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The experiences of JSA from former ESA claimants.

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The experiences of JSA from former ESA claimants

Hello, I am a Master’s student undertaking a research project of the experiences of JSA from former ESA claimants. What follows is a short survey open questions aimed at understanding people’s experiences of JSA now that they are no longer eligible for ESA. You can answer as much or as little as you like. There is a chance that recounting experiences may cause emotional upset. You can withdraw at any time and you can skip any questions you do not wish to answer. All responses will be treated with confidentiality. At the end, there is an option to leave your contact details for further queries if you wish to do so.

For any questions or queries, I can be contacted at: rose.t9233@gmail.com

Many thanks for taking the time to participate!

Link here.

We wish Rose well in her valuable project.



Written by Andrew Coates

September 19, 2015 at 12:03 pm

Posted in Cuts, DWP, Food Banks, Fraud

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  1. Tory councillor Mark Winn says food banks are only used by ‘those with drug, alcohol and mental health problems’.

    Civil servant and former Bucks health committee member deletes Twitter account following online backlash.



    September 19, 2015 at 4:40 pm

  2. Rose will no doubt receive thousands of replies for her project, as thousands or hundreds of have been found fit for work after the so called assessments.


    September 19, 2015 at 5:31 pm

  3. John McDonnell accuses George Osborne of pursuing ‘immoral’ policies .

    The new shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, has torn into George Osborne for pursuing “immoral” policies that hurt the poorest in society as he spelled out a radical and sweeping leftwing agenda for the UK economy.



    September 19, 2015 at 7:33 pm

  4. Let’s be honest! ESA is just extra £cash£ in the pocket. Osborne was right: “It is the benefit everyone tries to get on and stay on”. And extra £30+ on top of JSA for doing jack-shit.

    You can’t just keep focusing on a tragic case here and there of someone committing suicide after being transferred from ESA to JSA.There are way, way too who are hiding under the skirts of these rare cases in order to cling onto the coat-tails of ESA. There are way, way too many claimants on ESA who should be on JSA.

    It should be scrapped and ESA claimants paid at the JSA rate. And Osborne fully intends to scrap it. And he has full public support – the general public aren’t as stupid as these ‘disability’ campaign groups think.

    J Tomk

    September 19, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    • It is not everyone wants to receive ESA and stay on it, there is me, who doesn’t need it because I’m fit, I’m not the only one. so Osborne talking nonsense with that one.


      September 19, 2015 at 9:39 pm

      • Osborne before scrapping ESA it should first be given a new name for there are disabled human beings that exist and there always will be.


        September 20, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      • I received ESA for two months. I was working full time when I went off sick and went back to work when I felt better.
        Incidentally it was stress from work that caused me to go sick. Regularly bouncing pay cheques and continual sexual harassment. Still I went back. Thankfully the company went bust and I had 2 weeks on JSA before I landed current jobs

        kat rehman

        September 24, 2015 at 10:30 am

    • asasdasgjhldfdgfdfsdfafa

      what the fuck is wrong with this blog

      September 20, 2015 at 10:22 am

    • yutrutruyryrtyerwtyt

      what the fuck is wrong with this blog

      September 20, 2015 at 10:22 am

    • Another crass statement.Putting people on JSA which are ill is simply just a case of waiting to sanction someone with oppressive conditions and someone not knowing their rights, its certainly not going to get them employed who wants to employ sick people who are going to need time off for treatment at hospital possibly for life. Its just to cut costs stopping someones money. Full public support until affects them,then they are in need realisation of the situation sets in and they are the scroungers.

      A case of I’m alright jack,that doesn’t last forever people just don’t have the finances to fall back on if they cannot work in today’s debt ridden want society,the sources of this irresponsible debt which are responsible for this collapse bailed out then sold off at a loss,Osbourne isn’t making such a fuss over that though in the headlines!


      September 20, 2015 at 10:34 pm

      • Yes, there are many people who think that they won’t lose their job, will never be on benefits, will never lose their house, never need to go to a food bank and all the rest that we know is happening to many, there are many people in a bubble, who don’t know what is going on, don’t care what is going on. of course we don’t want anyone to suffer, but such people no doubt will because of their lack of knowledge.


        September 20, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    • But you have to admit though that can extra £30+ in your pocket would come in handy……. 😉 Think what you could do with another £1500+ a year 🙂

      And if you are on the higher rates of ‘disability’, say ‘schizophrenic’, abuse alcoholic, are a drug user etc., you ‘take home’ over £280 a week; four times the JSA rate; think what a difference an extra £210 a week (£10,920 a year) would make to your life-style 🙂


      September 21, 2015 at 6:23 am

    • j Tomk ( i take it you are a pig f****er )

      Worked for 35 yrs the last 18 with one employer was medically retired in 2005
      Recieved Incapacity benefit £104 my £60 pw works pension was under the means test limiit
      so total ” income ” £164 pw no rent or council tax
      2012 healed by atos zero points
      awarded 15 points at tribunal took 11 months
      1 month later am migrated to income related ESA
      Now receive £21 ESA and my £60 works pension
      minus £8 council tax and £14 bedroom tax
      A reduction in ” income ” of £105
      There again i have been judged so anm obviously a scrounger swinging the lead

      Having won my apeal i now find myself in the ” WRAG ”
      I believe if the DM had investigated the data used at the Tribunal then it would be clear i should be in the Support group
      Having several Muscoskeletal conditions all asociated with chronic pain
      all classed as debilitating and degenerative with no expectation of improvement
      Fused Spine with degenerative disc disease at all levels of the lumbar a#spine along with plate irregularity “scheuermanns ” disease
      Scheuermann’s disease is notorious for causing lower and mid-level back and neck pain, which can be severe and disabling. The sufferer may feel pain at the apex of the curve, which can be aggravated by physical activity and by periods of standing or sitting;
      this can have a significantly detrimental effect to their lives as their level of activity is curbed by their condition

      Hip “Perthes Disease
      Common symptoms include hip, knee (hip pathology can refer pain to a normal knee), or groin pain, exacerbated by hip/leg movement, especially internal hip rotation (twisting the leg toward the center of the body). The pain is moderate to severe, at times rendering the patient unable to stand. There is a reduced range of motion at the hip joint, and there is a painful or antalgic gait. There may be atrophy of thigh muscles from disuse and an inequality of leg length. In some cases, some activity can cause severe irritation or inflammation of the damaged area including standing, walking, running, kneeling, or stooping repeatedly for an extended period of time. In cases exhibiting severe femoral osteonecrosis, pain is usually a chronic, throbbing sensation exacerbated by activity
      Also have refered pain and problems with the other leg due to altered walking patterns
      Arthritis and cartlidge
      Have developed problems in both kneecaps over the last year which are not helped by any increased mobility

      that apart i believe that the following regulation should be taken into consideration
      The Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2008
      Exceptional circumstances Regulation 29
      29. (1) A claimant who does not have limited capability for work as determined in accordance with the limited capability for work assessment is to be treated as having limited capability for work if paragraph (2) applies to the claimant.
      (2) This paragraph applies if—
      (b)the claimant suffers from some specific disease or bodily or mental disablement and, by reasons of such disease or disablement, there would be a substantial risk to the mental or physical health of any person if the claimant were found not to have limited capability for work.

      Leslie Perkins

      September 22, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    • totally crass bigoted uninformed opinion
      the majority of ESA ( ex incapacity ) wouldnt be allowed to go onto JSA as they have medical conditions

      To claim JSA you must be able to work
      be available for work and actively
      seeking work.

      Leslie Perkins

      September 22, 2015 at 1:46 pm

  5. OT: Privitisation of DWP via Backdoor


    “DWP have decided that private company Serco will be involved in delivering the Personal Independence Payment (PIP).

    They will deliver PIP new claims and new claim reassessment service lines. This work is currently done in-house by DWP staff. Serco will taking on the work of about 279 staff at their existing sites in Bolton and Knowsley. Serco will take on this work in two phases, in October and November 2015. No DWP staff will transfer to Serco under these arrangements.

    PCS were not consulted over this privatisation of DWP work. We have made clear to management that outsourcing this work is likely to create problems in the services to the public which our members will have to deal with.”

    Any who claim, brace yourselves for a sh*&storm of problems…


    September 19, 2015 at 8:16 pm

  6. Today at around 1.00pm.

    Vox Political to appear on LBC Radio today to talk about DWP lies over benefit deaths:



    September 21, 2015 at 12:00 pm

  7. OT: Apprenticeships

    See for some news on Apprenticeships.

    “Fake apprenticeships – crackdown planned”

    How will this play out in practice for the government I wonder if it comes to pass? [something I expect NOT to happen – it would blow a hole in the current free ride…. unless Business just realized that the people they’ve been taking for a ride are their future prospective customer who might go elsewhere…]


    September 21, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    • And up to 5 years of it. how many of those people on them have qualifications or a career.

      The UK government has implemented a rigorous apprenticeship structure which in many ways resembles the traditional architecture of the 1960s and 1970s. There are three levels of apprenticeship available spanning 1-5 years. Learners start at a level which reflects their current qualifications and the opportunities available in the sector of interest:



      September 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm

  8. All:

    Can the Jobcentre force JSA claimants to work three days a week laying a footpath/walkway at a sheltered housing complex? Because this is what I encountered today. There were about a dozen of them. I recognised one of them and asked him what he what he was doing. He told me he had been told by the Jobcentre that he and the rest of them had to do this. I was astounded. I thought only the pimps (providers) could dole out the slave labour placements.

    Any comments, anyone.

    jj joop

    September 21, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    • But who was it that told them, was it someone in the job centre, was it a provider in the job centre, were those people phoned by someone telling them that it was the job centre who they were talking to.


      September 21, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      • enigma:

        He was volunteered by his JCP adviser, apparently. I asked him all the usual questions you just asked. When I advised he was not obliged to take part in this scheme, he just gazed at me vacantly.

        My JCP adviser tried to “volunteer” me for a similar a similar scheme with my local council for two days a week. Unfortunately for her, I read this website and What Do they Know regularly, so I was able to blow her sorry ass out of the water. She told me it would be good for me and improve my prospects for securing employment, etc. Bollocks! I asked her to put in writing exactly what she wanted me to do and what the consequences would be if I declined. Needless to say, I never heard any more about it.

        jj joop

        September 22, 2015 at 7:21 am

  9. An update on – Fit for work assessment was trigger for suicide, coroner says.

    A DWP spokesman said improvements had been made to the system since the coroner’s report. The spokesman said: “Following reforms to the work capability assessment, which was introduced in 2008, people are getting more tailored support to return to work instead of being written off on long-term sickness benefits as happened too often in the past.”



    September 21, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    • And just what “Improvements” might that be I wonder.

      None of the organizations that monitor this area, are reporting “Improvements”. DWP Twaddle, as to be expected when running scared.


      September 21, 2015 at 9:28 pm

      • Yes and so called more tailored support, since then, sure the tests are tailored to suit them, not the disabled person, and what of the support.


        September 21, 2015 at 9:40 pm

  10. ken

    September 21, 2015 at 11:18 pm

  11. Another update to the above news.

    Daughter of depressed man who took his own life after being declared ‘fit for work’ says DWP system needs an overhaul.

    Michael O’Sullivan took his own life two years ago, but the circumstances of his death are only now casting an uncomfortable shadow on the Government’s controversial “work capability assessment” process.



    September 22, 2015 at 11:58 am

  12. enigma

    September 22, 2015 at 12:07 pm

  13. Just bought 2 small cups of coffee and 2 small cookies in Costa Fortune. £20 fucking knicker!! Fucking outrageous! The UK is like fucking Norwegian prices but without Norwegian wages to match: Norwegian prices and third-world fucking wages. Of course you just swipe one of those fucking ‘contactless’ cards and don’t realise how much you are being ripped off. Imagine handing over a 20 knicker note for a couple of cups of coffee and a couple of cookies!!

    Rip-Off Britain

    September 22, 2015 at 12:54 pm

  14. UK tax and benefit changes worsening inequality, IFS warns.

    IFS has warned the government it risks worsening inequality during workers’ lifetimes by cutting tax credits and reducing income tax rates for the richest.



    September 22, 2015 at 7:24 pm

  15. Scotland To Adopt ‘Fairer Approach To Disability And Carer Benefits’

    A rule that penalises families whose disabled children are in hospital will be abolished, the Scottish Government has announced.



    September 22, 2015 at 7:37 pm

  16. Important advice for families of ‘wrongly’ deceased benefit claimants.

    Last week’s revelation that a coroner directly linked a man’s death to his treatment by the Department for Work and Pensions should make a huge difference – but only if more people who have been affected by our homicidal system act to change it.

    Catalina Devandas Aguilar, the UN Special Rapporteur on the rights of persons with disabilities, is expected to visit the UK in the coming months to spearhead an inquiry into claims that Britain is guilty of ‘grave or systematic violations’ of the rights of the disabled – and anyone who has lost a family member due to a poor work capability assessment is encouraged to contribute to that inquiry.



    September 23, 2015 at 2:16 pm

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