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Labour Should Now Adopt the Welfare Charter.

Labour pledge to scrap ‘discredited’ fit for work tests and ‘punitive’ benefit sanctions

Welfare Weekly.

Labour Conference: Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, Debbie Abrahams MP, also said being on social security shouldn’t mean having to live in poverty.

“I want to change the culture of our social security system and how the public see it. I believe that, like the NHS, it is based on principles of inclusion, support and security for all, assuring us of our dignity and the basics of life were we to fall on hard times or become incapacitated, giving us a hand up, not a hand out.

“Work should always pay more than being on social security, but being in work shouldn’t mean living in poverty and neither should being on social security.

“The Labour Party has already pledged to get rid of the discriminatory and unfair Bedroom Tax. But I want to go further.

“I want to scrap the discredited Work Capability Assessment and replace it with a system based on personalised, holistic support, one that provides each individual with a tailored plan, building on their strengths and addressing barriers, whether skills, health, care, transport, or housing-related.

“This Government’s punitive sanctions system must go too, so Job Centre Plus and employment support providers’ performance will not just be assessed on how many people they get off their books.

“I want to see disabled people better supported into and at work. We will halve the Disability Employment Gap – and when we say it we mean it. And we will tackle other labour market inequalities too.

“I believe in a fair and just Britain, where everyone can get on and no-one is left behind.

Last year Abrahams said this,

Benefits Sanctions – Need for a full independent review

The Work and Pensions Committee, of which I am a member, has today published our report into benefit sanctions.  I have been asking the Government to hold an independent review into sanctions policy for nearly two years and after they refused, I persuaded colleagues on the Select Committee to instigate our own Inquiry.

Our report calls for a full independent review to be established in the new Parliament, to investigate whether benefit sanctions are being applied appropriately, fairly and proportionately, across the Jobcentre Plus network.  Labour’s Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, Rachel Reeves, has today stated that Labour accept in full all the Committee’s recommendations.

In the report we have reiterated our recommendation for a full review, originally made in January 2014 but rejected by the Government, in the light of new evidence which raises concerns about the approach being adopted in a number of individual Jobcentres, and more broadly, including concerns about whether targets for sanctions exist.

The report calls for the independent review also to examine the legislative framework for benefit sanctions policy, to ensure that the basis for sanctioning is well-defined, and that safeguards to protect the vulnerable are clearly set out.

Debate in the House of Commons on the welfare and Reform and Work Bill (Third Reading. October 28th).

Debbie Abrahams, “New clause 4 requires that the Government undertake a full independent review of their sanctions regime by 31 March 2016. It is with considerable regret that, after the Work and Pensions Committee’s report earlier this year, which also recommended an independent review of benefit conditionality and sanctions, the Government have failed to recognise the real concerns about their new sanctions regime, either in response to what was said in the Bill Committee or to that report.

I have been campaigning for an independent review of sanctions for nearly two years, and in that time constituents have come to me with their stories about how they have been sanctioned. One constituent was told while he was undergoing the work capability assessment that he was having a heart attack and should go to hospital, yet two weeks later he received a letter to say that he had been sanctioned. People up and down the country have also got in touch with their stories of how they have been sanctioned, for example, for being a few minutes late for an appointment with an adviser or work coach. Increasingly, people are being sanctioned unreasonably, for example, because they had attended their mother’s funeral, been hospitalised or gone to a job interview—this is absurd.

There was another category of reasons for being sanctioned. I still have the email from a constituent who had received a letter saying he had been sanctioned for non-attendance at a meeting with his adviser at the jobcentre, even though he had evidence that he had been there. The penny dropped when another constituent, who had worked in jobcentres across Greater Manchester for 20 years, came to me to tell me that as part of the new sanctions regime introduced at the end of 2012, the DWP had targets for sanctions. As he described it, claimants were being deliberately set up to fail, whether they had done anything wrong or not.

The Work and Pensions Committee also became concerned while conducting an inquiry in 2013 on “The role of Jobcentre Plus in the reformed welfare system”. At that stage, it recommended the following:

“DWP should launch a second, broader, independent review of conditionality and sanctions, to include investigation of whether the process is being applied appropriately, fairly, proportionately and in accordance with the rules, across the Jobcentre network.””

September the 2nd 2016. Debbie Abrahams.

GOVERNMENT deceit over its campaign to drive people into low-paid work by cutting benefits was exposed yesterday after the Tories crowed over the number of its victims.

Figures from the government’s Office of National Statistics (ONS) showed that the number of “workless” households has fallen by 189,000 from last year, still leaving 3.1 million households where no-one is employed.

Government ministers hailed the findings which they attributed to their benefit-slashing policies.

Employment Minister Damian Hinds said: “Welfare reforms like the benefit cap and universal credit are giving people clear incentives to move off benefits and into work so they can provide a brighter future for themselves and their families.”

But shadow work and pensions secretary Debbie Abrahams MP said the figures actually expose the government’s deceit.

“By trying to shift the focus away from income to workless households, the Tories are claiming success on an issue that the ONS report shows has been declining since Labour took office in 1997,” she said.

Ms Abrahams added: “There are currently nearly seven million working families living in poverty, including 2.5 million children.

“If the government is serious about social reform, they should stop patting themselves on the back and start tackling the problems of low pay, insecurity and a lack of progression at the bottom end of the labour market.”

The Resolution Foundation, which works to improve living standards, said in a report in October that one in five British employees — or 5.5 million individuals — are low paid, and “extreme low pay” affected 2 per cent of employees.

 We say: Labour should now adopt the ‘Welfare Charter’.

These are the charter’s key points:

  1. A political commitment to full employment achieved with decent jobs. People are entitled to decent, stable and secure jobs that provide regular, guaranteed hours that allows them to also meet any caring responsibilities; not zero-hours contracts in precarious jobs.
  2. A wage you can live on for all and a social security system that works to end poverty. We need a National Living Wage that people can live on, not just survive on, that applies to all.
  3. No work conscription – keep volunteering voluntary. Forcing people to work for free on pain of losing benefits is simply providing free labour to organisations that should be paying workers proper wages.
  4. Representation for unemployed workers. Everyone should have access to an advocate to help them navigate the social security system and appeal adverse decisions.
  5. Appoint an ombudsman for claimants. A claimants ombudsman should be appointed to arbitrate on unresolved complaints, to ensure claimants are treated with respect and dignity.
  6. Equality in the labour market and workplace; equality in access to benefits. We need a labour market where structural inequalities are overturned and a benefit system that is accessible to people.
  7. An end to the sanctions regime and current work capability assessment – full maintenance for the unemployed and underemployed. We need a non-means tested, non-discriminatory benefit payable to all, with housing costs met. This must be allied with the wide provision of low-cost housing.
  8. State provision of high quality information, advice and guidance on employment, training and careers. There must be a supportive and independent careers service, not linked to conditionality or benefits, offering face-to-face advice.

More here.

 We add: End the unjust  Claimant ‘contribution’ to the Council Tax and Restore Full benefits.

Written by Andrew Coates

September 27, 2016 at 3:23 pm

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  1. Remove the fees for employment tribunals, if there were none many people would be in full time employment.

    One had A full time job,(a good wage,) no need for any benefits, laid off, discrimination, onto UC, (that long wait) appealed, money getting low, letter from tribunal service, in it the DWP states, one is not receiving any of the benefits listed, – pay £250 to the Tribunal service. employer gets away with discrimination, one continues to be unemployed. how many are there out there.

    Sort it out Labour.

    news seeker

    September 27, 2016 at 4:28 pm

  2. Brazil, the same problem.

    A new illegitimate right-wing government stepping up austerity.


    news seeker

    September 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm

  3. Poverty changes your brain to make you less intelligent, another study suggests.

    That depends on what one does.

    Researchers find link between low incomes and poorer brain function and say the stress of life with little money could be part of the reason; there is ‘little evidence’ to suggest falling intelligence pushes people into poverty, they add


    news seeker

    September 27, 2016 at 6:47 pm

  4. Rachel fucking Reeves said: “to ensure that the basis for sanctioning is well-defined, and that safeguards to protect the vulnerable are clearly set out.”

    “DWP should launch a second, broader, independent review of conditionality and sanctions, to include investigation of whether the process is being applied appropriately, fairly, proportionately and in accordance with the rules, across the Jobcentre network.”””

    The usual New Labour bollocks. The unemployed would be well advised to steer clear of these New Labour bastards. We all know where New fucking Labour stand on sanction: leopards don’t change their spots. Thankfully, New fucking Labour won’t be winning a General Election any time soon.

    Funny how JV cottoned on to these New Labour bastards, you know the bastards who brought in sanctions, ushered in workfare through the New Deal, allowed human being to starve to death because they were denied hardship allowance by dint of not being in a ‘vulnerable group’ yet like a drowning person person clinging to a piece of driftwood this site steadfastly still urges us to support these New Labour bastards. Life under a New fucking Labour administration and Rachel fucking Reeves at the helm of the DWP would be pure and utter Hell for the unemployed – be careful what you wish for!

    Rachel fucking Reeves can fuck right off – we know your game! New fucking Labour can fuck right off!

    Fuck New Labour

    September 27, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    • That’s it! I’m done with this site. This site is as bad as the Void. The comments are littered with swearing. And like the foul-mouthed Void the site owner also swears. Won’t be reading any more. Bye!


      September 28, 2016 at 12:07 am

      • BYE

        Bev H

        September 28, 2016 at 8:04 am

      • Shit, piss and corruption! For fuck’s sake. I feel like I’ve just been kicked in the shitting ballbag!

        Bucket Mouth

        September 28, 2016 at 9:46 am

    • Too fucking right! If they ever take power the unemployed will be rounded up and put to work in a giant ‘public works’ programme. And there will be no hardship allowance for those who chose not to ‘participate’ in the Public Works Programme, unless, of course, in New Labour’s finest tradition you are in a so-called ‘vulnerable’ group. Unemployed persons such as David Clapson will be allowed to starve and freeze to death.

      And this is why we see self-interested groups such as the ‘disabled’ lobby urging us to support Labour because their thinking is that they might just wring some ‘concessions’ out of New Labour such as an end to the Work Capability Assessment, ESA claimants no longer under the sanctions regimes, single parents/those with children no longer under the sanctions regime. But these self-interested groups don’t give as damn about the unemployed as they live in the fond hope that they will be sitting pretty under a New Labour administration But woe betide anyone unfortunate enough to be unemployed under a New Labour administration. Imagine Rachel Reeves in charge of the DWP! Reeves would make Duncan Smith look like a walk in the park. A unemployed person would have to be clinically insane to vote for these fuckers. Labour are pure, unadulterated evil! Bad, bad bastards as their record aptly demonstrates.

      Get Real!

      September 28, 2016 at 10:17 am

      • Your giant works programme otherwise known as the work and health programme, no matter what political party this giant scheme will go ahead. participatory society, which is happening all over the world.

        news seeker

        September 28, 2016 at 10:42 am

      • There was someone or other on Radio 4 the other day saying that back in the day we had the Tories who represented the interests of the wealthy, landowners and we had Labour who represented the interests of the working-class. And in a sense that was more honorable. At least we knew where we stood. But nowadays neither party represent the interests of either – nowadays politics is a cartel. As they keep telling us: “They are all in it together”. It is an unstoppable agenda. We are wasting our breaths with politics.

        J Gosling

        September 28, 2016 at 11:23 am

      • Understanding the Work and Health Programme.

        The waiting is very nearly over. After nearly a year of discussion, details and delays, the tender documents for the Work and Health Programme are due out.

        With contributions from leading experts in programme design and delivery; national and local government; and service providers across the public, private and voluntary sectors.

        Learning and Work Institute’s assessment of the Work and Health Programme procurement framework – what government wants.


        news seeker

        September 28, 2016 at 11:51 am

      • “ERSA members* £120 plus VAT

        Standard £160 plus VAT

        Fee includes refreshments and lunch. Bookings are managed by eventbrite and payment can be made via credit/debit card, invoice or cheque.”

        Bit pricey, think we will give this a miss 😀

        ERSA = ARSE 😀

        The Skinties

        September 28, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    • It was Labour that brought in the WCA in the first place, so can’t see that ending under Reeves… 😉

      Fact Checker

      September 28, 2016 at 10:24 am

      • … as well as Labour bringing in sanctions and workfare. And it’s a FACT that there is more workfare under Labour than the Tories!

        Fact Checker

        September 28, 2016 at 10:27 am

      • Labour brought in the WCA 2008 with a contract for 2 years to be renewed in 2010. The Tories got in in 2010 & renewed the WCA contact.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 28, 2016 at 5:15 pm

      • The was the Tories choice !!!!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 28, 2016 at 5:16 pm

      • Yes because the Tories then knew how to make it worse for their plan.

        news seeker

        September 28, 2016 at 5:23 pm

  5. Now that HMRC are at war with Concentrix with Universal Credit on Working Tax Credit with hard working single parents with no money & leaving their jobs because that make them more in debt & housing rent & housing benefit being lost like evictions & now their kids are put into care. The suicides & deaths caused by the DWP & HMRC by 2020 when poll a tricks want to act means tens of thousands of suicides & deaths of ex hard working families. So something needs to be done now or the DWP deaths will rise past 100,000 by 2020. 100,000 DWP Assisted suicides & 30,000 kids in care because of the war between HMRC & Concentrix.


    Not in years or months. The cost of human lives at the cost of the tax payer will run into £ Billions. Politics ranting means more DWP Assisted Suicide deaths.


    Being stupid causes deaths, who ever you are in cover ups & egos. Universal Credit on hard working families means homelessness, Kids put into care where there is no money to fund – So is now called state sponsored child killing through the DWP – HMRC – Concentrix & The Tory Party.

    The Tories are scared to sack Concentrix today because of breech of contract which the DWP will have to pay ten of Millions of £ in defaulting the contract. Yet the war between the HMRC & Concentrix is who defaulted on the contract while hard working families are dying with no money.

    State Sponsored Child Killing on Universal Tax Credits.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 27, 2016 at 7:48 pm

  6. State Sponsored Suicide War.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 27, 2016 at 7:53 pm

  7. The Welfare budget is now £120 Billion because most of that is the DWP fees in lawyers & defaults payments on DWP contactors. So we need to get the Welfare budget down by making it £200 billion.

    State Sponsored Suicide.

    Now where`s the war !!!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 27, 2016 at 7:56 pm

  8. 2 more DWP Assisted suicides while you are reading my piece.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 27, 2016 at 7:57 pm

  9. Deputy leader Tom Watson “Capitalism is not the enemy, money is not the problem, business is not bad. The real world is more complicated than that.” is he real.

    news seeker

    September 27, 2016 at 11:23 pm

  10. Why are oranges 10 shillings each yet gin only sixpence a gallon? And why aren’t we feeding the hungry mouths of the poor?

    Ross Poldark

    September 28, 2016 at 12:14 am

    • Because if we feed them they will multiply and we will have more mouths to feed!

      Demelza Poldark

      September 28, 2016 at 12:48 am

      • Woof!


        September 28, 2016 at 7:33 am

    • Ah! But in this age of enterprise and discovery the cost of a young fresh whore is much reduced as fishwives are forced to market their entrances and exits cut price in order not to starve. Behold! The free market at work! A wonder greater than the gospels!

      George Warleggan

      September 28, 2016 at 7:42 am

  11. Labour look very, very unlikely to be elected under Corbyn, sadly, and so the party’s promises on all and sundry are largely meaningless because they will never get implemented.


    September 28, 2016 at 7:46 am

    • Here we go, tory Pauly back again spouting a speculation, an assumption, a guess.

      They said Farage would never get us out of Europe, never get the UK to hold a vote, they were wrong.

      They said the UK would vote to remain, they were wrong.

      They said the financial walls would fall in, they haven’t and WHY,

      Because they speculated, they assumed, they guessed just like your doing now which i warned you about pauly last time when i said about Corbyn having the lion share of backing over all other members in the party even when combined.

      If your professing to be a Labour supporter then stop with your oh wo crap and either get in line as the democratic vote has been cast a second time or defect to the Tories as lets face it, the way your talking, its easier to imagine you as such rather than a Labour supporter.

      Mostly all the current crop of Labour MP’s are still the tired cheating new labour crowd that came and failed because their just imitating conservative values rather poorly as their all free market capitalists through and through just like Blair was.

      I think Margret Thatcher made an apt speech once that fits you to a tee so on behalf of Corbyn supporters may i say, ” You turn if you want to, this ladies not for turning”.


      September 28, 2016 at 9:17 am

      • Right about now as things currently stand when we consider political opinion of the public, their is not a single Labour MP that will sway them into voting for Labour and yes, even with the promises all Labour currently make meaning your argument is MUTE.

        Further more you fail to observe political electorate trends like for instance the trend to tire of a government whose been in successive office and failed to deliver real change. The public tired of years John Major so instantly voted Labour. They then tired of Blair/Brown so instantly voted conservative. The question which is the only way to sway the public irrespective of being supportive to right or left moderates is, when will they tire of this conservative government and not what any Labour party leader promises and does especially at a time the public are at a all time low of trusting politicians full stop no matter where they hail from.

        Polices don’t change the tide, the public’s lack of willingness to put up with yet more liars and broken promises does.


        September 28, 2016 at 9:44 am

      • … and they also said that Donald Trump would never be elected as President of the United States of America 😦

        Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton

        September 28, 2016 at 10:00 am

      • Yeah, if Trump can be become President of the USA it is anyone’s call if Corbyn can become Prime Minister of the UK! Never say never!


        September 28, 2016 at 10:31 am

      • Howdy! 😀

        President Trump

        September 28, 2016 at 10:33 am

      • Hi Doug

        Sorry, sport, but the numbers say no. Labour needs 104 seats in England and Wales and 40% of the vote to win. In the marginals, four out every five of the extra votes must come from those who were Tory last time. Even if the young are energised and turnout soars to Scottish referendum heights, it gets nowhere close. Even if every single Liberal Democrat and Green vote went Labour, that only gives 29 seats. Even if Ukip were crushed, its vote divides equally Labour and Tory. As Labour wins radical votes, it risks losing moderate votes to the Tories: 2% went that way last time.

        What I say is based on facts and what you say on personal folklore it seems to me.

        We’ll be able to see what happens over the next few years but all the available evidence now predicts another crushing defeat for Labour under Corbyn in 2020. Read the research yourself and groan.


        September 28, 2016 at 3:04 pm

      • Donald Trump is not going to be the next President of the United States. End of.


        September 28, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      • Doug.

        When Labour defeated the Tories when John Major was Prime Minister Tony Blair was Labour leader not Jeremy Corbyn. And when you compare the EU referendum (binary choice) with a general election (multiple choice) you are comparing fish with foul; referenda and general elections are nothing like each other. All extant data says that Corbyn lacks the mass appeal of Blair in his early says and although adored by a significant although too small number of Labour adherents (three or four hundred thousand out of a country of sixty four million, i.e., no more than 0.625% of the total population) to attract enough non-affiliated soft Tory votes to ever lead Labour to victory, particularly after the boundary changes go through and MP numbers reduced.

        Sadly you are very, very wrong in your beliefs and intuitions. After the next general election all the data suggests a parliament with even fewer Labour MPs will be the result. This is very unfortunate but seems inevitable unless something really awful happens to the Conservative party and it self-destructs, e.g., splits into warring factions over Brexit or similar.


        September 29, 2016 at 8:50 am

      • “Something really awful happens to the Conservative party and it self-destructs” lets hope for that one.

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 10:01 am

      • “What I wrote is my best guess as per what I think is likely to happen based on past experience. Like any fortune teller I can’t give evidence to support my predictions or guesstimations as our American friends call such things”.

        I believe your words were, were they not ?

        What are the lessons we are all learning these days, polls and percentages aren’t making good predictions. Remember the last elections where everyone was saying it will be a tough close election but ended with Conservatives wiping the floor with Labour.

        Which goes precisely back to where i said its all about when the public tire of the lies and broken promises that all politicians have been doing for decade upon decade and directly been reasonable for our 1.4 trillion debt.

        This country has always been predominantly conservative for centuries and labour is believe it or not, not that well established in the political timeline so that’s the first thing stacked against Labour. Secondly Blair/Brown office was the first and longest stay of the parties career (2 terms). Thirdly prior to Blair the conservatives had office (Thatcher/Major) for 18 years.

        SO on FACT NOT FICTION alone the probability has always been stacked against Labour regaining office.

        Labour have NEVER had a majority of electorates SO its not DO YOU VOTE LABOUR OR CONSERVATIVE that is the KEY question that the public should be asked.

        The question should be who is dissuaded or disenfranchised firstly from voting for the conservatives followed the same question as regards Labour in both local and general elections. From that you can derive who will win but this cant be absolutely known till the immediate run up to the next election.

        To put it another way durex offers 99% protection but what does that mean when your the 1% ?

        Well it also means and is just as true a statement that durex offers 99% no protection. This is what we call plus-minus in math.

        So with currently around 4 years to go if we are to use hard philosophical math instead of cheaply and poorly applied probabilities and percentages we cant say either way yet beyond an inkling.

        Or put another way, if i just say 97% of customers said they were happy with the service, it does little good to be considered as a fact if we don’t know how many were surveyed to begin with (head counted) as remember no one surveys their entire customer base and nor do an entire customer base contribute to a survey.


        September 29, 2016 at 10:12 am

      • Re print of a few paragraphs

        “Which goes precisely back to where i said its all about when the public tire of the lies and broken promises that all politicians have been doing for decade upon decade and directly been RESPONSIBLE for our 1.4 trillion debt.

        (Its worth pointing out here that as we have been a majority conservative lead country that the majority of all our problems extends from conservative lead ideology/ideologies. I include new labour (1997 to 2010) in this as they are just conservative imitators who believe in free market capitalism which has torn the world apart financially on numerous occasions).

        “The question should be who is dissuaded or disenfranchised firstly from voting for the conservatives followed BY the same question as regards Labour in both local and general elections. From that you can derive who will win but this cant be absolutely known till the immediate run up to the next election”.


        September 29, 2016 at 10:32 am

      • Corbyn won’t even have a seat to stand in once the boundary changes go through before General Election 2020!

        Gerry Mander

        September 29, 2016 at 12:58 pm

      • Doug

        Tony Blair lead Labour to serve THREE terms in office not two. Facts are important, Doug, although I very much enjoy reading your folk wisdom, cod science and entirely dubious mathematics which I imagine you culled while waiting for dental and medical appointments from old copies of the Reader’s Digest in the waiting room. Like Saul on the road to Damascus the scales will fall from your eyes in May 2020 when you will see that I am correct, or at least more correct than you. Try not to chew the carpets when it happens. Toodles!


        October 2, 2016 at 3:38 pm

      • Pauly, i would thank you for mentioning the third term but alas i already saw the mistake but as you cant edit your posts here once posted did include while discussing a conservative themed party (new labour), their terms in time.

        “(Its worth pointing out here that as we have been a majority conservative lead country that the majority of all our problems extends from conservative lead ideology/ideologies. I include new labour (1997 to 2010) in this as they are just conservative imitators who believe in free market capitalism which has torn the world apart financially on numerous occasions)”.

        Lastly Pauly don’t be another troll and practice the common trait of character assassination as that just makes you look weak towards the audience as ive outlined enough times on this site how people can see a troll by their behavior.

        You state you take issue with the math and science on certain posts so do just that rather than trying to get away with saying witty but ultimately negative remarks light years down the line as so to speak hoping the audience dont track my posts to check.

        The very fact you quoted ” reading your folk wisdom, cod science and entirely dubious mathematics” in your post suggests it wasn’t for the want of trying that you to couldn’t dispute them.

        This is however where you have gone wrong. I don’t want you to take my word for it, i want you and the audience to go look it up for yourselves, to research it so its nolonger a post you once read but an ingrained thought process you arrived at in your own time and pace.

        Take the concentrix thing where the politician i mentioned spoke of it is necessary and working as its saved us x amount. Now include my post about how politicians and certain people present only the figure that aids their patter. As you could see when its presented front back and sides its, well absolutely nothing, certainly not enough to assert his point about warranting the existence of a private contractor based on supposed fraud but this time by working people which was a third point i made in another post about most benefit frauds are committed by working people and no totally unemployed people. This is why those cases need re examining as i strongly suspect as a lot of tax credits are for very small amounts, a large portion simply didn’t bother to seek redress as we certainly didn’t see them in court did we. I myself even under the old system don’t bother with tax credits as why should i have to register to get my taxes back when government could have just simply adjusted my tax code or as i mentioned in yet another post set the allowance before tax at £16’000 per annum (changes with time, current affairs and economics). Finishing off in that re examining i reckon your find a lot of government/private contractor errors which is far larger a share of problems than fraud when we talk government and their ineffectual systems of practice.


        October 6, 2016 at 10:10 am

  12. Only three out of 700 firms prosecuted for paying below minimum wage.

    More than 13,000 workers underpaid by over £3.5m since 2014, but HMRC prosecution rate remain paltry despite employers breaking law.

    Since February 2014, the government has “named and shamed” 700 employers who have underpaid more than 13,000 workers by over £3.5m. But less than a quarter of a percent of them have been prosecuted under laws that in theory provide for prison sentences in the most extreme cases of wilful non-compliance.

    The business minister, Margot James, who has responsibility for the enforcement of low pay laws has conceded that the prosecution rate is “a small number” and is “an issue that causes me concern”.

    Margot James, not good enough.


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 10:01 am

  13. We will use the research to inform the development of the IAP for 18 to 21 year olds, to be introduced in April 2017, and to inform decisions on future policy for other age groups.’


     Social norming – people are strongly influenced to conform to what they believe
    the normal or acceptable behaviour to be. Setting out what most successful
    jobseekers do creates a standard for claimants to achieve or work towards.
     Nudging – positive reinforcement and indirect suggestions which aim to achieve
    voluntary compliance with suggested actions for example, by asking claimants to
    identify what they can do, then getting them to agree to commit to completing this
     Applying the quality ruler – this technique encourages people to reflect upon
    and score – on a scale of one to ten – the quality of what they have achieved and
    to consider how they could improve on this self-assessed quality score.

    They’re not even hiding it now, a Jobseeker is now classed as a socially abnormal individual ripe for the jobcentre confidence tricksters non-mandatory bs and should be scaled from one to ten in their eligibility into the human race.


    September 28, 2016 at 10:50 am

    • “Social norming – people are strongly influenced to conform to what they believe
      the normal or acceptable behaviour to be.”

      What is their actual evidence for the above statement? There are many people who could not give a monkeys about ‘normal’ (whatever that is :silly: ) or ‘acceptable’ behaviour. They just act in their own interests. I will start with MPs who behave with impunity.


      September 28, 2016 at 10:57 am

    • ‘Normal’, ‘acceptable behaviour’, as in fraud and embezzlement? What a load of old cobblers. The unemployed should take the lead from their betters… 😉

      “Glasgow East MP Natalie McGarry has been charged with fraud offences.

      She had been under investigation by police after a pro-independence group reported a potential financial discrepancy in its accounts.

      Ms McGarry, 35, had been one of the 56 SNP MPs elected in last year’s general election.

      She withdrew from the party whip when the allegations were made last November, and has been sitting as an independent MP.

      The investigation into Ms McGarry centred on her involvement with Women for Independence (WFI), which was set up to campaign ahead of the referendum in September 2014.

      WFI called in police after spotting apparent discrepancies between donations made to the organisation and its expenditure.
      ‘Embezzlement of funds’

      The allegations are believed to involve a five-figure sum of money.

      It is understood the charges against Ms McGarry also relate to her involvement with the SNP Glasgow Regional Association.

      Ms McGarry’s lawyer, Aamer Anwar, told BBC Scotland that the MP had voluntarily attended Govan police station in Glasgow on Tuesday morning.

      Mr Anwar added: “Following an interview she was charged with several alleged offences, including embezzlement of funds, breach of trust and an offence under the Scottish Independence Referendum Act 2013.

      “She was released and there will now be a report to the procurator fiscal.”

      Ms McGarry has previously insisted there has been “no wrongdoing on her part”.

      Both Women for Independence and the SNP said they would not be commenting on the case.”



      September 28, 2016 at 11:02 am

      • Royal Household worker Ronald Harper jailed for £100k bribes.

        The man in charge of maintaining Buckingham Palace has been jailed for five years after he accepted more than £100,000 in bribes.

        Judge Nicholas Loraine-Smith told Harper he was a “hard-working, apparently loyal team player, admired and trusted by … colleagues”, but he was also “dishonest and greedy”.


        news seeker

        September 28, 2016 at 9:01 pm

      • These bastards are all busy lining their pockets whilst telling the unemployed to work in Pound-fucking-land for £jack-shit to ‘boost their self-esteem and increase their self-confidence’. Just how fucking patronsing are these bastards?!


        September 29, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    • ‘normal’ In sales we call this the ‘sheep factor’: “But everyone else is working in Poundland for jack-shit! What’s wrong with YOU?”

      Car Sales Knobhead

      September 28, 2016 at 11:07 am

    • ‘intensive activity’ lol This takes us back to the days of New Labour and their bullshit, and what this site is named after.

      Dencora House

      September 28, 2016 at 11:32 am

    • Social norms, the customary rules that govern behavior in groups and societies, have been extensively studied in the social sciences. Anthropologists have described how social norms function in different cultures (Geertz 1973), sociologists have focused on their social functions and how they motivate people to act (Durkheim 1950; Parsons 1937, Parsons and Shils 1951; Coleman 1990; Hechter and Opp 2001), and economists have explored how adherence to norms influences market behavior (Akerlof 1976; Young 1998). More recently, also legal scholars have touted social norms as efficient alternatives to legal rules, as they may internalize negative externalities and provide signaling mechanisms at little or no cost (Ellickson 1991; Posner 2000).

      With a few exceptions, the social science literature conceives of norms as exogenous variables. Since norms are mainly seen as constraining behavior, some of the important differences between moral, social and legal norms, as well as differences between norms and conventions, have been blurred. Much attention instead has been paid to the conditions under which norms will be obeyed. Because of that, the issue of sanctions has been paramount in the social science literature. Moreover, since social norms are seen as central to the production of social order or social coordination, research on norms has been focused on the functions they perform, and whether they do so efficiently. Yet even if a norm may fulfill important social functions such as welfare maximization or the elimination of externalities, it cannot be explained solely or mainly on the basis of the functions it performs. The simplistic functionalist perspective has been rejected on several accounts since, even if a given norm can be conceived as a means to achieve some social goal, this is usually not the reason why it emerged in the first place (Elster 1989). Moreover, though a particular norm may persist (as opposed to emerge) because of some positive social function it fulfills, there are many others that are inefficient and even widely unpopular.

      Philosophers have taken a different approach to norms. In the literature on norms and conventions, both social constructs are seen as the endogenous product of individuals’ interactions (Lewis 1969; Ullmann-Margalit 1977; Vandershraaf 1995; Bicchieri 2006). Norms are represented as equilibria of games of strategy, and as such they are supported by a cluster of self-fulfilling expectations. Beliefs, expectations, group knowledge and common knowledge have thus become central concepts in the development of a philosophical view of social norms. Paying attention to the role played by expectations in supporting social norms has helped differentiate between social norms, conventions, and descriptive norms, an important distinction often overlooked in the social science accounts.



      September 29, 2016 at 12:07 pm

      • Interesting Doug, programmed humans!

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 12:29 pm

      • When the DWP talk about ‘normal’ they are talking about Chairman Mao and his infamous ‘mould’. They keep pressing and pressing the hapless jobseeker into the ‘mould’ until they ‘conform’ to the DWP prototype of a ‘good’ citizen – a useful and productive slave drone.

        Chairman Mao

        September 29, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      • As newtons law of motion states,

        First law: In an inertial reference frame, an object either remains at rest or continues to move at a constant velocity, unless acted upon by a net force

        Second law: In an inertial reference frame, the sum of the forces F on an object is equal to the mass m of that object multiplied by the acceleration a of the object:

        Third law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.

        So no laws of science agree a social norm forms anything other than a dictatorial reference to how someone/s believe how a system should work and people should see it.

        ” Nudging – positive reinforcement and indirect suggestions which aim to achieve voluntary compliance with suggested actions”.

        This again proves the fallibility of a social norm as if accepted then why the need to persuade indirectly, to nudge if you are not attempting to create said norm ?


        “asking claimants to identify what they can do, then getting them to agree to commit to completing this

        ” Applying the quality ruler – this technique encourages people to reflect upon and score – on a scale of one to ten – the quality of what they have achieved and to consider how they could improve on this self-assessed quality score”.

        Again attempting to create the said norm by way of entrapment in so far as allowing the test subject to believe their free will, will ultimately hand them the outcome they seek and not that of the tester.

        If statistics and percentages already aren’t badly enough abused and misrepresented, the use of most tests are far worse as i assure claimants nay test or questionnaire DWP give you will be a deliberately flawed psychometric Test. Its a rigged test with only two or more but ultimately one outcome that’s favorable to the person giving it to you.

        Always asked to see all the attainable results groups prior to volunteering to take part as questionnaires and tests are not a regulatory part of whether or not an individual is deserving of a benefit/s. This is based on other evidence that’s unequivocally factual so one cannot be said to be failing to participate if one decides not to do the test.

        Your often find as an example a question ends with being an A and B reply (C and D are irreverent tricks/smoke screens)you can safely ignore the 0 to 10 and 0 to -10 crap they put on them). Once you participate you become unwittingly a part of the lie, the trick as whether you answer A or B or even don’t answer, you will not be judged to be self sufficient and not requiring support.

        Like is said, this is all just the mechanism of ATTEMPTING TO CREATE A SOCIAL NORM and you only have to turn that post of rumpsides upside down to see it and how it works. So basically it is YOU THE CLAIMANTS THAT WILL BE MAKING THAT SOCIAL NORM BECOME THE NORM.

        Do you get it, do you understand ?


        September 29, 2016 at 12:51 pm

      • “First law: In an inertial reference frame, an object either remains at rest or continues to move at a constant velocity, unless acted upon by a net force.” So,when you take your foot of the gas why does your car* slow to a halt since there are no ‘net forces’ acting on it? Why doesn’t it continue to cruise down the motorway at a ‘constant velocity’. Explain that, oh smart one. Thought not 😉

        *maybe not ‘doug’s car since ‘doug’ lives on another planet


        September 29, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      • Einstein, that’s the best laugh Ive had all day,lol


        September 29, 2016 at 9:12 pm

      • Einstein.

        You seem to have forgotten about gravity (on a gradient) and the frictional forces acting on the car, like air resistance and resistance in the wheel bearings etc. I’m surprised at you. But then you have been dead since 1955!

        Mad for Jezza

        September 30, 2016 at 10:49 am

      • @ Einstein – Doug’s Laws of Motion only apply within an ‘inertial reference frame’; something only found on Planet Doug where the Laws of Physics* don’t apply. That is why Doug never has to put any fuel in his tank. He cruises down the motorways of Planet Doug within an inertial reference frame… 😉

        *as well as grammar

        Life on Planet Doug

        October 1, 2016 at 12:32 pm

      • Its astounding two people are saying Sir isaac newtons laws of motion are wrong. Living humans whose own bodies demonstrates that every day,even when typing their posts.

        If we take a tennis ball and place it on the ground at rest (motionless), gravity does not flatten the ball nor does the ball float up in the air. So the forces are said to be equal and thus cancel each other out. This is an inertial frame of reference.

        A frame of reference allows use to make measurements from said observations. Not just in the laws of motion but in all science.


        October 6, 2016 at 10:46 am

    • Social norming sounds to me like conformity, which is undoubtedly influential as far as behaviour goes. You can see how the media and previous governments, Tory and Labour, turned the tide against benefit claimants, including the sick and disabled, from sympathy and compassion to suspicion and disapproval. It has now become “normal” for “hard working families” to dislike and even attack “non working families”.

      Twenty years ago the spectacle of millions of people being driven to food banks to avoid starvation in the United Kingdom would have caused riots. Now it has become acceptable. Once upon a time the idea that the needy should be forced to wait for months, literally, for help from the state when in desperate straights as per Universal Credit, getting into all sorts of difficulty as a result would have been unthinkable. Now it is becoming the norm and nobody bats an eyelid. Homelessness, poverty, insecurity, starvation and destitution are gradually increasing and it is becoming normal for the unaffected and more fortunate to turn a blind eye and not give a shit about the suffering – in fact it is becoming normal for comfortably off citizens to actually blame the poor and the destitute for their torturous situations.

      This is social norming in action: things that were once unacceptable become accepted.

      Once you get enough people to accept a form of behaviour en masse it become easy to get other people to stop resisting and conform to the new paradigm. Just like the Nazis did in Germany. Just as the Hutu did in Rwanda. Just like ISIL is doing now in Iraq. Just like the Conservatives are doing in a milder fashion in this country.

      Whether people can be “socially normed” into believing that dirty, shitty, low paid and insecure work is good for them because other people say that it is is another matter altogether. It seem pretty easy to get people to hate other people but getting them to hate themselves enough to demean themselves is another matter. Mind you there’s a lot of miserable people in the world who seem to want to make as many others miserable as well!

      Mad for Jezza

      October 1, 2016 at 8:17 am

  14. Never mind a ‘welfare charter’ – what we want is a new Peasants’ Revolt.

    John Costello
    Activist for ‘We Are Shadows@

    John Costello

    September 28, 2016 at 2:20 pm

  15. Social Cleansing right across the board unless you are the 1% Tory rich = the ones in power called a dictatorship state. State sponsored child murder along with state sponsored DWP Assisted suicide of the disabled. The word your looking for is genocide within a class system with 10th class citizens in a 3rd world country called the UK which is one of the richest countries in the world. The proof is everywhere. The only reason it has to do with poll a tricks is they think they can get away with it by being lazy.

    The Welfare Bill is rising each day & now stands at over £200 billion, so there are no savings to go around. In fact the welfare bill has risen from 0.6% GDP to 5% GDP & next year it will be 10% of the UK`s GDP. A saving of genocide guilty Tories from being charge under the Human Rights Act.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 28, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    • The £200 billion is the over spend.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 28, 2016 at 3:28 pm

  16. OT but important to many.

    Microsoft has paid ($650) to the relative of an Alzheimer’s patient for having to scrub his PC clean of Windows 10. after threatening the giant with court action over an unwanted Windows 10 upgrade.

    Worley has now encouraged other customers to take action through the small claims system if they, too, got Windows 10 without wanting it.

    “They [Windows users] need to read up on their EULA and take Microsoft to the small claims court. Not many people do that or are prepared to take Microsoft because of the high probability of losing,” he said.

    “A lot of folks complete the Windows 10 upgrade and didn’t like but they don’t realize that you can write a letter and get a couple of hundred dollars for the time it took to fix that.”


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    • Microsoft do force the upgrade but then allow you to roll back your system to the previous version of the operating system you were using if you don’t like it. (As long as you do it fairly quickly.) How very queer! This means you download three to four gigabytes of software, forcibly install it on your PC (with a small risk of trashing your system), trying out the new version of the OS and then going back to the state it was in beforehand if you don’t like it. You cannot decline the upgrade though, although on “professional” versions of Windows 10 you can “defer” it, i.e., delay it, but not stop it.

      The Windows 10 update system does not allow users to refuse updates or service packs.

      Microsoft have taken such choices away.

      Thanks guys.


      September 28, 2016 at 10:18 pm

  17. Homeless. and so called charities, don’t count on the numbers below though.

    Communications manager Mike Nicholas said: “There is no need to beg on the streets in 2016”.

    New figures released on Wednesday showed homelessness in England has risen to its highest level for nearly 10 years.

    A total of 15,170 households were classed as homeless in the three months to June 2016 – a jump of 10% on the same period last year, according to figures from Department for Communities and Local Government.

    With more people suffering from homelessness, the general public may feel they wish to give cash to those sleeping rough.


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 4:44 pm

  18. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 28, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    • Something tells me pauly wont want to watch this video.

      You could even say its an attempt to create/reassert the behavior and actions committed thus far that hes lambasting as a social norm.


      September 29, 2016 at 1:30 pm

  19. Violet

    September 28, 2016 at 6:23 pm

  20. Francis Ryan and The Guardian are desperately trying to find a disabled person who’s appealed a benefit decision with written evidence only (so not in person giving oral evidence at tribunal). Francis is doing it to highlight the problems with the government’s proposal to shift appeals online as advocates tell her that – as difficult as giving evidence in person is – doing it purely over paperwork severely reduces a claimants’ chance of success.

    If you’ve appealed via paper/written evidence only and struggled please get in touch with Frances if you’re willing to speak about this


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 7:08 pm

  21. People’s Quantitative Easing.

    The policy is based on ideas put forward by the political economist Richard Murphy.[7] Murphy argues it is a policy designed for use in 2020, in the event the economy remains flat despite traditional quantitative easing, with low inflation, low interest rates, high unemployment and low wages. If the economy is growing strongly, PQE would not be needed as increasing tax revenues would pay for necessary investment


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 8:30 pm

  22. Norfolk helicopter crash data to be kept confidential what’s the problem?


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 10:37 pm

  23. A doctor’s open letter to the Daily Mail is going viral for all the right reasons.

    On 24 September, The Daily Mail published a front page that screamed: PATIENTS AT RISK FROM EU DOCTORS. Now, a doctor has responded, and his response is going viral.

    Neil Tiwari wrote the Facebook post Dear Daily Mail, Enough is Enough after reading the article, and it has now been shared over 18,000 times.

    The gist of the Mail article, which was front-page news, is that due to EU laws on freedom of movement, doctors cannot be tested on their medical competency. If they have had the same level of training as a UK doctor, their qualification has to be presumed to be equivalent.


    news seeker

    September 28, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    • Neil Tiwari is talking bollocks! There is no standardisation of training! Come off it, who would you trust with your life with? A ‘doctor’ with a bought of the shelf qualification or a proper doctor trained at a proper UK university? The first thing we look at when we consult with a professional in any field is the qualification on the wall – where they trained at. And the same goes for driving too – the UK allows any old Tom, Dick or Harriet to drive on our roads on bogus licences. Won’t mention the East European country for fear of being accused of ‘racism’ but ‘driving licences’ are openly sold for a few zwoties. And they are good enough to fool UK coppers – well, that is not too difficult 😉


      September 29, 2016 at 2:08 am

      • …as well as Tomski, Dickski and Harrietski 😉


        September 29, 2016 at 2:10 am

      • Oh yeah, and even if they have got a proper licence their driving standards are still utter shit. All they do is bribe the examiner. Same for the tutors at their ‘universities’ – bring them an an end-of-term present to ensure you qualify as a ‘doctor’. These countries are as corrupt as fuck!


        September 29, 2016 at 2:13 am

      • Poopoo, caca, poopoo, caca. You’re typing a load of nonsensical racist shit, tosspot.

        Kiss me quick

        September 29, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    • There was a BBC Panorama on a few weeks ago showing how easy it was to buy a ‘doctors’ degree… from Eastern Europe to run-down shacks in the Philippines. Life it too short to waste it studying when qualifications are so readily obtainable ‘off-the-shelf’ 😉

      (Dr) Gliian McKeith (PhD)

      September 29, 2016 at 11:49 am

      • Don’t you think that the NHS checks the academic credentials and references of medical practitioners before offering them employment? I can tell you honestly that they do. People charged with the lives of others are investigated scrupulously before accreditation and the opportunity to works in surgeries and hospitals. You can’t be daft enough to believe that anybody could just produce a certificate, which anybody with a decent printer and a PC could run up in their back bedroom, and practice medicine surely? In a country where you need to produce photo ID, birth certificate, CAB check and references just to get a job picking up dog shit in a park?

        Come on now and stop being so daft.

        Kiss me quick

        September 29, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    • I don’t know what planet your from quack but the qualification checks for non uk citizens taking up professional posts is merely to equate where said qualification ranks in equality of competency to our British one. Its not the departments job to discern whether or not its legal and authenticated as that’s the job of the hospital or business taking them on. We use a number system here to tie qualification to person but sadly a lot of other countries don’t so it could quite literally be anyone so to a point even a hospital or business would be hard pressed to authenticate said document.

      As for driving licenses for some 18 years now they have been plastic photocards in line with EU regulations. So anyone holding a crisp new papered version would be regarded suspiciously. I say suspiciously and this is the same reason why fraudulent photocards aren’t any easier to pass of as your own is the driving number is unique for various traceable reasons to the individual that actually attained it. With the real time database tying in other required facets like insurance,mot its harder than either to get away with a fake license these days as police no longer need the license itself and can just put the data in to the computer. So not only would you have to know the vehicle of the real driver, you would have to have an idea of its MOT date dew to a negative data match on the insurance end to the vehicle you are driving and why its probably not addressed to the same place as the other driver as is the customary practice. If you say its not your car then you must also have to know if the original holder has third party privilege to drive any other vehicle than their own as its nolonger a standard condition of insurance. I could go on but lets imagine on that first stop check the police wave you on. They still get in touch with the license holder to confirm details about the stop and what they may need to bring to the police station.

      So from that point, the fake license you had is a bust, cant ever be successfully used again. You car you stopped in would have a stop warning attached to it meaning you cant drive that car anymore and they have your face on camera so now can question you for the incident along with why they stopped you if different to.

      So you would have to be the biggest dick to attempt to use a fake license for other than getting into a bar under age

      Well you can clearly see you cant compare the two systems here quack which by the way is a person acting fraudulently so as to be assumed as though a certified,competent and approved practitioner and rather make your point mute to say the least.


      September 29, 2016 at 3:21 pm

  24. Reblogged this on Declaration Of Opinion .

    Mark Catlin

    September 29, 2016 at 4:57 am

  25. Tuition fees heading over £9,500. gold, silver and bronze.

    This will take tuition fees over £9,500 for students beginning university courses in autumn 2018.

    The government has said higher fees will be linked to teaching quality – but plans released on Thursday suggest that all three quality bands can apply the same increase.


    news seeker

    September 29, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    • Thats £9’500 to £11’000 per year your find as unless the course is on a fast track system or contain little material it wont be just one year. This also does not contain living costs.

      Knowledge is important, its helpful but with an ever increasing count of degrees held means a fall in salaries when over saturation becomes more endemic, more i suspect freelance.


      October 1, 2016 at 8:32 am

  26. Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    DWP issued guidance that made suicides more likely, then ‘lied’ to cover its tracks

    DNS – 29th Sep 2016

    The government has secretly made major changes to guidance given to “fitness for work” benefits assessors that has put the lives of thousands of disabled claimants at risk… and then “lied” about what it had done.

    The changes appear to show ministers made a calculation last year that it was worth risking the loss of some lives in order to cut benefits spending and force more disabled people into their discredited back-to-work programmes.

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) could now face legal action over its decision to bring in the changes without seeking approval from parliament.

    The changes were exposed after DWP released figures last month showing the proportion of claimants placed in the support group of employment and support allowance (ESA) – and therefore not forced to take part in work-related activity – plummeted by 42 per cent between November 2015 and February 2016.

    DWP has claimed the drop was due to a falling backlog in dealing with new ESA claims through the work capability assessment (WCA) system.

    But an archived copy of the version of DWP’s Work Capability Assessment Handbook that was published in February 2015 – which DWP now appears to have removed from its website – proves that key guidance has been significantly altered at some point in the last 18 months.

    These changes mean that assessors are far less likely to place a claimant with a mental health condition in the ESA support group because of the risk to their health if forced into work-related activity.

    In February 2015, the handbook included six indicators of “substantial risk”, which were marked “D” for “definitive” – including someone who was currently sectioned, who had active thoughts of suicide, or had had a documented episode of self-harm requiring medical attention in the last 12 months – to show that that person should be placed in the support group.

    But the latest edition of the guidance says only that such indicators “might” give rise to a substantial risk in “exceptional circumstances”.

    Although the latest version of the handbook was only produced in draft form in February this year, and its final version published in July, a former assessor has confirmed to Disability News Service (DNS) that assessors receive regular updates to guidance from DWP, so the new guidance on “substantial risk” could have been sent out at any time from early 2015 onwards.

    The latest edition of the handbook also tells assessors that they should consider factors that might “mitigate” the chance that someone could harm themselves or others, including “the benefits of employment weighed against any potential risk”.

    Because the changes were carried out through updated guidance – rather than changes to legislation or regulations – DWP did not seek the approval of parliament for the alterations.

    The guidance in the WCA handbook explains to assessors how they should translate ESA regulations 29 and 35, which concern whether decisions to find someone fit for work or able to carry out work-related activity would cause a substantial risk of harm.

    In April, DNS obtained a DWP document through a freedom of information request which suggested amending or removing regulations 29 and 35, and said that such a move would provide substantial savings.

    But the memo – drawn up before the 2015 election, and to be used if the Conservatives triumphed at the polls – warned that previous attempts to remove the regulations had been defeated in the courts, and that any changes in this area “carry a significant handling and delivery risk” because they would be “perceived as restricting application of the safeguards and may be considered discriminatory”.

    DWP’s press office said in April that these “speculative policy formulations” were drafted by staff before the last election and “have not been raised, do not represent government policy and have never been sent to ministers”.

    But comparing the latest handbook with the version issued before the 2015 election shows the regulations have been amended, although by changing the guidance rather than the rules themselves.

    John McArdle, co-founder of the grassroots campaign network Black Triangle, which has played a significant role in raising awareness of regulations 29 and 35 in order to protect thousands of disabled people whose lives would otherwise be at risk, said: “We are currently consulting with lawyers to look at the legality of the guidance.

    “It would appear to us that the guidance they have issued is in breach of the legislation.”

    He said DWP’s actions showed its “blatant dishonesty” and that it “lied” when it said it had not amended regulations 29 and 35.

    Rick Burgess, of Manchester Disabled People Against Cuts, said the changes made to the guidance would “mean more suicides being completed by disabled people placed under unendurable stress by the assessment regime”.

    He said: “The message to us from the DWP is, ‘We want you dead. If you say you are suicidal we will only believe you once you have killed yourself.’

    “This is democide (the deliberate causing of harm or death to citizens by their government).

    “Iain Duncan Smith was an extreme persecutor of disabled people. If Damian Green [the current work and pensions secretary]continues these measures, he will inherit that title.”

    He added: “[Disabled actor and activist] Liz Carr was right to invoke Nazi comparisons recently.

    “This is now the most concerted attack on disabled people in western Europe since Germany’s Chancellor Hitler signed the executive order Aktion T4 in 1939 to murder disabled people the state judged ‘unworthy of life’.”

    A DWP spokeswoman said the new guidance had been developed in conjunction with Maximus, the discredited US outsourcing giant that took over provision of WCAs in March 2015.

    She refused to confirm that the guidance had now made it harder for claimants to be placed in the ESA support group, but said: “The guidance has consistently made clear that if there is a substantial risk to a claimant’s mental health by being placed in the work-related activity group, they should be placed in the support group.”

    Asked if the changes to guidance were made to put into effect the policy proposal laid out in the document released through the freedom of information request, she said: “The freedom of information response showed speculative policy formulations [that]were drafted by staff before the last election in case they were requested by a new government.

    “They have not been raised, do not represent government policy and have never been sent to ministers.”

    Asked if DWP believed that the changes to the guidance would mean more claimants would suffer harm, including death, and if DWP believed this was a price worth paying for finding more people fit for work and fewer people eligible to be placed in the ESA support group, she said: “No.”

    Asked how DWP justified the changes, she said: “The department keeps its guidance to both healthcare professionals and departmental decision-makers under regular review.

    “We introduced new guidance for healthcare professionals on the use of regulation 35 which explains the support the department gives to claimants placed in the work-related activity group.”

    And asked how DWP justified asking assessors to decide if there were factors that would “mitigate the risk” of someone taking their own life if they were found fit for work, including “the benefits of employment weighed against any potential risks”, she said: “Healthcare professionals who carry out the WCA are trained in all aspects of their role including the application of risk.

    “They are also issued with written guidance on all aspects of the WCA including the application of risk.”


    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    September 29, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    • “””A DWP spokeswoman said the new guidance had been developed in conjunction with Maximus, the discredited US outsourcing giant that took over provision of WCAs in March 2015.””””

      The DWP now hiding behind Maximus & US law. If the DWP are going down so are Maximus the DWP spokesperson said. But we the DWP have faith in saving the DWP from prosecution.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      • UC, the DWP don’t want anyone on UC, but if one does make it onto UC, the plan is to get one of it, no matter how, via sanctions.or the closing of the UC claim. weather one has found employment or not. why the six week wait?, admin – nonsense.

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 7:08 pm

      • Someone was on UC, then had a job for 13 weeks, (temp) now back on UC, what is the truth of how long it will be until they receive their first UC payment? any idea Razor.

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 7:20 pm

      • UC is meant to take from 6 to 9 weeks to get a payment for Universal Credit when signing up to it. but most take a lot longer.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 29, 2016 at 7:36 pm

      • Thanks for posting it Razor, a good post, now everyone on here should read it to learn why they are being treated the way they are being treated.

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 7:41 pm

      • Once on UC if you work you can do a “rapid reclaim” without the waiting period, since you don’t get dumped from the system for six months.

        Earthworm Jim

        September 30, 2016 at 2:30 pm

      • If they had got TISA in place stepping razor they indeed would have got away with it.


        September 30, 2016 at 3:40 pm

      • Earthworm jim

        According to the universal credit website they dont class it as a rapid reclaim and a certain rule states,

        you must not be expecting that you or your partner will individually receive take-home pay of more than £338 in the next month (thats a wage equivalent to just under a 11 hours of work a week) or if you have a partner, expect to receive joint take home pay of more than £541 in the next month (thats a wage equivalent to just over a 17 hours of work a week for two persons combined) or not expecting to receive any earnings from self-employment in the next month.


        As your going to receive a last remuneration from work instantly under their rules you wouldn’t be eligible full stop to claim universal credit till after that month meaning your still having to wait a month and even then as theirs no guidance as yet that i can find, could still wait a further month for your first payment meaning a waiting period of 8.6 weeks.

        If anyone has any good material on this do please pitch in as rapid reclaim seems to be an illusive word on any universal credit website and documents i have found.


        September 30, 2016 at 4:30 pm

      • Also a warning to JSA and old style benefit claimants

        If a person terminates their JSA award and reclaims within a re-claim period, this would still be
        a classed as a new claim so, if the person lives in a UC area and satisfies the Gateway
        Conditions, they will claim UC.



        September 30, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      • Thanks for that Doug, someone I know has been told he will receive his first payment of UC since his job ended, in 5 weeks.

        news seeker

        September 30, 2016 at 4:45 pm

      • News seeker

        I dont suppose you could state or find out if this person you mention was drawing tax credits/housing benefit prior to signing on for UC and if so was it under the old system or new ?


        October 1, 2016 at 8:18 am

    • Not just the disabled, as some of us know.

      news seeker

      September 29, 2016 at 5:45 pm

      • Depopulation, especially the disabled because disabled people are not wanted in society, (the hate crime against the disabled) any society in the world. HB, TC, JSA, and every other benefit including UC.

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 6:38 pm

      • The DWP started off with the disabled, then the poor & then hard work families & last of all their own Tory voyers.

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 29, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      • Lets hope for many prosecutions.

        news seeker

        September 29, 2016 at 8:05 pm

  27. Depopulation = Agenda 21 New World Order sheeeeiiit!


    September 29, 2016 at 7:21 pm

  28. Volunteers who hand out food to the homeless in Newcastle face criticism.

    Councillor Nick Kemp, who sits on the Safe board, said: “Having seen this kind of activity elsewhere I know that it is a case of these groups not wishing to be regulated and told what to do, but it is about us having a position as a city, if you want to provide aid you need to behave in a certain way.”

    He added: “We have put in a huge amount of investment, effort, energy and resource into addressing a problem which is a challenge for a great many of our citizens and actually whether through good nature or not the people coming in and providing support are actually just pushing people away from the support services they probably need.

    “We have a role and responsibility to protect our citizens and I am not convinced that their actions do that.”


    news seeker

    September 29, 2016 at 10:28 pm

  29. Bastards obviously don’t want the homeless to be fed, they would rather see them starve to death on the streets.


    September 29, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    • Clearly Kemp is a nutcase that belongs in a insane asylum for the purpose of public safety!


      September 29, 2016 at 10:46 pm

  30. People are poorer than they were a Decade ago due to no longer being paid for employment. amongst other things.


    This is one which isn’t supposed to be seen in 2016, especially by the young, because they are going to learn that reality is the norm.

    BBC news, volunteers in parks, volunteers in library’s. everywhere.

    news seeker

    September 30, 2016 at 8:03 am

  31. Brexit and it’s aftermath. 1hr,33 mins. working class now workless class.

    news seeker

    September 30, 2016 at 9:17 am

  32. Things they said would never happen:

    Brexit – happened
    Donald Trump becoming President of the USA – happened
    First wo/man on Mars – happened
    Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister of the UK….

    Tomorrow's People

    September 30, 2016 at 9:19 am

    • neoliberalism !!!

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 30, 2016 at 1:11 pm

      • Brexit has not happened – Because Brexit will not happen – Well set off Article 50 then & stop moaning !!

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        September 30, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    • The last prediction looks a little fanciful to me…


      September 30, 2016 at 2:28 pm

  33. Government at risk of breaching THEIR OWN minimum wage laws. on welfareweekly,

    At risk they say!.

    news seeker

    September 30, 2016 at 11:33 am

    • The Tories are breaking all their own rules – Guilty by their own omission. Only a fool would do that.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      September 30, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    • Permanently temporary, the only guarantee your get.


      September 30, 2016 at 3:27 pm

  34. A full interview with Loach will be published by DNS (Disability news service) next week. I, Daniel Blake will be released next month

    news seeker

    September 30, 2016 at 4:24 pm

  35. Tax credit claimants owed money after Concentrix errors ‘not getting full refunds’.

    Some people entitled to tax credit back-payments because of errors by HMRC and its private contractor Concentrix are only getting parts of the refunds they are entitled to, an MP has warned.


    news seeker

    September 30, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    • Concentrix were exposed on this site ages ago. The agents are given 10 seconds to ‘process’ a claim. They get a ‘bonus’ for each claim they deny. They just click a ‘check-box’: “Living to together” hit ‘Enter’ and the next claim pops up on their screen. That’s why millions of tax credit claims have been stopped. It is a national disgrace but what we have come to expect from UK Plc.

      Tax Credits Stopped

      October 1, 2016 at 2:25 am

  36. Arbeit Macht Frei

    October 1, 2016 at 3:08 am

  37. Damian Green scraps health assessments for chronically-ill benefit claimants


    “If one green bottle should accidentally fall, their be nine green bottles sitting on the wall”.


    October 1, 2016 at 8:43 am

    • So it should be, It’s a start.

      news seeker

      October 1, 2016 at 10:45 am

    • Something should be done IMMEDIATELY about the five to ten week, or more, wait for Universal Credit by those who are perfectly entitled to expect that support.


      October 1, 2016 at 1:26 pm

  38. Another news presenter just called health secretary ‘Jeremy C**t’ on live TV


    No,no, you were definitely right the first time.


    October 1, 2016 at 8:47 am

  39. Scientists have found having adult kids stuck at home could have health benefits for parents


    Get the impression we are all being pushed back to the days when large families all lived in one house ?


    While it costs the family, the government save on care costs,benefit payments,tax credits,NHS patient overload,etc.

    Getting the picture.


    October 1, 2016 at 8:56 am

  40. DWP plans to scrap advice requirement for overseas pension transfers


    I would distance myself from a tax avoidance scheme where companies could just go bust and you cant do jack diddly about it.

    This isn’t just about drawing on a pension, its also about employees contributing to a pension plan through their employer.


    October 1, 2016 at 9:30 am

  41. I’m an 84-year-old vicar who’s being taken to court – but I won’t pay my council tax until the Government ends austerity



    October 1, 2016 at 9:39 am

    • You’re an 84-year-old vicar!? Seriously, doug!? And who’s being taken to court to boot?! Strewth!

      Wolf Creek

      October 1, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    • And good luck with bringing down the Government’s austerity regime. Down Under it’s even worse than for your Poms. Social security has been cut back so much that out here in the Outback we have been reduced to dining on hapless travelers who get lost in the desert! Strewth.

      Wolf Creek

      October 1, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      • That’s the ticket, cobber. Make them Pommy drongos go walkabout, foraging and hunting for their tucker. There’s berries in the bush, fish in the rivers and the seas, and hedgehogs and squirrels to be boiled in your billy for soup. Who needs benefits when you’ve got nature’s larder?

        Crocodile Glasgow

        October 2, 2016 at 3:21 pm

  42. doug

    October 1, 2016 at 9:49 am

    • Yet more families on the way to living together.

      news seeker

      October 1, 2016 at 11:21 am

    • There will be yet more with AST’s.

      news seeker

      October 1, 2016 at 11:47 am

    • “A Department for Work and Pensions spokesman said: “We have had to take difficult decisions to stabilise our economy and bring down the spiraling Housing Benefit bill”.

      So DWP make decisions on our economy now, is their no end to their expertise, should DWP run the country ?

      As for spiraling housing benefit bill, isnt that because more people are claiming housing and tax credits dew to poor wages for a hard weeks work, ever increasing job insecurity, public sector job cuts and more people dew to a change in retirement age having to work longer.


      October 1, 2016 at 12:14 pm

      • I’m sure that the decisions made my central government will cause great difficulty for local government. It looks as if central government want to slash and burn and leave local authorities to pick up the pieces and take the blame when it turns out that they don’t have enough money to stop droves of people falling through the safety net into the abyss.


        October 2, 2016 at 3:15 pm

      • Its called the Indian call center trick Pauly, a strategy widely used by large businesses.


        October 3, 2016 at 9:36 am

  43. Doug

    I’ll find out and let you know, regarding that person who was on UC, then employed, back on UC.

    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 11:19 am

  44. The Children and Social Work Bill has been working its way through the House of Lords with little fanfare. But among its proposals is a deeply worrying measure that not only shows a breath-taking contempt for democracy and the rule of law, but which could put vulnerable children across the country at serious risk of neglect and abuse.

    Under the proposals, councils will be able to opt out of vital duties under almost every single law covering children’s social care since 1933. This will affect more than eight decades of legislation, some of which was created in response to the most tragic cases of state failure like that of Victoria Climbié and Baby


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 11:30 am

    • First central government distanced themselves from observing and enforcing law and so now local councils are doing it.

      Its called passing the buck and its been deliberate from the Tory get go as division is their game.
      They want us at each others throats as then we are not looking at them as they weave in yet more harsh and unnecessary policies and practices with little regard to the law.


      October 1, 2016 at 12:20 pm

  45. Government plans to make the UK one of the most digitally-skilled nations by training in basic digital skills free for adults lacking relevant qualifications.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 12:02 pm

    • The 2017 Civil Service Fast Stream has a new application process to draw the next generation of leaders from the widest possible talent pool.


      news seeker

      October 1, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    • What utter crap as we already have and for some considerable amount of time free tuition of basic I.T skills not to mention a thousand more free online ones.

      Its another waste of taxpayer money trying to create an illusion of a problem that was already being tackled by the Tories.

      At the moment its optional which means currently government has to supply an alternative method to apply for government services which the Tories hate as it means you actually get to speak to a human who may just decide to use their reasoning for compassion rather than a uncaring unfeeling machine.

      I THINK this is the first stage of an attempt to mandate probably claimants but this does not dis include the public to have to learn to use a computer and run their life online. If you understand SFA funding your know exactly what i mean here.


      October 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm

  46. Appointment of two lay members to the Legal Services Board.

    Catharine Seddon, began working for the judiciary in 2002 and now sits on tribunals in the jurisdictions of social security, employment and mental health. She is a presiding magistrate in Central London and sits as a Lay Assessor under the Equality Act in county court cases.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    • our purpose is to build trust in society and solve important problems. We’re a network of firms in 157 countries with more than 208,000 people who are committed to delivering quality in assurance, advisory and tax services. This what one of the lay members believes in so is more about business and tax than care an concern on equality.

      And the other


      Smell the possibility of im an expert you must judge and doctor on my panel listen to me.


      October 1, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      • My message to claimants going to tribunal is Seddon is a rush merchant, she doesn’t like letting you go from script so IGNORE HER wants and pause and breath and think as much as you want and if your script covers her question then damn well use it as she will probably try and get you to drift from the legal argument, make you sound like you have a personal axe to grind which you MOST CERTAINLY DON’T WANT TO DO.


        October 1, 2016 at 12:51 pm

  47. CETA is a major new business deal that was negotiated in secret between the EU and Canada over five years from 2009 to 2014. It stands for the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement, and it represents one of the ‘new generation’ of trade treaties on behalf of big business that are set to undermine
    our democracy and destroy our basic rights.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 12:59 pm

  48. Double cut – The Cronically Ill are now going to be fast tracked onto UC which means a WCA. The WCA will never pass anyone with Chronic Illness because chronic illness has been cured. It takes 2 minutes to work out the Tory Double cut policy with news that they care. It also does not say when it will happen 5 years 10 years !!!!

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 1, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    • When the Chronically Ill are fast tracked on to UC the WCA they will have to go through is not a re assessment because it is not ESA. So the Chronically will have to be assessed on UC. Why so many people are fooling for it is amazing.

      Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      October 1, 2016 at 1:47 pm

      • It is as yet unclear as to the full scope of medical conditions which will be made exempt from repeated assessments, but it is our understanding that the criteria will be drawn up by health professionals. There were no details about who these ‘health professionals’ will be at the time of publication, or what part they may already play in assessing benefit claimants for ESA – NHS or private sector?

        Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        October 1, 2016 at 3:01 pm


    No one passes the Universal Credit WCA.

    Everyone is fit for work.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 1, 2016 at 3:05 pm

  50. Wake up you disability campaigners – You are fooling yourself with Damian 666 Green.

    There is no victory – The only victory is uncovering the ESA lie.

    It is also a way for the DWP to think they are getting out of a UN investigation with help to the cronically Ill.

    Damian 666 Green is letting a Healthcare Professional [which they have not contracted yet] set the rules of what is a chronic illness. But wait HP`s can cure chronic illness so a saving of £million by a £50 million contract to cure chronic illness.

    Social Cleansing & death for people with chronic illness is the result of the DWP`s new policy.

    What a fucking joke that the Disability campaigner are fooling for some DWP shit.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    October 1, 2016 at 3:18 pm

  51. Cardiff Foodbank opens seventh centre in city.

    The network of food banks in Cardiff has expanded, with organisers saying people on low incomes and from “all walks of life” are using the service.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 3:55 pm

  52. India uncovers hidden billions.

    Undeclared income or “black money.

    The government says the money raised will be spent on public welfare!!.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm

  53. Money calendar offers financial tips.

    Go on know know you want to!


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 4:08 pm

  54. Charlie boy and Tony Blair at Shimon Peres funeral in Israel.


    October 1, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    • Yeah, but Charlie boy and Tony are both ‘diplomats’ 😉

      Shimon P

      October 2, 2016 at 10:18 am

      • WTF does Bliar look like lol 😉


        October 2, 2016 at 11:53 am

      • More like diplotwats


        October 2, 2016 at 12:31 pm

      • The heir to the throne looks too happy considering he’s at the funeral. A right Charlie he is sure enough!


        October 2, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    • Chas appers to have the three feathers of the Prince of Wales embroidered on his kippah. Tosser!

      Sherlock the Warlock

      October 2, 2016 at 4:37 pm

      • 😉


        October 2, 2016 at 5:37 pm

  55. Mrs May has hired Tony Blair’s former policy chief Matthew Taylor to carry out a review of employment practices to improve job security and workers’ rights. “a review”

    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 7:09 pm

  56. The most significant change in the internet’s functioning for a generation.

    the US government will walk away from the IANA contract, which has defined how the internet has grown and been structured for nearly 20 years, and hand it over to non-profit organization ICANN.

    Nothing will change for ordinary internet users – ICANN will keep doing what it has done since its inception in 1999 – but the shift represents something much bigger: the first time that a new communications technology has been released from, rather than pulled under, government control.

    With the transition to ICANN, it will be the internet’s users and not their countries’ representatives who will ultimately decide how the global network develops from here on in.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 8:17 pm

  57. May, ruled out an early general election, saying it would cause “instability”, but said she would repeal the 1972 European Communities Act which took Britain into what is now the EU.

    “We will introduce, in the next Queen’s speech, a Great Repeal Bill that will remove the European Communities Act from the statute book,” she told the newspaper.


    news seeker

    October 1, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    • The good news is that all EU law will remain on the statute book before Brexit. So the DWP will not be able to force people to allow them access to their Universal Jobmatch account saving a lot of people a lot of sanctions.


      October 2, 2016 at 7:41 am

      • Even if they change the law Pauly or you just plainly allow them access, a claimant isn’t under any law required to apply for jobs through said gateway account nor put in any jobs/notes regarding other job sites.

        UJM is mostly populated by other job websites with the reminder being recruitment agencies so why bother applying through UJM when you can apply through the other sites that on some when you look are jobs again from another site. You see every time you go through one of these portals your giving away consent for that website to process certain data so if everyone’s taking the piss does it not make sense to just go to the source of the job in the first place.

        All a claimant has to remember is do their UJM job search prior to going into their gateway account,trace jobs back to source (helps consume the 35 hour rule), apply at source which even when it may have first been placed at say jobsite for instance, tells you the recruitment company or business whose advertising it in mostly all cases. Lastly always remember to use bogus details when registering with any job website with a censored for cyber protection CV, a independent email address or disposable/alias email addresses and its all good.

        So what good is mandating a claimant to allow access when the gateway account will display the same information it had when it was first opened up. So as you can see a law change is neither here nor there as DWP still wont get what they want and for the record even if they blocked to advertising of a advertiser theirs nothing stopping claimants having more than one account which they simply don’t report to DWP as THE SYSTEM only understands file format/type so only responds to the PDF,DOCX part meaning you can upload a blank PDF file as a CV if you like.

        And that’s not all that can be done to scupper DWP’s incessant need to track,to profile.


        October 3, 2016 at 10:00 am

    • Marie

      October 2, 2016 at 11:58 am


    A sovereign nation does not go into debt; if it has “debts”, then it would merely print its own money to get out of debt. A sovereign nation that prints its own currency would be rich and pay its citizens dividends instead of asking them to pay income tax to service the debt to Rothschild.



    October 2, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    • Trouble is if a nation prints money you end up with hyperinflation, i.e., you money in real terms ends up becoming hugely devalued forcing you to spend more and more of it to but less and less.



      October 2, 2016 at 12:41 pm

      • (Typo: For “but” above read “buy”.)


        October 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm

      • At least we wouldn’t be in massive debt to a private central bank and having austerity forced on us so greedy parasite bankers can live in vast opulence at our expense.


        October 2, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    • No. But we would eventually end up paying thousands or even millions of pounds for a banana imported from overseas and eventually be unable to afford to buy anything at all as the nation’s currency became, literally, not worth the paper it was printed on.



      October 2, 2016 at 3:11 pm

      • The nations currency is mere debt notes, worth nothing as it isn’t backed up by a commodity like gold or silver.


        October 2, 2016 at 4:36 pm

      • Maybe so, Marie, but it is better than paying £1million knicker for a banana. Joe and Josephine Public don’t give a flying fuck about whether there currency is backed up by gold, silver or Theresa May’s backside. And neither should use, you should only care about what RESOURCES you can obtain access to, like food, shelter, clothing, heating, fuel, flat-screen TVs, fags, booze, pornos, Sky TV… Money is a man-made abstract concept. And what is gold good for anyway? – you can’t eat it. Gold is practically useless. Give us a banana any day 🙂

        The Monkey Family

        October 2, 2016 at 10:05 pm

      • **And neither should you

        The Monkey Family

        October 2, 2016 at 10:06 pm

      • Actually and we did cover this on this site quite a while back that money has been backed/validated by borrowing/DEBT for ages now. It has long since surpassed gold and silver backing.

        Its so ingrained now we have borrowing/DEBT on borrowing/DEBT, each reliant on the other to be repaid but as we are a society of consumerism we have limits personally and why eventually they look to push such things on the lower working class as you are seeing and have done since 2010 but as we all know 2007/8, it will only all end in a bankrupt planet again with governments doing exactly what they have already done as they are practicing free market capitalists and that’s what they do with every problem in that they believe if you throw enough money at it that it will go away.

        At best it buys time but always ultimately costs you the public whether your working or not. Whats funny about it is you wouldn’t do that out of your own pocket for a stranger who deliberately engineered their own downfall as that’s bad business so why did millions and billions of people allow this and do remember you were never asked, never consulted on something far more important than Brexit.

        Oh and for the record banks and financial institutions are right back at their ill gotten games so its not a case of IF but rather WHEN.


        October 3, 2016 at 10:48 am

      • Debt is such a part of our lives now that we hardly imagine a time when you had to go cap in hand to the bank to ask for an overdraft.

        Andrew Coates

        October 3, 2016 at 3:59 pm

  59. Latymer grammar school asks parents to make up financial shortfall.

    Latymer’s leadership invited parents to a meeting last week to discuss the school’s “very significant financial shortfall”, with parents urged to make regular donations.

    “We are now appealing to all parents and carers of current students to support the school either by making a new or increasing an existing voluntary regular donation,” parents were told in a letter from the school’s headteacher and chair of governors.

    The school has been asking parents for voluntary donations for 20 years, and in the past has used the donations to fund new sports facilities and school refurbishment.

    “The difference is that we’re saying there’s more urgency this year, because of all the cuts that have affected the school,” Cobbett said.


    news seeker

    October 2, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    • Part 1

      news seeker

      October 2, 2016 at 5:15 pm

      • It’s up to all of us to pass on this knowledge and inform the people how they are being deceived by a global syndicate of criminal banksters who are aided and abetted by politicians, the judiciary, and others.

        Only when a sizeable portion of the nation understand how they are being scammed and are outraged enough to do something about it will we have a future of peace and abundance.

        It begins at parish level. Get talking… Inform… Discuss… Elect men and women of integrity who will finally act on behalf of the people of this great nation, and boot out the chancers and con-men who are working to feather their own nests by furthering the interests of the Money Power and their predatory corporations.

        news seeker

        October 2, 2016 at 6:24 pm

      • The video above is yet another which some people won’t want to see. because many people assume they will be safe and protected..

        news seeker

        October 2, 2016 at 6:42 pm

  60. As we repeal the European Communities Act, we will convert the ‘acquis’ – that is, the body of existing EU law – into British law. When the great repeal Bill is given royal assent, parliament will be free – subject to international agreements and treaties with other countries and the EU on matters such as trade – to amend, repeal and improve any law it chooses … Any changes in the law will have to be subject to full scrutiny and proper Parliamentary debate. And let me be absolutely clear: existing workers’ legal rights will continue to be guaranteed in law – and they will be guaranteed as long as I am prime minister.


    news seeker

    October 2, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    • Where’s enigma gone?


      October 2, 2016 at 5:30 pm

      • He’s just being enigmatic.


        October 3, 2016 at 4:57 pm

  61. I usually get called a “Conspiracy Theorist” when I tell folk about ratschild banksters nasty tricks, it’s soooooo insulting, it seems nobody is interested in the truth.


    October 2, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    • We are only interested in the truth Marie, so keep on informing others of the truth.

      news seeker

      October 2, 2016 at 7:27 pm

      • I shall ☺


        October 2, 2016 at 7:39 pm

  62. The MSI Group are advertising lots of these jobs at the moment:

    Search for ‘Medical Assessor’

    “Medical Assessor

    Are you looking for a new position using your experience and skills gained to date in a new challenge?Do you have at least two years current experience within the NHS or relevant health setting?We may have the ideal job opportunity for yourself as a Functional Assessor!

    The position is a Monday to Friday 0900 to 1700 job, paying £72k a year.

    The role of a Functional Assessor is to conduct medical assessments and examinations and produce concise reports for the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) as part of a successful integrated team.

    You would not be asked to make a decision on whether or not the customer should receive benefits, you would only be asked to conduct a holistic and clinical assessment on the customer, collating all the information into a report for the DWP.

    MAIN RESPONSIBILITIES:To undertake a combination of file-work and face-to-face assessments of customers in relation to a variety of benefits and provide a report to the DWP. File-work involves reviewing medical evidence in a written or electronic format to determine the suitability of a face-to-face assessment. Such assessments focus on how a disability affects a customer`s day to day life in performing work related activities. These assessments may be recorded.To use IT software programmes to support clinical decision making when undertaking file-work and examinations.To provide comprehensive reports to enable decision makers at DWP to make informed decisions regarding benefit claims.Ensure that professional practice standards and “best practice” are maintained in all areas of workTo deliver productivity and quality standards agreed between the Centre and the DWP and to respond positively to feedbackTo undertake recorded assessments where requiredTo work unsupervised and use own initiative however know limitations and ask for support where necessaryTo analyse and interpret clinical information and medical evidence and provide a report in a professional and concise mannerWork well as part of a multidisciplinary team and build positive working relationships with both medical colleagues and administrative support staffApply professional skills and manage own professional competence and accountability, in accordance with the NMC Code of Conduct

    If you would like any more information about the role or the benefits that are available with this position, please do not hesitate to contact us.

    We would also be more than happy to pay you a referral bonus if you know any RGNs or Physiotherapists that would be interested in the position of a Functional Assessor who are successful at interview, so please do ask your friends and colleagues.

    We hope to hear from you soon!MSI RECRUITMENT

    Apply Now

    Universal Jobmatch Alerts

    October 2, 2016 at 9:49 pm

  63. Thousands join defiant anti-austerity march through Birmingham to fight Tories – and ‘the Blairites’

    Thousands marched against austerity today in a defiant protest as the Tories kicked off their party conference.

    Organisers claim more than 10,000 activists and union members joined the demo organised by the People’s Assembly Against Austerity just minutes from the plush venue where Theresa May spoke in Birmingham.

    Samba drums sounded a ear-splitting beat as marchers chanted “Tory scum!” and “Tories out!”, protesting against six years of damaging benefit sanctions and public sector cuts.

    But fury was also saved for Labour’s internal fight – with a union boss suggesting MPs opposed to Jeremy Corbyn should face mandatory reselection.


    news seeker

    October 2, 2016 at 9:50 pm

  64. You would not be asked to make a decision on whether or not the customer should receive benefits, you would only be asked to conduct a holistic and clinical assessment on the customer, collating all the information into a report for the DWP.

    Universal Jobmatch Alerts

    October 2, 2016 at 9:50 pm

  65. We would also be more than happy to pay you a referral bonus if you know any RGNs or Physiotherapists that would be interested in the position of a Functional Assessor who are successful at interview, so please do ask your friends and colleagues. 😉

    Universal Jobmatch Alerts

    October 2, 2016 at 9:56 pm

  66. Is Theresa May a clone of Maggie Thatcher?


    October 3, 2016 at 8:13 am

  67. In his conference speech later, Mr Hammond will say Mr Osborne’s deficit reduction policies “were the right ones for that time”, adding: “But when times change, we must change with them.”

    Mr Hammond will say the government will still “restore fiscal discipline” but in a “pragmatic way that reflects the new circumstances we face”, promising further details in November’s Autumn Statement

    “We need to keep the lid on day-to-day spending, we need to make government more streamlined and efficient but I do think there is a case that we should look at very carefully for targeted, high-value investment in our economic infrastructure.”


    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 8:57 am

    • “But make no mistake. The task of fiscal consolidation must continue. And it must happen within the context of a clear, credible fiscal framework that will anchor expectations, control day-to-day public spending, deliver value for money and get us back living within our means.”


      news seeker

      October 3, 2016 at 9:04 am

    • Bank of England confirms will hold broader bank stress test in 2017.

      The annual stress test typically focuses on potential near-term threats to banks. This year’s test looks at the dangers from a “severe slowdown” in the British and global economy.


      news seeker

      October 3, 2016 at 9:35 am

    • We here again said a while back that this government would never achieve the deficit surplus so this is just them climbing down breaking yet another promise they made to the electorate. Economists demonstrated how their would have to be a massive hole in government expenditure far beyond tapping the welfare system.

      The warning sign to know your government is in real trouble is when they begin to target pensioners, the largest pot they if you remember sort to boost and lock like a very convenient government saving account.


      October 3, 2016 at 11:03 am

      • I bet you’ve heard of sweat shops but i bet you’ve never heard of mobile sweat shops.

        Youve seen how the standard model works, you can also find out their are no such operations in places like Iraq,Iran,libya,syria,etc. This means theirs nowhere else to saturate with sweat shops.

        Now with a business head imagine what you could do if you could make that sweat shop mobile (ie, its workforce), imagine how it would work if you could put a mobile sweatshop in every western country. Gone is the cost of transporting natural resources, the workplaces are already in place so only lack you would think cheaper labour. Well what if you do not change the hourly rate but instead change the working tempo.
        This we call micro management whereby we place quantity over quality like for instance a job that’s always taken 20 minutes to compete competently now taking 10 minutes.

        So by making sweat shops labour mobile not only do we get savings we get to use them in the service sector too so now the sweat shop model can apply itself to any trade.

        As we have seen and sharing our lives with are not tons of people from financially sound countries doing manual low to no skilled jobs but instead people from war torn countries of the east and eastern European countries all dew to current events like instability in the Ukraine, the EU sanctioning Russia and general cutting back on importing by the likes of Germany,Russia,UK,neighboring states like Poland, Lithuania, the Czech Republic and Slovakia,Ukraine,etc and thus causing a knock on effect. You will also notice their large Agriculture based countries and that’s another cursory tail for a different time but none the less plays a major part in this EU migration.

        Its been said and documents are starting to produce evidence to the effect of that instability was deliberately engineered in these places by western governments to induce the flow of migration so as to utilize its workforce in a prescribed manner which is cost savings for investors, more profit return and the driving down on western workers wages and rights.


        Well it forces you to compete, you know all that competition their talking of, well hello as while your wages wont necessarily go down straight away, whats expected for them has and is borne out by production per worker figures.

        So for a 25 to 49 year old UK born worker when we factor of things i have said recently and in the past, we have the following obstacles.

        Cheap labour supplied by under 25 year old UK born citizens who are either costing a mere £3.00 an hour on apprenticeships which by the way sees the family lose child related assistance or a major reduction (the government profits also) or under 25 year olds at a £5’00 and hour or less wage usually via ZHCs although not exclusively.

        Over fifties who thought they were going to retire or thought their unchanging serious health condition wouldn’t see them working pushing from the top while in the middle,

        Migrants who unwittingly for their own self survival huddled and sold like cattle never realizing if the UK has to match their scales then they intern to perpetrate the down sizing of wages and conditions that the next time their be expected to do the same job but this time in 5 minutes.

        In short everyone is played off against each other with the hook if you don’t work, you don’t eat,drink and have a roof over your head, a very powerful incentive yes and echoing our welfare reform don’t you think and why we are seeing food banks expand yearly.

        You see your always have poverty, crime and illness/disablement as their isn’t work for everyone as their isn’t enough money (so not resources) for everyone as the one percent have the lion share and they don’t intend to give it up as centralization takes a lot of planning and a stack of money to bring into being.

        The reason why 2007/8 you didn’t suddenly fall into what it was like to live in the great depression is because your still being eased into it. You see they printed their way out of cancelling the 2007/8 depression by but like all money it has to be repaid and so we begin with the low hanging fruit working our way up. We know just by asking anyone at the bottom that even with work their more reliant on state handouts even more than they were post 2007/8 so theirs no change life wise their but negatively. We know more and more workers are reliant on tax credits and housing subsides at various levels so again presents a negative downward trend. This leaves the middle class which will see its SMEs attacked by corporations in various ways of competition,funding,sabotage and buy outs. We see they have lost quite a bit on tax/child credits and housing assistance making them have less savings and now we are seeing an attempt to over saturate the high skill market by encouraging more kids than ever to take and acquire degrees in those fields so as to make that particular markets workforce common as muck and ultimately cheap as chips to the point it does not relate much differently to the low end spectrum of the labour market.


        October 3, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      • Mobile sweat shops, the amount one learns on here, it’s all good.

        news seeker

        October 3, 2016 at 9:02 pm

  68. Computer code used to mount one of the biggest web attacks ever seen has been released online.

    Security experts fear the release will prompt more massive attacks that knock sites offline by swamping them with data.

    The attack tool seeks out smart devices in homes that are weakly protected with easy-to-guess passwords.

    Net monitoring firms said they had already seen an increase in scans that seek out vulnerable devices.

    The “Mirai” source code was released on a widely used hacker chat forum over the weekend.


    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    • Nothing illegal about writing source code.


      October 3, 2016 at 1:56 pm

  69. Can the DWP close someones UC claim because they didn’t sign an updated CC because what was added to it was illegal?

    Advisor did not make another JC appointment, usually every two weeks.

    Advisor didn’t bother looking at this persons job searcg/jobs applied for, evidence.

    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    • Well on whatdotheyknow it seems the answer is no. aother case of what they don’t say.

      news seeker

      October 3, 2016 at 3:38 pm

      • Any contract under law requires lawful consent from both parties and as we know cannot be said to be lawful if it was gained under force,threat or deception.

        All the consent does in this case is establish if you find in favor of said new changes along side the standing ones. It does not mean you wont be expected to not do it if its reasonable,achievable and not in contravention to pre existing laws.


        October 3, 2016 at 6:53 pm

      • Thanks Doug.

        news seeker

        October 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm

  70. ‘Slave labour’ in the prisons of eastern Ukraine.

    Human rights activists in eastern Ukraine say they have evidence that slave labour camps reminiscent of Soviet gulags are operating in rebel-controlled areas. A newly published report alleges that 5,000 people in the self-declared Luhansk People’s Republic are held in solitary confinement, beaten, starved or tortured if they refuse to carry out unpaid work.


    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 5:37 pm

  71. More regarding the state of schools.

    Schools consider four-day week in cost cutting drive, W Sussex.

    Schools are also considering cutting class sizes, reducing cleaning and maintenance, buying fewer books and computers, implementing a more basic curriculum, and not replacing staff who leave.

    But many schools have already taken these steps and are still looking to save money.


    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 7:48 pm

  72. Andrea Leadsom hopes young Britons will take up fruit picking jobs done by EU migrants

    She hopes more youngsters can be encouraged to ‘engage with countryside matters’

    Andrea Leadsom, who withdrew from the Tory leadership race in July, said she hoped more youngsters could be encouraged to “engage with countryside matters” and take up jobs and careers in food production.

    She said: “There are two sorts of employee who have migrated to this country. One are permanent employees who have come here from the EU or from elsewhere in the world.

    Asked if it was possible for Britons could do the jobs instead, she said: “Of course it is, that is a whole different issue.”

    She added: “We could get British people doing those jobs and that tempts me to stray into the whole issue of why wages aren’t higher and so on.


    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

  73. “Other Types of ID
    If you don’t have a government-issued photo ID, you can upload two alternate forms of ID. We accept:

    Company or school ID
    Library or gym membership card
    Birth certificate
    Social security card
    Bank statement
    Utility bill

    Together, the two IDs should clearly show your name, birthday, and photo.”

    Fakebook are getting too fucking big for their boots. What fucking right do these bastards have to demand ID to access a fucking website! Hey Fuckerberg – fuck off, you fucking knobhead!

    Fakebook is shite

    October 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    • Yeah, its a driving licence, passport, ‘Government ID’ that they ask for first off. If you say you don’t have any they move on to you company or school ID etc.

      Fakebook is shite

      October 3, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    • Tesco’s do the same at the end of an on line application for employment.

      news seeker

      October 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    • Another reason people will no longer use Facebook, just like the digital passport.

      news seeker

      October 3, 2016 at 8:53 pm

  74. news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm

  75. New Chief Executive for Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunals Service. Susan Acland-Hood.

    I am delighted to have been given the privilege of leading Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunals Service. There are few things more important than the rule of law, and justice well administered; and few things more rewarding than making change for the better. We have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to deliver a transformed justice system that is faster, better, and more accessible to all. I have already been impressed by the dedication and commitment of HMCTS’s excellent staff, and I look forward very much to working alongside them to add technology to our powerful and respected traditions, and give us the best justice system in the world.


    news seeker

    October 3, 2016 at 10:17 pm

  76. Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is to announce an expansion in training places from 6,000 to 7,500 a year.


    news seeker

    October 4, 2016 at 8:50 am

    • news seeker

      October 4, 2016 at 11:14 am

    • The lack of training places for doctors is nothing to do with Jeremy C*unt… er, sorry Jeremy Hunt. It is the BMA (British Medical Association) who are responsible for this dire situation since it is them who in their own self-interest strictly limit the numbers of doctor training places. This is the only ‘profession’ in which this is allowed to happen. It has always been as such. As ‘doug’ points out above it is all down to simple supply and demand; if you restrict the supply (deliberately) doctors can demand inflated salaries. What C*unt, er, sorry Hunt, seem to be getting tongue-tied today 😉 , needs to do is to tell the BMA to take a hike and open the flood-gates to doctor training. Many, many more students, particularly from poorer backgrounds would love to be given the opportunity to enter this ‘profession’ but are denied access to this middle-class preserve. Of course salaries would plummet for these privileged middle-classers, but so be it.

      Incidentally, contrary to what the medical ‘profession’ would have you believe, you don’t have to be clever to become a doctor; at university the second thickest students are in the faculty of medicine, the thickest are in the law school!

      Dr Spooner

      October 4, 2016 at 11:17 am

  77. The hidden costs of recycling in Britain has been revealed after around a dozen polish men were discovered by police living in slave like conditions and paid paltry sums to sort rubbish for 12 hours a day.

    Officers in the West Midlands raided two recycling businesses as part of an investigation into modern slavery in Britain.



    October 4, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    • “The greatest cruelty is our casual blindness to the despair of others”

      Because many people just don’t care, as we know.

      news seeker

      October 4, 2016 at 12:43 pm

  78. Time to break promises to pensioners, you’ll soon have to work.


    news seeker

    October 4, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    • It probably won’t be to long until pensioners are forced to do workfare in a stinking charity shop and forced to pay bedroom tax!


      October 4, 2016 at 1:45 pm

  79. The Pirate party, that’s a new one! but it’s not here, yet.

    news seeker

    October 4, 2016 at 1:21 pm

  80. the ujm site has not worked since sunday as it does not find any jobs no matter what you set it at ?


    October 4, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    • I thought it was just me. Thought my pc had a virus or something. My avatars changed colour. WTF!

      jj joop

      October 4, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    • There are other job sites Superted, such as Indeed, but first take notice of doug’s warnings.


      1: DON’T use your FULL NAME, a christian name will suffice for the purposes of merely applying for a job in the first instance.

      2: DON’T use all your contact details, an email address or phone number with the area of residence (ie, Milton Keynes,London,etc) will suffice for the purposes of merely applying for a job in the first instance.

      3: DON’T display company names of where you have worked, simply display position and time in employment which will suffice for the purposes of merely applying for a job in the first instance.

      4: DON’T display college/university addresses of where you attended, Type of qualification and level will suffice for the purposes of merely applying for a job in the first instance.

      5: DON’T display affiliations with social sites (ie, Facebook,Twitter,etc) or any website where you have used personal data during registration.

      6: DON’T display age,height,weight,disablements, illnesses or include pictures identifying you as you.

      7: DON’T display National Insurance number,tax code, bank details, references or any such data that makes you, you (ie, any two or more pieces of data that identify you as say, ” a specific Mr Alan Turing distinguishable from other Alan Turings)

      (A christian name with a home residence address as one example,is considered personal data under the eyes of the law).

      MAKE CLEAR on your CV that dew to the constant cyber threats, you have taken the necessary security steps to protect your personal and or sensitive data in full accordance of the data protection act as the data subject. Explain that such data will be released only at a time when in the physical presence of an interviewer at a physical address and only then dependent upon proceedings going according to the data subjects (you) wishes.

      FAR to OFTEN agencies/employers/nefarious bodies DON’T SEEK the usual FORMAL CONSENT PROCEDURE and WILL OFTEN PREVENT DATA SUBJECTS (you) from PROCEEDING WITH AN APPLICATION where such personal and or sensitive data IS NOT FULLY WARRANTED at such an early juncture. THEY USE whats termed IMPLIED CONSENT which is under law legally acceptable as a sign of FORMAL CONSENT (ie UNIVERSAL JOBMATCH,INDEED,etc)

      (An example is refusing to allow a person registration for an account (ie gateway) without the person first consenting to their processing arrangements (ie, supply such data to a third party,etc). This is under the definition of law considered IMPLIED CONSENT.

      A data subject has the legal right to know exactly how their data is processed and has the right to obtain such a full statement however exhaustive that list is PRIOR TO GIVING ANY FORM OF LEGALLY BINDING CONSENT.




      news seeker

      October 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    • UJM is still not returning any search results. You haven’t been able to search for a job on UJM since Sunday! And this is Tuesday! Nothing short of outrageous!

      *note to tell coachy

      Frustrated Jobseeker

      October 4, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    • ..could be because there ARE NO JOBS… 😉


      October 4, 2016 at 3:36 pm

  81. done that 10 years ago 😉


    October 4, 2016 at 2:48 pm

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