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Ipswich MP, Ben Gummer, Stirs up hatred of Unemployed.

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Choosing Not To Work Must No Longer Be An Option

This is when Ben Gummer a few months back – there is no evidence that he changed his views since.

Apart from attempting to stir up divisions between migrant workers and  other people this is his conclusion,

Long term unemployment is falling too, but is still far too high: 740 people in Ipswich have been out of work for more than twelve months. For those that want to get a job, the amount of support they receive is now greater than ever before – in skills, in training, in interview practice and in work placements. But there is still a small number who are unwilling to make a go of it. Our benefit reforms have made it much harder for such people to choose to live on benefits – and the prime minster has promised that, should he win the next election, we will do more. I support this: when there is the possibility of work, everyone in this town should have the opportunity – and duty – to work. Otherwise, it is the rest of us – the low paid included – who must pay for that lifestyle decision.

I note this on his Twitter feed (17th December):

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Gummer, who obviously has read some gibberish in a Tory press release rather than understood anything about long-term unemployment, feebly replied that there are lots of new jobs out there.

And there is this in Wikipedia,

 Gummer is the eldest child of former Conservative Cabinet Minister John Gummer, Baron Deben, and Penelope Jane Gardner. John Gummer was MP for Suffolk Coastal until the 2010 general election, when he moved to the House of Lords. Gummer attended St Saviour’s Church of England Primary School in Ealing, west London. Between 1987 and 1991 he was a chorister at St John’s College, Cambridge, where he sang under George Guest and Christopher Robinson. Gummer was a music scholar at Tonbridge School in Kent. Having won the Vellacott Historical Essay Prize he took a starred double first in History at Peterhouse, Cambridge, where he was an exhibitioner and scholar.

After graduating, Gummer became director of ICWL, a small engineering firm handling water-cooled refrigerators,[and between 2005 and 2010 was Managing Director of family-owned Sancroft International, a company set up and led by his father John Gummer; in his five-year tenure the company’s size more than doubled.

MP for the Ipswich constituency in the general election of 2010,

Mr Gummer is the author of the following:

The Scourging Angel: The Black Death in the British Isles. London: 2009.

In October 2013 he became PPS to the Education Secretary, Michael Gove.When Gove became Chief Whip in the 2014 reshuffle, Gummer became PPS to Nicky Morgan.

Oh yes, he really has a lot in common with the low paid…..

He has indeed had a lot lifestyle choices as well.



Written by Andrew Coates

December 30, 2014 at 11:55 am

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  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.


    December 30, 2014 at 1:02 pm

  2. Ben Gummer: Fuck off.

    jj joop

    December 30, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    • Yeah, do people still buy the fact that there are jobs for everyone out there and the only reason people are unemployed is the lifestyle decision/choice of not looking for and securing work?

      The annoying thing is, its not exactly like Ben graduated and found work the traditional way. Even graduates find it extremely hard to find work. Now he has done his work experience/internship at the highest level he will probably stick around for a while in political circles. I would be disappointed with people if they re-elect him…

      Universal Jobmatch

      December 30, 2014 at 2:40 pm

  3. A bit of Trivia:

    Ben Gummer has never been to a (proper) job interview.

    As stated above he held the post of Managing Director at Sancroft International. But his Dad gave him the job. Not exactly working your way up through a family-owned/run business. He was formally on probation in such role and was a “CV filler” for when he entered politics…

    Companies House…

    Look at the dissolved company ICWL… http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05492278/ICWL-LIMITED/financial-accounts Wasn’t really doing too well. To be kind.

    Registered Office addresses of: “46 Queen Annes Gate, London, SW1H 9AP” (Sancroft) – Ben Gummer also has a service address there.

    A bit of digging places Mr Gummer initially a director of SANCROFT EXECUTIVE SERVICES LIMITED (not Sancroft International, for transparency purposes you can be an MD without being a Director, and vice versa) in 2003.

    http://companycheck.co.uk/company/04628352/SANCROFT-EXECUTIVE-SERVICES-LIMITED/financial-accounts Not looking so impressive. Sancroft Executive Services is a 50/50 venture between Sancroft International and another director of that business.

    He wasn’t a director of Sancroft International until 06/04/2009 – over 6 years later.

    Further research doesn’t look too good either. He was a director of BLUE CONTROL SYSTEMS LIMITED (now dissolved), AMBIO LIMITED (since resigned his directorship (07/2009-01/2012), wholly owned by Sancroft – not doing too badly http://companycheck.co.uk/company/03203131/AMBIO-LIMITED/financial-accounts ), and director of EARTHCARE PRODUCTS LIMITED (for under a year, now in liquidation, looks like Sancroft sold this business a long time ago or might not have been related).

    Basically, he remains a director of Sancroft International, Blue Control and ICWL were dissolved whilst he had a directorship, and he resigned (directorship) from Earthcare products, Sancroft Executive and Ambio.

    IMO, it all smells a little fishy, had much success under Sancroft International “doubling” the company size… its a serious business (value over £1m, cash in bank around about £100k) but nothing to write home about (“International” is overselling it a bit, although they have an international base), however, hadn’t done much with other directors to improve the fortunes of these other businesses.

    I would guess, he was allowed to play around with these other less serious businesses such as Sancroft Executive whilst claiming credit for the larger business which sounds pretty special until you look at the accounts. Maybe he was the proper MD, doubling the company size isn’t so tricky at the size it was, maybe it was a job share or shadowed by a CEO position.

    Either way, history book writing aside, this deceptive facade of this intelligent pro-business MP seems to have more holes in it than a sponge! Ben Gummer’s Enterprise Island… are you having a laugh?! Its like a successful multiple-market stall trader applying to be COO of Tescos.

    I bet Ben is watching Spongebob right now…

    Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

    Universal Jobmatch

    December 30, 2014 at 2:21 pm

  4. Everyone knows inc gov, that there is not enough jobs for everyone, one reason is of course because there are just too many people (hundreds or even thousands applying for the same position) which will be a lot worse in the future, so the idea is for everyone who is unemployed and who ever will be in the future, will work full time for their benefits, though in the future it won’t be called benefits because the benefits system will have abolished, (if they get their way) we all know that’s what they want, all will receive the minimum pay, just enough to survive. lower that what we receive currently. as now there will be sanctions but in future they will be a lot worse.


    December 30, 2014 at 3:35 pm

  5. C.A.B.

    We will be closed from 1pm on Wednesday 24th December and will reopen on Friday 2nd January

    Today at the food bank, 2 people appeared for food but didn’t have a voucher because of the above, we gave them 7 bags full, millions going hungry and C.A.B’S are closed, useless, and there was us thinking it would be a busy day, food bank is open again tomorrow but it will be the same, of course there will be some people who think that because they can’t get a voucher that they can’t get food, so they won’t appear for food and instead go hungry.


    December 30, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    • It is getting worrying how many people come on to our website searching for food banks (Ipswich, Bury St Edmunds etc) and government food vouchers.

      A quick look at the all-time stats reveal…. (not fully exhaustive, just selected example)

      food bank ipswich 216
      ipswich food bank 207
      food bank ipswich suffolk 104
      food banks in ipswich 58
      food banks ipswich 56
      food bank in ipswich 35
      food bank ipswich uk 34
      bury st edmunds food bank 28
      food bank bury st edmunds 26
      find food bank ipswich 26

      At a quick count I make that 790!!!

      These are search terms sent through from Google, Bing etc.

      Universal Jobmatch

      December 30, 2014 at 4:20 pm

      • Very true Universal.

        Gummer seems to think we should all be working in a food processing plant – fine for some people when they young and fit, and whose ambition is get money regardless.

        Not a majority group amongst the long-term unemployed I suspect.

        It also should be pointed out that Gummer wants to make sure that those in low-paid jobs remain low-paid.

        Gummer’s Tory mates on Suffolk County Council voted against the Living Wage.

        I also noted a few years back that Gummer’s company has some incredibly posh address in St James.

        I also know a chap who’s out living on the streets right now who’d be glad for that kind of helping hand.

        Andrew Coates

        December 30, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      • And of course there will also be those who don’t have computers etc or internet access, so we can imagine or rather not what the true amount would be.


        December 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      • Yeah, not bad… Grade I listed building in St James next door to the Ministry of Justice!

        Has Ben Gummer been to a food bank?

        As mentioned elsewhere ( https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/2014/12/20/ipswich-2015-can-ben-gummer-improve-the-town/ ) Ben doesn’t seem particularly interested in the poor (surprise, surprise) or into getting people into work. Cannot say I am surprised that he jumped behind the MYGO project.

        So if there were only 740 people unemployed in the Ipswich area I can see many people fooling for the spin that is “full employment” by the year 2020.

        Looking at benefit sanction statistics I can see this number (including changes since) falling due to benefit sanctions.

        Universal Jobmatch

        December 30, 2014 at 4:51 pm

      • The person who says Iain Duncan Smith is a working class “hero” has got a little upset to this post Andy lol

        https://ariversideview.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/response-to-comrade-coates-2/ Looks like it took about 30 seconds to type and proof-read.

        Universal Jobmatch

        December 30, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      • He was writing it in the library about an hour ago – spluttering with rage and then chortling – with his own witty reply.

        I hear that the man himself Kevin Algar (Riverside View) is standing in the council elections next May.

        Such is the quality of Ipswich Tory candidates…..

        Andrew Coates

        December 30, 2014 at 5:42 pm

      • He must have moved up in the world since. A few years back I could have sworn he lived on a council estate in Ipswich.

        Regardless of his chosen political party and passion for his beliefs he does seem to have a lot of rage, where if elected might end up in some interesting attacks upon Labour councillors.

        Universal Jobmatch

        December 30, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    • The 740 unemployed people in Ipswich making that lifestyle decision – unemployed people in this term means those signing on and not sanctioned etc.- or so Ben Gummer states… The 790 figure (not exhaustive I skimmed through the list of search terms) minus 54 for Bury St Edmunds leaves 736…

      I am not saying for instance that all these 736 or 740 people…
      a) All Use food banks, and
      b) All click through on to IUA

      Its clear that many low-paid working families are using food banks.

      Its clear some unemployed people will also use food banks and not all will be signing on.

      Its highly probable that the majority of people using the local Ipswich food bank wouldn’t have seeked information online, if they had wouldn’t have clicked on our website (especially if working family) as looking solely for information on food bank and… since changes with Google search its less possible to pick up referrer information (assuming anyone has it enabled!) … 106,175 “unknown search terms” on IUA, we have no clue about since Google respected privacy more.

      WordPress information, (if anyone interested…)

      Some search engines don’t reveal search terms for privacy reasons. That’s why we don’t always know which search terms were used by visitors who arrived at your site from a search engine. When we don’t know the search terms, we show them as “Unknown search terms”.

      UPDATE: In September 2013 Google started to rapidly expand the number of searches that it encrypts, which results in a higher proportion of “Unknown search terms” in your stats. According to some sources, this expansion will eventually result in encryption of all Google searches. This is being done for privacy reasons by Google when someone searches at Google.com, before a visitor arrives at your WordPress.com site. Therefore we don’t have any way to unhide the search terms. We recognize this means a loss of stats information for you and we will look for other ways to show you how users arrived at your site.

      Universal Jobmatch

      December 30, 2014 at 4:35 pm

  6. […] The latest diatribe has the sensational title of “Ipswich MP, Ben Gummer, Stirs up hatred of Unemployed.” and can be read here. […]

  7. Here is an interesting image of IDS made from the faces of many of his dead benefit victims. (You will need to enlarge the photograph many times, before you can begin to see the individual faces which make up the overall photograph of IDS):


    One of his victims,Graham Shawcross, won his appeal 4 months after he (Graham Shawcross) died!


    December 30, 2014 at 5:52 pm

  8. “For those that want to get a job, the amount of support they receive is now greater than ever before”

    This a complete joke.anyone who left the work programme now finds themselves targeted for extreme unjustified abuse,labeled,given no help,only ridicule of what was told ok while on the work programme,this twelve months after finishing.

    Vicious attempts to remove them from the benefits system for good,regardless of their circumstances or welfare,disabled or not.which is treated with complete denial,even if proof exists.

    Life has become cheap in the uk.


    December 31, 2014 at 4:52 am

    • As well as a lot of other countries.


      December 31, 2014 at 9:38 am

      • As in Australia

        The new laws that take effect on New Year’s Day

        A roundup of how the Coalition’s hard-fought legislation will affect families, people with disabilities and asylum seekers, among other Australians.


        Changes to the indexation of family benefits will come into effect from New Year’s Day, and the primary earner income limit for the family tax benefit part B will be reduced from $150,000 to $100,000. Only families earning less than $100,000 will be eligible for the schoolkids bonus.

        Untaxed superannuation income and accounts-based pensions will be included as part of the asset test for the commonwealth seniors card, and the income threshold for seniors to get the card will also be reduced.

        But the Senate rejected the proposal to increase the pension age to 70 from 67.

        “The changes to the pension that this government is proposing are unfair, and they’re also a broken promise from a prime minister who said very clearly ‘no changes to the pension’,” the acting Labor leader, Penny Wong, said.

        Centrelink support payments can be suspended for those who fail to attend meetings with potential employers, as the government tries to stamp out people who “game the system”. But its toughest measure – cutting off dole payments for under 30s for the first six months of their unemployment – was rejected by Labor and the Senate crossbench.

        A number of national partnership arrangements that link school leavers with jobs in their desired industry also end on 31 December. Students will only be able to travel for six weeks before their support payments are cut off, and relocation scholarships for students who have to move between metropolitan areas to study will be restricted.

        People on youth allowance payments will receive a little extra money, as the allowance increases by $6.20 a week. States will receive an extra $406m to ensure access to early childhood education programs.

        Low-income earners will lose the clean energy subsidy from New Year’s Day.



        December 31, 2014 at 9:55 am

  9. Chancellor George Osborne indicated he was planning to unleash a fresh raid on benefits to help salvage the nation’s financial fortunes,



    December 31, 2014 at 9:17 am

  10. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.


    December 31, 2014 at 10:19 am

    • “Britain Isn’t eating” because C.A.B.’s are closed until 2nd Jan, so no one is appearing in this food bank for the hungry are unable to get themselves a voucher. reblog this A6er


      December 31, 2014 at 12:09 pm

  11. It may be just the holiday spirit but I think most people must have missed this:

    DWP says “no legal requirement for Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants to undertake 35 hours of Work Search…each week”.

    “As there is no legal requirement for Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants to
    undertake 35 hours of Work Search Activity each week, no legislation or
    national guidance stating otherwise exists.”


    Above quote is despite Jobcentre ‘Advisers’/Work Coaches seeking to impose a 35 hour a week Jobsearch requirement for JSA, when such a requirement only exists for Universal Credit and disclosing information that the 35 hour requirement existed for ‘New Style JSA’.

    The JSA Supervised Jobsearch Pilot is a randomised trial involving a 35 hour a week jobsearch provision at DWP provider premises.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 31, 2014 at 10:52 am

    • A few on here will be very pleased!


      December 31, 2014 at 11:26 am

      • But then a lot will be on the SJS for they won’t know the truth.


        December 31, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      • Enigma:

        SJSP – Meaning – ‘Pilot’ – not a fully commenced scheme throughout the UK yet.

        Pilot schemes are usually limited to certain area’s only.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        December 31, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      • I was thinking beyond “Pilot” just thinking ahead rather than the current times.


        December 31, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      • “As there is no legal requirement for Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants to
        undertake 35 hours of Work Search Activity each week

        Their not interested in the law,they just continue to dig themselves a bigger hole legally.hoping people just disappear from the system first, and not return or appeal.

        Keeps the High Court busy too.


        January 1, 2015 at 2:03 am

    • There will be a new post about this shortly.

      The problem with FoI is despite the 400,000 requests made since it came in….

      a) Has to relate directly to information held – granted you cannot ask questions, however, sometimes its useful for their interpretation of information rather than it in its raw form.

      Some FoI requests give opinions/formal advice on matters, very much like this one. A request in its rawer form would have said along the lines of “The department holds no guidance on 35 hour job searching and there is no legislation in force of which we are aware of that requires this.”

      b) Public Bodies deliberately exceed time limits… some public requests (WhatDoTheyKnow) are overdue by a year or more

      c) FoI departments get paid more than MPs! The statutory limit set in law. The “appropriate limit” is £600 for central Government and £450 for non-central public bodies.This limit needs to exist to prevent people requesting mass vexatious amounts of information (effectively an inquiry rather than enquiry) costing bodies up to millions of pounds each time.

      I have personally made requests before which are rejected in whole or part due to exceeding this amount. When in reality, the cost of someone spending just 30 minutes finding this information wouldn’t have cost anywhere more than a fraction of this. Whereas I appreciate they have hundreds of other requests to research, its not my problem and doesn’t relate directly to my FoI request!

      d) Sign-posting to information already publicly available. Makes sense. Except if you made a request of (to summarise…) “You have published some figures for 2012/2013 on your website, but I am looking for ([something more specific from 2012/2013]) which isn’t available. Please provide this preferably in excel format”… and some clever skim-reading ninja ignores the request to clear a backlog of requests and respond with (something along the lines of)… “[We] have published [those] figures for 2012/2013 on [our] website at ([…])”.

      e) Exceptions relating to commercial sensitivity, economy. defence and the like. Yawn. A prime case being, giving details of workfare “employers” would damage the DWPs ability to keep good commercial terms with the private sector etc. (How exactly!?)

      Some exemptions are reasonable like national security, court records, ongoing cases etc.

      f) FoI reviews… where someone more “senior” than the original person has briefly looked at the “case” and fully agrees with the original (in the vast majority of cases). No names are ever given. Its a template. Its probable that most of the time it is the same person.

      g) Exemptions surrounding “personal information” which typical results in refusal of requests where a list of contact names for senior job positions is requested or otherwise senior names are redacted from FoI information.

      You aren’t digging for personal contact details, a birth certificate or passport scan. This overreaction results in lack of accountability.

      h) We hold this information, but wont give you it, as we intended to publish it in about 2 years time! (“Information intended for future publication”) This is so frustrating as information is pretty time sensitive. Some information is deliberately withheld for political reasons and the timescales of getting this lifted usually results in getting the information when its already been released, common knowledge or de to be released in a month or so anyway.

      i) Public Interest test etc. The whole concept behind Freedom of Information is to reveal what our servants are doing with our taxes and the administration/parliament we voted in. Its rare for this test to go in favour of the public making the request.

      Universal Jobmatch

      January 1, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    • PCS are concerned


      35 hours weekly job searching may be a requirement of Universal Credit but it is a long way from being delivered and is not supported by current JSA legislation.

      Worryingly members have reported being marked down at the mid year appraisal point for not adhering to this perverse instruction.

      Sandra’s 14 Asks

      Sandra’s 14 Asks

      Sandra’s 14 Asks raise several other areas of concern.

      The vision of busy Jobcentres runs counter to expectations expressed by managers over several years where there has been a drive to avoid “footfall” in Jobcentres. Busier Jobcentres will create safety issues for PCS members working in Jobcentres. Proper measures will need to be in place to mitigate against the higher risks.

      In the document Sandra emphasises many ways in which people will be expected to work differently. This will cause problems if members are not fully supported to deliver these changes and stress levels will rise further on top of the stress experienced after the hasty introduction of Unipods.


      1 Busy Jobcentres
      2 Get to 50% weekly work search in the next 15 days
      3 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 with more emphasis on daily work search
      4 “Show me” not “tell me”
      5 Are your computers busy?
      6 Quality of interventions
      7 What service is the claimant getting?
      8 What are providers delivering in terms of getting better quality?
      9 Are your group sessions frequent and full?
      10 Employer contribution (greater involvement and participation)
      11 Keep explaining the “why”
      12 Make sure that your Universal Credit 90 day plan and the Help to Work and SR13 flight paths are aligned
      13 Genuine 35 hour work search (both in Universal Credit and in the Supervised Jobsearch Pilots)
      14 Use the six e-learning packages around digital

      Universal Jobmatch

      January 1, 2015 at 6:47 pm

      • No help for claimants in jobcentres, only harassment. that’s certainly true.


        January 1, 2015 at 7:36 pm

  12. Very eloquently, well written article. The reason we have much unemployment, low pay, and absolute and relative poverty Is because of the politicians that lead us have little connection to ordinary people with ordinary lives, and have been born with a silver spoon in their mouths. Our current politicians have privileged social connections, which In turn lead to top jobs without having to provide any evidence that they are capable of doing their Jobs.

    Nothing short of economic and political revolution Is required.


    December 31, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    • Iain Duncan Smith for one!

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      December 31, 2014 at 1:43 pm

  13. A lot of vacant businesses in Ipswich still.


    Of course, quite naturally, figures are skewed… they reflect liability to business rates and not whether a business is actually trading there. Furthermore, excludes information on staffing numbers.

    I would have a guess that the desperation of the Labour council buying up the Sproughton Sugar Beet factory site and trying to acquire their old HQ site on Civic Drive, shows some panic.

    IBC doesn’t have a good record. Their current HQ has retail units below them (about 5?) – with emphasis on a pretty poor isolated location – as things stand 1 unit is still vacant, the premier store closed for ages now replaced with a costcutters, all the units remained unoccupied for ages initially …and 1 of the units was eventually turned into a coffee shop. We wont even mention the town centre!

    Universal Jobmatch

    December 31, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    • And in Bradford we have this behemoth currently under construction called The Westfield Centre where our city centre’s comforting ‘Big Hole’ used to be for 6 years, from Hall Ings to Forster Square.

      This is hoped to bring new shoppers into Bradford from the West Yorkshire area and beyond (No Chance) but more importantly it will see a lot of the city centre shops become vacant as the larger and medium sized stores relocate to this new behemoth who no-one in Bradford asked for.

      In short more jobs lost!

      Follow the link for a demo video and details.


      Obi Wan Kenobi

      December 31, 2014 at 1:59 pm

      • There are claims of 2,500 retail jobs for that Westfield Centre.

        Taking into account:
        a) They will be mostly part time,
        b) The centre wont get up to capacity for a few years,
        c) Shops will shed staff over time – these shopping centres are insanely expensive to be apart of – doesn’t always justify footfall and sales
        d) It is highly unlikely that the centre will ever stay full, and
        e) Planning Departments never (for a project of this scale) take into account the loss to employment in other areas

        West Yorkshire (the inclusive larger catchment/urban area) has about 1.8 million residents, Bradford is just over half a million I think, about 1150 FTE jobs give or take (assuming it was full capacity) isn’t all too significant and is likely to cause shock-waves in the wider neighbouring area too.

        People love brand new novel shopping centres. The council will love the business rates this Westfield project generates!

        Although it is on a tiny scale, here in Ipswich they did something a little different… they planned to half the length of the town and focus on getting people to walk down to the wet dock I assume to go to Issacs (pub) or a cafe… which exist in the town centre, in numbers! Thus statistically it means more shops are full (due to less shops) and the two shopping centres and large department stores like Debenhams, M&S and Primark take advantage of increased footfall, and less competition.

        Universal Jobmatch

        December 31, 2014 at 4:35 pm

  14. Switching to another Tach:

    I was talking to an Asian taxi driver the other day here in Bradford (an older gentleman who had been living in here since the early 70’s) and trust me even they are getting worried about the current immigrant influx regarding jobs.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 31, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    • I don’t have the money to take taxis but if I did I wouldn’t get my political opinions from taxi drivers!

      Andrew Coates

      December 31, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      • Andy I don’t mean this to sound off or wrong but, my city of Bradford and others around England and I dare to say some in Scotland, seem to always have the newcomer’s shall we say ‘GET THE INFLUX’

        How about next time we have an influx of immigrant’s from wherever, they all get dumped in:

        1: Iain Duncan Smith’s constituency
        2. David Cameron’s constituency
        3. Lord Fraud’s constituency
        4. Or basically anywhere near Westminster.

        Who’s up for that?

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        December 31, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      • Would be a good political stunt to private hire a few coaches, load them up and dispatch the people to IDS and DC constituencies… except at the end of the day, they are people, and would be inhumane to dump them in IDS territory. Half of them might not get out alive. No laughing matter. Or he’d probably chain them up and get them to displace the council staff.

        Potential good comedy sketch too though, get around 200-250 migrants speaking very little English to flood (walk-in not soak the place) a jobcentre over a 20-30 minute period. Jobcentre Plus staff reactions would be priceless.

        The language barrier would make it a nightmare for security. This said, G4S would be of a worry, with past cases of their employees. Just like Serco, allegedly.

        Universal Jobmatch

        December 31, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      • Public sector job cuts, JC advisers wages are dropped to that of JSA. would be a nice day.


        December 31, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    • Andy, – no choice – had to take my 82 year old mum shopping in taxis, there and back as it would have been very unadvisable to let an 82 year old woman walk on pure ice with a walking stick, up to the supermarket, the weather was freezing with a lot of ice up here in Bradford during the xmas week, until late yesterday the pathway’s have been frozen with rock hard ice.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      December 31, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      • Sorry.

        Here us soft southerners (Ipswich is also not far from the sea) don’t get that kind of weather.

        Andrew Coates

        December 31, 2014 at 4:28 pm

      • Andy, I know your sound as a pound, I’ve actually managed to save enough up over the last couple of month’s for a 70cl bottle of cheap vodka for tonight’s new year celebrations.


        ***HAPPY 2015***

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        December 31, 2014 at 4:54 pm

      • It’s a bottle of white wine (the only alcohol I drink) for me, I have managed to save to go out too.

        Have a good time tonight whatever you all do.


        December 31, 2014 at 5:08 pm

      • Hope everyone had a decent NYE.

        Fingers crossed the most of us can have a Happy New Year… the outlook is really dire. Especially with the General Election looming. But there is hope…

        Universal Jobmatch

        January 1, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    • Its not a race issue. There are a few major factors:-

      The first is hype in the MSM coupled with figures and claims mentioned by MPs typically without citing a source. A lot of it is scaremongering. A lot of this appears to be a “hint” to tackle immigration properly and not to prevent it… although some parties goes to extremes.

      The second is overseas-recruitment-only agencies, where UK-based people don’t get a look in (including migrants who have came here looking for work).

      The third is a general lack of jobs – lots of new jobs do genuinely get created – but this is subject to a rising population (births and migrants; granted this is counter balanced with deaths and Brits migrating to find work abroad) and people losing their jobs all the time (business insolvency/liquidation,dismissals,redundancies, zero hour contracts, workfare etc). – IMO not enough jobs are being created to be relatively sustainable for current population levels.

      The forth is the EU imposing (IMO..) unworkable policies in regards to immigration. There isn’t much leeway whilst upholding principles of freedom of movement etc. which must be kept however various member states want the rules reworked a little.

      The fifth is consequences of capitalism. The rich are very rich, the poor is very poor, and very little variation in between. The rich are getting richer, the poorer are getting poorer. Wealth distribution is getting worse. Global corporations and large pension funds pretty much rule most of business. Only a handful of rich and/or influential people have the control. As time is progressing, history is somewhat repeating itself. The modern “hire a skilful person at a competitive wage in return for their services to make the business/employer significant monies” is going out of the window. Even the most qualified, skilled and experienced workers do not have that job security anymore, typically are underpaid in regards to their skill set and too much emphasis on them needing the job rather than the employer needing them (i.e. cheaper to get someone on workfare or apprentice etc. to cover, wont yield as much but lower cost)

      Universal Jobmatch

      December 31, 2014 at 5:15 pm

      • There are links between them, for example, the fifth factor – its less about the person now, which is why the second factor is an issue. They don’t care about your life history, just want someone with a good work ethic who is cheap (and not bothered about labour rights and H&S)… so they recruit abroad. No one has bothered to assess peoples’ work ethics etc. here because its more expensive to do so than have an operation set up elsewhere in Europe etc. Furthermore, some of the underhand practices going on would be “whistle-blown” in 15 minutes. Its pretty difficult here now to get that “casual labour”.

        The first factor and fourth factor (I left out the u in my original post, silly me lol – bloody typo!!) are obviously linked.

        The third factor and fifth factor are clearly linked. So many businesses work by cost cutting these days – get enough staff to get the operation going, then slowly implement redundant/dismissed etc. job responsibilities or roles on to existing staff for the same pay and hours. There is indeed efficiency, and then there is taking the piss!

        There will obviously be others.

        We are all in this together….

        Universal Jobmatch

        December 31, 2014 at 5:32 pm

  15. I stated on the site a while ago that “it was just like being in the armed forces again, as if I never left.

    The rules for those in the armed forces are being applied to civilians, you are told to do something, you do it because you have to or else. you have no choice but to do it, to me and all those who have spent some time in the armed forces will see that it is becoming the very same in civilian life.

    It is now known that someone in DWP or other said, “we were just following orders” just like the criminal Nazi’s said. as if jobcentre advisers are officers, Duncan smith is the colonel while everyone on benefits are troopers, of course with no chance of promotion.


    December 31, 2014 at 4:26 pm

  16. Andy will you please put this up as a separate story or start a new comment thingy as you do with your most excellent and discussable (government monitored) again thingy’s

    I really think this needs full attention from the I.U.A. for the unemployed people on JSA and others who may need to make a claim for JSA, as Universal Credit may not have been introduced in there area yet.

    Andy it’s a distinction between the area’s who have already been switched to UC and those who are still on JSA.

    I think it is very important and crucial. Just put it up as the most important request of Obi Wan Kenobi.

    DWP says “no legal requirement for Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants to undertake 35 hours of Work Search…each week”.

    “As there is no legal requirement for Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants to
    undertake 35 hours of Work Search Activity each week, no legislation or
    national guidance stating otherwise exists.”


    Above quote is despite Jobcentre ‘Advisers’/Work Coaches seeking to impose a 35 hour a week Jobsearch requirement for JSA, when such a requirement only exists for Universal Credit and disclosing information that the 35 hour requirement existed for ‘New Style JSA’.

    The JSA Supervised Jobsearch Pilot is a randomised trial involving a 35 hour a week jobsearch provision at DWP provider premises.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 31, 2014 at 5:24 pm

  17. Has everyone been paid and on time?

    Reading a lot of posts from MSE where people have been excused from signing on during the Christmas period but have been paid late or not at all.

    Not sure if they just assumed to be paid on those days or whether they were told payment would be made on such date (non-bank holiday) but IDS thought it would be good to make people wait a week…

    Universal Jobmatch

    December 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm

  18. mine was 2 days late and signed on at jcp said it would be in the night i signed but was not there.

    and i told them that it whould not be in on the date stated pmsl

    super ted

    December 31, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    • Every little interest counts! LOL

      Not that it will make a splash in the ocean with the deficit…

      Universal Jobmatch

      December 31, 2014 at 6:20 pm

  19. Don’t matter to me as I saved 50% of last one , but yeah actually got paid on time – no probs.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 31, 2014 at 6:34 pm

  20. i saved my tax rebate of 330 quid go work that 1 out 😉

    super ted

    December 31, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    • I still want IDS melted down to a flesh soup and I want every Conservative and Lib Dem to be made to drink there portion live on media news cameras – one at a time – all on T.V.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      December 31, 2014 at 6:49 pm

  21. Reblogged this on Lindas Blog and commented:
    This is a very active blog with lots of links.
    Keep up the good work and Best Wishes for the New Year


    December 31, 2014 at 7:14 pm

  22. Mr IDS – Secretary for Work and Pensions.

    Iain Duncan Smith: ‘We’ll root out the benefits cheats who pretend to be ill for money’

    The Work and Pensions Secretary promised to get tough with benefit cheats, vowing they will not get away with swindling taxpayers out of any more money.

    My Response:

    Bring it – on Mr Fuck Face IDS.


    2 : UNLESS YOUR PREPERRED TO IDENTIFY ANY INDIVIDUAL (Which your legal advisers already know is against the law) Your FUCKED MR IDS.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 31, 2014 at 7:52 pm

  23. See you on here later Super Ted, I’m off out, have a good night, and good luck for next year, not forgetting all those who also post the info we all need, only then we know when the advisers and IDS etc are lying, this site has been and will be good for all of us, meaning every human being in the uk.

    Don’t do anything I would do, you would only get caught!

    enjoy your self’s.


    December 31, 2014 at 8:33 pm

  24. It’s probably that dodgy burger his dad made him eat during the beef scare…

    David Horton

    January 1, 2015 at 9:41 am

  25. Austerity cuts will bite even harder in 2015 – another £12bn will go

    During five years of austerity, Britain has not experienced the wave of protest seen in other countries. That could change – this is a pivotal year in the race to reshape the nature of the state



    January 1, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    • This £12bn of further savings are very worrying considering we have started to feel the knock on effects especially in the last 6 months. It is a big mess. It could be 50 years for the country to get on more stable footing. Political parties are just winging it to get through their parliamentary terms and reap the financial awards in the process.

      Universal Jobmatch

      January 1, 2015 at 5:51 pm

  26. There are already 1 million public sector jobs gone in austerity job cuts, which have meant a huge upsurge of women early retired on works pensions on average not even 4 per cent lowest income with no other pensions income.

    Ageism in job recruitment starts from 50-55 and especially to the disabled / chronic sick.

    Half of over 60s are within the working poor, and majority reason over 60s not in work due to being disabled / chronic sick. These people are equally liable to Bedroom Tax,
    benefit sanctions, loss of dsability / sick benefits and being within the 20 per cent lowest income.

    When not on benefits and denied the state pension since 2013, cannot access Winter Fuel Allowance. When the ring fenced and full National Insurance Fund is wrongly being called in surplus when the money is the non-paid out state pension since 2013.

    Right now the flat rate pension will leave women born from 1953 and men born from 1951 with NIL STATE PENSION FOR LIFE and bulk of rest with LESS NOT MORE state pension


    All ages need to sign the petition, so it is debated in parliament before the election and helps fight against the Tories the predicted equal number of MP seats as Labour, and to also help Labour do a u-turn that would give it a majority government in 2015 instead of a coalition of up to 4 parties that means very hard for Labour to get its policies into law.


    January 1, 2015 at 1:14 pm

  27. A dad was sent a letter asking him to go on a health check-up for disability benefits – two months after he died.

    The grieving widow of Stuart Mullins, 53, hit out today after her late husband was asked to undergo the medical tests for Disability Living Allowance.



    January 1, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    • Absolutely disgusting. These “mistakes” happen far too often.

      Universal Jobmatch

      January 1, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    • That disgraceful case is similar to the one mentioned on here recently about the ill man who won his benefit appeal 4 months after he died!!

      It sounds so ludicrous, it is almost some kind of joke, but it’s not when you recognise it’s from the real world. Of course, such an occurrence is quite normal within the detached world of the DWP and ATOS etc.


      January 1, 2015 at 7:14 pm

  28. All:

    Turncoat and Benefit-Judas, White Dee is on C5 tonight at 9.35 in a one hour programme called, White Dee: What’s All The Fuss About? Apparently she’ll be reflecting on how Benefit Street and celebrity has changed her life. Jesus, whatever next.

    jj joop

    January 1, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    • “Photo shoots” for that horror.


      January 1, 2015 at 5:04 pm


    This time, a disabled Paralympian is refused access to Edinburgh’s Hogmanay street party – despite having a ticket for the event via the disabled access point:


    Very interesting to note that a policeman said there was no wrongdoing in photographing the G4S personnel – after the G4S personnel resented being photographed!


    January 1, 2015 at 7:43 pm

    • I have seen G4S in the local jobcentre refuse to let people in to sign on, even going up to someone who is sitting waiting to be seen by an adviser telling them that they were 2 mins late and told to leave. G4S seem to think they have a lot of power, which is why a lot of them are employed as security guards.


      January 1, 2015 at 8:15 pm

      • “enigma”

        I have heard of G4S personnel refusing to let someone sign-on because of being 20 minutes early. The person was told to leave and come back at the correct signing time. When he did, he was then told he was 2 minutes late – and, yes, you’ve guessed, he was sanctioned for 4WEEKS!!!!


        January 1, 2015 at 8:26 pm

      • Yeah, that is Jobcentre Plus for you…

        “Arrive 10 minutes early”

        I have arrived 15 minutes early before and been refused entry.

        I have also arrived 10 minutes early to an appointment (NJI) when it later turns out the time I was given was 20 minutes early – so was 30 minutes early. I was allowed in. The place was packed.

        The former was before you were sanctioned for being late… so a well established system used at Jobcentre Plus nationwide.

        As for being late (for whatever reason) I have been warned once (given a letter), I have been 2 minutes late (due to a big queue but they let it go without raising it) to sign on without action (since the sanctions came in) and been late on several occasions, which were sanction dodged. I simply signed off, left a day gap and did a rapid reclaim.

        I needed that days money ironically, however, “couldn’t afford” to lose 2 weeks money etc.

        My experience of Jobcentre Plus is you need to be alert (adequate hydration), content, prepared and confident. Should you have an “off day”… slightly tired, out of breath (i.e. ran to avoid being late for your appointment), dehydrated, distracted, unprepared or depressed… its likely an adviser will pounce on you to meet their quota. That means a sanction.

        Its an absolutely awful environment… you are entitled to claim and you are seeking work, why do you have to prepare to not be screwed over?! You are effectively second-guessing your chances of being sanctioned or treated like shit. Some advisers you will get to be aware of their “personality” and temperament etc. But why do you have to defend your corner?

        For me it feels as although you are winging it through a job interview with lies on your CV, a couple of false referees you don’t know will hold up (and whether they have contacted them prior to interview) and as although you are being totally dishonest to gain an advantage. Except the law says you are entitled to receiving it.

        Universal Jobmatch

        January 1, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      • Tobanem

        Do you know if G4S staff are told what to do by JC advisers/manager or is it just the people who work for G4S with their so called power.


        January 1, 2015 at 9:02 pm

      • It does seem that G4S are being told by JC what to do/what to say to claimants, but are they?


        January 1, 2015 at 9:11 pm

      • Tobanem’s reply will be welcome.

        My 2p…

        I think one of the security guards are in-effect in control of others (think team leader more than manager), however, the Jobcentre Manager has full say I believe (or District Manager if present).

        G4s security guards are contractors and typically work upon their own initiative of how to bully people. I am sure they have an agreed policy with jobcentre plus and more likely than not, probably briefs them in the mornings of any new requirements. Advisers can (and do) flag them over as and when required. I have had interviews where a security guard was standing half a meter from the desk, really intimidating!

        This was when Mr Ian Barker was in attendance… self-titled Jobcentre Manager, later discovered to be “New Deal Manager”…

        Universal Jobmatch

        January 1, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      • Certainly G4s are “in on it” at jobcentres’,any intimidation by them or jobcentre staff,phone the police immediately.
        particularly if someone has a disability and classed as vulnerable,and left distressed.

        there is a climate as such that anyone can do as they please in there,without redress.G4s have as much legal power as the claimant.


        January 2, 2015 at 6:27 am

      • ken, I was watching videos on youtube of security guards (armed with an SIA licence) patrolling an estate in a city centre (not sure where, didn’t specify) the other week. (Didn’t search for that but got suggested after watching bailiff videos – you know, when the bailiff doesn’t get his way) Not sure if subcontracted by the police, and/or whether it was g4s or another firm. Either way they have absolutely no lawful authority to do anything, especially in a public place.

        They really didn’t like being filmed by someones mobile phone camera, and when questioned about their lack of authority coupled with the “filming in a public place” defence… (and allegations of harassment) they trespassed on someones property to try to get them to stop filming, claiming its illegal for them to film the security guards as they were standing off the public highway. The guy simply said along the lines of he was filming on the public highway/property and it was perfectly legit.

        Security guards have no more powers than the average citizen. They are trained, vetted (to an mild extent) and licensed – a requirement to do their job – so are more likely to be able to perform a citizens arrest or to attempt to obtain someone pending police attendance without backlash of “false imprisonment”, “assault” or improper process… but security guards are regularly being charged for these offences.

        This is the reason why they call police almost immediately… its not strength on their part, but covering their back. I have been escorted out of the jobcentre by police before (*blush*) – for “trespass on private property” … you either get a decent constable who listens to both sides of the argument and upholds the law as of their oath or a PCSO or constable that upholds the Governments wishes…I remember being threatened to be dispersed from the entire town centre area for 48 hours!

        All jobcentres (or at least the majority) are in private ownership… the Government sold them off many years ago (“Trillium” I believe) although its NOT private property for the purposes of law as the building is being used for a PUBLIC function.

        Unfortunately I got the “Oh another one, bloody unemployed time wasters” attitude threatening arrest. A contract was entered into with consent with my appointment. The grumpy old jobcentre adviser got up and left (didn’t ask me to leave, therefore consent wasn’t revoked i.e. not trespass) so the security guards came over a few minutes later to alert me the adviser had gone… I stayed as I had to sign on to get my money, (I told them this fact that I am awaiting for either the adviser to return or someone else to sign me on) and therefore had a genuine right to attend the premises of a public body to do so. (Some would call this a silent protest) Obviously behind the scenes the security called the police, the 6 SIA licensed staff (likely less than that nowadays) made no attempt to remove me from the building, they were relatively well-mannered about it all… they knew the jobcentre was in the wrong but were under strict instructions to follow procedure.

        So basically, I had to make the annoying trip of signing on the following day instead and getting payment a day late. Why on earth they couldn’t just stick me back into the pool of people waiting to sign on and have another adviser sign me on, is beyond me. No sanctions or anything were applied. I am sure no disciplinary action was taken on the advisor who walked out… the queue of jobseeker claimants waiting to sign on wasn’t happy as it was one of those days when only 2 advisers were dealing with signing people on with the mandatory 7 minute wait between interviews…

        Universal Jobmatch

        January 2, 2015 at 9:14 am

  30. It’s about strategies adopted by political leaders, here and abroad, to keep the population confused, uncertain what to believe, or what to do – and therefore powerless.



    January 1, 2015 at 7:48 pm

  31. And here is another strategy – to cage the homeless:


    Oh, it can’t happen here? Remember the anti-homless spikes/studs planted in doorways in this country recently? It’ll be minefields next!!


    January 1, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    • It is known that every one who becomes homeless tries to live as comfortable as possible, like finding warm places to sleep, or sleeping on a bench rather than concrete, spikes and cages, so the homeless will freeze to death, but then that’s the whole idea isn’t it, just like us. .


      January 1, 2015 at 8:42 pm

      • In Ipswich, there is a small covered area towards the side of Sainsburys in the town where rough sleepers are now appearing in greater numbers (its been a hot spot for many years overall however).

        It provides some cover from the elements, its really awful to see. I am sure some agencies are working on these people but there appears to be little big effort done to tackle it.

        Universal Jobmatch

        January 1, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    • Yes, it’s like trying to sleep in an airport 🙂 … especially before you have passed passed through check-in… although some are more comfortable than others…. but as a general rule the seating has been deliberately designed to make it uncomfortable to sleep in airports lol 🙂 more info here – Sleeping in Airports

      Sleeping in Airports

      February 5, 2015 at 6:26 am

  32. Is this the first (recent) Christmas Day benefit-cut victim?:


    I wonder how many more of these we will hear about shortly?


    January 1, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    • Yeah, well… I think the case of him losing his benefits is the significant bit and whatever time of year wouldn’t be good. Being at Christmas the period of good will etc. and generosity, is like an extra kick in the teeth.

      It is not a coincidence how these fall on Christmas Day and New Years Day etc. Its part of the whole psychology regime of the DWP and its partners (Atos etc). Its probable for the decision to be reversed where it wont save the department any money, however, they rather people feel so down they kill themselves to prevent paying out – whether thats when benefits are reinstated or the costs of appeal etc.

      Universal Jobmatch

      January 1, 2015 at 8:54 pm

  33. Regarding the comments above about who instructs G4S?

    Well, the Government pays them, and he who pays the piper calls the tune! The Government also puts pressure on Jobcentre managers to reach their performance targets etc, so it is inevitable these managers will influence the conduct and strategy of G4S personnel, given that it is not possible for Jobcentre personnel to intimidate the public (as they do daily) without some kind of apparent support from security personnel.

    There have been cases where G4S personnel have deliberately positioned themselves a few feet away from an advisor for a grandstand view of proceedings when certain interviews take place, so they must be getting instructed beforehand to do that by Jobcentre personnel.

    Above all, and this is the most important detail, most people don’t say a word in their own defence when harassed at the Jobcentre. G4S and Jobcentre personnel know this weakness and take full advantage of it.

    If most “confrontational” incidents in Jobcentres were captured on video, G4S and Jobcentre personnel would not have a legal leg to stand on – in fact they would most likely be charged for provoking and putting the public in a state of fear and alarm!

    But who is going to believe a baseball-capped, semi-literate, inarticulate, workshy layabout without credible witnesses?

    A final point. G4S adopt a strategy of “we don’t see or hear anything” (in relation to the provocative tactics of Jobcentre personnel). This is similar to the police ethos of “not seeing” someone beaten up by fellow officers!


    January 2, 2015 at 10:04 am

      • Certainly it was not on the BBC news- or maybe I missed it.

        Andrew Coates

        January 2, 2015 at 10:27 am

      • Andrew

        My comment “I never saw it”, was a sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek remark, made immediately following my previous post about the traditional police ethos of “not seeing” someone beaten up by fellow officers!


        January 2, 2015 at 10:46 am

    • Ive had five of them around me before now I just laugh at them and I’m only 5’6″. Just ignore them carry on firmly but politely insist on your rights and record it.


      January 5, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    • I’ve had four of these g$s goons stood directly behind me when I have popped into my jc for a “chat”… provocative or what?


      February 5, 2015 at 6:09 am

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    Free fall | Gabriel Vents

    January 2, 2015 at 10:10 am

  35. I am shocked to see how many low-hour or zero-hour early morning cleaner jobs being advertised at NMW (£6.50ph). The majority requests a driving licence

    Who on earth is going to work from 6am to 7am or 8am Mon-Fri at various employer sites across the town whilst having to drive out of the way at their own expense?!

    This sort of cleaning job used to be well-paid typically between £8-10 per hour and resulted in 4-8 hour weekly contracts of 2 hours per day. 10 hour if you are lucky. Most people didn’t apply for them as its too little hours each day and awful working patterns.

    Universal Jobmatch

    January 7, 2015 at 12:43 am

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  37. There is a lot of unrest on the “Ipswich Evening Star” newspaper website where scores of Ipswich residents are replying to every item of bad news. There has even been a recent “Have Your Say” debate initiated by the local newspaper. Most articles are detailing the damage the Labour run Ipswich Council and the Conservative run Suffolk County Council are inflicting on Ipswich. Apparently the two administrations are having a minor tiff over various issues which is dragging Ipswich to its knees. Ben Gummer has done nothing really to justify being a MP for Ipswich but neither has is predecessors either. The Ipswich town centre desperately needs investment and a new highway from East to West just might relieve the town of its traffic problems. Millions are being wasted on stuff Ipswich does not want or need.

    john cobbold

    February 5, 2015 at 3:10 am

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