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Work Coaches to Be Present at Food Banks to Advise Sanctioned and Penniless.

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Job advice to be offered at food banks, Iain Duncan Smith tells MPs. Guardian.

From here:

And here,

Work and pensions secretary says advisers will be posted in food banks in trial to be rolled out across the UK if successful.

Job advisers have been posted in a food bank as part of a trial that is set to be rolled out across the UK, the work and pensions secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, has announced.

People who turn to charities for help when they cannot afford to eat will be given advice on claiming benefits and finding work while they pick up emergency food parcels, Duncan Smith told the work and pensions select committee.

“I am trialling at the moment a job adviser situating themselves in the food bank for the time that the food bank is open, and we are already getting very strong feedback about that,” he said.

This is sad,

Sister Rita, a nun at the Lalley Welcome Centre in Collyhurst, north-east Manchester, said it was her idea to invite advisers from the DWP to help the food bank clients.

She said: “I wrote to the minister and the prime minister and received very nice letters from them both, but it was Iain Duncan Smith who said we could have a meeting with him in London.”

Asked whether she met Duncan Smith or one of his associates, the nun said: “We saw the minister. I wouldn’t settle for anything less!”

She said the meeting happened around three months ago and that the DWP advisers started coming in about three weeks ago. They are able to help clients who are having benefits problems, for example if they have been sanctioned, she said.

“I think it’s a brilliant, brilliant thing that the government’s doing,” she said.

The BBC adds,

Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has told MPs.

Mr Duncan Smith said he would like to see a trial scheme in Manchester rolled out nationwide after it was given “very strong feedback”.

Campaigners say food bank usage has passed 900,000 people per year in the UK.

Mr Duncan Smith was giving evidence to the Work and Pensions Select Committee.

“I am trialling at the moment a job adviser situating themselves in the food bank for the time that the food bank is open and we are already getting very strong feedback about that,” he said.

Robert Devereux, the most senior civil servant in the Department for Work and Pensions, told the MPs staff were in the food bank one day a week with phonelines available at other times.

Claimants are given advice on how to receive welfare payments as well as finding work, he added.

No doubt those people sanctioned will welcome the presence of ‘Coachy’ telling them how to find work.

Perhaps on how to get their money back……

No, you couldn’t make it up.




Written by Andrew Coates

October 28, 2015 at 12:47 pm

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  1. Advice, advice, advice, not money.

    Andrew Coates

    October 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm

  2. So….

    Coachy who sanctioned you… Say for non-attendance due to illness, death of child, being 5 minutes late etc etc, is expected by these fools to be welcomed with open arms at the place people are scrambling to get food due to their actions? Do they really think that violence won’t result?

    Here’s a scenario:
    I’m from DWP…
    piss off
    If you don’t do as I say, talk to me I’lll Sanctio….
    Someone call an ambulance!

    I’m from DWP…
    don’t want to talk to you
    If you don’t do as I say, talk to me I’lll Sanctio….
    you sanctioned me already, for going to my daughters/mothers etc funeral!
    If you don’t do as I say, talk to me I’lll Sanctio….
    Someone call an ambulance!

    I’m sure everyone can imagine the scenarios – how about inablity if DWP officers being able to explain the sanction and peoples reaction to that? those on drugs being added to the mix? This will not end well.

    I can foresee DWP offices being escorted by plods….

    As you say Andrew you couldn’t make this up


    October 28, 2015 at 1:01 pm

  3. I would hope any self respecting foobank would tell the DWP to fuck off since they are not beholden to them.

    As for the stupid bitch inviting these people in. What’s next? Welcom Dracula in for a nice cup of red wine and a bite to eat? It’s just ideological for these people, they only care about making money off the poor.

    On the other hand it might well be that a bunch of people in these places will roundly tell an adviser, present, to go fuck themselves. If that happens enough maybe the bald destroyer will get the message.

    ghost whistler

    October 28, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    • It won’t be just a solitary work roach there though – it will be a gang of them accompanied by a squad of ‘customer care officers’.

      It is like a farmer breaking the legs of his cow then kicking and laughing at the poor beast as it struggles to get back on its hooves.

      The very same fuckers that put you there in the first place laughing and goading you as they pretend to ‘help’ you.

      Farmer Brown

      October 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      • “It will be a gang of them accompanied by a squad of ‘customer care officers”. sure that will be the case because there’s going to be a lot of trouble.


        October 28, 2015 at 1:34 pm

      • Like a JCP work roach sat a shaky, wooden desk being punched through the face ever time they try and accost a foodbank customer lol It will be like a mini-JCP in the foodbank, an amalgamation of their respective ‘functions’, complete with attendant ‘security’, CCTV cameras etc.


        October 28, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    • The supervisor in the food bank I volunteer in doesn’t like the idea of DWP being in there!.


      October 28, 2015 at 7:04 pm

  4. With the DWP now getting involved in food banks, one shouldn’t forget the following info.


    Since I work in a food bank I can tell you that more and more are telling us that they are not receiving any benefits and are homeless.


    October 28, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    • So what would they say to the working poor?? You only work 7 days a week!! How lazy!! Try working 8 or 10??

      Kat rehman

      October 28, 2015 at 4:47 pm

      • That’s just it, there are many things wrong with this plan.

        DWP in food banks, another warning, to all those who volunteer in food banks, “are you looking for a job while there” these days we all have to be careful what we say to those we don’t know.


        October 28, 2015 at 5:08 pm

      • “Owen Smith, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said: “The revelation that the government is considering placing DWP staff in food banks across the country, highlights the grim reality that people depending on emergency food aid is increasingly a central part of Iain Duncan Smith’s vision for our social security system.

        “Under the Tories food bank use has risen exponentially, leaving more than a million people depending on emergency food. This is in no small part due to the secretary of state’s incompetent and callous running of the DWP.

        “It is of course important that people are able to better access advice and support from DWP staff. However, the fact that Iain Duncan Smith is so relaxed about extreme food poverty that he has allowed it to become an accepted element of the national planning for the DWP is deeply worrying.”


        Andrew Coates

        October 28, 2015 at 5:18 pm

      • highlights the grim reality that people depending on emergency food aid is increasingly a central part of Iain Duncan Smith’s vision for millions of peoples lives.

        There is yet another warning for some people who volunteer. one only need think about it.


        October 28, 2015 at 5:55 pm

      • “People who turn to charities for help when they cannot afford to eat will be given advice on claiming benefits” nonsense, and finding work while they pick up emergency food parcels, before your given food, use those computers over there to look for jobs, if you don’t you won’t be given any food.


        October 28, 2015 at 6:09 pm

  5. …But there’s no link between benefits and food banks.

    Another Fine Mess

    October 28, 2015 at 2:26 pm

  6. Was there not some bright idea of putting them in GP’s Surgeries too. You were meant to see them before and after your appointment ? What happened to that idea (Rhetorical Question BTW)

    Mister Middlesex

    October 28, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    • Doc’s yes, next HR’s will be replaced with DWP advisers. probably happening already, who knows.


      October 28, 2015 at 3:11 pm

      • Was also told a couple of years ago the sometimes but NOT always some of the volunteers in CAB MAY just MAYBE DWP on their day off or on secondment. Have you heard of this.

        Mister Middlesex

        October 28, 2015 at 3:18 pm

      • Mister M, DWP officers have been planted in C.A.B’s, to stop all those complaints going any further. there is one in the local C.A.B. not all the time though, only when regarding the DWP.


        October 28, 2015 at 3:26 pm

      • What happens if you go and make a complaint on the day DWP are NOT there ?

        Mister Middlesex

        October 28, 2015 at 3:34 pm

      • The DWP appear in a C.A.B when they are informed about a complaint. forget about the day you think they won’t be there!.


        October 28, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    • I’m lost? Would it be compulsory to see them even if working? An outrageous invasive of any ones privacy

      Kat rehman

      October 30, 2015 at 12:35 am

  7. This government is determined to have their spies everywhere. It’s getting to be more like East Germany – a spy one every corner.

    jj joop

    October 28, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    • Don’t forget it is possible to listen in on mobile phones EVEN when you are not talking on them.

      Mister Middlesex

      October 28, 2015 at 2:59 pm

  8. But what’s happening much more now is not people coming in with questions about their benefits, but they are actually interested in where [they] can find work.”

    Drunken Spliff claiming people are visiting food banks to look for work ???

    Another Fine Mess

    October 28, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    • FAO “Another Fine Mess”

      Yes, I fully agree.

      The very idea of food banks (of all places) having something to do with getting people into work is severed-from-reality NONSENSE!!!

      And anyone who still thinks Jobcentres are some vital and indispensable agency in getting unemployed people back to work, urgently needs a sanity check! Only a fraction of all jobs ever reach Jobcentres, so it is no great wonder that Jobcentres are responsible for getting only a few per cent of people into work.

      I tend to think food bank clients are not going to food banks asking where they can find work – as IDS claims – but rather they are asking WHERE IS THE WORK FOR US TO FIND?!!!!!!!


      October 28, 2015 at 3:51 pm

  9. People who end up at food banks have already been “helped and supported” at Jobcentres. That’s bad enough, BUT WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WORK – ESPECIALLY ON ZERO HOURS CONTRACTS? What kind of nice, kind, altruistic advice will they be given at the new style food bank?

    “Some people who are in full time work are using food banks to support themselves and their families. Many of these work zero hour contracts – people are employed, but can work little or no hours in a week. They have no financial stability, and are not guaranteed enough to pay their rent, bills, or buy food” – Quote from a report in the Mirror dated December 2013:


    Of course, the numbers are very much worse nowadays!


    October 28, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    • Tobanem

      This move might be a move towards addressing the swelling ranks of Zero Hour Heroes due to descend on food banks anytime soon after UC is introduced – its being rolled out about now.

      Over at RightsNet someone pointed out UC is not conducive to Zero Hour Working – Over/Underpayments is going to balloon like a rash.


      October 28, 2015 at 5:25 pm



    October 28, 2015 at 3:54 pm



      October 28, 2015 at 3:55 pm

      • Yes Tobanem, it’s already known well over a million very soon to be 2 million.


        October 28, 2015 at 5:19 pm

  11. There is a rumour that this is the ‘adviser’ the DWP is going to send:

    Andrew Coates

    October 28, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    • Ah

      Wankie the Quite Advisor – I can’t talk but I did cost £8.4 million which could have fed you and others…


      October 28, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    • No Sir You Are Mistaken. That Is Cute And Cuddly


      October 29, 2015 at 8:45 am

    • Hmm. The face reminds me of the characters in Waybuloo. Breach of copyright, maybe?

      There’s an idea, let’s get the piplings round to kick the shit out of this big tie-dyed bastard.


      October 29, 2015 at 9:30 pm

      • It reminds me of sully in monsters Inc??

        Kat rehman

        October 30, 2015 at 12:36 am


    From the Comments section on one other report on the new food bank job advisory service:

    “Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever had any real job advice from a job adviser? I know of someone who, when they asked upfront for advice about changing job, was told, “That’s careers advice – we don’t give careers advice”.

    I promise you, I didn’t make this up. It’s so ludicrous no one could make this absurdity up – except Jobcentre “workie coachies”!!!

    Time IDS had a new career.


    October 28, 2015 at 4:48 pm

  13. How exactly is an adviser going to help someone whos sanctioned or following an appeal against an adverse decision, its not like there in a position to hand out more foodbank chips is it ?

    As for the employed, i cant see them thanking advisers for reminding them of the fact there on a crap wage because this tory government fronts business before people.

    I wonder how long before the SFA sets up shop there also so they can get people into more debt ?


    October 29, 2015 at 6:07 am

    • Does Sister Rita know how DWP operates, meanwhile advisers will tell those who have been sanctioned, “play our game” only the claimant will still suffer until their sentence comes to an end,


      October 29, 2015 at 8:51 am

      • Its hard to see this going anywhere and you have to wonder is it more DWP headline grabbing putting foodbanks’ back in the spotlight creating fear,with these cuts their not likely to have people in foodbanks advising on benefits.they were supposed to be in doctors surgeries a few years ago too.

        As Tobanham says most of those have been bullied out of jobcentres by additional support not knowing their rights.


        October 29, 2015 at 8:23 pm

      • Ken we all know that it’s not about helping people to claim benefits, it’s about taking benefits away from people.

        Yes the problem for thousands/millions don’t know their rights, as in DPA.


        October 29, 2015 at 8:32 pm

      • ken, they are going to be putting ‘benefits advisers’ in your living room, but that’s not all…. next they will be sat in your toilet when you go to take a dump or whatever… D You will never escape these fuckers… not even when you are on the Throne! 😀

        Bog Brush

        October 29, 2015 at 10:35 pm

  14. It’s called rubbing salt in the wounds…. 😉

    Captain Blythe

    October 29, 2015 at 8:34 am

  15. Wouldn’t foodbanks have to be complicit to allow these JCP fucking over the doorstep in the first place. Foodbanks are private property just like a shopping centre – they can refuse entry to whoever they choose. Incidentally, Jobcentres are NOT private private property; they are GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS and as such have NO RIGHT to REFUSE ENTRY TO or EXPEL whoever they choose from their premises: by doing so the Jobcentre are acting ILLEGALLY. But hey ho, what’s knew… 😉

    It would be an affront to human decency if Foodbanks were to allow these JCP fuckers through the door.

    Another small point is that a lot of foodbank customers, probably most, don’t actually PHYSICALLY attend the foodbank in any case. They are refereed from an agency, social services who will pop round to the foodbank to collect the parcels. In a emergency accommodation unit I used to work in I would personally do this: drive round the the foodbank, collect the parcels and deliver them to the tenant’s door. Up yours to Iain Duncan Smith and the tenants having to trudge for miles, face the humiliation of a foodbank, then carry a bag of very heavy mostly tinned goods all the way home.


    October 29, 2015 at 8:46 am

    • Fifulec

      All good points.

      And when that becomes apparant DWP is being denied entry, next up will be the idea of mandatory home visits by DWP Advisors to “Help” claimants they have victimised.


      October 29, 2015 at 9:13 am

      • They do verification (?) visits in this area

        Home Choice

        October 30, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    • “Flfulec”

      Yes, and some people have to hand back food to food banks because they can’t even afford to cook it!



      October 29, 2015 at 10:18 am

      • There are many people who come into this food bank too who are given food that doesn’t have to be cooked because of the obvious.


        October 29, 2015 at 11:35 am

  16. NHS hospital to offer food parcels to patients at risk of malnutrition.

    Tameside, Greater Manchester, to join other hospitals in opening food bank, with staff trained to spot signs of poor nutrition.

    Emergency staff at a hospital are being asked to offer food boxes discreetly to patients they believe may benefit as they are discharged amid rising concerns among doctors of malnourishment.

    Tameside hospital in Greater Manchester is also planning to open a permanent food bank collection centre inside the hospital next month to help the nutrition of both patients and locals in the area.



    October 29, 2015 at 9:14 am

  17. IDS challenged on Food Banks by Britain’s youngest MP – who accuses him of turning food banks into an “OUTPOST” of Jobcentre Plus:



    October 29, 2015 at 10:28 am

    • OK So They Have Now Put Jobcentres In Foodbanks. What Next Foodbanks In Jobcentres ?. I Would Not Put It Passed Them On Giving Out Diet Sheets When You Sign On ?. Mistermiddlesex@hushmail.com

      Mister Middlesex

      October 29, 2015 at 10:54 am

      • “Mr Middlesex”, as far as I remember, there was a time when I think it was butter tokens that were handed out to some people on benefits a few decades ago!


        October 29, 2015 at 11:22 am

      • Thank You. I Do Remember. Everybody On Benefits (Pensioners Also) Were Given 3LBS Of EEC Butter From The Butter Mountain. It Was About 1991. We Collected It Down The Local Jobcentre.

        Mister Middlesex

        October 29, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      • It will come to the point of if one doesn’t play ball one will not be given food, weather it’s in a food bank or a JC. food banks are also in schools and now hospitals.


        October 29, 2015 at 11:22 am

      • lol love, We have still got a can of “United Kingdom Intervention Beef – Stewed Steak with Gravy (425g – 15oz)” in the very back of the cupboard – “Best Before September 1998” lol “Best Before” means that it is probably still edible 🙂 A nuclear war would have to break out before we open the can lol 😀 That’s what we are keeping it for – Word War III 😀

        Old Edna

        October 29, 2015 at 1:46 pm

      • I still have the PROTECT AND SURVIVE BOOKLET. Not Much Good Though. Felixstowe 12 Miles Away Stansted 30 Miles Colchester 10 Plus 1 -2 Bases. OH Yea I Have A Tin Of Black Treacle Dated BBF Oct 2000


        October 29, 2015 at 1:57 pm

  18. Food bank jobcentres’: will DWP make charity handouts part of welfare state?

    Iain Duncan Smith’s move to put jobcentre staff in food banks suggests a shift in outlook – and is tacit admission of link between welfare policy and food poverty



    October 29, 2015 at 12:56 pm

  19. At the Ipswich JobCentre Plus there was a Job fair today.

    A couple of free sweets and the kind of ballpoint that conks out after a few sentences were on offer.

    I don’t know what you get if you join the Armed Forces, but I thought it used to be the King’s shilling.

    I honestly don’t think there were any honest straight-forward jobs on offer.

    Still, we had to go, (and sign in to prove it) so I went and looked – at every single stall.

    Andrew Coates

    October 29, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    • Merely “looking” is not “actively seeking”, Mr Coates! We will have a chat about this soon.

      Ipswich Jobcentre Plus

      October 29, 2015 at 5:41 pm

  20. ken

    October 29, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    • A government spokesman said “We are committed to protecting the most vulnerable in society. The UK government continues to support millions of people on benefits with an £80bn working-age welfare safety net in place.”

      The reality is the safety net is being dismantled, and thousands of people are dying as a result.


      October 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    • Did not the UN send a special commissioner a few years back. I think she was from Latin America. There was no-co-operation and she was sent packing. Correct me if I am wrong please.


      October 31, 2015 at 8:56 am

  21. OT The Government is planning to scrap lifetime security of tenure for renters in council and housing association properties, according to industry reports.

    Inside Housing magazine reports that the Government wants to restrict new social tenants to five-year long tenancies.



    October 29, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    • Enigma. Logon To http://www.gatewaytohomechoice.org.uk You will be able to view but not bid for the various areas shown. If you select all the areas you will be surprised just how many offer 5-6 years only. Apparently they are ”rolling tenancies.” My HA is the same. Here is the link to the site.



      October 30, 2015 at 9:28 am

      • I see what you mean Homechoice, so this plan has already started. the end of council and housing associations properties.


        October 30, 2015 at 10:15 am

      • Are Housing Associations tenancies not already on “one month rolling tenancies” – ours is! It is just an illusion of security. Best to check your ‘tenancy agreement’ – you might get a surprise!


        October 30, 2015 at 10:51 am

      • Myself, private rented.


        October 30, 2015 at 11:41 am

  22. In the rest of Europe where they don’t have the British obsession with ‘home-ownership’ long-term/life-time tenancies work perfectly well.

    Policies such as this are designed to deliberately place tenants under needless stress and anxiety. What sort of sick mind sits round a table thinking up ideas to make individuals and families life a misery. These sick fuckers should be thrown in a mental institution where they belong!

    It’s high time these connards and that’s the whole lot of them were told to take a hike.

    The Precariat

    October 29, 2015 at 10:25 pm

  23. ENIGMA AND EVA. For quite obvious reasons I won’t mention where I am or who my HA is. I am on a 6mth rolling assured shorthold. Others are on a one month probationary. It is not just in the IPSWICH BOROUGH COUNCIL AREA. Other Local Authorities in the GWHC area operate like other LA’s but the HA’s are on the 5-6 year rule. This has been the case in the GWHC area since GWHC started 3-4 years ago.
    There is also the criteria of NO ASBOS or ABO (Acceptable Behaviour Orders). Due to INSURANCE reasons a lot of HA’s will now not take pets. When you get time read the full details on GWHC


    October 30, 2015 at 11:41 am

  24. ENIGMA. Ipswich…A lot of private landlords will NOT take HB or Council Tax Benefits Etc


    October 30, 2015 at 11:48 am

    • Thanks for that info Homechoice, I’ll stay where I am, in W Sussex!


      October 30, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    • Many here too won’t take anyone on HB.


      October 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    • Absolutely, and it’s a further problem for people who’ve been made redundant, or been sacked, in rented accommodation.

      Andrew Coates

      October 30, 2015 at 5:09 pm

  25. I tried and failed to get a move back to London where I came from. Being born in London etc does not qualify you for housing in that area. You must now be ORDINARILY RESIDENT in an area (Any Area ) for 5 years 1st. Send a few emails to LA’s pretending you would like a move or to apply and see.

    Home Choice

    October 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm

  26. Do Not Forget The autumn budget (Mini Statement is due soon)

    Keep Watching

    October 30, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    • Ah

      Another chance for GidIdiot Wankie Worm to bugg things up. Get the pop-corn!


      October 30, 2015 at 2:07 pm

      • Before they put a salt/sugar tax on it. I’ll buy my own kernels and make my own. As much salt/sugar as I like. I put some chilli seeds in my last batch

        Korn Dog

        October 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm


    On 23rd February this year the DWP met with The Salvation Army (plus the YMCA and Sue Ryder Care) to discuss Community Work Placements. The event was not widely reported – or reported at all at the time!

    That meeting took place after the Salvation Army said categorically in March 2014 it would not take part in CWPs.

    Take a look at the following three links in sequence, and then draw your own conclusions – or better still, contact The Salvation Army and your own MP to demand some answers:



    How many people have taken part in Community Work Placements at The Salvation Army nationwide?


    October 30, 2015 at 2:48 pm

  28. Gazza

    October 30, 2015 at 4:47 pm

  29. OT Police are to be given the power to view everyone’s entire internet history in a new surveillance bill to be published next week, according to reports.


    Internet service providers have warned that any new powers introduced by the government to allow broader surveillance of web browsing behaviour must come with adequate oversight to protect civil liberties.



    October 30, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    • A really dangerous move to give Plod more tools to fit up suspects. Knowledge is power!

      The next move will be to ‘outlaw’ ‘encrypted communication’, you know like ‘terrorists’ use, then we may as well just up-sticks to China or Iran.


      October 30, 2015 at 10:45 pm

      • Yes

        We’ve all seen how its cut crime by banning it… TalkTalk…Vodaphone…. hmmmm Hang on a Minute….


        October 31, 2015 at 8:26 pm

      • Cameron, U-Turn made on internet history, meanwhile snooper’s charter to be unveiled on Wednesday.



        November 1, 2015 at 11:18 am

      • You got to laugh at Mike posting this:

        “How nice to see that This Writer will be able to protect Vox Political‘s sources.” [by using anonymous proxies using encrypted sources.] when his own hosting provider (BlueCoat) ‘blacklists’ the very privacy tools might pretends to support and Theresa May seeks to outlaw.

        Try accessing Mike’s site through an anonymous encrypted connection designed to “protect the source”: “Access denied. Your IP address [x.x.x.x] is blacklisted. If you feel this is in error please contact your hosting providers abuse department.” lol 😀

        Just how the fuck can you take jokers such as Mike Sivier seriously?


        November 1, 2015 at 12:21 pm

      • Put simply, Mike’s very own sign ‘blacklists’ the very tools that journalists “seeking to protect their source” use lol


        November 1, 2015 at 12:24 pm

      • * site


        November 1, 2015 at 12:25 pm

  30. MP slams Iain Duncan Smith plan to put job advisers in food banks



    October 30, 2015 at 9:19 pm

  31. OT. Just what will happen to those of us that must use the banking system to receive our benefits with all the cockups aand hacks. Barclays are the latest. They were hit over night


    October 31, 2015 at 8:50 am

  32. The JCP work roaches being deployed at food banks will probably add up the amount of money it costs for the food you get, then deduct it from your benefits.

    Mr X got £8.50p worth of food – get his National Insurance number, foreword this to his JCP adviser via a note put on his file the next time he signs on, then deduct that amount from his next JSA payment.

    It could happen.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 31, 2015 at 10:49 am

  33. OBI. On the subject of National Insurance Numbers. You now need one when you apply for Driving Licences and registering to vote. If you get penalty points or parking tickets etc. Could DWP find out and sanction WTC’s etc

    Mr Smith

    October 31, 2015 at 11:28 am

    • Jobcentre Plus – An Executive Agency of the DWP

      Dear Mr Smith

      We recently told you that a decision would be made on a doubt: that you spoiled your Driving Licence deliberately in order to restrict your availability for work.

      We have now decide that you did spoil your Driving Licence deliberately in order to restrict your availability for work and that you did not show good cause.

      We cannot pay you Jobseekers Allowance for the next 156 weeks (3 years).

      A C***

      For Manager


      October 31, 2015 at 10:31 pm

  34. Either DWP workers who try this will end up beaten up or murdered, or they’ll need so much security that they’ll spoil the food banks and people will either starve to death, shoplift, or mug people.


    October 31, 2015 at 10:43 pm

  35. As far as I know the Jobcentre has no reason to ever see someone’s driving license acceptable ID for a claim would be the likes of a Birth Certificate – ideally with recent bill like Council tax or Housing benefit/Rent or Mortgage statement. You could use a Passport but I would guess that is just giving them needless access to a Photo ID which is also the case with a Driving license.

    I would guess that the DWP only has the ability to gain reasonable access to other information if it’s relevant to a fraud investigation where they could then activate all sorts of inappropriate powers. I personally wouldn’t suggest offering a Driving license as ID if you think it’s going to be copied – that is a bit to personal perhaps to wave around willy nilly.

    • The ‘work programme’, Working Links certainly ask for Driving Licences, Passports, Birth Certificates, bank cards…. all ostensibly to prove your ‘eligibility to work in the UK’ and that you are ready to take up employment. I have witnessed Working Links threatening their customers with sanctions if they don’t provide a copy of, and go to the expense of producing a copy Birth Certificate. Working Links also give their customer an umpteen-paid ‘questionnaire’ asking for all sorts of intrusive information that is NO FUCKING BUSINESS of Working Links e.g. family, parents, details of all finances, property etc. Working Links want to know more than the Jobcentre!

      Working Links Are SCUM!!

      November 3, 2015 at 10:03 pm

      • umpteen-page

        Working Links Are SCUM!!

        November 3, 2015 at 10:03 pm

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