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Minister Confronted with Grieving Relative after Brazen Performance at Benefits Sanction Inquiry.

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Patrick Butler commented on Tuesday,

The House of Commons work and pensions select committee has not merely shed light on the grotesque brutalities of the current benefit sanctions regime in the past few weeks, but established an unlikely consensus among rightwing thinktanks, the welfare-to-work industry and leftwing trade union leaders that the system is hugely flawed.

So far 19 expert witnesses – academics, charity workers and welfare advisers – have come before the inquiry. All agreed that some form of conditionality – rules by which claimants agree to actively seek work in exchange for social security support – is necessary in return for the payment of unemployment benefits. But all have also concurred, to varying degrees, that the current conditions (the tightest ever imposed in the UK) are both disproportionately punitive and, in terms of helping jobless people back to work, counterproductive.

Rt Hon Esther Mcvey, Minister of State, and Chris Hayes, Director, Labour Market and International Affairs, Department for Work and Pensions gave evidence to the Work and Pensions Committee yesterday:

You can watch it here, Parliament TV.


Grieving relative confronts DWP minister Esther McVey after benefit sanctions inquiry (New Statesman)

The sister of a diabetic who died after having his benefits cut wept after hearing the minister say there is state support for vulnerable people.

Esther McVey, the Employment Minister, was handed an image of David Clapson – the man found dead in his flat from diabetic ketoacidosis, two weeks after his benefits were suspended – following a select committee inquiry into benefits sanctions this afternoon.

In the emotional confrontation, Clapson’s younger sister, Gill Thomspon, presented the image to McVey and said: “A diabetic cannot wait two weeks.” A reference to the amount of time a Jobseeker’s Allowance claimant, when sanctioned, has to wait to receive a hardship payment.

When Thompson discovered her brother’s body in July 2013, she found his electricity had been cut off, meaning the fridge where he stored his insulin was no longer working. Speaking to the Guardian in 2014, Thompson said: “I don’t think anyone should die like that in this country, alone, hungry and penniless . . . They must know that sanctioning people with diabetes is very dangerous. I am upset with the system; they are treating everyone as statistics and numbers.”

This is worth noting, for its sheer effrontery,

Tensions escalated during the hearing, and at one point the committee member Paul Maynard, a Tory MP, appeared distressed by the opposition’s questioning of McVey and threatened to leave the committee hearing.

The Guardian Reports,

The employment minister has defended the government’s policy of removing people’s benefit payments when they fail to meet certain conditions.

Giving evidence to MPs on the work and pensions select committee, Esther McVey said international evidence pointed to the effectiveness of benefit sanctions, but warned that “no system is perfect” and ideally nobody would need to be sanctioned.

McVey argued that the purpose of the government’s welfare changes had been to make the system more personalised and to “understand the need of the individual”. She said that once claimants were sanctioned it acted as a red flag and alerted the authorities that a person was vulnerable and in need of help.
Very few people are sanctioned, the employment minister said, with only 0.00057% of those referred given the maximum three-year sanction.
Time to rethink these dysfunctional benefit sanctions

But the chair of the committee and MP for Aberdeen South, Dame Anne Begg, said it seemed the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had no significant evidence that sanctions were working and that they affected a group of people who the minister admitted were particularly vulnerable. “Just because [the system is] working for the majority, if we are to accept your argument, doesn’t mean its working for that small group [who are sanctioned],” she said.

In June 2011, the coalition government introduced a series of welfare changes that included sanctions on benefits claimants who do not meet government conditions for actively seeking work, cutting their payments for a minimum of four weeks.

Esther McVey arrives at 10 Downing Street Esther McVey, who said only 0.00057% of those referred were given the maximum three-year sanction. Photograph: Reuters

Previous evidence given to the work and pensions select committee, which is investigating the effects of benefit sanctions, has suggested that sanctions are leaving people without enough money to live on, forcing them to use food banks, and that the DWP has failed to do the necessary research into the effects of the measure in order to justify the policy.

When asked whether she thought a good welfare system necessarily required sanctions, McVey said: “It’s not just me saying that. It’s been said since time began and all the international evidence is saying that.”

Responding to a study from the University of Oxford and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, which claimed that the majority of those who received benefit sanctions were not going into work, McVey said the researchers had used flawed logic, made “leaps in where they got the facts and figures, and they came to the conclusion they wanted to come to”.

The minister argued that according to a destination survey conducted by her department the number of people going into work after benefit sanctions was more like 70% and that people tended not to tell jobcentres when they had got a job, making the figures used by the researchers unreliable. The researchers suggested that their figure of 20% was probably too high because anecdotal evidence suggests that people working in jobcentres are encouraged to record those coming off benefits as having gone into employment.

“You seem to be very selective in the evidence you will accept,” Debbie Abrahams, MP for Oldham East and Saddleworth, said.

McVey said there were categorically no targets set on how many claimants should be sanctioned, contradicting previous evidence given to the committee. “All of the things that the honourable lady is looking for and trying to find do not exist”, she said.

What a very, very honourable lady.


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  1. Anyone know where I can download the video of this?


    February 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm

  2. Just been listening to Radio 4’s You and Yours which was discussing employment agencies. They mention that work programme providers were also running agencies so that they received money from they government when they ‘placed’ jobseekers into these ‘exploitative jobs’. Also mentioned was one company who expected their workers to travel 25 miles as the crow flies, Liverpool to Blackburn was given as an example; this was one way the agency dodged paying travelling expenses. Workers were ‘offered’ at least 7 hours of work per week but not ‘guaranteed’ it. Jacobs (United Biscuits) was only slated as a major user of ‘throwaway’ agencies workers – something to think about next you consider buying a packet of Clubs or Cream Crackers. Programme will be available on the iplayer if you missed it.


    February 5, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    • Oh yes, and it was mentioned that jobseekers in the UK are flowing off the register faster than anywhere else in the Europe but where are they going?: zero hour exploitive agency jobs!


      February 5, 2015 at 1:07 pm

      • And the sanctioned are off the register.


        February 5, 2015 at 1:13 pm


    Vote CLASS WAR!!

    February 5, 2015 at 1:08 pm

  4. Men Who Sleep in Cars
    Afternoon Drama

    Men Who Sleep in Cars by Michael Symmons Roberts

    Three man whose lives have been turned upside down by the recession sleep in their cars, caught in an economic trap.

    On one night in the week preceding England’s first World Cup fixture , Marley, Antonio and McCulloch spend the night in their cars on the streets of Manchester having lost all their economic and social power . They hide away in disused car parks or in industrial estates, trying to snatch sleep . They listen to the radio for company, hearing the build up to the World Cup where some of the most powerful men in the world of sport compete on the world stage .

    As they play develops we gradually learn how these three came to sleep in their cars, and how their lives interconnect. There’s an excitement, a freedom even, to living alone out in the world like this, the moments of peace – rain on the car’s roof.

    Thursday 05/02/15 (today) 14:15-15:00

    On AM/FM/Digital/Online/iPlayer

    BBC Radio 4

    February 5, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    • Very easy to end up in this situation… the jobcentre send you to the work programme, the work programme send you to an agency, the work programme send you to their sister agency, the agency put you on a zero hour contract (the work programme arm of the business cashes in with a ‘job outcome’ payment from the dwp), you don’t get enough hours to cover your rent, the landlord evicts you, you end up sleeping in a car if you are lucky, cardboard-box if you are unlucky.

      Sleeping in Cars

      February 5, 2015 at 2:48 pm

  5. The Department for Work and Pensions – Hard at work not listening to people!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 5, 2015 at 3:06 pm

  6. Wednesday 4th February 2015.

    The UK’s biggest union will today start a campaign against the coalition government’s benefit sanctions regime, which it claims is pushing people into poverty.

    Unite’s campaign launches on the same day as employment minster Esther McVey faces a grilling from the Work and Pensions Committee over the government’s controversial sanctions.

    Angry over the way the benefit sanctions on ‘vulnerable’ claimants have left “millions of people in poverty, debt and ill health”, Unite is calling for trade unions, charities and community campaigners up and down the country to take part in a ‘National Day of Action’ with Unite Community Membership on Thursday 19 March.

    Unite’s head of community membership, Liane Groves, said: “It is no wonder people are angry. The government has hit millions of vulnerable people and their families with benefit sanctions – causing the rise of food bank Britain. Sanctions are cruel and ineffective – often handed out for no good reason.

    “We want to send a message to Esther McVey and Westminster that the government is failing to support vulnerable people in our society. More needs to be done to support us all in time of need – not make personal situations worse. Thursday 19 March is a national day of action to highlight the ‘shocking’ impact of government benefit sanctions – we must join forces to stop this now before more people are forced into poverty.”


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 5, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    • And if you read the small print it says Unite want to ‘reform’ sanctions. Sanctions have NO PLACE in the benefits system. We demand an end to CONDITIONALITY in the benefits system.

      Jobssekers Resistance and Information Network (JRIN)

      February 5, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    • Unite takes action against government attacks on ‘vulnerable’ benefit claimants
      03 February 2015

      Britain’s largest trade union, Unite, will kick start a nationwide campaign tomorrow (Wednesday 4 February) against benefit sanctions which are pushing people into poverty and punishing debt.

      The campaign, to stop benefit sanctions, will be launched on the same day that the House of Commons work and pensions committee questions Esther McVey, the minister for employment, over the government’s sanctions regime.

      Unite is angry over the way the government imposes benefit sanctions to ‘vulnerable’ claimants – leaving millions of people in poverty, debt, ill health and angry.

      On Thursday 19 March, Unite is calling for trade unions, charities and community campaigners up and down the country to take part in a ‘National Day of Action’ with Unite Community membership, as part of the campaign.

      Unite head of community membership, Liane Groves, said: “It is no wonder people are angry. The government has hit millions of vulnerable people and their families with benefit sanctions – causing the rise of food bank Britain.

      “Sanctions are cruel and ineffective – often handed out for no good reason.

      “We want to send a message to Esther McVey and Westminster that the government is failing to support vulnerable people in our society. More needs to be done to support us all in time of need – not make personal situations worse.

      “Thursday 19 March is a national day of action to highlight the ‘shocking’ impact of government benefit sanctions – we must join forces to stop this now before more people are forced into poverty.”


      Andrew Coates

      February 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm

  7. One think I learned in government is if I wanted to know the answer to a question I just followed the money!

    Jesse Ventura (Conspiracy Theorist)

    February 5, 2015 at 3:43 pm

  8. enigma

    February 5, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    • That will be very interesting – It fails the Law Test “proportionate” in spades, as it creates further punishment by creating the circumstances for it! If I was a solicitor I would be rubbing my hands in anticipation methinks.


      February 6, 2015 at 12:13 am

  9. More hacking into personal info.

    Anthem, America’s second biggest health insurer, HACKED: Millions hit by breach

    Social security numbers, employment records, the lot.

    Hackers have invaded the servers of Anthem, a health insurer used by tens of millions of Americans, and stolen social security numbers, employment records, personal contact details and more. A veritable treasure trove for identity thieves.

    Anthem, the US’s second biggest health insurer with about 70 million people on its books across the country, admitted late on Wednesday, Pacific time, that it has been comprehensively ransacked by criminals. Tens of millions of records are likely to have been obtained illegally as a result of the hack, Anthem warned.

    If your plan is branded Anthem Blue Cross; Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield; Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Georgia; Empire Blue Cross and Blue Shield; Amerigroup; Caremore; Unicare; Healthlink; or DeCare, you are at risk – your data may have been taken by thieves.



    February 5, 2015 at 10:26 pm

  10. “It’s not just me saying that. It’s been said since time began and all the international evidence is saying that.”

    So has slavery but society tried to change that UNTIL recently


    February 5, 2015 at 11:45 pm

  11. There is a unique opportunity in 2015 general election.

    The poor now outnumber all other voters, of all ages.

    Now the poor see they are threatened with penniless starvation.

    So lives depend upon voting.

    But how could voting change things?

    The excellent Benefits and Work website (an advice for claimants website) has come up with a cunning plan.

    See why this would work big on my personal website:

    Because the poor do have power. You’ll see.


    February 6, 2015 at 4:07 am

  12. Have had to move home due to road development. Informed DWP well in advance of change of address. Signed on yet no payment!! A weekend of misery.
    This country is a police state with a slave economy!!

    greyhound smith

    February 6, 2015 at 7:42 am

    • So I’ve read it, understood it, has anyone to this site read and fully understood the welfare act yet ?

      Can anyone tell me if housing benefit is excluded from sanctions ?

      Can anyone tell me if working and on a low wage but not in receipt of universal credit, is the person still entitled help with NHS costs, like costs of glasses, dental treatment and prescriptions ?

      Can anyone tell me if hardship payments aren’t recoverable ?

      Can anyone tell me if sanctioned in excess of a year, that the person is exempt from community tax payments ?

      These are but 4 of a 100 hundred plus things the public working or not should know about universal credit or more officially the welfare reform act 2012.


      February 6, 2015 at 10:32 am

  13. Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 6, 2015 at 8:57 am

  14. Spot on.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 6, 2015 at 9:32 am

  15. GCHQ censured over sharing of internet surveillance data with US.

    Some remain unhappy with the regime for the collection of data, but the public now has access to more information about how the security services go about activities which the tribunal has described as “below the waterline”.

    James Welch, legal director for Liberty, said: “We now know that, by keeping the public in the dark about their secret dealings with the National Security Agency, GCHQ acted unlawfully and violated our rights.

    “That their activities are now deemed lawful is thanks only to the degree of disclosure Liberty and the other claimants were able to force from our secrecy-obsessed government.”

    He said they disagreed with the ruling that GCHQ was now compliant and would fight it in the European Court of Human Rights.



    February 6, 2015 at 1:47 pm

  16. 6 February 2015.

    SNP demand DWP minister Esther McVey launches probe into benefit sanction targets.

    BENEFITS axewoman Esther McVey is under pressure today to launch an independent investigation into evidence staff feel forced to penalise welfare claimants.

    The SNP demanded the probe after McVey’s Tory colleague David Mundell denied there are targets for benefits sanctions at the Department for Work and Pensions.

    Mundell – Scotland’s only Tory MP – dodged responsibility during a grilling at Holyrood on Tuesday. He was taken to task after the PCS union claimed advisers are under “immense and intolerable” pressure to stop benefits for minor infringements.

    All four SNP members of Holyrood’s welfare reform committee spelled out their anger in a letter to Employment Minister McVey.

    Kevin Stewart, one of the SNP members, said: “There is growing evidence of the pressure being piled on to staff. We are therefore calling for an extensive independent investigation to be carried out and the findings made public so we know if staff are pressurised into imposing sanctions on people and, if so, what kind of pressure the employees are being put under.”

    The PCS have email evidence which shows managers demanding a tougher approach from their staff.

    One in four staff feel they have been given a target and four out of five feel under pressure to sanction people.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 6, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    • Something wrong with this picture.

      “There is growing evidence of the pressure being piled on to staff”,


      We are therefore calling for an extensive independent investigation to be carried out and the findings made public so we know “if” staff are pressurised into imposing sanctions on people and, “if” so, what kind of pressure the employees are being put under.”


      February 6, 2015 at 3:27 pm

      • McVey should have nothing to do with launching a probe into benefit sanction targets. it should be investigated totally independent of her.


        February 6, 2015 at 3:42 pm

  17. I don’t think it really matters anymore, the ‘sanction’ snowball has started rolling and is picking up pace, I think it will get to a point where it can no longer be contained by threats from the DWP and JCP managers.

    I hope it explodes and is laid bare for all to see, that’s probably when charges will be levelled against all involved.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 6, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    • Yes, I like others have seen changes from the advisers, more of them are coming out to tell all, we can all see all the news on line about the sanctions etc, it’s all good news.


      February 6, 2015 at 3:46 pm

  18. Bad News For People living in Thornbury, Bradford, West Yorkshire.

    Around 250 households in West Yorkshire are taking part in a pilot scheme to gauge the impact of universal credit (UC).

    Staff from housing association Incommunities, Bradford Council, JobCentre Plus and the Community Advice Network will this month visit people in rented accommodation and owner occupiers in the Thornbury area to see how prepared they are for UC.

    Under UC, claimants will see their housing benefit paid directly into their bank account and will have to pay their landlord themselves. Presently, the government pays landlords tenants’ housing benefit directly.

    UC also forces people to go online to apply.

    The pilot scheme is aiming to find out if tenants need extra support to adjust to the changes, while the Thornbury area was chosen because of its mix of rented and owner occupier households.

    Dave Dickens, Incommunities’ Director of Income Management, said: “Universal Credit represents a big change for thousands of working age residents in the district. In anticipation of its introduction this pilot aims to give us a clearer picture of how prepared people are and identify where they might need help.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 6, 2015 at 3:55 pm

  19. they have given up on it at my jcp as far as i can tell down to just a hand full of them now on the 2nd floor and 1 g4s guard so if it did kick off now not enough sec for the staff.

    i have been put on esa now so will not have to go for a while as im nor fit for work.

    i broke my arm in 2 places and cracked 3 ribs smashed my knee up and still went to sign on.

    should off seen the look on there faces when i hobbled in the dump if that wont stop me going nothing will haha so thats 5 years and not had to do jack shit n not even got a medal to show for it, mandatory my fkn asss 😉

    super ted

    February 6, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    • But you got all that experience in those 5 years!


      February 6, 2015 at 4:55 pm

  20. Mrs Mike had one this week, it seems – from Atos.

    “Your appointment for an assessment with a healthcare professional” was the heading, beneath which were the words: “We have been asked by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to carry out an assessment in relation to your benefit claim. We have arranged an appointment for you at [date and place]. It is important that you attend this assessment. If you don’t attend, your benefit may be affected.” And so on. It was dated January 30 and we received in on Tuesday (February 3).


    Super Ted’s next!


    February 6, 2015 at 5:32 pm

  21. will not bother me ill just ring up on the day and go back on jsa just to waste there time n go run the piss out of them 😉

    i can play games as well just i win every single time 😉

    super ted

    February 6, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    • I know what you mean, I have received a letter from Atos regarding a silly assessment just after 6 months on ESA, I got a note from my doc stating “I am fit for work” but limited, (RA) I then phoned Atos to cancel the Assessment, I told them I was fit to work, due to the note, (me telling the doc what to put on the note), I asked what the purpose of the assessment is, they had no answer, for I already told them I was fit to work, I told them that the assessment is to get all of the people who are receiving DLA and ESA off their benefits and then onto JSA, Like you super ted, I don’t bother with all their crap, It’s nonsense to me, I’m ready and waiting for JSA.


      February 6, 2015 at 11:55 pm

      • I did show the letter from Atos to the doc, the letter in other words is saying doctors are now of no use.


        February 7, 2015 at 12:11 am

  22. Universal Credit data sharing between DWP and local support providers, to enable them to assess and provide support to vulnerable people as part of the Universal Support (formerly Local Support Services Framework) initiative.

    Consultation response



    February 6, 2015 at 7:12 pm

  23. Overview

    Section 1 introduces the Toolkit, outlines the aims and principles, how it will help Work
    Coaches, and be used to aid learning. Section 1 also looks at DWP claimants and
    jobseekers and those who may “have” or “have had” a mental health issue.
    These are very varied groups, who have a range of employment experience and skills.
    Most of these individuals will benefit from obtaining a job, although some may be
    helped by engaging with appropriate services as a step towards employment. The
    toolkit aims to assist Work Coaches to help claimants make appropriate employment



    February 6, 2015 at 8:03 pm

  24. Fake Jobseeker UJM accounts setup by jobcentre Advisor.



    February 6, 2015 at 8:12 pm

  25. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.


    February 6, 2015 at 10:10 pm

  26. Analogue Jobcentres will be closing down on March 2015. After this switch-over date to digital jobcentres you will no longer be able to receive bulling and harassment from a work roach. Please make sure to bin your ‘work plan’ booklet.


    Digital Jobcentres UK

    February 7, 2015 at 4:52 am

  27. Film of a DWP/WP sanctioned workfare placement leaked out:

    Fuck Workfare

    February 7, 2015 at 10:00 am

  28. This makes very interesting reading.

    Government and Labour trade accusations and insults over Universal Credit progress.

    The political battle over the future of Universal Credit is heating up as the general election approaches, with the Conservative and Labour parties trading insults and accusations in an extraordinary exchange of letters.

    Shadow employment minister Stephen Timms wrote to secretary of state for work and pensions Iain Duncan Smith on 21 January 2015, after the latest Universal Credit update showed just 26,940 people were claiming the new benefit – less than 3% of Duncan Smith’s original forecast of one million people on the system by April 2014, according to Timms.

    In the letters, which have been seen by Computer Weekly, Timms cited “unnecessary secrecy”, “glacial progress” and “absurd” claims over project delivery. In his reply, sent on 22 January 2015, Duncan Smith (pictured) accused Labour of lying over its support for Universal Credit and criticised the party at length over IT failures during its time in government.

    Timms asked specifically if Duncan Smith expected to meet the latest target of 100,000 people on Universal Credit by May 2015. Duncan Smith avoided the question in his reply, but in a subsequent response to a parliamentary question, Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) minister Mark Harper said: “The latest forecast agreed with the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) still rounds to 0.1 million cases.”

    The full text of both letters is published below – Follow the link.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 7, 2015 at 10:25 am

  29. Stats: DWP recruited 2907 Benefit Sanctions Decision Makers from 1059

    Posted on 06/02/2015 by http://www.refuted.org.uk

    Whilst the DWP continually says it has no Benefit Sanctions Targets, despite irrefutable evidence, this view now seems even more implausible since today it published statistics that it show they nearly trebled the number of sanction decision makers?

    Source: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/decision_makers_4#incoming-614876

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 7, 2015 at 10:56 am

  30. I want a change in the ‘Law’ regarding the Work and Pensions Dept. and any other Govt. Dept.

    I would like the Work and Pensions Committee to have the power to sack MP’s and or the Secretary of State and any position included that is employed by the DWP.

    If a Committee finds that the evidence presented by outside sources outweighs the evidence presented by the department in question, then the Secretary for that department will be sacked and any cohorts such as the Minister for that dept. will be sacked also, plus anybody backing them on that decision in the House of Lords, i.e David Freud whom we haven’t heard anything from lately.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 7, 2015 at 3:17 pm

  31. Out of all departments that get requests for Freedom of Information Act requests is the:

    Department for Work and Pensions.

    Here’s the proof.

    Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council 1604 requests
    Department for Work and Pensions 5474 requests
    Kent County Council 1034 requests
    British Broadcasting Corporation 1985 requests
    Department of Health 1664 requests
    Scottish Natural Heritage 34 requests
    Ministry of Defence 2203 requests

    These Depts. get the most requests.

    That’s 5474 requests for The DWP alone, there are a lot more depts but obviously the DWP seriously outweighs any other single Government Department.

    Questions regarding this need to be asked in the House of Commons as it’s abundantly clear the current DWP hasn’t got a clue how to answer questions or even what they mean when answering them.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 7, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    • Oh yeah – forgot to say – it costs up to £600 pounds of Taxpayers money per request to be answered.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      February 7, 2015 at 3:59 pm

      • You lot, especially Gaia and Andy knows I love doing the math. So here we go:

        DWP FOI Requests to date = 5474

        Cost: Let’s hit the max: £600 per request:

        5474 X £600 = 3,284,400.00p

        That’s Three Million, Two Hundred and Eighty Four Thousand, Four Hundred Pounds.


        Department: Current Govt. Dept. DWP. (IDS, McVey, Freud)

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        February 7, 2015 at 4:12 pm

      • That money might even pay for more than one year’s thieving for the owner of SEETEC!


        “Seetec’s boss, Peter Cooper, who owns 80 per cent of the company, paid himself £1.7 million last year, which was “mainly money that he’s earned from the taxpayers’ pound”.


        Andrew Coates

        February 7, 2015 at 4:26 pm

      • Ahh! Another Emma ‘I’m A4E’ ASSHOLE!

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        February 7, 2015 at 4:45 pm

  32. Anybody who gets a sanction MUST contact the local authority ASAP and declare in writing a statement of NIL INCOME!


    April 15, 2015 at 9:35 am

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