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Iain Duncan Smith in a Pickle – Fibbing, Again!

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Iain Duncan Smith

Iain Duncan Smith: not Waving, but Drowning. 

Only last week Iain Duncan Smith – our Boss at the DWP and ruler of the 35 Hour a Week Jobsearch – made a fool of himself.

Mr Duncan Smith said he had no problem with the increased use of food banks: ‘Most of my colleagues are usually involved with food banks and actually help them.

‘I welcome food banks. I welcome decent people in society trying to help others who may, for various reasons, have fallen into difficulty.

‘I don’t accept the single cause of that is to do with the welfare reforms, quite the contrary.

‘Food bank usage has been rising over a period. It was never part of the British system, but in Germany where their welfare payments you can argue are higher, 1.5 million a week use food banks, much more than they do here.’

Daily Mail.

The Mirror is having harmless good-natured fun at the wealthy toff’s expense today:

Unbeknownst to ISIS we have the deadliest, most poisonous and resolute weapon ever to darken the minds of the human race: Iain Duncan Smith.

And it’s already proven that if you strap a George Osborne to him he can do untold damage in a very carefully targeted manner.

All we need to do is tell him that everyone in ISIS is disabled and could do a proper job if only they could be bothered.

And let Gidiot know that they’re all claiming child benefit and his rich chums know of a way to get even richer if ISIS weren’t around.

And then I think we could pretty much guarantee that ISIS will find its s*** is well and truly f***ed up.

SIS won’t be able to get out of bed, wash, or eat. Their peace of mind and purpose in life will be gone and it’ll only be a matter of time before ISIS are all dead, and while they’ve been starved and tortured Iain and Gideon haven’t been doing it to anyone back here.

Or we can just sit and wait for Dave’s resolve to work its magic. Must be taken twice daily, with a bucket of gin, if you’re to believe that.

But more serious challenges loom on the horizon for the man most people wouldn’t give any credit to, let alone a Universal one.

Vox Political reports (Hat-tip Tobanem).

Conduct complaint over Iain Duncan Smith’s lie to Parliament.

Parliament is to investigate a complaint against Iain Duncan Smith, after he was recorded presenting inaccurate information to fellow MPs in the House of Commons.

Vox Political reader Helen Groves stated in her complaint that she found it “deeply troubling” to hear that a government minister responsible for the welfare of millions of vulnerable people “continually misrepresents” information to other MPs.

She was referring to the Gentleman Ranker’s reply to Debbie Abrahams’ question on June 22. Ms Abrahams had asked: “Why does he refuse to publish the details of the number of people who have died within six weeks of their claims for incapacity benefit and employment and support allowance, including those who have been found fit for work?”

The Secretary-in-a-State replied: ” She knows very well that the Department does not collate numbers on people in that circumstance. It deals with individual cases where things have gone right or gone wrong and reviews them.”

Everybody reading Vox Political knows this to be untrue, as an email from the DWP, dated October 21, 2013, now-famously states: “The Department does hold, and could provide within the cost limit, some of the information requested.”

In her complaint, Ms Groves states: “I feel this calls both his position and the government into disrepute, domestically and internationally, due to his high profile. I can only assume that… Mr Duncan Smith deliberately provided false information.

Rest of the Story here.

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Written by Andrew Coates

June 29, 2015 at 3:51 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    June 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm

  2. ken

    June 29, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    • There is something beyond pathetic in a sixty one year old man cavorting in this unseemly manner.

      Andrew Coates

      June 30, 2015 at 10:03 am

      • “I welcome food banks. I welcome decent people in society trying to help others who may, for various reasons, have fallen into difficulty” because we would rather have other people take care of human beings while we abolish the welfare system.

        enigma

        June 30, 2015 at 10:21 am

  3. People have differing views on Food banks but I personally cannot think of anything more degrading than having to ask, humbly, for tins of macaroni cheese and baked beans.

    Andrew Coates

    June 30, 2015 at 10:44 am

    • It is a sad state of affairs people have to resort to food banks because of what is happening in this and every society, I have seen many people in tears when in the local food bank, it sure is degrading, some people just can’t believe it’s really happening, to them. it’s only going to get worse, as we know.

      enigma

      June 30, 2015 at 10:58 am

  4. What benefit will be next to go.

    Tuesday is the last day of the Independent Living Fund. But what is it and who will be affected?

    Started in 1988, the Independent Living Fund (ILF) has provided financial support to people with disabilities across the UK.

    From Wednesday, 1 July, it will no longer exist in England, while Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have made different plans for the fund.

    ILF users in England have been protesting since the closure was announced in 2010.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-33260877

    enigma

    June 30, 2015 at 10:50 am

  5. Andrew Coates

    June 30, 2015 at 10:57 am

  6. Death By A Thousand Cuts (the tory plan)

    Although and rightly so, many a person especially a tory sycophant will say its hardly the same thing, it would be hard for them to avoid the obvious, that being how the punishment formed three levels to attain prefecture,

    1: Public Humiliation = Propagandised as Scroungers, Feckless, Workshy, Uneducated and more.

    2: Slow And Lingering Death = Sanctions, benefit Closure, False Fraud Allegations, Hit Squads, Made To Work For Free even when Sanctioned, Schemes that continually only achieve a third of success, Skills Conditionality courses even when better educated and hold more qualifications than the member of staff putting them forward, looking to subject claimants to various medical treatments without there Expressed Consent as required under British Law and More.

    3: Punishment After Death = Withholding and attempting to manipulate figures of claimants they have sanctioned who have then gone on to take there lives as a direct result, Our Prime Minister snubbed one lost soul in his very own constituency.

    The Mirror might mock the prime minister and his party but nothing serves the future electorate better than the fettered TRUTH.

    A truth that sees the poor, the infirm, the young, the foreign pay the ultimate price for his Oxford and Cambridge generations ill-gotten greed for money and power.

    There NOT the Wealth Creators and the public only have to down tools to see it with there very own eyes.

    “LET THIS NOT BE REINCARNATE”

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 10:59 am

    • My post contains 2 pictures so if you find a sign in the top one, simply click on it to see the censored picture.

      gaia

      June 30, 2015 at 11:02 am

  7. DIRTY TRICKS – DECEPTION AND REPUTATION DESTRUCTION

    “…Secret agencies control, infiltrate, manipulate and warp online discourse, and in so doing, are compromising the integrity of the Internet itself…”

    https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/how-covert-agents-infiltrate-the-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-and-destroy-reputations-glenn-greenwald/

    Dissedent

    June 30, 2015 at 11:04 am

  8. Is it me or do you find it odd and a little creepy when posts such as Dissedents just seem to appear out of the blue at the dare I say it, somewhat rather dubious moments ?

    Now im not suggesting there post is intentional or that it isn’t born out of genuine concern but it is disconcerting when the poster is completely unknown to the forum they post and could in this unfortunates case see them viewed as the conspirator they purport to warn us against.

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 11:27 am

    • The same thing happens now and again as we all see, after posing them they often don’t return to post anything else, but it may be as I often do post something without putting in my view of what I post, so some people assume I agree with what I post when in fact they assume wrong. I see Dissedents comment as warning us all.

      enigma

      June 30, 2015 at 1:00 pm

  9. The following video loop is amusing.

    But is this the future of the unemployed – already herded like cattle – if they escape from the “Jobsearch Prison” pursued by the police and a man with a big stick?

    http://www.scotsman.com/videoimage/4329890253001

    Tobanem

    June 30, 2015 at 11:31 am

    • Sorry Tobanem but im only getting a very small still picture instead of this looping video you mention.

      Any chance of a repost ?

      gaia

      June 30, 2015 at 11:36 am

      • Yes, “gaia”, try the second link.

        I haven’t stopped laughing!!!

        Tobanem

        June 30, 2015 at 11:38 am

      • Sadly I get a blank player but hey ho, I still get the joke though.

        gaia

        June 30, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    • Like Tobabem I couldn’t get the link but just the mention of Jobsearch Prison brings back less than funny memories of my time on schemes.

      Andrew Coates

      June 30, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      • The funny part of the looping video is the escaped herd of cows running through a built-up area, followed by the police van in hot pursuit, and then the frantic chase by a desperate farmer on foot dressed in a cap and Wellingtons – and wielding a big stick!

        If you locate “The Scotsman” newspaper on the following link, and look for the video report on “Runaway cows in West Lothian”, you should get the hilarious footage.

        Clearly, it would not be funny to be sent to a jobsearch prison – although it might be fun to plot an escape from one!

        http://www.scotsman.com/

        Tobanem

        June 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    • Well highlighted jj joop and even though ive only mentioned it in passing from time to time, lets cover this,

      ONLY WHERE THE LAW ALLOWS US TO.

      Claimants will find this is section 4 of the data protection act, titled exemptions.

      It covers,

      1: National security
      2: Crime and Taxation
      3: Health, Education and Social work
      4: Regulatory activity
      5: Journalism, Literature and Art
      6: Research, History and Statistics
      7: Manual Data held by public authorities
      8: Information available to the public by or under Enactment
      9: Disclosures required by law or made in connection with legal proceedings etc
      10: Parliamentary privilege
      11: Domestic purposes
      12: Miscellaneous exemptions
      13: Powers to make further exemptions by order
      14: Transitional relief

      Now some are subsets, additional and covers but this is exactly what is implied when your government or there departments, even businesses quote the above.

      It would be no doubt fortunate to explore this topic but as to put in context would well be on its way to writing a book I shall make no attempt at this current juncture to send you all to sleep. If it helps any though, numbers 2,3,4,6 and 8 are favourites of you know who.

      gaia

      June 30, 2015 at 1:15 pm

      • Have you ever wrote a book Gaia or ever thought of doing so.

        enigma

        June 30, 2015 at 1:29 pm

      • My standard of English just isn’t good enough for me to be capable of such a feat enigma.
        While my spelling and sentence constructs generally are ok for posts online, they would fail to make any competency when tackling the actual practice of producing a piece of work such as you describe.

        gaia

        June 30, 2015 at 5:27 pm

  10. The other day members of this site posted some very kind words to me for which I am very much grateful and thank them all kindly.

    Im not going to desert this site or the causes we all are fighting, im in it to the bitter end whether we win or lose.

    I apologise as I should have worded my last post better but so as to correct the situation, the only thing I wont be doing from now on is linking to anymore news media stories as they like our politicians and welfare private sector are profiting from our misery.

    Sure they aid the cause but as im sure the aware will agree, it always seems to be the labour loving papers that do it by far and large.

    Well that’s all I wanted to say so once again I truly thank all those for there kind comments, that will not go unforgotten.

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 12:01 pm

  11. Play that funky music white boy

    As if any need telling it still appears the Tories didn’t get the memo on there own spin. If the obvious 220Bn welfare ploy quite literally the other day wasn’t mention enough to there predicament, you would think by now there own health department would stump up the ramifications of the effects of centrifugal force on the body.

    Quite clearly carrying the fallout of dizziness, the Tories lurch from one comeuppance after the next as they just released the notion that half of Britain is welfare dependant.

    Now im not quite sure whether the Tories intend to advertise to the rest of the world that Britain’s about to become the largest mental healthcare clinic on the planet and is open for business or that there polices cant dent the global tragedy that besets us all but if one thing is certain, the tory ship has begun to creek under the weight of reality.

    Now as much as I appreciate the odd white lie can serve as a band aid from time to time, placebos aren’t the best tonic when running a country in the worst time ever recorded since the dawn of man and it appears organisations and the press are simply no longer in the mood to tolerate it either.

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 2:00 pm

  12. HILARIOUS VIDEO

    http://www.scotsman.com/

    Look for video link to “Runaway cows in West Lothian”

    Tobanem

    June 30, 2015 at 4:21 pm

  13. Poorest fifth of the population lost 37.8 per cent of their income to the taxman last year, while richest fifth paid 34.8 per cent – a wider gap than previous year.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-poor-are-paying-a-bigger-proportion-of-tax-than-the-rich-and-the-gap-is-widening-10353954.html

    enigma

    June 30, 2015 at 4:34 pm

  14. It appears apart from avoiding a certain suicide let alone all benefit related suicides, the Prime Minister David Cameron has been ignoring a foodbank situated not far from his very own backyard.

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 6:16 pm

  15. If I told you a north east hospital setup its very own food bank to help cash-strapped working parents to visit their premature babies and that it was a joint venture between hospital and social workers, would you believe me ?

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    • I can imagine that happening yes, as there is one setup in a school which Kat told us about and the fact that the number of people needing food will increase.

      enigma

      June 30, 2015 at 6:56 pm

      • Yes, sadly the school I work in is in one of the most deprived areas of our town, and we have a very high proportion of kids on free school meals, and they qualify for free breakfast club, fruit and milk. We also have a spare clothes bin for kids whose clothing is dirty or ill fitting and I believe a couple of kids have made use of the shower outside of PE. Some kids will have 3rd helpings of extras at lunch if there’s left over food. It’s utterly heart breaking. How can you expect these kids to have any respect or interest in society when it treats them and their families in this way??

        kat rehman

        June 30, 2015 at 7:10 pm

      • There is only the one food bank in this town, I know another will be setup either later this year or early next. the same thing may be happening in schools here, I don’t know though, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were.

        enigma

        June 30, 2015 at 7:30 pm

      • And whilst suffering from hunger, depression and homelessness all are expected to be obedient. it is no wonder people do what they do.

        enigma

        June 30, 2015 at 7:46 pm

  16. Liz Kendall Vows To Scrap Hated Work Programme

    http://www.welfareweekly.com/liz-kendall-vows-to-scrap-hated-work-programme/

    Here one provider has shut up shop(another one) leaving those without “support”,Talking to some they never did offer any support in the first place,to another area which has traditionally been a good employment area anyway many miles away.

    Basically their chasing the money.There doesn’t appear to be anything in place to stop these cowboys just walking away on a whim without any responsibility no regard or consideration for people they are supposed to be helping.

    This group are being handed more and more taxpayers money still.

    ken

    June 30, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    • Amazing, after the failed flexi new deal that scored no higher than the current tory one and labour still think they can make a difference without putting the boot in on employers.

      Still with European funds getting strangled, it could still be over soon enough anyway as I cant imagine the taxpayer will foot the bill and we all know the payment on results part wont keep these companies afloat.

      gaia

      June 30, 2015 at 10:04 pm

  17. Another Fine Mess

    June 30, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    • Im not surprized as tax credit is a joke, when im working I never claim it, its just not worth the hassle and that’s under the current system as it is now.

      gaia

      June 30, 2015 at 10:14 pm

  18. Nicky Morgan the education secretary makes Gove seem like a well adjusted individual.

    The crazy moron thinks she can fight terrorism in the class room. She’s a true tory alright as she still refuses to answer the question on what happens to academies that fail besides saying a replacement of who’s in charge. Funny as whys that not an option for public schools.

    Smells of privatisation or what and considering how the railway and water went to shit, I cant see how education wont end up following the same path.

    gaia

    June 30, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    • Yeah, if any kids so much as utter a ‘trigger’ word they are to be reported to the cops! WTF!

      Heatwave

      June 30, 2015 at 11:16 pm

      • Or ‘question homosexuality’ – seriously!

        Heatwave

        June 30, 2015 at 11:17 pm

  19. A lot of unusual radio interference at the moment – think there might be a storm brewing 😀

    Ant Enna

    June 30, 2015 at 11:26 pm

  20. The commissioners report to the united nations set to stick the boot in on tory welfare cuts to help fight against escalating child poverty.

    I fully expect the Tories to lie through there teeth again, probably hiding behind fudged figures no doubt or comparing it to ones absolutely decades ago which quite frankly are immaterial as we are in the here and now, not the yester years.

    Honestly I ask you, how can it all be on the name of making work pay when we all still cant get one that actually does.

    No man can put you on firmer ground while busying themselves removing it from beneath you.

    gaia

    July 1, 2015 at 1:55 am

  21. “I don’t accept the single cause of that is to do with the welfare reforms”

    No one said that there was a single cause of food banks!

    Seems Duncan-Smith is besotted with the ‘Straw Man’ !

    Welfare Central

    July 1, 2015 at 5:17 am

    • Hmmm, so why do we need to make work pay again Mr Duncan Smith ?

      Why is it your party is reducing public expenditure again Mr Duncan Smith ?

      Why do we have a debt again Mr Duncan Smith ?

      There is only ever one single fundamental cause of poverty.

      gaia

      July 1, 2015 at 9:55 am

      • Oh, silly me,

        Why is it we have to pull our belts in again Mr Duncan Smith ?

        gaia

        July 1, 2015 at 10:41 am

      • Oppps, super silly me,

        If we put aside the word term work just for a moment Mr Duncan Smith, why is it your not in poverty again ?

        gaia

        July 1, 2015 at 10:45 am

  22. UNACCEPTABLE FACE OF CAPITALISM

    “Failed tycoon who took his own life ‘after killing wife and teenage daughter’ owed £80,000, had defaulted on his mortgage and left a string of collapsed firms behind him”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3144387/Detectives-link-deaths-mother-47-14-year-old-daughter-Surrey-home-man-dead-southern-France.html

    Tobanem

    July 1, 2015 at 8:00 am

  23. Jeremy Hunt calls for national debate about caring for the elderly.

    Many people in Britain now lead such “atomised lives” that they do not have “any idea” when their elderly relatives are ill or dying, the Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, will warn.

    In a stark call for the public to take more responsibility for the care of elderly relatives and neighbours, Mr Hunt will say that local authority care and the National Health Service cannot alone shoulder the burden of looking after the elderly. And he will call for a new “national conversation” about how the elderly are looked after in Britain, compared with those in other countries where multi-generational households are much more common.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/jeremy-hunt-calls-for-national-debate-about-caring-for-the-elderly-10356475.html

    enigma

    July 1, 2015 at 8:43 am

    • You would think being human, Jeremy Hunt could draw from his own experiences, I mean he did have a mother and father right, well until 2013 that is.

      If he has to draw from other countries then I have to wonder what personal care he afforded his own as if this is some self reflective guilt trip then he should be ashamed of himself on attempting to make us pay for his own transgressions.

      If one thinks about this it certainly does tick 3 boxes that are a current problem to his party, the now government so its hard not to see this as yet another cost saving exercise.

      If this is indeed true or transpires as such then the Tories have hit a new hard to top low in attempting to guilt trick us.

      gaia

      July 1, 2015 at 9:14 am

  24. “It also calls for measures aimed at “boosting labour force participation.” This means making available new sources of cheap labour by forcing those on disability or other forms of pensions back into the workforce as their entitlements are slashed.

    The report does not spell out how such measures—which are already being implemented in all the major economies—are to be intensified, other than saying that it will be “politically difficult.” The difficulties refer to the fact that their imposition is fundamentally incompatible with the maintenance of any kind of democratic regime.”

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/01/pers-j01.html

    Annos

    July 1, 2015 at 8:55 am

    • Crazy loud but not crazy mad Max Keiser and the likes have been banging on about this for ages now so to the informed this is nothing new and yes very apparent.

      There’s to many stories, to many belief structures citing the worlds financial woes as pure myth, that by printing money out of thin air will make all things as they once were.

      The fallacy is and has been in denying the evidence as ask yourself why when these people already have more wealth than they will ever spend would they require more.

      Why the rush to bulk on natural resources, fight like children over business ventures on the net so as to stifle the normal folks chances of joining them, what exactly is it they see ahead.

      Don’t stop at this article, look into the buying of debt, how governments gift as though like a welfare benefit billions every single god damn year to banks.

      Whether you wish to or not accept, capitalism and money has reached its expiry date and now works in reverse seeing the very thing that backs money become the domineering common theme.

      How on earth we wont see another 2007 crash has yet to be explained or even attempted by those who conspire to commit it or purport to protect us from it.

      You have to look at this like a pebble being dropped into a pond, with the poorest at the epicentre and the richest at the end. Notice how dependant on height, the ring moves out and were it dissipates as this is precisely why some feel it now why others remain blissfully unaware.

      Now imagine dropping a heavy rock from a great height into the same pond, see how you have no choice but to be pushed to the furthest most area. This is what’s known as bottom to top in financial and economical terms, a far cry yes, from the phrase trickle down we constantly hear all the time.

      I said a long while back the world would change in a way it would never recover, I and others still stand by those words.

      gaia

      July 1, 2015 at 9:47 am

      • You can put that video up again Tobanem as I believe its very apt at this precise juncture.

        gaia

        July 1, 2015 at 9:48 am

  25. Andrew Coates

    July 1, 2015 at 9:52 am

  26. “We have to live within our means” they say,

    “Wages will rise, the UK will flourish once more, we will have a country were everyone works and isn’t dependant on the public purse they say”.

    If that’s true then, if the Tories are so certain then why are we cutting back, surely what with all that prosperity we will all have in our very own pockets, its just a matter of waiting, surely we will all be paying enough taxes and NI to cover the expenditure and start to pay down on our national debt ?

    I don’t know about you but it sounds like doubt to me, a weakness I would have thought no government would dare show if they wished to remain in office (point of reference Chamberlain). But hey they haven’t come out directly and said it now have they ?

    So someone tell me, why do we spin things again ?

    Lets run with this tory picture shall we, lets zoom forward to a time where public expenditure is low, our debt is paid off and then what ?

    Now capitalism is a pretty easy system to grasp, for every winner there must be a loser so somewhere on this planet will be a country in complete contrast to us.

    So instantly we must give them aid, surely if we had any love we wouldn’t turn our back on them now there wealth has all gone, there natural resources depleted.

    But wait, there’s no return here, its a one way street money venture from here on out.

    We could always mask the problem by sharing it amongst over successful countries, you know form a united front, wait a minute we’ve already done that, Hmmm, what to do ?

    I know lets vilify a group, lets blame them and take the light off ourselves, what will work, oh I know, lets scare the people, lets tell them there life is in mortal danger.

    I could go on but I think you get the general theme here.

    “The planet is like a cake, when all its crumbs are consumed there can only be one result”.

    gaia

    July 1, 2015 at 10:37 am

  27. Lastly we all know climate is an apparent issue, I don’t mean all that humans are responsible stuff, put that to one side just for the sake of this final piece.

    So renewable energy is our future, ok, lets look at PV solar shall we.

    Nice looking stuff yes, improving yes, but wait,

    How many sunny days do we get in the UK = 50 to 60 days a year from 365.

    What’s the difference between a sunny day and a cloudy one in term of lumens = 85’000 Lumens.

    Now what makes a panel = rare earth elements

    Who has the largest deposit of rare earth elements = China

    What does and has China done about there market of rare earth elements = I wont spoil all your fun so look it up.

    Theres way way more to this renewable energy thing, not all bad but none the less say in the UKs case certainly does make Scotland look an awful lot more important.

    gaia

    July 1, 2015 at 11:06 am

  28. Andrew Coates

    July 1, 2015 at 11:38 am

  29. It should be made illegal for supermarkets to throw away perfectly edible food, a group of MPs has said.

    A parliamentary motion calling on the Government to force businesses to donate food approaching its best-before date to charity has so far been signed by 117 representatives.

    MPs argue that a successful law could be based off a new rule brought in by the French government.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/it-should-be-made-illegal-for-supermarkets-to-throw-away-perfectly-edible-food-mps-say-10357406.html

    enigma

    July 1, 2015 at 12:08 pm

  30. Understaffing in prisons in England and Wales could be a factor in suicides among inmates, a review has concluded.

    The independent report made 108 recommendations and studied the deaths of four children, and 83 adults aged 18 to 24, from 2007 to 2013

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33346672

    enigma

    July 1, 2015 at 1:15 pm

  31. IDS thinks he can change reality, again.

    The definition of child poverty will be changed, Iain Duncan Smith has announced as the government attacked the current measurement as “deeply flawed”.

    Child poverty will no longer be defined as 60 per cent of the average income but through a series of indicators including exam results and whether parents are in work.

    Mr Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, said the new approach was designed to bring about “meaningful change” in children’s life chances.

    However the Labour Party attacked it as the “obituary for compassionate conservatism” and said action rather than changing definitions was needed to tackle child poverty.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11710995/Child-poverty-definition-changed-by-Iain-Duncan-Smith.html

    enigma

    July 1, 2015 at 1:48 pm

  32. Now pitch in here if you think ive got it wrong but how does changing a measurement, change poverty exactly ?

    It seems to me this is more about saving face in front of other political parties while attempting to maintain an electorate than it has remotely anything to do with addressing child poverty.

    You hear all this indicator stuff but again it seems to raise more questions than answers, one poignant one being what if the new system purports less than the original count under the current measurement system when starting out.

    Then there’s this debt measurement, has Ian Duncan Smith forgot what his think tank the Centre for Social Justice stated back in 2013.

    http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/publications/maxed-out

    Infact if you look at the latest one

    http://centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/publications/restoring-the-balance-tackling-problem-debt

    Your find this isn’t actually tory mantra but the think tanks very own agenda quite literally word for word.

    Im all for change but its hard to see a silver lining that didn’t cost something like social inclusion or social protection for example that cost more than all the other benefits combined while increasing year on year while the others have fallen and thus making this 12Bn cut all the harder to achieve while addressing such issues when it accounts for 79% of all the welfare expenditure.

    If we left these two groups alone, it would mean cutting family and children, unemployment and housing by exactly half no matter how that’s achieved over the next five years. I don’t think it can be done without hitting the two other groups somewhere.

    All im going to say is, “you mask what you cant cover”, think about it, think long and hard about it.

    gaia

    July 1, 2015 at 4:58 pm

  33. With the rising cost of living outstripping wage increases, many families are finding it tough to make ends meet and to put a meal on the table every day. For more and more people, the only option is to rely on a food bank.

    thinkmoney worked with 70 independent food banks to uncover the growing strain they face, as rising numbers of people turn to them for help.

    http://www.thinkmoney.co.uk/news-advice/rising-food-poverty-in-the-UK-0-4532-0.htm

    enigma

    July 1, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    • Had an interesting conversation with my sister today.

      She’s got temp work at a council, lady she’s covering for is on £12 an hour, as is her partner.

      It seems they are just hanging on by their fingertips to the dwelling they are in – they COULD not afford private accomodation.

      Now this is typical for the area I live in, London – when the changes come in next year april for tax credits and what not – how long before things crash? I suspect things will get bad very very quick – weeks, not months as it has in the past. People are too stretched financially.

      The ecomony is on a knife edge due to the policies of the ConParty and GuidIdiot and all it’ll take to bring the eddifice down is the wrong slate falling from the wrong roof, at the wrong time.

      Gazza

      July 1, 2015 at 11:49 pm

      • yes, we can see many things getting out of control, with the services that people need not being there, and of course millions more appearing at food banks, anyone who doesn’t think so isn’t living in reality.

        enigma

        July 2, 2015 at 9:14 am

  34. The Conservative government’s policies risk systematically stripping children of their rights, a report for the United Nations has found.

    Anassessment by the four children’s commissioners of the UK, the first full-scale review for seven years, called on the government to reconsider its deep welfare cuts, voiced “serious concerns” about children being denied access to justice in the courts, and called on ministers to rethink plans to repeal the Human Rights Act.

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/01/government-stripping-uk-children-rights-report-un

    enigma

    July 1, 2015 at 9:40 pm

  35. “There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men”

    Remind you of anything?

    Oh, in case you are wondering where these wise words come from, they come from The Bible – Proverbs chapter 30, verse 14.

    Tobanem

    July 2, 2015 at 7:26 am

  36. Sickness benefit shake-up considered

    Plans to scrap part of the UK’s main sickness benefit are being considered, a leaked Whitehall paper suggests.
    It describes the Employment and Support Allowance as a “passive” benefit which does not “incentivise” people to find a job, and proposes abolishing the work-related activity group (WRAG) category.
    If scrapped, weekly payments would drop nearly £30 from £102.15, bringing it in line with Jobseeker’s Allowance.
    The Department for Work and Pensions said it did not comment on leaks.
    The government is seeking to save £12bn from its welfare bill.
    It is expected next week’s Budget will unveil only some of its proposed cuts, with others to be announced in the autumn spending review.

    Fit for work?
    The paper seen by BBC News was written by the Department for Work and Pensions before the general election in May.
    It is marked “not government policy”, but the BBC understands the proposals are still under consideration.
    About two million people in the UK receive the Employment and Support Allowance, in some form.
    It is paid out to disabled or sick people who are unable to work or need help getting back to work.
    Currently, people undergo a fit-for-work test to decide how their illness or disability affects their ability to work.
    If eligible for the benefit, they are placed in either the WRAG category, and must prepare for employment, or a support group category and are not expected to work.
    Those who do not meet the criteria may be given Jobseeker’s Allowance of up to £73.10 a week instead.

    ‘Millions saved’
    The paper also proposes renaming the assessment tests “employment capability assessments”, rather than work capability assessments, in order to focus attention on job-seeking, not benefit-seeking.
    It says removing the £30 top-up for WRAG claimants would give people less reason to worry that they were getting the “wrong” outcome from their assessment.
    The tests would identify claimants’ strengths, rather than focus on what they could not do, and would be carried out much sooner in the application process, the paper says.
    Under the plans, the government could save hundreds of millions of pounds by the end of the decade, the paper says.
    Charlie Pickles from Reform, a think tank focusing on public service delivery that was co-founded by Conservative MP Nick Herbert, said the current system encourages people to stay on the benefit rather than finding work.
    “We have a huge gap between disabled people’s employment rate and non-disabled people’s employment rate and if you are building in perverse incentives, within a benefit system, then you are encouraging people to move onto that benefit,” he said.
    Ministers are also understood to be considering changes to the support group category of the Employment and Support Allowance, with a possible announcement in the 8 July Budget.
    A spokesman for the Department of Work and Pensions said: “This is speculation based on documents leaked before the election. We do not comment on leaked documents.”

    BBC News

    July 2, 2015 at 7:46 am

    • Yes, the leaked report confirms the wise words from The Biblical quote above.

      Tobanem

      July 2, 2015 at 7:59 am

    • The DWP doesn’t need to comment on the leaked doc, they have already admitted that their plan will go ahead.

      enigma

      July 2, 2015 at 8:58 am

      • Which we will all see next Wednesday!

        We’ve already had Black Friday, Mad Friday, Mad Monday etc. I wonder what next Wednesday will be called?

        Tobanem

        July 2, 2015 at 9:10 am

  37. The welfare budget in brief

    In 2015-6, spending on benefits, pensions and tax credits is expected to total £220bn
    State pensions and age-related benefits, such as winter fuel allowance and free TV licences, will account for £95bn
    Child tax credits and working tax credits – £30bn
    Housing benefit – £26bn
    Disability and incapacity benefits – £37bn
    Child benefit – £12bn
    Pension credit – £6bn
    Jobseekers Allowance and income support – £5bn

    Source: Institute for Fiscal Studies

    BBC News

    July 2, 2015 at 8:33 am


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