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Conservatives: Failed Work Programme Model for the ‘Big Society’.

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Mr Cestoda:  Official Tory Spokesperson on Welfare Reform. 

The Tory Manifesto is out.

These are the main points that concern Ipswich Unemployed Action.

 Welfare:
  • Welfare Reform: A Conservative government would continue to pursue Iain Duncan Smith’s reform agenda and ensure that work paid better than welfare.
  • Cap Spending: Overall welfare spending would be capped, and the household benefit cap reduced to £23,000.
  • Immigration: Reform of welfare rules will be utilised to apply indirect controls to immigration from within the European Union.

 

A welfare system that is fair  to those who need it, and fair to those who pay for it too: stopping benefit cheats and ending welfare abuse

We will cap the UK’s overall welfare spending, to save you money We will keep a check on the growth of welfare spending, enabling us to provide a system that is fair to those who need it, and fair to those who pay for it too.

Our overall welfare cap will limit the amount that government can spend on certain social security benefits in the five years from 2015-16. We will freeze working age benefits for two years from April 2016, with exemptions for disability and pensioner benefits – as at present – as well as maternity allowance, statutory maternity pay, statutory paternity pay, statutory adoption pay and statutory sick pay

We will deliver Universal Credit, in order to provide the right incentives for people to work; target support at those who need it most; reduce fraud and error; and streamline administration of the welfare system.

Many a rash promise made in haste, and never delivered….

This is of interest,

Helping you build the Big Society.
We will innovate in how we deliver public services We have pioneered ways to deliver high-quality public services, including through getting the voluntary sector more involved.”

Comment: What do they mean by the ‘voluntary sector? What kind of ‘model’ does it offer?

 

A clue: 

For example, our Work Programme has helped harness the talent and energy of charities to help people turn their lives around and find their way back into work. We will examine ways to build on this type of innovative approach in the future

 

They’re ‘aving a bleein’ larf!

Obviously they mean a system riddled with incompetent bunglers, fellow-tape worm parasites (aka: ‘providers’ the unemployment ‘bizniz’), chancers, unable to deliver the goods….

Apparently this is all said straight-faced.

What is this then?

We have also pioneered the use of social impact bonds and payment-by-results, and we will look to scale these up in the future, focusing on youth unemployment, mental health and homelessness

Sounds like another tape-wormy plan to feed off the public.

Still: you too can help the Tories run society and grind down the poor:

We will help you volunteer and support action to help the vulnerable We will support the Prince of Wales’ Step Up To Serve initiative, encouraging young people to serve in their community”

And we will make volunteering for three days a year a workplace entitlement for people working in large companies and the public sector. People could, for example, volunteer for a local charity or serve as a school teacher, refuse collector, fire fighter, park keeper, surgeon, nurse or carer.

 

(actually I made the later examples up….)

 

The Tories live in fucking Narnia wonderland.

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  1. The volunteering lark brings to mind this story,

    Eric Pickles car crash interview: Senior Tory struggles to explain Cameron’s paid volunteering scheme.

    “Communities secretary Eric Pickles suffered a bruising encounter on Radio 4’s Today programme as he struggled to explain Tory plans to give workers three days’ paid leave for volunteering.

    David Cameron pledged a future Conservative government will offer workers in the public sector and big private companies three days’ paid leave for volunteering. Large companies are classified as those with 250 or more employees. Almost 15m workers will be eligible for the extra leave.

    Pickles likened the policy to workers taking their annual leave. Pressed on who would pay for the cost of nurses in NHS hospitals taking an extra three days away from work, Pickles was unable to name a figure. He said: “It would be worked out so as not cause inconvenience to hospitals.”

    Asked why his party felt the need to force more volunteering on large private companies, Pickles argued it was about “putting something back into society”. However, the lack of detail and wooly phrasing came off to many listeners as political waffle.

    The senior Tory became increasingly frustrated with the line of questioning and repeated the same comeback he used earlier in the interview with Justin Webb, “I’m sorry my answers are getting in the way of your questions.”

    He claimed companies would benefit from having an “engaged workforce”. There was further confusion around whether or not the companies would be forced to allow the three days volunteering. Pickles said, “no one is forcing companies to organise this volunteering if it causes problems to the company”.

    When asked if there would be provision in the legislation about a situation where a company felt it was too burdensome to allow an extra three days off work volunteering and decided not to engage in the programme, Pickles said:

    We expect a bit of give and take on this, in the same way that we expect people to have a bit of give and take with regard to annual leave.

    Things only got worse for Pickles when he pitched up on the Daily Politics to be grilled by Andrew Neil. Quizzed over how the Tories’ new pledge to freeze regulated rail fares would cost Pickles drew a blank and appeared disoriented as there were troubles with the line.”

    http://www.cityam.com/213457/eric-pickles-car-crash-interview-senior-tory-struggles-explain-camerons-paid-volunteering

    What a rabble the Tories are!

    Andrew Coates

    April 14, 2015 at 5:10 pm

  2. Actually I’d sign up for this. I’d volunteer at my local unemployed workers centre or get training to help battle sanctioned claimants ect. Seriously. But I guess that powers that be would deem that inappropriate!!

    kat rehman

    April 14, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    • Actually I’d sign up for this. I’d volunteer at my local unemployed workers centre or get training to help battle for sanctioned claimants Rights. Seriously. But I guess that powethat be would deem that inappropriate!!

      kat rehman

      April 14, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    • I do that at the local food bank, all those who are sanctioned.

      enigma

      April 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm

  3. A few very old pensioners will vote out of habit and so we will get the most severe hung parliament because most people will not vote.

    With no party winning outright to be able to form a government, we will get a Tory caretaker government for the next 5 years.

    Even if the Tories then call a second general election, we will just get a Tory / Labour coalition, and no opposition in the UK parliament.

    So voting for small parties that do not have an MP in government yet can have the best chance in generations.

    The non-voter had a landslide victory in 2010, with the same voter turnout as 1918 after so many men had died in the first world war.

    WHO ARE THE PARTIES OF THE POOR OF THE LEFT WHO WILL END
    STARVATION AND SANCTIONS AND SAVE THE NHS AND WELFARE STATE
    AND THE STATE PENSION?

    see:
    http://www.anastasia-england.me.uk

    Chris

    April 14, 2015 at 8:41 pm

  4. My partner does voluntary work in an old folks home. We’re both on Jsa. She has just received a 4-page form called ‘Volunteering when claiming benefits….”.
    Two of the questions are..” Do you get anything other than expenses?”…and “.. Why are you not paid for your time?..” Think about that last one.
    Veiled threats in the form indicate benefit may be affected. I thought the bastards would approve of voluntary work.
    When a nasty regime nears its end , in history, criminal and insane acts are perpetrated against innocent people.
    Is this questionnaire about voluntary work new??

    greyhound smith

    April 15, 2015 at 6:49 am

    • I hope you replied to “Why are you not paid for your time ? ” , ” if you were an employer, would you pay wages if you knew you could get the same staff from DWP for FREE ?

      gaia

      April 15, 2015 at 7:23 am

    • Jobseekers should be aware that voluntary organisations pass on the personal details of their volunteers to the jobcentre. Try volunteering ‘on the side’ without ‘declaring’ it and see how long it takes the jobcentre to catch you…

      Stazi

      April 15, 2015 at 8:10 am

    • Greyhound, I had that experience and stopped volunteering!

      Andrew Coates

      April 15, 2015 at 10:47 am

      • I always thought that volunteering was something ‘extra’.

        Now half the public services seem to be propped up by volunteers (Suffolk Libraries onwards).

        The Tories will (1) use workfare to fill paid jobs in the public services, and now.,

        (2) Try to get everybody else doing this.

        They are experts in spending other people’s time, and giving away other people’s property – housing association homes to start with.

        Andrew Coates

        April 15, 2015 at 10:51 am

      • Yup, stopped volunteering too once it was obvious that the jobcentre were on to me… 🙂

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:38 am

      • … and he by gum they don’t have make it obvious lol 🙂

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:39 am

      • btw they give you enough ‘hints’ 🙂 , and it also triggered the ‘Benefit Integrity’ centre, you just know you are like busted :). Solution is to pack it in 🙂 Volunteering is a no-go if you are signing-on!

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:43 am

      • You can’t win with the jobcentre 😀 If you don’t ‘declare’ your volunteering you are going to get caught. And if you do declare it you are only going to get hassled like greyhound smith’s partner. And obviously any volunteering work you do that the jobcentre know about going to be twisted and spun to suit the jobcentre/work programme’s agenda.

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:47 am

      • When you think about it the jobcentre is really quite twisted and perverse – a right mind-fuck if ever there was one.

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:50 am

      • As soon as they think you might escape their clutches they throw a spanner into the works 😀

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:51 am

      • The bastards want to keep you under their jackboot where they can torture you and abuse you, are like a cat toying with a mouse – letting it go so it can run off then catching it again. Or like the farmer who kicks his cow in the legs and then mocks it as it tries to get back on its feets. C****!

        Volly Teer

        April 15, 2015 at 11:54 am

      • I still volunteer, for the food bank and soon for the council, why? I like to be busy.

        enigma

        April 15, 2015 at 6:46 pm

  5. Whats the point of a government who allows employers to create jobs that still require the employee to claim lots of in work benefits ?

    Whats the point of claiming to reduce unemployment when all that happened was the claimant only merely changed the type and amount of benefits they would receive ?

    Whats the point of saying we are all in it together when clearly we are not ?

    gaia

    April 15, 2015 at 7:56 am

  6. I can see eventually that the 3 days off for voluntary work and pensioners being asked to do voluntary work will soon become manadatory

    Northolt

    April 15, 2015 at 7:59 am

    • “Compulsory” would be more to their liking, since they know “mandatory” isn’t working, for all of us, because some of us know it’s voluntary.

      enigma

      April 15, 2015 at 7:10 pm

      • enigma ot

        how long do i need to keep getting fit notes from the doctors for? is it still 26 weeks? or do i need to keep sending them in till i get an assessment from atos ect?

        super ted

        April 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm

      • If your not fit for work because of your arm just keep getting notes from your doc, an assessment doesn’t mean you are fit to work so you can continue to get notes from your doc after an assessment.

        enigma

        April 15, 2015 at 11:38 pm

      • ” National Citizens Service ??????”

        Northolt

        April 16, 2015 at 8:46 am

  7. Thanks For The Advice. Looks Like Voluntary Work Is Ok. But Only If Mandated By The DWP.

    Northolt

    April 15, 2015 at 8:15 am

    • Exactly!

      Stazi

      April 15, 2015 at 8:18 am

    • Yeah, just so long as you got the jobcentre jackboot up your arse!

      RAD

      April 15, 2015 at 8:23 am

      • Is that why the dSS became the dwp Jackboots. Colour coded wristbands. ? Today of all days. Anniversary of liberation of Belsen.!

        Northolt

        April 15, 2015 at 9:13 am

      • Don’t Forget Your WPP Too!

        Northolt

        April 17, 2015 at 10:26 am

  8. Tobanem

    April 15, 2015 at 8:18 am

    • No hope for me then, shall I wear one colour code to denote my rheumatoid arthritis?? Enigma, care to join me??

      kat rehman

      April 15, 2015 at 8:37 am

      • “kat” – the colour code you mention would be similar to the different coloured triangular badges worn by the Nazi concentration camp victims, where the colour black (as one example) denoted the Arbeitsscheu or workshy!

        The Arbeitsscheu also included the “asocial”, the homeless, the mentally ill, alcoholics and the disabled.

        Tobanem

        April 15, 2015 at 9:11 am

      • See My Previous Posts. And The Fact Of What Today Is The Anniversary Of. I Certainly Think That The United Nations, The European Union, And The Public Would Be Totally Against This Vile Idea

        Northolt

        April 15, 2015 at 9:28 am

      • As I Said Colour Coded Wrist Bands. Today Of All Days. The Anniversary Of British Troops Entering Bergen Belsen. Remind Anybody Of Anything. (?).

        Northolt

        April 15, 2015 at 9:15 am

      • Tobanem it truly chills me. My religion of childhood was Judaism. I lost relatives in the Holocaust. And truly this country is going same way

        kat rehman

        April 15, 2015 at 10:19 am

      • Sure I’ll join you Kat, whatever colour we’re given. 🙂

        enigma

        April 15, 2015 at 6:38 pm

      • I remeber the old song # RED AND YELLOW AND PINK AND GREEN ORANGE AND PURPLE AND BLUE. ”I see a RAINBOW”

        Northolt

        April 16, 2015 at 8:45 am

    • So much for equality and the big society.wearing this is a shocking proposal with sinister overtones and potentially places people at personal risk.seventy years since the liberation of bergen belsen these ideas are still in circulation.

      http://www.holocaustcenter.org/holocaust-badges

      What was seen on television is truly shocking,death,starvation.

      There has been such talk before,such as starve the unemployed back to work.

      https://thevaleman.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/digby-jones-starve-the-unemployed-back-to-work-panorama/

      ken

      April 15, 2015 at 11:18 am

    • More on this,

      ” Conservative parliamentary candidate has told a shocked hustings that people with mental illnesses could wear wristbands to help identify their condition.

      Barrister and Cambridge hopeful Chamali Fernando has since accused her opponents of “distorting commentary” — but has not denied making the suggestion, which would clearly stigmatise those which such conditions.

      Having tweeted about the incident, local political blogger Richard Taylor told the Cambridge Tab:

      “She said as a barrister she would like to be able to help mentally ill people … She then said suggested a different coloured wristband for each mental health condition for those who are unable to communicate their conditions.”

      So she’s a barrister to boot!

      http://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/04/conservative-chamali-fernando-wristbands-mentally-ill/

      Andrew Coates

      April 15, 2015 at 4:06 pm

      • She ”maybe dangerous too” (UKIP DEFECTOR ALLEGEDLY)

        Northolt

        April 16, 2015 at 8:42 am

  9. According to ONS figures,

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm%3A77-353568

    The tory government created 1.8 million jobs while in power.

    BUT, when observing the figures you will find only 20% of them were PAYE, while the remaining 80% went to self employment. Now for the record no government can claim credit to create self employment, that’s the reserve of the individual doing it.

    Another thing to note is the productivity puzzle, how despite increasing employment, it is continuing to still drop to new lows.

    This, along with the latest revelation of a flaky 5 billion the tories claim we will make from tax evasion pours more cold water over there claimed success during there governance.

    If theres one thing I have learnt about today politicians is that, its not what they say but more so what they don’t that really counts, a consideration I hope the electorate take into account before hitting the polls soon.

    gaia

    April 15, 2015 at 9:50 am

    • gaia,

      if the corporate benifits to the tune of 85bn [from 4 odd years agp so must have gone up since then! we are talking about the ConMen here!] is got rid of then that hole either goes away or ges a lot more manageable.

      But no one will touch that – Instead they’ll pick on the pleb voters…

      Gazza

      April 15, 2015 at 5:42 pm

  10. Another thing to consider is theres around a 110 billion shortfall in revenue collected Vs public expenditure, meaning no matter the party all will borrow and thus increase the national debt. Now when we borrow to prop the public expenditure, we have to borrow even more and invest it in the hope of covering both. Year on year we have failed to plug that gap and as a result, it just gets bigger no matter QE and or austerity cuts. To make matters worse, most expects in the field agree both have had a negative impact.

    In the case of welfare reform despite reducing expenditure, the cost jumped elsewhere as the headcount swelled at the NHS, prisons and charities yet todate the government is unable to account exactly why, nor seems interested in trying to along with escalating suicides.

    Theres a scientific principle that states you cant get more out of what you put in yet what the tories and even labour prescribe defies the very fundamental rule so whats next, there tell us they have discovered zero point energy, time travel or that aliens from a distant planet will come and save us ?

    gaia

    April 15, 2015 at 12:03 pm

  11. Posted on 14/04/2015 by http://www.refuted.org.uk

    Jobcentre ‘Work Coaches’ cannot make following mandatory.

    Today the DWP disclosed a summary of it’s Work Coaches (WC) “main activities“, it is worth noting that use of the ‘My Work Plan‘ is entirely voluntary and benefit claimants can restrict WC/DWP access to Universal Jobmatch accounts. Under Universal Credit (UC), it is not a requirement to sign a Claimant Commitment (CC), legislation requires that one be “accepted” via a number of means. Before accepting a UC CC, there is a 7 day cooling off period.

    http://refuted.org.uk/2015/04/14/coachescannot/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    April 15, 2015 at 2:14 pm

  12. ” Why are you not paid for your time ? ”

    Cheeky bastards. I would have replied :

    For exactly the same reasons that jobseekers who are forced under threat of sanctions onto workfare schemes do not receive pay for their time.

    pauly

    April 15, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    • Because MWA, CWP, and workfare have all forced wages down to £0.00.

      Another Fine Mess

      April 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm

  13. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.

    A6er

    April 15, 2015 at 8:36 pm

  14. I know its off topic but is anyone having problems with yahoo today ?

    gaia

    April 16, 2015 at 11:50 am

    • Yes. Freezing And Not Loading Properly, Passwords Not Recognized 0); Not Just The Emails Eithers!

      Notholt

      April 16, 2015 at 12:55 pm

      • Thanks Northolt as I will be damned if I can get into my own email account. Ive found a website that looks at other sites activity and according to it, yahoo has been down for 4 hours already. The only thing I can get is the news page and that is it.

        Anyway thanks again Northolt.

        gaia

        April 16, 2015 at 1:13 pm

      • That is ok. I was in the ”RASPUTIN” Internet Cafe on the Norwich Road in Ipswich. The person on the computer next to where I was sitting logged into their account. Their password failed and so did the so called security question. The owner of the Internet Cafe tried his account too. He had the same problem. They both lost their accounts. Did you get yours back. It’s looking like a DDS or even some sort of Hack / Phishing. Anybody else have these problems ?. Try and have a good weekend peoples

        Northolt

        April 17, 2015 at 7:59 am

  15. Sorry Typo In Name…NORTHOLT. NOT NOTHOLT

    Northolt

    April 16, 2015 at 12:56 pm

  16. “The coalition has orchestrated a demonisation of need, where someone struggling on Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) has been recast as the feckless workshy and a person too sick to work is a scrounger worthy of suspicion.

    Right-wing media and ‘poverty porn’ television have simply fed a fear that our own government has started. Benefit fraud is less than one per cent. The biggest part of social security spending – 53 per cent – actually goes to pensioners. Listen to Ian Duncan Smith and you would think the disabled were living in gold houses and the unemployed bathing in diamonds.

    The sanction regime is characteristic of the distortion of a compassionate, fair safety-net. Jobcentre staff report being given targets for stopping people’s benefits, whether that’s a claimant who’s five minutes late for an appointment or someone with chronic illness who’s too sick to get out of bed. Meanwhile, workfare schemes force people on JSA to work for free or be sanctioned. This is not only about removing benefits but the principle behind them. Social security as a universal entitlement is being attacked.

    A major tool in this has been the stigmatisation of people needing benefits – part of a wider attempt to make the public see things in terms of workers versus claimants. But the facts show this is an entirely false division. A job market characterised by unstable hours and low wages has pushed working people towards benefits. Housing benefit figures alone show the number of people in work needing help to pay the rent has increased by almost 60 per cent under the coalition.

    Britain is getting poorer. This government’s choices – both benefit cuts and tax changes – have made more workers, more children, more disabled people struggle. 13 million people now live in poverty in this country.

    It is charity that has been left to pick up the pieces. Half a million people have had to go to food banks to feed themselves over the past six months – most because of benefit delays and sanctions, others due to low wages. This is part of a disturbing retreat of the state, where private companies and local volunteers fill the gaps left by failing government.

    Taking back the welfare state is a fundamental issue of this election. The stakes could not be higher: the right to a life without poverty and a system where we help each other. As Class set out in their election guide, we must restore social security as a permanent, humane part of British society.

    Frances Ryan

    http://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/the-coalition-has-stigmatised-welfare-users-we-need-a-return-to-compassion-and-solidarity/

    Andrew Coates

    April 16, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    • The local council are using a volunteer org in order to get the unemployed working for the council. the council don’t like the idea of the word, “workfare” which is what it is, obviously it’s happening everywhere. as well as libraries and a lot more. as we all know. this is what it has come to.

      enigma

      April 16, 2015 at 2:40 pm

      • We will have the worst case scenario of what happened in Liverpool in the days of Mr Derek Hatton. Council workers receiving redundancy notices {By Taxi ?}. Ending up on JSA. Then eventually with the {Help Of ”Seetec-et,al} ending up in their OLD JOB but on workfare or what ever name it shall be called within the next month or so!

        Northolt

        April 17, 2015 at 10:12 am

  17. If you are working for 37.5hours a week and getting COUNCIL TAX HELP ONLY, such as 25% reduction for being single and that is all the help you get. Why then are you expected to find a job of 40 hours. You will still get the 25% for being single or is so that YOU INCREASE YOUR PAY AND CANCEL 25% REDUCTION. My near neighbour is in this position!

    Northolt

    April 18, 2015 at 8:01 am


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