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Work and Health Programme: Will it Treat the Unemployed as “ill”?

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Is this what the DWP Plans? 

The Mirror raises issues about the new scheme that is to replace the failed Work Programme, notably Mandatory Work Activity and Community Work Placements.

The new one is called, The Work and Health Programme.

Its aim is to help long-term sick people find a job, but a DWP spokesman could not confirm whether it will involve forced labour because the details have not yet been drawn up.

Ms Long (of Boycott Workfare)  said: “We’re concerned about any trend towards making unemployment look as if it is a symptom of mental illness rather than a symptom of the economy.

“It does seem quite sinister that they’re shifting towards health interventions.”

Iain Duncan Smith said in a statement: “Our welfare reforms are fundamentally about delivering greater opportunity through life change: supporting everyone who is able to work to do so, while at the same time maintaining the valuable safety net for those that need it.

“This government has made remarkable progress but there’s more to do.”

Now we are well aware of schemes to treat the unemployed as “ill”.

The Mirror report indicates that the long-term sick will be on the same programme as everybody else.

What exactly is the ‘Health’ part of the scheme for those who are healthy?

What is this “life change” Iain Duncan Smith mentions?

Boycott Workfare raises a good point which refers, without doubt, to this:

June 26th this year:  Mental health workers protest at move to integrate clinic with jobcentre.

Mental health workers and their clients marched on a jobcentre in south-west London in protest at a scheme they say frames unemployment as a psychological disorder.

The Department for Work and Pensions announced in March that Streatham’s jobcentre would be the first to have therapists giving mental health support to help unemployed people back into work.

The DWP has now said that announcement was a mistake. But by coincidence, next week Lambeth council will open a £1.9m mental health clinic in the same building.

Mental health workers and service users, furious at what they see as an attempt to embed psychological treatment in a back-to-work agenda, were to go ahead with their demonstration anyway.

This is the crucial bit,

Anger has been growing since the March budget announced a scheme to bring counsellors into jobcentres to offer “integrated employment and mental health support to claimants with common mental health conditions”.

Under the plan, therapists from the NHS’s Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) programme would support jobcentre staff to assess and treat claimants, who may be referred to online cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) courses.

According to a recent DWP reply to a Freedom of Information request, the therapists would provide “Nice [National Institute for Health and Care Excellence]-approved and evidence-based psychological therapies to treat people with depression and anxiety disorders”.

And more here:  Counsellors in Jobcentres or Agents of Social Control ?

It’s time to make a stand, I am not the only therapist who is concerned that individuals who are claiming benefits may be forced to undergo therapy or be sanctioned.

The government announced in March’s budget an, “Integrated employment and mental health support to claimants with common mental health conditions”.

This “initiative” will see therapists from the NHS’s Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT),) “co-locate” to more than 350 jobcentres.

As anxiety about the Work and Health Programme grows (no doubt abated by the Little Book of Calm and aromatherapy), we need to know the details.

Now.

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  1. Cheer up.maybe IDS will be jailed for contempt soon after ignoring the recent court judgement against him and advising councils to do the same.

    Bill Kruse

    November 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm

  2. There were cases back in the 1970s where claimants who were signing on as unemployed at the old style “Labour Exchange” were called in by DHSS (Department of Health and Social Security) clerks for interview. These cases were not claiming any kind of sickness benefits, but they were sent nonetheless to an official Government appointed doctor for a physical medical examination all the same!

    Reports appeared in the press and on local television about this controversial activity, especially when clerks at the old DHSS (Department of Health and Social Security) were subsequently given access to claimants’ medical records via the official Government doctor.

    At least one such case was referred to a further appointment, this time with a Government appointed psychiatrist, because a DHSS clerk had been given access to a person’s medical records after the person had attended the first Government medical examination – even although the person concerned had never been diagnosed with any definite pattern of mental illness!! The person was called in for a further interview and confronted by a DHSS clerk who suddenly asked: “Oh, I believe you’ve attended a psychiatrist in the past?”

    The State’s reasoning seems to be if a benefit claimant “enjoys good physical health”, then that claimant must be suffering from some kind of “mental” condition.

    Meanwhile, where are all the proper, paid jobs for ALL of the unemployed? And don’t forget, how can anyone argue that the stiff competition faced by all Jobseekers – which is clearly external to each and every Jobseeker – is a symptom of some kind of internal mental condition?

    If you treat someone as though that person is suffering from some internal mental condition – while wilfully disregarding the external political and economic factors surrounding unemployment – then that is the road to insanity. Alternatively, people who ARE mentally ill should not be relentlessly intimidated into seeking work – which doesn’t exist in sufficient quantity in the first place!

    Controversial stuff – to say the least!!!

    Tobanem

    November 28, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    • Implying that jobseekers are mentally ill is just another bullying tactic and is a particular favourite with the third-party providers. “Are you OK?”, “Are you feeling OK?”, “Have you had your mental health checked?” “Have you been to the doctors?” “Are you coping?” “Have been to a psychiatrist?! Questioning someone’s mental health is a form of abuse and also occurs in relationships. But of course they are just asking out of concern….

      Starling

      November 28, 2015 at 5:15 pm

      • btw Are you OK, Andrew… 😉

        Starling

        November 28, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      • I hope you are well Starling.

        Stay Lucky!

        Andrew Coates

        November 29, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    • Do you want to see the doctor?

      Starling

      November 28, 2015 at 5:18 pm

  3. Its very worring as the atmosphere created in these schemes is simply goal related, they dont want to recognise that say a disability is a barrier,this results in someone feeling isolated pressured to reach standards which they struggle very badly and then inevitably halt at some point.

    The DWP are desperate to pin anything on the unemployed to make it their own fault,they would intrude into someones lifestyle without a doubt also,this may well be their intention here.

    ken

    November 28, 2015 at 1:55 pm

  4. Lets not forget all those who work part time, they too will be included in this scheme.

    The Autumn Statement and ESA claimants – some clarification.

    This integration of health and work sectors is worrying, as we have seen from the Work Capability Assessment that when healthcare professionals without the appropriate expertise become involved in dealing with very ill or disabled people, tragedies can occur.

    This could herald a reversal of policy from the DWP, and an attempt to provide genuine support without punitive pressure for disabled people – but given all that has gone before, it is difficult not to fear that this is simply the beginning of a new way to harass sick and disabled people.

    http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/22378

    enigma

    November 28, 2015 at 2:56 pm

  5. Reblogged this on perfectlyfadeddelusions and commented:
    This is what I am worried about, and the universal credits.

    The Porcelain Doll

    November 28, 2015 at 2:57 pm

  6. Health and Disability Assessment Service Service Training Programme Plan.

    successful. 23 November 2015

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/health_and_disability_assessment#incoming-736742

    enigma

    November 28, 2015 at 3:17 pm

  7. I just don’t know all the health related benefits are administered with dwp when logically and responseibily and legally by rights should be with health department like it was when they combined up until late eighties lets get it broken up dwp or reduced massively

    freddy

    November 28, 2015 at 4:20 pm

  8. “supporting everyone who is able to work to do so, while at the same time maintaining the valuable safety net for those that need it”

    -= the safety net will be there if you work.

    enigma

    November 28, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    • The safety net will also be there if you take part in Work and Health Programme.

      But they can’t can’t make it compulsory, yet, so it will be voluntary, otherwise known as mandatory.

      enigma

      November 28, 2015 at 6:45 pm

  9. How can one take a contradiction seriously. A contradiction has no foundation yet alone any merit. Confusion in a contradiction is a Nudge Units Contradiction Policy. If it was not the government it would be nutty quoting contradictions non stop. Another confidence trick that is not worth the non paper it`s written on. When it comes to writing down minutes the contradiction policy falters & fails.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    November 28, 2015 at 9:01 pm

  10. Falling behind the Health & Safety Laws again.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    November 28, 2015 at 9:04 pm

  11. The cure for contradictions is common sense.

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    November 28, 2015 at 9:04 pm

  12. Remember all these.

    Facing psychological coercion and manipulation has become a daily part of claiming benefits.

    Obese people and drug users who refuse treatment could have benefits cut.

    Why the Jobcentre is not the best place for mental health support.

    Tories discuss stripping benefits claimants who refuse treatment for depression.

    Lords challenge No 10 to prove value of public behaviour nudge unit.

    THE BEHAVIOURAL INSIGHTS TEAM.

    http://ilegal.org.uk/thread/9117/behavioural-insights-nudge-policy-applied

    enigma

    November 29, 2015 at 10:28 am

  13. The psychological manipulation of Jobseekers.

    http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/21823

    enigma

    November 29, 2015 at 10:33 am

  14. More volunteering or forced workfare.

    BBC Radio 1 and 1Xtra today announced plans for #1MillionHours – a year-long volunteering campaign that will see both stations motivating their young listeners to pledge 1 million hours of time to good causes over the next 12 months.

    Kicking off on 1 December with the first drive in the lead-up to Christmas, and running throughout 2016, the stations will shine a spotlight on all things volunteering in a bid to highlight the benefits of volunteering for young people.

    #1MillonHours is one of Radio 1 and 1Xtra’s most ambitious social action programmes to date, working with featured charities Age UK, Barnardo’s, Cancer Research UK and Oxfam to highlight volunteering opportunities.
    “why it’s good for your mental health and wellbeing”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2015/one-million-hours

    enigma

    November 29, 2015 at 11:06 am

    • They think it’s great saying 1MillionHours , but not being very good with numbers they haven’t realised that on average it’s only about 1 hour each person, full stop. It’s not worth the time or effort to do the paperwork.

      Another Fine Mess

      November 29, 2015 at 11:14 pm

  15. Provider GUIDANCE due to be REVIEWED and UPDATED!

    I would urge all of you to monitor this page (link provided below) for any changes in the provider guidance issued by the government, as I read in a reply to a recent FOI request on What Do They Know that the government is currently reviewing and updating its provider guidance.

    When the guidance for the Health and Work Programme is issued, it will almost certainly be on this page. So keep an eye out, all of you.

    A couple of FOI requests about the new Health and Work Programme have been made through What Do They Know, but as it’s early days, I’m not holding my breath for anything concrete to come from them just yet.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/dwp-provider-guidance

    jj joop

    November 29, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    • Incidentally, the aforementioned page was last updated on the 19th December 2014.

      Keep watching!

      jj joop

      November 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm

  16. […] DWP says it can’t confirm yet whether this new programme will involve forced, unpaid work or not. But as @refuted has pointed […]

  17. I have some slight concern of a direction of travel developing that leads claimants with a health condition into further examples of a catch 22 situation where they are forced to reveal sensitive medical data to get their ESA claim approved – which will then lead to that information being used against them – if they refuse such information then they will have their claim stopped or have a fraud case opened against them.

    It’s not unlike the way someone making a Claim for housing benefit used to be able to refuse to share bank account details with the organisation and instead make a attestation that they had no money – but if they did that now all that happens is the case is refereed to a fraud investigate by default and they get the information using powers they gain some years ago and have been happily abusing ever since.

    I gain some information recently that said every single case of Right to Buy of a Benefit claimant was automatically refereed to the fraud department for investigation as they assumption was that such people shouldn’t be in the position to take up the offer so there must be a fraud involved by default.

    So if someone applies for right to buy they get an investigator on their doorstep wanting to know how they are going to pay for it…. find if they are doing financial checks to see if the person can pay – but that isn’t it it’s a “Fraud Investigation”.. that is a whole other animal. and as part of the process many a claimant will end up having their benefits suspended as a result.

    So lets say a relative says – “I’ll lend you the money to buy your council house” – the DWP would try to say that if they had ownership of that money at any point for even a day then they’d be committing an offence and it would be an excuse to shut their claim down or suspend it.

    The person then has to prove that they didn’t commit a crime rather than the DWP or Council prove they have.

    So essentially the attitude is “Poor people are criminals and so must be up to something dubious”.
    EVEN HMRC are slightly more likely to be reasonable that the DWP of late and that is saying something considering HMRC can be pretty bad themselves too.

    Sebastian Colt (@Red_Rescue)

    November 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm

  18. The title of this page asks will the Work and Health Programme treat the unemployed as ill?

    Quote from the Government’s Autumn Statement:

    “introducing a new Work and Health Programme after current Work Programme and Work Choice contracts end, to provide specialist support for claimants with health conditions or disabilities AND THOSE UNEMPLOYED FOR OVER 2 YEARS”

    So, yes, the “new” Work and Health Programme will indeed treat the unemployed as ill. Presumably, the reasoning behind it all is that if a person enjoys good physical health, then that person must be suffering from some kind of mental condition.

    All it will do is provide a perpetual pretext for tick-box practitioners within the obscene welfare to work industry to apparently “help and support” people into work – which doesn’t exist in sufficient quantity in the first place!

    It’s the road to insanity.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spending-review-and-autumn-statement-2015-documents/spending-review-and-autumn-statement-2015

    Tobanem

    November 30, 2015 at 10:03 am

    • Another quote from the Government’s Autumn Statement:

      “doing more at the start of a JSA claim to stop people starting a life on benefits – requiring jobseekers to attend the jobcentre weekly for the first 3 months and bringing forward the more intensive support element of the Help to Work programme currently in place for the long-term unemployed”

      More harassment, intimidation, sanctions, starvation, homelessness, crime, suicides – and insanity!!!

      Tobanem

      November 30, 2015 at 10:07 am

      • Your right there Tobanem, there’s no doubt it will be a lot worse for for us all.

        enigma

        November 30, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    • Those unemployed for over 2 years, we know that will change.

      enigma

      November 30, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    • If this new programme is going to scoop up those who have been unemployed for two years then that’s a lot of people.

      Does anyone know when the current Work Programme and Work Choice contracts end?

      jj joop

      November 30, 2015 at 2:52 pm

      • JJ Joop

        Supposedly this must be replaced by 2017 when the new Health & Work Programme comes into play. However as with anything to do with the ConCons – and I speak with 20+ years as a ex-civil servant anything is possible. – i.e. Contracts end in 2016 I believe, would they allow a years gap? I suspect not in doubling down in applying the sanctions machine.

        Gazza

        November 30, 2015 at 3:05 pm

      • Hat Tip to Refuted [say this before via him but did not read further down page]

        JJ Joop

        http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=4535#more-4535

        CWP/MWA Contracts end April 2016

        one strange coincidence is that falls on/or close to when the new conditionality rules/regulations kick in… Or is it really that a strange coincidence?

        Gazza

        November 30, 2015 at 3:38 pm

  19. JJ Joop

    My apologies if I came over a bit sharp last week I was and am disturbed by the malicious actions last week by DWP – Implications woke me up on Saturday and I am still raging with anger about it. Family know something is up but I am undecided as to what to do while I research what action to take.

    Plus they’ve just gone and done something which has raised the flag of possible maladministration. Again.

    Legal Advice
    Civil Legal Advice is no longer an option to deal with problems with DWP.

    A Little tip I picked up from unemploymentmovement just now is Universities have Legal Clinics – which is another option for people. Just search for University Legal Clinics in google.

    I may take up that option but this is a lot more serious for them to be able to deal with.

    Gazza

    November 30, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    • enigma

      November 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    • Gazza:

      Don’t worry about it mate, we’ve all been there with these belligerent JCP bastards.

      Sounds like you’ve really pissed someone off. I actually had a letter from the manager of my JCP advising me that I am now regarded as a serious threat to their staff. And all because I had the temerity to stand up to to them.

      jj joop

      November 30, 2015 at 4:39 pm

      • JJ Joop/enigma

        Thanks for the encouraging support, and enigma thanks for the link.

        A Little hint of what’s to come spoke to a particular Gov agency which the non-legal advisor confirmed is probably Direct Discrim [due to ignoring issues/differential treatment/unable explain why not following procedure – will claim also deliberate counter accusations/Unreasonable delays ie explain in writing actions or otherwise/Displaying Extreme Reluctance for same/Deliberate ignoring and finally Unreasonable and insensitive use of formal procedures of complaints and,or discipline, competence].

        And received letter written in such a way to suggest knew of details in it – not been on CWP/MWa but ordered to a daily Work Search Review – they dropped the daily to disguise it. Unfortunately regulations state you attend such a thing after completing CWP/MWA – once again weird and wonderful things going on in my life. I don’t remember it & its not on the recording I have. Ooops.

        And no money paid on top of all that – just the icing on the cake, could be a mistake but methinks not.

        Justice is a Dish Served Cold. Very Cold.

        Gazza

        December 1, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    • It seems there is another option.

      You will automatically qualify for Legal Aid if you are under 18 or (subject to the Interests of Justice Test) if you receive any of the following benefits:-

      • Income Support,
      • Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA),
      • Income-related Employment and Support Allowance (ESA).
      • Guaranteed state pension credit,

      If a Representation Order is granted, you will not have to pay anything towards your legal costs in the Magistrates’ Court as all of our costs and disbursements (and VAT where applicable) will be paid by the Legal Aid Agency.

      http://www.cole-bentley.co.uk/legal-aid/

      enigma

      November 30, 2015 at 6:30 pm

      • enigma

        unfortunately I am way over 18

        Gazza

        December 1, 2015 at 2:51 pm

      • Gazza, “under 18 or on these benefits”

        enigma

        December 1, 2015 at 3:24 pm

      • enigma

        My Bad. Thanks – will check out.

        Gazza

        December 1, 2015 at 3:50 pm

  20. enigma

    November 30, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    • Perhaps they will be wearing Santa Hats…

      Andrew Coates

      November 30, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      • Black Ones Now In Poundland In Ipswich With BAH HUMBUG on them

        Naughty Santa

        December 2, 2015 at 9:34 am

  21. Spending Review: Welfare cuts rely on troubled Universal Credit.

    The latest schedule sees Universal Credit fully rolled out by the end of 2020/21.

    The new benefit relies on the real-time sharing of information between 2 major government departments – DWP and HM Revenue and Customs.

    In theory, someone whose employment circumstances change should see their benefits adjusted within days.

    But problems in getting the system to work have led to hundreds of millions of pounds being written-off and several senior managers resigning.

    Given the history of Universal Credit, it is reasonable to ask whether it will be rolled out as currently expected and whether the chancellor will therefore cut welfare spending by as much as he promised.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34936367

    enigma

    November 30, 2015 at 6:57 pm

  22. December 9th, noon join MHRN in Southwark to fight back against exploitation of disabled people.

    You are invited to join the Mental Health Resistance Network between noon and 3pm outside the Southwark ‘Employment Academy’ at 29 Peckham Rd, London SE5 8UA on Wednesday 9th December as we express our outrage at yet another attempt to replace mental health treatment with benefits removal and sanctions.

    http://dpac.uk.net/2015/11/december-9th-noon-join-mhrn-in-southwark-to-fight-back-against-exploitation-of-disabled-people/

    enigma

    November 30, 2015 at 8:54 pm

  23. It wouldn’t surprise me if this crackpot idea #4523 quickly disappears. If a potential employer finds out you’ve been on a Gov. Work and Health Programme, they’ll assume the worst and won’t touch you with a very large barge pole. 🙂

    Another Fine Mess

    November 30, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    • Yeah, not only will an employer think your are unemployable, they will think you are bonkers to boot 😀

      Mad Hatter

      December 1, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    • Another Fine Mess:

      “this crackpot idea #4523 quickly disappears”

      The WP, CWP and MWA were all / and are crackpot ideas but they have rumbled on, costing hundreds of millions of pounds. And leaving untold misery in their wake. This new programme will be more of the same. Spreading misery and fear. You see that’s really what it’s all about. It’s just state-sponsered terrorism, that’s all!

      jj joop

      December 1, 2015 at 6:31 pm

  24. How ironic, treating the unemployed as ill and the ill as well.

    Lucy

    December 1, 2015 at 11:25 am

  25. Ann Jones
    November 30, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    Hi I have been sanctioned for not going on a CWP my reason for not going is that I have been doing voluntary work in my local hospital since September 2013 to me this is the same thing as a CWP you are still working for no pay my JSA has been stopped from 25th November to 22nd December I have to appeal within 1 month of this letter can you offer me any advice or is there a template I can fill in to help me appeal with this sanction. Thanks

    Bump

    December 1, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    • Bump:

      Check out Jobseeker Sanction Advice. It contains templates you can modify for your own personal situation.

      http://jobseekersanctionadvice.com/

      jj joop

      December 1, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    • Bump:

      I’m very surprise you’ve been referred for a CWP, as the Jobcentre’s own guidance for referral clearly states that claimants suitable for referral are those whose primary barrier to work is either a lack of recent work experience or a lack of motivation. Check out paragraph 69 in the guidance in the link below.

      You have recent work experience and the fact that you are volunteering off your own back also demonstrates motivation and good attitude to work, and the world of work in general. Sounds to me like your work coach has his/her own agenda and just doesn’t like you.

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/community_work_programme_cwp_and#incoming-640517

      jj joop

      December 1, 2015 at 1:24 pm

      • Ann!!

        enigma

        December 1, 2015 at 1:29 pm

      • Bump/JJ Joop

        JJ that sounds about right – be very careful from now on as likely to be looking for any excuse to have a go.

        Gazza

        December 1, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    • enigma:

      Ann / Bump – whatever!

      jj joop

      December 1, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    • Gazza:

      “likely to be looking for any excuse to have a go”

      Who do you mean?

      jj joop

      December 1, 2015 at 4:19 pm

      • JJ Joop

        Sorry meant that as a warning for Bump/Ann – if you do not accept this sanction we’ll just look for another way to apply one

        Gazza

        December 1, 2015 at 4:53 pm

      • Gazza:

        You’re right there, mate. I had a former work coach who had it in for me as well. If it wasn’t for the fact that there was cut off date in force at the time, i.e. claimants who had completed WP before 28 April 2014 being excluded from CWP then I would have been referred to it, for sure.

        As for bump / Ann’s predicament, I’m not sure refusing outright to participate in CWP was a good idea. Although clearly she didn’t know about jobseekersanctionadvice.com or about the referral process. I would have been inclined to attend all mandatory CWP appointments but decline to fill in or sign any of the provider paperwork. As superted has stated previously, if you don’t give your consent for them to share your personal data then they can’t get a payment. And thus you are useless to them, a waste of space literally.

        I did that on the WP and I only had to go into their office once a fortnight for two hours and that was it. They tried to get me to sign the DPA waiver but I declined. The WP adviser was suitably crestfallen: like I’d just taken the opportunity of a lifetime and thrown back in his face.

        jj joop

        December 1, 2015 at 6:21 pm

      • JJ Joop

        Saw CWP provider she said “We and DWP are the same you should sign”. I pointed out what she’d said and then when she thought about it denied that she’d said it in the first place! Also their own [its a4e under another company name] data protection paper you sign states its by consent to share information and more nonsense is the statement you’ve been informed about “your security responsibilities”. Er, isn’t it the other way around, i.e. acknowledge their responsibilities?

        Gazza

        December 2, 2015 at 3:16 pm

      • Gazza:

        Sounds to me like they’re fucking about with your head on a grand scale. Typical provider. Put everything in writing: what they said and your response. And email it to them, JCP and your MP. Make sure they can see it has been copied to your MP! make sure you include replies to FOI requests from What Do They Know.

        jj joop

        December 2, 2015 at 4:47 pm

      • Gazza:

        And it looks like they can see the game’s finally up. No more leeching off the taxpayer for waste of time placements that go nowhere, at least as far as MWA and CWP go anyway. Hence their aggressive stance with you. Expect more bullying as the CWP trough remains unfilled.

        jj joop

        December 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm

      • JJ Joop

        I forgot to mention she is the 5th manager in 8 months. Very high turnover it appears.
        Oh and the high back chair due to my broken neck? No where to be seen. Ooops.

        Gazza

        December 2, 2015 at 5:04 pm

      • Gazza:

        Titter!

        jj joop

        December 2, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    • Go to http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org and you will find the help you need.
      On the Home page, look under RESOURCES and you will find excellent information on DWP and Contract Law. This will help you regarding your sanction.
      I have also been sanctioned, but with the information there, I am very confident of winning my appeal.

      epsom

      December 1, 2015 at 10:46 pm

      • Epsom

        I have now entered into the twilight zone of DWP – according to dwp I cannot have copies of the DM’s decision, nor of what was sent to him, nor can I submit anything in writing – must only be done over the phone strangely that means the letter I forced the section head to write out and sign therefore cannot be submitted as evidence… Strange that… I wonder why not? And having just rung and asked about only submit by Phone I get told yes I can submit for a mandatory reconsideration. Yes the dark arts are truly coming out now.

        And on arrival at the Joke Offices I find out there is a further Sanction waiting. But no one can say what its about as its Empty and no one can explain it. The Oddities keep piling up.

        Gazza

        December 2, 2015 at 3:14 pm

      • Epsom

        Saw this before but my bad mistake in not reading it. It is very very good.

        All should read and especially the Upper tier decision from Oct15 on Page 2 which basically states the JSA/CC cannot be changed without your say so – doing otherwise via sanctions pressure is illegal and leaves DWP/and advisers open to criminal prosecution.

        And the best bit? It makes clear Contracts cannot be forced on anyone doing so therefore under fraud and the individuals open to criminal prosecution.

        As I suspected there is no way of getting around that without undermining basic english and contract law so good luck for DWP in trying to force anyone in future to sign for CWP/MWA or its replacements

        Gazza

        December 2, 2015 at 5:01 pm

  26. Asked about new ‘ealth programme today at our fortnightly session for old lags and lagettes at the Jobcentre.

    They had no idea whatsoever what it will be,

    Andrew Coates

    December 1, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    • How are you getting on there – are they doing your head in!

      jj joop

      December 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm

  27. Thousands of people with cancer will feel “cold and lonely” this Christmas because they do not have enough money to celebrate or heat their homes, a charity has said.

    Almost 170,000 people in the UK with cancer are unable to join in special family events such as Christmas due to a lack of cash, according to Macmillan Cancer Support.

    Its survey of almost 1,000 people living with cancer found 9% had to miss out on visiting family and friends because they could not afford it.

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/nov/30/thousands-of-cancer-patients-too-poor-to-celebrate-christmas

    enigma

    December 1, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    • But of course they need health and work programme because they willed their cancer on themselves to avoid work will be the crack pot response!!

      katrehman

      December 2, 2015 at 2:28 pm

  28. Household bills targeted by chancellor as Labour raises fears over benefit cuts

    George Osborne and Sajid Javid want more competition to drive down prices, as Labour claims thousands could lose out due to in-work benefit cuts.

    George Osborne is to announce market reforms aimed at reducing household bills by about £470 a year, on the same day a House of Commons analysis for Labour shows thousands could be worse off by £2,500 a year because of in-work benefit cuts.

    On Monday, the chancellor and business secretary Sajid Javid will launch a plan designed to help people pay less for their water, banking, broadband, legal services, medicines, dental treatment, school uniforms, energy and car insurance

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/30/george-osborne-market-reforms-cutting-household-bills

    enigma

    December 1, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    • I can’t afford broadband and. Only have access to. Internet on my payg. Phone,and I was invited to upgrade my bank account but it would leave me worse off as I have no direct debits going out, prepayment meters and I refuse to pay even 2£ a month fees!
      Welcome to the world of work. The woman said oh you could earn cashback paying your tv entertainment package by direct debit. I have freeview!!

      katrehman

      December 2, 2015 at 2:34 pm

  29. CWP go live date for Anglia Region.

    Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and Suffolk.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/cwp_go_live_date_for_anglia_regi#outgoing-498399

    enigma

    December 1, 2015 at 6:53 pm

  30. Interesting site over on “What do they know”

    Currently, there is a request about how many people are still on Community Work Placements with The Salvation Army. The DWP have claimed various exemptions in order to dodge revealing the requested information! Surprise, surprise!! Explore this link here:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/body/dwp

    Also note a previous case concerning all the companies involved with Workfare went all the way to an Upper Tribunal Appeal – and won. The UT judge said the DWP should release the requested information. Here is the outcome of the First Tier Tribunal in that case:

    http://www.informationtribunal.gov.uk/DBFiles/Decision/i1016/EA-2012-0207%28+2%29_Judgment_17-05-2013.pdf

    And here is the outcome of the Upper Tier Tribunal:

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwd25z9g2tFPNzZfbVdQSFRZM3JwZzVwX1hDS01Kc0R0V05z/edit?pli=1

    Despite the previous ruling, the DWP still claim exemptions.

    Meanwhile, the current Salvation Army case is going to an Internal Review…

    .

    December 1, 2015 at 7:21 pm

  31. Positive affect as coercive strategy: conditionality, activation and the role of psychology in UK government workfare programmes.

    Social media are a primary source of personal accounts of the experience of psychological coercion; Twitter Facebook, the comments section of online articles and blog platforms represent some of the few opportunities for claimants to speak out about the content of mandatory training courses, psychological ‘referrals’, receiving daily ‘positive’ emails and the prevalence of positive psychology ‘messaging’ by Jobcentres and welfare-to-work subcontractors. Boycott Workfare also receives personal testimonies via email and the ‘name and shame’ forms submitted to the website (identifying business and charity users of workfare schemes). We deal with these forms of personal document in the course of our activities with Boycott Workfare; they can be made public where permission has been granted from the person involved. We have also sought permission before citing experiences detailed in blogs and other social media accounts. The ephemeral nature of social media, the use of pseudonyms, claimants’ fears of sanctions and retribution if identified and the painful nature of many of the experiences described raise a number of difficulties in accessing, collecting and selecting these data. Addressing these challenges is an important future research agenda for the medical humanities and forms part of a project on workfare at the Wellcome Trus.

    http://mh.bmj.com/content/41/1/40.full

    enigma

    December 1, 2015 at 8:30 pm

  32. The rise of nudge – the unit helping politicians to fathom human behaviour.

    The government’s behavioural insights team has won over sceptics in Whitehall and it is now ‘nudging’ behaviour across the world.

    David Halpern, chief executive of the behavioural insights team, which has quadrupled in size since it was spun out of government in February 2014. Now a private company jointly owned by the Cabinet Office, Nesta and its employees, the “nudge unit” (nicknamed after the best-selling book by economist Richard H Thaler) permeates almost every area of government policy.

    Pensions, taxes, mobile phone theft, e-cigarettes, unemployment, foster care, army recruitment, police diversity, adult education, charitable giving. the list goes on.

    http://ilegal.org.uk/thread/9117/behavioural-insights-nudge-policy-applied

    enigma

    December 1, 2015 at 9:39 pm

  33. Excellent post from “Epsom” above!

    The “Get out of Debt” site mentioned by “Epsom” has some very useful legal information regarding Jobcentre procedures.

    For example, here is a list of “false and misleading misrepresentations” frequently used by Jobcentre personnel:

    “You have to sign the new contract”

    “We can revoke your old contract at any time”

    “If you don’t sign we will stop your money”

    “If you don’t sign we will/can report you for sanction”

    “We can mandate you to sign a new contract”

    “We can issue a Jobseekers Direction to force you to sign a new contract”
    ——–
    It’s utterly amazing they get away with that level of malpractice – and that’s only a few examples!!!

    Tobanem

    December 2, 2015 at 9:41 am

  34. Empty homes,

    Why are so many British homes empty?

    Hundreds of thousands of homes across the UK are unoccupied, despite widespread concern about a housing shortage.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34930602

    enigma

    December 2, 2015 at 11:25 am

  35. Reblogged this on markcatlin3695's Blog.

    Mark Catlin

    December 3, 2015 at 4:05 am

  36. DWP assessors had not followed procedure

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/03/dwp-apologise-linda-cooksey-tim-salter-benefits-cut

    Not just the assessors.Dwp are still getting caught out at that policy.

    ken

    December 3, 2015 at 10:18 pm

  37. A lot of unemployed people do have mental health issues such as depression and anxiety to name but a few so simple saying a service like this is no needed is wrong. People on benefits that have gone into depression due to not working need support and there’s not a lot of it around at the moment. ~Signed an employment adviser

    Anthony

    August 18, 2016 at 7:59 am

    • Bollocks! If we got rid of fucking ‘Jobcentres’, ‘work programmes’ and ’employment fucking advisors’ the unemployed would be a lot better off mentally – it would free them from the stress and anxiety caused DELIBERATELY by fucking fucking ‘Jobcentres’, ‘work programmes’ and ’employment fucking advisors’.

      We don’t need no fucking ‘Jobcentres’, ‘work programmes’ and ’employment fucking advisors’.
      We don’t need no thought control
      ‘Jobcentres’, ‘work programmes’ and ’employment fucking advisors’ – Leave us unemployed people alone.
      All in all Jobcentres’, ‘work programmes’ and ’employment fucking advisors’ are fucking shit.

      Pink Floyd

      August 18, 2016 at 2:21 pm


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