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The Salvation Army is now Back in the Workfare Business.

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Hat-Tips and Bravo to Tobanem for finding this.

Note 2015 dates above.

Note “Work Placement”.


Salvation Army. March 2014.

We feel that a 26-week work experience placement is too long and would not be beneficial.  If someone has not found employment within two years, the lack of work experience is clearly not their only barrier to employment.  Our concern is that the underlying issues need to be dealt with holistically and work experience is a part of the support needed. As such, we will not be taking part in the Community Work Placement programme.

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In an important success even before the workfare week of action starts on 29th March, the Salvation Army have said they will play no part in the upcoming Community Work Placement scheme. Last year the charity was praised by the DWP for ‘holding the line’ on workfare. This recent loss of nerve can only be a direct result of repeated action taken to challenge the Salvation Army’s support for forced work.  The inspiring recent direct action from Edinburgh Coalition Against Poverty, widespread public criticism and constantpressure online has shown what the public think of charities that claim to help unemployed people and then force them to work for free.




Written by Andrew Coates

September 24, 2015 at 4:02 pm

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  1. OT: Young increasingly face stifling debt, Citizens Advice warns


    And in other News, the rest of the country wakes up to the spectre of deflation as Youngsters unable to spend cash as they don’t have any… soon to be extended to all those on Tax Credits come April 2016… Ooooppppssss


    September 24, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    • Most of us get into debt when young, for us in those days things were OK, but these days things are completely different as we all know, if like us those that are young today knew what was happening in the world, but then they are young and we know they don’t bother reading into current affairs which we too didn’t when young – the young are targeted more now than ever before.

      There are words in the BBC article which I don’t agree with. – even more human beings will suffer.


      September 24, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    • A coroner has called for an overhaul of the rules on payday loans after a mentally ill teenager killed himself on the same day that lender Wonga emptied his bank account, leaving him destitute.

      Kane Sparham-Price, 18, who had spent much of his life in care, hanged himself after he was left pennyless when Wonga took out a payment due under his debt agreement with the company.



      September 25, 2015 at 1:23 pm

  2. Just remember the Salvation Army’s role in exploiting the unemployed every time you see them collecting for ‘Charity’.

    Andrew Coates

    September 24, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    • I never did give money to those, and never will, because of the fact they are exploiting the unemployed for they know the unemployed are forced to work by way of a threat. or face hunger and homelessness.


      September 24, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    • Not forgetting that they despise anyone who is part of the LGBT community too!


      September 25, 2015 at 2:16 pm

  3. It would be nice IF they even knew the Salvation Army address in Splott – they even got that wrong – It’s Walker Road NOT Walter Road.

    So what happens if one is not Christian. Personally I view any organisation that only allows it’s staff (officers) to marry those of equal rank a cult not a denomination of the Christian faith.


    P.S. If the band is playing ALL the money collected goes to the band.

    P.P.S. My family (including me) ran a small business in Splott for over 100 years.


    September 24, 2015 at 4:35 pm

  4. OT

    Inclusive business key to the new global development agenda

    Business Call to Action sees strong increases in membership and commitments to improve lives and livelihoods for world’s poor people.


    On 25 September 2015, the United Nations will adopt 17 Global Goals to end extreme poverty and build a better world by 2030. But what are they?

    End poverty in all its forms everywhere.
    End hunger.
    Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all.
    Promote sustained, inclusive and sustainable economic growth, full and productive employment and decent work for all.
    Promote peaceful and inclusive societies for sustainable development, provide access to justice for all and build effective, accountable and inclusive institutions at all levels.

    If the goals are going to work, everyone needs to know about them. You can’t fight for your rights if you don’t know what they are. – meanwhile billions of human beings are suffering because 1. they don’t know their rights & 2. the rights of human beings are being taken away from them.



    September 24, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    • More on Global goals.

      Former England footballer David Beckham has urged world leaders to transform the lives of millions of children by putting them at the centre of their development agenda.



      September 24, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    • And the UK’s role in the Global Goals.

      Over the past 3 years the UK has lobbied hard to make sure the Global Goals cover the areas not covered by the MDGs, to make sure nobody is left behind:

      The UK successfully pushed for a stand-alone goal on gender equality, including targets on early and forced marriage, female genital mutilation, and – against strong resistance – sexual and reproductive rights.

      To lock in the economic progress made since 2000 and enable people to work towards their own prosperity, the UK has helped secure a goal on peace, security and good governance: the building blocks of stable, successful societies.

      The UK has played a key role in creating a set of goals that are universal and inclusive; underpinned by a commitment to leave no one behind.

      These goals are focused on ending chronic poverty forever, for everyone, everywhere. The most marginalised and vulnerable people, whether disabled, hard to reach or affected by conflict, will not be left behind.


      September 25, 2015 at 8:57 am

  5. Exploitation continues – yes we know SA

    Though slavery was abolished in the UK more than 200 years ago, exploitation continues. We are committed to supporting victims – both men and women – of modern slavery. The specialist support programme is designed to preserve the dignity of victims, protect and care for them in safe accommodation, and provide access to confidential client-based support services to give victims the space to reflect, recover and rebuild their lives.



    September 24, 2015 at 10:15 pm

  6. The work search notification mentions myworksearch.co.uk as remote provider led jobsearch and appears to be taking place at home, neither of which can be mandated.


    September 25, 2015 at 10:38 am

  7. Group Work’ psychological wellbeing and work feasibility pilot evaluation.

    An evaluation of the ‘Group Work’ intervention to improve employment and health prospects for people with mental health conditions.



    September 25, 2015 at 10:40 am

  8. DWP puts reporter on blacklist over the way he reports the impact of welfare reforms.

    DISABLED journalist John Pring, who uncovered the first suicide case directly linked to the UK Government’s welfare cuts this week, has been blacklisted by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) over his in-depth investigations.



    September 25, 2015 at 1:26 pm

  9. OT: BoE warns of Risks of Buy To Let Boom


    What part of this do the twits not understand – I wonder how a Total Buy to Let Market would work – collapse. I wonder how a Total Home Ownership would work – collapse? I wonder how not having social housing would work – collapse.



    September 25, 2015 at 1:27 pm

  10. Anybody with more details on the Salvation Army story please post or contract Ipswich Unemployed Action.;

    Andrew Coates

    September 25, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    • Twelve reasons why you should think twice about supporting the Salvation Army.



      September 25, 2015 at 4:48 pm

      • enigma,

        read with interest and noted the following:

        1. Upholding inequality.
        “Regardless of their attitude towards social structures the primary aim of the Salvation Army was not to provide charity, but to win souls from the devil. Booth stated that what was important was not “whether a man died in the poorhouse but if his soul was saved”.(2)”

        “So from the very beginning the Salvation Army was in favour of a world made up of bosses and bossed.”

        “This moral code had a dark side, in that it allowed the Salvation Army to blame the victims of poverty for their own situation.”

        4. Its support for conservative politics.
        The Salvation Army claims to be apolitical, but a close look at its connections, activities and history shows that they are anything but. From the beginning the Army has seen itself as a way of turning workers away from acting against their bosses.

        5. Harassing the Poor.
        The Salvation Army act directly as case managers for unemployed people through their own private Job Network agency.

        hhhhmmm this all looks and sounds very much like the ConCons & George Smiths Mantra….


        September 25, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      • The first I learnt about the politics of the Salvation Army was this:

        “The Nationwide Festival of Light was a short-lived grassroots movement formed by British Christians concerned about the development of the permissive society in the UK at the end of the 1960s.

        Its leading lights included the clean-up TV campaigner Mary Whitehouse, the journalist and author Malcolm Muggeridge and a number of leading clergymen. The British pop star Cliff Richard was a leading supporter. The movement was opposed to what they saw as the growing trends in the mass media for the explicit depiction of sexual and violent themes. Its culmination was a pair of mass rallies in Trafalgar Square and Hyde Park, London in September 1971.”

        “Quotations from some leaders of the movement[edit]
        Bob Danvers-Walker (TV personality): “This is the age when men with dirty minds and tongues flourish because up till now there has been no militancy against those degenerates who befoul every form of art.”

        John Biggs-Davison (MP for Chigwell): “It is not so much a permissive society as a licentious, callous and cruel society… The Christian strives to imitate Christ who calls him to heroic purity.”

        Frank Deeks (Dagenham shop steward): “We ordinary people have allowed, through apathy, our television sets to become sewers… Our churches (and may God forgive them) have often been compromising, hesitant and plain scared to give a lead.”

        Trevor Huddleston (Anglican bishop): “For me the definition of pornography or obscenity is very simple. It is the abuse of what is made in the image and likeness of God for any end whatsoever.”

        Salvation Army petition demonstrating “the strength of feeling in a large part of society against the commercialisation of sex in ways which ensure financial gain for the exploiters and the creation of false values in the lives of the exploited.”

        Malcolm Muggeridge (journalist): “The purpose of the festival is that… the relatively few people who are responsible for this moral breakdown of our society will know that they are pitted against, not just a few reactionary people, but all the people in this country who still love this Light – the Light of the world.”

        Sunday Telegraph: “In the Festival of Light the silent majority has found its voice.”

        John Capon (newspaper editor): “The Nationwide Festival of Light began, as we have seen, with the vision of one man, who was prepared to act decisively on what he had seen.”


        Andrew Coates

        September 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    • Another Fine Mess

      September 25, 2015 at 5:39 pm

  11. JSA Claimants in Bradford are now being allocated a dedicated work roach instead of being seen by the next available adviser to sign on.

    The work roach will coach you on improving your chances of finding employment (don’t laugh) and so on etc…

    Sounds very much like what they used to do before we got sent on the massive failure that was called ‘New Deal’.

    They just don’t learn do they? – Re-hashing a defunked abomination? – Come on DWP your not that desperate are you?

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 26, 2015 at 9:25 am

    • I wonder what they mean by: “coach you on improving your chances of finding employment”. Yes it does look very much like we’re back to where we were pre-New Deal.

      For any one who’s interested, there will be a Jobs Fair at Ely Jobcentre Plus, 1 October 2015 between 10am – 1pm: “Come along to our Jobs Fair and talk to local employers & providers about their current vacancies and provision” so sayeth the flyer I was given by my Work Coach. I have been pressed into attending, by the way.

      Any takers? Obi? gaia? enigma? Come on Andrew, I’m just down the road from you! Come on now.

      jj joop

      September 26, 2015 at 12:31 pm

      • “Coach you on improving your chances of finding employment” well it’s nothing but workfare, and to be happy about it, see “smile again”!

        JJ, while your there, inform all those unemployed people you see about the truth.


        September 26, 2015 at 2:45 pm

      • JJ,

        Are Joke fairs back on? – Not in Bradford there not, last time they tried that here – no one turned up!

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        September 26, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    • i had a dedicated roach that basic tried everything he could to have my money stopped with a sanction doubt but failed every single time.

      was not interested in me finding work just any way he could get a sanction doubt lasts 12 weeks then went round the hole office for them to try and fail to sanction me.

      you sign every week when u got 1 of those till they give up then was back to 2 week signing.


      September 26, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    • I’ll let you know the outcome, i.e. how many people attend, etc. Should be interesting.

      jj joop

      September 27, 2015 at 11:33 am

  12. Correspondence with the Salvation Army.

    In FOI 1838 it was also mentioned that there was a teleconference between Chris Hayes and
    Salvation Army on the 6th March. Although you say no minutes were recorded, could I please
    have anything written down about this meeting, either during or after.

    In response to your question about Chris Hayes, I can confirm that nothing was written down
    either during or after the teleconference he had with the Salvation Army.

    Please note: the Employment Group no longer exists as part of the DWP. The above meeting
    and correspondence was between Labour Market Interventions Strategy Division (part of
    DWP’s Strategy Group), DWP’s Press Office and the Salvation Army. I can confirm that no
    other parts of the DWP that were part of the Employment Group have met with or had
    correspondence with the Salvation Army.



    September 26, 2015 at 9:29 am

    • The above info was in 2013.


      September 26, 2015 at 10:17 am

      • Obviously we know that this has been going on a lot longer.


        September 26, 2015 at 2:30 pm

  13. How the DWP handles Freedom of Information Requests.

    In DWP FoI requests are answered by the staff responsible for the information sought. This
    means that any member of staff could deal with a request as part of their normal duties. The
    time spent on FoI activities by authors is not recorded so on reflection the information you seek
    in this regard is not held.

    However, there is a central FOI team of 5 full-time staff and one part-time member of staff. The
    team provides advice and guidance to authors and co-ordinates the handling of complaints.
    Some team members also have other duties too.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 26, 2015 at 10:12 am

  14. Make A National Database of People With Multi-Complex Disabilities for ESA Purposes.

    “I am making a call asking Iain Duncan Smith to create a National database of people with multi-complex disabilities who will NEVER be able to work”.



    September 26, 2015 at 7:40 pm

  15. Letter to Jobcentre: Office Stamp as proof of receipt. 24 September 2015,

    Many claimants delivering documents by hand to Jobcentre Plus are asking Jobcentre staff to acknowledge receipt by stamping either an original valid document or a copy of it. In many cases, though not all, Jobcentre plus staff are refusing to acknowledge receipt of documents and are claiming that their particular office does not
    have a stamp or that the Employment Officer is under no obligation to stamp documents. I can think of no reason why an Employment Officer might refuse to acknowledge receipt of a claimants’
    documents, unless of course, there is a wilful intention to make life as difficult as possible for the claimant.



    September 26, 2015 at 8:53 pm

  16. Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 26, 2015 at 10:20 pm

  17. knickers

    iain duncan smith

    September 27, 2015 at 12:00 am

  18. A record 6.5 million people – almost a quarter of UK workers – will remain trapped on poverty pay next year, despite George Osborne’s 50p-an-hour increase in the national minimum wage, according to research by the Resolution Foundation thinktank.

    Adam Corlett, Resolution’s economic analyst, said: “While the chancellor’s new wage floor will give a welcome boost to millions of Britain’s lowest-paid staff, it cannot guarantee a basic standard of living or compensate for the £12bn of welfare cuts that were announced alongside it.”



    September 27, 2015 at 11:00 am

  19. I have just started workfare at tenovus and facing six months of working for benefits. I wonder how many of the people who make donations to them actually know they are making us work for nothing. Slave labour comes to mind.


    October 1, 2015 at 8:31 am

    • Is this them?

      Tenovus Cancer Care is a British cancer charity committed to the control of cancer through quality research, prevention/education, counselling and patient care.


      Andrew Coates

      October 1, 2015 at 3:20 pm

      • That’s them. They are based in Wales with over 60 shops but have recently opened a shop in Bristol. They are trialing workfare in a hand full of shops and if it works out imagine how many workfare slaves they could force to work for benefits if they fill up those 60 plus shops with workfare slaves.


        October 1, 2015 at 11:36 pm

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