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Apparently, well who would have guessed, all is not well for young people.

I particularly would not like to be an out of work young person.

The Financial Times reported this a couple of days ago,

More young Britons out of work and education

Neets who remain adrift of the system become increasingly unemployable.

The number of young people in Britain who spend long periods neither working nor studying has increased in the past year, according to a think-tank report. The total share of 16- to 24-year-olds who spent some time not in employment, education or training (Neets) declined last year, according to an analysis of Office for National Statistics data by the Learning and Work Institute think-tank, published on Wednesday. But the analysis showed that the percentage of young people who were Neet for a year or more rose from 9.8 per cent to 11.2 per cent in the first quarter of this year, compared with the first quarter of last year.

Educated myself through FE’s – both ‘O’ and ‘A’ levels (part-time) I found the report published on the 3rd of August in this journal, Further Education News, particularly relevant.

For a start the article underlines this, “Nearly 2 million young people between 16-24 spent some time NEET last year. “

Without being too rude about those providing the courses for young people I hope they are not of the order we older unemployed lot have had to undergo, thanks to SEETEC and the other chancers in the ‘Unemployed business” and do some serious stuff at FE colleges. 

NEET numbers increase as progress on youth unemployment stalls

FE News.

Progress in tackling youth unemployment has ground to a halt with more young people spending over 12 months out of education, employment or training (NEET) raising concerns over the government’s approach.

Reductions in the headline figure of NEETs are cited by the government as evidence of its success in tackling youth unemployment with the latest quarterly figures claiming NEET levels at 800,000 (11.2%) – a 68,000 reduction on the same quarter last year.

But the latest Youth Jobs Index from Impetus-PEF reveals that the number of young people who are NEET for over a year has increased sharply since they reported the figure last year.

Commenting on the findings of the second Youth Jobs Index, Andy Ratcliffe, CEO of Impetus-PEF – a charity that finds, funds and builds the most promising charities working with young people from disadvantaged backgrounds to help them become stronger organisations, said:

“We’ve just come away from an election where the youth vote counted, but our findings show there are still crippling numbers of young people not in education, employment or training who aren’t being counted at all. The headline drop in the number of young people who are neither earning or learning next to the increase in the numbers who are enduring this for over a year, confirms that we have structural problem in Britain that has not gone away.”

Using data produced by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) for the Labour Force Survey, (LFS) the Youth Jobs Index provides a detailed picture of young people’s experiences of being NEET. Unlike the LFS though, it tracks the progress of young people over time rather than giving a quarterly “snapshot”. This means that the index is better placed to track the duration that young people stay NEET.

And,

Nearly 2 million young people between 16-24 spent some time NEET last year. One in 10 young people (811,000) spent a year or more not in education or work, an increase from the 714,000 who spent more than 12 months NEET in the previous year.

The negative consequences of being long-term NEET are well known, with those affected experiencing poor mental and physical health and a reduction of £225,000 to their future earning potential.

The risk of being NEET varies depending on qualifications. Young people who fail to secure a Level 2 qualification are twice as likely to be long-term NEET. In contrast, for higher level qualifications there is only a 10 per cent risk of being NEET for six months and a 3 per cent risk of spending 12 months NEET.

Learning and Work Institute

Read more here.

These include  comments from the government which few will be arsed to read….

I have yet to find a Labour Party comment on this report.

Perhaps somebody can enlighten us about Labour policy.

 

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Written by Andrew Coates

August 4, 2017 at 4:00 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    August 4, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    • They can’t get Housing Benefit now either.

      Magnifying Glass

      August 4, 2017 at 5:16 pm

  2. “Young people who are NEET are all different. The needs of a young person who has just graduated from college or university and who’s planning their next step is very different from those of a young person who has no qualifications and has been out of work for over a year”

    Their next step.

    really, many who finish college or uni will find themselves in the same boat as those who never went to college or uni, sure those who go to college or uni plan and hope that they gain employment in their chosen field. .

    “The focus needs be on targeting tailored support to those who need it most and ensuring that the resources are in place to do this.”

    The same should be done with the DWP, rather than the DWP out to sanction everyone.

    enigma

    August 4, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    • Their all out of work.While education is important the person who has no qualifications can have learning difficulties/disabilities or another type of disability.Try to learn in a classroom is either time consuming or impossible.

      Others too can find themselves out of work for being over qualified.

      The focus needs be on targeting tailored support to those who need it most and ensuring that the resources are in place to do this.”

      The same should be done with the DWP, rather than the DWP out to sanction everyone.

      True.There is skills conditionality but in some cases the barriers are so great that this will be of little or no help even with sometimes excellent efforts.People are reffered onto this because its there not because its always the right choice,There is no guarentee that the person can achive a suitable outcome.

      The Dwp are all to often more interested in someone not arriving rather then helping,sometimes peoples behaviour is to do with their condition while on these schemes looked on as trouble elsewhere.Theres many long term signing in that group ignored by DEAs’ conditions also again ignored or not understood this falls into ripe territory for what appears in actions,avoidable appeals and outcomes.

      ken

      August 4, 2017 at 7:26 pm

  3. ot

    when on uc can they make you sign every day and not refund the bus fair?

    superted

    August 4, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    • You don’t ‘sign on’ on UC? It is flexi-appointments? Call you in as often or as little as they like? Might make you attend every day (and not refund your bus fair)?

      Universal Credit Sucks

      August 4, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    • DWP assuming your committing fraud, – another reason, making one fed up with having to be there every day then closing their claim, which many have done.

      enigma

      August 4, 2017 at 7:38 pm

  4. i dont mind going every day tbh just id want bus fair paid if not my signing day and there the ones doing fraud and letting providers get away with it again! 😉

    superted

    August 4, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    • Trying to drive more people off benefits, DWP hoping that you fail to turn up because you might not be able to afford to get there, especially with the long wait for that first benefit.

      enigma

      August 4, 2017 at 7:51 pm

      • It’s going to be bad for many people when those jobcentres close, some will have no chance of getting to the nearest one to them.

        enigma

        August 4, 2017 at 7:55 pm

      • – Many many more homeless people.

        enigma

        August 4, 2017 at 8:02 pm

  5. adviser wants me to go back on esa after my esl leave just its uc now so will have a 6 week wait i guess so fuck that.

    superted

    August 4, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    • Suprted

      Have you been to the tribunal yet?

      enigma

      August 4, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    • adviser wants me to go back on esa after my esl leave

      You should have said or else what?

      And their expertise is? Work coaches acting as medical advisors that are not qualified.This is happening all to often and is a totally shamful practice to attempt to remove people placing them on another benefit then found fit for work,Once challenged no more is often said it would not be allowed in any other outside organisation that someones untrained/unqualified opinion should dictate direction.

      You need to check that you should be on Universal Credit.A number of people have said here that they should never have been on that benefit but were placed on it never the less.

      Here is a case of extended sick leave JSA and staff reliving the old days as one put it in the early two thousand “if they are not going to find work we put them on another benefit”

      ken

      August 4, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      • You should have said or else what?

        i was told i can go on extended sick leave or sign on every day but after esl will be told to claim esa which is now uc so talking out there ass so i guess will be signing on every day till i stump up the 25 quid a week bus fair as on jsa lol.

        been there done that many times im at the end of my loop again as adviser fails and will be sent to sign on the first floor again pmsl.

        then i will get a new adviser and it starts again tho its never longer than 3 months for me anyway.

        superted

        August 4, 2017 at 11:20 pm

  6. not yet had letter 27 march. i have rang them just waiting for the date n cant wait lol

    superted

    August 4, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    • You have got them firmly by the balls, ted. 1). The ‘provider’ has been caught lying on an official form that a prior skiils assessment was carried out. 2). The DWP have admitted that they have no record of a prior skills assessment being carried out. These two FACTS alone are enough to have this heap of horseshit thrown out off the Tribunal.

      Judge Dredd

      August 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    • they did expect you to sign everyday but then on the other hand claim your in effect to ill.

      What you find at another jobcentre it could be worse (can’t see much worse) or another there would be little problems.It depends on which part of the country.If you complain they won’t reply because they know full well what their doing.A wall of silence.

      ken

      August 5, 2017 at 6:25 pm

      • they did expect you to sign everyday but then on the other hand claim your in effect to ill.

        yes.

        and i even had a job interview at the jcp the day i signed on for a job i would have had 2 ride my bike for 12 miles and work at a pub waiting food to tables.

        they know my right arm is knackered atm and on strong pain killers and cant even ride my bike 3 miles let alone 12 there and 12 back and do the job, id give it a go but most of it will be on the floor tbh 😉

        hoped id not show up look but did and had cv and id as required buy direction letter.

        i had 2 options.
        sign every day
        12 weeks esl

        with the same sick note i lost at tribunal with but as after 12 months can use it again pmsl.

        after esl adviser said go back on esa but its now uc so will say no 😉

        superted

        August 5, 2017 at 8:13 pm

  7. o and get this the tribunal is on the other side of the road as the provider is based hahaha

    superted

    August 4, 2017 at 8:24 pm

  8. […] Source: NEET numbers increase , Mass Youth Unemployment Stays. […]

  9. ken

    August 4, 2017 at 10:52 pm

  10. PIP investigation: 200 cases of dishonesty… and still DWP, Atos and Capita refuse to act

    The government and its private sector contractors are refusing to investigate claims of widespread dishonesty in the benefits assessment industry.

    https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/pip-investigation-200-cases-of-dishonesty-and-still-dwp-atos-and-capita-refuse-to-act/

    ken

    August 4, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    • Ken

      Had these claimants had recorded the interview, then i reckon the situation would have been quite different as then these companies hands could have been forced at the threat of releasing both the recording and report copy on public inline platforms such as facebook, twitter, even DNS itself.

      I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH how claimants via devices such as their phones should record any dealings with DWP, fit for work assessors and providers. By getting it straight from the horses mouth as so to speak, would prevent the likes of government, their department (DWP) and various contracted providers from hiding behind a wall of bureaucracy.

      doug

      August 5, 2017 at 6:50 am

  11. Just one in six people hit by the cruel Tory benefit cap are actually on the dole

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/just-one-six-people-hit-10925556

    Would you like to make a comment Mr David Gauke ?

    doug

    August 5, 2017 at 7:00 am

  12. The great crash – 10 years on

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40837763

    enigma

    August 5, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    • Brexit: Why ‘Project Fear’s’ Predictions Could Be Coming True After All

      As the 10-year anniversary of the Credit Crunch looms, warning signs emerge. But not everyone agrees.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-why-project-fears-predictions_uk_59844eece4b0cb15b1bdd3f4

      enigma

      August 5, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      • Enigma

        I to a remain voter stated the negatives of leaving the EU BUT we must all both remain and leave, understand the caveats which sadly most voters didn’t during there decision to vote.

        Now we are the loan wolf marketer/trader, yes we have the opportunity to strike deals we couldn’t have under EU regulation BUT even prior to brexit, it was already obvious, most of these possible countries we could have traded with had the measure of us, knew we needed them more so than they us. Now had prior deals been brokered on leaving the EU prior to any brexit, then things may, i say may have been different but i suspect not by much although i cant prove that aspect.

        History should tell people, Europe is a petty place when it comes to rivalry with us BUT more importantly geography should tell people divided (each country by itself) we each have less strength, less influence.
        Now the theory of the EU is a sound idea, sadly hijacked by un-elected individuals, those with far to many self interests and of course people with sensitivities set far to high that have perverted the course of evolution.

        It would have been a far better decision to stay BUT knock down the old EU which wouldn’t have been impossible considering the sentiment we have all witnessed by other countries in the union.

        Now i hear however it may or may not play out that there’s statements doing the rounds of a possible new referendum and or plots to ensure a stay. Doing this sadly will send out an unwanted message of weakness so for better or worse, we must all remain the course to leave. The only possible way to proceed with such an idea would be to go it alone, make a success of ourselves, then re approach the EU with a side held helping hand rather than a palms up hand out.

        doug

        August 6, 2017 at 9:18 am

  13. Young people who fail to secure a Level 2 qualification

    Many are at entry level 3 or below and that could be for a number of reasons,particularly specific learning difficulties or more life impacting global learning difficulties which is a true learning disablity.Put them in a Jobcentre environment and the outcomes are hardly surprising in todays climate.The former is classed by some as an inconvience however both are protected under law.While again some might choose to ignore their obligations,employers have to follow set rules how they provide support.

    http://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk/employer/reasonable-adjustments

    Not declaring a disability as suggested by some is unwise advice.This could also be a reason so many find themselves back on benefits.

    http://www.bdadyslexia.org.uk/dyslexic/dyslexia-and-specific-learning-difficulties-in-adults

    ken

    August 5, 2017 at 12:52 pm

  14. Conservative MP launches ‘Tory Glastonbury’ after Jeremy Corbyn’s success on the Pyramid Stage

    George Freeman thinks thousands upon thousands will attend!!

    Lets put a stop to it!

    enigma

    August 5, 2017 at 1:04 pm

    • Andrew Coates

      August 5, 2017 at 3:14 pm

      • It’s always good to hear of a victory for those who have been fighting for justice for us the majority.

        More victories welcome.

        enigma

        August 5, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    • The Conservative government and Conservative dominated coalition have been found guilty of breaking the law many times. And they always appeal and appeal and refuse to mend their ways until forced to, often wasting millions of pounds along the way. There is something very wrong when a government breaks the law of the land time after time and defies the judiciary almost every single time – even introducing retrospective emergency legislation to actually change the law in some cases. Either they don’t really know what they are doing (tick) and/or they don’t give a toss about right and wrong but only about getting their way (tick).

      I can’t remember any government behaving like this quite so aggressively and shamelessly before.

      Magnifying Glass

      August 6, 2017 at 8:21 am

    • Enigma

      I know only to well how this government has messed up the justice system but that is the worst article i have ever read describing it.

      I suppose what can you expect from the mirror as just take a look at the article on the boxer Khan. Not only are the mirror allowing an unnamed source comment (hardly national secrets stuff) who despite having a online profile CLAIMS, she didn’t know he was married like whats a computer, whats one of those mantra.

      Further to this , this unnamed lapdancer made the comment, ““I’m sure there’s two sides to every story, but she’s probably better off without him.”

      So shes sure there’s two sides to a story but unsure whether Khans wife is better off without him yet goes ahead anyway and touts the latter. So this unnamed person whom i think lied rather poorly about not knowing he was married (she obviously had access to the internet and knew more than enough about using a computer to make and keep an online profile yet not enough to know how to google search) would rather trade out of the court of opinion and belief, rather than fact.
      If the mirror had any respect, they would have never done the article based on to many question marks yet here you go.

      (For the record i couldn’t care less about Khan, im merely using the article to highlight the trash mainstream media will peddle to you that demonstrates there utter contempt for you. There reporters don’t hit the streets, they hit facebook and the likes, milk your comments, then peddle them right back at you like they actually uncovered and broke it to you).

      I would sooner read a well thought out and articulated article with bad grammar than a badly thought out and articulated one with a pulitzer prize in spelling.

      doug

      August 6, 2017 at 10:12 am

      • ames Ellroy, the American crime novelist was on the BBC’s ‘Hardtalk’ the other night saying that he has never used a cellphone or a computer. Anything is possible, not matter how improbable.

        L.A. Confidential

        August 6, 2017 at 11:20 am

      • *James Ellroy

        L.A. Confidential

        August 6, 2017 at 11:20 am

      • L.A. Confidential

        There is two phrases, off grid and air gaped.

        If you haven’t already done so, always keep an old style non smart device mobile phone. In time to come these laughed at relics will be much sort after when many of the public draw the line in having there privacy invaded. Although these phone have GPRS, dependent on model can be easily switched on or off (in some cases you can literally just switch your phone off to achieve this).

        Air gaping simply means not connected to a network whether or not its connected to the wider web. This is the electronic form of the traditional file and filing cabinet meaning the computer would have to actually be physically stolen (ports like USB,drives,etc are removed). If all businesses and governments were made to do this, the risks of stolen data, viruses,etc would be far far less damaging and aid in localizing breach while making actual bodies responsible for such a breach while it was under there watch.

        doug

        August 7, 2017 at 12:12 pm

  15. HOUSEHOLD TO WORK SCHEME

    “…specialist advisors will specifically visit vulnerable people and long-term jobseekers in their own homes across the region and will provide “tailored support”.

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/45m-plan-really-help-1600-13411979

    Why Don't They Just Create Real Jobs?

    August 5, 2017 at 6:01 pm

  16. OT: Pensions… And so they start the campaign for means testing…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40826562
    Death of retirement: Can the UK afford the state pension?
    By Paul Lewis
    Presenter, Money Box

    On New Year’s Day 1909, more than half a million people aged 70 and more, who had worked all their lives, had passed a means test and were of good character queued up at their post offices for an old age pension of five shillings a week (25p) – around £20 in today’s money.
    .
    .
    .
    Michael Johnson is unimpressed by the international comparisons. He believes we cannot afford the state pension. GDP estimates, he says, are uncertain and countries that spend more than the UK may not be able to do so for long.
    .
    .
    .
    He also believes a fixed pension age is an unfair lottery. Some would draw a pension for 10 years, others for 30, but all pay the same National Insurance contributions.
    As an example, he says, imagine two 65-year-old men, one living in Chelsea in west London and the other living in Tottenham Green in north London.
    “The life expectancy of the 65-year-old Chelsea man is around about 88. For Tottenham Green man it is about 71.
    “So Chelsea man will enjoy the state pension for about 22 years and Tottenham Green man will enjoy it for approximately five. That seems extremely unjust to me.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Policy_Studies
    Although identified as non-partisan, the Centre has strong historical links to the Conservative Party.
    President:
    Lord Saatchi

    Founders:
    Keith Joseph
    Margaret Thatcher

    ME: I will let everyone draw their own conclusions – I draw mine from who is talking, and especially the way the example is presented above. Signed poor Tottenham Green man

    Gazza

    August 6, 2017 at 4:20 am

    • Gazza

      Putting the political rhetoric to one side, lets cover a bit of familiar ground.

      Prior to 1960, the system had a high probability of working dew to life expectancy. What i mean by that is if everyone on 1909 had lived to a ripe old age, the system would have collapsed. They were trading back then on a 3 to 1, or more ratio with regards to mortality. Its important to note also it all started in deficit.

      Further to this we must consider length of life as this dictates per person required of those that did live on.

      Now days the balance is whack and truth be told, is only sustainable for each individual if they contribute the total fee required for themselves which is an impossible feat for most when you have to live and grow while getting there. People rely far to much on playing with these contributions in order to make a profit over time.

      The world works on a resource, manufacture, work and consume basis which means there is a great possibility for a margin of error like the one we are experiencing now when all factors are considered (life,death,etc).
      Capitalism is im afraid no more a success than socialism is or was because they both share the same fundamental flaw. Now i don’t advocate going back to socialism but capitalism will by virtue of long existence produce yet more flaws dew to the fact your feeding a beast whose hunger can never be satisfied.

      doug

      August 6, 2017 at 10:43 am

    • Millions of Britons are in for a nasty shock over their retirement income Says the mail online,

      No one who qualifies for the new state pension will be left with less than they would have received under the old system says The Department for Work and Pensions.

      ‘People who have been contracted out will usually have paid less in National Insurance over the years while they built up a private pension which they will also benefit from in retirement.’

      There will be state pension winners as well as losers.the Institute for Fiscal Studies, says

      enigma

      August 6, 2017 at 4:37 pm

  17. General Election Oct 2017. Lazy Theresa May can`t stop it at any cost of Tory criminal law breakers & disabled deaths. One minute silence for Theresa May`s death of the Tory party. To get me straight Theresa Mat is killing the Tory Party before the Tories start on disability Hate Crimes against disabled people. Laziness breeds laziness in the Tory dictatorship & the Tories can`t blame any one but themselves The Tories have used up all their scapegoats. There are no more scapegoats to save the criminal murdering Tories. Genocide of bullshit. Power struggles & social cleansing. I already have a Tory Mayor up on 10 criminal charges & he don`t want no media. Rupert Murdoch lives in Notting Hill perhaps he can be evicted at the Carnival like the rest of the Tory Government that live in the Notting Hill Area. One minutes silence at the Notting Hill Carnival piss off Tories. Face recognition only works if people don`t wear sunglasses & since ATOS is running the IT it is bound to go wrong !!!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    August 6, 2017 at 4:30 pm

  18. Energy review examining household and environmental costs

    Oxford University professor Dieter Helm, who is carrying out the work, said he would “sort out the facts from the myths about the cost of energy”.

    However, it will not examine whether to introduce a cap on energy bills

    The regulator said it is considering extending a price cap on energy bills to more households on low incomes.

    Consumer group Which? said the review will be “cold comfort” to many households already overpaying on their energy bills.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40839433

    enigma

    August 6, 2017 at 5:44 pm

  19. MPs urge government to delay universal credit rollout turkey.

    MPs’ letter calls for extension of universal credit to be postponed until next year to avoid people suffering Christmas hardship

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/06/labour-mps-urge-government-to-delay-universal-credit-rollout

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/06/delay-universal-credit-to-help-the-vulnerable

    ken

    August 6, 2017 at 9:05 pm

  20. Isle of Wight families hit by wait for benefits

    A SIX-WEEK wait for benefit payments has left Isle of Wight families struggling to pay their bills.

    http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/families-hit-by-wait-for-benefits-316033.aspx

    ken

    August 6, 2017 at 9:07 pm

  21. Good news for landlords as government pledges to address Universal Credit concerns

    The RLA raised concerns about tenants on Universal Credit who build arrears then move out of a property, and emphasized the inability of landlords to claim their money back.

    https://www.simplelandlordsinsurance.com/landlord-hub/news/good-news-for-landlords-as-government-pledges-to-a

    Perhaps they moved because to find work in another area.

    ken

    August 6, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    • Ken

      So the DWP’s effort to date is to talk to claimants about housing.
      It says a lot really in reference to government/DWP not wanting to have to form a solid responsible link with landlords when you consider UC is geared if a sanction is applied that effects housing benefit where no other benefits are present to deduct from (ie working less than 30 hours).

      Landlords are closest to know only to well government merely disguised unemployment figures by pushing claimants into underemployment. That while the status changes, the heavy reliance on welfare doesn’t.

      Without making assurances that the landlord will receive rents and that they wont be subject to any effects both directly or indirectly from the sanction regime and or benefit eligibility, nothing is liable to change.

      No house, no job these days so unless DWP/government take a more realistic approach to the support of claimants and actually dealing with getting employers to provide more job security in employment (more steady hours,higher wage rate,long term contracts) rather than just paying lip service while wasting millions on ineffectual schemes, everyone except employers and government will lose out.

      doug

      August 7, 2017 at 11:31 am

  22. UK data protection laws to be overhauled

    Details of the government’s plans for a new data protection bill will be published on Monday.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062

    enigma

    August 7, 2017 at 3:53 am

    • Enigma

      You already within the DPA have these safe guards so the proposal is this extending to companies outside of our boarders of law. Unless the countries these exterior websites extend from agree, i cant see what our government can do besides blocking the website but this is a veil action when you consider its easy to get around blocking and filtering.

      Another concern that even today hasn’t been ascertained let alone sorted, is, how do you know your data has actually been deleted, isn’t still years after deletion still being sold for gain/favor.
      Third party is the buzzword, third party is the real concern so don’t get smoked screened by this government as what they suggest and what existing laws offer, doesn’t extend to the second party having a legal responsibility to have to approach all third parties they have dealt with with regards your data and have them do likewise.

      doug

      August 7, 2017 at 11:54 am

    • Thanks, will follow.

      Andrew Coates

      August 7, 2017 at 12:07 pm


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