the public not to give money to charities.

      Please don’t donate to the homeless charities, the homeless will never see it.

      whoknew

      August 29, 2017 at 10:42 am

  26. Foodbanks reveal shocking numbers of children in Gloucestershire who would have gone hungry without emergency food aid

    Demand at the county’s Foodbanks is soaring due to low pay and benefit sanctions

    http://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/foodbanks-reveal-shocking-numbers-children-384819

    ken

    August 29, 2017 at 10:40 am


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