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We make no apologies for having shamelessly ripped this off from Britain’s leading investigative journal, the Daily Mash,

“UNEMPLOYED? The Department for Work and Pensions’ psychometric test uses advanced science to work out why you’ve utterly failed as a human.

Try it, for fun and also because if you don’t all your money will be stopped forever and you will die.

The DWP Psychometric Test for Jobseekers

Which of these statements best describes you?

A. Diligent, honest, reliable.
B. A feckless cider-swilling parasite suckling at the rancid teat of the bloated welfare state.

Which of these sets of random words do you find most appealing?

A. Love. Friendship. Family. Happiness.
B. Commission. Only. Telephone. Sales.

What do you find more sexually arousing?

A. Imagining having sex with attractive Hollywood actors like Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie.
B. Stacking cardboard boxes.

At a party, are you:

A. Outgoing and always the centre of attention.
B. I do not go to parties because I do not deserve to have fun.

Which challenges do you look for in a job?

A. Solving problems in a creative way as part of a team.
B. Quickly cutting off your trapped hair before the machine pulls your head in.

You are walking in the desert when you see a tortoise stuck on its back. What do you do?

A. Help the tortoise by flipping it over.
B. Help the tortoise by signing it up for a great job-hunting course run by a training company that really cares.

Do you find it easy to connect with others on an emotional level?

A. Yes. I am good at sensing what other people are feeling.
B. Emotions are for the weak.

Which of these statements best describes Iain Duncan Smith?

A. A vindictive mediocrity who can only get hard by taking things away from people.
B. A wise, charismatic leader whose baldness in no way reduces his sexual charisma.

How did you do?

Mostly As – Your are a happy, creative person with a positive can-do attitude to work – especially work in windowless warehouses where the air smells of hot chemicals and you get shouted at a lot.

Mostly Bs – As above.

Equal amounts of As and Bs – As above. ”


IUA says: this may give the DWP some useful tips!


Written by Andrew Coates

September 18, 2014 at 11:25 am

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  1. What rubbish this is and I will like to know who made this up.

    Carl Lawrence

    September 18, 2014 at 11:35 am

    • Satire?

      Landless Peasant

      September 18, 2014 at 1:09 pm

  2. Welcome to Narnia Wonderland!

    jj joop

    September 18, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    • Yes, enter the Jobcentre and you’ll find a world like fucking Narnia there!

      Andrew Coates

      September 18, 2014 at 2:38 pm

      • Yes There’s The ”Witch” On The Podium


        September 20, 2014 at 7:57 am

  3. I don’t know if anyone has seen this. It seems to confirm that those mandated to the supervised 35 hours a week job seach will be attending sessions at the the pimp’s premises and not the Jobcentre. That being the case, does anyone know exactly what is going on in Bradford? I thought it was being done at the Jobcentre.



    September 18, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    • The nearest provider to me is 25 miles away.

      jj joop

      September 19, 2014 at 8:22 am

      • That must be a real pain.

        It happens a lot in Suffolk – and the bus services for the outlying villages are often non-existent.

        Andrew Coates

        September 19, 2014 at 10:11 am

      • I’m lucky. Where I live we have the train and the bus. By bus, it can take up to two hours to get to the provider. Using the train and the bus takes about an hour. I used the latter and it costed about £13.00.

        jj joop

        September 19, 2014 at 10:58 am

    • I don’t think anyone seriously believed this would be held at Jobcentres. Even for the Tories this would be fucktastically stupid. There’s no way any JC I’ve ever been in (all 2 of them) could ever accommodate people like this.

      Does’t really help the situation though, this scheme still exists. I’m curious to know if the local Sally Army Work Programme scumpimps will be running this because that will mean sitting in a small church hall all day, surrounded by crosses and bibles while a fat ignorant unpleasant twunt lectures me about ‘my journey’. There’s no facility for mass jobsearching all day either and barely room to baptise a cat!

      ghost whistler

      September 19, 2014 at 11:37 am

  4. i said months ago this will be done at the providers and not the jcp office its like a4e 15 years ago lol 1-2 staff and a room full of 30-40 ppl at a time.

    prob just sit there all day browsing the net provider wont care what u do as long as they get there money.

    back then id sign in 9.30 wait 20 mins then sign out and put 4pm in the book then slip out the back door.

    super ted

    September 18, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    • This supervised jobsearch sounds like New Deal.

      Just hope you are lucky not to have to be trapped in Dencora House Detention Centre. If I am not mistaken I think the cursed ex-dole prison of Units 6-10 Dencora House Whitehouse Road IP1 5LT is still unoccupied since YMCA Training left. I hear stories that its haunted and has an evil energy inside, even the soulless spineless commercial estate agents went away deflated, depressed and ill after visiting. No one dared to visit it for an office.

      Universal Jobmatch

      September 18, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    • Will you be sanctioned if you decline/refuse to sign any of their paprwork? Can they make you use their IADs to do a job search? I’m confused.

      sidekick simon

      September 18, 2014 at 7:20 pm

  5. just turn up refuse to enter in to a contract with a 3rd party and do same with the data waver.

    say you are more than happy to use there computers for job searching but will not apply for them on there computers, as there watched by head office, and get print outs of the jobs and apply for them at home, nothing they can do about it.

    or whip out ur smart phone and use that if you got wifi or take a lap top and do ur job search on that, or play candy crush all day 😉

    super ted

    September 18, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    • super ted: Top posting!

      jj joop

      September 19, 2014 at 8:19 am

    • Surely it’s illegal to force people to do what would constitute applyign for jobs – sending personal details, messages etc to third parties, strangers, and agencies.

      ghost whistler

      September 19, 2014 at 11:40 am

  6. if they do sanction you it will be for non attendance so keep proof you went and you will win it done same on my mwa even tho i went and was sent home.

    super ted

    September 18, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    • Thanks ted, I’ll do that. Should be interesting. Haven’t had my call up papers yet.

      sidekick simon

      September 19, 2014 at 8:05 am

  7. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.


    September 18, 2014 at 9:07 pm

  8. This test was pointed out by its creators back in the good old USA to be a


    They told the UK government this but they as usual refused to listen and infavct tried to skirt the issue be devising a shorter version,

    As the test is most certainly NOT INDISCRIMINATE it makes it personal meaning you guessed it, subject to DPA which inturn requires you LAWFUL CONSENT.


    September 19, 2014 at 5:42 am

  9. PEOPLE considered too fat to work could be put on a diet under plans being investigated by Iain Duncan Smith to slash the benefits bill.

    Now the Work and Pensions Secretary has asked his department to “investigate the possibility” of introducing the liquids-only Cambridge Diet for almost 8,000 benefit claimants who are obese.

    Last night the DWP distanced itself from the claims in Mr Duncan Smith’s letter.

    A source in his department said: “DWP is not looking into this.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 19, 2014 at 10:53 am

  10. Iain Duncan Smiths Employment Figures Scandal…. Finally Exposed:

    Employment figures warrant a closer look.

    The latest statistics on employment continue to show strange contradictions and anomalies (Keep rates low, says City, after earnings fail to match job surge, 18 September). While employment is up, the number “economically inactive” has also grown (8.93 million). And the number of people classified as unemployed continues to exclude those claiming universal credit and those who are part-time carers also looking for work. There continues the peculiar fact that wage growth is effectively non-existent (but, on average, people are working longer hours – up 0.3%). This has an additional impact on the large numbers of students who are supposed to repay their loans – already nearly half of loans will never be repaid.

    What exactly is confusing Mr Carney and others about the failure of wage growth? It is blindingly obvious from each successive monthly release that employers are splitting one full-time job into four separate zero-hours contracts so that instead of one person being paid a living wage, four are getting subsistence wages.

    Iain Duncan Smith is proud to announce a fall of 148,000 in the number of unemployed. He has no justification for his pride because millions of our youngsters can only get part-time, low-paid or insecure jobs.My granddaughter, whose graduation with a first I will be attending next week, has only been able to find a few hours in a retail business.

    This is what Mr Duncan Smith calls employment: with earnings so low that her rent of a single room takes more than half of her earnings. If this is a situation to be proud of, I despair. What is needed is real jobs with career prospects, not a few crumbs spread ever thinner to make the figures look good.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 19, 2014 at 11:05 am

    • It’s always a fall in unemployed figures. It’s never ‘what are these people actually doing’?

      ghost whistler

      September 19, 2014 at 11:43 am

      • I would imagine the fall in the unemployed figures is down to vulnerable people being sanctioned off the unemployment register by some unscrupulous, target-chasing shit of an adviser.

        jj joop

        September 19, 2014 at 12:02 pm

      • And if you ask them how many people are off the unemployment register because they’ve found employment and those who have been sanctioned, it’s a case of: the DWP doesn’t record that information. What a surprise!

        jj joop

        September 19, 2014 at 12:04 pm

  11. September 17, 2014

    Coalition misses universal credit target (again)

    Just a fraction of the people the government wants to move to Universal Credit have been put on the new payment system, according to new statistics from the Department for Work & Pensions (DWP).

    13,260 people have been moved onto universal credit since it began in April 2013. Of these, 11,070 were still claiming by the end of August 2014.

    This means that work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith is 986,740 short of his original target of one million people to be moved to universal credit by April 2014. IDS is also far short of his revised target of 184,000.

    A report from the Work and Pensions committee of MPs warned in April of this year that it was still not clear whether the universal credit roll-out would actually work.

    “Whilst it is right to ensure that the system works properly before extending it, there is a difference between cautious progress and a snail’s pace,” said committee chair Anne Begg MP.

    “Given the excruciatingly slow pace of roll-out to date, it is hard to see how the most recent implementation timetable can be met,” she added.

    Given today’s figures from the DWP, the roll-out of universal credit doesn’t appear to have significantly picked up the pace.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 19, 2014 at 11:16 am

    • This comes as no surprise. The DWP are using a piece of software called “Agile” to deliver this package. The problem is that it’s too fucking agile by far to deal with the UC beast. Consequence: massive failure.


      September 19, 2014 at 11:24 am

  12. A letter someone received from the jobcentre.

    Supervised jobsearch pilot, extra help to get people back to work.

    Supervised jobsearch is a new pilot scheme in your area, to help people search and apply for jobs, if your selected for the scheme, it will give you the help and support to look for work.

    Support on the scheme includes:
    Search for jobs
    Writing covering letters and CV’S
    Improving your job applications
    Interview techniques

    The scheme is also designed to help you with other general skills, such as timekeeping, and, if you’ve been out of work for a while, with getting back into the routine of a working day.

    The tasks you’ll do as part of the scheme will be designed to suit your individual needs.

    Who can take part?

    If your work coach thinks your need extra support to find a job and has identified you as someone suitable to take part in it, they may refer you to the supervised jobsearch pilot.

    If you’ve not been on the work programme, you may be referred to supervised jobsearch from week 20 to week 38 of your jobseekers claim.

    If you have completed the work programme and have continued to get jobcentre support for at least 26 weeks from completion of the work programme, you may be referred to supervised jobsearch.

    How does it work?

    If you are referred, your work coach will give you an appointment letter to meet your “provider” (our term for the organization that will run your supervised jobsearch

    At your first meeting, the provider will explain more about supervised jobsearch and make it clear what is expected of you, they will assess your skills and experience to find out how ready you are for work, they will also discuss any additional support you may need, you will get help to write and agree an action plan, which will be reviewed and updated frequently.

    After the assessment, your provider will give you 13 weeks of jobsearch supervision, for up to 35 hours a week from Monday to Friday at their premises, you can expect to:

    Search for jobs in a helpful and supportive setting.
    Agree with your provider what help you need to get ready to find work.
    Get advice on how to improve your chances of getting a job.
    Learn skills like good timekeeping, attendance and keeping a routine.

    When your provider needs you to do anything, like attend an interview or complete jobsearch tasks, they will give you a letter explaining exactly what it is you must do.

    Do I have to take part?

    Yes, if you are referred to supervised jobsearch, you must attend every day and take part for the full 13 weeks, if you do not do this, without good reason, your benefit will be sanctioned.

    If you have any concerns or questions on why you may be selected for this support, your suitability for this scheme or if you think this scheme is not for you, you should discuss this with your work coach.

    What happens if I don’t take part or refuse to do everything I should?

    If you take part fully in supervised jobsearch, your jobseekers allowance will be stpped for

    4 weeks, if it’s the first time you didn’t fully take part, or
    13 weeks, if you havn’t fully taken part more than once.

    The provider can ask you to apply for jobs and go to job interviews, if you don’t do this without good reason, your jobseekers allowance (and national insurance contributions will be stopped for:

    13 weeks, if it’s the first time you didn’t fully take part
    26 weeks, if it’s the second time, and
    156 weeks, if you do not fully take part three or more times.

    Will I still need to attend jobcentre meetings?

    Yes, you will still have to sign on, and attend any other meetings at the jobcentre, the jobcentre will take into account your are participating in the supervised jobsearch scheme, your provider will also be aware of your obligation to sign on and attend appointments at the jobcentre.


    September 19, 2014 at 1:29 pm

  13. enigma:

    “If you take part fully in supervised jobsearch, your jobseekers allowance will be stpped for”

    4 weeks, if it’s the first time you didn’t fully take part, or
    13 weeks, if you havn’t fully taken part more than once.

    I take it you meant, “If you don’t take part fully”?

    sidekick simon

    September 19, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    • And if it’s down to your work coach to decide if you need this extra support, I think some of us have had it.

      sidekick simon

      September 19, 2014 at 1:46 pm

      • I’ve had it, for sure. My adviser can’t stand the sight of me. Every time I go in to the Jobcentre (interview or sign), I play dodge the sanction.

        jj joop

        September 19, 2014 at 1:51 pm

  14. yes The letter states “if you don’t take part fully”


    September 19, 2014 at 1:52 pm

  15. but more than once, -13 weeks


    September 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm

  16. as the letter states, it won’t be held the jobcentre, but will be at some provider.


    September 19, 2014 at 1:58 pm

  17. DID YOU KNOW ?

    Now if you were or are silly enough to sign away your rights to allow a provider to process your personal and or sensitive data all because you believe, using your lawful right to abstain contradicts the terms of fully participating then consider this,

    It doesn’t include all the fellow claimants sitting next to you or passing by to say go to the toilet for instance who can openly view it.

    Unless your in a box area covered on 3 sides (left ,right and behind) they cannot possibly state they can protect your lawful right in connection to the protection of said data.

    They also cannot guarantee you total protection while online either.

    If you use the supplied system at all without taking this into account you have just given whats known as IMPLIED CONSENT and the same goes with leaving the paperwork blank that the provider will try and force you to sign on your first meeting with them.

    To demonstrate how easy it is to trick people into implied consent, just look at every other claimant who holds a universal jobmatch account because thats how they all and I do mean all got conned into consenting as the registration process has nowhere on it for the data subject to express their legal right to abstain, not even a phone number.


    (Please remember that your not saying you wont attend, your not saying you wont look for work, you are merely saying you will not as is your lawful right be parting with any personal and or sensitive data to the office your at or on any system they own. DWP and not you chose to make this activity 35 hours so basically if they DONT give you time to visit a PC off site/premises where you feel is secure to send such data then it is their fault when your evidence only demonstrates the activity of looking only bar any written applicaptions).

    How you use this information is up for the individual to decide


    September 19, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    • what will they do if you refuse to sign there work plan or whatever it is they call it, will they sanction you?

      sidekick simon

      September 19, 2014 at 3:29 pm

      • Your not legally obliged to sign anything but DO REMEMBER to be eligible for benefit you MUST BE THE FOLLOWING

        Available for work and,

        Actively seeking work.

        Whether a claimant is placed with a provider for the 35 hour search or not, you will find as claimants agreements are replaced with the claimant commitment that the evidence you then supply will nolonger be about so many points/applications you perform but how long you search for work which is set at 35 hours a week. So basically all claimants will end up having to produce evidence to support this shift.


        September 20, 2014 at 4:56 am

    • Can I abstain from using the provider’s IADs to do a job search?

      jj joop

      September 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm

      • As I said, IF IT INVOLVES YOU parting with personal and or sensitive data, YES YOU CAN but do remember just looking at vacancies doesn’t involve this so in that instance I would imagine you would likely be cited for failure to participate.


        September 20, 2014 at 5:02 am

  18. While I’ve no intention of signing any of their paperwork or applying for jobs at the their office (I’ll use my PC at home), are you suggesting that we don’t even have to use the provider’s computers to do a job search?


    September 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    • Read my answer to jj joop above.

      It all depends what their asking you to do on it and whether or not you sign for the specific PC be it on a piece of paper or via the computers screen.

      Under the data protection act personal data is defined as “any 2 pieces of information that identify you as you”.

      If say you signed a bit of paper for a said specific PC and the provider then recorded all that happened on the PC in question, this would link the data even if non personal with you and thus making it PERSONAL DATA.

      If now you didn’t sign anything and say just looked at jobs but didn’t apply be it through a site account, email account then it is NOT considered as PERSONAL DATA.

      Does this help?


      September 20, 2014 at 5:19 am

  19. The letter was sent to someone in Bognor Regis, I think everyone on jobseekers allowance will be sent a letter same as above, weather they have been unemployed for 10 years or even have worked this year. as one person I know has been unemployed for more than 4 years, another person has worked this year and both have received these letters.


    September 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    • An addition to the JSA act I posted a while back here and UC stipulate evidence is to be about how much time you spend searching for work and not like under the old jsa act, how many things you do or apply for.

      This will once fully rolled out, become the norm for all claimants.

      Claimants need to consider the actual sentence of,


      You see I could say declare walking to my provider is actively seeking work as I am going to them to seek work am I not. I could go further and no I am not advising claimants to do this but I could take the P and say get on a train and go to London and use a computer their and lets say the journey takes 2 hours meaning 4 hours a day on the train forms a part of my,



      September 20, 2014 at 5:29 am

  20. You don’t have to use their computers, the only ones who will have to is those who do not have a computer or other device.


    September 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm

  21. unless they have a very good reason for not attending, as the letter states.


    September 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm

  22. Both of those two people I mentioned (were sent a letter) do not have their own computers.


    September 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    • I do have my own computer. Are they singling out claimants who have previously stated that they don’t have access to the internet at home?

      jj joop

      September 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      • I guess your off the hook!


        September 19, 2014 at 7:28 pm

      • It seems some people have received the same letter about the supervised jobsearch who do have their own computers at home.


        September 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm

  23. So the best thing you can do is to get your own computer or other device. and do what super ted stated earlier.


    September 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    • Oh crap. I don’t have a computer, I use the library.

      sidekick simon

      September 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm

      • Think of a very good reason then! why you won’t or can’t attend.


        September 19, 2014 at 3:50 pm

  24. It seems they are targeting those who they know haven’t got computers


    September 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    • I’m not so sure. I told my advisor earlier this year I have a PC and home internet access, yet I got one of these letters (the supervised jobsearch scheme) too.

      I’m actually due to see my advisor next Friday. Fortunately my advisor is one of the better ones and had always been fair with me before. Fingers crossed she’s reasonable this coming Friday…

      Samwise Gamgee

      September 20, 2014 at 12:40 pm

      • So we know now that it won’t matter if we have a computer or not, as I stated in a previous message “everyone on jobseekers allowance will receive a letter about it sooner or later, no matter if you have worked most of your life.


        September 20, 2014 at 1:35 pm

      • That’s true enigma, but the wording of the letter strongly suggests the decision to send someone to the 35 hour p/week scheme is up to the advisor. Bearing that in mind I would guess if someone is able to demonstrate an ability and willingness to conduct a diligent, thorough jobsearch in their own home (and have the facilities to do that i.e. a home PC and broadband) they may well escape the horrors of supervised jobsearch.

        That’s my (very optimistic) guess anyway, and I’m hoping my advisor will accept that by having my own PC and broadband I would not benefit in any way from this new scheme.

        Well here’s hoping!

        Samwise Gamgee

        September 20, 2014 at 4:06 pm

      • Someone on here has received the same letter about the supervised jobsearch, that person has got a computer and on line at home which the jobcentre knows, so it seems it doesn’t matter if one has a computer or not, but as you said, we can all hope that if we have our own computer we will be left out of it.


        September 20, 2014 at 4:35 pm

  25. Then think of a very good reason as to why you won’t or can’t attend!


    September 19, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    • Any suggestions, I’m desperate.

      sidekick simon

      September 19, 2014 at 4:00 pm

      • I guess someone on here will come up with a great idea to stop them being on the 35 jobsearch. let me think!


        September 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      • Has super ted got the answer?!


        September 19, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      • Well the obvious solution would be to tell them you do have a computer, even if you don’t. Simples.

        jj joop

        September 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm

      • That’s one good solution!


        September 19, 2014 at 6:31 pm

      • turn up with your own computer/phone refuse to sign anything or use there equipment as you dont have to and do not sign there data waver and there done.

        i have done the same with the wp mwa and all the other shit holes they have sent me too over the last 5 years and have not had to stay and do any off it.

        because i can empty the place faster than they can fill it and they know it so out the door i go every single time.

        then get a sanction doubt for non attendance and won every singe time.

        super ted

        September 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm

      • Here’s a corker reason:

        If you have ever had your hours reduced in the past when attending any type of course from the JCP ( i.e. New Deal, MWA, Employability Courses etc), then you are entitled to get your hours reduced again.


        Let’s say you went on the 13 week New Deal Programme and had a health condition such as a bad back, you could get your hours reduced from 30 per week to 16 per week.

        This still stands and the JCP have to grant you this.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        September 20, 2014 at 9:21 am

  26. This is interesting, if probably wishful thinking,

    “Fri, 19/09/2014

    Could Scotland’s ‘No’ vote lead to the end of the Work Programme?

    The people of Scotland have spoken, and they believe we are better together after all.

    The dust hasn’t settled on this historic vote, but the win for ‘no’ was gained by English politicians entering the fray at the last minute and promising more powers for the region.

    Realising that they have to head off potential Welsh and Northern Irish nationalism if they want the UK to remain a single entity, and answer charges of London-centric policy making from English regions, all parties agree that powers need to be devolved.

    One of the areas proposed for transfer is unemployment services, which is where it gets interesting for us.

    The coalition has overseen a radical transformation in the experiences and incomes of unemployed people, with a massive deterioration in the support they are given by jobcentres, the Work Programme, and other support schemes, the failure of the much-vaunted youth contract, and poverty-level standards of living as benefits are cut and capped.

    The Work Programme is the government’s flagship, but its poor performance particularly in supporting those who have barriers should have seen radical changes, and the fact that these haven’t been made reinforces the contempt the coalition has for workless people.

    The same can be said of the jobcentre system. An insider blew the whistle to us recently, telling us that because of sanctions targets, poor management and budget cuts, they now do more harm than good to workless people’s prospects.

    A major transfer of powers to the UK’s regions should be seen as a big opportunity in this context and could see much more diversity in provision to unemployed people.

    By putting so many eggs in the baskets of the Work Programme and jobcentres, the coalition has exposed itself to too much risk when they failed.

    It also lacks a framework to pilot different, and potentially better, support, although this is as much to do with the funding problems caused by austerity and bad top-down attitudes by ministers as any lack of ideas.

    Allowing individual territories within the UK to deliver their own projects as part of a wider shift of responsibility for lowering unemployment would enable a range of different support options, which could then be delivered elsewhere if they were shown to be successful.

    This could also provide more tailored approaches to the needs of local areas, allowing for example sector-specific training to become more widespread and accessible to unemployed people.

    It is our belief that the main reasons why people fall into long-term unemployment are a lack of skills, a lack of job opportunities, and a lack of confidence and other soft skills.

    We have seen little evidence of a general disinterest in work, ‘dependence’ on benefits, and low morality despite these appearing to be the Tories’ beliefs.

    The party projects these ideas through the Work Programme and jobcentres, leading to ever-more punishing regimes, and then apparent mistification as to why these services do so badly.

    Different approaches would show up this ideology of contempt for the debilitating nonsense it is; if two neighbouring regions try alternative support systems and one demonstrates far greater success in getting people in to work, it will be impossible to continue the damaging status quo anywhere in the face of this evidence.

    The issue of public sector involvement in job creation would also surely be opened up, a vital tool which the coalition has roundly ignored.

    All major party leaders have promised to spread power more widely as a result of the Scottish vote.

    It must be hoped that this provides an opportunity to start dismantling the machinery of unemployed oppression across the whole UK.”


    Andrew Coates

    September 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    • It sure is nonsense, if it works out it will be a relief for a lot of people.


      September 19, 2014 at 7:02 pm

  27. The main barrier a lot of people face in finding employment is that there are too many people chasing a finite number of vacancies and our old friend, discrimination. People are being unfairly discriminated against because of their age, gender and a perceived disability. Just because you’re in a wheelchair or deaf doesn’t mean you should be ruled out of the jobs market.

    jj joop

    September 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm

  28. Yes, and not enough jobs, too many people. nationality too.


    September 19, 2014 at 4:19 pm

  29. Sorry from the letter is also-

    Providers will pay your costs for travel, child care, replacement care for an adult, and any extra support costs while your taking part in the supervised jobsearch.


    September 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm

  30. overheard a conversation between two jobcentre staff,mentioning there aren’t many people now on the work programme,the other their not referring them.


    September 19, 2014 at 8:58 pm

  31. I believe although its to early to say that the government will phase WP out and replace it with CAP (6 month community placement) and 35 hour jobsearch for 6 months, year in, year out for all.

    What claimants NEED to do is limit the funds a provider can draw from as they wont keep you on the books if they cant make a penny out of you.

    By say abstaining their right to transfer your personal details to a third party (forms a part of processing under the legal definition within DPA) would mean they couldn’t apply for funds without breaching DPA.


    September 20, 2014 at 5:36 am

  32. Referring to the letter as it states the supervised jobsearch will be at a provider, some people will be in jobcentres doing the scheme as we know some privacy booths etc are removed and in place are a line up of computers. while other people will do the scheme elsewhere.


    September 20, 2014 at 1:43 pm

  33. Will this apply to the 35 hour supervised job search as well?

    Part 3: Collection and retention of my personal data

    Customer Consent to Sharing/Disclosure of Personal Information

    “Providers are reminded that they are required to obtain customer consent prior to their collecting of customer’s personal information and sharing/disclosure of such information with the Department [DWP/Jobcentre] and/or other providers.

    These consents must be given by the customer before any information disclosure takes place.

    Your organisation needs to make it clear to customers that giving consent is voluntary and that refusal to give consent or withdrawal of an existing consent will not affect any benefit they may be entitled to.”
    From: The Generic Provider Guidance – Chapter 5


    sidekick simon

    September 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    • Whatever they tell you to do, always ask them to put it in writing. Their response should be interesting to gauge. If they won’t do this or try and talk you away, then you’ll know it isn’t strictly legal. And if the DWP threaten you with a sanction, ask them to put it in writing as well.

      Huggy Bear

      September 20, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    • I was on the Work Programme. Initially I complied by signing their Work Plans but after a falling out with my adviser, I declined to sign the plan at my monthly review. He threatened to have me sanctioned by the Jobcentre but nothing ever came of it. The last seven months I was on the WP, I didn’t sign anything – nothing happened. No sanction, no nothing. I never, ever, signed the data protection waiver.

      Huggy Bear

      September 20, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    • Thanks for that link, good info


      September 20, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    • Even the 35 hour jobsearch has to comply as its the law, sidekick simon.

      The gaining and processing of any personal and or sensitive data must comply with the various acts like the data protection act. This is why businesses try to consolidate a deal in the first instance rather than secure it every other day. What they wont inform you of however, is your legal rights as the data subject.

      And proof of that is, ” when was the last time you ever saw a data protection pamphlet at the dole office, like you do with the freedom of information one”?


      September 20, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    • Sorry. This should have been the chapter 5 Evidencing/Validating Payments-Job
      Outcomes and Sustained Job Outcomes link.


      sidekick simon

      September 20, 2014 at 7:38 pm

  34. Claimant Segmentation Survey – The facts & your rights.

    Full facts and the actual test itself.


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 3, 2014 at 10:23 am

    • “customer segmentation” is a phrase often used in the banking industry. We have all sort of Customer Segmentation Planning Managers 🙂


      October 3, 2014 at 10:26 am

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    Carl Lawrence

    April 29, 2015 at 10:38 am

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