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Iain Duncan Smith’s Ipswich Visit Ruined.

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Ipswich Protest Last Year.

Somebody (okay, Martin from Disabled People Against Cuts, DPAC)  spoilt Iain Duncan Smith’s Big Day Out (Friday) at Kesgrave, by Ipswich – a venue you can only get easily with your own transport.

Former minister launches Vote Leave campaign in East Anglia

Former minister and Conservative Party leader Iain Duncan Smith was the keynote speaker at the event at Kesgrave Hall – and was joined by business leaders and politicians from other parties.

Among those at the rally was UKIP MEP Patrick O’Flynn, a key backer of the Vote Leave campaign.

East Anglian Daily Times.

A protester in a wheelchair was removed from the meeting after heckling Mr Duncan Smith over his policies when he was Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

On BBC Look East that evening their were pictures of the stewards roughly bundling Martin out of the Great Man’s meeting, shouting his opposition to the hate-ridden polices which Iain Duncan Smith has inflicted on millions.

Duncan Smith was not the only horror there.

UKIP is keeping quiet about it at the moment but in 2013 these were their policies about the unemployed:

UKIP don’t just loathe migrant workers.

They hate the unemployed here as well.

We are, UKIP says, “a parasitic underclass of scroungers”. (The Void)

They want this policy,

Require those on benefits – starting with Housing and Council Tax Benefit recipients in private rented homes – to take part in council-run local community projects called ‘Workfare’ schemes. The schemes will be in addition to council jobs.

The Void comments that it is now hard to find the policy document that says this.

But more evidence keeps coming in of their views,

We have this,

“Some long-term benefit claimants would be banned from using their benefit cash to buy cigarettes, alcohol or satellite TV subscriptions under proposals due to be presented at the UK Independence party’s spring conference on Saturday.

The proposed ban on paying for satellite TV comes only a fortnight after it was disclosed that Rupert Murdoch, the chairman and biggest shareholder of News Corp, had met the Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, for the first time, prompting speculation that the Sun may support the party.”

Which reminds us of this on Welfare Weekly’s site:

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Would leaving the EU worsen or improve the lives of poor and disabled people?

Results so far: Worsen 59% Improve 21% Don’t know 20%

 

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Written by Andrew Coates

April 18, 2016 at 10:08 am

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  1. “Every speaker said exactly what I wanted to hear” of course, that is what every speaker will do.

    enigma

    April 18, 2016 at 2:03 pm

  2. Leaving the EU – worse for the poor & disabled.

    enigma

    April 18, 2016 at 2:29 pm

  3. UKIP have buried their 2013 policy – for now….

    But let’s not forget this incident when they let the mask slip, (2012)

    “After Scrapbook exposed sick comments from a UKIP councillor on banning unemployed people from voting, the party’s most high-profile new recruit has rushed to his defence, claiming Cllr Tom Bursnall “has a point”, going on to say it is “dangerous” to let unemployed people vote.

    Having defected from the Tories, 23 year-old Alexandra Swann was the star turn at UKIP’s recent conference in Skegness — with party leader Nigel Farage proudly declaring that “the Swann has migrated”.

    But appearing to agree with Cllr Bursnall, who as the former chair of Conservative Future is also a defector from the Tories to UKIP, she continued:

    “allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they don’t contribute — is dangerous”

    http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/04/alexandra-swann-unemployed-voting/

    Andrew Coates

    April 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    • Its talk like this that just goes to show how dumb some people are.

      What if we had an outbreak of unemployment like the great depression. How then would democracy work, how would it not turn into a dictatorship ?

      Do UKIP seriously think their electorate would be on the winning side ?

      doug

      April 19, 2016 at 8:46 am

  4. Consider the government’s opinion of poor, disabled and unemployed people and the lengths to which they seem to be going to insist that we would all be so much better off in the EU (I’ve had three leaflets through my door in the last month).

    If the current government are so desperate that we should stay in the EU, is that in itself not a neon flashing sign declaring that we should absolutely vote out?

    AeonThePhoenix

    April 18, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    • But a winning vote out would bring in the Bill of Rights.

      Weather we stay in or out, the attack on the majority will continue.- my opinion.

      enigma

      April 18, 2016 at 6:25 pm

      • I totally agree Enigma.

        The Tories – all groups included – hate our guts.

        Andrew Coates

        April 19, 2016 at 10:08 am

  5. You can’t keep a good thing down!

    Scrounger is now a fraudster

    Availability is now termed change in circumstances

    ken

    April 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm

  6. Pay to go for a run in a park, now pay for a walk in the woods.

    This year we’ll be making a small charge to enter the wood between 10am and 4pm on Saturday 30 April, Sunday 1 May, Monday 2 May and Saturday and Sunday 7 and 8 May. The charge will be £3 for adults (16 and above) and £1 for children (under 5 free). Please note that we can only take cash.

    http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/ashridge-estate/features/protecting-the-bluebells-at-ashridge

    enigma

    April 18, 2016 at 8:58 pm

  7. Frank Field proposes national wage top-up for lower paid over-50s

    Labour MP and welfare reform campaigner says idea would help counter higher unemployment rate among 50–64 age group

    Workers over 50 forced into lower-paid work after losing their jobs would receive an earnings top-up worth £200 a week under a national wage plan proposed by the Labour MP Frank Field.

    The longstanding campaigner for welfare reform said employees aged between 50 and 64 should be eligible for government financial support worth £10,000 a year for two years provided they had a track record of paying their national insurance contributions. He said his idea would help counter higher rates of unemployment among the over-50s and would be politically popular because the public would see that they could benefit from their NICs.

    “We need to rebuild support for the welfare state,” Field said. “That can be done by showing people that if they pay money in, they get something out.”

    He added that he had singled out the 50–64 age group because they were particularly hard hit by unemployment. Almost half of the jobless among them have been out of work for six months or more, compared with a third of those aged 16 to 24.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/18/frank-field-proposes-national-wage-top-up-for-lower-paid-over-50s

    enigma

    April 18, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    • Bet he won’t be living by example.All this shows is there a problem with attitudes towards older people in the terriible job maket dominated by recruiment agencies.Wonder is that why attitudes to the over 50s is so bad at jobcentre plus along with other groups’.

      ken

      April 19, 2016 at 10:53 am

  8. The Reaper

    April 19, 2016 at 11:54 am

  9. OT: Another insane Idea by Idiot Fool, Politicians

    h/t to unemploymentmovement:
    http://unemploymentmovement.com/forum/chat/2480-loans-to-pay-for-work-experience.html

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14435701._Poorer_pupils_should_have_access_to_loans_for_work_experience_/

    “DISADVANTAGED school children who do not want to go to university should be able to access some form of student loan, a Conservative MP has said.

    “Philip Davies insisted pupils can benefit from loans that allow them to access work experience in big cities and other opportunities that may otherwise be outside their reach.”

    UM Comments:

    What next – loans for nursery care that kids repay before they start work experience!

    ME:

    Where do you start with this insane &^*t?

    a] unable to go to college/university – perhaps its due to the cost?
    b] would be unemployed student goes to bank for loan to go to college/university – yes, I can really see a student at that age getting a loan for thousands and thousand…
    c] Poor – “Loan, being poor”, isn’t there a clue in that about why this is a non starter for Banks etc?

    etc etc

    basically, its lets get our hooks into them young, and make them even poorer [what’s the guarantee that the course will even get them a job – especially considering the piss-poor advice that sent thousands for unwanted courses] & and as a plus, get them in debt…

    Gazza

    April 19, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    • It’s called usury – one of the main the basis on which our ‘successful’ business society is built.

      One group of people, rentiers, own the bodies making loans, and profit from the rest of society.

      The other example is landlords, a whole class of people who own property and live off the rents others pay to them.

      Yet another are ‘providers’ for the various courses the out of work have to do: they live off the unemployed.

      There are plenty of other examples……..

      Andrew Coates

      April 19, 2016 at 3:45 pm

  10. COULD AV BEEN WORSE

    Knew my Spidey sense was working the last time I signed on, just been to jcp and now have a new work coachy and now have to sign every week instead of fortnightly, I suppose that’s the first punishment for not giving them access to universal job match.

    New coachy wasn’t too bad, only checked the first 2 printouts (can’t remember last time they checked them all) but I know the day is coming when they methodically go through my jobsearch, painstakingly looking for a fault and a sanction doubt to arise.

    So now I’ll be feeling sick every “week” for a few hours before going to the most awful, depressing place for committing the crime of being unable to find a job.

    PS, keep up the good work of informing everyone out there.

    blimey2016

    April 19, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    • They’ll soon change this sign on every week when they see it has no effect on you. As long as you make sure to have more job applications than required, if they do pick out one job, you can always say theirs others to look at to replace it. They through their laziness or workload will only be able to pick bones with UJM applications if you haven’t figured that out yourself lately so dot the I’s and cross the T’s and your be just fine.

      Also incase your still doing it, stop using your claimant commitment book as a way to present evidence, do it with paper and printouts as then your not tied to explaining it all and its not like they really care other than to find ways to trip you up.

      doug

      April 19, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    • blimey2016

      Jobsearch details needed to win a sanction (I did):

      – email address (preferably through a site like Reeds which does NOT show said email address until after applied – Proof Positive that you applied]
      – date applied
      – location of job
      – job title

      I have for past 3 years have being giving them this proof – they’ve now given up on creating a sanction from the above as they no longer want to take it – paper builds up quick you know.

      Oh and copy off the details into a seperate file with the dates of the applications – just in case dwp try and get cute by asking for past applications.

      Gazza

      April 19, 2016 at 7:30 pm

  11. if they want copy of my ujm job search via paper its 10p per page or can see screen shots on my phone.

    if they sanction me for it ill appeal and take um to tribunal other wise.;)

    superted

    April 19, 2016 at 8:56 pm

  12. Gazza, why the past applications, what regulation exactly commands a claimant must keep work search evidence ?

    doug

    April 20, 2016 at 7:02 am

    • doug

      You are quite right, there is no regulation they can quote or apply, but I have been told, and seen myself that particular Civil Servants/and here Work Coaches are racist, – they couldn’t even after an hour and a half make up a excuse to apply the sanction which is why everything to do with it is Blank on WP records. I have given them the rope to hang themselves with as I went way over and above what was needed for years (cut back now as point proven).

      The way they applied the Sanction meant it was sent “The Proper DM outside the building” to look at and retract, but the damage was done over the Xmas period.

      If I have anything to do with it now It’s My Turn.

      Gazza

      April 20, 2016 at 12:01 pm

      • Any other job would see an employee let go for so many mistakes which proves DWPs true intent don’t you think ?

        doug

        April 20, 2016 at 3:02 pm

      • doug

        what you said – says it all.

        Gazza

        April 20, 2016 at 4:14 pm

  13. Industry body warns of Universal Credit ‘disaster’ for private rental sector

    https://www.lettingagenttoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2016/4/industry-body-warns-of-universal-credit-disaster-for-lettings-sector

    At least this highlights claimants aren’t the only ones DWP regularly cold shoulders and yet another example of how the new system that’s suppose to be easier is infact , HARDER and INCOHERENT.

    doug

    April 20, 2016 at 7:51 am

    • Many more homeless, but as many people are and will be laid off in the future, – on to UC. will those properties stay empty?.

      enigma

      April 20, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      • The amount of unoccupied properties let alone owned land that could be built on across the UK is staggering Enigma.

        If DWP in time cant get to grips with this, they will have no choice but to set new conditions for homeless people not that they shouldn’t already have this as who hires a homeless person meaning job searching is completely pointless yet spend your days looking for a property and wham, your adviser will sanction you.

        doug

        April 20, 2016 at 3:09 pm

  14. Musselburgh woman Angela Hogg sentenced for £47,000 wrongful benefits claims

    http://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/14437506.Musselburgh_woman_sentenced_for___47_000_wrongful_benefits_claims/

    This woman carried this out over near 10 years so £4,700 a year. Now i wonder how much did the investigation cost, staff wages, arrest, court appearances, solicitors, prosecutor, the community work order she’s been handed and it appears is tagged so that cost as well.

    I bet it costs more than £47,000.

    For a government that states we need to cutback on welfare expenditure, they sure seem to be wasting a lot punishing people for a crime that costs less than the case against them when all is put together and lets not forget, DWP dont get the money back. Lodging appeals after appeals in court and false advertising.

    doug

    April 20, 2016 at 8:05 am

  15. The reason given by Maximus why some people don`t et an ESA50 form is that is special cases people with Mental Health Issues do not fill out a ESA form & go straight to a WCA because people with Mental Health are not able to fill out forms. Maximus policy. Ask the DWP if that`s the DWP policy & they will say No it`s not the DWP policy. So how come it`s the DWP`s contractors policy then.

    People with Mental Health will not get a public form because mental health people are not able to fill out forms. Women will not be getting a form because women are not able to fill out forms. Black people are not able to fill out forms. Jewish people will not be getting a form because Jewish people are not able to fill out forms.

    DWP you are powerless unless you change your contractors policy on the matter or the DWP are liable for Discrimination for actions based on the policy.

    I have now been banned from every public form & banned from all jobcentres. Being banned off every DWP public form speaks for itself. Dictatorship controls who gets public forms. I have been banned form the Welfare State. So I would like to report myself for 35 years of benefit fraud which you have to investigate. So you will need to dig out 35 years of my DWP papers & by law you have to take action. So do your work & take me to court.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    April 20, 2016 at 11:44 am

  16. Use tax disobedience to create a fairer society.

    The latest tax scandal is bringing the erosion of our democracy into ever sharper focus. Britain suffers under an enormous democratic deficit due to state capture by “free”-market neoliberal fundamentalism and its associated corporate and financial interests, in aggressive ascendancy since the 1970s. Notwithstanding the 2008 financial crisis, this capture of the state has remained unaddressed, with successive governments shamefully complicit in it. Despite copious corroborative research and endless petitioning and protesting, all we’ve seen is disingenuous hand-wringing and political evasion.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/18/use-tax-disobedience-to-create-a-fairer-society

    enigma

    April 20, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    • All capitalism is, is the aspect of why communism didn’t work. They took this abuse of power and greed and basically made it legal for all people to behave that way irrespective of whether or not its legal or not. But just like two men walking into a bookies but one only has a pound and the other a 100 and they bet and win on the same horses.No matter how much the 1 pound man bets, he will always be a 100 times behind the other and this is why capitalism cant work long term.

      Its like murder, the law doesn’t say you cant do it, it merely states what will happen if you do.

      As for democracy, its nothing but a smoke screen as imagine you voted all your life but not once did your voted party get in. How are you not living under a dictatorship ?

      Like in America currently, instead of the Republicans respecting and honoring a democratic system has recently set about taking votes from Trump and given them to Cruz because they don’t want him in presidency. I wont get into the ins and outs of it but generally the Republican politicians are looking to drive out Trump even though he has and will secure the most Republican votes of them all.

      doug

      April 20, 2016 at 3:31 pm

  17. US getting involved.

    Staying in EU ‘best hope’ for UK’s future say ex-US Treasury secretaries.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36087583

    enigma

    April 20, 2016 at 2:32 pm

  18. Thanks as always Enigma.

    Looking at the figures you gave, that figure is what we call a stagnant outcome as even though it did increase, it didn’t do so in a meaningful way hence the 5.1% figure.

    doug

    April 20, 2016 at 4:56 pm


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