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Welfare Reform, “not only cruel but chaotic.”

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Social Injustice Warrior. 

Despite the fact that none of the main political debate has been about the future of work, unemployment, the dole, and the central issue of Universal Credit, which affects millions, stories keep cropping up

These are a number of articles that have caught people’s attention  in the last few days.

Ken highlights this one:  Universal credit doesn’t reward hard work. It makes the most vulnerable pay.  

Universal credit is, for example, already proving transformative for the claimants forced into new and desperate levels of poverty as a result of its six-week in-built delay before the administration of a first payment. Last week anti-poverty charity the Trussell Trust reported a 6.4% annual increase in administration of emergency food bundles at their food banks, with areas where universal credit has been fully rolled out showing referral rates at double the national average. In response, the trust has called explicitly for a reduction in waiting times.

This payment delay is only one feature built into the design and administration of universal credit that is already having a dangerous impact on claimants, particularly those already marginalised in myriad other ways. Take, for example, the stipulation that the benefit must be paid to a single head of household rather than to individual claimants. While this may reduce administration efforts and complications for the DWP, whose IT systems have already been dogged by universal credit-related glitches, it is also effective in disempowering women.

Enigma has brought up the issue of ‘self-employment’, which a Radio Four documentary, amongst other sources, has looked into (The Self-Employment Paradox).

Self-employment and the gig economy.

Conclusions and recommendations

The welfare safety net

2.Companies relying on self-employed workforces frequently promote the idea that flexible employment is contingent on self-employed status. But this is a fiction. Self-employment is genuinely flexible and rewarding for many, but people on employment contracts can and do work flexibly; flexibility is not the preserve of poorly paid, unstable contractors. Profit, not flexibility, is the motive for using self-employed labour in these cases. Businesses should of course be expected to seek out opportunities and exploit them. It is incumbent on government to close loopholes that incentivise exploitative behaviour by a minority of companies, not least because bogus self-employment passes the burden of safety net support to the welfare state at the same time as reducing tax revenue. (Paragraph 19)


Today the Guardian publishes this: which indicates that Theresa May could not give a toss about welfare.

Welfare reform is not only cruel but chaotic. Theresa May must address this

The most charitable interpretation of Theresa May’s evasive responses to questioning on the impact of the government’s social security policy during TV appearances at the weekend is that on this topic she is clueless. She appears to have no idea what is happening in the chaotic new world of universal credit and the lower benefit cap. One might advise a little more prime ministerial curiosity: as the gruesome details emerge it is clear that the George Osborne-Iain Duncan Smith-era welfare reform, largely left untouched by May so far, is shaping up to be one of the great Conservative policy catastrophes.

It is a shame the imminent general election has forced the Commons work and pensions select committee to curtail its inquiries into the impact of these two policies before reaching a formal conclusion. But May could still read the evidence submitted to the committee from claimants, welfare advisers, housing associations and councils, which is brutally clear: the benefit cap is not just strikingly cruel but, predictably, an abject failure on its own terms of getting people into work; and that universal credit continues to be as expensively dysfunctional, poorly designed and complicated as many feared it would be.

Unsuprisingly, the committee heard that benefit-capped claimants were experiencing “drastic and abrupt” cuts to their income as a result of the new lower benefit cap limit of £20,000 a year (£23,000 in London). No surprise there. Instant impoverishment is supposed to be a cunning “incentive” to force people to move into work (freeing them from the cap) or into cheaper housing. Yet in the real world, too often claimants can’t work even if they want to – they have small children and no accessible childcare; they are ill (and in many cases have been found unfit to work); or there is nowhere cheaper to move to.

For these people, like the capped mentally ill woman in Dorset cited by Shelter in its evidence, the only practical options are debt and starvation. “In order to make rent repayments,” Shelter writes, “[our client] stopped eating and had lost so much weight that she was down to six stone.”

It will not surprise anyone familiar with universal credit that the 150-plus evidence submissions to the committee about the government’s flagship benefit reform programme raised a “near unanimous set of concerns” about its day-to-day operation. Briefly, these are: design flaws that make universal credit a turbo-generator of claimant debt and rent arrears; and profound problems of access caused by its digital-only nature, both for claimants trying to sign on or report changes, and for advisers and landlords trying to rectify its numerous faults and glitches. Cuts have stripped universal credit of the financial incentives that were originally meant to get people into work or work more hours, while design hubris has created an unresponsive system that, far from simplifying the benefits system, appears to have added fresh layers of complexity and delay.

Surveying the mess, committee chair Frank Field MP noted acidly: “Changes that actually did save money and help the strivers get into proper, gainful employment would be very welcome, but that is not what we are seeing.” Ministers might also note that the inquiry evidence suggests these policies actively undermine their aspirations to reduce homelessness.

To be credible as a social justice warrior, May needs to offer more than weary cliches about work being “the best route out of poverty”. The reality is much more complex, and as a start requires a measure of acceptance that, in its current manifestation, welfare reform – costly and largely ineffectual – isn’t working very well.

There is a simple answer to that one: she is a social injustice warrior!

The regional press has some proof on that one: Rugby & Lutterworth Observer.

Demand for emergency food in Rugby rises again (today)

ANOTHER huge rise in demand for emergency food supplies in Rugby has been blamed on government benefit reforms by volunteers at the town’s Foodbank.

The Foodbank says demand has rocketed by more than 60 per cent this year – and cites the rollout of Universal Credit as a major factor.

More than 4,000 emergency food parcels were distributed in 2016 – 30 per cent more than the previous year – with a third going to children.

But a further increase was recorded in the last six months, meaning foodbank use has increased by 61 per cent over the last 12 months.

Issues with benefits were the primary reason for getting help in 42 per cent of all cases in the last year, up from 36 per cent.

Foodbank manager Diana Mansell said: “It is deeply concerning we are still seeing an increase in the number of three-day emergency food supplies provided to local people in crisis in Rugby over the last year. The trend over the last six months has been particularly concerning – a 61 per cent increase compared to that of the previous financial year is very worrying.


Written by Andrew Coates

May 2, 2017 at 3:02 pm

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  1. Tory scum continue to deny disability payments.



    May 2, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    • “The government says since Pip was introduced, more than 2 million decisions have been made – of these 7% of cases have been appealed against and 3% overturned”.

      7% of 2 million is 140’000 and 3% of that is 4’200. According to a leaked document 65% of cases are over turned meaning 91’000 cases.
      Now a spending of a million a week on these cases lends itself more to the latter so i really would like to know where DWPs figures come from.


      May 2, 2017 at 9:11 pm

  2. I am afraid that the government won’t take any notice of anybody while it thinks it can get away with treating people who are not important to them badly. My bet is that, after the next general election, the next government won’t pay any attention to the conclusions of the Work & Pensions Committee inquiry into Universal Credit and will just steam roll forward leaving it to local authorities and charities to pick up some of the pieces and take up some of the slack.

    Arse Featured Magee

    May 2, 2017 at 5:13 pm

  3. Hagface May doesn’t need to be clued up on UC, the benefit cap etc because the only intention of the dried up old bitch is to implement the life wrecking welfare disasters.The destruction caused is of no consequence to the traitorous shitbag!


    May 2, 2017 at 5:31 pm

  4. Arse featured magee and foxglove you are both correct UNFORTUNATELY… 😞


    May 2, 2017 at 5:53 pm

  5. Tenants on benefits ‘discriminated by mortgage lenders’ – claim


    Cant see this situation improving when these people find out that under UC, that housing benefit can be sanctioned.


    May 3, 2017 at 7:27 am

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    May 3, 2017 at 8:43 am

  7. The Welfare bill is now 50 times what it would have been before the Tories welfare cuts. Tories are criminals & control state sponsored murders through the DWP.

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    May 3, 2017 at 8:48 am

  8. When a dictatorship gets depression, it gets over confident, which means mistakes & desperate times for the Tories trying to control their depression, which is the general public. Brexit & Universal Credit was doomed from the start. The Human Rights Breaches the Tories are doing are illegal & Criminal. Since there is not Dodgy Dave`s Bill Of Rights the Tories have to leave Europe, not the UK people but the Tories to cover up their Human Rights Breaches & State Sponsored Murders through the DWP. Tories are shitting themselves for being charged for UN Breaches & Human Rights Breaches. Tory Hate Crime is rife & will murder anyone who gets in their way on the DWP called DWP Assisted Suicide.

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    May 3, 2017 at 10:54 am

  9. Yes Tories – Jeremy Corbyn was born in North Korea. Tory Propaganda that is made up of bullshit of the most desperate kind.

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    May 3, 2017 at 10:57 am

  10. Tory voters hate Theresa May.

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    May 3, 2017 at 10:58 am

  11. 40,000 DWP deaths since 2010. A proud Tory record.

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    May 3, 2017 at 10:59 am

  12. The Tories are not a political issue but a Human Rights Issue.

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:00 am

  13. Suicide !!! Now call the police DWP to get people sectioned because of DWP Assisted Suicide to save your Tory arses.

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:02 am

  14. Tory Suicide !!!

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:02 am

  15. UK becoming the insecure job capital of Europe, study suggests

    TUC study reveals the UK has seen significant growth in insecure forms of employment compared to other EU countries.

    The study, commissioned by the TUC from the National Institute for Economic and Social Research (NIESR), warns of relatively weak legal protections and poorer access to benefits for those in bogus self-employment, agency work and on zero-hour contracts.



    May 3, 2017 at 11:54 am

  16. Marie

    May 3, 2017 at 4:49 pm

  17. ken

    May 3, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    • Ken

      Loved that article you linked to, especially yet another figure (161’000) to go with the ones i posted above regarding cases going to tribunal and being overturned.

      That figure is more than the amount of people DWP quoted as just going to tribunal let alone having it overturned. If i work backwards with the figure and call it this 65%, this would mean almost 250’000 people (12.5% of 2 million). Also remember governments like to round figures so that 2 million could be higher.

      I don’t suppose anyone has the figure of pip assessments where the claimant got the points to stay on PIP, how many got reversed on RM and how many DWP reversed at tribunal before the panel would have reversed it ?


      May 3, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    • Ah! But do you want Brexit to be negotiated by a “strong and stable” government or to hand things over to a “coalition of chaos” and take a punt?

      Arse Featured Magee

      May 4, 2017 at 3:15 pm

    • Unfortunatly this is the direction the country is heading.

      The Tories are plunging the country into isolationism and using patriotism as a tool.The EU are the new battle against the unions the modern day Argentina as result there is the potential for serious long term consequences to relations with mainland Europe.They dont care about anything or anyone or the damage done only their message our way or no way.Its happened before in Europe the rest is history extreamism has resurfaced shown by attacks aginst groups in society.

      The Tories are the party of division and hate this has lead to dispair who are caught up in this web of poison.The country appears weak to Germany and France and the Tories cannot handle that even tough themselves are to blame over the years for decline selling state assets and failing to invest.Their living in a WW2 past and whos listening?

      You cannot believe a word they say.

      The morale is at an all time low under the Tories.


      May 3, 2017 at 7:36 pm

  18. If you commit a crime, no criminal court in the UK is allowed to make you go hungry as a punishment. But if you’re late for an appointment at the Jobcentre, they can remove all your income and leave you unable to feed yourself or your family for weeks at a time.



    May 3, 2017 at 6:58 pm

  19. Tony Blair once had a dream


    May 3, 2017 at 7:57 pm

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:50 pm

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    • Saw on Facebook.

      Personally I prefer White Cider with greasy chips: the acid goes right through ’em.

      Healthy like….

      Andrew Coates

      May 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:51 pm

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:53 pm

  24. Theresa May`s nervous breakdown June 7th 2017. Theresa May can`t say any thing unless it`s scripted by Lynton Crosby the PR failure.

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:56 pm

  25. Theresa May is going to bomb Europe & hard working families in the UK if you do not comply with the dictatorship which is proving to be a failure.

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:58 pm

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    May 3, 2017 at 11:59 pm

  27. HaveIGotNewsForYou‏Verified account @haveigotnews · 9h9 hours ago

    Nation cheers as Theresa May makes a stand against foreigners interfering in elections.

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    May 4, 2017 at 12:01 am

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  29. BBC: does the right hand know what the left is doing ?

    Are Britons falling out of love with booze?

    Violent crime ‘moving into homes’

    Is news at such a large spectrum now that it cant be vetted through the common sense method. Here we have two stories published by the BBC that conflict. One says alcohol is down, the other up.
    Yes you could argue one is in the broader sense while the other is regional but how do you explain seeing more drunk people in the day and the millions come Friday and Saturday night ?

    No im not seeing people prop up the bar on water or soft drinks and im still seeing people get tanked before going out.

    The same could be said about crime. They say its down yet im seeing violence, murder and theft both in the real world and the virtual one every day and that’s just in my area which is considered not a hot spot for crime like Birmingham,Nottingham,Manchester or London. How do we explain our prisons being overcrowded while thousands still go to court everyday ?

    Changing the measure game,fudging figures, even using stats full stop has completely skewed what is real and what is not. So why worry and vet what is real and fake when all it is, is some individuals/groups perspective ?


    May 4, 2017 at 8:08 am

  30. More than half of Britons are dependent on the state. That is too high.
    (A wicked wind is coming if the Tories win again).


    Now the first thing that strikes me is according to the DWP/HMRC, only 20 million people are receiving at least one welfare benefit and that around 13 million of these are pensioners. That’s around 31%, a far distance from 50% so where exactly is this person getting the other 19% ?

    He uses the words “net dependency on the UK State”, yet drifts straight into welfare. He completely ignores despite getting people into work from unemployment that most of those people are either paying no tax or little dew to poor pay rates,hours and insecurity of job. He also ignores the fact what with little money means less spending power, meaning less VAT revenue for the government. This means the pool of people actually paying any relative tax and NI is shrinking,especially with the rise of the gig economy and its ZHCs and rise of self employment that isnt really self employment and does not produce any revenue in the way of tax and NI on any value.

    Daniel Mahoney is in short a clueless twat as please note rather than offer a solution simply leaves it at the next government needs to do more. I don’t doubt he has ideas but i suspect there all about throwing the bottom half under a bus as so to speak financially and medically.


    May 4, 2017 at 8:45 am

    • Nothing about automation/robots, but of course not.


      May 4, 2017 at 11:54 am

      • Enigma

        I can remember who said it here but they were bang on when they said they were living in the past.
        You see even though benefits and social housing,etc have been around longer, what happened after the WW2 was never meant to be eternal. The country was suppose to pick up and by now see us all self sufficient. Sadly the crumbling of the great British empire is the part of history that leaves the likes of Daniel Mahoney wondering why there math never adds up.

        The last century and even those before allowed this country to aspire to the heights it did what with holding control over a quarter of the entire planet at one point. We have nothing now, most of our businesses are foreign owned or invested in, we don’t have really any clever people anymore and even when we do they swept up instantly by the likes of the USA.

        So we never got away from the financial leg up after WW2 hence the throw you under the bus attitude by getting everyone off welfare hook nor crook, closing these departments and ushering in total insurance schemes so if you fall down, they can say its your fault, you knew the game.

        Your already beginning to see it now what with the introduction of not supporting a third child and no housing benefits for under 24s. There stealth it in again and again, you watch as they know not only can they not guarantee secure work but also the pay level required to stay above the threshold. So there drawing lines in the sand.


        May 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      • As for automation/robots.

        You see everyday DWP pushing people into jobs that have no secure future, handing out only training in those very same areas. You also see if you want out the hole then you have to take a 24 plus advanced learners loan so its obvious why they don’t have to mention it.

        They don’t give a rats ass about the lowest tier, they either want you so become a debt monkey or just die and are with every day further complexes on how you haven’t done so already.

        Remember that sentence put to a claimant recently, “why haven’t you taken your own life yet” ?


        May 4, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      • Doug

        More and more people are finding out about that sentence every day, as I’m in the local food bank I see the eyes of those who appear in there, many of them just staring at the walls, we all know what many will be thinking. those who never thought they would need the help of food banks.

        While many more people are being sanctioned I continue to inform them all that they can appeal and show then how, I’ll never stop.


        May 5, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    • The CPS is, of course, VERY pro Universal Credit.

      Arse Featured Magee

      May 4, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    • No mention of the fact that the richest 10% of households own 40% of the nation’s wealth I suppose?

      Arse Featured Magee

      May 4, 2017 at 3:17 pm

  31. This is where Universal Credit is propelling us.


    As social housing diminishes and private landlords stop renting properties to benefit claimants where the heck are benefit claimants supposed to go? What are they supposed to do? Will we end up with mass homelessness with families living semi-permanently in hotels and bed and breakfasts? Shit! This is grim.

    Arse Featured Magee

    May 4, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    • Posted about this the other day where lenders are stipulating to borrowers for properties that there not allowed to rent to people receiving UC.

      Obviously its to do with the new rule about avoiding making people homeless dew to explainable arrears. Basically if such an event occurred, this would mean the lender would also have to accept the delayed payment from the landlord. Considering they make more on interest of loan if this did happen, it makes you wonder how tender there lending position is.

      I get not that i condone landlords not wishing to rent to people on benefits (both working and not working which is what UC is and do remember the claimant is not obliged to inform the landlord that there unemployed or in insecure poorly paid work) but lenders, that’s a whole kinda something else of an important matter.


      May 4, 2017 at 5:22 pm

      • Frozen levels of benefits and the current UK position of rising inflation its hardly any wonder theres going to be a shortfall in rents under the failed out of touch no thought to consequences pretend the world of work Universal Credit.

        The Tories are good at one thing thats creating chaos.It all leads to additional burden and adds to behind the scenes costs its the aftermath.

        There appears to be more people on the streets when traveling through towns and cities.In Oxford theres destitute people and sleeping bags at the feet of tourists,people are living rough.No one should have to live like that today but in Tory britain thats one thing certain.


        May 4, 2017 at 11:11 pm



    Now SUPER TOP MARKS to the morning star as i had completely forgotten about this scandal back then and even worse as i think i last remember thinking about them was back in 2011, had no idea they were still advising the British government.



    May 5, 2017 at 9:03 am

    • Michael O’Donnell and his link to ATOS and Maximus


      For any that don’t know or had forgotten like me, Mr Michael O’Donnell originally held a high position at Unum insurance (read the link in my previous post) then moved to ATOS, then Maximus (didn’t know myself he went to Maximus).


      May 5, 2017 at 9:17 am

      • America first.


        May 5, 2017 at 11:31 am

  33. The Benefit cap and the rising number of people who find themselves homeless.

    Nearly 50,000 low-income families caring for an estimated 126,000 children are at risk of serious financial hardship after being trapped for the first time by the lower benefit cap, official figures show.

    More than half of the families hit by the cap will face a shortfall of over £50 a week as a result of the cap, which limits the level of benefits payable to unemployed households. About 13% will lose between £100 and £150 a week, while more than a thousand households will lose between £200 and £300 a week.



    May 5, 2017 at 12:04 pm


      Has anyone considered what the cost to the monthly pay packet it will be to foot out for your pension,healthcare and welfare insurance ?

      Walk into any hospital or check any welfare expenditure lists and topping the charts for dependents is the old and families with kids. So what better way to totally sink the NHS and force the public to accept privatization than to remove more funding from these groups. I will state a claim i strongly suspect the triple lock is definitely going to go as like the benefit cap, it kills two birds with one stone.

      Healthcare insurance in the USA makes huge amounts of money, bucket loads and rises as regular as tides.
      Currently in America 51% of the population earned less than $30’000 (£23’166), 41% earning less than £20’000 (£15’444). The so called greatest country in the world, no wonder the leech American corporations are over here polluting the minds of our politicians/governments.

      People scream about terrorist attacks yet fail to realize we are attacked by corporate America by the second, promising so much yet only to the so many few with the influence to put their greedy schemes into practice.

      The population of America is currently 325.98 Million of which 124.57 million (38%) work at least 35 hours a week and 91.80 million (28%) being unemployed.


      May 5, 2017 at 1:32 pm

      • EFFECTS OF FOREIGN WORKERS (How both them and us are all being turned into sheep n cattle)

        Now while the public have been sidelined by stories of stealing benefits and healthcare, oh what a burden, behind in the business scene, lenders have been only to happy to jump on them while others get them signing up to various service contracts (phones,entertainment,etc) and of course insurance.

        Government haven’t been in any hurry to expel them as like ive said enough time, they generate revenue. Government doesn’t have to care who gets a job, they still get the taxes,still get their VAT. Ontop it allows new money to be printed off the backs of loans while also allowing businesses like say insurance for instance to either freeze rises in fees or reduce them. Its basically spreading the load.

        If youve noticed with all this refugee business, they are only coming to capitalistic countries such as the west yet nowhere near places like China,south Korea,Japan,etc. They don’t as you would imagine want to remain close to home such as Turkey for example. This is all so telling that these people are being coerced. rather than coming up with the idea themselves.

        I even told you a while back about the mobile sweatshop whereby foreigners are encouraged even from Europe to work abroad and how this increases productivity while maintaining the NLW by getting two jobs done that use to take two people for the price of one worker by telling them a certain task takes 15 minutes when infact it takes 30 minutes. With encouraging study and stay degree tactics while inciting every UK citizen should get one, they also assist in helping businesses push down wages for skilled trades as degrees are ten a penny with every passing day.

        We are all being played for suckers, makes no difference if your working or not, English or not, the greedy capitalists are still pushing their agenda whereby we will all live like communists while they all live like kings.


        May 5, 2017 at 2:17 pm

  34. OT; Homeless land report

    Just popping in hoping everyone is okay.
    A little update – Solicitor now agrees something very wrong is going on – we have indications of a little fraud against the gov going on and the other body involved like Prenda Law, just does not know when to stop digging

    Would recommend anyone in this position to approach Crisis – its not quick but it is comprehensive.

    Take Care


    May 5, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    • Gazza, I was wandering how things were going since your last visit.


      May 6, 2017 at 11:29 am

  35. What does it say about a country when they vote for this evil cow.


    May 5, 2017 at 5:43 pm

  36. try this from the olds UM. (if its OK)


    May 6, 2017 at 12:25 am

  37. Them Tories are slippery customers.


    May 6, 2017 at 10:18 am

    • Yer a bit oily and greasy yerself, Durex!

      Dutch Cap

      May 6, 2017 at 3:29 pm

  38. Charity demands better support for the UK’s 6.5 MILLION unpaid carers,

    They demand? from those who lie to the majority, so won’t get anywhere with their demand.

    Doesn’t this charity know where we are all heading


    May 6, 2017 at 11:19 am

  39. We are heading for the New World Order.


    May 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    • To right Violet,the indications are ever present in our daily lives,but unfortunately most people are completely unaware!


      May 6, 2017 at 12:50 pm

      • It’s very difficult trying to inform anyone who lives in their own little bubble, that’s for sure.

        But we can always keep trying.


        May 6, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    • Well the old world order was complete shit so perhaps the new one will be better.

      Dutch Cap

      May 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm

  40. The shock election of a Tory councillor in Scotland’s poorest community has led to questions over whether voters got confused between two candidates who have the SAME name.

    The Daily Record reports that the decision to vote in a Conservative flies in the face of Tory austerity policies and cuts to benefits.



    May 6, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    • This is what really gets me, the millions of people who have had their lives made worse since 2010 yet the Tories win, somehow.

      What’s their next trick.


      May 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm

      • The tories are placed into power Enigma,by the very evil whose ultimate aim is to destroy us!


        May 6, 2017 at 2:32 pm

  41. In town for a coffee today, talking to a few friends, someone at the next table – “why is there many people walking around town? there’s a lot of jobs for them all” so I asked a friend for a pen and piece of paper then went up to that person and told them I had two jobs but wanted another so asked them to let me know where these jobs are, they didn’t like that though. I continue!!


    May 6, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    • Yep. There’s a lot of urban myths that ignorant people believe, often because they want to believe the worst about others. So I’ve heard “Anybody unemployed is unemployed because they want to be because there are plenty of jobs for everybody that want them” and “Did you know homeless people get ten pound a week from the government, on top of other benefits, to pay for food for their dogs” and “Why give so much money in benefits to the poor, they only waste it on drink and cigarettes” and stuff like that. We all know that none of this is true but as long as people half-believe in the nonsense the Tories can continue to abuse the poor and blame them for their misfortune.

      The Coil

      May 6, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    • Enigma

      You should have said to them if that is true then their also saying this government failed to get people into work and if they do you could have followed up with then how do you explain how this government got nearly a million into work.

      These people either don’t know or have forgotten, perhaps deliberately that DWP vet a claimants work search every sign on period, put tons on work focused schemes even sanction people for not doing enough to find work.

      These people don’t want to have to admit getting a job is not like walking into sainsburys and picking a tin of baked beans off a shelf, that the greatest barrier to work is the employer who is the total make or break to anyone getting work. They don’t want to admit employers are so picky what with hundreds even in some instances thousands of applications for a single position. That they will instantly pass over anyone whose disabled,ill, single parents, long term unemployed, often even before arranging interviews.

      No, if there was loads of jobs and anyone could get one, that employers weren’t ignoring certain groups, that it was just a case of can only pick one applicant, we would all have a job by now as employers would have no choice but to accept such people, that with everyday the dole queue would diminish in the same like pattern.

      In my area alone this week there was no jobs i had skill sets for (all skilled jobs), even the agencies despite advertising posts had absolutely none locally and even then you needed a fork lift licence, HGV or proven supervisory experience traceable 5 years back,etc. If that isn’t bad enough,employers want people locally and purposely avoid benefit claimants knowing they have to look for more or better paid work. Heaven help you if your not on the electoral register because your homeless. Apart from the big issue can any employer state how many homeless people they have on their books at anyone time.

      Good on you for approaching them Enigma as i do it too and like you leave them completely speechless, especially those that tout we pay for their benefits mantra.
      Strong on opinion, hopelessly lost on math, knowledge and facts they are that stack up in the cold light of day.


      May 7, 2017 at 8:55 am

      • I’ll remember that for the next time Doug, there will of course be many more times where I’ll have the chance.! there are many in this town.


        May 7, 2017 at 10:16 am

      • in the last 4 weeks i have applied for near enough 400 jobs and i have not had 1 reply bar the automated reply email, and none of the jobs are skilled so all i am doing is making my self more unemployable the more jobs i apply for.

        yet if i dont do it then i am not ase and get a sanction cant fkn win.


        May 7, 2017 at 2:20 pm

      • Hi Superted

        Whens your case ?


        May 7, 2017 at 7:23 pm

      • had no letter yet but says can take 12 weeks if i win its going on my cv 😉


        May 7, 2017 at 8:07 pm

  42. Good for you enigma 😃


    May 6, 2017 at 3:19 pm

    • n the last 4 weeks i have applied for near enough 400 jobs and i have not had 1 reply bar the automated reply email, and none of the jobs are skilled so all i am doing is making my self more unemployable the more jobs i apply for.

      yet if i dont do it then i am not ase and get a sanction cant fkn win.

      Its much harder out there then the once Jobfactory of Europe claims.There is some kinds of work which quickly go in a short time.

      What this shows is claims made by the DWP about universal Credit and 30 hours are not true.it does nothing to change the age barrier attitudes those with health problems which if they did find work and keep quite about their condition hospital appointments will be hard to hide at best.Making work pay masks the problem finding it for many.

      Theres no help in that department only attitude and a tearoom for G4S.Its simply a Tory embarressment to a problem that existed for years.

      A culture of Lying is non productive.

      Failure ends in failure that sounds very fimiliar here.Look what happened with the out of control lending reposessions bankruptcy and debt for a lifetime.But it did provide business for bottom feeding debt collectors just filling a market.


      May 8, 2017 at 6:50 am

  43. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 6, 2017 at 6:59 pm



    “I work and our lass works, we have a couple off kids, we say exactly what you’ve have said. I was in JD in the boro the other day treating myself to a pair off nike air cost £125 the guy who was getting served in front off me spent over £200 and the lass said to him “you must have a good job you spend loads in here everyweek” he said “the tax payer”


    1: Does a person get more benefits than they are entitled to ?

    A: No, no one got or gets £18’000 to £20’000 thrown at them, its all means tested.

    2: Did either the poster,the till girl or the guy mention he has kids, has a disability or permanent illness ?

    A: No. Well its a safe bet he would have been found fit for work and sports shops and clothing is not what you see disabled or ill people do. If a parent then its a safe bet he has a partner (most single parents are women) and at least one child. How if you got £20’000 could you support all 3 or even your self and a single child when it costs around 10’000 a year to raise a child and near that for an adult to survive and have a home, meaning there’s no way he can achieve all that and spend large sums in JD every week.

    3: If this person is single and means tested could he afford to shop with large sums of money every week ?

    A: No as he would only get JSA and housing benefit while having to pay council tax meaning he couldn’t have had the money to spend in JD every week.

    4: Did the poster, the till girl ask this man how do you mean taxpayer funds it or ask if he was joking?

    A: No meaning assumptions are being made as to the life of this individual.

    We have facts for a reason, its because often assumptions are wrong which is understandable because assumptions don’t look to clarify unknown variables. This is why we have such things as the scientific method and in all cases outside of science when looking to get to the truth rely on seeking hard evidence.

    For this story to be true would mean if the guy wasn’t joking or got a loan (ie bank) scandal going on or a drug dealer or thief that they are neglecting there partner and or child to the point these people are starving,naked and very ill. This cant be the case or they cant be dead as i think social services and welfare and many other services and departments would be very aware what with appearances being warranted. If they weren’t then that raises some very big issues towards these departments and governments on the count of neglect a subject i would have thought would have been a far greater concern to the poster than a lad buying sports gear.

    Sadly this story does not stack up to the points needed for this to be true. These very sad but ultimately dangerous lies or opinions are littering comments sections of welfare news articles and there going unchallenged. We all make posts and comments online but its important we do so with fact and supply evidence or at least source for reason of comment. When you are on these sections next time, don’t ignore such comments, Tackle them with sound logic as when you do, they always fall apart and ultimately end in either the person refusing to post further or descend into trying to assassinate your character.


    May 7, 2017 at 10:59 am

    • They guy could have been a ‘schizophrenic’. ‘Schizophrenics’ get the highest rates of ‘disability’ benefits. ‘Schizophrenics’ trouser over £300 knicker a week of taxpayers cash. Never thought to ask ‘them. did you, doug 😉

      Dr Jekyll and Mrs Hyde.

      May 7, 2017 at 11:50 am

    • £300 knicker a week for over-priced trainers. They get their housing benefit etc. too like any other claimant. ‘Schizophrenics’ are the life-blood of the over-priced trainer shops around here. They are the only folk with any cash to spend. So many people having a conversation with themselves and buying expensive trainers.

      Dr Jekyll and Mrs Hyde.

      May 7, 2017 at 11:54 am

    • Dr jeykell &Mrs Hyde….
      Or should that be PenniesFromHeaven
      Or whatever ConMen nickname you are using?

      I observed your comments on The guardian about britexit… truly showing what you are.


      May 7, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      • Yup! PenniesFromHeaven/Dr Jekyll and Mrs Hyde/insert CONmen nickname is a right nasty piece of goods!

        Guardianista Reader

        May 9, 2017 at 9:17 am

  45. No wonder the local elections were on thursday last week. It was STARWARS DAY May the 4th be with you


    May 7, 2017 at 12:54 pm

  46. OT: Scottish become aware of theComing Jobs meltdown (Automation)

    BBC has article about coming jobs meltdown due to Automation.
    Suggested solutions:

    A) problem with education
    As if changing education will fill the hole of half jobs going

    B) set up training
    So who will pay for this?

    think about it – youngsters (cheaper more gullible will be available in large numbers, cue collapsing wages,
    Then there is the effects of local economics taking hits as people who spent money no longer in work, knock on effect on national and local tax receipt s, and so the downward spiral begins – remembering of course the advice of our betters earlier this year at Davos – have cash to take a year out, cash to retrain – Really? Anyone at all know anyone who could attempt that claptrap?)

    There was a article in City AM a rag for the citu which boasted about 2 out of 3 bosses rushing to implementation Automation.
    I think the timeline is a lot lot short than 2030)


    May 7, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    • I forgot to add – think of the huge numbers of jobs that will go. The only comparison I can find is the depression of the 20s/30s. I can think of no way – up to magic that multiple x lost jobs totsl, replacement s will be created.


      May 7, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    • Capital despises Labour. Capital will replace Labour with automation at each and every opportunity it can. Capital without the need for Labour is the end goal of Capital.

      — Karl Marx

      Karl Marx

      May 7, 2017 at 2:13 pm

      • Capital, my dear boy. Capital.

        Lord Snooty

        May 7, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    • Gazza

      I have been warning people since the late 90s what automation would do (the warning signs were actually debated back in 1954). I even in the 2000s put up for parliament to debate a need to introduce regulations about technology in the workforce but no public bar a few signed it.

      Its no surprize employers are rushing as ive said enough times, THERE’S ABSOLUTE NO REGULATIONS TO PREVENT AN EMPLOYER GOING FULLY AUTOMATED. Ive visited quite a few places gone full auto in Europe where the entire place is only manned by 8 to 12 men. Those places are still running without incident.


      May 7, 2017 at 7:32 pm

      • The only reason anyone is employed to do a task is because the employer hasn’t found a way to automate the task … yet!

        Automatic For The People

        May 7, 2017 at 8:23 pm

  47. Richest 1,000 people “kept calm and carried on making billions” amid the brexit vote of 2016 (but there’s no money they tell us? Because it’s in the hands of the scrounging super rich.



    May 7, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    • Part of the reason is that most of these people’s wealth is invested abroad so, after Brexit was announced and the pound was devalued against other currencies, their overall wealth in British pounds shot up because the money they had abroad was worth more in that currency.

      The pound nosedived and these people’s wealth, calculated in pounds, shot up.

      Funny, eh?


      May 7, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      • Yes, because the stock markets have been soaring the past few years, before Brexit and especially after Brexit. And before you ask why the FTSE (UK) indexes are riding high that is because most of the (British) companies are based abroad or have their assets invested overseas even if they have a UK ‘head office.

        Kamil Ahmed - BBC

        May 7, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    • Marie

      Im not sure if ive mentioned it before but imagine you and me go into a betting shop. I have £10’000 and you have £1000. We bet on the same horses and all win. No matter what you do, i will always capitalize the most. Unless you find bets i don’t know about eventually when you factor how money works, know matter what you win if i keep betting on the day time and horses, eventually not only would you not have money to bet with, you would also become to skint to even survive.

      This is why the rich are still getting richer and that’s even without the government cutting there taxes.


      May 7, 2017 at 7:42 pm

      • Dead right doug.


        May 7, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      • But if you both lose if you’re rich you lose ten times as much!

        Lord Snooty

        May 8, 2017 at 6:03 am

      • The government always says, when asked about taxing the rich, that they are paying more tax than ever before. Thing is, since tax has gone DOWN for high earners the only way they are paying more tax is because they are accruing MORE money and getting richer. Hence, although they are paying more tax they are proportionately therefore much richer than ever before. Funny old world ain’t it?


        May 8, 2017 at 6:07 am

      • Lord Snooty

        The rich man doesn’t leave the bookies 10 times sooner though does he yet the man with the £1000 would have to spend longer in the bookies if they wanted to equal the rich mans wealth.

        Your focusing on just one point instead of recognizing the conditions in which it was set.

        You can change the bookie to a bank, an employer but ultimately what you discover is, that the wealth has to come from somewhere and that somewhere is the lesser financed man.


        May 8, 2017 at 11:28 am

      • Indeed, doug! There is a lot to be learned from reading Das Kapital. No Wealth without Labour and all that.

        John McDonnell MP

        May 8, 2017 at 12:37 pm

      • John McDonnell MP

        He might have read it but like every politician never learnt from it or any other political ideology. Hes as barking up the wrong tree as the Tories are but is that any surprise when all that comes out of a politicians mouth is nothing but these tired old books.

        If you want to transform the way things are then it not the politics that needs to change but rather it is us the species that needs to change. We need to change our traits as it is these that create greed or more importantly the overwhelming desire to hold more assets than others, to harbor no feeling towards others because an ideology says so, to believe we need a central anchor to organize ourselves,etc.

        Its not going to happen over night, not even in one generational lifetime as we maybe be practicing it but the old will still be in our system. We transform when our new life is like breathing air, that we know no other.
        Politicians cant nor want to achieve that, there all i promise you utopia in the next 5 years merchants, short termists that leave more problems than they solve be they labour or conservative.


        May 8, 2017 at 4:17 pm

      • “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

        — Matthew 6:24

        The Holy Bible

        May 8, 2017 at 4:44 pm

      • “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this darkness, against evil, spiritual forces in the heavens.”

        — Ephesians 6:12

        The Holy Bible

        May 8, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      • وأولئك الذين كفروا سوف يقودون إلى الجحيم في مجموعات حتى عندما يصلون إليها، يتم فتح بواباتها ويقول حراسها، “لم يأت لك رسلا من أنفسكم، وتلاوة لك آيات ربك وتحذيرك من اجتماع هذا اليوم لك؟ ” يقولون: “نعم، ولكن كلمة العقاب دخلت حيز التنفيذ على الكفار.

        wa’awlayik alladhin kafaruu sawf yaqudun ‘iilaa aljahim fi majmueat hatta eindama yasilun ‘iilayha, ytm fath biwabatiha wayaqul harasuha, “lm yat lak rusulana mmin ‘anfusikim, watilawat lak ayat rabbik watahadhirik min aijtimae hdha alyawm lika? ” yaquluna: “neum, walakan kalimat aleiqab dakhalat hayz alttanfidh ealaa alkiffar.

        And those who disbelieved will be driven to Hell in groups until, when they reach it, its gates are opened and its keepers will say, “Did there not come to you messengers from yourselves, reciting to you the verses of your Lord and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say, “Yes, but the word of punishment has come into effect upon the disbelievers.

        — The Quran 39:71

        The Quran

        May 8, 2017 at 5:05 pm

      • Have you heard the Good News*? 😀 😀 😀 😀

        *Our Lord Jesus Christ died on the Cross for our Sins so that we may Blessed with Eternal Life

        The Jehovah Witnesses

        May 9, 2017 at 7:52 am

      • Lord Snooty

        True! But what doug is getting at in their own imitable ham-fisted, convoluted, doesn’t-make-sense way is that the ‘wealth gap’ will remain relatively the same. You cannot close the ‘wealth gap’. The poor man will always remain relatively poor and the rich man relatively rich.

        Rachel Riley

        May 9, 2017 at 8:09 am

      • Rachel Riley

        Always knew you were never that good at math. What a waste of a degree, you 2:1 under achiever.


        May 9, 2017 at 9:10 pm

  48. Section 2 of the Fraud Act 2006

    Fraud by false representation


    A person is in breach of this section if he—


    dishonestly makes a false representation, and


    intends, by making the representation—


    to make a gain for himself or another, or


    to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.


    A representation is false if—


    it is untrue or misleading, and


    the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.


    “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—


    the person making the representation, or


    any other person.


    A representation may be express or implied.


    For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).


    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 7, 2017 at 5:10 pm



      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      May 7, 2017 at 5:11 pm

      • 3 Fraud by failing to disclose information
        A person is in breach of this section if he—
        (a) dishonestly fails to disclose to another person information which he is
        under a legal duty to disclose, and
        (b) intends, by failing to disclose the information—
        (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
        (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
        4 Fraud by abuse of position
        (1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
        (a) occupies a position in which he is expected to safeguard, or not to act
        against, the financial interests of another person,
        (b) dishonestly abuses that position, and
        (c) intends, by means of the abuse of that position—
        (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
        (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
        (2) A person may be regarded as having abused his position even though his
        conduct consisted of an omission rather than an act.
        5 “Gain” and “loss”
        (1) The references to gain and loss in sections 2 to 4 are to be read in accordance
        with this section.
        (2) “Gain” and “loss”—
        (a) extend only to gain or loss in money or other property;
        (b) include any such gain or loss whether temporary or permanent;
        and “property” means any property whether real or personal (including things
        in action and other intangible property).
        (3) “Gain” includes a gain by keeping what one has, as well as a gain by getting
        what one does not have.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 7, 2017 at 5:13 pm

      • The Tories think Brexit will save them from criminal acts.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 7, 2017 at 5:14 pm

      • So that what Brexit is about – Tories trying to get out of Criminal Acts.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 7, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      • UN Breaches by the DWP. GUILTY

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        May 7, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    • Superted

      All too true – I know this as am a victim of this by a local


      May 9, 2017 at 9:57 am

  49. 6 Possession etc. of articles for use in frauds
    (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he has in his possession or under his control
    any article for use in the course of or in connection with any fraud.
    (2) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—
    (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12
    months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);
    (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding
    5 years or to a fine (or to both).
    (3) Subsection (2)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12
    months were a reference to 6 months.
    7 Making or supplying articles for use in frauds
    (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he makes, adapts, supplies or offers to supply
    any article—
    (a) knowing that it is designed or adapted for use in the course of or in
    connection with fraud, or
    (b) intending it to be used to commit, or assist in the commission of, fraud.
    (2) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—
    (a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12
    months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);
    (b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding
    10 years or to a fine (or to both).
    (3) Subsection (2)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12
    months were a reference to 6 months.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 7, 2017 at 5:17 pm

  50. Tory organisation…


    May 7, 2017 at 6:54 pm

  51. The British small media is just picking up the story first on RT the Russians – oh dear the Russians controlling the Election.

    UN to review Britain’s human rights record, mass surveillance & racial profiling

    RT – 4th Mat 2017

    A UN team will carry out a sweeping review of the UK’s commitment to human rights and investigate issues including the proposal to replace the Human Rights Act (HRA) with a British Bill of Rights.

    The UN Human Rights Council’s Universal Periodic Review (UPR) Working Group will investigate the appropriateness of a Conservative manifesto pledge to scrap the act, after activists warned such a move would undermine citizens’ fundamental rights.

    Read More:

    Also in the Canary

    The UN is to carry out a major investigation into the Conservative government. After numerous complaints were made, it will be reporting on concerns surrounding Britain’s human rights record, the impact of austerity, poverty, mass surveillance, racism, and press freedom. But no UK mainstream media outlets appear to be reporting this potentially damning investigation.

    The UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) is carrying out its periodic review of the UK’s commitment to international human rights law. So it asked hundreds of campaign groups, charities and organisations to submit evidence [pdf p13]. And the complaints made by these bodies are damning.


    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    May 8, 2017 at 8:10 am

    • The Russians are coming [Take 5]

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      May 8, 2017 at 8:12 am

  52. Fact v lies, those of the Tories, we know they will try anything..

    Facebook warns of fake news danger ahead of British election



    May 8, 2017 at 10:20 am

      • Enigma

        The facebook one makes me laugh. The single most vulnerable group on the planet isn’t OAPs, handicapped,abandoned children or even rape victims, its the average Joe internet user yet facebook wants them to chase their tail for an hour probably because two in their back office have a bet on how many will be dumb enough to do so. Its as absurd as them and the likes of google,twitter etc wanting to set up truth churches to go with their so far little truth factories as ive nicknamed them.

        If you all haven’t worked it out yet (pretty sure you’ve caught on enigma), its all just a scam to get you to mistrust everything to the point you run to daddy zucker and co who are looking to build an empire off the back of your lack of digital prowess so they can teach you how to think. Trust your government,trust the corporate elite, our overlords, NSA,CIA,GCHQ,BBC,CNN,NYtimes,etc. THEY WONT LIE TO YOU BECAUSE WE WILL VET THEM.

        Hmmm, don’t see daddy zucker taking down their false flags do we.

        There’s SO MUCH MORE to this story, i ain’t even began to get you started in the A section let alone being anywhere near getting you out of it.

        I will leave you with this, “what do churches do people”, “what do factories do” ?


        May 8, 2017 at 8:15 pm

      • Think our way not yours!


        May 9, 2017 at 9:28 am

      • “Elites trying to ‘hijack Brexit’ but of course.


        May 9, 2017 at 12:08 pm

  53. enigma

    May 8, 2017 at 4:12 pm

  54. enigma

    May 8, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    • Enigma

      Nice posts,especially Jonathan Pie, i love that guy.


      May 8, 2017 at 8:41 pm

  55. Looking for work with a learning disability: ‘You feel like a failure’

    Lack of support at work is a huge issue for disabled people, but for people with neurological disabilities it’s a real battle to even get hired

    I went for an interview last week – a van job, cleaning – and I told them I had autism,” explains Christopher Burns, 40, in Cornwall. “The interviewer got his phone out and called his wife ‘cos she was a nurse. He had to find out what autism was.”

    Burns – who has speech problems as well as autism – wasn’t surprised. He’s been struggling to find work for the past 20 years and hasn’t had a full-time job in eight.



    May 9, 2017 at 5:43 am

  56. Recruitment agencies struggling, oh dear.

    We’ve all seen since 2011, a massive rise in the amount of recruitment agencies opening up so is it any wonder, labor is short in supply.

    Further more what with not caring an inch for whom they recruit, is it any surprise, these very recruits look and accept even ZHCs with direct employers just to get away from them, hell even foreign workers cant get away quick enough when they find out what glitters is not necessarily gold as advertised jobs get further and further from where these workers live and thus cost them more and more in travel fees not to mention swinging shifts that often leave them not being able to get a bus or train home come finish time on a late shift.

    To add to this, some of these agencies are using welfare rules to fear workers into accepting these such poor work offers including not being able to control there hours of work to support things like studying for a qualification to better themselves.


    May 9, 2017 at 8:19 am

    • Enigma

      Out of interest, how many people visiting your foodbank who work are agency workers or self employed ?


      May 9, 2017 at 8:21 am

      • Every day I see many people sitting in a new agency handing over all their info, I know the DWP is sending many people to that agency, I was told about it by my wc.

        Most people who appear in the food bank work for an agency or are SE, it’s no longer just the British who appear in the food bank, as you’ll know.


        May 9, 2017 at 10:06 am

      • Enigma

        Thanks, thought as much.

        If it helps you with advising people being pushed to go to agencies, tell them only to register with branded names like hays,brookstreet,etc. These best connections,transline types are just cheap crap knock off built purely on slavery. The so called registration that isn’t an employment contract but it is crap is like cutting your own throat. What people need to do is play these agencies at their own game and demand they offer only a contract as per job that expires on said job ending. They wont do it and that’s you have tried,case over.

        Like work for an employer, you don’t need a contract to work. Your find its more the employer wants you to make a contract or they wont give you work. As ive said in the past, There’s zip regulation on offering and excepting contracts and there a waste of time in the first year. Just make sure you get wage slips and proof of hours and that will act to ensure the little employment rights you do have in your first year.

        Haven’t you noticed lately how both DWP and providers have been banging on about , always get a contract, your be safe ?


        May 9, 2017 at 8:54 pm

      • https://www.fprgroup.com/

        The above is the latest one in this town which I talked about.


        May 10, 2017 at 8:29 am



    May 9, 2017 at 8:24 am

  58. The Conservatives Are Paying To Push Theresa May Into Your Instagram Feed, you know what to do!



    May 9, 2017 at 12:42 pm

  59. in work poverty.

    The head of the government’s review into zero-hours contracts and the less secure world of work has said that too many businesses still allow “bad work” to flourish.

    Ahead of a speech on Tuesday evening, Matthew Taylor told the BBC that workers should be “engaged” by employers and feel more in control of how they work.

    Mr Taylor said his review, which will be delivered to Number 10 shortly after the election whoever becomes Prime Minister, will call for a mix of new tax rules and workplace regulations as well as the promotion of a “new norm” around how businesses treat their employees.



    May 9, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    • The Tories will tell you they’re the party that gives the nation proper employment – but even their advisers don’t agree

      Matthew Taylor, who is undertaking a review of work and employment for the Conservatives,

      Nobody wants to be purposeless, of course, but creating a nation of slaves to poverty wage, piecemeal jobs won’t solve any of the big questions hurtling towards us



      May 9, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    • Yes. And how many people on temporary contracts get sacked before 13 weeks are up so that their employer can avoid giving them a proper contract of employment along with normal worker’s rights, e.g., holidays etc?


      May 9, 2017 at 4:10 pm

      • Durex

        Spot on. This temp to perm with a probation period is utter rubbish and why your better off without a contract in your first year. Its like your first year being a business, it never gets consider till the second year.

        A piece of paper isn’t going to change job security, employers attitudes and thinking less about how much profit they want to pocket will.

        For the record Durex, if your PAYE, you accrue holiday pay day one as so to speak even without a contract. The only difference is, the employer doesn’t have to grant you a period to take your leave in that tax year. But considering you didn’t have a contract, you don’t have to give them notice of intended holiday either.

        Employers would never offer a contract if they didn’t need to (no regulation says they have to) which should tell you something and that something is that contracts in the first year benefits them far more than it benefits you.


        May 9, 2017 at 9:05 pm

      • @ doug

        This has happened to me five or six times. You go to a firm on a temporary contract, sometimes via an employment agency, for three months work with the possibility of permanent employment if you do well enough. So you work really hard to try to impress them and then get sacked during your thirteenth week. It’s pretty crap treatment but save the employer having to pay for your holidays and offer you any of the normal protections full-time workers enjoy.

        So you end up drifting from one short job to another with periods of unemployment between, meaning that because you’re insecure you can’t make any plans, or take a proper holiday, because you’re either working or looking for work.

        A pretty shit life really.

        I hate it.


        May 11, 2017 at 6:30 am

      • Durex


        As you can see if your PAYE, they still have to pay you as you accrue day one. Basically you accrue 2.33 days per month relative to your work pattern. If you leave before the year, they have to convert this into money and yes its still subject to tax and NI. You have to separate money from time meaning even though you aren’t taking the leave with pay, your still owed the pay. I myself often don’t take the leave and instead just take the money meaning for every week i would have take off, im actually being paid twice.

        The secrets are in understanding your contract, employment law and asking the right questions before signing it. Employers point blank don’t give a fig about you, the contract will always benefit them over you which is contrary to such a contract being mutual. They are pointless in the first year as the employer will already know the hours and how they intend to use them prior to even advertising the position. The lower the type of contract, the more pointless they are.

        Like i said, there is absolutely no regulation that stipulates an employer must offer a contract or your accept one in order for work to be undertaken or done. So ask yourself in the case of a ZHC, why offer one in the first place unless the employer wants something without giving anything in return. Look if i was to convert £7.50 an hour to energy expended, you would be shocked so now ask yourself what pay are you receiving for the benefit of your employer to be able to drag you into disciplinary procedures and go about sacking you (sacking you is not the same as refusing to supply you anymore work or take your services which is what it is without a contract).

        In the PAYE sector and even these agencies, i wont accept a contract as there worthless in the first year and agency ones are an extremely twisted one as its tide into registration without the offer of work guaranteed which is a dangerous tool DWP could use if they wanted to to without benefits for example just because you didn’t want to spend half your wages on travel. You consider and or negotiate contracts, you dont just sign them and NO, DWP cant sanction you just because you didn’t want to accept a contract but was still willing to do the work but the employer wouldn’t let you because either you stated you didn’t require one or wanted a change to it but the employer refused to amend it. That’s there decision, not yours meaning they through a non enforceable act by law decided to withdraw their offer of work.

        If there’s a contract involved, it means the job offer is subject to accepting said contract meaning at this stage its not by definition, an offer of work.


        May 11, 2017 at 7:36 am

      • Doug: “Look if i was to convert £7.50 an hour to energy expended, you would be shocked…”

        Well, let us run that calculation, shall we…

        Using my Special Theory of Relativity:

        E = MC[squared] where E = energy (Joules), M = mass (Kilograms), c = speed of light (metres per second)

        E = 7.50 x 300,000,000 [squared]

        E = 675,000,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy

        It is indeed shocking!

        Albert Einstein

        May 11, 2017 at 10:00 am

      • Albert Einstein

        Oh look, mummy left her calculator out again and poor little Albert got his sums mixed up. I say sums because little Albert hasn’t been taught the word equation yet and i would want him to get this confused with one of his playstation games.


        May 11, 2017 at 5:21 pm

  60. When the Queen dies people will go home from work early 🙂 🙂


    The Queen is Dead

    May 9, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    • Sounds like a load of shit. Long live the Queen! 😀 😀

      John Lydon

      May 9, 2017 at 11:57 pm



    And sooner rather than later your see more predictive crime tools coming in that have and are being tested and used as we speak. Before long, cant say when, there be predicting your sort while your still growing up.

    See what i mean when i said why does it matter if a computer passes or fails a Turing test as humans will still put their faith and their life into these virtual hands.

    They say its a discretionary tool. I ask you, is you making a mistake and letting a person out to kill again going to get you off the hook as saying “well the machine said so” ?

    We know what the police will choose, don’t we.


    May 10, 2017 at 5:08 pm

  62. The Tory graph say’s Labour will take us all back to the 70’s, meanwhile the Tories ARE taking us all back to the 30’s.

    Which would you choose?


    May 11, 2017 at 8:10 am

  63. Theresa May has refused to rule out making further cuts to disability benefits in the next Parliament if the Conservatives are returned to government

    So cuts will continue. .



    May 11, 2017 at 12:30 pm

  64. Number of workers dependent on zero-hour contracts jumps 13% to record 905,000 – so don’t vote for for it to continue.

    Almost a million have no guaranteed hours in their main job, as insecure work soars. Women and young people are most likely to be affected.



    May 11, 2017 at 1:03 pm

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