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UNEMPLOYED IN TYNE & WEAR

> From Eowyn Rohan

Hi….The Job Centre is rolling out Digital Signing Tablets. For those who do not know, the Tablets are voluntary at the moment, and whereas Job Centre may ask you to provide a Digital Signature, and may encourage you to sign up, the service is voluntary, and it is a matter for the candidate whether they sign up or not without any fear of sanction, loss of benefits or benefit claim terminated.

Have a look at for guidance
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/requirement_to_give_biometric_si

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Written by Andrew Coates

May 28, 2015 at 10:01 am

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  1. We’re giving everyone the chance to get on

    Welfare reforms and Universal Credit will change the country’s attitude to benefits, says the Work and Pensions Secretary

    Five years ago, when I was named Work and Pensions Secretary, I embarked on a once-in-a-lifetime process of transforming this country’s welfare state. From the depths of the great recession, we started on a journey to bring in a system that would finally reward work and better support people during difficult times; a system that would not only function more efficiently and deliver necessary savings, but also fundamentally change the lives of people who use it for the better.

    Earlier this month the Prime Minister asked me to continue this journey, signalling our one-nation Government’s commitment to bringing real change to the welfare state. As the country’s economy grows and employment rises, we have the opportunity to ensure that people not only have jobs to go to, but also a clear path to fulfilling lives and independence from the state.

    The Full Employment and Welfare Benefits Bill in the Queen’s Speech shows our commitment to making Britain the best place in the world to work

    Plenty more nonsense to read and a lot of comments.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11633881/Were-giving-everyone-the-chance-to-get-on.html

    enigma

    May 28, 2015 at 8:39 pm

      • Mr Duncan Smith presented no evidence to establish that the households had found work because their benefits had been cut, however.

        enigma

        May 28, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    • I see what you mean about the comments, its a left right right battle fest. There so busy slagging each other off, there not even talking about the article anymore.

      Neither side seems to understand stats let alone the point of researching the source material. I hate to say but there all cherry picking.

      I particularly liked where one of them attempted to justify tax avoidance as not fraud when fraud or even theft is an act carried out irrespective of the instance it finds itself in. I agree that everyone does it but none the less it still doesn’t mean its not fraud.

      For example many companies sink profits into unsold stock to lower taxes which if the person was to declare exactly as I just said it would indeed be liable for fraud. The only reason it isn’t is because the companies never say it so how do you prove that was the original intent.

      Tax avoidance as its labelled is the preverbal squirrel getting the nut and as crazy as it may sound what the large companies are doing is infact proportional to an SME, its only because they make billions that it looks as bad.

      If there’s one thing IDS has said I feel is correct, is that people attitudes and ethics have to change. Where I depart from his speech however is that includes everyone as much as I don’t want to be the doom crier, if it doesn’t we will in time be the cause of either our own extinction or damn near it, meaning we have to if we survive, evolve all over again which despite having knowledge is a whole lot harder than simply changing our ways.

      gaia

      May 28, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      • Yes, many people will have only two choices, it’s one or the other, those Tories in the comments talking as they do will one day change for we know millions will be laid off and as you said in recent post, those people will join the anti austerity side.

        As we know, most people in full time employment or those who have a career don’t think that they will ever be unemployed.

        enigma

        May 28, 2015 at 10:18 pm

      • Just like those electronic signing pads, at the moment the use of is voluntary.

        enigma

        May 28, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    • I assume ids is talking out of his rear end from narnia. I’m no better off doing 31 hours then when I did 18. The excess means I pay more rent and I’m not entitled to council tax support!!

      kat rehman

      May 29, 2015 at 11:38 am

  2. Cameron threatens to quit the EU if they make his dummy fall out.

    In his speech alongside the French president, Cameron said, “they do agree on something”, (sorry im laughing right about now) and then went on to say, “we both have issues”.

    Now maybe its just me but is that the only common ground he could come up with, talk about bottom of the barrel.

    I don’t know about you but the French president didn’t look very happy to me but then again he did say, “he doesn’t approve of this à la carte approach to the European Union that David Cameron appears to advocate”.

    Hes off to Germany tomorrow, hopefully he will take a wrong turn and end up in the Ukraine.

    gaia

    May 28, 2015 at 8:50 pm

  3. Another Fine Mess

    May 28, 2015 at 8:59 pm

  4. what does the rss feed include ? ill stick it on my site

    super ted

    May 28, 2015 at 9:00 pm

  5. The BBC has defended a new TV reality show pitting unemployed and low-paid workers against each other for a cash prize, which has been accused of echoing film the Hunger Games, arguing it is a “serious social experiment”.

    The show, called Britain’s Hardest Grafter, is seeking 25 of Britain’s poorest workers with applications limited to those who earn or receive benefits totalling less than £15,500 a year.

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/28/bbc-defends-reality-show-involving-poor-dubbed-hunger-games

    enigma

    May 28, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    • It would make more sense to spend the time helping the 25 find proper full-time paid employment, but that would reveal the real problem wouldn’t it.

      Another Fine Mess

      May 28, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    • Sounds yet another benefit street.

      The corporation says that the series will “tackle some of the most pressing issues of our time” including why British productivity is so low, is the benefits system providing many with a reason not to work, do immigrants work harder and have the young really not got the work ethic of their parents.

      enigma

      May 28, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    • There logic for its existence is floored as if say the unemployed haven’t been active it will give the impression that there slower or lazy when all it is, is that there time clocks have changed so expedience isn’t a consideration. Then theres what sort of jobs will they get presented with?

      Will they cliché around care work, retail, warehouse, etc.

      Like stats its still subject to how the data is used so unless this is fully embraced, we will just end up with more crap like channel 4s.

      Im not defending this show but I would say its hard even hypocritical to have ago if the person use to watch shows like big brother.

      gaia

      May 29, 2015 at 12:17 am

  6. ok done it now and working 😉

    super ted

    May 28, 2015 at 9:37 pm

  7. I can remember a time when the commentary on this website was related to the posting. But not any more,apparently.

    Parker Pyne

    May 29, 2015 at 6:54 am

  8. BBC uncovers ‘aggressive’ tax avoidance scheme pitched to recruitment agencies employing low earners.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32914372

    I spoke a while back about best connections tax avoidance scheme I uncovered so it appears there probably all at it.

    If it isn’t bad enough that DWP exploit claimants it only gets worse as low earners are used as tools to carryout tax avoidance,

    https://www.gov.uk/employment-allowance

    On this link to the governments very own site it says in a picture, “come in we’re open”, I say oh yes you are as well done Tories for creating another tax loophole that aids employers while employees struggle to make ends meet.

    Labour said employees were £1600 worse off under the coalition yet on this one scam alone employers are making an extra £400 ontop.

    With low earners already not paying any tax and national insurance (allowance before tax and NI) dew to low hours and rates coupled with HMRC obviously not getting enough revenue from employers I cant see how the Tories can possibly gain a deficit surplus in five years.

    I ask you is it any wonder so many got employed as opposed to other depressions in history. Dont get me wrong im all for governments keeping more in an employees pockets but if government continue to take low revenue we all will only trade one problem for another which can only lead to higher taxes which if at a time of inflation will be very painful indeed.

    Just remember the money from the global crash didn’t simply disappear, it ended up in the pockets of the worlds wealthy so if they just gave it back, this whole sorry mess since 2007 would go away. The wealthy don’t make money by not knowing about it so the notion they didn’t know simply isn’t the case.

    gaia

    May 29, 2015 at 8:22 am

    • Whats next, the tory government will blame low earners for proliferating the opportunity for employers to engage tax avoidance ?

      They blamed Labour instead of the banks.

      gaia

      May 29, 2015 at 8:27 am

    • It’s good to know that those agencies are now under the spotlight for both tax avoidance and exploitation of people.

      enigma

      May 29, 2015 at 1:28 pm

  9. Jail terms under ‘legal highs’ blanket law

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32919712

    Funny how alcohol, tobacco, caffeine and food and medical products isn’t included, especially when you consider the first two are the biggest burden on the NHS or so they claim.

    Secondly doesn’t it just contradict the notion and idea the Tories have of penalising claimants who have drug and or alcohol problems that refuse treatment ?

    Is this law not saying its ok to drink and smoke ?

    gaia

    May 29, 2015 at 8:37 am

    • Glad that caffeine is still on the “allowed” list – just spunked 50 smackers on an expresso maker from Lidl the other day 😀 Yeah, know it will be in the back of the cupboard in a couple of weeks but couldn’t resist a new toy 😀

      Cappo Chino

      May 29, 2015 at 7:12 pm

      • Most of the bargin gadgets that lidl sell fall to bits in five minutes.
        I always think that’s why they have a big waste bin by the exit – it saves you the bother of having to carrying home the junk you’ve just bought.

        Another Fine Mess

        May 29, 2015 at 9:52 pm

  10. Murder weapon discovered in Imperial War Museum display

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32919223

    And all this under a conservative government no less, ah john major, the very same prime minister that brought in the Citizen’s Charter, Maastricht Treaty, Back to Basics (campaign), Downing Street Declaration, Black Wednesday.

    Sound like one of the driver characters to a certain current governments play book ?

    gaia

    May 29, 2015 at 9:07 am

  11. Smoking ban in England ‘cuts child hospital admissions’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32918513

    You don’t hear the tories mention that labour gem when banging on about the NHS do you.

    gaia

    May 29, 2015 at 9:09 am

  12. North Korean hackers ‘could kill’, warns key defector

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32925495

    Notice how its not can, not will but could, fear mongering or what ?

    gaia

    May 29, 2015 at 9:12 am

    • Yet another – for the snoopers charter

      enigma

      May 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    • The sooner we do EVERYTHING online the better, IBS said so.

      Another Fine Mess

      May 29, 2015 at 3:42 pm

  13. Latest work programme statistics makes good reading (Dec 2014).

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/work-programme-statistical-summary-data-to-31-december-2014

    Your probably be shocked by what you read but I doubt your be surprized.

    gaia

    May 29, 2015 at 9:57 am

  14. I am a lone voice, also apparently.

    Parker Pyne

    May 29, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    • So what about this electronic signing then parker pyne as its sort of neither here nor there and to be honest this advice to abstain is all wrong if claimants want to see the backside of them.

      As Ive experienced and would imagine others have, this pad fails a claimants signature so is slow and inefficient. What it proves is if you change your hand weight, change hand, change style ever so slightly, change your speed, they will fail everytime leaving DWP with no choice but to revert to the old paper method.

      Also never ever give the signature you use in your normal life for say stuff like banking. Its perfectly legal to have as many signatures as you like, as it is perfectly legal to change it like you would underpants. If everyone put a cross as a signature which is again perfectly legal, this would so screw up DWPs plans on this pad. Basically if successful, DWP intend to make claimants do this online so its in every claimants interest to mess it up for them.

      I guarantee if every claimant did this, it would render the whole notion that IDS has on preventing fraud as the premise of it absolutely mute. He and the public can blame claimants all they like, they still cant stop you so look at it as two fingers up to all those who support the punitive practice of hating claimants who like legal highs are blanketed as all the same.

      I say if that’s what they want then we should oblige them, unify and sabotage this welfare reform that no matter how government spins it is nothing more than a newly formed court who feels it has a right to criminalise people for being unemployed so badly, it makes prison an all inclusive butlins camp where murders, terrorists, pedos and the likes enjoy daily food and shelter without condition. Just to highlight how correct this assertion is if an already convicted murder kills an inmate while in prison that despite going back to court and being convicted stills enjoys food and shelter throughout the whole process and at no time has to apply for hardship or tokens for the local food bank.

      gaia

      May 30, 2015 at 10:53 am

  15. The JC today, there is now 6 advisers, were about 20, the rest have now been laid off, their desks are now cleared of everything including the electronic sign pads which were on their desks.

    enigma

    May 29, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    • Yesterday: at my Jobcentre, I overheard two advisers/roaches saying that tomorrow (today) would be their last day. This is the first wave of voluntary Jobcentre redundancies. The next wave will be at the end of this year. At this rate, there won’t be anyone left. May be that’s the Tories game-plan – flick everyone out under so-called austerity cuts, and then farm out what’s left to the likes of Grand-pimp Seetec.

      jj joop

      May 29, 2015 at 1:53 pm

      • One of the paid employees of the local food bank, – other job is careers adviser, has been helping those JC advisers who have been laid off, with their CV’s, because they know they are going to find it difficult to find paid employment, what with – following orders.

        I have just been told that they won’t be replaced. and that claimants will have to go elsewhere. – that’s all the info I got, at the moment.

        enigma

        May 29, 2015 at 2:08 pm

      • Damn, I forgot to remind them that “they’re next” at this week’s visit, but I did notice the place was empty. Nevermind I have another appointment next week, I might ask them if they need any help with ‘jobsearch’.

        going to find it difficult to find paid employment

        There’s 710,000 opportunities on UJ, all they have to do is ‘just take’ one of those.

        Another Fine Mess

        May 29, 2015 at 3:38 pm

  16. WATCH OUT!

    Perhaps this is why the Tories are laying Jobcentre staff off. Just been put up on What Do They Know

    Change implementation: Issue Date 20 may 2015

    Widening the pool of Post-Work Programme claimants to ensure sufficient volumes are referred to CWP.

    5. the contingency requires all claimants currently receiving Post-Work Programme support to be considered for referral, where their work programme completer interview (WPCI) was undertaken before 28 April 2014. this is the original date from which a WPCI must have been undertaken in order for a claimant to become eligible for CWP as part of the Help to Work package of measures.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/268205/response/658031/attach/html/2/FoI%202024Hearne%20Response%20letter%2015%2005%2029.pdf.html

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/268205/response/658031/attach/html/6/SR13%20HtW%20Implementation%20Memo%20031%20CWP%20contingency%202015%2005%2020.pdf.html

    jj joop

    May 29, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    • Slave Labour nation here we come!

      jj joop

      May 29, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    • If I’ve read this correctly then claimants who had their WPCI before 28 April 2014 can now be referred to CWP. Whereas before they were exempt.

      Does anyone here know of anyone this has happened to because this is the first I’ve heard of it?

      Sawny

      May 30, 2015 at 6:47 am

    • That doesn’t surprize me jj joop when you factor the report I posted on the latest data regarding the work programme. With such numbers being low, these providers cant possibly stay in business so couple that with the planned public service redundancies and it all makes sense.

      Dwp wont be in a position to deal with claimants as they have so placing that duty on the providers means they will probably only deal with signing on and people making claims. This inturn keeps the providers in business which if wasn’t would see IDSs plan go up in smoke and benefits going back to the way they were decades ago.

      Like every other public service, DWP will go all private eventually, that’s certain.

      Now incase any don’t already know, providers are now considered second parties meaning the agreement you make with DWP when first registering carries to the provider so don’t be surprized if there new paperwork doesn’t include a data protection policy. This means they can without legal consent process your data.

      Currently IDS is still working on extending this condition to the employers of placements but as yet remains uncertain. I cant go into detail about this as it hinges on how a contract with such would be viewed (ie, is it an identical situation to providers).

      If any are to make a new claim do state to DWP that you need the full rules as if they haven’t done it already, they may enter into it a statement saying you agree to attend a provider day one meaning its possible you could be interviewed by one within three days so they can prevent claimants signing on and off to avoid it or other schemes.

      gaia

      May 30, 2015 at 9:51 am

  17. The DWP is so fucking corrupt it makes FIFA look squeaky-clean 😀

    Sepp Blatter

    May 29, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    • Blatter hasn’t escaped possible arrest just yet and considering how vengeful US courts have been lately like the silk road owner, the first person I have ever heard of who never directly supplied any drugs, guns etc, whos only crime not that I would call it that was to not vet what he hosted to get a life sentence, that it may well follow as soon as one of those arrested implicates him in a way he cant talk himself out of what with American justice being built on bargaining lighter sentences rather than lengthy and costly court cases.

      I cant say if he is guilty but it is shameful that he feels he cant be made responsible. He has had 14 years to sort out fraud and failed so why can anyone believe it will be any different now. He needs to shuffle his old senile self off and stop acting like hes bigger than football.

      gaia

      May 30, 2015 at 11:10 am

  18. ken

    May 29, 2015 at 6:46 pm

  19. OT?

    BLUE LABOUR

    Is Labour the party of Welfare?

    Recently, Labour MP John Mann said welfare should be slashed. Now it’s Andy Burnham backing further welfare cuts:

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/29/labours-andy-burham-further-welfare-cuts-leader-business

    Yes, the poor are always with us.

    Tobanem

    May 30, 2015 at 7:48 am

  20. Mental health. – institutional abuse

    Families described patients being treated like animals in a zoo.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-32937046

    enigma

    May 30, 2015 at 1:54 pm

  21. Rail strike – back on

    Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union members are set to hold a 24-hour strike from 17:00 BST on 4 June and a 48-hour strike from 17:00 BST on 9 June

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32941421

    enigma

    May 30, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    • YES!! Respect to the strikers. Let’s hope this is the first of many!!

      kat rehman

      May 30, 2015 at 7:56 pm

  22. Dear Mr Prime Fuck up of a Minister: David “I’m Gonna get what I wan tor Spit out my Dummy, Cause I’ll start crying like the little shit I am:

    Please tell me when you actually asked the British Public if they actually wanted to ask the question:

    In or Out of Europe?

    You said you would give the british people a choice on being in or out of Europe by 2017 – But Mr CAMERON – THE BRITISH PEOPLE HAVEN’T EVEN ASKED THIS QUESTION – SO MR CAMERON, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING – DICKHEAD!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 30, 2015 at 5:11 pm

  23. Mr Cameron – No one has asked you as a Compete and utter fuck up of a Prime Minister – if we have even asked if we have asked this question, your wanting to ask Great Britain – I think your assuming a lot on behalf of the british public.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    • This is what the current Govt. try’s to get you to do as “SHEEP” – Suck it and see!

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      May 30, 2015 at 5:53 pm

  24. Current asswipe: Govt:

    Please Merkel and and all the other EU Govt. States of the EU, TELL FUCK FACED CAMERON TO FUCK OFF – WE IN BRITAIN CAN’T STAND THE FUCKER!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 30, 2015 at 6:04 pm

  25. WE THE BRITISH PEOPLE – DON’T EVEN WANT THIS QUESTION TO BE ASKED.

    Mr Cameron – are u brain dead or what?

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm

  26. JCs are now trying to use these pads all over the place, even though they admit they don’t work very well – go figure.
    Thread on UM: http://unemploymentmovement.com/forum/jcp-help/322-electronic-signing-pads.html

    Another Fine Mess

    May 30, 2015 at 9:21 pm


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