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Government shakeout of welfare to work: what will it mean for benefit claimants?

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What they didn’t mention on above…

Thousands of jobs to go in government shakeout of welfare to work sector The Guardian (just now).

“The sector is said to be preparing for a ‘bloodbath’.”

Funding to shrink by 75% from March when work programme is replaced by much smaller work and health programme.

Thousands of experienced employment coaches are expected to lose their jobs over the next few weeks as ministers trigger the first stage of a massive shakeout of the government-funded welfare to work sector that will see it shrink by 75%.

The employment services industry is preparing for what one insider called “a bloodbath” as the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) moves to replace the work programme with the much smaller work and health programme.

Background (from here).

In the November 2015 spending review the government announced that the current work programme, due to end in March 2017, will be replaced by a ‘work and health’ programme.

Currently central government, through the Department for Work & Pensions, delivers the current work programme, which is a universal programme for the long-term unemployed. That has run for nearly five years and it will continue to run now until 31 March 2017.

The aim of the new Work and Health programme is to shift the focus from what might be termed “orthodox unemployment” to people with physical and psychological barriers to employment.  The work and health programme therefore will focus on the very long-term unemployed – two years-plus of unemployment – as one element of the client group and then another element, the health element, will be those citizens that have health barriers.

Localism, integration and devolution are significant factors in the development of the new Work & Health Programme. The government is specifically talking about co-design and co-commissioning with certain authorities: Manchester, London, Sheffield, Tees Valley, the North East, Liverpool and the West Midlands, relating to devolution deals.

Then (October)

DWP have today published more details about its commissioning model for its new Umbrella Agreement for the provision of Employment & Health Related Services (UAEHRS), the framework through which it will appoint providers for the new Work & Health Programme, as well as other potential DWP contracts.

The UAEHRS will account for £1.77 billion of DWP spend on contracted provision over 4 years, although it is not clear how much of this will be allocated to the Work & Health Programme. The UAEHRS will be divided into 7 Lot areas, based on Jobcentre Plus operational boundaries, namely: Central England, North East England, North West England, Southern England, Home Counties England, Wales, and a national England & Wales Lot. It is not clear from this whether or not the two co-commissioned Work & Health Programme areas, London and Manchester, are included under the UAERS arrangement. It is equally unclear whether or not the proposed Lot areas will also be applied as the final Contract Package Areas for the Work & Health Programme.

Only 5 providers will be accepted onto each regional UAEHRS Lot, although this may be extended if there is a tie-break for fifth place. Providers securing a place on two or more Lots will automatically be included within the national England & Wales Lot. The competition to select providers onto the UAEHRS will test providers against a number of criteria, including economic and financial standing, previous contract performance, supply chain management, service integration, implementation, delivery challenges, and stakeholder engagement. At the time of writing, the UAEHRS competition documents have not yet been released. This is, however, expected imminently, with a response deadline of the 9th November. Full details can be accessed at dwp.bravosolution.co.uk.

More details:

Documents seen by the Guardian reveal that seven of the 15 work programme prime contractors, including big private sector names such as Serco and Maximus, have not made it on to the initial shortlist for the new scheme.

The work and health programme shortlist, which is to be officially announced next week, begins a process in which the remaining eight work programme firms will compete with three new entrants for just six new regional contracts.

The final outcome, expected when contracts are awarded in late spring, could result in some firms being forced to abandon the market, or diversify into other contracted out public service areas, such as criminal justice or apprenticeships.

“This decimates the welfare to work industry. It represents the unravelling of nearly 20 years of unemployment support experience,” one industry insider told the Guardian.

Work coaches provide long-term unemployed clients with help to acquire a range of employment and life skills designed to increase their chances of finding work, such as CV writing, IT skills and literacy, as well as liaising with potential employers.

Thousands of work coach jobs are expected to be lost. “This means large job losses among really experienced frontline advisers, the majority of which are in charities,” said Kirsty McHugh, the chief executive of the Employment Related Services Association.

The work and health programme is expected to start in the autumn and aims to provide specialist support for long-term unemployed people, especially those with health conditions or a disability.

Funding will be about £100m a year over four years. This is about a quarter of the current annual spending on the work programme, which closes at the end of March, and work choice, which will continue for a few months longer.

This is the bit which we’re particularly interested in.

The work programme – which was launched in 2011 by the then secretary of state for work and pensions, Iain Duncan Smith – achieved mixed results and was fiercely criticised for the low numbers of disabled and chronically ill people it succeeded in supporting into work.

It was also dogged by controversy over alleged misconduct by work coaches, and the high salaries earned by top executives. Emma Harrison, the founder of A4E, was criticised for paying herself dividends of £8.6m in 2011, on top of a £365,000 annual salary.

Harrison, who had a brief spell as former prime minister David Cameron’s “families tsar” sold her personal stake in A4E to Staffline group in 2015 for a reported £20m. The relaunched company, PeoplePlus, is shortlisted in all six work and health programme areas.

Industry insiders expressed surprise that Maximus – which has gained notoriety as the provider of the DWP’s controversial “fit for work” tests – failed to make the shortlist as it had been seen as one of the best performing work programme providers in terms of getting long-term jobless people into sustainable jobs.

Much as we may weep at the fate of coachies and ‘providers’ we note an absence of information on what this latest scheme will mean for people who’ll be obliged to be on it.

Will there still be obligatory  ‘volunteering’, work ‘placements’ (free labour for  employers and the ‘voluntary sector’) and the rest of the rigmarole?

Will the usual ‘courses’ be on?

We have no idea whatsoever.

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  1. same shite different colour shovel new name same old tripe the only thing providers are interested in is there fee not getting ppl in to work thats your job remember 😉

    so as always i will take part but i will not be signing any 3rd party contract 😉


    January 13, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    • I hear that, superted!

      jj joop

      January 14, 2017 at 9:35 am

  2. “Thousands of jobs to go in government shakeout of welfare to work sector” Well, boo-fucking-hoo! Pass us an onion. We won’t be shedding any tears for sure!

    The Crocodile Family

    January 13, 2017 at 7:11 pm

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  4. Can’t say I am in the least sorry, in my experience the last place I would go for help is the DWP (or DHSS department of ill health and antisocial insecurity) as we called it then. I was one of Paulines pen pushers, and I am also Daniel Blake, I hate the system with an intensity that cannot be described, we need genuine co-operative self help institutions, mutuals, and it is with much sadness that I see that the working class fight back is so reduced in my latter days. I live in fear of the Brown Envelope the loss of my DLA and reassessment for ESA. I have a story to tell about that. I nearly did not get to my assesment, the security tried to throw me out first, and that used to happen too whenever I wanted to see my so called DEA in the old days.


    January 13, 2017 at 8:47 pm

  5. I would point out the figures are inaccurate about funding – its going to get much much worse as BritExit is on the cards – and took the decision place before the new scheme was put in place it is therefore lacking the 1/3rd funding as the current schemes enjoy from the EU. To be clear just like the funding for science or anything else once the vote took place no new funding past that point would be forthcoming – and that is 1/3rd of overall funding. OOooopsss.


    January 13, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    • Yeah, we noticed that a flat-screen TV had shot of from £200 to £250. And it is not only essentials like flat-screen TVs that are shooting up luxury items such as groceries are too.

      The Shopaholics

      January 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    • Yeah, we noticed that a flat-screen TV had shot up from £200 to £250. And it is not only essentials like flat-screen TVs that are shooting up luxury items such as groceries are too.

      The Shopaholics

      January 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    • Brexit may be on the cards, it may not either. EU Regionalisation is being sold as Devolution across the UK, but this is only another means of control. http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/global-parliament-mayors-and-abolition-electorate As of 1/1/2020 we are to become EU Regions controlled by Metro Mayors and their respective MEP’s.
      We have also signed a new Procurement Law, introduced just before the Referendum, that basically bans us from buying British? http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/international-public-procurement-rules-lay-bare-lies-brexit/ This comes in 18th October 2018.
      As of May 2020 we’ll be Governed from Brussels, the House Of Parliament will be closed for repair and will reopen as the Grandiose London Regional Seat, as shown in the map here! http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html


      January 14, 2017 at 5:23 pm

  6. Slightly Off Topic. Check this out on Page 8 of today’s I Man is taking DWP to court over PIP being stopped. Has amnesia and has trouble coping with post and normal mail. DWP class this as a failure to comply. I will look for a link and repost when I find


    January 14, 2017 at 9:03 am

  7. go to the I newspaper online. search man to sue dwp


    January 14, 2017 at 9:10 am

  8. The Work Programme has already failed locally rumors were circulating for some time. PeoplePlus have closed their offices and moved twenty five miles away.Maximus went last year and headed twenty miles in the other direction both to areas with better prospects.Its clear what the motivation is.


    January 14, 2017 at 9:27 am

    • The motivation is: they’ve sucked the dregs out of this trough, but there are troughs elsewhere for them to bury their snouts in!

      Can anyone please tell me what’s happening to my avatar, it keeps changing colour? I am using the same email address and the same name.

      jj joop

      January 14, 2017 at 11:31 am

  9. Reblogged this on campertessblog.


    January 14, 2017 at 10:26 am

  10. OT: Gov Stupidity continues – Next Up Witch May vs GPs

    BBC headline news


    ME: Problem, there is a ‘Hygge’ problem with this…
    Who will this demand apply too as encouragement to stay in the NHS? The Locum doctors who’ve just been stitched up by good old Jeremy Hunt and who wants them to now shift over to being a GP perhaps?
    Or the current ageing rapidly and retiring in droves current GPs?
    What about the documented shortfall in new GPs?
    Could this new demand make things worse? Only if Pigs fly…

    Well I never, I just saw a pig fly past my window….


    January 14, 2017 at 10:32 am

    • A threat to yet more people.

      news seeker

      January 14, 2017 at 11:11 am

      • Exactly more finger pointing turn against on the hoof reactions.Most people in A&E are visibly ill just to look at and its unwise to take just appearances alone its clear that a GP surgery wont be able to cope with intravenous drips or people vomiting .Many hospitals’ don’t have A&E departments just have minor injury units anyway.

        Poll finds Theresa May is more trusted to run the NHS than shambolic Jeremy Corbyn despite winter crisis


        Many wouldn’t trust them holding a lollypop stop stick stopping traffic in the middle of the road.


        January 15, 2017 at 6:04 pm

  11. Work and Health programme, Working in the community for well maybe just enough to survive on.

    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 11:17 am

    • And the main barrier being the employer will come down too. they are waiting for this.

      news seeker

      January 14, 2017 at 12:00 pm

  12. The Work Programme was a failure and obviously destined for the scrap heap sooner or later. (Sooner than expected as far as I am concerned.) As were crap punishment regimes like Help-to-Work and such like. The only scheme with decent results was Work Choice, for sick and disabled people, which cost a lot of money but reported a 40% success rate in respect to positive outcomes: Work Choice is now going to be cut down and rolled into the Work & Health scheme, along with what is left of the Work Programme, a scheme which is being designed expressly to lever as many of the sick, disabled and over fifties into paid employment of any kind.


    Basically because the sick and disabled unemployed and underemployed cost far more to support, as far as social security goes, than the fit and able bodied. Older long-term unemployed people are also going to be under the thumb because that particular group has been steadily increasing to the point where government has decided it needs to act in order to make savings in the welfare budget. Work & Health is basically the Work Programme fused with the Work Choice scheme with only 25% of what was being spent on the two programmes jointly being spent on the new single programme. The Work Programme is only vanishing in name. Work & Health will probably affect more people in much the same ways as the Work Programme, only with one quarter of the resources and much less spent on individuals enrolled in it.

    How Work and Health works will be based on reducing costs and how it plays amongst the general public as far as Tory electoral success is concerned. At least half of the worst things the Tories did like capping benefits (“Why should they have more money than me to spend when I work hard and they do nothing?”) and cutting child support to large families (“Why do I have to pay for kids that promiscuous girls have out of wedlock?”) and workfare schemes (“If I have to work for my wages benefit claimants ought to work for their dole”) were done to win favour with a public that for the longest time approved of “crackdowns” on all any any benefit claimants.

    Based on how much is being spent on Work & Health I really can’t see how it could be anything but worse than the schemes which preceded it. Most of the long term unemployed, sick and disabled will end up on it if they’re unemployed for long enough, with the sick, disabled and people in their fifties and sixties supposedly lined up for “special attention”.

    I think that it is safe to say the the Work & Health Scheme isn’t going to be good.


    January 14, 2017 at 11:28 am

    • Thanks for that Simon.

      As you say anything worth while costs money.

      Despite the successes of Work Choice, the ‘training’ and the courses for the majority of the unemployed were always a joke.

      Now the already thin joke is set to wear out.

      Andrew Coates

      January 14, 2017 at 11:53 am

      • sick and disabled unemployed and underemployed cost far more to support, as far as social security goes, than the fit and able bodied.

        Many people eligible were put on the Work Programme and companies such as A4e did not want to know and were passed onto third parties. On return to the jobcentre were then exposed to the notorious treatment contained in the John Longdon Guardian article.


        January 15, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    • “in order to make savings in the welfare budget.”

      This is the Corporate Subsidies Fund, the tax payer gives a small fortune to company profits, by paying these people housing and money to make up their wages. We have to much competition in the wrong [cheap] places and not enough in others. We are being ran by cartels in; Banking [6] Supermarkets [6] Energy suppliers [6] Insurance Companies [6] and Garages [6]


      January 14, 2017 at 5:34 pm

      • Savings made by paying many fewer people benefits.


        January 14, 2017 at 5:48 pm

      • many fewer people? Your post doesn’t make sense Simon.
        We’d save a lot of money if people were paid enough to live on, why call it a ‘cost of living rise’, when it goes nowhere near?
        To many people CAN’T live on what they earn, if the company can’t pay the wage they shouldn’t be in business.
        I know a guy, runs his own ‘Take away’ he pays his staff minimum wage and claims he only pays himself the minimum, they all claim income support. Yet his ‘company’ has a fortune in the bank, if he was a Foreigner he could transfer this money home. These ‘tricks’ have to be stopped, he’s entitled to Income support, because it’s NOT HIS MONEY, it’s the companies.


        January 15, 2017 at 10:42 am

      • Exactly! If you can’t afford to pay your staff a decent wage your business isn’t viable and you shouldn’t even be in business. Had a boss like that once: “Times are tough. We are stretched financially. We just can’t afford to pay you. Sorry, mate 😦 ” Thing is the boss drove a brand-new beemer, lived in an elusive area of town, and his missus was always coming in with M & S bags. Just a piss-take.


        January 15, 2017 at 10:49 am

      • @ rollo57

        Universal Credit is on the way and the following six benefits are on the way out:

        Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
        Income-related Employment and Support Allowance
        Income Support
        Child Tax Credit
        Working Tax Credit
        Housing Benefit

        The saving I mention are based on what the government reckons it will save – supposedly billions – by moving people onto Universal Credit, reducing eligibility (they’ve already stopped unemployed people over thirty-five from receiving Housing Benefit more than rent for a single self-contained room in their area and will strip all entitlements for Housing Benefit away completely from most 18 to 21 year olds next April), and enforcing a regime based on strict conditionality to force them into more and more work – more hours, more jobs, or a better paid job or jobs – until they are earning enough not to receive Universal Credit. You will lose 65% of anything you earn while receiving Universal Credit, which gets deducted from whatever it is that you are receiving, reducing benefits received with Tax Credits and Income Support eventually be abolished.

        Social security will be much harder to get, much easier to lose, and much less than people are use to now.

        That’s how massive savings are supposed to be made in the welfare budget.

        The government reckons it can get over a million sick and disabled people into work by 2020, I believe, while spending only one third as much money as the used to while failing to achieve such spectacular successes previously.


        January 15, 2017 at 5:33 pm

      • Typo.

        For “over thirty-five” read “under thirty-five” in my comment above. Apologies.


        January 16, 2017 at 5:07 pm

  13. Westminster Council in plan to move homeless people out of London.

    Westminster Council is moving homeless people out of London to combat the high cost of temporary housing.

    Homeless people will be shifted from the borough and relocated to places elsewhere in the UK – likely the home counties – from January 30.


    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    • I used to live in London Borough Of Ealing. I applied to move back there, through exchange or transfer. I was told that being born in an area does not give you a right to (social) housing in that area. I could move with the London Borough Ealing if I could get on THEIR register. I could be moved into Coventry or Dudley though. I thought this was a piss take till I was made aware of a TV program called how to get a council house. I checked it out. Hounslow Borough Council send people to Coventry in the literal sense of the word


      January 15, 2017 at 10:55 am

  14. More regarding the Work and Health Programme.- Mind.

    The appointment of Mind’s chief executive to head an employment review for the prime minister has raised fresh concerns among disabled activists about the mental health charity’s closeness to the government.


    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    • The story shows a really vile individual, toady and parasite:

      “Farmer’s appointment comes only two months after he was caught lying to mental health activists outside Mind’s head office in east London (pictured) about the charity’s interest in seeking DWP contracts under its new Work and Health Programme.

      Farmer told protesters on 31 October that the charity had “no contracts with DWP” and that he was “not interested in future contracts at this stage”, but a disgruntled employee later leaked internal documents showing that Mind was applying to join a DWP framework that would allow it to bid for contracts.”

      Andrew Coates

      January 14, 2017 at 4:45 pm

      • Gps’ have refereed people to Minds offices and local staff from there have been referring onto to other organisations.

        NHS paperwork has been seen in Minds use.


        January 15, 2017 at 6:18 pm

  15. On the bright side who could be better placed to find new jobs after being made redundant that Work Coaches? They earned their living by advising others how to find work didn’t they? So they should be able to quickly find alternative employment shouldn’t they? With all that expertise in respect to CVs and the local job market what would recently made redundant Work Coaches have to worry about after being given their marching orders?

    Broken Toy

    January 14, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    • That is so so true.

      I am sure they will find it easy to get a new job as you point out with their hard earned expertise.


      January 14, 2017 at 9:06 pm

  16. Community Work Placements hosts.

    a long list………..


    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 10:18 pm

  17. The Director General of the Universal Credit Service Neil Couling has recently confirmed that advisers cannot use implicit consent to assist claimants in the universal credit full service, in giving evidence on universal credit roll-out to the Scottish Social Security Committee. See http://www.parliament.scot/parliamentary….

    The existing published guidance “Working with representatives: guidance for DWP staff” is available at https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio…. From Mr. Couling’s evidence, this guidance appears that this has been superseded.

    Please provide the new guidance and policy, particularly regarding changes regarding implicit consent.


    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    • news seeker

      it appears a lotof chikens are coming home to roost all of a sudden. Information Act? Breech of Duty of care? Human Rights Act? Contract Law? Legal Authority to force things on people? The list is longer than that.


      January 15, 2017 at 12:08 pm

  18. EU universal income must be ‘seriously considered’ as rise of robots threatens mass unemployment, say MEPs.
    We have to think about universal revenue, because if there are so many unemployed people, we need to insure that they can have a decent life, says MEP Ms Delvaux-Stehres

    The report, which passed by 17 votes to 2 and will be put in front of the entire European Parliament in February, urges member states to consider a general basic income in preparation for robots taking over people’s jobs.


    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    • “If people understood how our Economy worked, there’d be riots by morning” – Henry Ford.

      Our Economy is a numbers racket, ran by Fed Res, BoE & ECB with BIS as overseers. MONEY is created every time a loan is made and ADDED to our GDP as it’s spent into the economy. They use ‘Government Bonds’ as collateral. When the money is paid back, that money is destroyed, no longer in the economy, we HAVE to create more, it’s what GROWTH relies on!
      We lose billions every year on Trade deals, at present we have a €94bn DEFICIT with EU, our money is made from Consumer Spending, which comes from loans. This is why we rely on Immigrants, because we have 20 million Economically In-Active [can’t get a loan] ONS figures.
      Why can’t the Government create it’s own money, Sovereign money, that banks can’t make profit on and issue interest free for Social Infrastructure? IF banks used their own money we wouldn’t have this mess!
      If we weren’t in EU we could INVEST in our own workforce, build ships, cars, trains, make steel, like we used to! Perhaps then we wouldn’t need FOOD BANKS, Universal Payment?


      January 15, 2017 at 10:30 am

      • Fancy a new car, holiday, kitchen? We have just the loan for you 🙂

        Coates Loans

        January 15, 2017 at 10:38 am

      • Exactly! This is why we have 20 million can’t get a loan, they weren’t vetted properly. Far too many people have a licence to issue loans.


        January 15, 2017 at 10:53 am

      • And pawnbrokers.

        Not so long ago they were so rare you would have had a hard job finding one.

        Not exactly the case today.

        Andrew Coates

        January 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm

      • Yep, ‘new goods for old’, change the name from ‘Pawnbroker’ to Cash-converter, but I was referring to the likes of ‘Supermarkets’ and such, that now offer loans, via the banking system. The ‘criteria’ to meet is now watered down, in favour of a bigger GDP. These ‘loan sharks’ aren’t interested if the people can’t repay, the court system will deal with that. If people are stupid enough to turn up!
        It’s all about knowing the system.


        January 16, 2017 at 10:01 am

      • Marie your comment has been ‘moderated’

        ““If people understood how our Economy worked, there’d be riots by morning” – Henry Ford. Our Economy is a numbers racket, ran by Fed Res, BoE & ECB with BIS as overseers. MONEY is created every time a loan is made and ADDED to our GDP as it’s spent into the economy. They use ‘Government […]

        Government would be able to create it’s own debt free currency if it kicked the Rothschild mafia out, like Hungary and Russia have done, I can’t see our zog gov doing it they’re a bunch of effing cowards.

        Yes, I totally agree, but why do you suppose we can’t get the Paedophiles in jail?

        They are being protected by the Banking Cartel who are dictating policy. This is why America go round bombing nations, to force them back into the dollar. The Rothschild bank was established in Libya as the war raged around them! The BRICS want to trade in Gold backed currencies, which is why they set TPP-TTIP-CETA up against them. These Treaties, once all three are signed, unite all those nations as one, NWO, against those who oppose, BRICS, who will be forced in by war!


        January 16, 2017 at 10:16 am

  19. A disabled benefit claimant is set to take the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to court over its refusal to allow him to communicate with its civil servants via email.

    Mark Lucas is facing a reassessment of his personal independence payment (PIP) claim next month, but is refusing to return his claim form by post because he does not think a paper-based system is secure.

    He has asked DWP to allow him to communicate via email as a reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act, but says he was told this was not possible.

    Lucas, from Staffordshire, told Disability News Service (DNS) that he does not trust DWP to deal with benefit claims by paper because it previously altered a written statement he had submitted in 2013 as part of a jobseeker’s allowance (JSA) claim while he was at university, and then accused him of fraud and fined him £2,500.

    DWP eventually agreed that he would not have to pay the fine, he said, after he proved that a DWP officer had added a paragraph to the statement,

    He has secured legal aid and a lawyer to fight his case and seek damages for disability discrimination.


    news seeker

    January 14, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    • What I would like to see is the DWP senior civil servant who advises the Minister (allegedly) and the Minister in open court be made to account on why sanctions are justified. I had to change a PIP re assessment as I had a hospital appointment. I then had to cancel the second appointment as I was taken into hospital. I phoned ATOS and explained. They were less than sympathetic. I phoned the PIP helpline (Based in Telford). They were more sympathetic and told me to keep evidence that I was in hospital. I have kept my wristband and discharge letter. By the way. Telford is where the DWP Mail sort centre is. The WV99 postcode is a non geographic post code. Check it out on streetview. It is TRAFFORD PARK TELFORD.


      January 15, 2017 at 10:32 am

  20. The soon to be unemployed in the welfare to work sector should heed their own advice: “If I ever found myself in the position of being unemployed I would take ANY job, absolutely anything.”

    Worker Bee

    January 15, 2017 at 10:33 am

    • They will soon change their tune when they are on the *other* side of the desk though: “I am looking for a suitable role commensurate with my skills and experience.”

      Queen Bee

      January 15, 2017 at 10:42 am

  21. “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

    — Cicero


    January 15, 2017 at 11:32 am

    • Cicero

      Thanks to Farage/UKIP we are all about to discover the truth of that.

      It is truly hitting the fan now – methinks the EU Ambassador resignation finally got through to the thickheads that this is serious.

      The considered response on this realisation of reality in trying to force someone else to do your bidding? Chancellor hinting of starting a Trade War with the EU – you know, we are off, you give us what we want or else. No you won’t? Okay lets start a trade war, you know 1 country vs 27. We’ll be in control of our destiny at last – we will win – this is how Witch May thinks. Really?

      This is going to end very very badly


      January 15, 2017 at 12:05 pm

      • Gazza, are you for real, have you looked at the ‘Trade figures’? We are in Deficit with EU to the tune of €94bn, WE HAVE NEVER MADE ANY MONEY ON TRADE IN OUR 43 YEARS IN EEC-EU! We lose circa £5bn EVERY year, that is unsustainable. We are in Surplus with the rest of the world, which erases some of that Deficit, but we still lose money every year!
        We are about to be controlled by Corporations & Banks [TTIP] this would make us all slaves and promote their NWO One World Government. Open your eyes!

        The ‘Devolution’ they are promoting; http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/global-parliament-mayors-and-abolition-electorate – is in reality EU Regionalisation, which comes in [supposedly] 1/1/2020. We have already signed our life away; http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/international-public-procurement-rules-lay-bare-lies-brexit/ – with rules that stop us BUYING British, after 18th October 2018?


        January 16, 2017 at 9:37 am

      • Rollo

        te best explanations for my views on BritExit are below:

        bst smmng up so far abt pound devaluing;
        675. Posted by Armchair Bore on
        3 minutes ago
        635. blablablacksheep on

        “And the losers – everyone else – higher prices – more expensive holidays….”

        I’m not particularly worried about the cost of a holiday. It’s the cost of production that is priced in Euros that has caused us problems over the last 6 months. However, all it means is that we have to cut costs, which ultimately means people lose work or get paid less.

        673. Posted by DAO on
        3 minutes ago
        Fact, with a weak currency comes increased inflation – no fake news. Unless wages keep pace with inflation, real money in your pocket devalues = less spending power = drop off in consumer spending, unless fuelled by further consumer debt. If interest rates increase = further squeeze on spending power and more JAMs – doesn’t take an “expert” to figure that one out.

        668. Posted by StVitus on
        17 minutes ago
        653 – The likely result will be a severe spike in inflation

        yes – but you can bet that there wont be a parallel rise in wages. I’ve been away for just over a week. I was shocked at the fuel prices when I got back. We’re only just starting to see the impact of the weak pound. When the 20-30% rise in cost of fuel and commodities hits the price of manufacturing, we’ll all be in for a huge shock.

        I did 19 years service in the Department of trade & industry. We are not yet even seeing the tip of the effects due to the pound turmoil – if it dips below 90….


        January 16, 2017 at 3:22 pm

      • rollo57

        as far as TTIP corporation control is concerned it was and is being pushed by US Firms – not EU ones, the only reason why its not in place now is due to EU citizens blocking it in the EU Parliament.

        Can you see the Tories, with Witch May at the forefront blocking the same deal between UK & US?
        it will be one of the unintended consequences of BritExit.


        January 16, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    • Watch yourself, Cissy!


      January 15, 2017 at 5:40 pm

  22. Britain braces for civil war as brexit date looms.



    January 15, 2017 at 4:20 pm

  23. It just occurred to me that we were talking about the funding of this last year when the changes were first announced.

    What sticks in my mind is the scale of it – some might remember I pointed to a link from Manchester council where I had found the estimated total funding to be £1.5 billion. Before that the government stated that it was going down to 300mil. Now its 100 mil? That is a huge huge drop. So between then and now 1.2 billion has just vanished.

    How many other scheme’s are affected in the same way?


    January 15, 2017 at 5:10 pm

  24. DWP admits numbers using Jobcentres are unknown despite plans to close half of services in Glasgow



    January 15, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    • One would have thought DWP have exact figures for those using its jobcenters. After all, they would know who is meant to be signing. It would be more the case, DWP don’t want to admit the numbers of folks affected will be huge.

      There are some serious questions needing asked here, and not enough of the politicians are doing that. Let us look at 2 of the planned closures for the moment.

      Maryhill is a huge office, and covers a vast area. Closing that, and merging it with Springburn will cause major problems for many who would find it hard to get to Springburn from the many locations served by Maryhill. Its not as simple as taking a number 89/90 bus down the Bisland Drive. Not much use to folks who don’t live on that route, and not everyone lives near a rail line with a train to central Springburn. Then there are the plans to close Anniselnad and send folks to Partick, which is a rather smallish office. Anniesland is massive. How is a thing the size of Partick meant to cope with all these extra signers?
      But, the greatest scandal here is that City of Glasgow gave planning permission to DWP to turn that office into an apartment block. Why was that kept secret, and what did DWP tell the councillors almost one full year ago, what they intended to do for those using Anniesland?

      That Labour councillors were in on this closure, but no else knew ’till a week before Christmas, is an outrage. If so. it shows Labour up in a real bad way. If on the other hand, city councillors were give assurances a new office was planned for nearby, and it is DWP changing its stance, then planning permission ought to be withdrawn here and now.

      Other closures such as Castlemilk and Bridgeton will also cause huge problems for many. Both these jobcenters are purpose built DWP offices, Bridgeton having been opened not too many years ago by David Martin, I think it was. The memorial plate inside lists the info.

      Both the Scottish Government and Glasgow, ought to make it clear to DWP, these ideas are not acceptable, and will not allow DWP to close them. Glasgow can also make it clear, it will not allow any other use for these premises. There are ways, and things that can be done. We wonder at the seeming silence, certainly of Glasgow Labour politicians in all of this.

      Evening Times

      January 15, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    • “numbers using Jobcentres are unknown”/i>
      They’re scared of anyone working out that unemployment is 40%.

      Another Fine Mess

      January 17, 2017 at 2:29 am

  25. Work and Health Programme, the near future in video 😉


    January 15, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    • It will crash and burn if we all take a leaf out of your book, superted, i.e. don’t sign any provider paperwork. But how many people will step up, though. That’s the thing. From my time on the Work Programme, I remember most people were either clueless or spineless. Most of them just went along and signed the data protection waiver, allowing the pimp to pimp them out. I didn’t sign anything. Still had to pitch up every fortnight for two hours, just to show my face. But that was it. I was not pimped.

      jj joop

      January 16, 2017 at 12:07 pm

      • JJ joop

        Hope ur okay?

        This will give you a laugh. Signed off of sick at moment – now have proof after 15 years of pain suffering from – WP idiots tried to order me to tell them when I would be well again. How long is a length of string?. They went further and ordered me to turn up today at the office. Nope, I am not doing that.

        I am waiting for the call from them which I will record due to the harrassment.

        They’ll do Anything and I mean anything for a payment .


        January 16, 2017 at 1:01 pm

      • Hey Gazza

        Yeah I’m OK, just about anyway. Your latest encounter with the pimp comes as no surprise. None of them seem to have a bloody clue. They would phone me regularly and ask why I had stopped attending. I told them to check their accounts and they would see they paid me travel money every fortnight. Just another day on the WP. Hey-ho!

        jj joop

        January 16, 2017 at 3:51 pm

  26. ooooo brown envelope in my post box wonder what this is, its a failed to attend letter and i have to give a good reason why i did not attend, PMSL.

    and they want i back in 5 days at my local jcp, thats a new one lol to bad i have a letter from provider stating i fails to participate because i would not sign the sfa contract so they would not get there £1000 fee for feck all.

    and they asked me to leave under the health and safety act so how can i fail to participate if they are the ones throwing me out the building hahahha.;)


    January 16, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    • superted

      is this about the FTA from late last year? i thought that was sorted.


      January 16, 2017 at 4:30 pm

  27. yeah its for that tho dunno why they are even bothering to try it as they should know buy now i cant get sanctioned for not signing paper work from the provider.

    as ever it is not signed so doubt it is from my adviser as not even been brought up again so looks like they hope i will not fill it in and return it in time is all they have left i guess lol.


    January 16, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    • Yeah, but the crafty fuckers probably think that you have forgotten all about it, and thrown out/lost the letter/evidence 😉

      TCon Board

      January 16, 2017 at 9:49 pm

      • i keep everything inc the bus tickets thing is my last adviser put me on the so called course then dumped me on to a new adviser then after the course had finished i asked the new adviser for my bus fair back only to be told there was nothing on the system about me on the course or the letter that the provider sent to them?

        so as no course was on the system no bus fair according to the new adviser weird lol.

        last time i signed on new adviser said nothing about it and went as normal.

        now out the blue get an non attendance letter near 2 months later in the post from the local office.

        all i can think off is that they hope i will not fill it in and send it back on time well that not going to happen.

        i have proof of bus travel over 2 days.

        i have a letter from the provider stating i failed to participate and the reason for this is not signing there sfa contract, o dear.

        so there lying to try get me a sanction it will not work as i did not say i was not willing to participate just i will not sign any 3rd party contracts.

        i was asked to leave under the grounds of health and safety and thats bollocks as i signed in and out on the first day and told to leave on the 2nd in the hope id be a no show.

        the letter also states i can go back if i wanted but must sign the sfa contract errr fuck that if they want there £1000 fee then get it from the dwp/jcp budget.

        to sanction me for not signing a 3rd party contract is unlawful as i can not be forced under threat of sanction to sign a 3rd party contract it has to be voluntary.

        if they want to try it then i will take them to a tribunal over it no matter how long it takes and nail the bastards to the wall.


        January 16, 2017 at 10:19 pm

  28. tho if there now trying to sanction me for it they can now also cough up the bloody bus fair for it when i hand it in 😉


    January 16, 2017 at 4:44 pm

  29. New universal credit rules which could leave 200,000 claimants waiting six months for their benefit have sparked fresh fears over increased tenant rent arrears.


    It just gets worse and worse.


    January 16, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    • Simon

      Thanks for finding this article – it was mentioned in the previous blog post here. just to note that the regulations kicked in in April 06.


      January 16, 2017 at 5:55 pm

  30. This is the REAL reason why food in the UK (and Europe) is so fucking expensive and why we are becoming ill because we can’t afford to buy produce. Go outside Europe and you will find an abundance of cheap, healthy produce but not in Europe (the UK) where we suffer under the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy). We pay the landed gentry and the Queen even who incidentally trousers half a million euros a year from this scheme for NOT cultivating land.

    And then we DESTROY perfectly good produce produce to keep the prices in the shops artificially high. Yet we never seem to hear about it, not even during the Brexit campaign.

    1. WASTE

    By ignoring the rules of supply and demand, the Common Agricultural Policy is hugely wasteful. It leads to overproduction, forming mountains of surplus produce which are either destroyed or dumped on developing nations, undermining the livelihoods of farmers there. A free market would ensure a more effective allocation of resources. Managing the CAP eats up vast amounts of money: from 6.7 % of CAP payments disbursed in France, to 9.3% in Germany.


    Farmers represent 3% of the EU’s population. They generate (together with the agri-food business) roughly 6% of the Union’s GDP. Yet they receive 30% of the EU’s total budget through CAP handouts. Europe’s taxpayers hand over €58 billion in subsidies to this tiny, unproductive minority. In times of economic hardship that just doesn’t make sense.


    The idea that the CAP protects small farmers and the rural way of life is a myth. Eighty percent of CAP aid goes to just 20 percent of farms. The biggest slice of the subsidy pie is handed to the landed gentry, environment- destroying mega-farms and vast agro-industrial conglomerates. Figures from the UK show Queen Elizabeth II gets around half-a-million euros a year. Food industry giants like Campina or Nestle have been handed hundreds of millions. Small-scale European farmers get little and poor farmers in developing nations are shut out of European markets.


    CAP is a double-whammy for your wallet. Taxpayers fork out billions in subsidies then pay again when CAP artificially inflates food prices. CAP supporters say this is a price worth paying for food security, but that’s nonsense. With free trade we could import bountiful cheap food from the United States, Canada, China and elsewhere in the globalised world. Food security just isn’t a problem. CAP artificially shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern, more efficient agriculture.

    And the arguments for the CAP are utter baloney


    Pommy Granate

    January 16, 2017 at 10:26 pm

  31. HMRC criticised over handling of benefit sanctions contract

    Tax officials ignored chaos within the outsourcing firm Concentrix and nearly trebled payments to the company despite overwhelming evidence of failure, Whitehall’s spending watchdog has disclosed.

    Despite increasing complaints from benefit claimants, Concentrix was paid £23m in commission after its rates were raised from 3.9% to 11%, a report from the National Audit Office states. HM Revenue and Customs has been forced to apologise for management of the contract.

    The report’s findings have angered MPs and campaigners who believe HMRC showed indifference to the suffering of claimants whose benefits were wrongly cut or stopped altogether.

    Louise Haigh, the shadow minister for the digital economy, said Concentrix and HMRC showed a level of neglect that should have no place in the welfare system.



    January 17, 2017 at 9:20 am

    • The onus should always be proof of guilt must be offered by the accuser rather than proof of innocence by the accused. Concetrix used to point the finger, very often wrongly, and people who couldn’t prove their innocence quickly enough, or at all, were sanctioned harshly and completely wrongly. People shouldn’t have to prove their innocence and should be considered innocent until proven guilty, not the other way round. The sanctions regime is completely unjust and perverse.

      And the truth is that neither HRMC or the DWP give a toss about the suffering of benefit claimants.

      If government can get away with something, no matter how underhand, to save money it will these days.

      This is the world we live in.

      Broken Toy

      January 17, 2017 at 10:24 am

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