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Welfare: The Big Silence of the General Election.

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This is what I got when I asked Mr Google about Labour’s policies on welfare.

Labour plans to reduce the number of people sleeping rough by doubling the number of homes available for use by homeless people. Four thousand new flats and homes would be ring-fenced for rough sleepers in cities such as Bristol, Liverpool and Birmingham. The carer’s allowance would be increased by an extra £10 a week – a 17% increase. The two-child limit on child benefit would be scrapped. The Winter Fuel Allowance and free bus passes for pensioners would be retained.

The Lib Dems want to end rough sleeping in Britain by placing long-term homeless people straight into independent homes rather than emergency shelters, and increasing grants to local authorities to fund homelessness prevention services more effectively. The party would also reverse cuts to universal credit, and abolish the work capability assessment. The party would also introduce civil partnerships for heterosexual couples.

Enigma writes,

“On welfare, Labour says it would scrap benefit sanctions and the so-called “bedroom tax” and restore housing benefit for people aged under 21.

Now this is good but I would like more detail, specifically about getting rid of the disaster that is Universal Credit.

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Written by Andrew Coates

May 11, 2017 at 2:55 pm

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  1. As far as I know ALL the parties are committed to KEEPING Universal Credit, including Labour. I don’t know if any of them would change it or not if given the chance: it’s difficult to imagine Labour would not get rid of the very long waiting period when first applying and change several other thing, e.g.. the severity of the sanctions system, unworkable in-work conditionality requirements etc., and would imagine Labour would unfreeze benefits so they get uprated by whatever the RPI is.

    Sadly Universal Credit in some form looks set to stay.

    More tragically it looks as though the Conservatives will be back with a bigger majority and a vengeance.

    Durex

    May 11, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    • Its the welfare reform and work act that’s the problem.

      doug

      May 11, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    • There as been many people talking about changing the long wait for that first UC payment to a much shorter time period. so it just may happen.

      UC here to stay well like many other things which are going on line.

      enigma

      May 11, 2017 at 7:54 pm

  2. Central governments, like beasts have insatiable appetites, they can never be satisfied. They demand more and more, its subjects must pay more and more. More taxes, more blind servitude more blood! When people see this they will realise the beast only plunders and robs them, so we continue to ask:”what makes the public believe that central government is necessary? What makes the public think that without robbers and murderers ruling them civilization would be lost?” The beast brings poverty, sickness and lost dreams! Who needs this? Some are listening many are not. Nonetheless the struggle ahead is inescapable, we must struggle or submit to passive self destruction – an end unwitting a real Christian.

    Marie

    May 11, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    • Marie, well said! Labour, lib dems are going to do bollock all about homelessness, sanctions, WCA, etc, it’s their satanic masters who call the shots not them!

      Foxglove

      May 11, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    • Marie

      You’re find the public tolerate this because they don’t want to take responsibility for it. Be it Labour or Tory, the first thing the public do is point the finger of blame moments before electing the other in this punch and judy show.

      Tories get in again, the threshold of who they effect gets higher and bingo, another party starts to become appealing, its the same old tired crap you knows going to happen as someones going to have to raise taxes, because business sure isn’t increasing to cover things.

      doug

      May 11, 2017 at 6:13 pm

      • You’re right Doug, it is the same old tired crap! We are conned into believing that we have the democratic right to vote, but what is democracy, it’s another scam for the intention of dividing people and turning them against one another!

        Foxglove

        May 11, 2017 at 7:22 pm

      • Foxglove

        The only democracy we have is to choose which dictatorship we will endure for 5 years and its not really a democracy at that as if we all decide we want neither, the residing government stays in. Why isn’t there the vote of no confidence on ballot sheets, why cant we say your all crap,go back to the drawing board.

        Politics these days is all name calling, sound bites and no substance and the thought lies with us as we allow it to continue from one election to the next. How many people who are labour are going to vote tory just because they don’t like Corbyn rather than the manifesto. On and on this silly show goes.

        The public needs to drop its political affiliation and talk to one another on issues as all i see these days is, “you socialist”, “you capitalist” in the comment sections.

        doug

        May 12, 2017 at 8:51 am

      • Bloody Commie!

        Old Tory

        May 12, 2017 at 10:42 am

      • Doug

        Corbyn is this and that, never mind the manifesto, that’s all I hear in the town I’m in because of the amount of them, I’ve been called a revolutionary by many of them. the reason obvious!

        enigma

        May 12, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    • Marie

      Did you receive your first UC payment on the date you were told you would receive it?

      Also did you receive both the housing element and personal allowance?

      enigma

      May 11, 2017 at 8:15 pm

      • Yes I did get 1st UC payment on the date I was told and I was shocked, wasn’t expecting to get a penny.

        Marie

        May 12, 2017 at 5:31 am

  3. We can see why many people don’t vote.

    enigma

    May 11, 2017 at 7:58 pm

  4. Well no one likes to be sanctioned so removing them altogether would save millions of people from hunger and homelessness. lets face it, if sanctions continue you too will be sanctioned at some point, and more than once. set up to fail.

    enigma

    May 11, 2017 at 8:10 pm

  5. ‘Manifestos’ mean jack-shit. They ain’t worth the bog roll they are printed on. Just a load of old bollocks to garner votes. Once a party gets into office these ‘manifesto’ bollocks are soon binned.

    Load of old cobblers

    May 12, 2017 at 5:36 am

    • True. Hence student tuition fees and reorganisation of the NHS etc.

      Durex

      May 12, 2017 at 6:17 am

  6. 86% of council tenants in receipt of Universal Credit (UC) are now in rent arrears.

    http://www.propertyreporter.co.uk/features/is-universal-credit-still-failing-landlords.html

    Shockingly, the report also suggests that prior to claiming UC, only half of those households had pre-existing rent arrears and the amount of arrears has, on average doubled.

    doug

    May 12, 2017 at 9:42 am

    • It’s only going to rise until something changes, that’s if it will change in the future.

      enigma

      May 12, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    • I read somewhere that in the UK 40% of the population live hand-to-mouth and have less than £100 in their bank account. If true then four out of ten people in Britain, if they end up on Universal Credit, cannot do anything by fall into rent arrears and/or debt: the DWP often says that people in extreme hardship can get an “advance” on Universal Credit which is laughable – because it is actually a loan from the DWP which has to be paid back later, probably from meagre Universal Credit payments when the applicant finally gets their entitlements.

      Universal Credit as is can only be considered to be a cruel and ruinous disaster.

      Durex

      May 12, 2017 at 3:04 pm

  7. Listen Folks. The girls in the local brothels have more morals than some of those standing for election. At least you know how much getting screwed will cost you

    PAPPA SMURF

    May 12, 2017 at 11:20 am

  8. A fully funded NHS, education grants and services that put the public first – please do take us back to the 1970s!!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/conservatives-labour-manifesto-general-election-8-may-2017-policies-nhs-privatisation-fox-hunting-a7732216.html

    enigma

    May 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm

  9. Theresa May woos lifelong Labour voters at a community centre the Tories tried to close

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/shameless-theresa-woos-lifelong-labour-10408829

    enigma

    May 12, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    • And I bet she appealed for as many votes for the Tories as possible to “strengthen her hand” to avoid a “coalition of chaos” and guarantee a “strong and stable” government.

      Durex

      May 12, 2017 at 5:24 pm

  10. What do you think would happen if absolutely nobody voted in next months general erection, oops I mean election! The tory tosspots will still be holding the reins, that’s what!

    Foxglove

    May 12, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    • We will be doing whatever is in “the national interest” 😉

      David and Samantha

      May 13, 2017 at 7:40 am

      • It’s a simple choice – The 50’s or 30’s.

        enigma

        May 13, 2017 at 8:34 am

  11. OT?

    Universal Chaos

    Perhaps the computer experts on here can comment on the chances of Universal Credit being held to ransom?

    Interesting to note here that 9 out of 10 NHS computers run obsolete versions of Windows – despite being forewarned of the dangers!

    Cyber Dummy

    May 13, 2017 at 8:37 am

    • Was just thinking about UC being hacked this morning.

      enigma

      May 13, 2017 at 8:43 am

      • It more than likely will happen one day. People without their own internet are logging on using insecure and poorly maintained public equipment. The easiest way to fuck any system up would be to use a botnet to deluge the system with login requests leading to a denial of service; there are ways to avoid this but my bet is that the DWP hasn’t bothered to spend the dime necessary to do it.

        Pill

        May 13, 2017 at 10:28 am

      • Exactly! The DWP (and Government) eschew forward planning and prefer to leave things to chance 😉

        The Rhythm Method

        May 13, 2017 at 11:27 am

    • Some fun.

      As the NHS recovers from a massive cyber attack, Prime Minister Theresa May is announcing plans to make Britain “the safest place in the world for people to be online.”

      enigma

      May 13, 2017 at 9:10 am

    • Fake news as Donald Trump would say no doubt. NHS databases are not stored locally on desktop computers; they are stored remotely on a server. Some idiot opening an email from “Anna Kournikova” containing “ransomware” will have had no effect since nothing is stored locally. The whole thing reads like an advert from Micro$haft to upgrade to spyware-ridden Windows 10. XP is a fine operating system and any ‘backdoors’ that are discovered were placed their in the first place deliberately by Micro$haft working on behalf of the three-letter agencies.

      Kayvan Novak

      May 13, 2017 at 9:28 am

      • “upgrade” as in downgrade. That is why the civil service (Jobcentre) still uses XP and Internet Explorer 6. Even the self-service till run mostly on Windows 2000, some on XP.

        Kayvan Novak

        May 13, 2017 at 9:31 am

      • Supposedly the “Enterprise” version of Windows 10 allows users to completely disable Microsoft from spying on pretty much anything you do when using the OS. If you install something like Glasswire on a Windows 10 machine you will see that Microsoft is gathering hundred of megabytes of data on you every time you use the machine for a few hours. What is this data? Microsoft won’t say. Fuck that! Governments would be much better using a customised version of Linux, which their own programmers ought to be capable of building, using a customised version of the Debian kernel. Or maybe NetBSD which is very secure. Windows XP was withdrawn from service in April 2014, although Microsoft – for a hefty fee – supposedly offered extended support to business users beyond that date. Obviously they weren’t diligent enough. Microsoft are a shitty company anyway and I have no idea why anybody would want anything to do with them given a choice.

        Pill

        May 13, 2017 at 10:37 am

      • Kayvan

        Reading up on the background to the current chaos, its being spread once inside the network (thank you NSA, for knowing and exploiting this and then having it stolen via a hack) Via computer, and server to server communications.

        You really couldn’t make this up.

        I bet there’s a lot of people/companies/countries a bit unhappy with the NSA right now…

        Gazza

        May 13, 2017 at 8:28 pm

      • So it just sneaks in through the router/firewall??

        So how come if you are hiding behind Windoze Firewall and a bog-standard ISP router none of this shit ever slips in? But the NHS, the fifth biggest employer in the world lets this crap in?! Unbelievable!

        You can test your system for leaks here:

        https://www.grc.com/

        Shields Up

        May 14, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    • I’m sure that British women are thrilled by the computer chaos. Private information about their sexual health along with other info that could identify them on open Exeter the database the NHS introduced so it would be able to keep forcing us to have smear tests. Our details haven’t been private since 1988!

      katrehman

      May 15, 2017 at 6:28 am

  12. enigma

    May 13, 2017 at 8:57 am

  13. “Have they learned anything from their previous (IT) disaster”? – quote about “paperless IT” in the NHS (cf the digital by default Universal Credit)!

    Here is a useful site about the world of IT called “The Register” – with the slogan “Biting the Hand Which Feeds IT”:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/

    And a link to a piece on Universal Credit – which is described as a “Mega, Mega disaster!:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/14/universal_credit_mega_cockup_was_the_coalitions_npfit_margaret_hodge/

    Cyber Dummy

    May 13, 2017 at 9:11 am

  14. And here is a report for real IT experts to feast on:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/13/wannacrypt_ransomware_worm/

    Cyber Dummy

    May 13, 2017 at 9:29 am

  15. Still not getting I.T

    There’s nothing that can be said about this latest attack that hasn’t been said before so its a lesson of tough love as the Tories once said this time around.

    Have you ever seen a ransom attached to a filing cabinet and if you could, how effective a spread rate do you imagine that would equate to. You only have to think back to the days of VHS tapes, piracy and its then footprint to know being on the net today creates opportunity like never before. We don’t live in a world of ifs anymore, we live in a world of when’s and this is precisely why personal data should be outlawed from being connected to the net. A refusal to do so sends a clear and loud message that business comes first and the public are just collateral damage yet again.

    If a space rocket blows up on launch, we don’t then continue to send the same type up hoping one will work in the mean time while working on a revised correction yet we are doing this regarding I.T every single day.

    This aside, i like others want to find out where it originated from. Stuxnet originated from America so where will this one lead us.

    doug

    May 13, 2017 at 10:10 am

    • Thing is, doug, why aren’t NHS computers being properly backed up? With up to date backups and SQL Server logs it should be possible to roll back the systems to a state prior to the attack with very little loss of data. Presumably government doesn’t consider the cost necessary provided the risks are negligible. A bit like air-plane and car companies knowingly selling vehicles which they know will sometimes fail, as long as the failure rates – and associated injuries and deaths which occur – cost significantly less financially to the companies than putting known and potential faults right in the first place.

      Pill

      May 13, 2017 at 10:42 am

      • Pill

        For a definitive answer ask Jeremy Hunt and the now government who refused a year or two ago to overhaul the system.

        That aside look at what this is and who it is worth something in terms of cost. This wasn’t a case of theft or as is currently believed, it was a case of disruption which in business costs time and money. Dependent on the member of public effected, this could also be the case.
        When we talk about an organization the size of the NHS with input output electronically at massive rates, you just cant expect real time results. Further more the more often you traffic, the greater the risk to interception when going off site because your developing a trend, a predictable pattern as so to speak.
        Finally while your personal data is priceless to you, its worthless to a minister or relevant authorized body who already has unfettered access to it.

        If we stay with health data, its highly unlikely, well use to be until this government closed hospitals,centers,etc, that you will end up in a hospital away from home. This means it isn’t imperative to group all our data in the cloud just so it can be at finger tip reach from anywhere. We use a phrase called air gapping and without going into it, this is the approach needed. For instance and being conventional, why cant an A&E just ring a mans local hospital to find out what drugs he may already be on, why not mail test results, why not keep records on one system that’s a local network and download only via say a removable drive so the two aren’t permanently connected,etc.

        Security is a myth when you understand how electronics works so its a case of slinging up door after door, after door and thus making extraction ultimately tedious and adding physical requirements to separate this procedure will localize the breach and aid use in catching the offenders who would now require like killing someone, have to make a physical effort and appearance unlike now where they can be on a beach millions of miles away using only fingers as so to speak.

        doug

        May 13, 2017 at 11:28 am

      • CYBER ATTACK – *NO MONEY TO UPGRADE THE 20 YEAR OLD OPERATING SYSTEM

        ‘So, the NHS multi-trust hack is due to the fact that there has been *NO MONEY TO UPGRADE THE 20 YEAR OLD OPERATING SYSTEM*…

        SO, thanks to consistent underfunding by the Tories, our computers are so old the OS cannot be patched. Our computers do not work properly at the best of times!’

        https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2218056/cyber-attack-no-money-to-upgrade-the-20-year-old-operating-system/p2

        enigma

        May 13, 2017 at 12:40 pm

      • As it says in theregister article these malwares are invariably introduced by some idiot opening a dodgy email attachment. Idiots shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a computer. Over here is Russia we still run Windows XP with no problemskis.

        Click me!

        Anna Kournikova

        May 13, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      • annakournikovanude.exe 😀 😀

        Anna Kournikova

        May 13, 2017 at 3:28 pm

      • And as for XP it doesn’t hide known file extension by default unlike the newer operating systems. So when you see annakournikovanude you don’t know if it is the innocent annakournikovanude.jpg or the deadly annakournikovanude.exe.

        Anna Kournikova

        May 13, 2017 at 3:33 pm

      • Anna Kournikova

        Although ransomware usually gets delivered via the dodgy email, this instance was an exploit requiring no assistance. Now i haven’t had time to read the data but this seems like an auto executable like an x active subsequently setting off .exe’s from what little i have read.

        doug

        May 13, 2017 at 5:12 pm

      • The hack was done by means of a Server Message Block exploit that had been known about and patched by Microsoft on newer versions of Windows subsequent to Windows XP. Well, not patched on XP until now, when it’s too late the damage having been done.

        Pill

        May 13, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      • Severe disruption expected to job-searching activity as jobseekers turn on their library computers after the weekend as the ransonaware virus continues to wreck havoc.

        Onion News

        May 15, 2017 at 6:52 am

  16. Courts hand gig economy another blow

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/12/gig-economy-ecourier-admits-denying-courier-employment-benefits

    We’ve waited and waited and waited, yet the gig just keeps growing without any government intervention to protect workers rights. Ian Duncan Smith, the then welfare minister even had the audacity to suggest this is what the public want flexibility in work while simultaneously putting in place with the blessing of government, in work requirements under the welfare reform act to look for more hours and or more pay or face removal of in work benefits.

    So listen when at an interview, ask contractual questions and even study very carefully the contract before signing it, especially when registering with an recruitment agency. There’s plenty of easy to understand material online to aid you in understanding what your classified as. Use this so if the potential employer wont change your status, you wont sign the contract citing its not mutually beneficial. A contract does not have to be written so remember its how your treated while at work that with the aid of online classification that will ensure employers cant sidestep your rightful rights.

    doug

    May 13, 2017 at 10:43 am

  17. enigma

    May 13, 2017 at 12:44 pm

  18. Moolah Moolah Moolah

    Yes, it’s all about money!

    Here is Vox Political on the NHS ransom case:

    “Already the accusations are flying – that the Conservatives, well advanced in their ‘stealth’ plan to privatise the NHS by bringing in private companies to bid for contracts and starving the public service of funds until it collapses, have been reckless about online security”.

    http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/05/13/theresa-mays-tories-invited-cyber-attack-on-the-nhs-because-they-wouldnt-pay-for-upgrades/

    Momey Money Money

    May 13, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    • You only have to look at contract tender for the NHS in the Tories last five years to know most contracts went to private for profit firms.

      Their not stealthing as its not like you cant check this stuff out. They are blatantly lying/misleading and pushing it through as fast as humanly possible right in front of your faces. Remember all Cameron said was, “free at the point of use” which it still would be when your all paying mandatory health insurance.

      doug

      May 13, 2017 at 5:28 pm

  19. ken

    May 13, 2017 at 1:31 pm

  20. The Conservatives say they want to give people the power to demand social media companies delete any embarrassing content they posted as children. – Ms Rudd said further safeguards were needed to ensure that “inappropriate” content from yesteryear did not become a hindrance for people when they starting applying and being interviewed for jobs.

    The Conservatives also want to make it easier to conduct business online, by introducing the right to insist on a so-called digital signature as a replacement for signing a contract by hand.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39905091

    enigma

    May 13, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    • This whole idea makes baked looked half….

      Andrew Coates

      May 13, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    • You put anything on the net and its immortalized sitting on 100’000s of archive servers courtesy of harvesting bots. So they can create a false sense of security if they like.

      As for digital signatures, they can be faked infinitely easier than the physical ones so if there going to take this road, why bother, why not simply allow implied consent via the send button as its all worthless.

      doug

      May 13, 2017 at 5:35 pm

  21. Pressed the wrong button on an Ipswich library computer and the bloody thing blew up, would you Adam and Eve it.

    Ipswich Library User

    May 13, 2017 at 3:38 pm

  22. The Modern Slavery Act, not worth the paper it was written on.

    Gangmasters snare almost 4,000 new UK victims and put them to work as slaves.

    More vulnerable children and adults were consigned to a life of misery in the vice trade or doing unpaid labour.

    The list goes on and on – and, in total, 3,805 people were found to be possible victims of exploitation in 2016.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gangmasters-snare-4000-new-uk-10415996

    enigma

    May 13, 2017 at 8:11 pm

  23. enigma

    May 14, 2017 at 9:09 am

    • enigma

      May 14, 2017 at 9:10 am

      • Meanwhile

        The Lib Dems, meanwhile, are offering a cash incentive to engineering and technology graduates who sign up for the armed forces.

        Party leader Tim Farron said the £10,000 “golden handshake” would help address a “critical skills shortfall” in the services.

        It would be paid to recruits who committed to serve for five years.

        enigma

        May 14, 2017 at 9:34 am

      • Enigma

        It will be interesting to see if someone would take a poor salary with risk to life over a well paid skill short sector where you get to go home every night.

        Now we know the offer of free holidays does not interest them, ” ie, see the world crap “, i wonder if the new slogan is going to be, ” if your going to go out,do it for your country, not a Friday night ” or ” die in the service of your country, not in a pool of your own vomit”.

        doug

        May 14, 2017 at 12:34 pm

      • Doug

        More and more people know don’t they. although it’s another option, especially these days.

        enigmai

        May 15, 2017 at 4:22 am

      • Enigma

        You join the armed forces because your driven to serve your country, to do as you would assume, your bit as a British citizen. The problem comes however when you realize your just a tool, that when you finish your service and leave, its as though it never happened. People use to recognize ex servicemen yet now days, just like you called it an option, people just view it as a job no more significant than any other non serving role.
        There was a time when public service meant something, that it was advocated as a passage to being identified as a true British citizen.

        If that wasn’t bad enough,what is it your attracting, what is that persons perception. We know government want more engineers but what for and could it be roles older people could do over 29 years of age, any roles not on the front line,etc.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 7:36 am

      • Doug

        I joined up because I wanted to, I didn’t do it for my country, I wanted to go everywhere even war. I didn’t end up in war.

        Is it not an option to hunger and homelessness?

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 8:47 am

      • Enigma

        Well just step on this landmine please, go through all the suffering of years of medical assistance, then ask yourself that question. Also ask yourself, what do you think David Clapson would say ?

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 9:10 am

      • Your against the armed forces, difference of opinion, no worries.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 9:14 am

      • Enigma

        I am ex armed forces, i also was with inland revenue and did work for racal among other contractors to the forces and up till 2006, was attached to UK force wide police doing engineering for them not to mention the health trust,fire service,city and county councils. Even as a child i was a military cadet and my father was from the REME.

        Like you i wasn’t directly a part of a war we engaged in but i was attached to one in the 90s. So im through and through or if you like, longest way up,shortest way down.

        My problem is people who provide public service for this country (so not just armed forces) aren’t appreciated and remembered enough. Im also a realist so besides stating the armed forces is a good life, i don’t kid people into thinking its all cushions and kittens. It requires a certain kind of human, its not a job, its a calling so the last thing you need is a person who suddenly wakes up in the middle of a conflict only to wonder where hes mummy is (pocket mums). Its a well oiled machine with enough against the odds problems without having one of its gears throw a spastic because it isn’t like that in COD.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 10:32 am

    • Enigma

      I would add in general terms the following :

      Declaration of tax refunds over 1mil by business and what for (yes I am looking at that 130bil in benefits business gets off our backs the tax payer)
      Taper the benefits paid to businesses so business has to start paying rather than the state
      Ban contact between anyone connected to a politician, of whatever type is aide, family etc except on official lines (its how secrets and back door deals are struck up)

      Gazza

      May 14, 2017 at 10:26 am

    • Trouble is Labour have absolutely no chance of winning and are probably going to lose dozens of MPs next June.

      Pill

      May 14, 2017 at 2:49 pm

  24. Foodbank Users Reveal The Sheer Desperation That Left Them With No Other Option

    ‘What happened to us could happen to almost anybody.’

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/foodbanks-reality-living-off_uk_591599c1e4b0031e737ceee3

    ken

    May 14, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    • “What’s sad is that it’s 2017 and it’s like the olden days – begging for food” she knows it too.

      enigma

      May 15, 2017 at 4:11 am

    • Many people will have sky TV, flat screens and the rest, but going to a food bank for the first time they will not have those things for long unless they climb back up.

      Lets hope that twat loses his job, starts selling everything he owns then having to ask for help. not forgetting every other person who thinks they will never need help from someone else

      enigma

      May 15, 2017 at 8:27 am

      • Enigma

        Its a slippery road don’t you think when the public consider a person should sell there wears just because there unemployed ?

        I use to have everything, sold it all bar my computers. Now i cant afford when working to replace it, i just cant do on £7.50 an hour what i use to do on £19. I don’t want debt (paid outright for all i owned), no one should have to accept debt yet everyone working is on it yet some how claim because their working and you are not, that their more deserving despite living beyond their means.

        This like the comment “i pay your dole”, ive looked into, tested this working public and low and behold there fool of poop again.
        TV type subscriptions are down, most people are on the net, not viewing MTV via sky. Desktop and laptop sales are down, most people now use their mobile phone.

        Unemployed people shouldn’t have a phone – How do you call up a potential employer who asked you to, how do you search for work ?

        When put to these people, they stumbled, then stuttered, it,it,it shouldn’t be an iPhone then. Then i tell them iphone sales are down and anyway the phone comes free with a contract, silence fills the air.

        Unemployed shouldn’t have 52 inch TVs – You can pick these up as old stock in sales for around £200/300 so assuming got on credit that’s usually interest free for the first year that’s around a £5 a week and considering you have it for years, not year (lets say 5 years) it cost spread out £1 a week.

        Should have conventional TV, not sky – Most buildings now don’t have digital aerials or ones that work so the cheap free view box isn’t the option. The only way outside of that is the internet,cable or sky.

        When put to people they state they have movies and sport. I say other than the two people you know of, can you state how many unemployed have this type of subscription. Silence followed by no. I follow up with did you know, sky and virgin TV service sales are down now everyone’s on the net and again silence follows. I then say what if they got no aerial what then, to which they always say read a book. I mention as our government clearly states we are going digital by default, how is reading a book going to help to which they say it will teach them how to use one. I then say so if i give you a haynes manual, are you going to be able to fix your car or will you need to refer to the book while doing it. You can imagine that illusionary wall comes tumbling down because they say you shouldn’t have internet either or a computer not to mention most cant afford one. I like to cap it off with what do you see the most of these days, people watching TV or people with their faces and fingers ploughed into their phones.

        Unemployed people shouldn’t have expensive clothes – So not being smartly dressed isn’t a requirement these days, people don’t judge a person on appearance.

        Its yet another prime example of people opening their mouths before engaging their brains especially when like accusations of welfare fraud, its mostly untrue for the unemployed and mostly perpetrated by working claimants or claimants who live with someone working telling officials they are not.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 9:51 am

      • I’ve had to sell things too to survive, I don’t wish anyone to lose their jobs because I know what it means but those who think as I’ve said, the unemployed or anyone on any kind of benefit should just go without, and onto sleeping on the streets.

        Those people who talk down to the unemployed just because they happen to be unemployed make me angry. I’ve just told one of them this morning what I think of them. to be honest I’ve never had to before however due to what is going on these days it won’t be the first and last time.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 10:44 am

      • Big TVs and other consumer junk don’t count for jack shit on your expenditure pie-chart. Most people’s biggest expense is rent/mortgage then food. According to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation is costs at least £50 a week to feed one person.

        Say you buy a big TV for £200, you could have it for at least five years; that is like 76 pence a week.

        Tee Vee

        May 15, 2017 at 12:13 pm

      • Subscription TV will go the way of the landline.

        Tee Vee

        May 15, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      • You can buy a satellite box to pick up FTA (free-to-air) channels. Although Sky are trying to pull a Micro$shit and introducing their own LNB (Low Noise Block, the part of the dish that the received signal is focused on)

        Tee Vee

        May 15, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      • Tee Vee

        You need a digital aerial for a free to air box. A lot of properties don’t have them or ones that work. The cost for one of these far out weighs the initial payout for cable or a dish. Dishes and aerials require yearly alignment dew to bad weather. Sky’s is free, aerial is not.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 2:16 pm

      • doug

        You can get free-to-air satellite boxes too. Sky doesn’t own the Astra satellite – it just rents space on it. You are confusing Sky with satellite. You can watch satellite without forking out to Sky.

        Skyhawk

        May 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm

      • Skyhawk

        If you already have a dish sited previously that is and again not something landlords spring for as part of a property for rent. Also it assumes your property is in a position to have one sited as,
        A: You can legally only have it on your residential boundary (ie, dish sight location requires siting on back of property but you only occupy the front).

        B: There isn’t anything blocking signal sight like a tree, a taller and close building for example.

        Then theirs the cost of realignment, sky’s is covered under the agreement, personal installation is not. A dish is not like an aerial, you cant just move it about to tune into a sat when you consider the signal stream is around the size of a ball in a ball point pen.

        Lets also imagine you fancy having a go at it yourself. You need a reasonable cordless drill,masonry bit, large stable ladder, cable,dish, F con, wall plugs and something like a promax so there’s a cost to contend with initially. Then there’s does this person have the ability to climb high up a ladder and drill,install a dish physically. Did they get a socket attachment for the drill or are they going to do it by spanner. Thirdly 28.2 degrees isn’t a compass bearing so if you don’t have other dishes nearby, how do you know where to start looking for the signal. If there is a tree or building close, how do you know your get a signal passed it. Is this aware its easy to get a signal through a tree in winter yet impossible to receive come summer. How about understanding signal propagation. I know my comms, its one of my many engineering skillsets and Ive seen DIYers make a right hash of it, hell ive even seen engineers make a hash of it.

        If you happen to have one on your rented property and its aligned correctly its definitely an option but this does not mean we can apply this to every case just like we cant when it comes to aerials and i really shudder to imagine a DIYer getting on a roof untrained.

        So with all things considered firstly cable is the best and most pragmatic solution followed by sky and there’s no arguing the toss if you don’t like i said have other things in place and can afford to have them aligned at least once a year to maintain good strong signal strength.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      • First rule of installing a satellite dish is to look where your neighbours dish is pointing as a rough guide, just like you would do with a TV aerial.

        And to fine tune it you can pick up one of these bad boys for under a tenner.

        Satellite Signal Finder

        DIY Roofer

        May 15, 2017 at 3:39 pm

      • This bad boy has even got a backlight so you can do your dish installing in the dark 🙂

        DIY Roofer

        May 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm

      • DIY Roofer

        Its all very well showing a picture of a signal finder but your ignoring the cost of the other equipment required people generally don’t have. I know loads of people who have these yet they still always come ask me to look and solve things when the reading they get isn’t the signal they receive.

        You could go on all day posting pictures and how to’s, your just not going to see many people doing it or getting good results for various reasons and like i said, if you haven’t the stuff then the initial cost just isn’t on the cards for unemployed people unless your suggesting they waste there benefits on them which is counter product to the whole point of the discussion.

        If the digital aerial or dish is there great,save your some bucks but if it isn’t then we are only assuming that the source is there just like government assumes people have money to fall back on when waiting for UC to be sorted out. Ive said it enough times, assumptions aren’t facts, there beliefs.

        Plus why bother when you can just watch anything on the internet including movies besides doing way more things than watching TV provides. TV is so yesterday in people minds, even kids given the choice between internet or TV select internet.

        I commend the do it yourself approach, the self reliance manner, i wish more people were that way but the truth is there not and businesses like sky and virgin know this as they know they can out price aerial companies on installation and maintenance.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 5:10 pm

      • Back in the day of ‘National Assistance’ you had to sell all your worldly goods in order to claim benefits. You would allowed to keep a table and chair at most. We used to pass sticks of furniture around the back alleys from house to house when the ‘assessor’ was doing their rounds 😉 This was ‘luxury’ items such as wardrobes and chest-of-drawers; there was no 52 inch flat-screen TVs and electronic gizmos back then.

        Old Timer

        May 16, 2017 at 12:07 pm

  25. Severe disruption expected to job-searching activity as jobseekers turn on their library computers after the weekend as the ransomware virus continues to wreck havoc.

    Onion News

    May 15, 2017 at 6:53 am

  26. Culprits and who stands to gain from the cyber attack

    I read police and authorities are searching the globe for the offenders but something stinks about this latest attack that doesn’t fit the mould.

    With have received no acknowledgment from hacktivists to highlight how vulnerable we are, its only targeted old systems, only of the MS kind so a money generator its not and is completely indiscriminate in its foot print (who it targets). If you wanted to make money while not attracting to much attention, you don’t launch the entire globe and you definitely don’t attack major facilities like the NHS.

    This appears to me to be designed to disrupt. Ransonware is hardly a new invention, businesses are very use to this so a reinstall of the OS (or remote disinfection from isolated drive/s) and a download of backup will be a matter of course rather than rush to pay a ransom knowing full well no key is coming.

    The last figures shown, while installations of windows 10 has grown, windows 7 remains the favorite with windows 8 behind. Now interestingly XP use has dropped although dew to specially made programs, many businesses still have it in place. Businesses are more likely to back up their data than personal users.

    A lot of people, me included hate windows 10 so the up take really boils down to does it supply something that gives you no choice but to switch. In my case its DX12 which if i didn’t need for future endeavors would have seen me never stop using windows 7, easily the best OS since XP pro. Because i also have thousands of pieces of certain software Linux isn’t an option for my particular use.

    Now without doubt the biggest winners/gainers here is MICROSOFT ,who consistently want people to be on windows 10. Microsoft also gain with 10 in that they can see all your stuff unlike previous systems, this gives them a major footing in the biggest industry on the net which is other peoples data. If we were to say globally its illegal to gain such data, the majority of money made from the net would simply disappear. Then there’s the governments that while independent MSEs on the net say hell no to handing over data, the likes of Google and Microsoft are only to happy to accommodate them which means they can get at your data long before encryption and VP,etc. When you add facebook and twitter, the largest media tools in the world along with outlets such as you tube,snapchat,etc, any government has its cake and eat it regarding data. Again these outlets are only to happy to bend over for government.

    So weighing up everything, its highly unlikely this has anything to do with a lone gunman/group or criminals, it just does not fit the mould even if governments offer up a patsy.

    doug

    May 15, 2017 at 8:25 am

    • Turning a minus into a plus

      We were all glad the likes of Snowdon told us all about the NSA and the likes, even the leaks from hacks yet dew to this recent attack, we see governments and mainstream media attempting to place the blame on the hackers rather than this agency not only making such a program but also failing to tell microsoft when they did to get it patched. If there’s one thing governments in the west hate, its that the public praise the likes of Snowdon and leaks rather than hiss in accordance to their governments wishes and often denied practices.

      Remember we don’t torture, drones have killed very few innocent civilians, we don’t and cant spy on everyone ?
      How about going smaller Hillarys admission there are no more emails, the DNC rigging against Berner Sanders, John Podesta links with Russian government yet still being allowed to serve Obama ?

      At every level governments and politicians have proved they lie through their teeth again and again and again to the extent its impossible to separate them from criminals. The problem with that though is while criminals go to jail when they are caught, absolutely no one swings when governments and high figure politicians do it.

      doug

      May 15, 2017 at 8:43 am

      • Dont be surprised

        If MS offers people with old operating systems FREE windows 10. The issue however like the problems our government is having, is how easy is it to migrate old specially designed programs over and above all whether this is possible or they even need a new rebuild, whats the cost to industry and whose going to end up footing the bill (ie tax payers and consumers).

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 9:01 am

      • I’ve tried many times to install a different operating system on my pc, there isn’t any other which will install on it. win 8.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 9:17 am

      • Enigma

        What do you mean you cant install another operating system ?

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 9:53 am

      • Doug

        Enigma might well be running into the clever brick wall Microsoft insisted be built into all new PC’s, in the interest’s of Security mind (their security in truth). I understand the following can cause issues:having Win8/10 already installed means some PCs will refuse to install an alternative operating system. Also, the new improved (here it comes…) BIOS on modern PCs means for safety and security the main modern operating system (read Win8/10) won’t allow an alternate operating system to be installed as ‘you might’ be trying to copy stuff you should not – ,or doing something MS might frown on like installing free Linux Mint.

        Gazza

        May 15, 2017 at 10:53 am

      • It’s my computer and MS, even the live ones don’t work, I know what I’m doing when installing, I’ve read a lot regarding installing a different op system because it just won’t happen. I won’t have win 10 either but no doubt that will install.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 10:54 am

      • Cui bono – who benefits? Micro$oft Inc most certainly to the tune of $BILLIONS. As well as hardware providers such as Intel. Oh yeah, and those ‘hackers’ 😀 😀 whom according to the BBC have made £20,000 so far.

        If Micro$oft can’t ‘nudge’ they will brute force you.

        Steve Jobs (deceased)

        May 15, 2017 at 11:31 am

      • Your not wrong Gazza, Asus transformer T200TA.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 11:35 am

      • Anti-virus companies are known to release virii into the wild so it is very possible that Micro$haft are indeed responsible.

        And Micro$haft have some cheek crippling the BIOS to prevent alternate operating systems being installed. And this the very reason why older systems/operating systems are kept active until they die a natural death: because anytime you deal with Micro$haft you just know you will have shit to deal with. If it works – just leave and bollocks to Micro$haft and their “safety and “security” horseshit.

        Micro$haft Sucks

        May 15, 2017 at 11:42 am

      • On an XP system you can install Windows 7 side by side. And on the boot menu you will have an “Earlier operating system menu”. For any teckies out there the 7 installation puts a boot loader on the XP partition for WIndows 7.

        IT Expert

        May 15, 2017 at 11:48 am

      • “Earlier operating system” option on the menu.

        IT Expert

        May 15, 2017 at 11:49 am

      • This doesn’t appear to be the case if you “upgrade” from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Micro$haft will expire your WIndows 7 license automatically after 31 days. Micro$haft is beyond outrageous.

        “If you upgraded your current PC from Windows 7 to Windows 10, your Windows 7 license expired 31 days after the upgrade. (Note: Microsoft defines the Windows 10 rollback period as “a month” in much of its documentation, and some support sites say 30 days, but we confirmed with Microsoft that it’s 31.) An update version of Windows 7 won’t work either.”

        IT Expert

        May 15, 2017 at 11:57 am

      • Enigma

        Have you tried using another storage device to download your chosen OS either as ISO or convert on a pC to ISO on like a USB., then in the BIOS/UEFI select your primary boot device as USB ?

        What have you tried and what is it that makes you think its failed to permit you to change your OS ?

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 2:36 pm

      • I’ve done all that Doug, spent many hours on it.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 2:45 pm

      • Would locking a computer’s BIOS to a Microsoft WIndows + operating system not be illegal and in breach of competition rules? It is like ‘locking’ a mobile phone to a specific network.

        EU

        May 15, 2017 at 2:48 pm

      • Microsoft WIndows 8+

        EU

        May 15, 2017 at 2:49 pm

      • Enigma

        Was the computer cheaper because it is ‘locked’ to Micro$shit? You should be able to install whichever OS you want on the disk drive, never mind the BIOS being bolted down.

        EU

        May 15, 2017 at 2:52 pm

      • All PC’s and laptops that come with Microsoft Windows 8 and 8.1 pre-installed have been purposely altered by Microsoft’s Windows 8 or 8.1 Operating Systems so they can forcefully lock down the Hardware Manufacturers UEFI BIOS in order to prevent you from installing any other operating system such as Linux.

        Hmmn… Is This A Microsoft Brute Force Tactic?
        Is this illegal?

        No worries! Here are the super easy instructions to unlock your Windows 8 or 8.1 PC or laptop’s UEFI BIOS so you can have your freedom back to be able to install Robolinux or any other operating system you desire.

        There are several ways to access Windows 8’s boot options menu. The easiest one to find is in the PC Settings application – by pressing the WinKey+C to reveal the Charms bar located on the right side of the Windows 8 screen. Then click Settings, and select Change PC settings to access it.

        While in the PC Settings application, select the General category and click the Restart now button under Advanced startup. Your computer will restart and you’ll enter the Windows 8 boot options menu, where you can access the UEFI BIOS and change other settings.

        Simply look in your BIOS for the UEFI lock and adjust it so it is unlocked, then the next time you boot, you can load your BIOS by pressing the key combination that your hardware vendor uses such as pressing the delete or F-2 function key several times during boot up. Please consult your PC or laptop Manufacturers manual to find out what key combination they use to access the BIOS.

        At long last you are free to choose what operating system you prefer to install!

        https://www.robolinux.org/g-faq/20.html

        EU

        May 15, 2017 at 2:56 pm

      • Enigma
        May I suggest you come to the darkside and join linux mint?

        In google just type in bios install workaround (put motherboard her in””)

        Or just download a mint install iso, put on dvd, boot up snd se if its usable. .

        Any pc/laptop I own MS $ is going to get rubbed first thing

        Good luck

        gazza

        May 15, 2017 at 2:58 pm

      • It wasn’t any cheaper EU. it is the first computer I have had which prevents me from installing whatever op i want.

        There are many people out there who have the same problem.

        enigma

        May 15, 2017 at 2:58 pm

      • Enigma

        Did you fully understand when i said ISO as just putting the program on a stick wont work.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image

        Try this links advice before reading on

        https://www.asus.com/support/faq/114958

        Secondly all Microsoft did was cut the timeout on the bios as its still unix based. So you should be able to pop out the CR2032 battery, count to ten and bingo, total MOBO reset. Now before you do this however know your MOBO so you can download prior the required flash (use to be called that but now you can do it from a USB stick). You need to flash the BIOS/UEFI after a reset as it may be missing updated or new elements required to be able to allow your hardware to function.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm

      • doug

        Burning ISOs, flashing BIOS… All these ‘workarounds’ are time-consuming an a royal pain in the arse though and not really for noobies. What if your old gran wants to install Linus Mint on her new PC? Nobody should have to go through this shit just to install an os of their choice on a computer they paid good money for.

        And don’t pull the plug when the BIOS is being flashed 😉

        System Engineer

        May 15, 2017 at 3:54 pm

      • And if you are installing an os the image has to be bootable

        http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-makebootablecd.htm

        System Engineer

        May 15, 2017 at 4:03 pm

      • There are two boot methods: BIOS and UEFI. The latter often uses a thing called “Secure Boot” which you need to disable if you want to install other operating systems. You ought to be able to install Linux, as a second operating system, alongside Windows, on pretty much any machine once Secure Boot is disabled. (Very modern machines sometimes have problems.) Google or Bing about it on the web to find the ins and outs.

        Pill

        May 15, 2017 at 4:30 pm

      • System Engineer

        You can already get a lot of downloads in ISO form and as for your gran, im not aiming at her, im talking one to one with enigma, not giving out open advice to an audience.

        As for flashing, its actually really easy now unlike the old days, so easy and far less risky these days infact,even your gran can do it.

        doug

        May 15, 2017 at 5:19 pm

      • Flashing is very easy 🙂 Even you gran could do it 😀

        Knickers

        May 15, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    • Cui bono – who benefits? Micro$oft Inc most certainly to the tune of $BILLIONS. As well as hardware providers such as Intel. Oh yeah, and those ‘hackers’ 😀 😀 whom according to the BBC have made £20,000 so far.

      If Micro$oft can ‘nudge’ they will brute force you.

      Steve Jobs (deceased)

      May 15, 2017 at 11:30 am

  27. For those who think there is no point in voting. or those who don’t know how.

    16 pages.

    https://dpac.uk.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/United-Response-Easy-Read.pdf

    enigma

    May 15, 2017 at 9:28 am

  28. DWP declared a ‘leading’ Disability Confident employer, despite UN rights violations

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has been declared a gold-standard employer of disabled people under its own much-criticised scheme, despite being found guilty of “grave or systematic violations” of the UN disability convention.

    Among the UN’s conclusions was that DWP ministers had “regularly portrayed” disabled people as “being dependent or making a living out of benefits, committing fraud as benefit claimants, being lazy and putting a burden on taxpayers”.

    http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-declared-a-leading-disability-confident-employer-despite-un-rights-violations/

    ken

    May 15, 2017 at 11:34 am

  29. Workers facing a decade of falling living standards (bosses won’t be dishing out any more money while the peasants continue to accept the excuses that are making the greedy rich much richer)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39917285

    Marie

    May 15, 2017 at 12:24 pm

  30. Interesting quote (from a report about sanctioned diabetic man who had leg amputated):

    “punishing people who are already experiencing hardship cannot possibly “incentivise” them to look for work, since we know that if someone cannot meet their basic survival needs (such as the physiological necessities of food, fuel and shelter), then they cannot meet higher level psychosocial needs, including looking for work”.

    https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2016/09/09/man-with-diabetes-had-to-have-his-leg-amputated-because-of-benefit-sanctions/

    Nameless

    May 15, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    • i.e. you can’t start looking for work until you have security of food, fuel and shelter. Then again, the DWP in their infinite wisdom still expect the homeless to look for work. So maybe Maslow got it wrong!

      Maslow

      May 15, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    • Diabetes (Type II) adult onset is wholly preventable. This was shown on Channel 4 a couple of weeks ago. The reason they are all obese, dropping dead with heart attacks/strokes before they reach even 30/40, having amputations is because they are eating shite as they freely admit. Grown adults drinking sugary drinks and all sorts of assorted muck. Sugar, is poison. Also watch out HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) or glucose-fructose syrup as it is known in the UK.

      Dr Gillian McKeith

      May 15, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      • Right Twit Dr Gillian (why are you a bloke hiding behind a womans name? – mut be a ConMan in disguise, frequent Oxford at nite?)

        Explain as receiving below subsistence money on benefits how to afford healthy eating.

        Good luck squaring that circle.

        gazza

        May 15, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      • I refuse to take advice from a coprophiliac female who gets off by smelling and inspecting human shit.

        Pill

        May 15, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    • Unreported World:

      Samoa and American Samoa have the world’s worst obesity rates. Unreported World reveals how they’re flooded with unhealthy food and fatty offcuts considered unfit for human consumption elsewhere.

      http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/on-demand/65524-007

      Dr Gillian McKeith

      May 15, 2017 at 1:37 pm

  31. Food ,shelter and fuel are on the bottom rung of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. You won’t get far in life if all your energy is expended on fighting for you most basic of needs.

    Maslow

    May 15, 2017 at 1:24 pm

    • It’s best to be healthy, nourished and alive before you self-actualise. On the whole. Most times.

      Pill

      May 15, 2017 at 4:32 pm

    • Foxglove

      There’s so much going on in Europe regarding whats happening to citizens in the wake of migrants that mainstream media refuses to cover, even officials opposed to it have been told to remain silent.

      Im glad you keep up with the real news the likes of facebook and youtube are trying to cover up as fake/right wing stuff. Its mad because i speak to people all over Europe socially so its not likely people wont mention it even if it keeps getting removed from online.

      Theres something very odd about all this hush hush.

      doug

      May 15, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    • The UK should follow suit. Seize all the private property and turn the UK into one giant council scheme.

      Council House

      May 15, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    • These poor landlords will be forced to stump up a fortune for these ‘renovations’ and then, you know what, their property will be trashed.

      Ex-Landord

      May 15, 2017 at 6:50 pm

  32. It won’t be to long before shit like this starts happening here.

    Marie

    May 15, 2017 at 5:21 pm

  33. I

    I Glover

    May 15, 2017 at 6:03 pm

  34. “rampant political correctness”

    I Glover

    May 15, 2017 at 6:07 pm

  35. “If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. […] Men might not get all they work for in this world, but they must certainly work for all they get. If we ever get free from the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and if needs be, by our lives and the lives of others.”

    — Frederick Douglass, Aug. 4, 1857

    Frederick Douglass

    May 15, 2017 at 6:43 pm

  36. Red Labour

    May 16, 2017 at 10:34 am

  37. Marie

    May 16, 2017 at 12:17 pm


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