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Benefit Sanctions, 4,500 Hit in Manchester.

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The Manchester Evening News reported this week.

Hard-up jobless people in Greater Manchester have been hammered hardest by benefit sanctions in the UK, according to a new report.

Around 4,500 people – 8 per cent of the region’s Jobseekers’ Allowance claimants – have had their payments frozen or stopped completely as part of the government crackdown.

That compared with just 6 per cent of jobseekers in other areas since October 2012.

As part of the tough new regime, claimants face having their payments stopped if job centre staff class them as ‘unavailable for work’.

But critics say the broad brush approach has unfairly penalised many people with legitimate training or childcare commitments.

However, the analysis by think tank New Economy shows that most of those affected were sanctioned because they failed to turn up to appointments intended to help them find work.

The second highest reason for a sanction was because claimants were unable to show they were looking for job.

I looked at the last item and thought…..

In Ipswich the Jobcentre has a few computers, about 4, looking lonely,  when I last looked for jobsearch.

Ipswich Central Library computer system is in chaos.

Most of the computers are out of order (3 days now).

There is fierce competition to use the few terminals (using a new system)  that work – 8 of them downstairs.

This is for thousands of people who have to 35 hours jobsearch a week (and some now who have to do 40 Hours!)

So a lot of people in Ipswich are going to find it hard to show how they are looking for a job.

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  1. “So a lot of people in Ipswich are going to find it hard to show how they are looking for a job.”

    Andrew: I think that’s the general idea!

    jj joop

    September 26, 2014 at 12:01 pm

  2. Food banks are going to be overwhelmed, it will come to it that that many people appearing at food banks will find that there is no food.

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    • It is quite an incredible figure in Manchester, 4,500 people!

      That’s just those officially sanctioned – what about those who’ve simply not got on the register in the first place.

      They must have resurrected the Poor Law Guardians in Manchester.

      Andrew Coates

      September 26, 2014 at 4:42 pm

      • We were talking about the numbers in Manchester today at the food bank, some people were surprised that some of those in Manchester have actually had their benefits completely stopped, of course it won’t be just Manchester. there is going to be thousands upon thousands of new homeless people,

        Someone said in another post, ” if we all stick together and fight before things go to far”

        I think it has already gone too far, it went too far when the first person committed suicide because of the welfare reform

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 5:05 pm

  3. Yes jj joop, no matter what a person does to find a job, any adviser can say what they have done to find a job isn’t enough (because they are still receiving benefits)

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    • They have run appeals in my town luton coz foodbanks running low
      As to 35 hours jobsearch any more news on it? Doesn’t it start next week?

      Kat Rehman

      September 26, 2014 at 1:07 pm

  4. The same thing will happen here (at this food bank) and everywhere else of course.

    The 35 hour supervised jobsearch starts 7 or 8th October.

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 1:14 pm

  5. FROM HEARTBLEED TO SHELLSHOCK – HAVE A BASH

    Even if there are enough computers for everyone to do their merciless 35 hours per week jobsearch on, which there’s not, we now have the Shellshock Bash bug about to infect computers globally.

    I wonder what this menace will do to jobseaching? Will sanctions soar even more if people can’t use computers for jobsearch?

    Jobsearch prisons will be bad enough if their computers are up and running, but just imagine what it will be like inside a jobsearch prison with all the computers down!

    Bedlam!!

    http://on.aol.co.uk/video/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-shellshock-bash-bug-518433800

    Tobanem

    September 26, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    • …And Linux users thought they were safe!!!

      Tobanem

      September 26, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    • It would be a certainty that there will be a massive rise in the numbers of sanctions if computers were not available.

      enigma

      September 26, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    • Watch out for the latest U Kash police viruses as well, I have already downloaded and put into print on how to remove it from a computer.

      I would recommend that people do the same as the U Kash police virus puts a screen over your main screen on your computer at start-up so you can’t do anything, it won’t even let you start-up in ‘safe mode’.

      U Kash virus removal tutorials can be found on You Tube. Tip – look for a recent tutorial.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      September 27, 2014 at 11:17 am

  6. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.

    A6er

    September 26, 2014 at 2:03 pm

  7. As for being sanctioned for failing to turn up for an appointment, if my Jobcentre is anything to go by – then most people fail to turn up because they “forgot”. The number of times I’ve stood in a queue at the podium only to hear someone saying that they forgot. Question: Given the current climate, i.e. sanctions galore, how on earth do you forget to turn up for something as potentially life-changing as an appointment or signing? It simply beggars belief that you can forget something that is so vitally important to your current well-being.

    I bought a cheap calender with big squares. Appointments and signings are in red, and each day is marked off so I know what day it is. Simples. In four years I’ve never forgotton an appointment or signing.

    Schmidtt

    September 26, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    • Well, just after my stroke I couldn’t recognise the day, week or month of an appointment (usually one with my GP) – people with what are now known as neurological deficits (like those resulting from stroke) are easy prey for JC+ jobsworths. Of course those with such problems shouldn’t be on JSA, but that’s ATOS for you.

      wildswimmerpete

      September 28, 2014 at 1:19 pm

  8. To say that one forgot to turn up is pure stupidity, I would think that it is the young who are saying they forgot but then I guess there are people of all ages that would say they forgot thinking that saying they forgot will somehow be ignored and forgotten about, they obviously don’t care about the consequences because of that. obviously little do they know

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    • Not necessarily young people – Alzheimers probably no longer qualifies you as being unable to work.

      Anton

      September 26, 2014 at 4:06 pm

      • Yes, as I said, “all ages”

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 4:17 pm

      • I understand there will also be those.

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 4:31 pm

      • Are you the milkman?

        Alt Zimmer

        September 27, 2014 at 2:23 pm

  9. After Months and Months of using UJM,I finally found a paying Job through it..in a very round about way,a position was advertised for a local Pub,they wanted apprentices,but the Barman knew of a mate looking for staff,also filled,but a gent at the Bar directed me to his local that hired me(4 years unemployed) I start in 9 Days,was the JCP adviser happy for me? I signed on and explained that I would need some help for the 1st Month with travel and clothes “We don’t do that anymore,but you must take the position or you will be sanctioned” What am I supposed to live on for the 1st Month “We can give you 3 vouchers for 3 days food at the food bank” “Ask your employer for an advance before you start” “Can’t you borrow off friends or family” “We can refer you to CAB and they can put you in touch with a local charity”……bloody ridiculous! Even when you find employment,no help and still threatened with a Sanction!

    jray

    September 26, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    • @ jray… how the fuck can you have been earning £100,000 for years and still not have at least a month’s wages salted away? What the fuck did you spend it all on? Un-fucking-believable!

      EasyComeEasyGo

      September 27, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      • PS If you had been earning that kind of job and had been sensible with it you should be fucking RETIRED by now instead of relying on the fucking jobcentre or scrapping around for minimum wage jobs. How the fuck can anyone have the skills to earn that kind of dough but lack basic money management skills. You must have just frittered it to fuck on fast cars and slow (wo)men!

        EasyComeEasyGo

        September 27, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      • Ask your bank manager!

        doogood

        September 27, 2014 at 3:37 pm

      • EasyCome, perhaps you need a reality check or maybe could attempt to become a little more worldly?

        People can go from doing well or just doing ok to absolute disaster overnight for myriad reasons, all beyond the control of the individual. This can happen to anyone, even you.

        Lucy

        September 29, 2014 at 9:09 am

  10. jray

    I know what you mean as others will, but thinking about what is coming, I like others wouldn’t even bother asking the advisors about any help because we know there is no help to be given if one has been given a start date of employment, all advisors care about is you signing off, it wouldn’t matter if we had to wait 2 months for a wage.

    I stated in another message that “there will be no option but to do those soon to be here compulsory schemes, working full time for our benefits,

    There is though one other option of getting out of any compulsory scheme, which is finding a full time job. if I were you I would go to the C.A.B, get a few vouchers, forget about the job centre. just think about yourself not being part of this compulsory prison which will soon be here.

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    • @enigma,thanks,sound advice! No matter what,I will make this work,funny a few years ago making £100k a year and not worried about nobody but my little world,reality check,I will never judge another person by their circumstances,humility and being humble,may not of made me religious but at least a better human being.

      jray

      September 26, 2014 at 10:43 pm

      • I too have went a month without cash because of a months wait for my wage, millions of people have done it, it’s only a month, you’ll make it. (try and make some, you understand)
        it’s worth it to be free of the jobcentre and all their nonsense

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 11:41 pm

  11. Calendar or diary a necessity but forgetting may just be down to the devious practice of changing the appointments every few days I had my last workfare appointment moved 4 times before the incompetent idiot finally settled on a time and day! If I hadn’t kept a record I would never have remembered when to turn up.

    Carol Joyce

    September 26, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    • Yes Carol, I too have observed this practice.

      gaia

      September 27, 2014 at 9:20 am

  12. Carol

    They are sneaky aren’t they, but they aren’t sneaky enough!

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 5:19 pm

  13. And How long is this meant to go on for?
    I see big problems with it?

    Mick

    September 26, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    • It does seem that it will never end.

      One big problem with it (for those of us, and the future unemployed) will be that every employer will take full advantage of the unemployed.

      enigma

      September 26, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    • For all the unemployed as of today and the future, it will mean living on the least amount of money, just enough to survive.

      enigma

      September 26, 2014 at 6:45 pm

      • you mean like living on jsa?

        G.Wilderbeast

        September 30, 2014 at 5:58 pm

      • Yes, working full time for jsa or of less amount.

        enigma

        September 30, 2014 at 6:17 pm

  14. at my jcp if you are more that 10 mins late they wont let you sign on that day and will then need to make another appointment by phone.

    then they ripped out all the phones

    super ted

    September 26, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    • Yes, they will do everything they can to stop people getting their benefits.

      enigma

      September 26, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    • “need to make another appointment by phone”

      Difficult if you’ve got aphasia and can’t use the ‘phone. I understand textphones are available to the deaf, but not to stroke survivors.

      wildswimmerpete

      September 28, 2014 at 1:49 pm

  15. Sup ted

    Have you asked your advisor what the orange zone card is for, if so what did they say.

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 6:55 pm

  16. all they said was that the office will be getting changed round and i no longer have to report to the podium any more and can go straight up to the first floor.

    mine is now called a work coach, not advisers anymore on my card i got.

    super ted

    September 26, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    • the office will be changed round, (for the supervised job search)
      you no longer have to go to the podium (why)
      you can go straight up to the first floor (supervised job search)
      a work coach (supervised job search supervisor)
      yes?
      no?

      enigma

      September 26, 2014 at 9:18 pm

      • there will be no job search here the place is to small and there is not enough staff anyway and only got 4 computers there tho i have never seen them used, wont let ppl use the wash room ect.

        not sure about the podium might even being ripped out with the phones imo got 4 cheap plastic chairs there now n that’s it.

        when i sign on now i just hand over my job search n sign and go nothing else is said.

        super ted

        September 26, 2014 at 9:37 pm

  17. I stated in another message that “there will be no option but to do those soon to be here compulsory schemes, working full time for our benefits.

    but you forget what if the employer does not want you there and sends you back to the jcp.

    no matter where you get sent they will want you to sign contracts data wavers ect so they get paid.

    if you refuse to sign them and thats ur right under law it screws them right up and out the door you go.

    super ted

    September 26, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    • Super ted

      well first why would an employer not want a person working for them on the cheap, but remember “compulsory jobs” if we don’t work we don’t get any benefits.

      As the current law on mandatory, (data wavers etc) I would think that because of the change to compulsory, a change in the law would be made,

      enigma

      September 26, 2014 at 8:19 pm

  18. The thing is super ted, because all those current schemes, and UJM etc are not compulsory we have been able to prevent being on them or signing on to them, they have realized that a lot of people are not going to these schemes etc, because of it. this is why the change from mandatory to compulsory will be made, so that everyone will end up on so called schemes. there won’t be any data waivers.

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    • And yet when I consult thesaurus.com:
      Mandatory: required by law or mandate; compulsory.

      How can they change the rules over one word when it means exactly the same as the previous bloody word they’re swapping it out with?

      AeonThePhoenix

      September 26, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      • What they are saying is- all those mandatory things were actually voluntary, but we knew that.

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 10:00 pm

      • They do change the rules for words when they need to,

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 10:12 pm

      • The word Compulsory won’t need to be amended of course, we all know what that means,

        There’s going to be trouble in little Britain!

        enigma

        September 26, 2014 at 11:34 pm

  19. The law will be amended/updated for the upcoming of compulsory jobs.

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 9:52 pm

  20. super ted

    September 26, 2014 at 10:16 pm

  21. Not needed lol

    enigma

    September 26, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    • im not wrong tho am i lol fkn last resort ibs cannon

      super ted

      September 26, 2014 at 10:31 pm

      • super ted: i’ve no intention of signing any contracts or data waivers. but what if a provider asks you to verbally confirm your personal details and employment history and what sort of jobs you are looking for, apart from confirming your name, can you just tell them to get stuffed so to speak?

        bill sykes

        September 27, 2014 at 10:55 am

      • Basically DWP hide behind part 4 of the DPA and by branding these providers as such that they are in a way treated a second parties (same as dwp), hence why you cant stop DWP passing your data onto them.

        This however only gives the provider the right to process what DWP have given them but must again seek your consent for any NEW personal and or sensitive data you submit.

        Even the please confirm your name part sykes mentions isn’t warranted as if they doubt who you are then its up to them with no repercussions to yourself to find out as they are the ones with the problem and for the record asking such is again processing personal data and requires consent as it does not form a part of what DWP sent.

        If you fancy a further laugh at the providers I would also say to them if you get it wrong I will sue you for defamation of character as I do have a good network of support so raising funds for such wont be an issue (not that you need to do any of this as its a verbal but perfectly legal taunt as whats to say you wont or cant).

        arsenalgas@yahoo.co.uk

        September 27, 2014 at 1:09 pm

      • for arsenglass and Helping Hand:

        thanks for that guys. at least i’ll know what to say to them should i get flicked on to the 35h job search. i would never tell them to get stuffed, literally. i was talking figuratively. i don’t suppose i’ll be able to get out of it, but at least i’ll be able to put a spanner in their works.

        if they want me to do them a cv, i’ll tell them i will put together a mock cv that doesn’t contain anything connected to me. just to show them that i can write a cv. same for covering and spec letters.

        bill sykes

        September 27, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      • employment history

        i have not got any or anything to put on a cv because of years sat at providers doing nothing bar earn them money.

        all the providers get is what the jcp send them and thats why they just have my name and address and thats it.

        under uk law that is all they need for my jsa claim and thats all they will ever get.

        they can send you to a provider but if you then refuse to sign anything but will turn up and sit there all day they soon will tell you to go as you start costing them money.

        super ted

        September 27, 2014 at 4:49 pm

  22. NEVER BE LATE AGAIN

    WOULD YOU RATHER LOSE £1.31 (1.50 after October) OR £289.60 (4 WK SANCTION), POSSIBLY MORE FOR BEING AN HOUR LATE ?

    Through DWP rules a claimant must declare any paid work no matter how they come across it. By using this rule a claimant could easily invent a job that pays £6.31 (nat min) per hour without the need for an employer to be attached meaning their declare their , their own boss and that the person that paid them was a member of the public (random customer).

    Example

    A neighbour offered to pay you to mow their lawn.

    Basically and theirs nothing stopping you declaring less (piece work) by declaring the national min per hour a claimant can simply explain away a lateness and thus thwart any attempt by DWP to sanction them.

    Currently when you declare paid work the first £5.00 you get to keep but any after that is deducted from your JSA pound for pound.

    EXAMPLE

    If a claimant declares they mowed that lawn for an hour and received £6.31 then declared it DWP would first deduct £5.00 from this

    £6.31 – £5.00 = £1.31

    They would then subtract this £1.31 from your benefit for that week

    £72.40 – £1.31 = £71.09 (what you will receive that benefit week despite being a hour late to sign on).

    Now technically It wouldn’t have to be an hour it would actually be more as you would need to go home, cleanup, change clothes and walk to the jobcentre so could easily stretch this to 2 hours.

    (Please remember the £5.00 deduction is only done once a benefit week meaning if you did this the next day aswell all the £6.31 for day 2 would be deducted).

    (Also remember these are random one offs that you couldn’t possibly have known were coming if any suggestion is made to IS THIS REGULAR WORK).

    (Finally DO NOT put down the customers details as ITS ILLEGAL TO PROCESS A PERSONS PERSONAL DATA AS IS PRESCRIBED UNDER THE DATA PROTECTION ACT PRIOR TO,

    A: Registering with ICO and receiving a registration number

    B: Presenting customer with a data protection privacy policy (basically a document that outlines how you intend to use their data).

    C: Have lawful signed consent from the customer.

    DWP cannot force you to break the law nor ignore the legal rights of the customer and NO, this is not required for tax purposes as its a one off and you are not registered as a business with inland revenue as the work is not regular in any shape or form to require such. I say this incase DWP attempt to state part 4 of the data protection act which is exceptions to the act and thus not requiring consent prior to. This person who you mowed the lawn for is your customer, not theirs so it is purely up to you to decide whether or not an exception applies and so DWP cant do squat diddly about it

    SO THE NEXT TIME YOU FORGET, DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND DONT FORGET THIS, I GUARANTEE IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY ?

    gaia

    September 27, 2014 at 10:50 am

  23. For “bill sykes”

    No, you don’t verbally tell “compulsory work providers” to get stuffed!

    What you do is tell them “you do not CONSENT to supply them with any information” – and you do that every time they ask you a question.

    But be careful not to REFUSE anything point blank, especially at the Jobcentre, or that action is likely to result in a sanction!

    Helping Hand

    September 27, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    • Too right, nobody is REFUSING anything – we just don’t CONSENT to share our personal information – nothing more, nothing less 😀

      RNik

      September 29, 2014 at 8:51 am

    • Anything that resembles a ”no” can result in a sanction

      Middlesex

      October 7, 2014 at 2:40 pm

  24. To be honest I was waiting for the DWP (Messr’s Smith, McVey and Freud) to try and slip a new torment out for the unemployed (under the radar) while parliament was recalled yesterday for the ‘going to war…again! debate and vote’

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 27, 2014 at 12:02 pm

  25. New research on the origin of benefits austerity:

    http://welfarenewsservice.com/tony-blair-destroyed-britains-faith-benefits-system-claim-researchers/

    Today, Labour is more concerned in winning votes by pandering to the misguided fears and resentment of voters over “benefit scroungers”, than caring for and solving the plight of the unemployed.

    Tory mandatory work, or Labour’s compulsory jobs? Take your pick, the sanctions are still there!

    Tobanem

    September 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    • After New Labour under Tony Blair gained power in 1997, the harsh conditions suffered by the unemployed under Thatcher and Major did not exactly improve.

      Do you remember the “Iron Chancellor” (Gordon Brown) and his new get tough “one-strike-and-out” measure?

      Now we have Labour claiming to be tougher on the unemployed than the the Tories, as Rachel Reeves asserted at last year’s Labour Party Conference.

      Not good news for the unemployed today!

      Tobanem

      September 27, 2014 at 1:13 pm

      • Tobanem:

        I seriously think Rachel Reeves (Labours policies) on the unemployed have and must adapt, after all the arguments she’s had with IDS on record from the House of Common’s regarding:

        1. The Work Programme

        2. Sanctions for JSA and ESA claimants.

        3. ATO’S and the WCA.

        4.JCP advisersand Private Provider advisers exceeding their legal authority (in other words ‘LIE AND ILEAGAL BULLSHIT)

        I think (if Labour win the General Election) she will most definitely be held to her ideals by everyone on benefits.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        September 27, 2014 at 1:45 pm

      • Which is one of the reasons people write Blogs like this one!

        Which believe me gets a lot of hits per day (932 yesterday)

        ER, hits is perhaps not the best word….

        Andrew Coates

        September 27, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    • Another nice post, very poignant I thought but the thing is the public don’t want to hear the truth as it shatters their illusions. Even when as I only claim JSA, no other benefits, they do listen they simply remain speechless as they have no valid argument against me then turn and cite others who are no where to be seen to defend themselves.

      Im afraid touting all jobseekers as though they all had 13 kids, lived in mansion and got 26’000 plus per annum doesn’t wash with me and you should see the publics face when I show them after the famous speech “My taxes pays for them” exactly how much they do really contribute which is £0.000002339 of a pence per week per claimant (72.40 weekly JSA and 31.2 million working) or if I fancy really sticking the knife in demonstrate with those figures that after 55 years of full employment they still only contribute £0.00668954 of a pence per claimant over the period. Even if you half the working figure to 15 million they all still pay the same 0.000004826 of a pence per claimant, per week so after 55 years of doing so only contribute to the individual 0.01380236 of a pence.

      So the public are im afraid either to lazy their actual selves to do the math or are complicit in a tory lie that serves only their self interests.

      gaia

      September 27, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      • Oh I almost forgot.

        After demonstrating that give them a penny and say “here, that will cover the next 55 years and oh, keep the change”.

        Your guaranteed to get a rise.

        gaia

        September 27, 2014 at 2:10 pm

      • Which public are we talking about here? The working public? The business class? The Torylibdem class? Remember that most of the people claiming benefits are people in low paid employment that don’t get paid enough to live on so therefore have to claim benefits for themselves/ and their families. So are the “public” “mad” at those people also? The Daily Mail/Sun/Express/Telegraph/ reading public? The BBC watching public?

        G.Wilderbeast

        September 30, 2014 at 6:11 pm

  26. HERE COMES THE CRUNCH

    And if any are still thinking of a “New Deal” from labour after May next year, well, just remember the last New Deal – although reducing unemployment for a while – was built on credit, yes CREDIT, the type of thing that eventually leads to a crunch!

    Will history repeat itself? Is it beginning to repeat itself already with Labour’s “tougher than the Tories” talk?

    Expect more economic smoke and mirrors at the minimum, because the real jobs simply don’t exist in sufficient quantity in the first place!

    Tobanem

    September 27, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    • The truth about the job situation is dependant on the individuals location, their own work experience and their respective labour market, not to mention if you do get an audience your age, fitness and whether or not the company in question is looking for a government handout.

      Or better put HOW LONGS A PIECE OF STRING as while I can pump out a 100 applications a week someone far less abled in the same office may only achieve 10 for various reasons.

      gaia

      September 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm

      • gaia

        A piece of string is about as long as it takes for a fly to swim across a barrel of treacle!

        Tobanem

        September 27, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      • Remember that even if you got a job you could still be claiming benefits because the minimum wage falls short of what you/you and your family needs to live on. Most benefits are claimed by people in jobs that don’t provide sufficient to live on and therefore need to have their slave wages topped up with benefits.

        G.Wilderbeast

        September 30, 2014 at 6:14 pm

  27. As I am now signing on again ive had the good if you can call it that fortune of having the new CC put on me. Naturally they wanted me to sign it without checking it which I instantly said im afraid I can until I have studied further but will after the weekend reach a conclusion.

    Well the generic doesn’t even come close as its littered with question marks.

    Under types of work on the first page it states, I will be available for all types of work. Well that would mean im available to apply for a GPs position or a cleaner even though I have neither qualification or experience.

    Another one was, im available to start work immediately yet you may have circumstances that mean you need at least 24 hours to.

    Then theirs I am available to work for any hours on any day for at least 40 hours a week so where does that put a 15 hour p/time job then, are they saying I don’t have to except a 37.5 hour job because its less than 40 hours?

    I could go on but this document was clearly the work of a child or should I say an adult with a childs mind, far to generic and quite frankly needs a major overhaul.

    Seriously anyone not contesting this is out of their mind as it makes sanctioning far easier than it ever was before. As for the workplan I told them off the bat I will surrender my own evidence thank you very much. The workplan creates more unnecessary writing not to mention slipped into it is created a profile and public CV in universal jobmatch along with I understand my coach may require me to take other specific actions to improve my chances of finding work. They also want to contact employers your applying to which unless they want me to cite this potential employer to ICO for a data breach ( I data protect all my correspondence), I afraid its never going to happen.

    Basically it appears they want to own and parade us as they see fit.

    Keep dreaming IDS,McVey and civil servants as instead of finding ways to trip people up, why don’t you actually find ways to help instead of all these yester year tired practices that quite frankly are no good to man or beast.

    Have a good weekend people, well until DWP decide to make us all sign on daily including the weekends.

    gaia

    September 27, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    • Do you honestly think that the DWP will give up their weekends or the WPP theirs in order that we may sign on. I think there will be trouble. It won’t be from us though it will be THEIR FAMILIES. { United Nations International Charter Of Fundamental Rights To A Family Life }

      Black Cloud

      September 28, 2014 at 9:30 am

      • Well if you mean by DWP people operating the job centres I think the answer is probably yes namely by giving the job to the private sector to do . There will be a flash Harry or Sarah (eg a43/Ingeus/etc/etc) willing to take millions in taxpayer payments from the goverment to run a business such as operating week end signing on stations for job seekers. In fact I think it’s only a matter of time til the job centres are sold off to the private sector to run.

        G.Wilderbeast

        September 30, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    • gaia – Re: CC

      In the jobs you are prepared to apply for part of your CC, did you stick to what you were previously applying for on your JSAg, or did your adviser add more job titles to the CC for you to apply for?

      I ask because I have an interview with my adviser the week after next and she said we would be filling in the CC.

      Your input would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks!

      Parker Pyne

      September 28, 2014 at 8:23 pm

      • mine stayed the same as on jsag, all that was added to mine was i had to do 7 things a week to look apply for jobs.

        super ted

        September 28, 2014 at 8:42 pm

      • Sorry Parker Pyne ive been busy actually getting the low down on CC and the 35 hours of evidence.

        Well to answer your question yes they did but that’s no surprize as before they could only enter 3 where as now its loads so expect more. In truth its neither here nor their as it wont help you or them, especially if they don’t understand your ex-trade/s to begin with.

        gaia

        September 29, 2014 at 8:09 pm

      • gaia: Thanks for that. My interview was brought forward to today. In my CC, it also says “I will be available for all types of work, and I will seek and apply for all types of work that give me the best prospects of securing employment”.

        Parker Pyne

        September 30, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    • super ted:

      You’re lucky. My JSAg says I have to do at least 10 things a week.

      Parker Pyne

      September 29, 2014 at 8:21 am

      • they would put 100 things a week if you let them, just to make it easy for them to sanction you do 99 a week and watch them try it.

        if you think its unreasonable then do not sign it till it is.

        seems now there is a orange zone a green one and a pink zone on 3rd floor.

        nothing has been changed just put some round stickers on the pillars with the zones on them.in front of there desks.

        super ted

        September 29, 2014 at 9:51 am

    • Gaia, I have read your last posts with interest. Do you have any other information/advice to share concerning the CC, especially the “35 hours of evidence” ?. I have an appointment next Wednesday with my “adviser” to fill in my CC. He is a grade 1 bastard who tries to sanction me, but fortunately I know the rules & regulations unlike the rest of the poor saps I meet in the Jobcentre.

      ben

      October 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm

  28. i had to do my cc months ago they tried putting 14 things a week on it till i said forget it ill not sign it so got it down to 7 a week phone employers ect.

    best bit was we want a cv umm well you are not going to get one because i have nothing to put on one and i cant lie on it as its classed as fraud.

    or do i put on it i was sat in an office for 10 years doing jack shit paid for by tax payers for the profit of a 3rd party company.

    they then shunted me round the office so all the other advisers to have a go at it and all failed even my hit squad adviser.

    had him sent back down stairs and just signs now as he demanded i gave him my doctors numbers so he could check i had an appointment n had his ass whipped by the floor managers.

    not that my doc would have told them anything anyway lol

    super ted

    September 27, 2014 at 6:11 pm

  29. HOW TO PATCH BASH FOR SHELL SHOCK IN CENTOS, UBUNTU, ETC.

    I used this link and followed the instructions to patch my OS, Ubuntu 14.04. This vulnerability has been around for over twenty years, so lets not get too carried away. Windows are always coming across old vulnerabilities in their systems. In 2010 they stumbled across a seventeen year old flaw in the Kernel. I don’t recall the world coming to an end. Planes weren’t dropping out of the sky or anything. Just patch it up and move on.

    http://www.linuxnews.pro/patch-bash-shell-shock-centos-ubuntu/

    jj joop

    September 28, 2014 at 11:25 am

    • I’ll stick to windows, if I see bash on my pc I’ll bash my pc!

      Planes falling out of the sky, don’t pilots have to learn to fly manually (um just in case) before auto? if not we’ve had it!

      enigma

      September 28, 2014 at 2:49 pm


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