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Iain Duncan Smith: Parting is such Sweet Sorrow.

David Cameron says he is “puzzled and disappointed” after Iain Duncan Smith quit as work and pensions secretary.

Mr Duncan Smith said the latest planned cuts to disability benefits were “not defensible” in a Budget that benefited higher-earning taxpayers.

In response, Mr Cameron said they had “collectively agreed” on the proposals, before deciding on Friday to have a rethink to “get these policies right”.

Stephen Crabb has been named as Mr Duncan Smith’s replacement.


Iain Duncan Smith has lost his latest attempt to keep potentially damning Universal Credit documents secret.

There is a good chance the reports will reveal his department were misleading the public about the progress of the programme.

Reported Vox Political yesterday.

The background is given by on Politics co uk.

So just what does IDS have to hide? We can only guess but there is a good chance the reports will reveal his department were misleading the public about the progress of the programme. To find out a bit more it’s worth looking back to what was happening around the time the FOI requests were being dealt with.

In November 2011 the DWP issued a press release announcing that over one million people would be claiming universal credit by April 2014, with 12 million claimants moving onto the new benefit by 2017.

The following year, the DWP’s Annual Report and Accounts showed that the programme had progressed well. Then in September of that year, the BBC carried a story on concerns raised by the Local Government Association about the implementation of Universal Credit and in particular about the IT system. A spokesperson for the DWP responded at the time by saying: “Universal Credit is on track and on budget. To suggest anything else is incorrect.”


Speaking to Politics.co.uk after the ruling, Collins said he believed disclosure of the papers would have undermined the information coming out of the DWP at the time: “It’s frightening that government departments can spend hundreds of millions of pounds on IT projects such as Universal Credit with the true facts staying hidden for years, because these internal assessment reports are always kept confidential”

Slater says he first requested the documents because the timescales given by the DWP on Universal Credit were laughable. Although he is happy with the tribunal’s latest ruling he believes there is every chance IDS will appeal the decision once again.

The DWP say they are carefully considering the Tribunal’s decision. A spokesperson said:

“Universal Credit is rolling out successfully and is available in 95% of jobcentres with over 32,000 people making a claim to it last month.”

Whether they decide to appeal again remains to be seen. One thing is for certain though, the more IDS fights publication, the more it looks as if he has something to hide.

Stephen Bush in the New Statesman comments,

No, Iain Duncan Smith’s resignation isn’t part of a cunning plan.

As exciting as it would be for people like me, Iain Duncan Smith simply isn’t clever enough to have thought this many moves ahead. This is the man who is the chief architect of the universal credit, which was supposed to have been rolled out in October 2013, and in March 2016 has been rolled out to the grand total of 141,100 people – and by “people”, I mean “single men without dependents”, the only group whose claims are simple enough to be processed on the universal credit.

This is the Secretary of State who has wasted so much money on failed policies that the government is able to claim – entirely truthfully – that the money being spent on disabled people has gone up, even though not a single penny has gone to disabled people while countless billions have been lavished on IT systems that don’t work and a benefit reform that will never be implemented.

This is the man who as leader of the Conservative party mistook a spoof poster – “It rains less under a Conservative government” – for the real thing, happily posing underneath it. This is the man who Osborne described as “not clever enough” after watching him present on his welfare reforms in the last government. This is the man who, despite having been the longest-serving Secretary of State at the Department for Welfare and Pensions, leaves it having implemented nothing and done nothing.

It is certainly true that this is a man who has been waiting for an excuse to walk out of the government since the Autumn Statement in November 2015, when Osborne moved the tax credit cuts into the universal credit rollout – a sign that, as far as the Treasury was concerned, the universal credit will never happen. As civil servants in the DWP have observed, Duncan Smith has been a broken figure since that setback, one that would have been obvious if he had had any grip on his department.

Resigning as part of a plan? As exciting as that would be, Iain Duncan Smith simply isn’t good enough for that.

Stephen Crabb

Crabb was trustee of Pembrokeshire foodbank charity, Pembrokeshire Action To Combat Hardship, based in his parliamentary constituency.In early 2014 This connection to PATCH caused some controversy and raised questions over Crabb’s sincerity towards foodbank users when on 18 December 2013, at a parliamentary debate he voted against the publication of a 2013 investigation into foodbanks use and UK hunger and in the same motion voted against the call for the government to implement measures to reduce UK foodbank dependency.


Written by Andrew Coates

March 19, 2016 at 10:33 am

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  1. It seems unlikely that IDS has has a sudden conversion to compassion for the unemployed and disabled. I note many people think this has rather more to do with his role in the EU campaign.
    Nevertheless, good news. It is only a pity that so many people failed by the welfare system have not lived to see it.

    Jeff Smith

    March 19, 2016 at 10:52 am

  2. Ding-dong the wicked old ***t is dead!

    jj joop

    March 19, 2016 at 11:02 am

  3. So Iain Duncan Smith wasn’t the bad guy after all: “It was Big Bad George the pasty-faced fairy at the bottom of the garden who made me do it”. A plot twist to end all plot twists.

    Ivy Moxam

    March 19, 2016 at 11:06 am

    • So it’s all George’s fault. That’s right up there with “The dog ate my homework”

      jj joop

      March 19, 2016 at 11:42 am

  4. Andrew Coates

    March 19, 2016 at 11:26 am

    • He hates the sick because they’re costing too much money to maintain. They really should just do the decent thing – and die!

      jj joop

      March 19, 2016 at 11:43 am

  5. More just out on the story run above – about the real reasons for IDS slinking away:

    Iain Duncan Smith lost court battle to suppress publication of potentially embarrassing DWP memos, days before resignation.

    The Conservative politician announced his shock resignation last night, citing concerns over disability benefit cuts. However, a legal battle earlier this week has been cited as another possible explaination.

    However, a legal decision this week has come to light which may also have had some bearing on the Minister’s decision. The DWP has been ordered to release potentially damaging documents after a four year long legal battle to suppress them.


    Andrew Coates

    March 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    • Can’t wait to see those documents, should be a real eye opener, maybe there is something in there that say’s ministers and the DWP have been acting illegally?

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      March 19, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    • Andrew

      Good spot – but it won’t just be this. It never is when the dam breaks, what other thing(s) have been perculating beneath the surface that we are not directly aware of – I know of one (myself – unable to speak about it at moment) but I am sure there are many others.

      a] was a risk assement on the impact of tax credits carried out?
      b] was a risk assement on the impact of disability benefits carried out?
      c] release of details about benefit deaths?
      d] true impact of changes post 16Apr16 of Tax Credits?

      What’s the bet that there’s more damning stuff to emerge?


      March 19, 2016 at 2:00 pm

    • Yes, whatever reason(s) IDS resigned, don’t forget the following :














      ESA CUTS

      BULLYING TORY MP NADINE DORRIES NOT TO VOTE AGAINST ESA CUTS (before he resigned over them, apparently)!


      March 19, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    • Iain Duncan Smith – Champion of the Disabled and Defender of the Poor, My Arse!

      Jim Royle

      March 19, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    • “Appeals were submitted to the Information Commission who decided that all but one of the requested reports should be published”

      The one that got away, but which one is it. the one which many of us know about but then was this one ever written about.


      March 19, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    • IDS to speak on Andrew Marr show

      Will Iain Duncan Smith plunge the knife in further? He’s appearing on the Andrew Marr show on Sunday morning – 9am


      March 19, 2016 at 4:11 pm

      • enigma

        School Yard Fight!

        Yep – but he will concentrate on Europe, a few asides on how he “Believes” CamPiggie & GidIdiot have undermined his brilliant planned reforms and its all their fault Teacher….


        March 19, 2016 at 4:26 pm

      • Yes the blame game.


        March 19, 2016 at 4:33 pm

  6. Please all of you don’t forget, he has only resigned his position as Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, he still retains his job as an MP for his local constituency, he still gets paid a disgusting amount of money for that. Somewhere in the region of 68 thousand pounds per year.

    This is hardly a no win situation for IDS.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 19, 2016 at 2:33 pm

  7. As the dolphins said on Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy – “So Long – and Thanks For The Fish”

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 19, 2016 at 3:20 pm

  8. Now IDS is out of the way, a question occurs, what’s it going to take to blow IDS’s Universal Credit out of the water?

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 19, 2016 at 3:54 pm

  9. Andrew Coates

    March 19, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    • Not much of a difference then.


      March 19, 2016 at 4:26 pm

      • enigma

        Nope – will just appear to be more reasonable – but it will be the same old same old. Just a different face to the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse.


        March 19, 2016 at 4:28 pm

      • Not good news at all especially for all those who thought it couldn’t be a similar kind of person.


        March 19, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      • Cuts: And so it continues…

        Last Sentance from [The Tory tensions over benefits] “Duncan Smith and Osborne’s uneasy relationship”

        “Mr Crabb has the opportunity to change the tone on welfare even though the reforms will continue.”

        Nuff said


        March 19, 2016 at 5:36 pm

  10. Recap:

    Andrew Coates

    March 19, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    • Wait a while, there will be a new one – so many ways Stephen Crabb ……………..


      March 19, 2016 at 5:08 pm

  11. It was only a matter of time before he went.

    I have to say I do wonder whether these big IT projects are a front to some top secret arms deal – millions wasted without any accountability… does the money really transfer from the taxpayer and line some wealthy persons’ pockets in the form of bumper profits, or has it been unofficially accounted for propping up the defence budget (for example)?

    Universal Jobmatch

    March 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    • Kind of like how the security services use Premium Bond ‘prizes’ to pay spies… 😉


      March 20, 2016 at 1:43 pm

  12. Andrew Marr show:

    So in the words of the ‘great’ man himself

    [remembering of course being responsible for 6 years of unrelenting cuts – with a smile, not caring for the misery caused by sanctions]

    Making point that Benefit cap lowered
    trying to
    his scheme in lowering benefit payouts [pip et al] didn’t raise it as a problem
    pimping ‘social justice he set up’
    problems on direction and started last week
    one nation even for those who wouldn’t ever vote ConCon
    thought of resigning attack on UC
    running through arbitrary welfare cap
    consultation too narrow ignoring important other impacts
    set policy via media agenda, i.e. PIP, requirement for cuts still sits on books [i.e WILL come in despite what has been announced]
    gov for all the people, all the time – benefit cuts is visibly Unfair as against those who benefit
    discretionary housing increase down to him
    treasury desperate search for savings
    ESA more people in support group – i.e.
    richer people – how perceived – limited attack on working age benefit verse pensions, working age to bear the brunt
    This is all aimed at GidIdiot – something has happened between them, this is his try at derailing his leadership bid
    people on benefits don’t vote for ConCons, therefore should not bear down on them to get cuts exclusively from them. They are less able to absorb these kind of budget cuts.
    No Personal ambition [yeah right]
    Didn’t know about budget changes until media rang him.
    Change way budget decided, implemented
    goes on about care for UK,
    GidIdiot – MAY be a leader, have no view.
    Will not support a leadership contest.

    [Maybe he’s been told UN will place blame entirely on him – he was in charge after all]


    March 20, 2016 at 10:02 am

  13. What on earth has happened to Chris Evans for heaven’s sake. 49?! He looks soooooo old!

    Old Hilda

    March 20, 2016 at 11:21 am

  14. When thieves fall out:

    “The Pensions minister has lashed out at her old boss, Iain Duncan Smith, saying his resignation was intended to inflict “maximum damage” on David Cameron and George Osborne ahead of the EU referendum.

    Baroness Ros Altmann, who was made pensions minister after being appointed to the Lords in May, questioned the former Work and Pensions Secretary’s motives for quitting.

    “She also said he had found Mr Duncan Smith “exceptionally difficult to work for”, and claimed he had obstructed her efforts to reform pensions, and silenced her.

    But fellow DWP minister Shailesh Vara said her memory of the events differed from Baroness Altmann’s…..”


    Andrew Coates

    March 20, 2016 at 11:36 am

    • As they say in the Army when things fall apart:

      Order, counter-order, disorder!


      March 20, 2016 at 11:47 am

  15. Duncan Smith warns government risks ‘dividing’ society. it wasn’t me.



    March 20, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    • As if there isn’t a divide already & has been for years.


      March 20, 2016 at 12:53 pm

  16. enigma

    March 20, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    • Gazza

      March 20, 2016 at 1:15 pm

      • Number 10’s statement on IDS interview

        We are sorry to see Iain Duncan Smith go, but we are a ‘One Nation’ government determined to continue helping everyone in our society have more security and opportunity, including the most disadvantaged.

        That means we will deliver our manifesto commitments to make the welfare system fairer, cut taxes and ensure we have a stable economy by controlling welfare spending and living within our means.

        Under this government there are over two million more people with the security of a job and a pay packet, almost half a million fewer children growing up in a home where nobody works and over a million fewer people trapped on out-of-work benefits.

        But there is more to do. That’s why we will stick to our plan so we finish the job of delivering stability, security and opportunity for working people in our country.


        March 20, 2016 at 1:28 pm

      • Gazza, it sure was a performance, trying to be a different person.


        March 20, 2016 at 1:36 pm

      • enigma

        it was a thing to behold. It’s a Pity though as we all know it’s him acting like he cares for the peon’s. This is all and I mean all about him going for GidIdiot.


        March 20, 2016 at 1:54 pm

  17. What’s the odds on a Early General Election?


    March 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    • They are in a bit of a mess so just maybe.

      Tories in civil war as Duncan Smith attacks austerity programme

      The civil war engulfing the Conservatives has intensified after Iain Duncan Smith launched an attack on the government’s austerity programme for balancing the books on the backs of the poor and vulnerable.



      March 20, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    • Osborne’s leadership hopes ‘damaged’

      Peter Lilley, the Conservative MP and former social security secretary, is damning on George Osborne’s political future, calling him “not necessarily the best person” to be prime miniter.


      March 20, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    • William Hill say that bets on Osborne to succeed Cameron have been conspicuously rare since Wednesday’s budget. As Gordon Brown joked: “There are two kinds of chancellor. Those whose careers end in failure and those who get out in time.”


      March 20, 2016 at 2:51 pm

  18. Whats going to happen to Universal credit?,checking through a lot of people cannot claim this benefit.It suggests that this system is unable to cope with any external demands.I was told that if Jobseekers Allowance ends I would have to claim it but cannot on checking,this tells Jobcentre staff don’t even know what they are talking about trained or even bothered to look,perhaps its just as well they don’t offer any help anymore.

    The confusion remains would those ever be able to claim Universal Credit in the future or what is going to happen?

    Duncan Smith has left a complete shambles in the DWP.


    March 20, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    • You will find out what a complete shambles it is in next week when the reports on UC are released or they will try and cover it up with more bad news again. Everything IDS touches turns to shit so we have a very very good chance this will. He will then become the fall guy.

      Oops he has already gone! It’s a get out before you are pushed out situation. He has never given a shit about anybody but himself so why would we believe him now.


      March 20, 2016 at 3:28 pm

  19. What the Number 10 statement really means from TheGuardian:

    ConfuciusHeSay 22m ago

    … The pre-amended No. 10 statement:

    We are e̶c̶s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ (sorry) to see t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶d̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶t̶a̶r̶d̶ Iain Duncan Smith go, but we are a ‘One ’p̶e̶r̶c̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶e̶a̶l̶t̶h̶y̶ Nation’ government determined to continue helping t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶i̶c̶h̶ (everyone) in our society have more m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ (security and opportunity) a̶n̶d̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶ (including) the most disadvantaged.

    That means we will deliver our manifesto commitments to make the welfare system n̶o̶n̶-̶e̶x̶i̶s̶t̶e̶n̶t̶ (fairer), cut taxes and ensure we have a c̶a̶s̶i̶n̶o̶ (stable) economy by w̶i̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ (controlling) welfare spending and living o̶f̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶o̶r̶ (within our means).

    (̶i̶n̶s̶e̶r̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶c̶h̶i̶e̶v̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶, ̶-̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶i̶n̶v̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶b̶i̶t̶)̶ Under this government there are over two million more people with the security of a job and a pay packet, almost half a million fewer children growing up in a home where nobody works and over a million fewer people trapped on out-of-work benefits.

    But there a̶r̶e̶ (is) more p̶o̶o̶r̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ to do. That’s why we will stick i̶t̶ to t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶o̶r̶ (our plan) so we finish t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ (the job of delivering stability, security and opportunity for working people in our country).


    March 20, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    • That Downing Street statement in full:

      We are sorry to see Iain Duncan Smith go (the conniving bastard), but we are a One Nation government (and we wrote in capitals, so we really mean it!) determined to continue helping everyone in (the City of London to buy) our society (and thus) have more security and opportunity (than they would do just relying on Russian and Chinese dirty money), including the most disadvantaged (such as those poor brokers on less than 100K)

      That means we will deliver our Manifesto commitments to make the welfare system fairer (for us), cut taxes (for us) and ensure we have a stable economy (for us) by controlling welfare spending (for you) and living within our means (for you).

      Under this government there are over two million more people with the security of a job and a pay packet (as long as they don’t mind a zero hours contract or self-employment with no protection), almost half a million fewer children growing up (do we mean this?) in a home where nobody works (oh – sorry!) and over a million fewer people trapped on out-of-work benefits (who can instead give their housing benefits to wealthy private landlords)

      But there is more to do (absolutely – I mean, only £9,000 for an Oxbridge degree – not for long!). That’s why we will stick to our plan so we finish the job of delivering stability (of QE handouts for us), security (for the City of London) and opportunity for working people in our country (to work until you’re 70 on reduced salaries with little chance of decent pension or a home of your own)


      March 20, 2016 at 5:57 pm

  20. Well, in light of Iain Duncan Smith’s stellar performance on the Andrew Marr show we need some ‘volunteers’ to go around daubing over all those “IAIN DUNCAN SMITH – MURDERER!!” pieces of artwork which adorn our public buildings and spaces to transform them into “IAIN DUNCAN SMITH – REALLY NICE GUY!!”

    The Graffiti Artists

    March 20, 2016 at 3:46 pm

  21. Iain Duncan Smith Abandoned His Own Sinking Ship

    Sue Jones says Iain Duncan Smith’s own incompetence and catalogue of failures left him with no option but to resign.



    March 20, 2016 at 11:01 pm

  22. “The terrible immoralities are the cunning ones hiding behind masks of morality, such as exploiting people while pretending to help them.”

    – Vernon Howard

    Vernon Howard

    March 21, 2016 at 10:07 am

  23. There was some daft commentator on the radio who said: “Iain Duncan Smith is in essence a decent man. He came into politics to do the right thing and most of all to help the poor. He is very big on social justice; he even set up a Centre of Social Justice to further those aims” 😀


    March 21, 2016 at 10:14 am

    • They also said that the original intent of Universal Credit was to make the poor better off 😀 but for some reason or other it wasn’t quite padding out that way 😀


      March 21, 2016 at 10:17 am

  24. David Cameron will defend his record later after Iain Duncan Smith resigned as work and pensions secretary and condemned cuts to disability benefits.

    Mr Duncan Smith quit on Friday and said the government had focused benefit cuts on people who do not vote Conservative. He warned it risked dividing society.

    But the PM will tell MPs he believes in “a modern, compassionate Conservatism”.

    Number 10 has strongly denied reports of a rift between David Cameron and his chancellor following the resignation.

    Meanwhile, Mr Duncan Smith’s replacement, Stephen Crabb, will tell the Commons on Monday that the proposed changes to disability benefits – known as Personal Independence Payments (PIP) – have been abandoned.



    March 21, 2016 at 10:16 am

  25. Still Feeling The Pinch

    “Tory replacement axeman Stephen Crabb is IDS with a beard and full head of hair.” – Daily Mirror.



    March 21, 2016 at 10:17 am

  26. Meanwhile, a Tory MP – who supported vicious benefit cuts AND claimed a whopping £12,000 himself for gardening expenses – calls in police after receiving “vicious” threats on Internet.



    March 21, 2016 at 10:31 am

    • Keep that one quiet please that £12,000 is my fiddle work.


      March 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm

  27. David Cameron is to face his MPs for the first time since Iain Duncan Smith’s resignation on Friday over welfare cuts, as George Osborne came under fire for having “disappeared” since his budget started unravelling.



    March 21, 2016 at 11:30 am

  28. What’s going to happen to UC?, it continues.

    Every jobcentre in Wales to offer Universal Credit from today.



    March 21, 2016 at 2:16 pm

  29. The Social Mobility and Child Poverty Commission response to the Select Committee Inquiry into Apprenticeships.

    The Social Mobility and Child Poverty Commission today (21 March 2016) warned that the government’s drive on apprenticeships is failing to deliver for young people. In a report submitted to the Commons Select Committee on Education, Skills and the Economy’s inquiry into apprenticeships, the Commission pointed out that almost all the recent increase in apprenticeship starts related to people over the age of 24, with the number of young people starting apprenticeships showing little change since 2010.

    It also noted that, unlike academic courses, youth apprenticeships typically do not represent a step up: most A-level-age apprentices do GCSE-level apprenticeships and almost all (97%) university-age apprentices do apprenticeships at A-level equivalent or lower. The Commission also highlighted the fact that most youth apprenticeships are in sectors such as health and social care, business administration, and hospitality and catering, which are characterized by low pay and poor progression.



    March 21, 2016 at 2:20 pm

  30. ‘Fairness’ of 2016 budget under scrutiny.

    To analyse the impact of the Budget on different income groups, economists turn to what is called a “distributional analysis” which aggregates the effect of tax and benefit changes.

    By way of such an analysis, the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) says that last week’s Budget left the richest 10% of households about £260 a year better off.

    The poorest 10%, the IFS says, were no better off and could actually see their net income fall slightly as benefits are reduced.



    March 21, 2016 at 2:30 pm

  31. Andrew Coates

    March 21, 2016 at 4:28 pm

  32. OT: Living Wage rubbish [as if we didn’t know this would happen]

    National Living Wage: 1.7m self-employed to miss out – think tank

    “More than 1.7m self-employed workers will earn below the new National Living Wage when it comes into force in April, a think tank has warned.

    The number will rise to 1.9 million by 2020, according to the Social Market Foundation’s (SMF) research.”


    Contractors ‘ignored’
    The SMF said its research – funded by the charity Trust for London – also raised concerns that the introduction of the higher National Living Wage provided an “added incentive” for firms to contract out services to self-employed people rather than take them on directly.

    “Policies such as the National Living Wage make it artificially more attractive for firms to engage contractors rather than employees, and ignore a large section of low paid workers,” said SMF chief economist Nida Broughton.


    It found that 49% of UK self employed people were low paid on an hourly basis – defined as earning two-thirds or less than employees – compared with 22% of employed people.

    It found the problem was particularly acute in London, where 18% of workers are self-employed.”


    March 21, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    • Yep, many people will be laid off because of this, for the over 25’s it will be even more difficult to get a job because those of under that age will be taken on, also lets not forget more employers will take on the unemployed, there will be a lot more people working for their benefits.


      March 21, 2016 at 7:12 pm

      • Almost forgot, Apprenticeships.


        March 21, 2016 at 7:36 pm

  33. Cold homes caused 9,000 deaths last winter, study suggests. there will be many more. because of the nmw.

    Dr Jessica Allen, whose team conducted the study, told BBC Panorama: “This was not the coldest winter on record. People dying from cold homes are a result of high fuel prices, low incomes and poor insulation. It’s entirely preventable.



    March 21, 2016 at 8:08 pm

  34. Ministers say they will not target other benefits to pay for axing cuts to disability payments as they seek to heal a rift over last week’s Budget.

    Welfare Secretary Stephen Crabb made the pledge in his first speech since replacing Iain Duncan Smith, who quit with an attack on the planned cuts.

    Earlier, the PM defended Chancellor George Osborne, whose Budget is missing £4.4bn earmarked for the now-axed cuts.

    Labour said Mr Osborne should resign and the Budget should be withdrawn.

    Both David Cameron and Mr Crabb praised Mr Duncan Smith, who said the government risked dividing society with politically-motivated spending cuts.

    The new work and pensions secretary confirmed the changes to Personal Independence Payments had been cancelled and told MPs: “After discussing this issue over the weekend with the prime minister and the chancellor we have no further plans to make welfare savings beyond the very substantial savings legislated for by Parliament two weeks ago.”

    A Downing Street spokesman said the government would still deliver on its commitment to save £12bn from welfare by the end of the Parliament in 2020.



    March 21, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    • Yeah, Right

      Does this mean that the changes planned for 16Apr16 won’t kick in, giving them the savings they want on Tax Credits/UC & I suspect more as there are no doubt a few hidden little traps for the unsuspecting hidden in there?

      Utter claptrap – or more accurately pigs wallop, as its coming out of PigCammi’s mouth


      March 21, 2016 at 9:32 pm

  35. OT: Jobcentres in Doc Surgeries

    h/t to Refutted



    “Last year, concerns were raised in the media when the Government stated its intention to co-locate therapists in job centres. These concerns were principally that:

    The underpinning rationale was not for improving health, but rather for ideological purposes
    Employment was being considered as a clinical outcome
    People would be coerced into therapy or face sanctions on their unemployment benefit payments
    People would have to access therapy in an unsuitable therapeutic environment
    There would be a lack of privacy in a jobcentre environment.


    We have relayed the above concerns and more to officials based at the Department and have additionally met with staff working in a jobcentre evaluating the feasibility of one of the proposed Government approaches. We have asked many questions, drilling down into the minutiae of the Government plans, and advocating above all that:

    Plans must be aimed at improving mental health and wellbeing rather than as a means of getting people back to work
    There must be no conditionality or associated sanction on unemployment benefit
    Clients must be treated compassionately
    Clients must have their privacy respected
    Client choice must be central to the method and location of delivery of therapy.
    We have been consistently advised that the Government has:

    Ruled out any use of coercion or sanctions in relation to therapy
    Opted to pursue a small-scale co-location feasibility trial which, importantly, will thoroughly evaluate privacy issues and mental health outcomes comparative to those achieved by therapy in other settings.

    In addition, following our discussions, the Government has agreed to also trial a number of alternatives, such as providing jobcentre clients with access to therapy in alternative community based, non-job centre settings.

    We are acutely aware of the sensitivities around this issue and will continue to engage with the Joint Work and Health Unit to critically examine their ongoing work, to ensure that the full range of potential co-location options trialled are in the best interests of clients, and that the evaluations will be thorough and robust enough to pick up on all of our areas of concern. We are particularly aware that for the Government plans to be ethical, employment must at no time be seen as a clinical outcome, staff must not be involved in coercion, and client attendance must not be mandatory.”


    March 21, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    • Many more changes.

      The Future of Jobcentre Plus inquiry.

      Scope of the inquiry

      The Committee invites written submissions addressing one or more of the following areas:

      The likely effects of the planned changes on claimants, including on the quality of services offered to them and the implications in relation to digital inclusion
      The potential implications for JCP, including in relation to:
      JCP’s capability to provide new, tailored services for particular groups of people, including people with mental health problems
      Opportunities afforded by coordination with other local services, including the NHS and schools
      The extent to which reforms will require cultural change within JCP, and the DWP’s capability successfully to foster this change
      The opportunities and challenges for JCP presented by greater devolution of employment services to regional and national governments.



      March 22, 2016 at 8:38 am

      • It certainly looks like an attempt to make the JCP part of the health service for people with mental health issues.

        Andrew Coates

        March 22, 2016 at 11:22 am

      • Another inquiry.

        In-work progression in Universal Credit inquiry.

        Scope of the inquiry

        Written submissions are invited addressing the following points:

        DWP’s plans for in-work progression pilots in 2015/16, and how they should be evaluated
        Which organisations are best-placed to deliver the in-work service for DWP e.g. Jobcentre Plus/other providers from the private, public or voluntary sectors?
        What should in-work progression support entail and how should it be delivered (e.g. regularity and nature of contact with claimants)?
        Which groups of claimants should be included and which should be exempt?
        How should employers be encouraged to facilitate progression?
        In what circumstances would it be appropriate to sanction a Universal Credit claimant who is in work?
        Is there any UK or international evidence on effective ways of encouraging in-work progression?



        March 22, 2016 at 12:14 pm

  36. ol are self-confessed knobhead Dominic fucking Littlecock hunting down the “criminal scum who made of with the Salvation Army’s pub charity collection box” which “could contain up to 50 quid” What a fucking dick!

    Caught Red Handed

    March 22, 2016 at 9:36 am

  37. To-tip: for jobseekers when filling in the “equal opportunities questionnaire” regardless of your actual beliefs/preferences is to tick “gay/bisexual”, “muslim”, “Irish”, “one-legged”. On the very unlikely off-chance that you don’t get the job it opens the door to a claim for discrimination. Of course it is well known that employers discriminate against the unemployed but you can’t prove that. You see, jobseekers complain about being discriminated against on sexual/religious grounds but what is to stop you being a gay/bi-sexual Muslim? Nothing! Just play the game!

    Jobseekers Free Tips

    March 22, 2016 at 9:49 am

  38. Tobanem

    March 22, 2016 at 1:06 pm


    “Don’t cuddle your kids or your benefits will be stopped.” Frail father – with two years left to live – found fit for work after display of compassion.



    March 22, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    • “Two years left to live” that says it all Tobanem,


      March 22, 2016 at 3:42 pm

      • Yes, but that was before the decision to cut his benefits. The shock will shorten his life span even more.


        March 22, 2016 at 4:00 pm

  40. Have a look at this link which vividly displays 43 captioned photographs of various Tories and their mean-spirited stance on benefit cuts. Too good to miss.

    (One Tory MP among them voted for the cuts but claimed £5,000 to heat his STABLES)!:



    March 22, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    • That is a really good link: the tip of the iceberg no doubt.

      The words, lower than vermin, come to mind.

      Andrew Coates

      March 22, 2016 at 6:27 pm

  41. Welfare Reform Act 2012 regulations.

    updated: 22 March 2016,

    Universal Credit, Jobseeker’s Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance.
    Personal Independence Payment, Disability Living Allowance, Attendance Allowance and Carer’s Allowance.
    Housing costs.
    Council Tax Benefit.
    Fraud and overpayments.
    Sharing information with other organisations.



    March 22, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    • The Universal Credit, Personal Independence Payment, Jobseeker’s Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance Decisions and Appeals.

      update existing provisions on how decisions are made, including a new requirement for decisions to be reconsidered before claimants can appeal.


      March 22, 2016 at 6:30 pm

      • The DWP has been given £22 million to recruit presenting officers in an effort to reduce the number of claimants winning their personal independence payment (PIP) and employment and support allowance (ESA) appeals.

        The Office for Budget Responsibility’s (OBR) “Economic and Fiscal Outlook” document lists the following amount:

        “£22 million to DWP to recruit presenting officers across 2016-17 to 2017-18 to support the department in personal independent payments and employment and support allowance tribunals.”

        Buzzfeed is reporting that the money will pay for 180 new presenting officers.



        March 23, 2016 at 11:23 am

  42. OT: DWP Premium Rate Number ploy

    h/t to refuted


    Letter INSTRUCTING claimant to urgently ring [why do I think/know this will be YUGGE concerning UC claims…].

    Solution? Pop in, and ask for letter stating MUST reply by phone, and will reimburse costs.

    A reply indicating its a computer fault is False and clearly maladministration due to the fact its been going on for the past year or so and people have complained since it started which means its deliberate.

    This is taking the Adam Smith Institute capitalist Ideology to extermes – give as little to claimants, then require them to use what little they have to call a premium number for capitalist gain.


    March 22, 2016 at 6:53 pm

  43. As an advanced driving instructor who also trains the Police and Security services I often see a lot of comments on these blogs along the lines of: “I only the jobcentre would give me driving lessons I could get a job”. Aside from the fact that most jobseekers would probably give up mid-lesson what you have to understand is that passing a driving test only means that you are considered safe to LEARN on your own. This is a common mistake, particularly teenagers make. You are not going to be particularly appealing to a an employer the minute they suss that you have no post-test experience (you can’t even go a motorway) as an L-driver. So you have to be prepared to sink many more ££s post-test. You are really talking in the region of £thousands to reach any degree of competency. And you NEVER stop learning…


    March 23, 2016 at 10:02 am

  44. KWU

    March 23, 2016 at 10:10 am

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