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Camden Council: “Claimants ‘stealing food’ to eat due to benefit delays.”

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Above: Mid-Suffolk and Babergh South Suffolk (Tory) Council Video……

Minister for Disabled People, Health and Work Damian Green sometimes spends time away from his taxing life in the bijou town of Ashford answering questions about ‘reforms’ to Personal Independence Payments.

Sample, 15th of March, Parliament, “I  am happy to confirm that to my hon. Friend. I think that he and I would agree that that was a significant step forward when it was introduced, and I am determined that we maintain progress in that direction so that people who have a disability—whether a physical or mental impairment—can lead as full a life as possible.”

We note that in reply to one question he said, “In his long and distinguished career, the hon. Gentleman has been shadow Leader of the House, so he knows perfectly well that such things are a matter for the usual channels. It is therefore somewhat above my pay grade.”

You wonder if the turmoil in his department’s botched scheme Universal Credit is ‘above’ both his ‘pay grade’ and ability to deal with…

These are some of the latest difficulties.

Universal Credit: Claimants ‘stealing food’ to eat due to benefit delays

Finance chief warns people are being forced into new debts

DESPERATE tenants faced with long delays in accessing new Universal Credit benefits are beginning to steal food to survive, the Town Hall has warned a parliamentary committee.

Camden Council told the Work and Pensions Select Committee that the new system – a single monthly, means-tested benefit – was backfiring due to delays in the system. This meant people were racking up debts and rent arrears before they had received any help. In some cases, people are waiting up to six weeks before claims are processed.

The Town Hall’s official submission to MPs said: “One tenant has confessed to a rent officer that they were stealing food to eat. It is common to hear that Universal Credit claimants are borrowing heavily from family and friends. The Department for Work and Pensions’ Universal Credit helpline set up to advise claimants on the progress of their claim is providing an unacceptable service. Telephone calls can cost up to 55p a minute from pay-as-you-go mobile phones, which are commonly used by people with lower incomes. Wait times to speak with an adviser can be very long – one claimant in Camden has reported that their phone bill for a month was over £140, used almost entirely on calls to the DWP.”

The council is one of a number of local authorities, volunteer groups and charities giving evidence to the committee investigating the effectiveness of the new benefit system, first devised by former work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith.

The reforms were meant to make the process of claiming benefits simpler through a single account, but the monthly cycle has left many struggling as they wait for a first payment. The council, meanwhile, fears that landlords will stop letting to those affected, particularly as many do not have savings to fall back on.

Around 230 people currently claim Universal Credit in Camden, but this figure could jump to 10,000 when the system is rolled out across the country this year.

Camden’s submission to the committee added: “While we recognise there is much to support in a benefit system that encourages claimants to take responsibility for a personal budget and outgoings, we feel strongly that a system should not be set up in a way that potentially adds to the risk of vulnerable people losing their home.”

The ‘very long’ wait on the phone struck home.

This is more and more people’s experience of anything to do with the DWP, and all the rest, particularly the infamous ‘outsourced’ bits of the state, run by private racketeers. 

In sum the next story comes as no surprise:

Pressure mounts on UK government to halt universal credit. Third Force News.

Pressure is mounting on the UK government to ditch universal credit until its catalogue of problems are resolved.

Scotland’s social security secretary Angela Constance warned the Westminster-imposed system was no longer feasible in Scotland and is demanding UK ministers halt its introduction.

The minister’s demand comes after a Westminster committee launched an inquiry into universal credit amid concerns over delays in payments.

The new system – where people use an online account to manage their claim or apply for a benefit – is fully operational only in certain parts of the country.

Three Scottish councils, East Lothian, Highland and East Dunbartonshire, have it in place, with other areas piloting aspects of the full system.

Constance has written to Damian Green, UK work and pensions secretary, to ask for a “complete halt to full service roll-out of universal credit in Scotland with immediate effect”, stating it is “no longer feasible”.

She said people who are moved on to full service have to wait six weeks before receiving their first payment, resulting in tenants building up rent arrears.

As a result,

Delays in payments have seen landlords, including housing associations, reporting financial difficulties, with councils reporting record rent arrears,  Constance said.

“It is clear that the system simply isn’t working and the UK government is not prepared to make the necessary changes,” she said.

“The six-week delay in receiving a payment – with longer delays for some being experienced – is a completely unacceptable situation and one which has the potential to push low-income households into further hardship and homelessness.

“I was also shocked to hear reports that, in some areas, landlords are advertising properties as ‘No UC’ due to their experience with the system.

“Despite the UK government having these issues highlighted in the pilots for universal credit and by councils, charities, housing associations and parliamentarians, absolutely no meaningful reassurance has been received.

“I therefore cannot be confident that these issues are even close to being fully resolved and it is my view that it is simply not credible for the UK government to continue with the further roll-out of full service universal credit until these problems are fully resolved.”

Leading charities have backed the call.

As should we all.

Meanwhile the Rt Hon Damian finds time for this jaunty event on the 17th of March.

Damian Green MP

Ashford MP, Damian Green, has shown his support WWF’s tenth Earth Hour by making a special pledge to help protect the planet.  The world is changing fast, and it’s never been more important to show support for action on climate change.

Damian Green joined the WWF at the House of Commons this week to show they care about the future of our planet, ahead of the global lights out event, taking place on Saturday 25 March at 8:30pm.

Damian Green said: “I am delighted to support WWF’s Earth Hour this year to demonstrate how important it is that we take climate change seriously. I am proud to be a member of a parliament which has set ambitious targets to reduce our carbon emissions over the coming decades. The Government has outlined clear plans in order to live up to these ambitions.”

Each year, millions of people around the world come together to call to support Earth Hour. Last year a record 178 countries took part and iconic landmarks across the UK switched out their lights, from Big Ben and Buckingham Palace, to Brighton Pier, Edinburgh Castle and Caerphilly Castle. This year is set to be the biggest yet as it’s the 10 year anniversary of Earth Hour. With 2016 breaking temperature records for the third consecutive year, it’s never been more important to tackle climate change.

 

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Written by Andrew Coates

March 24, 2017 at 3:57 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on michaelsnaith.

    snaithmagmailcom

    March 24, 2017 at 4:21 pm

  2. Says it all really when Damian dickhead is more concerned about the climate change hoax than about the real life hardships of people struggling on UC,but he appears more than happy to do the dirty work of his satanic masters!

    foxglove

    March 24, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    • It’s not a hoax. The sort of people who believe that are the sort of people who believe benefit fraud is 30 times higher than it is.

      KJ

      March 25, 2017 at 3:48 am

      • I suppose you believe that dinosaurs once roamed the earth as well!

        foxglove

        March 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm

      • When 93% of scientists agree that something is happening it almost certainly IS happening. Blimey! As the climate warms up and desertification of more and more of the earth takes place, if you think we’ve got problems with refugees now imagine what it will be like then! With a forced diaspora of millions upon millions of people from the third world heading for Europe.

        Brian Cox (by name and Cock by nature)

        March 25, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    • foxglove

      leave off – I was at British National Space Centre and worked with the scientists when news of the ozone layer broke, remember that? Nothing to worry about except for the ultraviolet rays which would blind you and give you cancer,kill off live stock, severely damage agriculture if not destroy it. I saw the early projections for global warming – it is not a joke and yes, if it gets to the extreme levels [unfortuntely it looks like that could well happen unless people and govs change attitude] goodbye vast majority if not all of the human race.

      One simple irrefutable fact: Billions of tonnes methane is locked in the sea bed, water [this has been confirmed, and increasingly so – do search of siberian permafrost] heats up, methane released – think miles wide fireball along coasts. No sun, no crops, no food.

      That is one effect – there are many more.

      Really want to take a chance on that or take steps?

      Gazza

      March 26, 2017 at 7:07 pm

      • Climate change is a gigantic hoax used to justify a whole new strata of taxation and regulation onto the people and centralise even more control in the hands of the bankers all in the name of “saving the planet”.

        Violet

        March 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm

      • Foxglove

        While its well within the bounds of reality for individuals to capitalize upon circumstance, you cant say or are you indeed saying these individuals single handed prevented the ozone layers from repairing satisfactory. Are you further saying these individuals control and destabilized the earths magnetic field. Are you saying they have managed to make the sun wobble or what looks very likely, possibly break its 11 year cycle ?

        doug

        March 27, 2017 at 6:49 am

      • @Violet

        Are you saying that nine out of ten scientists are in the back pocket of government and/or business? And are lying about their data, most of which has been duplicated many times by separate teams and experiments, verified independently and publicly available for scrutiny? That’s kind of nuts. What evidence have you got that makes you think global warming is fake? Has that great scientist and humanitarian Donald Trump whispered something into your shell like or what?

        Brian Cox (by name and Cock by nature)

        March 27, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      • ..

        A*lex J*ones

        March 27, 2017 at 5:26 pm

      • …………….

        Alex Jones

        March 27, 2017 at 5:28 pm

      • You ever heard of HAARP, doug? Well have you, punk? Go look in up in your favorite spy engine.

        **POLICE STATE 101 – TOTAL GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT! OWN IT NOW ON HIGH-QUALITY DVD!**

        Alex Jones

        March 27, 2017 at 5:28 pm

      • Echelon And The Majestic 12 Don’t forget them or the ECONOMIC LEAGUE

        Hatzaetos5000

        March 28, 2017 at 8:36 am

      • They are controlling the weather!

        Alex Jones

        March 27, 2017 at 5:29 pm

      • You ever heard of HAARP, doug? Well have you, punk? Go look in up in your favorite spy engine.

        They are controlling the weather! They are bending Earth’s magnetic p*oles! They are knocking Earth off it’s tilt!

        Goddamn them p*oles!

        **POLICE STATE 101 – TOTAL GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT! OWN IT NOW ON HIGH-QUALITY DVD!**

        Alex Jones

        March 27, 2017 at 5:34 pm

      • Hi Alex 🙂

        Have bought all 101 of your Police State – Total Global Enslavement on high-quality DVDs and they are all like… the same lol 🙂

        Violet

        March 28, 2017 at 9:38 am

      • Global warming is a hoax, I tell ya!

        President Trump

        March 28, 2017 at 10:15 pm

  3. A Department for Work and Pensions spokesman said: “The best way to support people is to help them into work, and under universal credit people are moving into work faster and staying in work longer than under the old system.

    Unfortunately those that I’ve spoken to on Universal Credit do not reflect this,instead volunteering which it isn’t also work experience and other Skills Funding Agency schemes are being forwarded as a must do.

    Also there appears to be a resurgence in no qualified or experience roles being forwarded for.

    Government blackmails unemployed into making hopeless job applications

    Unemployed people are being threatened and blackmailed into making entirely hopeless job applications. Those claiming Job Seekers Allowance (JSA) are now being forced to apply for at least three jobs per week, even if they are barred from working in such positions or do not have the necessary skills.

    http://www.theopinionsite.org/government-blackmails-unemployed-into-making-hopeless-job-applications/

    ken

    March 24, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    • How the fuck can you move into work faster just because the DWP scum have put the benefit you are claiming under another name,effing retards!

      foxglove

      March 24, 2017 at 8:54 pm

      • In my area those being “migrated” onto U.C. are single people who have become unemployed, surely the most likely to get another job. If the wheels don’t come off the U.C. bus before it “rolls over” and smashes into every one else it,ll be different.

        mickruhland

        March 24, 2017 at 10:46 pm

    • Ken

      “under universal credit people are moving into work faster and staying in work longer than under the old system” is a rather arbitrary statement by government when you consider their choice data.

      Its easy to make such a claim when you base it after 2008 at the height of the fall out, When you had a count that was only there as a result of the crash and would naturally be predisposed to gain work again ASAP because their not shirkers like government claimed, how can you not produce a stat that looks like people are going into work faster and or longer. Levels of out of work claimants are now at pre 2008 levels and if you noticed has barely moved up or down. DWP or government like to throw unemployment figures at you and press that does not really do proper justice in clarifying the claimant count or those in work still heavily state funded when we talk taxpayer money. Migrants EU or not, non paid relatives in a business, people on government approved training courses are seen as employed so mask whats relative in terms of public expenditure. Now usually you make a comparison between unemployment and out of work claimants which has already been done by ONS BUT STRANGELY has been recently removed from the labour market statistics for the first time (March 2017 edition).

      No public announcement of such a removal has been announced nor has mainstream media drawn attention it.

      doug

      March 25, 2017 at 11:52 am

    • Brian Cock

      I’m saying 9 out of 10 scientists are in the back pocket of Rothschild banksters 😉

      Violet

      March 27, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      • To right Marie,there’s that many hoaxes and scams going on,for example the AIDS epidemic,the supposed existence of dinosaurs,do nuclear weapons really exist???

        foxglove

        March 27, 2017 at 5:02 pm

      • Sorry violet read your name wrong.

        foxglove

        March 27, 2017 at 5:04 pm

      • I’ve marked you down as a crazy and so not worth listening to, Violet. The idea that more than 90% of independent and reputable scientists from every continent and country on earth all say the same thing and are falsifying data and reports to serve an economic or political agenda is mental. Truly, truly insane. I am afraid you are bonkers and hence not worth listening to. Good luck and get well soon.

        Brian Cox (by name and Cock by nature)

        March 28, 2017 at 7:01 am

      • Brian cox

        This consensus of 97% of scientists believe humans play a role in global warming (title used back then) is to be judged as suspiciously as those 90% of claimants are happy with the service.
        Ive demonstrated enough times how people use a figure and method best abled at promoting their point. In DWPs case the percentage does not mean all claimants were polled yet you wouldn’t know that as the poster does not clarify this very important point. Further more it does not clarify is it the whole (all job centres) or just that one centres. It only implies those who were polled which is highly liable to be a very small percentage of the total claimant.

        In the percentage of scientist argument it actually all swings around a hearing and somehow went from 97% percent of climate change papers in a collection of just over 4’000 papers to 97% scientists believe humans play a part in climate change.

        People need to split the argument here

        1: Does and is the climate changing irrespective of cause/s
        2: Does the data prove humans are largely responsible or that humans do contribute (ie how has science weighed humans up with other causes).

        doug

        March 28, 2017 at 8:21 am

      • Us scientist live off research grants. If you step out of line your funding is pulled.

        As an example of how corrupt academia can be look at the recent report that said sugar was now in fact good for us, like something out the Woody Allen film, Sleeper – of course the research was funded by Tate and Lyle. Who would’ve thunk?

        Academia is just as much in the pocket of whoever pulls the purse strings as politicians are.

        As far a ‘global warming’ goes scientists HAVE been caught out falsifying ‘global warming’ data many a time. And ‘global warming’ IS being used as a pretext to tax (the poor) us more. You ever noticed that big yellow ball in the sky? Maybe that has something to do with it, just a thought. The planet will always go through periods of climate change. The Earth has even survived an Ice Age. So, don’t worry about ‘saving the planet’; Mother Earth can take care of herself just fine. Planet Earth will be around long, long after we (and maybe humanity itself) have all shuffled off this ‘mortal coil’.

        Reseach Scientist

        March 28, 2017 at 10:00 am

      • Climate change has happened in the due to other reasons, e.g., volcanism and changes in the tilt of the planets axis, which are not happening now. The changes in temperature now ARE due to human industry. Only the very dumb or self-interested, e.g., oil, coal and gas industries and those businesses most dependent on them, deny this truth. The jury isn’t out on this issue. Global warming IS real and present a REAL danger to the future of every living thing on earth. There is NO accurate or reputable data that contradicts these universal findings and we have to live with it or die with it. Denying it without a scrap of contradictory evidence to support such a belief, like a religious person taking something of faith, is utterly ridiculous. Governments all over the world, including Communist countries like China, have accepted that global warming is real and dangerous to their own interests which is why they are taking steps to cut their carbon emissions.

        It is fortunate that governments are peopled by the rational in the most part.

        Except America, temporarily, which appears to have fallen into the hands of idiots and mentalists.

        Brian Cox (by name and Cock by nature)

        March 28, 2017 at 10:18 am

      • I love how climate change on posts,threads like this are all the papers real, no its not,yes it is,no its not.

        Neither side seems to be able to debate it in scientific terms. How can you trust or not trust the paperwork if you don’t understand what its implying and how its obtained (the news,youtube and panorama don’t explain shite all).

        How about thrash it out scientifically and i will start it off.

        Can anyone produce peer reviewed data measuring currently the rate the earth naturally gives off CO2/methane. Water is the largest holder/emitter what with covering over 70% of the planet so that’s a good place to start.

        How about data on what the groundwater, ice caps,glaciers,marshes,swamps,bogs,arctic regions,geysers,tar sands,tar oil,hot springs,continental shelves naturally give off.

        doug

        March 29, 2017 at 1:51 am

      • Us cows are the biggest producers of methane 😀 *faaaarrtttt* 😀

        Daisy the Cow

        March 29, 2017 at 9:37 am

  4. OT: Debt

    Now this is so Rich I am choking on it…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-39381899
    High cost credit products must be tackled, say Lords

    The banks and financial regulators should do more to tackle the vicious cycle of debt and overcharging, says a Lords committee.
    ———————————-
    ME: Er… where do you start with this nauseating statement? Er, how about people actually earning a living wage? That would be a good start. Benefits for the unemployed being more than a stipend would help a lot of people. How about rolling back the rubbish that is UC? You want to get rid of such things a bad products you legislate it out of existance – and make the sellers justify their products in Real Simple language rather than clothing it is rubbish talk.
    I won’t go on. Every feel free to add as life is too short to list the wrongs out there…

    Gazza

    March 25, 2017 at 12:51 am

  5. Last night 24 March on BBC LOOK EAST at 18:30 1st Item in Great Yarmouth and Lowestoft. Private Renters are being evicted as soon as they go on UC. Councils say there is help from the DWP to pay direct to landlords. DWP say there is not a scheme for direct payments to landlords..Councils say they won’t have enough emergency accommodation.

    Hatzaetos5000

    March 25, 2017 at 8:57 am

    • You may find the news item on bbc iplayer it’s bbc look east for suffolk

      Hatzaetos5000

      March 25, 2017 at 10:00 am

      • It struck me strongly as well, “First tonight, the landlords who say they’ll evict tenants who are put on the Government’s new welfare scheme. It’s called Universal Credit, and Great Yarmouth was one of the first places in the country where it was rolled out. It’s designed to simplify welfare by combining six different payments It’s paid once a month, rather than every two weeks.

        In the past, housing benefit was paid directly to landlords. But now it goes to the claimant, who should then pay Landlords say the new system brought in by the Department for Work And some say they will evict tenants if they are put on Universal Credit.”

        http://subsaga.com/bbc/weather/look-east/evening-news/2017/03/24.html

        Andrew Coates

        March 25, 2017 at 10:34 am

  6. Students being housed in Legoland-style shipping containers:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39378609

    Legoland

    March 25, 2017 at 10:46 am

  7. Comic Relief raised £70million.. fist pump 😀 .. that’s a new Helicopter 😀

    Robet Mugabe

    March 25, 2017 at 11:51 am

  8. Royal sprogs private school fees cost more than poor peasants get to live on in a year.

    Royal parasites behind the vast inequality across Britain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39385125

    Marie

    March 25, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    • Its about time the useless royal parasites were turfed out onto the streets and their gaffs sold off to pay for more social housing to be built!

      foxglove

      March 25, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      • I’d evict liz and Phil and put them on the top floor of a high rise flat where the lifts always break and no pets allowed on the old age pension. And I’d turn the palaces into social housing.

        katrehman

        March 26, 2017 at 10:16 am

  9. Ministers to reverse universal credit policy for homeless families

    Households in roll out areas to receive housing benefit after new system found to be incompatible with councils’ obligations

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/25/ministers-to-reverse-universal-credit-policy-for-homeless-families

    ken

    March 25, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    • And so it begins. But how much suffering will have been caused before changes like this begin to be made?

      Samurai Apocalypse

      March 25, 2017 at 5:06 pm

  10. Remember Pret A Manger saying only 1 in every 50 applications are from British born people ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39392593

    Is it any wonder when their prepared to pay work experience candidates in sandwiches.
    What do they think this place is, Ethiopia.
    Anyone that can behave that bad to their staff, deserves to be shut down as it will only be a matter of time like sports direct before they hit the headlines again.

    I bet the cheeky bastards even quoted the rip off price they charge the public for the sandwiches just to sell the idea. I BET BOTTOM DOLLAR DWP AND BIS OF GOVERNMENT WERE THE ONES THAT OK’D IT.

    Simulating the world of work, yeah, everything but the going rate.

    doug

    March 25, 2017 at 2:44 pm

  11. “NO You See”.

    Are they happy now?

    shirleynott

    March 26, 2017 at 1:58 am

    • “No UC; No dogs …”

      shirleynott

      March 26, 2017 at 2:07 am

  12. Belarus – Tax for being unemployed 6 months or longer

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39393351

    “instils discipline in the workshy”.

    Now what the western media aren’t telling you and you can go look this up, is that employment is guaranteed with benefits (the old soviet method). So you will probably be scratching your head right about now thinking then if there working, how can they be workshy” ?

    Well a lot of unemployed people in Belarus despite being unemployed DON’T register to claim benefits. So President Alexander Lukashenko is saying because you don’t take taxpayer money which includes working, hes going to tax you.
    You save the public purse and its still not good enough for that government. If you think that’s bad, this Belarus government hates any charities providing shelter for the homeless and uses hook nor crook methods to prevent them from being established where government cant install controls (forced labour). The Belarus government don’t even keep proper statistics (neither does UK).

    doug

    March 26, 2017 at 9:25 am

    • Mr Lukashenko has run Belarus – a country where little dissent is tolerated – since 1994.

      He has been described by some Western officials as “Europe’s last dictator”.

      Perhaps its a good time for May to strike up a trade deal amongst allies.

      ken

      March 26, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      • I was just about to comment as well, thanks Doug.

        This background, from last year, says it all,

        Backlash as Belarus imposes ‘social parasite’ law to fine unemployed
        New rules that effectively criminalise those out of work have been criticised as a Soviet-era throwback. RFE/RL report.

        “Vital Yurchanka once ran a successful business selling shoes in his hometown of Homel, in south-eastern Belarus, but the deepening economic crisis in the country recently forced him to close up shop.

        Under a new law, Yurchanka will have to pay $245 (£166) a year to the state in lieu of his taxes.

        The legislation, known local as the “social parasite” law, has sparked dismay in Belarus, where many struggle to make ends meet. It has previously been described as a move to criminalise unemployment.

        For Yurchanka the decree smacks of Soviet times, when “parasitism” was a criminal offence known as “tuneyadstvo” which, according to the Moscow Times, was based on the notion that “every able-bodied person has a duty to work and help build a utopian communist society.”

        “This is like 1937. Go and work or we will force you to,” he said. “I think people will try to express their outrage and they will be right.”

        “The new rules, signed into law by Belarus’ authoritarian president Alexander Lukashenko earlier this month, aim to “stimulate able-bodied citizens to engage in labour activity and fulfil their constitutional obligation to participate in financing state expenditures.”

        Adults who have not paid income tax covering at least 183 days of employment per year will be fined. Failure to pay will be punishable by additional fines and ultimately by detention, followed by community service.”

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/16/belarus-fine-unemployed-social-parasite-law

        Andrew Coates

        March 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    • A similar “Poor Law” existed in this country once upon a time.

      Paul

      March 29, 2017 at 7:30 am

  13. check this one out…. http://www.dwp.gov.uk in the search bar enter decision makers guide. i don’t think that this is meant for public consumption……

    snoopers charter ?

    March 26, 2017 at 9:42 am

  14. Housing scam reaps millions (Thousands of benefit claimants are being “warehoused”in small rooms in terraced houses that landlords are presenting as flats in order to obtain the highest possible housing benefit (!).

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/housing-scam-reaps-millions-txxqm0zqx

    Marie

    March 26, 2017 at 2:54 pm

    • Marie

      experiencing this for myself at this moment – though in a week or so even that goes…

      Gazza

      March 26, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      • Equality/Information Commission steps to take

        Contacted Equality & Human rights, got a reference number – lady at other end aghast at what is happening. [Unfortunately she had to endure a rant, I apologised – just reading the rubbish fills me with rage]

        Information Commission however was another kettle of fish. Disagreed that council withholding information on how decision made and use/missuse of information they had about myself was a issue, was told just give them standard 40 days – pointed out homeless appeal was 21 days, how does them withholding information past that date help appeal as information they relied upon was utter lies or deleted/ignored?. Escalated to section head who agreed with me. Emailing them and will subsequently receive a call reference which will pass to legal people.

        So if you don’t like what you hear and it sounds wrong escalate until you are accepted or hear a logical reason to accept what you have been told.

        Gazza

        March 27, 2017 at 2:48 pm

  15. Most police detectives and interrogators in Michigan are trained in the following method of interrogation. Key points to look at here, the suspect really not allowed to talk much until step 8. Another key point with this technique is that it is not concerned with voluntariness of the statement until the police are recording the statement at the end of Step 9.

    The REID 9 STEPS OF INTERROGATION, IN BRIEF

    Step One: Direct Positive Confrontation
    A. Presentation of fact synopsis to suspect.
    B. Reference to evidence, real or fictional.
    C. Suspect is told that he is involved in the crime.
    D. Behavioral observation of suspect.
    E. Restatement of confrontation, stronger or weaker.

    Step Two: Theme Development
    A. Transition phases from confrontation.
    B. Propose reasons that will justify or excuse the commission of the crime.
    C. Behavioral assessment of suspect to choose proper theme.
    D. Longest portion of 9 steps.

    Step Three: Stopping Denials
    A. Both guilty and innocent deny the crime at issue.
    B. Starts during direct positive confrontation.
    C. Absence of denials in step two indicates probable guilt.
    D. Interrogator recognizes and stops denial before it is complete.
    E. Progress is indicated by cessation or weakening of denials.

    Step Four: Overcoming Objections
    A. Suspect proposes a reason why he allegedly did not commit the crime.
    B. Normally offered by only the guilty.
    C. Indicates progress n the interrogation if given after denials.
    D. Handled differently than denials by first listening and accepting.
    E. Proper handling of objections helps overcome the subject’s defenses.

    Step Five: Getting the Suspect’s Attention
    A. Suspect is on defensive and is tense and confused.
    B. The themes will work only is suspect is listening.
    C. Interrogator reaches peak of sincerity in his speech.
    D. Physical closeness and use of verbal techniques to command attention.
    E. Physical gestures of sincerity are used to establish attitude of understanding and concern.

    Step Six: The Suspect Quiets and Listens
    A. The physical signs of surrender begin to appear.
    B. The themes are shortened and lead toward alternatives.
    C. Establishment of eye contact is most important at this point by verbal and physical techniques.
    D. Tears at this stage positively indicate the suspect’s guilt.

    Step Seven: Alternatives
    A. Non-threatening to suspect they concern some minor aspect of the crime.
    B. Gives choice between acceptable reason and unacceptable reason for committing the crime.
    C. One alternative is stressed to lead subject to choose the positive alternative.
    D. Either choice is an admission of guilt.

    Step Eight: Bringing the Suspect into the Conversation.
    A. The acceptance of one alternative is reinforced by the interrogator.
    B. The suspect is encouraged to talk about aspect of the crime.
    C. The use of realistic words is introduced by the interrogator.
    D. Initial corroboration of the confession is begun.
    E. Oral witnessing of admissions by two persons.

    Step Nine: The Confession
    A. Reduction of oral statement into written, typed, or electronically recorded form.
    B. Voluntariness of statement is established along with corroboration of details.
    C. Suspect’s signing of statement is witnessed by two or more persons.

    Post Interrogation Interview:
    A. Provides a method to determine technique effectiveness.
    B. Keeps guilty suspect in proper frame of mind during typing of formal statement.
    C. Allows interrogator to calm down an innocent suspect who was confronted.

    The Jobcentre Technique

    March 27, 2017 at 6:30 am

  16. WHAT A TIME TO BE A MOTHER

    https://www.the-pool.com/news-views/politics/2017/13/frances-ryan-on-government-punishing-mothers

    Draconian measures this government is about to bring in on the 6th April.

    The more i think about this along with other measures under the great welfare reform flag (including pension and healthcare topics), i have to come to the conclusion that the working class are indeed becoming an endangered species.

    doug

    March 27, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    • doug

      the “working class”, is soon to be downgraded to the Poor Class, and as far as they are concerned from that point on to be ignored. How long before the middle class enjoy the benefits of Zero Hour Contracts/Gig Economy and UC I wonder?

      Gazza

      March 28, 2017 at 11:34 am

  17. Maybe off topic but welfare weekly carried a report the NHS is proposing to stop doctors prescribing things like antacids and antihistamines in an effort to save money reasoning that he’s things can be bought over the counter. How will this affect UC claimants and those who have been sanctioned? Years ago I started my working life working in a pharmacy and can remember people even then saying just dispense the penicillin or whatever I can’t afford anything else. It was also back then the first list came out banning certain things and insisting generics be prescribed as much as possible. ..
    In February housing benefit messed up again and I ended up paying well over halfy wages in rent. Also that month I had my eye test and got hit with new prescription for both close and distance. Even with help I had to pay £70.00. I have a credit card for absolute emergencies and had to use it. But anyone on UC or sanctioned would probably still not have the glasses they needed!!

    katrehman

    March 28, 2017 at 8:50 am

    • OFF TOPIC… Please be aware of this. Seen going into the CAB in Ipswich. 2 Members of Jobcentre Staff from Silent Street. Take caution on how you word things at the CAB. It may come back and bite your bum. CAB have told me I have chanced my arm too many times [AND WON]. CAB sometimes has wrong information on website. Website says I could get pension credit NOW at age of 59. DWP and Pension Service tell me no it’s 66 at my normal retirement date in 2023. I complained about wrong information to OFCOM and the Information OMBUDSMAN. I thinked I may have pissed off the CAB and possibly the DWP too.

      On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Ipswich Unemployed Action. wrote:

      > katrehman commented: “Maybe off topic but welfare weekly carried a report > the NHS is proposing to stop doctors prescribing things like antacids and > antihistamines in an effort to save money reasoning that he’s things can be > bought over the counter. How will this affect UC clai” >

      Philip Brown

      March 28, 2017 at 9:41 am

      • If you have only one item on your script from the Dr. One item say hay fever tablets at £3.75 in superdrug. compared to £8.50 ? on script (In Nhs/DWP terms). Over the counter at superdrug is cheaper than On or Off script at Boots. Maybe just logic or the NHS is FLAT BROKE

        Philip

        March 28, 2017 at 9:49 am

      • Yes but philip someone on jsa has free prescription. ..if they needed piriton ip to now doc could prescribe they get it free. If they are ssnctioned and have to buy…

        katrehman

        March 28, 2017 at 10:18 am

      • Thanks. I was not aware that scripts [free] stopped if sanctioned i

        philip

        March 28, 2017 at 11:08 am

      • You may well be right Phillip about the CAB and charities like Mind are another example.Sharing information is a controversial point because at that point someone does not have any control.

        Some simply won’t challenge the DWP at any point or answer.They simply tell people to see their doctor and claim ESA instead particularly where a disability is involved.Where did that advice come from was it from the charity or the DWP?

        the NHS is proposing to stop doctors prescribing things like antacids and > antihistamines

        Going without antcaids can cause long term even more health problems and greater expence.

        CAB sometimes has wrong information on website. Website says I could get pension credit NOW at age of 59

        It does appear their is incorrect information on the Citizens Advice Bureau site.Much of it come from fast changing requirements to benefits such as Universal Credit.

        ken

        March 28, 2017 at 4:08 pm

      • CAB told me to stop ”sniffing about”. It could cause THEM problems. BTW in the search bar on your computer. Enter DWP Decision Makers Guides Nothing else just those three words. See what you get. I have showed Andrew

        Philip

        March 29, 2017 at 10:47 am

      • Prosecution and defence barristers go for refreshments in each other company after court, as to politicians from different parties. They are all intertwined. They are all play their part. Trust nobody, except yourself.

        Moulder & Scunner

        March 29, 2017 at 11:56 am

      • Ipswich ‘Marxist’ Andrew Coates wines and dines at the Conservative & Union Association and is best friends with Benny Gummer.

        Ipswich Resident

        March 29, 2017 at 12:01 pm

  18. If docs aren’t allowed to prescribe antihistamines to anyone at all everyone would have to pay??

    katrehman

    March 28, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    • Apparently it’s up to the doctor: physicians can continue to prescribe all medicines if they choose.

      Harold Shipman

      March 29, 2017 at 7:25 am

  19. myself

    March 28, 2017 at 3:39 pm

  20. sorry typo www,gov.uk/government/publications-decision-makers-guide-vols-8-9-employment-and-support-allowance-staff-guide. if this fails google bury st edmunds dwp decision makers guide

    myself

    March 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm

  21. THIS LINK DOES WORK TOO. in the address bar just put dwp decision makers guide

    myself

    March 28, 2017 at 3:49 pm


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