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Eu Migrant Plans to Hit Unemployed Young People as well as Working EU Citizens.

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Young People Again the Target of Tory Discrimination.

EU migrant benefit plan ‘could hit thousands of young Britons’.

Reports the BBC.

Thousands of young Britons could lose the right to claim some benefits for four years as part of government plans to tighten the rules for EU migrants.

Introducing a four-year residency test for migrants is a key part of the UK’s negotiations of its EU membership.

But lawyers say applying such a test to migrants alone would breach EU laws, and the government is now considering extending the rule to all UK benefit applicants, from the age of 18.

Ministers would not discuss the plans.

This is the crunch:

Why are Britons affected?

One option is to implement a four-year residency rule for all benefit claimants. This could mean Britons, even if they had lived in the UK all their lives, from their 18th birthday would be ineligible for the benefits for four years until they reach 22.

The changes would affect working tax credits and housing benefits. About 50,000 UK citizens under the age of 22 receive tax credits. Most of them have children. The proposal is currently being discussed by ministers and senior officials.

The Mirror adds,

Thousands of young people could be blocked from claiming tax credits and housing benefit so the Tories doesn’t have to pay them to EU migrants.

The Government wants to stop people coming to the UK claiming benefits until they’ve lived in the country for four years.

But EU rules prevent governments from discriminating against migrants, so ministers are considering extending the restrictions to British workers between 18 and 22.

It’s thought as many as 50,000 British workers will be affected – many of them young parents.

Labour warned most people would find the restrictions unacceptable.

Shadow work and pensions minister Stephen Timms said the Government should consider adopting the Opposition’s plan to restrict access to benefits for new migrants for two years rather than four years.

He said this would affect fewer people if a lack of treaty change during the renegotiation of the UK’s EU membership meant the restrictions also had to apply to Britons.

According to the BBC, without treaty change – which British officials have previously confirmed may not be in place by the time of the in/out referendum promised by the end of 2017 – the Government has had to consider plans which would extend the ban to Britons to prevent “direct discrimination”.

This is an example of what happens when you start on the path of discriminating between groups of people.

It is worth noting that migrants will be hit when working.

It is unacceptable that one group of workers will get less money than another.

And that’s before we see the knock-on effect on the young.

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  1. Andrew Coates

    August 11, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    • The more people who get to know a few rules and regs the better, as we know the DWP assume we don’t know any.

      enigma

      August 11, 2015 at 12:39 pm

  2. Who dreamt up this little wheeze, I wonder? One of IDS’s bean-counting little bottom lickers, no doubt. Drive more young people off benefits, and throw in a few pesky asylum seekers as well. And you’re home and dry. You get two for the price of one. Can’t be bad!

    jj joop

    August 11, 2015 at 4:17 pm

  3. Does anyone else see the trend here?
    Reduce working tax credits/benefits to current families.
    Remove Tax Credits/benefits for the under 16
    Now, extend the removal to age of 22.
    How long before the age is upped again?

    Gazza

    August 11, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    • Yes the objective: IDS’s private insurance scheme in place of benefits.

      Andrew Coates

      August 11, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    • Yes, next rise to 25 and + as time goes on.

      enigma

      August 11, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    • Theres more older people than the young who appear in the food bank, at the moment, we’ve never run out of food, but If these rules go ahead ………… at the moment there is just one food bank in this town.

      enigma

      August 11, 2015 at 9:09 pm

  4. Introducing a four-year residency test for migrants is a key part of the UK’s negotiations of its EU membership.

    But lawyers say applying such a test to migrants alone would breach EU laws

    Its all discrimination,its doubtful this will ever be excepted whatever the “negotiations”. A two teir system would cause mayhem and risks leaving the UK even further isolated.So called reformers such as Nigel Farage have only caused more ridicule of the UK with confrontation.

    Cameron has acted macho in the EU previously and got a bloddy nose,like Margaret Thatcher made the UK the laughing stock and made no difference.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/david-cameron-slapped-down-by-angela-1087301

    ken

    August 11, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    • This is precisely what I posted a while ago! How long before people in this country are forced to screen for cervical cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer ect?
      Screening programmes are presented as beneficial. Nowhere are harms mentioned. For every woman helped by mammogram, 3 others will have unnecessary treatment because doctors can’t predict what lumps are dangerous or benign.
      In this country gp practices are given incentive payment if they get 80% of their female patients to screen for cervical cancer a complete conflict of interest!!

      kat rehman

      August 12, 2015 at 7:31 pm

      • For more information read the patient paradox by Margaret McCartney

        kat rehman

        August 12, 2015 at 7:34 pm

  5. Unemployment has unexpectedly risen for the second month in a row, according to the Office for National Statistics.

    The number of jobless people across the UK rose by 25,000 between April and June to 1.85 million, the statistics authority said.

    The unemployment rate for the same period was 5.6 per cent, slightly higher than the previous month but down on the same time last year.

    The rise was not expected by most analysts. The second consecutive month of poor performance bucks the trend of rapid falls in jobless numbers during 2014.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/unemployment-unexpectedly-rises-again-for-the-second-month-in-a-row-10451152.html

    Andrew Coates

    August 12, 2015 at 10:52 am

    • Sorry Andrew, didn’t see your comment when posting mine.

      enigma

      August 12, 2015 at 11:07 am

  6. UK unemployment in the April to June period was 1.85 million, up 25,000 from the previous quarter.

    Some 22.76 million people were in full-time work, the ONS said, up 352,000 from a year ago. The number of part-time workers was 8.27 million, little changed from a year earlier.

    The unemployment rate in the UK was highest in the North East (8.1%) of England and lowest in the South West (4.4%).

    Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said: “Thanks to our long term economic plan we have already seen two million more people in jobs since 2010.- sure

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33881387

    enigma

    August 12, 2015 at 11:00 am

    • The Indy is less concerned with soft-soaping the Tories I note!

      Andrew Coates

      August 12, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    • Yes, there is that, meanwhile their plan, what else in it is not yet known. “behind their closed doors”

      enigma

      August 12, 2015 at 6:06 pm

  7. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.

    A6er

    August 12, 2015 at 2:00 pm

  8. Wage Slave

    August 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm

  9. Now their saying the minimum wage is set to high.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33885991

    ken

    August 12, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    • Of course, employers don’t want the rise.

      enigma

      August 12, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    • Ken

      Sorry just spotted you posted earlier.

      Apologies for hijacking your post.

      Gazza

      August 12, 2015 at 5:53 pm

  10. OT: Living wage

    just watched http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33885991

    Where a manager for Holdsworth Packaging Leeds was harping on about the fact that will not be taking on anyone due to the “High Living Wage Costs”, he harped on about a senior person coming in and expecting £20K…

    Er… well we are not talking about senior people, living wage is for ordinary folk, so we can see the twisting of facts starting already.

    Secondly and lastly checking Companies house they have cash of 542K, and are worth 800K…. hmmm so they cannot afford to pay the Living Wage can they? is all the extra cash going to managers I wonder…. hhhhhmmmm

    Gazza

    August 12, 2015 at 5:51 pm

  11. Ann0s

    August 13, 2015 at 10:15 am

  12. sdf

    doug

    August 13, 2015 at 11:50 am

  13. Andrew Coates

    August 13, 2015 at 12:50 pm

  14. Universal Credit is being introduced in the early winter for single people living at home.the emphasis is on single,however if the claim is broken it will (universal Credit) have to be claimed.locally there was no mention of a complete transfer of all claiments.

    An interactive map/tool here for all areas.

    http://ucmap.entitledto.co.uk:8080/geoserver/www/website/map.html

    ken

    August 13, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    • Why is it that homeless people are not covered, are they not the simplest claimant to deal with ?

      doug

      August 13, 2015 at 4:19 pm

  15. I would very much doubt that the I.D.S underlings of some what limited intelligence who thought this scheme up have even taken the trouble to talk to any of the youngsters involved by these proposed changes, I doubt if they even care ; seeing as they are quite happy to have them used as fodder for fraudsters in the form of the so called providers of the Government’s community work programme, well I hope they are reading this because this coming week I intend to approach Thames Valley Police and their Economic crime unit with evidence of significant fraud going on right under the noses of the ineffectual management of Bracknell Job Centre, if you half wits refuse to do anything about it I will. David Anthony Penson

    David Anthony Penson

    August 16, 2015 at 5:27 pm


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