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Universal Credit, “unmitigated disaster”.

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Universal Credit system is increasingly Kafka-esque.

The Herald reports today,

Since it was first mooted by then Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith back in in 2010, Universal Credit has rarely been out of the news.

This major reform of the welfare system – which replaces six separate benefits and tax credits with one payment – was supposed to improve a number of things, not least making work pay for the lowest earners and streamlining a system that has been creaking under the strain for some time.

Three years after the roll-out of the policy, however, it’s fair to say neither of these things have come to pass; indeed many would argue that the introduction of Universal Credit has been an unmitigated disaster.

Among them is likely to be Glasgow City Council which, like local authorities up and down the land, is left to pick up the pieces when mistakes are made.

A recent document revealed Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) staff mistakenly transferred 73 homeless claimants on to the new benefit, despite the fact they are supposed to be exempt until 2018. One of the consequences of this has been that each of these claimants now has an average of £2,000 in housing arrears each, creating a deficit of almost £145,000 for the council.

The DWP says its system does not allow a change of status for those involved, meaning the claimants in question are locked-in to Universal Credit through no fault of their own.

The Council will have to pick up the tab, and the longer this goes on, the more serious the financial loss will be for a body already facing swingeing austerity cuts to its budgets. According to some, cuts to both service provision and jobs are now on the cards to pay for the deficit. Not even Franz Kafka could have made up this level of bureaucratic incompetence; it’s surely time for the DWP to take responsibility for its mistakes and focus on services for those on Universal Credit rather than extending another failing system.

This is the document they refer to:

Homeless people on new benefit owe Glasgow £144,000

HOMELESS individuals and families on the UK Government’s controversial Universal Credit scheme are racking up huge arrears putting services and jobs at risk in Scotland’s largest city, according to a new report.

In a report detailing the impact of the new benefit on homeless people in the city, the council says Glasgow City Council said errors by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) have been compounding the problem by mistakenly transferring homeless people on to the initiative.

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Written by Andrew Coates

January 11, 2017 at 10:46 am

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  1. KEN LOACH BACKS GLASGOW JOBCENTRE RESCUE PLAN

    Loach said “the plan to shut half the city [of Glasgow’s] jobcentres was further proof of a conscious campaign to “humiliate and degrade” those suffering poverty”.

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15013615.Jobcentre_closures_part_of_____humiliating_and_degrading_policy___/

    Relay

    January 11, 2017 at 10:55 am

    • The whole thing is just a product of failure plain and simple.Under theTories its been a complete and utter disaster from start to finish.What to do with the aftermath of decades of unemployment and economic downturn where the people who should be manufacturing and innovating. This now go it alone policy were simply rubbished and now discarded by way of anti propaganda as if they were somehow to blame and support equally.

      Anything that was an asset was creamed off and sold abroad as a takeover.The infamous Lord Young noted on breakfast tv as saying that the UK made the worst cars in the world however who bought the brand names.

      Its now turned into what amounts to a racist campaign against our European neighbours over immigration for the sake of politics back home and May being ignored. What this shows how irrelevant she is in the bigger picture this has the potential to be a national catastrophe with long lasting repercussions .

      Cameron turned Libya into a failed state with his blundering incompetence and weak leadership and looks to have created a path to that here too.

      ken

      January 11, 2017 at 11:51 am

  2. When you appoint delusional liar and incompetent cod-religious dimwit with a messiah complex to completely overhaul and reform a country’s social security system, from the hard right of the Conservative party, giving him free reign to run riot and cause havoc completely ignoring the chaos and suffering caused to the innocent and the helpless, failure and tragedy could only ever be the result. With a Jonah like Iain Duncan Smith at the tiller where else could the ship have ended other than on the rocks? It was like putting King Herod in charge of childcare.

    Martin

    January 11, 2017 at 11:10 am

    • On the “tearful” Easterhouse “Epiphany” of IDS

      “he that oppresseth the poor reproacheth his Maker”

      Equity

      January 11, 2017 at 11:17 am

    • Martin you are being too kind, far too kind….

      Andrew Coates

      January 11, 2017 at 11:35 am

  3. Just incase anybody is interested the free Opera browser comes with a free unlimited VPN which can be used to prevent snooping by the government. I’m using it now. It’s like a better version of Google Chrome. Check it out.

    http://www.opera.com/

    Paul

    January 11, 2017 at 11:24 am

  4. Benefit cheat teenager took over £3,000 – because he had bills to pay

    http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/benefit-cheat-teenager-took-over-12433133

    You know for all this talk of claimants not wanting to work, faking disability and are defrauding the system, it never ceases to amaze me how many benefits fraudsters brought before a judge are either working or living with someone whose working. When you stack which i have done for the past year news articles online of benefit fraud cases let alone court records, the amount working or living with someone whose working absolutely outweighs the disability fakers.
    Although its not a clever practice at any time, i must say im impressed this lad was honest enough to admit why he did it as it does reflect the plight many working people/families are currently facing on low wages and insecure hours even when they do total around 40 hours a week. Coupled with the recent data on the public personal average debt of around 27.6% of weekly income per person which includes all those working but not claiming, this is not a good sign for the year ahead.

    It appears despite the great welfare reform that is UC, the NLW, increase in tax allowance before paying tax, stagnated NIC system, that people are not only no better off now than they were last year but also in cases actually worse off than last year.

    Surely its time the Tories admit when they said” we will make work pay”, its time to rephrase it to, “we will make work pay someday,like when we figure out how the hell to do it”.

    doug

    January 11, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    • People on Universal Credit doing part-time work are definitely not better off, Doug, or not much better off. I know this from experience after being put on Universal Credit and doing part-time work. For a start unless you earn enough to get off Universal Credit you get 65% (or is it 63% now) of your earnings deducted from your Universal Credit and only keep 35% (37%). Then if you have to pay bus or train fare plus more Council Tax you end up either hardly better off for doing your part-time job and possibly even worse off if your journey to work and back is pricey. The number of times my Work Coach has told me to apply for ten hours of work here or fifteen hours of work there, with the work hours split over three to five days, meaning travelling to work for only two or three hours minimum wage reward, saying “It’s better than nothing” is nobody’s business.

      The idea that two or more part-time “mini-jobs” (as David Freud called them) can be kind of glued together to give an income equal to a full-time job is hogwash. In practice it is very difficult to juggle several jobs and travel between all of them on a daily basis, although there are people I know that work all day and in the evenings too to make it possible. One girl I know does cleaning work in the mornings, laundry work in the afternoon and waitressing and bar work in a hotel in the evening, working from seven in the morning to one or two the next morning: without tips received from guests at the hotel her work alone isn’t equal to a 35 hour job on the minimum wage and she still has to visit her Work Coach on a weekly basis to look for more or better paid work.

      Universal Credit put me into rent arrears and debt and has never made part-time work pay enough to enable me to pay off my rent arrears or get clear of the debt which the social security system forced on me.

      Universal Credit is shit.

      Worse than shit really because at least shit can be used as manure tom make plants grow whereas Universal Credit is wholly toxic, damaging and poisonous. I hate to think that other people who have lost their jobs are going to be put through the wringer like I have. Universal Credit hasn’t helped me at all and ruined my life by condemning me to a future full of debt and anxiety.

      Paul

      January 11, 2017 at 3:34 pm

  5. Had to go to a volunteering fair at the joke centre today.What about a proper jobs fair,’oops’ forgot that there aren’t any proper jobs,and how the fuck is volunteering at the British fart foundation going to put bread on the table!

    foxglove

    January 11, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    • Claimants have reported to me that these fairs are mostly all recruitment agencies and not companies.

      Was that your experience foxglove ?

      doug

      January 11, 2017 at 4:55 pm

      • Love the idea of ‘having’ to go to a ‘volunteering’ fair.

        I also ‘have to’ go to a to a ‘volunteer’ centre in the next week.

        Andrew Coates

        January 11, 2017 at 5:06 pm

      • I’ve been to a few joke fairs that were just recruitment agencies Doug,this is the second volunteering fair i’ve been sent to,proves there isn’t any jobs!

        foxglove

        January 11, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      • A ‘charity fair’ that’s a new one on me FFS 🙁

        Marie

        January 11, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    • Marie

      January 11, 2017 at 6:08 pm

      • Scum of the earth workfare exploiters!

        foxglove

        January 11, 2017 at 6:35 pm

      • I would not do anymore of that volunteering again.It was the method of choice for those leaving the work programme by jobcentre staff bullying people into charity shops one had a pile of applications from the unemployed supposedly to obtain a reference.What then happened volunteers were treated as easy come and easy go and sacking became the norm then lies emerged leaving people feeling used and abused made fools of.The attitude was terrible from part time managers.One of these charity shops locally sacked all their disabled staff I was informed.

        Jobcentre plus now couldn’t care less about people.It wouldn’t be surprising if those signing long term don’t have any references at all these need constantly updating and without these chances are even slimmer.Jobcentre plus like the unemployed isn’t working.

        ken

        January 12, 2017 at 6:40 am

  6. Caught out by Facebook, vanity, addiction on trial.

    You would think by now the public would learn not to broadcast their life online but oh no as yet another person gets caught with the fingers in the cookie jar. From facebook to twitter (case of young guy wanting to have surgery at taxpayer expense so he claimed or mother spending welfare on presents,etc), will the public learn, WHEN YOU MAKE THINGS PUBLIC, EVEN IF IT WOULD UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES BE LEGALLY CONSIDERED PERSONAL DATA, YOU ARE INFACT LEGALLY CONSENTING TO HAVING SAID PERSONAL DATA SEEN AND TREATED AS NON PERSONAL DATA.

    NON PERSONAL data be it consented to being public or as defined under law NOT BEING PERSONAL DATA (ie browsing history) DOES NOT REQUIRE A WARRANT.

    PERSONAL DATA IS LEGALLY DEFINED AS – Any two or more pieces of data that when added together can be used to identify a person specifically as that person.

    This means NON PERSONAL DATA can been shared with anyone be they business or person, even government/department.

    doug

    January 11, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    • Doug, say for the sake of argument you find yourself up in court one day, say for a sexual offence. The prosecuting barrister is trying to paint a picture of you as some sort of sexual deviant so they have taken the liberty of rifling through your internet browsing history (as you say NON PERSONAL DATA): “You have a particular penchant for internet porn sites, doug”. “Doug, ‘scuse me, Sir. What being penchant means. Some of us haven’t been to grammar school, Sir No fancy qualifications for me, Sir”. Barrister: “Let me rephrase that, you spend rather a long time viewing internet porn sites, don’t you?” So what does the hapless doug do? Argue that, there, is no connection between him and the device since the browsing history isn’t personal data, and the prosecuting barrister can’t prove that it was doug’s fingers on the keyboard? Barrister: “Come, come now doug, are you seriously suggesting that it isn’t your name on the account print out, Exhibit A members of the jury, and that you aren’t in fact the owner of the Internet Access Device, Exhibit B members of the jury?”

      Crown Court

      January 11, 2017 at 5:22 pm

      • Crown court

        Now unless the police can connect you with said device physically like you signed in to use a computer at the library with your real details and allotted a specific computer or was videoed etc, they wouldn’t be able to tie it to you unless of course you registered with real personal details to said porn site.

        In the case of a mobile phone, just being in possession of when arrested isn’t necessarily physical evidence SO could only be offered to the court as balance of probabilities and thus requiring more cogent evidence to satisfy the court as its not inconceivable someone else used the device the accused was arrested with to access said porn site.
        A good defense solicitor would prevent prosecution uttering this in court if not backed by more cogent evidence prior as it is without just a suggestion (might have happened), not a fact and courts can only entertain facts as in it either happened or it didn’t happen.

        SO IN REFERENCE TO A DEFENSE OF ” isn’t personal data” its irrelevant as personal,sensitive or not, the only thing that matters is,

        Is it relevant to the case as just watching general porn say no matter how much does not tantamount to supporting evidence of assault,rape or otherwise because that’s like saying everyone who watches porn will or have gone onto sexually assault or rape a person which is flat out ridiculous.

        Lastly can the accused be physically connected to it if it is relevant.

        Now a tactic of an inexperienced or crafty weak prosecution is to throw that in the ring in an attempt to paint a picture without any regard to whether or not its relevant so that’s why i mentioned any good solicitor wouldn’t let that happen. You see as soon as proceedings begin (CPS have enough evidence to prosecute even if still gathering) both defense and prosecution must share there evidence prior to any court case proceeding. Now they can enter new evidence during a trial by addressing the judge prior to entering it but again must make it privy to defense who should ask for a recess or postponement of legal proceedings to consider the new evidence if warranted.

        doug

        January 11, 2017 at 11:46 pm

      • Crown court part 2

        I can see by the cobbled court case hypothesis you clearly dont understand what i said in the post you replied to but that’s ok as most dont understand the different types of data’s, there transitioning and the associated laws.

        You have personal and or sensitive data which is protected by law unless an exemption applies and you have non personal data that’s not covered by any law and is completely open for anyone to use.

        Examples –

        If you have a list ONLY of names (ie john smith,adam smith,alan watts,tom fisher,etc), this is considered NON PERSONAL DATA

        Now if you have a list with these same names but have individual home addresses or phone number to each, this is considered as PERSONAL DATA.

        You see a single name unless extremely rare in use (highly unlikely) cannot by itself identify a person as that particular person which under law is termed DATA SUBJECT as they’re lots of say John smiths even in one city. This means you need further data to separate one from the other like a home address for instance.

        Hence my original comment “PERSONAL DATA IS LEGALLY DEFINED AS – Any two or more pieces of data that when added together can be used to identify a person specifically as that person”

        Now an IP No and even device No DO NOT by themselves constitute as personal data as while they tie an IP to a device, they DON’T TIE the device to a specific person and why alone they are unimportant as yet.

        Now in your court hypothesis and why it was rather pointless was that the pornsite evidence wasn’t actually evidence required in that watching porn unless the victim was in the particular porn video the accused was watching does not establish a physical link between victim and attacker. You see without that direct incontrovertible evidence like DNA for instance first and foremost, No living prosecutor would ever attempt to take to court let alone enter into evidence such porn browser data as their only evidence and expect to get a conviction. It would never happen unless by itself said browsing activity was illegal like say pedophilia websites for example.

        Where browsing data could come into it is probably better seen in the case of a terrorist for example like the one recently of a lad who was looking to go abroad to a certain area and was caught with a suitcase in his child’s bedroom with things like a night scopes,ammunition pouches,etc. By themselves prosecution has a weak case so to bolster it to ensure conviction as they’re certain he is a would be terrorist or will aid one but lack that smoking gun, will set about looking for paraphernalia like does he use the library and if so, what books has he been reading, online websites visited, books or paperwork at home,people he talked or talks to,etc. This is known as corroborating evidence.

        doug

        January 12, 2017 at 1:00 am

      • It could reasonably be argued that a pervert is someone who doesn’t watch internet porn but nevertheless this hypothetical court case demonstrates one of the dangers of your internet activity being logged: Every website and internet service you use will be logged and may be used in evidence.

        In their not so subtle attempt to paint a picture the prosecution barrister could also throw into the ring the fact that the defendant is unemployed, not a shred of evidence but what sort of picture is this forming in the minds of the members of the jury. Not looking good for the defendant (doug), is it?

        Can anyone offer ONE good reason, just ONE circumstance that logging an individual’s internet activity would be of any conceivable benefit to said individual? In what way does leaving data trails benefit the individuals whose data is being logged? Of course if you have nothing to fear you have nothing to hide, yeah sure.

        CPS

        January 12, 2017 at 1:00 am

      • If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, rather.

        CPS

        January 12, 2017 at 1:02 am

      • Oh as for “the prosecuting barrister can’t prove that it was doug’s fingers on the keyboard”, unless they are there the moment after you used it or providing no one else used it, im afraid your not going to lift a set you can use. In the case of mobiles some people use key pens,voice command so again what finger prints.
        I dont use mobiles unless im working, i cant stand the things and its the only time im away from the net so the more the better in my world. If i need a phone, i use a landline or someone else’s mobile and even then in the case of mobiles i only ever use them to either phone or text.
        In the case of keyboards and mouse, no matter where i am i always carry wipes as you can pick up all sorts of germs and infections from them so i wipe them both before and after use (hygiene). I also use them in public toilets on seats,handles and taps and often throughout the day. When i work i always use hygiene gloves as its requested under the health and safety regulations for my trade along with special PPE gloves for more dangerous work.

        As for ” Barrister: “Come, come now doug, are you seriously suggesting that it isn’t your name on the account print out, Exhibit A members of the jury, and that you aren’t in fact the owner of the Internet Access Device. What account as i have no contracts for any device, always pay cash and ive never ever paid for internet access since the mid 90s when everyone else jumped on the bandwagon.

        I know others pay for such things and take out mobile contracts because they cant afford £600 for an iphone but im afraid im just not one of them.

        doug

        January 12, 2017 at 1:59 am

      • CPS

        In answer to “Can anyone offer ONE good reason, just ONE circumstance that logging an individual’s internet activity would be of any conceivable benefit”.

        Its not for your benefit as only a fool would believe that like believing free on the internet really is free. The data you give gets sold for cash,favor or shared which in most cases goes on to make cash be it product,service,subscription advertising revenue,free lance promoters funding even crowd funding.Only in the rarest of places does that not happen.

        Data be it personal or non personal, its the cash currency so as we know how people just love money, are slaves to it, are just going to milk surfers like a child on its mothers left tit.

        doug

        January 12, 2017 at 2:34 am

  7. The government is seriously considering imposing a £1,000-a-year levy on every European Union skilled worker recruited by British employers after Brexit, the immigration minister has disclosed.

    Home Office minister Robert Goodwill told peers that the “immigration skills levy” could be introduced for EU migrants and would “be helpful to British workers who feel they are overlooked” in favour of migrants.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/11/britain-considering-1000-a-year-levy-for-skilled-eu-workers-robert-goodwill

    news seeker

    January 11, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    • I can only speak for the construction and engineering sector personally but i would imagine it would equally apply to the service sector (ie cleaning contracts firms,etc) and recruitment agencies BUT this is pointless if its only aimed at skilled workers.

      You see contractor firms are skirting around the law so they can use unskiiled to semi skilled workers to perform the task of a high skilled worker. Naturally that means the firm can pay them far less to achieve the same job and simply use one or two skilled workers to inspect/test and commission a job or pieces of work.
      This is being done not only on construction sites but large native engineering firms also.
      You see the regulations surrounding many of these practices dictates a persons must be COMPETENT which does not imply QUALIFIED even though that may be used as a form of accompanied by other factors like a served apprenticeship for instance. As long as the person commissioning the work is registered (proof of accepted competence), everyone else can be completely not competent who care out first and second fix stages.

      This £1000 a year would still be a drop in the bucket to contractor firms using foreign labour as a standard grade electrician earns around £16 pound an hour where as the cheap labour costs £7.20 an hour. That means one for one it only takes around 113 hours work for the labour to save that contractor this £1000. Thats less than 2 weeks as generally you work 12 hour days but 3 weeks if you want to lower that time bracket. This isnt just it as there accommodation costs as the work is often away from home as the foreign workers will often illegally overcrowd accommodation even in hotels. To add to that we UK workers have to go home at weekends to see family n kids or go carry out other work/jobs on other sites so there transport costs. We have to supply our own tools and consumables while they dont.Even the contract firms pay for their CSCS,ECS,IPAF,PLASMA,ETC while we have to pay for our own including paying for our own PPE equipment. A £1000 pound IS A JOKE AND A INSULT TO SKILLED WORKERS.

      INFACT ITS AN INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE OF ALL UK PUBLIC.

      doug

      January 11, 2017 at 4:54 pm

  8. For many people in low-paid work, Universal Credit is the future, unfortunately.
    They won’t be any better-off in real terms, but they will be trapped in a maze of sanctions and pointless harassment.

    Jeff Smith

    January 11, 2017 at 5:17 pm

  9. […] via Universal Credit, “unmitigated disaster”. — Ipswich Unemployed Action. […]

  10. its Worse than people understand – there was a good thread about this here and on the guardian when the new regulations were published.

    So:

    “Universal Credit: 800,000 self-employed Brits could miss out on benefits”

    Me: Its built to operate that way

    “The number of self-employed Brits is rising – but some may find they get a lot less support than their friends in steady jobs under Universal Credit.

    Hundreds of thousands of self-employed Brits could lose out on financial support under Universal Credit, a think tank has warned.”

    ME: Not could. Will. Why? If you get a over the normal amount on your last pay [say on zero hours and owed overtime or backdated money – is over twice normal amount]… guess what you’re told to get on your bike and ef off for 6 months. It’s built into the regulations.

    “The new benefits system will ask more than 800,000 self-employed claimants to report their earnings on a monthly basis.”

    ME: As for this idea – self employed will also have to justify the validity of their self employment in a dragon’s den interview [note there is no limits to how many times this will happen in the regulations], and if you fail to do so will be told have to sign on as a regular claimant – oh, and by the way HMRC will be looking to claw back any payments they made to you – god help you if you get the backdated payment and they say its not viable – you’ll be doubly stuffed. Remember, this will all be on the say so of Job Roaches. Joy.

    Gazza

    January 11, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    • Oh so true, Gazza.

      I feel so sorry for those people that get sucked into believing going self employed under an umbrella company is going to be better off for them than a crappy ZHC. That’s the sort of crap best connections and transline pull. Unless your either getting a serious amount per hour or job, i would advise all not to touch it with a ten foot barge poll.

      If the public who are not offered secure contracts and good pay and hours, they really need to learn not to accept any contract at all let alone self employment as they only serve to benefit the agencies,the employer.
      Absolutely no law, i REPEAT NO LAW EXISTS that says a person has to accept a contract inorder to gain work nor an employer to offer one.

      This should tell you that contracts are all about them and not you the employee as take a look at any and its a tiny bit of what they will give you followed they want,they want ,they want. Hell an employee does not really get any meaningful employment rights until their first year of work and even then the ones before that still exist even without a contract as a payslip will act as proof, a document the employer by law has to give you.

      Done this way the employee would enjoy benefits they never knew existed, alot ive already outlined a while back in a post like an employer cant sack you as without a contract, they could only say they are not going to supply you with anymore work meaning no 13/16 benefit wait for being sacked/walking out of a job for example.

      doug

      January 12, 2017 at 3:09 am

      • True, you don’t need a contract to work, and any disputes that arise, in the case of, say, ‘freelancers’ are decided by ‘default’ employment law.

        Employment Lawyer

        January 12, 2017 at 2:37 pm

  11. Chronic stress increases the risk of heart attacks and strokes. This is why the DWP like to crank up the stress levels. They hope their victims will keel over and DIE! They want you DEAD!

    Breaking News

    January 12, 2017 at 1:20 am

  12. Benefits sanctions office bosses called their own sick member of staff a ‘whinger’ who didn’t deserve treating nicely

    Barry Caulcutt has taken the DWP a tribunal over discrimination, harassment and victimisation while he worked at the Parc Menai

    He had an asthma attack and was rushed to hospital.

    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dwp-bangor-discrimination-tribunal-caulcutt-12439941

    ken

    January 12, 2017 at 6:45 am

  13. Hi, guys.

    Why don’t you guys want to work and have a career? There’s a lot of griping and moaning and talk about how to stay on welfare but nothing about getting a job or looking for a job. It’s all about avoiding work and leeching off the state. In my country welfare entitlement stops forever after receiving five years worth. I thought Brits were brave and enterprising folk but you guys talk and act like parasites than hard working people down on their luck. Come on guys. Get up off your asses and get going! Make Britain great again!

    Skeeter

    January 12, 2017 at 8:36 am

    • The person going by the Alias of ‘Skeeter’

      Come back for help when u are unemployed and stuffed by the system / or pensionless [and the odds are it will happen to you because you believed the tories were here to help you the little person]. Until then, take yourself off to the Daily Heil where you will feel most welcome. Until you’re penniless that is.

      Gazza

      January 12, 2017 at 9:32 am

      • Hi, Gazza.

        I’m an American. man, and writing this from the city of New York. Your comment doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me although I reckon the Daily Heil is a newspaper or magazine. Things is all you people seem victims of a hand out culture which has infected you with false sense of entitlements. If you guys really want to work, color me bad if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t you be spending your time applying for jobs or studying to improve yourselves rather than spending all day and evening grizzling about how hard done by you are and how hard you’ve got it? You wouldn’t be able to slack in my country the way you’ve got used to in Britain. You really would have to make an effort or really end up in the gutter. Ain’t you got any shame, man. When you grow up you ought to be able to stand on your own two feet or at the very least have a darn good try to. I’ve never read a comment from anybody on this site say “Hey fellas. Good news. I’m back in work” or something like that. A lot of stuff is about exploiting the system and milking welfare for all that it is worth. All you folks do is moan endlessly about things you dislike but don’t do anything to change them, like protesting on the streets for example, and advise each other about ways to get around rules, sit on your fannies, and live off welfare for the rest of your lives.

        Based on what I’ve read and heard about your country as a bit of an Anglophile I always thought the British were better than this but clearly I’ve been misinformed. I’d feel sorry for you if you weren’t so involved feeling sorry for yourselves. Man, you slackers wouldn’t last five minutes in my city.

        Grow a pair and get a job.

        I don’t know why your government doesn’t time limit welfare to five years per lifetime as in the USA.

        Skeeter

        January 12, 2017 at 11:28 am

      • ah Alias of ‘Skeeter’

        as you’re a Trumpet, we can now safely ignore your pronouncements.

        Gazza

        January 12, 2017 at 11:58 am

      • What’s happening in the UK and the rest of the world?

        news seeker

        January 12, 2017 at 12:05 pm

      • Too right, doug, What is ‘skeeter’ on about? This site contains a wealth of information on jobseeking techniques, effective use of universal jobmatch, CV tips, the ‘hidden job market’, interview techniques, how to get the most from jobcentre plus services etc.. Andrews Coates also runs a jobclub and regular CV workshops.

        Hard-working Jobseeker

        January 12, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      • Hey fellas. Good news. I’m back in work 🙂 Many thanks for all your jobseeking tips and advice and a special shout-out to Andrew Coates and his exceptional jobclub and fantastic CV workshops which I found invaluable. All the best to those of you who are still jobseeking and may 2017 see you all back in work 🙂

        Cheers

        A Worker

        A Worker

        January 12, 2017 at 1:16 pm

      • Those pensions which many think will be there when your of that age,

        Nuclear workers will strike as they vote for two 48-hour walkouts in row over pensions

        The union said workers felt “deeply betrayed” as promises made a quarter of a century ago guaranteeing their pensions, when they were transferred from the Ministry of Defence to the private sector, have been broken.

        “The four days of strike action later this month are not being taken lightly. It is not a ‘political’ strike, but one taken reluctantly by our members who have no desire to see thousands of pounds wiped off their retirement incomes.”

        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nuclear-workers-strike-vote-two-9608138

        news seeker

        January 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm

      • Hey fellas, good news … etc.

        ( Half) decent rate of pay and temporary/part-time so concomitant re-setting of tax credits and a requirement to regularly ‘check in’ to local council office with proofs of financial updates; payslips). It’s great; so great!

        shirleynott

        January 14, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    • I dont know how you managed to arrive at your supposed conclusion skeeter as this very website is here to help both unemployed and employed people still reliant on the state benefits who are both under the welfare reform and UC. Now maybe its because as you say, you come from another country that you dont understand whats been going on these last 6 plus years but the so called new system and reform simply is not working to improve lives or even make work pay, a pledge the Tories have failed to deliver besides ensuring not working does not pay through draconian practices.

      This very site aids the public employed or not with current coverage of the situation along with helping people better understand the laws surrounding welfare that the likes of DWP and private contracted providers currently abuse inorder to find a hook nor crook way to push people of a claim as they have failed to actually and genuinely support people into work. Through interpreting law for layman use and where needed using science and math claimants both working or not are given to the tools to question and abate the current practices for the sole purpose of while their claiming benefits. This site is not here to teach the creation of CVs and cover letters, interview techniques nor teach English or math or use of a computer as other websites already do this or sign post you to such. We do touch upon these subjects but more so with regards things like security on the internet as in protecting ones personal and or sensitive data or how best to setup a job website account so one does not get outside interference as just two examples.

      None of the information given here is designed to aid a very small portion (quote by DWP officials) of people to commit fraud and besides like my posts if you track them back, your find actually most of such fraud cases are committed by people already working or living with a partner who is working so the notion you have of people not wanting to work couldn’t be more wrong based on the evidence presented by government,courts and media

      Im sorry but the great welfare reform you are misplacing your trust in has systemic problems as does the changing labour market now the gig economy is growing to replace more stable forms of employment not to mention the rather serious practice of de-skilling by employers along with skirting round the laws to achieve it. As more and more people gain degrees your also going to see a drop in skilled wages and thus add to the already existing problem the lower end of the workforce currently experience which is not enough to live on so still requiring a state support through credits and housing assistance. Currently 31.5 million people are working and 20 million people in the UK whether working or not are claiming at least one sort of state benefit while the fit for work unemployed amount sits at around 750’000 (the figure has decreased according to government but awaiting new statistics). This means the unemployed fit for work crowd only represent a mere 3.75% of total claimants to welfare expenditure. So its obvious the problem lies elsewhere with regards what happens to your taxpayer,NIC payments. For instance (again awaiting new figures), 12.95 million people receive state pension which represents 64.75% of welfare expenditure. Whats interesting here is our older population are also the biggest figure on the NHS and external care resources. This we are living longer has been a massive problem for the government as the financial costs throughout public expenditure related to them is huge and that’s putting it mildly so with a dropping birth rate in comparison will only get worse as time goes on.

      doug

      January 12, 2017 at 12:59 pm

      • “And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.” John Fitzgerald Kennedy

        Guys, I’ve looked back through this blog and many of you, most of you, have been on welfare for years! Years and years and years! You’re what we call “Welfare Kings” and “Welfare Queens” in the United States. Do you get Showtime’s show Shameless in the UK? Well, you remind me of the moribund Gallagher family, particularly Frank Gallagher, played by William H. Macy, who’s always looking for a scam or an angle to avoid doing an honest day’s work while moaning all the while, like a little girl, that the country is to blame, or the world being to blame, or anyone, or anything other than him being to blame for his useless life, whereas in reality it’s all down to him and the bad choices he’s made not the fault of any third party or outside influence.

        You guys are in denial and so far gone you can’t see what you’ve become.

        Have some pride and get up off your knees.

        Skeeter

        January 12, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      • “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”

        — Thomas Jefferson

        Thomas Jefferson

        January 12, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      • Skeeter

        Its was us who your country bought the rights to the tv show you mention. Paul Abbott wrote the screenplay and it was first ever aired in 2004 on British TV. Its ironic your attempting to use it as it unarguably a byproduct of Paul Abbotts life growing up so thanks to what he experienced by such characters existing both you Americans and us Brits got the chance to enjoy a really good play. Well it was a massive hit here, both working and not working people loved the characters and show and the reason you guys bought the rights.
        Its also ironic as such a life came about because of the then PM Margaret Thatcher (conservative) and her dodgy antics following the foolish ideology of two yanks known as Milton Friedman and Alan Walters who are the principle founders of the capitalist mess the globe now finds itself in.

        I must say Im surprised considering all the crap going on in America you have time to visit here. I would have thought considering all the problems your country is having that you have more than enough to be concentrating on than a mere 1.1% of the British population on a pokey little island.

        doug

        January 12, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    • Naff off Cletus.

      SJ NM

      January 13, 2017 at 2:12 am

  14. doug

    not had a chance to look at but might be interesting to you – Ai and its impact [it is American so beware]…

    http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/01/ai-jobs-and-inequality.html
    http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/01/ai-could-be-hugely-impactful-on-jobs.html

    Gazza

    January 12, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    • What will we be doing in the so called shared society. some of us know already don;t we Gazza.

      news seeker

      January 12, 2017 at 12:41 pm

      • yep news seeker

        poor – grubbing to survive on nothing. For that is what the tories want

        Gazza

        January 12, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    • Thanks Gazza,

      I will watch them when i get a chance.

      doug

      January 12, 2017 at 4:41 pm

  15. We’ve imported enough from America.

    Got the message, Skeeter?

    Shooter

    January 12, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    • New York City – The Big Apple – shiny on the outside – rotten at the core!

      Da Bronx

      January 12, 2017 at 4:32 pm

  16. Hoof-it

    January 12, 2017 at 4:35 pm

  17. Welfare Queens

    We did have a so called queen of the unemployed once as well as a family tsar another one of Cameron’s notorious judgment calls’.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9101766/David-Camerons-back-to-work-tsar-Emma-Harrison-quits-amid-fraud-allegations.html

    I can and no doubt many others remember that Fixodent grin portrait hanging over A4e reception desks when trudging in on the Work Programme until it suddenly disappeared about twelve months in replaced with a VW camper instead.

    ken

    January 12, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    • You need to signup to Download

      Please create a free account at baconplay to access unlimited downloads & streaming.

      1. Account Info
      2. Verification [yeah sure, buddy]
      3. Enjoy

      The DVD is released on the 13/02/16, so a torrent should be up soon 🙂

      Kick Ass

      January 12, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    • This total shit. Every time you click ‘view’ or ‘download’ you are prompted to create a FREE account. Like you are going to type in your bank card details for ‘verification’, and then find you have been signed up to umpteen cam/porn sites. And then if you were stupid enough to create a FREE account would there even be anything to watch. Fuck this shit!

      Kick Ass

      January 12, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    • Oh, it might even work 🙂 With japanese subtitles 🙂 Big thanks for this superted if it works 🙂

      Kick Ass

      January 12, 2017 at 10:46 pm

    • Like Daniel Blake benefit claimants should say no to ‘Digital by default’ and instead go ‘PENCIL by default’ and like Daniel Blake fill in their job-logs in PENCIL and HAND-WRITE their CVs in PENCIL. After all, we are all Daniel Blake!

      We Are All Daniel Blake

      January 13, 2017 at 11:45 am

      • I’m Spartacus!

        Spartacus

        January 13, 2017 at 4:38 pm

  18. If a private company fucked up on this scale, bosses would be in front of a select committee faster than paint dry. Why not ministers and civil servants. Do the two have crown immunity .

    hatzaetos1924

    January 12, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    • Yup! CROWN immunity lol 😀 WOOF! WOOF!

      The Dulux Dog

      January 13, 2017 at 12:12 am

      • If I am right I (may) be wrong. Don’t government ministers take ”advice and read (out)” what civil servants put in front of them. If this is allegedly the case. Then its a a case of the need to know or as when I was a civil servant and in the TA in the seventies. We had a saying Plausible Deniability .

        hatzaetos1924

        January 13, 2017 at 7:48 am

  19. Verified and working 😀 with hard-baked Japanese subtitles 😀 Got I, Daniel Blake on the flat screen home cinema 🙂 Thanks superted 🙂

    Kick Ass

    January 12, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    • If the subtitles are hard-baked luv, a good scrub with a Brillo pad will soon shift them 🙂

      Old Hilda

      January 13, 2017 at 11:35 am

      • Please, please on no account follow ‘Old Hilda’s advice; you should not on any account scrub a flat-screen TV with a Brillo pad. This will have NO effect on the subtitles but will only serve to destroy the screen. Saying that I have seen this on occasion: “I was trying to remove the blooming foreign subtitles” as the customer stood with a Brillo pad in one hand perplexedly staring at a destroyed screen.

        Domestic Appliance Engineer

        January 13, 2017 at 11:52 am

    • I try to help you lowlifes to improve your lot by releasing some favourable, sympathetic propaganda and you rip me off. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

      Ken Loach

      January 13, 2017 at 4:37 pm

      • Don’t worry, love 🙂 We can’t wait to watch I, Daniel Blake too but instead of watching some dodgy copy we’ve per-ordered the DVD instead – it’s only £9.99 after all 🙂 We are always happy to help a good cause 🙂

        Bernie & Millicent

        January 13, 2017 at 5:37 pm

      • PS Don’t think Bernie would cope very well with “hard-baked Japanese subtitles” whatever they are 🙂 His hearing is bad enough at the best of times 🙂

        Bernie & Millicent

        January 13, 2017 at 5:40 pm

      • Hear what you are saying, Ken. It does feel kind of ‘bad’ to be watching a pirate copy of I, Daniel Blake, it’s not like watching a Hollywood blockbuster or even another one of your films. But still, not everyone can get to the cinema, and there is nothing to stop anyone who has watched a ‘pirate’ copy from buying the DVD if they want to contribute to the cause.

        It also goes without saying that benefit claimants especially those on the pittance that is JSA and even more so if they have been sanctioned and are reliant on foodbanks like the characters in I, Daniel Blake won’t be able, like Katie in the film to afford to buy her kids spaghetti on toast for dinner, never mind pay for a cinema ticket or DVD.

        Paul Laverty

        January 13, 2017 at 5:59 pm

  20. superted

    January 12, 2017 at 11:45 pm

  21. First use of new Scots welfare powers over Universal Credit

    The Scottish government plans use its new social security powers for the first time to increase the frequency of Universal Credit payments.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38601944

    ken

    January 13, 2017 at 7:52 am

  22. Plight of our ‘humiliated’ poor is worse than in World War II, says food bank boss after ‘saddest Christmas’

    A food bank boss has spoken out poignantly about his heartbreaking Christmas trying to help hundreds of tearful, “broken” people in need.

    Denis Curran MBE revealed that his charity gave out 400 parcels of bare necessities over the festive season – 100 more than the year before.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/plight-humiliated-poor-worse-world-9605538

    news seeker

    January 13, 2017 at 12:45 pm

  23. WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages.

    A security backdoor that can be used to allow Facebook and others to intercept and read encrypted messages has been found within its WhatsApp messaging service.

    Facebook claims that no one can intercept WhatsApp messages, not even the company and its staff, ensuring privacy for its billion-plus users. But new research shows that the company could in fact read messages due to the way WhatsApp has implemented its end-to-end encryption protocol.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/13/whatsapp-backdoor-allows-snooping-on-encrypted-messages

    news seeker

    January 13, 2017 at 12:57 pm

  24. Andrew Coates

    January 13, 2017 at 5:16 pm

  25. Reblogged this on campertessblog.

    Campertess

    January 14, 2017 at 1:56 pm


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