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Disability Cuts to Fund Tax Reductions for the Middle Classes.

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Cutting Personal Independent Payments to reduce Disabled Burden on Wealthy.

George Osborne defends using disability cuts to fund middle-class tax break

From Enigma.

Budget 2016: George Osborne’s £1bn Disabled Cut To Fund ‘Middle Class Tax Giveaway’ Riles Campaigners

George Osborne‘s reported plan to use a billion pound benefit cut for disabled people to fund tax giveaways for the middle-class has sparked outrage from campaigners.

The Chancellor is allegedly preparing to use the £130 slashed from 600,000 disabled people’s PIP – Personal Independence Payment – support to raise the threshold at which people start paying 40p tax.

Claims about the policy, which could be revealed at the Spring Budget next Wednesday, were attributed to Westminster “insiders” in today’s Telegraph.

But fears are already mounting, with one senior Labour frontbencher saying the move would be “obscene”.

Owen Smith, shadow work and pensions secretary, posted on Twitter: “Already wicked to take another £1.2 billion from disabled, but truly obscene if switched for tax cuts at the Budget.”

Huffington Post.

One can only assume that in line with policies to stop the feckless poor from breeding – cuts in family allowances – this is  part of a plan to stop people who are disabled taking up  PIPs and no doubt to reduce the numbers of the disabled.

The Observer analyses the figures,

Research conducted by the foundation for the Observer has established that the cuts – including moves to increase the threshold at which the 40p rate of tax becomes payable from £42,385 to £50,000 by 2020 – will cost £2bn over the next two years, with 85% of the windfall going to the richest half of households.

Torsten Bell, director of Resolution Foundation, said: “Keeping on track with those commitments would mean finding £2bn over the next two years and would overwhelmingly benefit richer households.

“The priority should be supporting low- and middle-income families, instead of going down this route of expensive and poorly targeted tax cuts.”

Osborne also plans to increase the personal tax-free allowance, which is due to rise to £10,800 from April and £11,000 in 2017, reaching £12,500 by 2020. But 4.6 million low-paid workers will gain nothing from these cuts, because they do not earn enough to pay tax. Resolution Foundation says low-income families on universal credit will have two-thirds of any tax cut clawed back through reduced benefits.

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Written by Andrew Coates

March 13, 2016 at 12:56 pm

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  1. Ah, is that a flying DWP Pig called “No one suffers under UC” flying by?

    H/T Refuted:

    http://www.welfareweekly.com/universal-credit-cuts-will-leave-some-working-people-worse-off-dwp-admits/

    “Despite Ian Duncan Smith’s persistent claims that “nobody loses a penny” under his flagship Universal Credit reform, the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) has contradicted him and admitted that some claimants will be worse off.

    From 11 April 2016 the range of work allowances available to Universal Credit claimants is to be reduced from seven to two. Some other rates will also be reduced, while others will be removed completely. Consequently, a work allowance will only be made available where the claimant or joint claimant has a child dependent and/or where a qualifying young person has limited capability to work (LCW).

    On page three, the memo uses a case study – “Bella” – a 26-year-old shop worker who is single and lives with her parents, the Daily Mirror reports. Bella, a fictional character, works eight hours a week and earns £50 – less than the national minimum wage of £6.70 an hour. The minimum wage is rising to £7.20 for employees aged over 25 from 1 April. In the guidance, the DWP admits Bella will see her monthly Universal Credit payments reduced from £253.70 to £181.55 – a loss of £72.15, or £865.80 a year.

    There is no transitional protection for Universal Credit claimants whose work allowance is reduced or removed.

    There seems to be a pattern emerging. Whenever the word “reform” is used by the Conservative government, it is always as a euphemism for “cuts to lifeline support.” ”

    ME: “Your Honor, the prosecution rests on the Charge of Blatant Lying by bad actors – our so called betters”

    Note: I would point out that this is only what we know now. Who knows what new wrinkle will emerge in the future?

    Gazza

    March 13, 2016 at 2:59 pm

  2. Its really an expansion of this makers and takers which puts those with the most barriers in life in a worse position.The Tories are using the disabled as a punchbag,this group are losing their jobs being discriminated against and treated with hostility as if faking what they have had all their lives.

    Ken

    March 13, 2016 at 4:29 pm

  3. Many in this & other society’s don’t like the reality of disabled human beings,(of course those people wouldn’t call them human beings) as we can all see what is happening to many disabled people.

    enigma

    March 13, 2016 at 6:10 pm

  4. Two hundred thousand disabled people will each lose almost £3,000 a year as a result of sweeping cuts to disability benefits, according to Labour analysis.

    A further 400,000 will see their weekly payment fall from the enhanced £82 to the standard £55 – costing them over £1,400 a year.

    The reform will mean that from next year people will only be awarded one point, instead of two, if they need aid to help them use the toilet or get dressed – resulting in lower or no payments.

    Field told the Guardian that he had grave concerns about the PIP system, after constituents told him they were being awarded zero points, then having the decision overturned on appeal.

    Phil Reynolds, policy and campaigns adviser at Parkinson’s UK, said: “This is a devastating step backwards for people with Parkinson’s. Parkinson’s impacts on every aspect of a person’s life and the government’s announcement that it will cut points in this way is absolutely senseless.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/mar/13/cuts-will-see-200000-disabled-people-lose-3000-a-year

    enigma

    March 13, 2016 at 8:05 pm

  5. Blind caller blasts Iain Duncan Smith welfare reforms! with George Galloway

    ken

    March 13, 2016 at 9:55 pm

  6. David Cameron offers the low paid £1,200 for FREE if they can show they save £50 a month – but Labour claim it was their idea

    PM Today unveiled plans to hand up to 3.5 million of Britain’s lowest paid workers up to £1,200 extra in their savings accounts.

    In return for showing they have saved £50 every month for up to four years, the extra cash will be available to anyone in work and on universal credit or working tax credit.

    The plan is intended to encourage a savings pot of £3,600 after four years, including the Government bonus.

    But Labour today claimed they announced an identical policy to the new ‘Help to Save’ scheme in 2010, only to be told by George Osborne it was unaffordable.

    Shadow work and pensions secretary Owen Smith said the policy raid was like ‘stealing someone’s car and offering them a lift to the bus stop’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3491301/David-Cameron-offers-low-paid-1-200-FREE-save-50-month-Labour-claim-idea.html

    enigma

    March 14, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    • Cant you just smell the rotten political egg here people ?

      (READ THIS BEFORE YOU CONSIDER PARTICIPATING IN THIS GET £1200 FREE CRAP)

      We already know £6.70 an hour is going up to £7.20 an hour, we also know you can as of April the 5th earn £11’000 per annum before tax gets deducted.

      So for a single person working a 37 hour week on the new living allowance, after tax and insurance (post April 2016) will only actually make 0.32p an hour extra so over the week around £12.

      Now 12 times 52 weeks means a gain of £624 per annum.

      Well with this firmly planted in your minds now picture what government is asking low earners which is,

      ” we want you to save £600 per annum”, which in layman terms is, ” despite a hike in pay per hour, despite raising the taxable allowance to £11.000 that you infact have only benefited by £24 per annum meaning you ONLY MAKE AN EXTRA 0.46p A WEEK or if you like, £0.012p PER HOUR”.

      WE KNOW, the whole point of the pay increase and change to tax allowance is so low earners can EARN MORE,
      but as you can see if we did accept this free £1,200 offer it would mean giving up on earning 0.32p an hour extra which like current funds will all go on bills and not in a savings account.

      Now where it get interesting is if this single person claims working tax credit where the person has to enter what they earnt the previous tax year (2015 to 2016) to know what they receive this current 2016 year. What they receive is around £22 pounds a week BUT AND THIS IS WHERE ITS IMPORTANT, for the year 2017, your tax credit drops to £0.46 pence per week (DO REMEMBER YOU PAY MORE THAN THIS IN TAXES FOR THE WHOLE YEAR LET ALONE NATIONAL INSURANCE CONTRIBUTIONS).

      NOW EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS THAT THE LIVING WAGE AND TAXABLE ALLOWANCE WE INCREASE IN 2017 meaning you will not be awarded AND WORKING TAX CREDIT.

      FINALLY as you can see you, by next year your tax credits meaning if you times £1144 by 3, you get £3432 or to put it another way, this saving all to get a free £1’200 is merely going to replace the tax credit you NO LONGER RECEIVE. (not saying this is their plan, just throwing it out there in facts and figures).

      Even without what i just said, a person on £7.20 an hour working 37 hours after deductions isnt in any position to save £50 a week when thats all their likely to have to feed,hydrate,cloth and travel expenses after tax, NI, rent,content and phone insurance oh and lets not forget COMMUNITY TAX.

      SO ANYWAY YOU SLICE AND DICE IT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO BELIEVE THIS IS WORTH PUTTING ANY STOCK INTO so i at this juncture WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE EVERYONE TO IGNORE IT AS EVEN A SMALL PARTICIPATION WILL NO DOUBT SEE THIS BECOME A MANDATED NORM I WILL LABEL FOR NOW AS, UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.

      doug

      March 14, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      • A good summary Doug & the reason for it being the plan of unemployment insurance which is the future.

        enigma

        March 14, 2016 at 5:10 pm

      • A long with health insurance.

        enigma

        March 14, 2016 at 5:48 pm

      • Doug

        A bit more on this.

        How much of a savings buffer do people need?

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35801951

        enigma

        March 15, 2016 at 6:08 pm

      • If people want to save join the local credit union.

        What bothers me most about this stupid idea is instead of Labour shooting it down, they are claiming credit for it as it was originally their idea… what they should be saying is it is a stupid idea, they had already thought of but didn’t implement.

        I find it difficult to understand why any worker would want to save £50 per month in addition to a pension.

        It is interesting how they are making work pay by letting people be only 46p better off each week – you can’t even buy a second class stamp with that. Very insightful doug.

        Universal Jobmatch

        March 20, 2016 at 12:13 am

  7. Andrew Coates

    March 14, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    • Why Britain Should Stay in the EU.

      There are just 100 days to go until the UK votes on whether it wants to remain in the EU or leave it – and 100 days to stamp out the myths being propagated by the Leave camp. Here are 19 (there are many more) ranging from the serious to the laughable………………………………

      http://infacts.org/100-days-kill-eu-myths/

      enigma

      March 15, 2016 at 3:36 pm

      • We should leave the EU, what annoys me is false information being put out there…

        UK sends £55 million a day to Brussels
        EU needs us more than we need it
        Over half of UK laws come from EU
        Terrorist sleeper agents will come to UK because we’re in EU
        EU restricts our ability to deport people who are a threat to security
        We can trade freely with EU without accepting free movement
        Britain will be dragged “willy-nilly” into European superstate
        UK is dictated to by Brussels
        EU wants Turkey to become a member in five years
        EU produces 2,500 new regulations each year
        UK is represented in Brussels by “one twenty-eighth of a eurocrat”
        Scrapping EU agricultural policy would “cut food bills by up to 17%”
        EU plans to tax e-cigarettes 57% on top of VAT
        EU is to ban custard creams
        EU won’t let you recycle a teabag
        EU won’t allow children under eight to blow up balloons
        EU is plotting to introduce taxes on emptying dustbins
        EU prevents us re-using empty egg boxes
        EU dictates distance houses must be from heaths to stop cats chasing birds

        We can see, it starts off relatively serious, but despite making up some really stupid ones, didn’t reach the 20 number they hoped for.

        My personal view, is to withdraw from the EU and enter new treaties. I don’t agree with a federal United States of Europe… although arguably some rulings have been for the greater good. Trade, free movement and collaboration is good. Although this is merely theoretical as the Stay campaign will win by a landslide.

        Universal Jobmatch

        March 20, 2016 at 12:30 am

      • The EU doesn’t intend to ban custard creams per se, but it does intend to ban trans-fat, the ones that are implicated in being a cause of heart disease. It is astonishing that products containing trans-fat are still in our food chain, thought they had been eliminated.

        Daily Heil Link

        Gillian McKeek

        March 20, 2016 at 10:26 am

      • “Jacob Rees-Mogg is rallying fellow Eurosceptics against an EU plan to ban trans fats, which improve the taste and shelf-life of processed foods but have also been linked to higher rates of heart disease.

        Mr Rees-Mogg said that if the plan was adopted, it could sound the death knell for products such as breakfast cereals, ice cream, cakes, frozen meals and pizzas.

        ‘I would be very concerned if it meant the end of any of the many excellent foodstuffs which require trans fats to make them taste delicious.’”

        But does Jacob-Rees-Mogg stuff his face with trans-fats any more than Gary Lineker stuffs his face with crisps? 😉

        Gillian McKeek

        March 20, 2016 at 10:29 am

      • This is ONE thing the EU are right about!

        Gillian McKeek

        March 20, 2016 at 10:31 am

  8. A Tory MP has been forced to resign as patron of a Multiple Sclerosis charity after voting to cut disabled people’s benefits by a third.

    Kit Malthouse was told he had “let down” sufferers and was no longer “suitable” to hold the position on Andover MS Society’s board, based in his own constituency, after he backed moves that will see vulnerable sick and disabled people’s support payments slashed by over £1,500 a year.

    The ex-London deputy mayor incensed campaigners by backing cuts to Employment and Support Allowance on what peer Lord Low called a “black day for disabled people”.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/kit-malthouse-told-to-resign-as-ms-charity-patron-after-voting-for-esa-disability-cuts_uk_56e6aef2e4b096ed3adc0d42?utm_hp_ref=uk

    enigma

    March 14, 2016 at 7:07 pm

  9. Budget 2016: Wealth of super rich soars as the worst-off lose out, report says
    Analysis shows richest 1% of Britons have received more than a quarter of the £4trn increase in national wealth since 2000

    In its study of the UK’s growing economic divide, Oxfam said the average wealth of each member of the elite 1 per cent stood at £3.7m in 2015, an increase of £1.5m each. By contrast, just 7 per cent of the increase went to the less-well-off half of the population, comprising around 30 million people. The average wealth of someone in the poorest 10 per cent of society is £1,600, compared with £1,100 in 2000.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/budget-2016-wealth-of-super-rich-soars-as-the-worst-off-lose-out-report-says-a6929341.html

    enigma

    March 14, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    • The trick enigma is don’t get hung up on this difference but more so to put the spot light on the WHY isn’t wealth distribution (trickle effect) occurring and while such is so, should we the taxpayers really be putting even more money in these peoples pockets ?

      doug

      March 15, 2016 at 2:20 pm

  10. Somebody’s doing well:

    ” Tony and Cherie Blair’s property empire worth estimated £27m

    Former prime minister, his wife and children are registered owners of at least 10 houses and 27 flats between them, including several in central London.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/mar/14/tony-cherie-blair-property-empire-worth-estimated-27m-pounds?CMP=share_btn_fb

    Andrew Coates

    March 15, 2016 at 12:14 pm

  11. If a £30 a week cut is supposed to ‘incentivise’ cancer victims back to work why isn’t the dole being cut by the equivalent £30 a week? Do work-shy dolies deserve more money more than the sick and disabled?

    Sickening

    March 15, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    • Its a scandal some GP’s are going along with this.

      She said: ‘When we become ill we often stop doing those things that get us out and about and bring fulfilment to our lives. As a local GP I see and hear this every day and I’m very keen to do more to support my patients’ well-being.

      http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-practice/gp-practices-to-provide-advice-on-job-seeking-in-new-pilot-scheme/20020070.fullarticle

      Following a recent cancer scare where a private company within the NHS phoned through to the surgery telling them I had cancer from a scan which later turned out i didn’t,then told I would only be signed of if it became a problem. its clear the DWP are actively involved in patient care,the doctor let it slip they (DWP) are always changing their advice.

      ken

      March 15, 2016 at 8:56 pm

      • Why not cut out the middle man and save time and money as well by having employers in doctors surgeries. Employers are falling over themselves to employ the sick, disabled and dying don’t you know.

        Another Fine Recession

        March 16, 2016 at 12:11 am

  12. Well its like this divide and conquer troll, oops did i say troll, i meant sickening,

    The powers that be already thought that JSA payments were low enough to create the incentive for some 5 years now and what with being so pleased at that thought the same would work on the disabled. The well but unemployed have already had their benefits cut to the bone or have you been sleeping these last 5 years ?
    So what with Osborne’s plans failing left right and center meant he was inevitably going to come back to welfare, the Tories favorite stomping ground but as we all know, well everyone but you it appears, their was only the vulnerable, families and low earners left and hence the cuts directly effecting them that you now see unfolding before your very eyes.

    Now you can rant the workshy bull if you like but do remember that ministers,the government and even the public think the disabled and ill are just as workshy as the fit and well unemployed so don’t be surprised when it as it already appears to have done gets you no where.

    Well that answers your questions sickening which i suspect you probably don’t favor much so here’s a suggestion,

    United we stand, divided we fall.

    doug

    March 15, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    • There will be more of such..

      JSA – scheme, another not. –
      ESA – + £30, another not –
      JSA – ESA –
      ESA – JSA –
      ESA – PIP –
      PIP – ESA –
      Tax credit –

      enigma

      March 15, 2016 at 5:11 pm

  13. Or this,

    “Tory minister ‘wanted UK pensioners to be low-wage fruit pickers’.”

    “In his book, serialised in the Mail on Sunday, Laws says: “When a colleague suggested the move would be unpopular with farmers, who would no longer find it easy to employ cheap labour for the back-breaking work, defiant Mr Paterson replied: ‘Oh, but I’ve thought of that, I think I have the answer. We’ll try to get more British pensioners picking some of the fruit and vegetables in the fields instead. Of course, getting pensioners to do this work could lead to an increase in farmers’ costs. After all, they may be a bit slower doing the work. I’ve thought of that too. We might arrange to exempt British pensioners from the minimum-wage laws, to allow them to do this work.’”

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/14/tory-minister-wanted-uk-pensioners-to-be-low-wage-fruit-pickers

    Andrew Coates

    March 15, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    • “Does it surprise you, remember these are the party of the rich and we are the peasants that should be grateful for whatever scraps are thrown to us”

      That’s about it..

      A very nice future for us all, sorry I meant the super rich.

      enigma

      March 15, 2016 at 4:56 pm

      • Welcome to the kind of Tory world that exists in most of Suffolk – outside of Ipswich, Lowestoft and Leiston that is.

        Andrew Coates

        March 15, 2016 at 6:15 pm

      • There are many of them in this area too, who think the unemployed weather disabled or not should not be given any benefits, one day in the local food bank, one comes in and tells us this, they then leave. in a hurry.

        enigma

        March 15, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    • A very interesting story .

      doug

      March 15, 2016 at 5:56 pm

  14. MPs have decided to issue a formal summons ordering Sports Direct boss Mike Ashley to give evidence to them about the treatment of his workers.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35811254

    enigma

    March 15, 2016 at 6:10 pm

  15. The Army, here in the South, is taking part in a groundbreaking initiative – to try to help unemployed people find work. They’ve teamed up with the Department for Work and Pensions – to run a scheme called the Armed forces Employability Programme.

    http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/update/2016-03-15/army-helps-unemployed-to-find-work/

    enigma

    March 15, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    • I quite like the sound of that enigma, not sure if it will yield massive results but at least its a different tact to private providers.

      My only bone of contention is,”what if a claimant doesn’t want to join the reserves”, will this be seen as “refused a job offer” as you do get paid.

      Being a reserve is the smallest of part time jobs easily compared to life on ZHC. We know importantly that the army did struggle to recruit territorial soldiers after government cut forces so i hope this isn’t going to be the case along with tell claimants that they can use the TA as a reference to give some air that the claimant has been their for a while when all they’ve done thus far is sign up.

      I hope claimants ask these questions prior to attending as these are questions for DWP to answer.

      doug

      March 16, 2016 at 7:12 am

      • Update on this.

        Unemployed young people in Hampshire are being given a chance to change their lives with the help of the army. In the pilot scheme, the Armed Forces Employability Programme, helps those who struggle to find a job secure work. They’ll be put through military skills training, a week at college and a months placement with a local business.

        The army is working in conjunction with the Department for Work, with the aim to build the young person’s confidence, self-esteem and general employability.

        Among those taking part in the scheme in Southampton is 29 year old Tasha who has spent time in prison. She is now undertaking a week’s education at Brockenhurst College before completing the programme with a month working at South Coast Port Services within Southampton Docks. She said “I have been struggling to get a job for years as I don’t hold any qualifications and I would say that this is the best thing I’ve done. The programme has opened my eyes, they’ve been shut for too long.”

        http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/update/2016-03-08/army-offers-helping-hand-to-unemployed-young-people-in-the-south/

        enigma

        March 16, 2016 at 1:38 pm

      • ‘Tasha’ – didn’t she play the barmaid in Eastenders? 😀

        For Illustrative Purposes Only

        March 17, 2016 at 4:24 pm

      • Have ‘Zac’ or ‘Sarah’ signed up for this scheme? 😀

        For Illustrative Purposes Only

        March 17, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    • Hardly surprising, most job fairs and career fairs I have ever been to have an armed forces stall – whether its army or navy. They seem to want the down-and-out unemployed to “step up” to make up the numbers.

      Universal Jobmatch

      March 20, 2016 at 12:37 am

  16. Iain Duncan Smith asked ‘how do you sleep at night’ after imposing disability cuts

    Work and Pensions Secretary confronted with disabled people’s question in Parliament

    Perhaps it makes him feel more secure!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iain-duncan-smith-ids-how-do-you-sleep-at-night-disability-allowance-cuts-a6931951.html

    ken

    March 15, 2016 at 8:43 pm

  17. Panorama opened the lid, now local council cockroaches scamper.

    https://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2016/3/london-councils-vow-to-investigate-housing-benefit-millionaires

    Amazing isnt it, when no ones looking, councils will do all sorts of things they should yet as soon as media highlights it, these councils are running around trying to save face. Some councils have already said dew to the housing crisis, they need the devil just to cope.

    The funny thing is, you could build with the money wasted on private renting, yet all we do is line certain peoples pockets so they can create more hovels so as to extract even more money and i will explain.

    “Whether you convert a 3 bedroom house into 3 flats, the amount to paint it is the same”.

    These landlords are in some cases installing more flats in a conversion,that while fit statutory size, really are to the bone. Now as panorama highlighted, flats get more money than a bedsit where all rooms bar bedrooms are shared, so some landlords stooped to throwing in a sink, shower and toilet, a plug in hob in cramped conditions and called them flats.

    As people have seen already on panorama, the electrics isn’t converted to a commercial supply meaning the property despite now in flats is still restricted to 100A service that’s only really good enough for a single household or a house split into 2 flats.

    To add to this next comes water which gets delivered to your home at 4 to 7 bar pressure. If say everyone of the 4 to 5 flats drew from a single system all together (so getting ready for work), they would all witness the water reduce to an unacceptable flow. To get around this one would see showers installed.

    Now interestingly a landlord needs to get around the A power problem so would no doubt not install a 32A cooker and 32A shower ring meaning the showers run from a large tank and a single boiler to the house to at least power that. Now i strongly suspect if when the case, that landlords dont test the water (a statutory test) and thus putting tenants at risk of say legionnaires disease.

    Theirs way more problems to this as even with what i have imparted it still isn’t just that simple but it wouldn’t have to be if a statutory requirement was put in place to enforce landlords who convert houses to flats to have to supply an acceptable amount of power and water pressure to each and every flat. That a standing cooker only constitutes as a cooker and that each flat must have a power shower and bath.

    This problem could be easily sorted, the questions is are the government and local councils willing to do what needs to be done ?

    doug

    March 16, 2016 at 8:22 am

    • Ooops, sorry,

      Its dispatches that gets the credit and not panorama.

      doug

      March 16, 2016 at 8:57 am

    • A legal loophole, well many things could be easily fixed but many things are not and won’t be.

      enigma

      March 16, 2016 at 1:31 pm

  18. Could the living wage damn over 25s ?

    Theirs no article this time but thought we should cover it now its almost on the doorstep.

    To kick it off, ” anyone under 25 is exempt from the new £7.20 a hour “,

    Will this mean employers trend towards hiring the young over the 25s on the grounds their cheaper ?

    doug

    March 16, 2016 at 8:27 am

    • doug

      but of course they will – why would prospective exploitive employers want older less “agreeable” workers who’ve been stitched up by the system pay wise by being young at the time, and now having passed the magical age of 25 are now past it and more expensive?

      Gazza

      March 16, 2016 at 10:12 am

    • I can see a difference in this area where many of the over 25’s have been replaced with more & more of those who are under the age of 25.

      enigma

      March 16, 2016 at 11:19 am

      • An idyllic sci-fi future has one major drawback: life must end at the age of 30, rub that out, make it 25.

        Logan's Run

        March 17, 2016 at 10:34 am

    • A neo- Logan’s Run the only difference being instead of 30, it is now 25 before you get sent to the Morlocks.

      Logan's Run

      March 17, 2016 at 10:33 am

      • lol the Morlocks featured in the:

        Time Machine – 1960

        Time Machine – 2002 Reboot

        But you would be lucky to reach 25 before being captured and eaten by the Morlocks!

        HG Wells

        March 17, 2016 at 10:46 am

      • “He alters his theory, speculating that the human race has evolved into two species: the leisured classes have become the ineffectual Eloi, and the downtrodden working classes have become the brutish light-fearing Morlocks. Deducing that the Morlocks have taken his time machine, he explores the Morlock tunnels, learning that due to a lack of any other means of sustenance, they feed on the Eloi. His revised analysis is that their relationship is not one of lords and servants, but of livestock and ranchers. The Time Traveller theorizes that intelligence is the result of and response to danger; with no real challenges facing the Eloi, they have lost the spirit, intelligence, and physical fitness of humanity at its peak.

        HG Wells

        March 17, 2016 at 10:48 am

      • In the new narrative, the Time Traveller tests his device with a journey that takes him to A.D. 802,701, where he meets the Eloi, a society of small, elegant, childlike adults. They live in small communities within large and futuristic yet slowly deteriorating buildings, doing no work and having a frugivorous diet. His efforts to communicate with them are hampered by their lack of curiosity or discipline, and he speculates that they are a peaceful, communist society, the result of humanity conquering nature with technology, and subsequently evolving to adapt to an environment in which strength and intellect are no longer advantageous to survival.

        Returning to the site where he arrived, the Time Traveller is shocked to find his time machine missing, and eventually concludes that it has been dragged by some unknown party into a nearby structure with heavy doors, locked from the inside, which resembles a Sphinx. Luckily, he had removed the machine’s levers before leaving it. Later in the dark, he is approached menacingly by the Morlocks, ape-like troglodytes who live in darkness underground and surface only at night. Within their dwellings he discovers the machinery and industry that makes the above-ground paradise possible. He alters his theory, speculating that the human race has evolved into two species: the leisured classes have become the ineffectual Eloi, and the downtrodden working classes have become the brutish light-fearing Morlocks. Deducing that the Morlocks have taken his time machine, he explores the Morlock tunnels, learning that due to a lack of any other means of sustenance, they feed on the Eloi. His revised analysis is that their relationship is not one of lords and servants, but of livestock and ranchers. The Time Traveller theorizes that intelligence is the result of and response to danger; with no real challenges facing the Eloi, they have lost the spirit, intelligence, and physical fitness of humanity at its peak.

        HG Wells

        March 17, 2016 at 10:51 am

      • 😀

        EAT THE RICH!!

        March 17, 2016 at 10:54 am

    • Yes indeed. Currys PC World… they only employ school age monkeys. The problem was not only did they have no skills, experience or knowledge (or interest in the industry) as a compromise for the cheaper labour, but they had no work ethic, manners or reasonable appearance.

      The last time I went in they had:

      a) some girl talking to some customer on the phone reading out the information from their website, found it hard to pronounce anything and completely clueless and confused to what anything means. (Cmon it isn’t the 60s… there is no gender divide in IT anymore, why not employ someone who knows a little?)

      b) some spotty face boy who seemed so unintelligent I brought over the display model so he knew what product I wanted, despite me explaining it was a display model and I wasn’t expecting to take that with me… he was sarcastic and said “that is a display model, I will go and get the ACTUAL thing”… 15 minutes later (actual 15 minutes, what took him so long?!) he returned from the warehouse with the WRONG product

      c) some other boy was called over to operate the till as a queue was forming, despite a few tills to choose from, he logged the other boy out and logged in despite me standing at the till so I had to move to another till… and it was then I noticed the other boy had the wrong product… IDIOT!

      I then spent 10 minutes interrogating this idiot and seeing whether he could see the difference between what he brought back and the display model (completely different packaging, manufacturer etc), and then asked if he knew why I brought the display model over in the first place.

      So I went home ordered it (much) cheaper online and got it delivered the next day for free. What is the point of these shops anymore?!

      Universal Jobmatch

      March 20, 2016 at 12:58 am

      • Currys/PC World the ‘staff’ just seem to stand around. And if they see a ‘customer’ approaching the tills they scuttle off. And ever tried taking anything back? Jeez! Better to order online since you are at least covered by the Distance Selling Regulations.

        MSE

        March 20, 2016 at 10:12 am

  19. Pension credit cuts linked to increase in death rates of over 85s, study claims.

    A sudden rise in elderly mortality five years ago could be result of austerity measures.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pension-credit-cuts-linked-to-increase-in-death-rates-of-over-85s-study-claims-a6933271.html

    enigma

    March 16, 2016 at 1:45 pm

  20. And so the lies begin… 30Bn savings in one year????

    From live feed of so called budget by GidIdiot “Main point that strikes me so far is that forecast for 2019/20 surplus involves £30bn fiscal turnaround one ONE year!!”

    Gazza

    March 16, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    • Experts already ripped that surplus apart by explaining how government on funds go about manipulating time/s so its totally possible to pull it off providing revenue predictions are correct. As we have already seen Osborne failed in his first 5 years in office as only last year he claimed every things great yet come the beginning of this year starts mentioning the very thing economists,myself and others have said except we call it the coming storm and spoke about it years ago as an inevitability.

      So far judging by government borrowing, logic dictates he has every chance of not meeting this surplus but he could always borrow it, hold back money,etc and produce a surplus which if no one checks will see him being viewed by the public as the man that saved the UK’s finances.

      doug

      March 16, 2016 at 6:48 pm

  21. OT: More on Budget

    h/t rightsnet:

    http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/9522/

    Disability employment reform

    1.134 This Budget announces that the government is accepting the recommendations of an independent stakeholder group and will offer new peer and specialist support for those suffering from mental health conditions and young disabled people.
    Later this year, the government will publish a White Paper focusing on the roles that the health, care and welfare sectors can play in supporting disabled people and those with health conditions to get into and stay in work.

    [ME: Uhh-oh… this does not look good to me… ]

    Supporting the self-employed

    1.169 The Budget provides self-employed Working Tax Credit claimants with access to business support and will extend the mentoring support offered on the New Enterprise Allowance scheme to self-employed Universal Credit claimants. The government will also trial face-to-face support from Jobcentre advisors for selfemployed Working Tax Credit claimants, with a view to national roll out if successful.

    Welfare

    2.71 Behavioural Insights Unit Research –
    The government will work with the Behavioural Insights Team to look at new ways to support parents in choosing when and how to return to work.

    [ME: Ahhh, new Underhand Sanction Targets Slogan – “Work or starve”]

    2.74 Capping Housing Benefit in the social rented sector –
    The date from which new or renewed tenancies in the social sector will be subject to the cap on Housing Benefit at the relevant Local Housing Allowance rate will be deferred for supported accommodation – from April 2016 to April 2017 – to enable the government to complete a review of supported accommodation.

    [and this will stop the problems how? oh there’s a problem, lets introduce it anyway after we do a study with solves nothing…]

    2.76 Ensuring disability benefits are better targeted –
    As announced by the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, the government will ensure that support for disabled people is focused on those with the greatest need, including by:
    – changing the way that entitlement to Personal Independence Payment is determined – a reduction in the number of assessment points awarded for needing to use an aid or appliance to carry out two of the ‘daily living’ activities assessed. This will take effect for new cases and re-assessments from January 2017.
    – altering the arrangements for terminally ill claimants migrating from DLA to PIP – this change means that those claimants who are granted a greater award under PIP will get that higher award from the date of the decision, rather than remaining on their DLA award for the standard four week waiting period
    – considering the case for long-term reform of disability benefits and services that is fair for the taxpayer and for those with disabilities or health conditions

    [ME: So lowering the points awarded will help will it? I sense jiggery pokery going on here]

    2.78 ESA and PIP presenting officers –
    The government will increase the number of presenting officers in attendance at Employment and Support Allowance and Personal Independence Payments tribunal hearings from 2017, to support the tribunal in making the right decision.

    [ME: And where are these TRAINED officers going to be magiced up from?]

    Gazza

    March 16, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    • enigma

      March 16, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    • Gazza, can you add to this!

      enigma

      March 16, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      • I will give it a try….

        Actually, I can’t – its all that they dream of and I can’t bring myself to imaging a worse world to come – though come it will with GidIdiot “I can’t count [take out the o to taste]” Chancellor at the helm

        Gazza

        March 16, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    • Better targeted == Cut.

      Another Fine Recession

      March 16, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    • Lets total the numbers going to be hit shall we:

      Zero Hour Contracts – 700K – Tax Credits = stuffed
      On UC and self employed – 1.5 mil – Tax Credits = stuffed
      Disabled – 800K – stuffed
      On UC and working [unsure of number but must be above 1 mil] – Tax Credits = stuffed

      so 4 mil are from April 16 going to be stuffed, excellent work be the F$%$£rs

      Gazza

      March 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm

      • Yep, its a definite phasing out of tax credits and the reason you lose is, they pass the onus onto companies in the form of the living wage who then pass it on to consumers in price rises.

        First off,government gets to keep all your tax now your lifted out of the band (30-37 hrs), it will take quite a few changes judging by governments attempts to a persons tax threshold to actually say, government don’t get keep a penny of the credit that they would have awarded to you.

        Why government don’t just raise the tax threshold a further for this year another few thousand (so im saying 13’000 to 14’000) and then with genuine support, concentrate on those working less than around 30 hrs a week or unemployed i don’t know as thinking it wont present problems later on down the road is wishful thinking. Even self employed people will require further support when starting out or in the lean times when work peaks and troughs as it does.

        doug

        March 16, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      • & many more.

        The HB cut in 2018/19 increases from £120m to £265m – a 121% increase
        The HB cut in 2019/20 increases from £170m to £335m – a 97% increase
        The HB cut in 2020/21 increases from £225m to £390m – a 73% increase

        https://speye.wordpress.com/2016/03/16/lha-maxima-cut-of-1billion-buried-in-budget-today-the-figures-here/

        enigma

        March 17, 2016 at 1:07 am

      • Chancellor announces range of eye-catching measures including levy on sugary drinks, but Office for Budget Responsibility warns of looming fiscal hole.

        http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/16/budget-2016-osbornes-giveaways-mask-56bn-black-hole

        enigma

        March 17, 2016 at 1:30 am

  22. OT: Schools and staying opening after 3:30

    I would to pose the simple question. How/Who is going to pay for the extra School Hours? [The Aim is laudable, you know keep parents at work till they drop or have to collect the children] Teachers? Caretakers? etc etc. Where exactly is the money to pay for this GidIdiot bright idea going to come from?

    Gazza

    March 16, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    • It doesn’t matter as the extra time just wont work for the majority. The idea of homework was because their wasn’t enough time to cover and record/create it at school. Long before my time a bright spark somewhere worked out that for a child to be properly schooled to the extent we could all be intellectually high and conversant (evolve rapidly), that it would require an 18 hour day.

      This person whose name eludes me also went on to say that even in adulthood, we must continue to learn,discover,learn.

      doug

      March 16, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    • Again making yet more people work more hours & no doubt for less pay.

      enigma

      March 17, 2016 at 8:22 am

    • Scientists and musicians to be allowed straight into the classroom, government plans suggest
      Under new proposals, teachers will be judged on their performance in the classroom rather than by taking the traditional qualified teacher status before joining the profession; struggling schools will also be given two-and-a-half years’ reprieve from Ofsted inspections to allow for improvements to take place.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/12196768/Scientists-and-musicians-to-be-allowed-straight-into-the-classroom-government-plans-suggest.html

      enigma

      March 17, 2016 at 1:02 pm

  23. Disability benefit cut: Tory backbenchers call for rethink

    Tory MP says group of backbenchers plans to press for widely-condemned budget changes to personal independence payments to be softened.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/16/disability-benefit-cut-budget-sparks-tory-backbenchers-call-for-rethink

    enigma

    March 17, 2016 at 11:10 am

  24. George Osborne says the UK will be back in the black by 2020 as promised – provided the economy keeps growing.

    So remove the word promised.if if & more if’s.

    enigma

    March 17, 2016 at 11:49 am

    • George Osborne’s latest tax cuts for the wealthy will leave him with a Herculean task of reducing borrowing by £32bn to meet his budget surplus rule in 2019-20, according to the Resolution Foundation.

      The thinktank’s analysis of the tax and benefit changes for the rest of the parliament shows that by 2020 the poorest fifth of households will lose an average of £550, while the richest fifth will gain an average £250.

      typical pay will not get back to its pre-crisis peak until 2021 based on consumer prices index inflation increases. If the unofficial inflation measure RPIJ is used, which includes some housing costs, typical wages will remain well below the 2008 level until well into the next decade.

      http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/17/osborne-tax-cuts-for-wealthy-create-32bn-headache-resolution-foundation

      enigma

      March 17, 2016 at 12:55 pm

  25. The Government is justifying its disability benefit cuts with untested anecdotal evidence
    A report cited by George Osborne admits it is based on unchecked anecdotes by DWP staff

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pip-cuts-disability-benefits-untested-anecdotal-evidence-gray-review-a6936411.html

    enigma

    March 17, 2016 at 1:20 pm

  26. News hound will post some much wanted info later regarding making a claim for UC, that first interview etc.

    enigma

    March 17, 2016 at 1:57 pm


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