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Day of Action, 2nd of March, Against Maximus.

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This is advance notice.

But I notice that  Johnny Void has just carried an excellent post on this particular scandal in the benefits system:

Looming Staffing Crisis In The NHS As Atos And Maximus Try To Steal All The Nurses

Iain Duncan Smith’s brutal and bungled welfare reforms could be set to the plunge the NHS into chaos as nurses and doctors are paid huge sums to carry out benefit-slashing assessments instead of working in our chronically understaffed hospitals.

Maximus Day of Action 2nd March A5 leaflet front and back 06

A national day of action has been called on March 2nd 2015 against Maximus, the company set to take over from Atos running the despised Work Capability Assessments (WCAs) for sickness and disability benefits.

These crude and callous assessments have been used to strip benefits from hundreds of thousands of sick and disabled people after a quick computer based test ruled them ‘fit for work’.  A growing number of suicides have been directly linked to this stressful regime, whilst charities, medical staff and claimants themselves have warned of the desperate consequences for those left with no money at all by the system.

In a huge embarrassment for the DWP, the previous contractor Atos were chased out of the Work Capability Assessments after a sustained and militant campaign carried out by disabled people, benefit claimants and supporters.  In a panicky effort to save these vicious assessments Iain Duncan Smith hired US private healthcare company Maximus to take over from Atos this coming April.

This is not the only lucrative contract the Tories have awarded this company.  Maximus are also involved in helping to privatise the NHS, running the Fit for Work occupational health service designed to bully and harass people on sick leave into going back to work.  Maximus also run the notorious Work Programme in some parts of the UK, meaning that disabled people found fit for work by Maximus may then find themselves sent on workfare by Maximus.  There is no greater enemy to the lives of sick and disabled people in the UK today than this multi-national poverty profiteer who even are prepared to run welfare-to-work style schemes for the brutal Saudi Arabian government.

Maximus have boasted they will not face protests due to their involvement in the Work Capability Asessments and have even stooped as low as hiring one prominent former disability campaigner on a huge salary in an effort to quell protests against their activities.  We urgently need to show them how wrong they are and call for all disabled people, benefit claimants and supporters to organise against this vicious bunch of profiteering thugs.

Please organise in your local area and spread the word.

Disabled People Against Cuts.

Actions will be planned in our region.


Written by Andrew Coates

January 30, 2015 at 4:58 pm

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  1. Another action, not far from Suffolk,

    Protest over “unfair” sanctions outside Great Yarmouth Job Centre.

    “A band of protestors have been gathering outside Great Yarmouth’s Job Centre this week to object against sanctions.

    Armed with placards the group took up their position on the pavement outside the Job Centre at the beginning of this week and said they would be staying put “until further notice”.

    Among the protestors was Stuart Hall, a dad-of-two from Great Yarmouth.

    The 28-year-old jobseeker said he had joined the protest against “unfair” sanctions that had affected him. “If you’re on a bus and that bus is late they’ll penalise you for that,” he added.

    “We’re going to be staying there until our voices are heard and someone does something about it.”

    Under sanctions, jobseekers can have their benefits temporarily stopped if they fail to meet certain requirements, such as attending set appointments.

    A spokesman from the Department for Work and Pensions said: “Jobcentre advisers work hard to help claimants into work, and it is only right that in return 
for that support – and for their benefits – jobseekers are expected to do all they can to find work.

    “Sanctions are used as a last resort where people don’t play by the rules.

    “There are no targets for sanctions and in fact there were fewer sanctions this year compared to last.

    “We have a well-established system of hardship payments for claimants who have little or no other resources available to them.”


    Andrew Coates

    January 30, 2015 at 5:50 pm

  2. Sounds fun, could pay Gummer a visit while you are down there lol

    St James tube is actually the closest but not accessible like Westminster – just before anyone else mentions it first

    Universal Jobmatch

    January 30, 2015 at 7:33 pm

  3. British workers are taking home less in real terms than when Tony Blair won his second general election victory in 2001, with men and young people hit hardest by the wage squeeze that followed the financial crisis, according to new research.

    The Institute for Fiscal Studies thinktank said wages were 1% lower in the third quarter of 2014 than in the same period 13 years earlier after taking inflation into account.

    Jonathan Cribb, an author of the report, said: “Almost all groups have seen real wages fall since the recession.”



    January 30, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    • If you are on benefits you really don’t want wages soaring ahead of you, along with the inevitable higher prices, do you? Inflation/wage inflation is bad if you are on a fixed income i.e benefits.

      Emeritus Professor of Economics

      February 4, 2015 at 4:45 am

  4. Stopped using google years ago myself

    (in reference to an earlier article posted by OBI WAN on the previous thread).

    The best search engines to use that dont distribute your data currently if you aren’t a tech head is the following,




    Do bare in mind this is but one part of the bigger picture so also consider using a portable browser (ie, runs from your usb memory stick) like Tor


    Plus as you read up on the tor bundle you will encounter Tails. Now despite protests from some as to NSA and GCHQ intrusion, do bare in mind im giving you this advice to protect you from companies and government outside of in the case of the UK, GCHQ.

    What I mean by this is as the UK law currently stands, even if DWP did go to GCHQ, unless you have committed a criminal act and or a terrorist, they couldn’t legally use any information against you, period stroke, period.


    January 31, 2015 at 6:02 am

  5. And so it starts

    Arm all police with tasers urged.


    British army to start disinformation war


    Oh what a beautiful world we have become, Orwell would be so proud.


    January 31, 2015 at 6:08 am

  6. 35 hour rule plus closure of benefit claim.

    Last week while waiting to sign on I overheard an advisor tell a claimant that they must search for work 35 hours a week and be able to demonstrate it in their evidence (currently universal credit doesn’t run in my area and isn’t on the list for upcoming areas) or face sanction contrary to the amended jobseekers act as regards work search evidence requirements for claimants still under JSA regulation.

    Also this claimant was informed that if it was deemed that after 2 months that they were incapable of getting work that their claim would be closed. In simple terms if this claimant could not get any employer to hire them in this period, then DWP would take the view that the person would never get a job so is not entitled benefit from that point forwards.

    Now regardless whether or not the first paragraph as any effect of improving a claimants chances of gaining meaningful employment or any employment for that fact, the second cannot be said can it not to be I quote, “supporting people back into work” ?

    It appears to me despite sanctions effectiveness and related suicides being under the spot light with damning evidence contrary to welfare ministers and high ranking civil servants claimed dispersions that its business as usual at the top.


    January 31, 2015 at 6:52 am

    • And if that person loses their benefit…..

      Some Jobcentre Plus staff use false names on their ID badges to protect their identities, the Department for Work and Pensions has revealed.



      January 31, 2015 at 12:05 pm

      • I reckon Working Links staff were using false names 5 years ago when they were harassing me on FND. I was trying to find their home addresses for distribution to their numerous victims – give ’em a taste of their own medicine – but no trace of them on the electoral roll and so on despite exhaustive searches. Gave it up as a bad job in the end, but it really wouldn’t surprise me to chance across the bastards going by different names in the future.


        February 1, 2015 at 10:00 am

      • Taste of their own medicine….? 😀 Like this… ? 👿


        February 2, 2015 at 7:53 pm

      • THEM

        February 2, 2015 at 7:54 pm

      • DOCTOR’S WARNING: Do not watch if you have heart problems or are of a nervous disposition.


        February 2, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    • More evidence of abuse of arbitrary power.

      This is the real scandal at the heart of the sanctions regime.

      It’s like a court where the judge makes up all the laws on the hoof.

      Andrew Coates

      January 31, 2015 at 12:08 pm

      • Well I know one bitch in the Eastbrook Court JCP in Bradford that has no choice but to use her real name, she has now been appointed to first contact for the people who are moved on to the Claimant Commitment.

        We have to accept this but due to revelations due to a court case currently running may not have to abide by this, pending on the case being resolved.

        She tried to get me to accept the ‘My Work Plan Booklet at the same time, (No Chance) I pulled out the FOI from the DWP that stated we didn’t have to accept it.

        She was lost for words and speechless.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        January 31, 2015 at 2:24 pm

      • What I particular like about enigma’s post link is the sentence,

        “Staff at the Pension Disability and Carers Service and those carrying out fraud investigations”.

        I mean correct me here if im mistaken but hasn’t it already been proved that the number of fraud cases is infinitesimally low and besides that, if DWP want to play cops and robbers then shouldn’t they have the pride and fortitude that police officers have when it comes to wearing your name on your badge as so to speak. I would have thought if its that dangerous then surely its a case for handing benefit fraud to the real police, you know those not afraid to take on the bad guy ?

        According to the civil service code under Honesty I quote,

        ” You MUST NOT deceive or knowingly mislead ministers, Parliament or others”.

        I rest my case.


        February 1, 2015 at 4:02 am

      • How do you sign on without a ‘my work plan’ booklet, Obi. “My work plan’ booklet is an integral part of the sign-on card!

        Princess Leia Organa

        February 3, 2015 at 8:36 am

      • … or have you just ripped the back page (the signing-on part) off… ? 😀

        Princess Leia Organa

        February 3, 2015 at 8:37 am

  7. Posted on 30/01/2015 by http://www.refuted.org.uk

    Comprehensive Evidence of Benefit Sanctions Targets.

    Today The Work and Pensions Committee published concrete evidence of targets for benefit sanctions.

    Read PCS Union submission online – download (pdf)

    Disturbing graph of @UKLabour & @Conservatives policies to punish people, from page 18 of the ‘A cross-area analysis of UK sanctioning’ report.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    January 31, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    • Obi Wan Kenobi

      January 31, 2015 at 1:07 pm

      • From the graph (above) alone, it’s quite clear that the coalition government since coming to power in 2010 have seriously hammered benefit claimants.

        However it’s presented to IDS it’s gonna be a bitter pill to swallow, I would normally say at this point:

        How the hell do we get rid of Iain Duncan Smith as Secretary for the Dept of Work and Pensions?

        But guess what, we really don’t have to ask that question anymore, because in roughly three months from now – hopefully he will be history when the Tories lose the General Election.

        Just to be vindictive I seriously hope someone wins against him in his local area for his seat in parliament as well.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        January 31, 2015 at 1:22 pm

      • I would really like to see a televised debate on welfare between IDS and Rachel Reeves. (hosted by Paxman) That would be well worth a watch.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        January 31, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    • During the second session meeting of the work and pensions committee I remember seeing that chart Obi Wan has kindly posted and It reminded me of a comment made during one of the two sessions where it was put that sanctions needed to be tightened dew to certain claimants knowing how to navigate the system.

      Now again correct me if my understanding is wrong but is that not saying that people who took the concerted pain staking effort to learn the regulations needed to be punished ?

      I would say give them a gold star actually as I have yet to meet a single civil servant in the department of work and pensions who does know the regulations using just their mind.

      And when we consider this comment what exactly are we talking about here, what regulations were they skirting, flouting or what ever you wish to call it that wasn’t covered under the original sanction rules ?


      February 1, 2015 at 4:17 am

  8. Hundreds of people were gathering today for a march to City Hall to protest over lack of affordable homes in London.

    Groups of protesters were gathering at Elephant and Castle and Shoreditch where rallying speeches were given ahead of the march this afternoon towards central London.

    People unfurled banners reading “People before profit” and “Build council homes. Take the wealth off the 1%”.

    In Shoreditch, campaigners held aloft a huge banner which read “this is the beginning of the end of the housing crisis.”

    Campaigners want London Mayor Boris Johnson to take steps to create a fairer housing market in the capital.

    They say Government housing policies have driven up rents, caused a lack of affordable homes and are contributing towards a rise in homelessness.

    They are also claiming a London housing crisis has been made worse by stagnant wages, zero-hours contracts and an unstable jobs market.



    January 31, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    • Enigma:

      The first domino has been tipped over (Greece – fed up of the cuts) and now Spain is wanting the same, it’s only a matter of time before the rest of the EU follows suit, and then Britain will jump in eventually and bring ‘OUR’ stupid Government to their knees.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      January 31, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      • Hey Obi Wan, did you see this weeks question time as even without our European counterparts, the British public are definitely calling time on the way our government and parties are behaving.

        You could see it on the politicians faces that their new enemy is a disfranchised pubic sick of austerity, sick of school boy name calling, sick of the use of statistics, sick of being ignored, sick of being a cash cow and I could go on and on and on.


        February 1, 2015 at 4:25 am

      • The truth is take a look at the great depression in the US, it took some eleven years to recover and how, a world war that made government enter into a massive spree of deficit spending and thus create jobs for all.

        Well actually I lied deliberately just like a politician and the reason I did is because I want to piss people off enough who don’t know about this stuff to want to read the link I’m going to give you now.


        DONT and I’m not aiming this at you Obi Wan or any who are already informed on such matters, BELIEVE FOR A SECOND that theirs any such 5 to 10 year fix to this incalculable global problem, that pulling your belt in and living within your means along with austerity is going to address.

        Politicians worldwide excluding the new party in Greece are white washing the fact over Greece’s intention to negate on its debt and what could be a full on domino effect.



        February 1, 2015 at 4:57 am

      • 5… 10… 25 year plans… this is straight out of Stalin’s book of tricks… like the pot of honey at the end of the rainbow (the end of ‘austerity’) the goalposts just keep on moving. Mind you we don’t want to lumber our children and their children’s children with a massive debt/deficit (there is a difference)… there that emotive con-trick will tick at your heart strings… 😀

        Think of the children and their children

        February 3, 2015 at 8:28 am

    • Good.

      When I hear what rents are in London – my home city – I can hardly believe it.

      This is where I come from, Haringey, which is is hardly the richest place in London (it is pretty mixed socially, from middle class to working class to really really poor).

      “This month, the average for rent price for property in Haringey is £1,027,”

      Andrew Coates

      January 31, 2015 at 3:35 pm

      • What all the people in Britain need to ask is:

        What is the value of the next Government Elect (2015 – 2019), bearing in mind the catastrophe the last coalition Government did (2010 – 2015).

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        January 31, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      • I do believe that everyone in this United Kingdom we call England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, wants an end to austerity, so why not make it happen.

        Oh wait! The 1% of the owner’s of 99% of the wealth of this country (or to put it basic terms MONEY) wouldn’t look to favourably on the current Conservative Party, should that happen.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        January 31, 2015 at 4:24 pm

      • Note the change in my Gravatar Icon – to Syriza!

        Andrew Coates

        January 31, 2015 at 4:46 pm

      • On the change of Gravatar Mr Coates Bravo Sas


        February 1, 2015 at 10:08 am

  9. Darth Duncan Smith —- Esther Who —- (Sorry No Title) Mr Fraud.

    The three knobheads who think they can get away with wasting £12 Billions of pounds PLUS of taxpayers money, without no re-course.

    See you in the Dock, Mr IDS MP, MR D Freud MP and Miss Esther McVey MP.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    January 31, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    • All of the MP’s named above have to explain to the Taxpayers of the UK where there expenditure has been spent over the last five years.

      WeIl, me and every other taxpayer wants to know – Mr Iain Duncan Smith.

      Answer the question please.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      January 31, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    • The usual figures are that they’ve spent £25bn to save £3bn.

      Another Fine Mess

      January 31, 2015 at 11:35 pm

      • Only because I love math am I saying this Another Fine Mess but that’s actually 3bn (if the figures are right and im not saying they aren’t period) A YEAR.

        Meaning the payback comes in 9 years if we didn’t spend a penny more which we know we are going to so its going to be longer in actuality with a 2bn profit in the ninth year and 3bn a year the subsequent years their after if we go with the figure of 25bn.

        I’m not saying we don’t need to replace the legacy system, just that now’s not the time.


        February 1, 2015 at 5:05 am


    Vote SYRIZA!!

    February 1, 2015 at 6:30 am

  11. Prison spin

    I thought my last post was my last post today but after viewing the news and seeing my old prison Coldingley in Woking where I finished the remainder of my sentence, I just had to comeback and have laugh.

    I can state FACT Chris Grayling is talking utter BOLLOCKS and if he thinks by showing the only decent working prison in the UK to kid the public to swallow his spins, then he’s got another thing coming.

    You know he’s talking so much crap I just don’t know where to start, truly I don’t.

    Well this make serving prisoners work hard so they know what a good days work is, is rubbish as for starters you don’t work that longer day or that hard while your at it as its just not possible in a prison system for a myriad of reasons.

    Secondly not just anyone can go to Coldingley so for most of the places that’s left its even less hours spent at work, especially when your talking about local prisons like the scrubs for example as you still spend most of the day banged up. Literally as soon as a butter knife goes missing ,every con gets locked up or in the case of the kitchens a much sort after post because, well, food is crap and there’s not a lot of it dished out per inmate there so what better place to work, you get locked into the kitchen with a few screws and a trained chef/supervisor.

    When I was a red band at scrubs during the start of my sentence you didn’t get told your working, you had to put in for it and even then it was limited to places once again for various reasons.

    Thirdly you cant make a con do anything they don’t want to do and im not talking law when I say that.

    As for when their released that will have no effect on short termers like for instance in my time if you were under 6 months you did the full time so what on earth can they have to make these lot comply, that’s right nothing. Unless your looking at people doing 4 plus year prison sentence’s you have little to nothing to hang over them (ie parole).

    Oh dear please don’t send me back to prison Mr Grayling, another stint after already being in prison three times on separate occasions is really to much to bare. I have one word for grayling,


    Believe it or not, if you can hack bird, life is actually easier as theirs very simple rules unlike the outside so as you can imagine after doing a 7 to 15 stretch the outside world is a very complicated place to adapt to for such a person.

    You would actually have more luck entering them into the army, another place that works on simple rules but we know that’s not going to happen now don’t we.

    Also how many employers can you count on your fingers who will hire ex-cons ?

    Then we have these private contractors on low and behold pay on results and we all know how that tick box exercise turned out in practice and in the courts.

    Seriously anyone believing this crap should please seek medical help immediately as your brain isn’t functioning right.


    February 1, 2015 at 7:26 am

    • or your on fkn crack puff puff 😉 there off the fkn heads ppl will get put in hospital doing that the knob heads all for profit, hope its worth it provider staff cos you will get it big time.

      super ted

      February 1, 2015 at 1:08 pm

      • hey maaaaaaaaaaaaaan… its like grayling talks sense maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan……..its a gas maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan… wanna drag maaaaaaaaaaaaaan????…………..


        February 2, 2015 at 7:47 pm

      • Yeah, well, you know, that’s just like, your opinion, man. 😀

        The Big Lebowski

        February 4, 2015 at 2:10 am

      • The Big Lebowski

        February 4, 2015 at 2:13 am

  12. Greece

    Firstly, his government wants to negotiate directly with European governments and not through EU officials. They are making their initial pitch to Paris and Rome, because they believe those governments are more sympathetic to Mr Tsipras’s argument that austerity has been a disaster for Europe.

    And that goes to the heart of why this will be such a complex negotiation. Syriza came to power in Greece by saying that the bailout conditions had broken the Greek economy and caused a humanitarian crisis.

    Greek voters and their hardship cannot simply be ignored. It risks only strengthening the anti-establishment parties elsewhere in Europe, many of which are sceptical of the whole European project.

    Spain, in particular, will play hardball. It faces an electoral challenge from Podemos, a similar party to Syriza. On Saturday, its leader Pablo Iglesias said “the wind of change is starting to blow in Europe”.



    February 1, 2015 at 2:20 pm

  13. Annos

    February 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm

  14. Property developers allowed to reduce affordable housing commitments.

    Housing developers in the UK could gain hundreds of millions of pounds in windfall profits under a new policy that lets them reduce contributions to building affordable housing or even avoid paying altogether, a council has claimed.

    Since December, the government has exempted anyone who turns an empty building into private housing from paying for further affordable units, even if they could do so and still make healthy profits.

    Among the first super-rich investors to have benefited from the change are the redevelopers of a luxury Mayfair apartment block in central London bought in 2013 by Abu Dhabi’s investment fund. Planners fear Qatar’s ruling family could be next to gain if their agents seek a multimillion-pound cut in the affordable housing bill on a £3bn redevelopment of Chelsea barracks.

    Shadow housing minister Emma Reynolds
    Shadow housing minister Emma Reynolds said: ‘This is yet another example of the government giving developers an opt-out from providing affordable housing.’ Photograph: Yui Mok/PA

    A senior official at Westminster city council, a Conservative-led borough, has described the government’s new vacant building credit as insane and estimated it could lose as much as £1bn in housing payments, deepening the accommodation crisis afflicting the poorest people.



    February 1, 2015 at 7:43 pm

  15. VOW PLUS

    Sticking to the main subject of this page, ie Housing Benefit to be stopped for 18 to 21 year-olds, there will be new Welfare powers for Scotland if Labour wins the next General Election – including control over Housing Benefit.

    The following report does not say if young people will be safe, though:



    February 2, 2015 at 8:08 am

  16. Tories use there own education reforms to get around privatising more schools


    After Gove changed the goal posts on exams, many schools pupils grades dropped this year leading to many in the education sector to question the usefulness of school tables. Despite this recent revelation the tories have seized on this to justify future privatisation.

    Admittedly they gave a list of options but tories being tories I can only see this going one way. This leads to the question had the particular goal post change not occurred, would we have seen a much different picture in the tables.


    February 2, 2015 at 8:59 am

  17. work progam providers cdg maximus, a4e jobcentreplus can drop dead i quit my job with cdg maximus because of the bullying i was supposed to inflict on disabled,autistic, jobseekers.forcing them into zero hrs contract jobs
    ian duncan smith may also drop dead the nazi pig.


    February 2, 2015 at 11:59 am

  18. Don’t forget this one;

    Work and Pensions Committee.

    9:30am Wednesday February 4th 2015.

    Benefit sanctions policy beyond the Oakley Review.

    Witness(es): Rt Hon Esther Mcvey, Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions and Chris Hayes, Director, Labour Market and International Affairs.


    The Wilson Room, Portcullis House.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 2, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    • We’ll be watching ’em like ‘awks, like ‘awks we will.

      Andrew Coates

      February 2, 2015 at 4:01 pm

      • I notice IDS ‘The Architect’ will not be in attendance, after all he should be, the welfare reform policies can (all of them) be traced back to him personally.

        What a fucking COWARD.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        February 3, 2015 at 8:38 am

  19. The political battle over the future of Universal Credit is heating up as the general election approaches, with the Conservative and Labour parties trading insults and accusations in an extraordinary exchange of letters.

    Shadow employment minister Stephen Timms wrote to secretary of state for work and pensions Iain Duncan Smith on 21 January 2015, after the latest Universal Credit update showed just 26,940 people were claiming the new benefit – less than 3% of Duncan Smith’s original forecast of one million people on the system by April 2014, according to Timms.



    February 2, 2015 at 10:03 pm

  20. My case history from unemployment to working poor after spanking a jobcentre adviser and to avoid mental illness I joined the labour market to avoid any more stress . My findings Abuse of workers rights forced self employment in costruction industry a4e, cdg maximus are forcing people into the building industry labourers 6.50 per hr, conditions of employment you register with HMRC as self employed.
    You are spoken to like a slave,sworn at,shouted at ridiculed by managment for doing your work dare you answer back no because you have no legal rights anymore david cameron as forced you to pay for industrial tribunial.
    This means you get no holiday pay you got a big headache every april to fill in a tax return form, you have to pay an accountant to avoid any mistakes on your form or you will receive a penalty.FROM THESE VULTURES PEN PUSHERS.
    You cannot enjoy the benefits like a normal job you are just a slave in david camerons uk big society UK are importing cheap foreign labour and dont care about immigration.
    Jobcentreplus,cdg maximus, a4e, hmrc revenue and customs,local councils,metropolitan police,courts,solicitors,judges are run by immigrants and treat thereown with more leaniancy when it comes to cross examination or means testing.


    Tony Montana

    February 3, 2015 at 4:49 am

    • Can you give any clarity on this Tony Montana as I have yet to see any drive by either DWP or provider on the front of putting claimants into the construction industry nationally. Im not doubting your words however as a CSCS holder as well as a multi skilled engineer am finding from personal experience a stark contrast to your words and I will explain.

      Firstly on the 1st July 2014 the way a CSCS card was gained was changed from sitting a simple test to having to attend a day course followed by a test. I approached DWP on this fact and found they had no idea this had occurred and to make matters worse at the time had no intention of funding the new approach which naturally cost more than the original track.

      Secondly from the construction industry side potential employers had put in place a requirement that in order to work on a site, a CSCS card had to be accompanied with 2 references from either a site manager or foreman/supervisor indicating only an interest for those who have come from within the industry be it prior or recently (having previous experience).

      Todate if anything rules have tightened and has recently seen the addition be it not labour class/mate/trainee distinct, the addition of yet another card namely the CPCS card.

      Thirdly and not of any importance but self employment has always been a part of the construction industry and the reason for this is because its a contract of service and not as some may think, person. Im not saying their aren’t ways to circumnavigate, just that the position be it self employed or PAYE is one that the employer decides and not DWP or provider.

      In earnest a labourer is actually better off self employed as,

      A: They get a I believe its called a start up fund meaning they can cover PPE cost, travel costs, etc.

      B: Being self employed means PPE cost, maintenance, reimbursement of CSCS cost if paid for, travel costs, accountant, etc is all tax deductible meaning your walk away with if you know what your doing or make the effort to learn to (free advice service available) with more money than say someone stacking shelves at a supermarket on the same rate but PAYE per annum.

      C: A self employed person cannot be sacked but rather the contract of service suspended meaning no 13 week wait for unemployment benefit.


      February 3, 2015 at 7:29 am

      • With self-employment you haven’t got a nice cushy, gold-plated pension to look forward to as do the civil service jobcentre fuckers… anyway fat chance of a building site labourer reaching retirement unless they get to retire at 47 on a full pension like a copper.


        February 3, 2015 at 8:45 am

  21. Has anyone heard about this article in some paper stating claimants to be made to sign on weekly, it was even cited as a trial.

    I ask as ive been while signing on and off, signing on a weekly basis for ages so don’t understand why such an article exists.


    February 3, 2015 at 7:32 am

    • Claimants may have to sign on weekly


      Excuse me but what a load of bull as ive been signing weekly for ages and to poke an eye further, this has remained regardless of finding temp work so signing on and off contrary to the claim its been done as a trial in limited areas (I do not fall into the areas mentioned).

      Lastly but not least, how can this possibly cut costs to the welfare bill when you consider 2.6 days does not out gross the cost of the intended frontline service needed. Personally I see not only further costs to the claimant in terms of extra travel meaning less to live on but longer waits while signing on meaning even less time to jobsearch not to mention increased pressure on DWP staff already under the gun with impossible workloads.

      It could be me but this and that tosh delivered by Chris Grayling the other day appears to be the Tories regurgitating already practiced or covered crap all to look good for the up coming elections as though they have done something new and effective along with still desperately trying to shrink overall expenditure or should I say the appearance of, that has seen our national debt far exceed that while under labour (remember it was labour that bailed out the banks when you consider their respective debt).


      February 3, 2015 at 8:01 am

      • It could be a case of regurgitation, gaia: only yesterday Grayling announced the up-coming ‘flagship’ ‘work programme’ which will allow ‘providers’ to make a ‘shed-load of cash”.

        Irritable Bowel

        February 3, 2015 at 8:14 am

      • It’s just more bull Gaia, if you remember they came out with similar bull with regards to the 35 hour a week jobsearch which all JSA claimants had to do or else, this was quickly blown out of the water via an FOI stating that it was for Universal Credit claimants only.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        February 3, 2015 at 8:31 am

      • Signing on more than once every two weeks is just to stop the accused of making any money on the side, it’s just more pressure for those who sign on more than once every two weeks.

        It seems that all those who have to sign on more than once every two weeks are those not working for their benefits, (those of us who know a rule or two)


        February 3, 2015 at 8:41 am

      • Yes, we put you on MFA (more frequent attendance if we think you are working ‘on the side’.

        Jobcentre Insider

        February 3, 2015 at 8:50 am

      • And all because those of us that can not be forced by JC advisers to do such things, for we know some of the rules and regs.


        February 3, 2015 at 8:59 am

      • “Such things” schemes,


        February 3, 2015 at 9:04 am

      • Well they must be trained in Precognition then as im put on it the moment I make a fresh new claim after just becoming unemployed, before receiving any notification that im even entitled to benefit let alone getting it.

        I’ve got to say how do the Tories, better still any politicians expect people to vote for them if all they do is lie every second of the day. I mean doesn’t it just demonstrate how weak their respective polices are and the lack of faith they have in them ?

        I suppose this is what we have come to expect when you consider all they ever do is pour out the same garbage the books do that they read and get lectured on at university.

        You know I think the next time I sign on im going to ask my advisor for the lottery numbers.


        February 3, 2015 at 10:05 am

      • You know what, that last bit I said reminds me of a moment in good will hunting,

        Can you guess what part Cameron plays ?


        February 3, 2015 at 10:16 am

  22. EAT THE RICH!!!!

    Vote CLASS WAR!!

    February 3, 2015 at 8:08 am

  23. This is unbelievable: – Please note the amount £12.5 Billion Pounds.

    Link unemployment benefit to personal contributions, urges thinktank.

    An unemployment insurance scheme reflecting personal contributions is being examined by the Treasury as it seeks £12.5bn in welfare savings for if the Conservatives are re-elected in May.


    Isn’t that roughly the amount that Iain Duncan Smith has wasted on Universal Credit, follow the link for that revelation below.


    Someone has cocked up here, it’s so easy to see what’s going on, they want to claw back the £12.5 Billion wasted by IDS by hammering benefit claimants for something that clearly is IDS’s fault.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    February 3, 2015 at 3:27 pm

  24. Smells of Americanisation to me.

    As for timing that’s cheap when you consider the current debate on the release of the chilcot report.

    As for this thinktank group only a mere 3% of the population have more than 3 kids so its hard to not see it as a personal attack on a section by majority which are ill equipped to defend themselves.

    As for a new contribution scheme how does that work when you consider the present unemployed, are they saying its ok to make them instantly penniless and then homeless. How do these then reclimb the social ladder from so low.

    I could go on ripping holes in this train of thought so if adopted just says how far fallen social ideals have become.


    February 4, 2015 at 10:32 am

  25. Mass action against ‘MAXIMUS’ the new Work capability Assessment provider in Ipswich 2nd March 2015 from 1pm. join Suffolk DPAC (disabled people against cuts) at the medical assessment centre, St Felix House, Silent Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, IP1 1TF.

    The government decided to IGNORE the numerous scandals that have embroiled the company in the US and accept their artificially low tender bid.
    This is not the only lucrative contract the Tories have awarded to this company.

    Maximus are also involved in helping to privatise the NHS, running the Fit for Work occupational health service designed to bully and harass people on sick leave into going back to work.

    Maximus also run the NOTORIOUS work programme in some parts of the UK, meaning that disabled people found fit for work by Maximus may then find themselves sent on workfare by Maximus.

    MAXIMUS have been found guilty of massive frauds against the US gov’t, Disability, race & Gender discrimination and forced to pay out MILLIONS in compensation for botched IT projects and fined for improper expense claims.

    MAXIMUS have boasted they will not face protests due to their involvement in the Work Capability Assessment’s and have even stooped as low as hiring one prominent former disability campaigner on a huge salary in an effort to quell protests against their activities. We urgently need to show them how wrong they are and call for all disabled people, benefit claimants and supporters to organise against this vicious bunch of profiteering thugs.


    February 4, 2015 at 6:57 pm

  26. Under the Govt’s new “plans”, I was forced to start an absolutely disastrous, hopeless 4-week assignment today (to which I shall NOT return) even after providing the Job centre with a testimonial from a volunteer centre where I have worked far in excess of 120 hours in the last twenty months, and where I had already agreed to be today before Seetec -a contractor for the Govt- told me I would NOT be allowed to!

    I am more than willing to work, but the Govt is not helping itself to be re-elected in just three months time with this harsh policy!

    Edward Quinn

    February 26, 2015 at 11:16 pm

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