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Sanctions, Destitution and Food Banks.

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In a heart-warming tale we learn this week that,

Foodbanks in South Yorkshire are forging better links with local businesses to help them feed the rising number of hungry families using their services.

Andy Niblock, who works at the Sheffield S6 foodbank based at St Thomas’ Church on Gilpin Street, near Shalesmoor, said they were having to feed more and more hungry mouths.

He said: “There is an ongoing increase in the number of referrals from people with food vouchers wanting to use the foodbank.

“We have partnerships with supermarkets and get very generous donations from lots of people like neighbours, families, schools and churches.”

Companies across South Yorkshire are stepping in to help out foodbanks.

The Star.

In a less heart-warming story we hear that,

A vulnerable 60-year-old has been left penniless and dependent on food bank support after his Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) was sanctioned at the end of July while on the Work Programme. South-east Londoner James Dearsley received a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions (below) telling him that he had been sanctioned from July 29 and that his JSA would not be reinstated until October 29. James, who is already in arrears with his council tax, has spent more than three weeks without social security. This withdrawal of money means that he’s already been forced to use Greenwich food bank twice.

From ANN MCGAURAN

 As Johnny Void says,

Understandably much of the rage against the vicious welfare reforms –  which are costing an increasing number of lives – has been aimed at blundering fucking idiot Iain Duncan Smith.

But it is David Cameron who has cheered along whilst the DWP has spent billions driving the poorest people in the country into destitution.  It is David Cameron who has been in charge whilst hundreds of hungry families have queued at foodbanks, or disabled people have been driven from their homes due to the Bedroom Tax.  And it is David Cameron who is ultimately responsible for the deaths of David Clapson, Stephanie Bottrill, Victor CuffJacqueling Harrisand all of those driven to ill health and suicide by his Government’s callous devastation of the social security safety net.

No amount of cockle-warming tales from charitable Business is going to change that.

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  1. NO matter how many stories i hear about people being sanctioned and left with nothing, each new account leaves me just as angry and disgusted as the last. This will never stop being appalling. I hope this man is able to sort this out.

    ghost whistler

    August 28, 2014 at 12:05 pm

  2. Clearly, despite their denials, JCP staff must have sanction targets to hit. Because I notice, it always seem to be vulnerable people who are being sanctioned.

    jj joop

    August 28, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    • I was talking to somebody only yesterday about this and he says (from very very close sources) that it does indeed still go on.

      Andrew Coates

      August 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm

  3. There is a tactic which can be tried and would seriously embarrass the government if anyone pulled it off. If you have no money at all, why not claim you are an asylum seeker? They don’t get much, but it’s better than nothing. Asylum seekers are not allowed to work, so there is no grounds for sanctioning them. Were it to become public knowledge that British people were being treated worse than asylum seekers and were falsely claiming asylum in order to escape starvation, it would play well with the right wing press,

    Anton

    August 28, 2014 at 2:12 pm

  4. DWP chain of processes followed before sanctions:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/dwp_chain_of_processes_followed#incoming-555205

    They don’t believe in making it complicated or long-winded that’s for sure!

    jj joop

    August 28, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    • Nice one jj joop, best laugh ive had all day.

      gaia

      August 28, 2014 at 7:43 pm

  5. Twisting my bones until they snap
    I scream but no one knows
    Feels like community work programme

    The jobcentre wanted all I had to give
    You see me sanctioned, you see me destitute
    Feels like community work programme…

    Fiction Factory

    August 28, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    • I paly on words their fiction factory, very befitting.

      gaia

      August 28, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    • 🙂

      Fiction Factory Plus

      August 30, 2014 at 7:06 pm

  6. I’ve already got ripped tendons in my arm, a suspected slip disk, really painful knees and problems with the ball of my foot and I have been that fucking community work programme shite less than a week!

    CWP is fucking BRUTAL!!

    August 28, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    • Yeh but I bet your still pass a ATOS assessment?

      Its funny how life isn’t just 4 stair steps and so many yards once in a single day, don’t you think?

      Lets not worry about the fact you’ve got to come back down and up them at least 8 times in any one day, we wont worry about the fact that no one has a bus stop directly out side their work let alone home and finally lets not worry about the other 364 days of the year.

      Its as barmy as a drug councillor who says they know all about drug addiction yet has never been a registered addict a day in their life themselves and don’t get me started about health and safety people as seriously how can you profess care and wellbeing with reasonably practicable in the same regulation sentence.

      gaia

      August 28, 2014 at 7:59 pm

  7. id not be surprised if the jcp turned off all the lifts then sanction ppl for not attending there interview.

    super ted

    August 28, 2014 at 8:07 pm

  8. HOW LONG IS A PIECE OF STRING?

    Interesting comment, Gaia, about how life isn’t just 4 stair steps and so many yards!

    Here is yet another ludicrous case where a double leg amputee has been refused a “blue badge” for disabled parking, because, wait for it, he can walk over 20 yards – with the help of crutches and assistance at that!:

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/double-leg-amputee-is-denied-blue-badge.25168680

    Tobanem

    August 29, 2014 at 8:27 am

  9. Anyone who is threatened with unpaid work should contact the website below:

    https://modernslavery.co.uk/report-it.html

    Landless Peasant

    August 29, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    • Landless Peasant, Community Work Placements are more like “Forced or Compulsory Labour” rather than slavery.

      Mind you, I like the part of the report in your link which says “if you are an employer and want to learn more about how to spot the signs of slavery and how to lower the risks, click here. Employers are then advised thus:

      “ADVICE FOR EMPLOYERS

      Whether you are an employer, manager or colleague, you have a responsibility to ensure that your employees and colleagues are safeguarded.

      Small businesses through to multi-national companies could be implicated in instances of exploitation and human trafficking if they do not make the necessary checks or take appropriate precautions. Thoroughly checking supply chains and recruitment agencies will ensure that the potential for human trafficking to occur is significantly reduced”.

      If Community Work Placements are not exploitation of the poor, what are they?

      https://modernslavery.co.uk/advice.html

      Tobanem

      August 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm

      • You know if you all read the ILO I posted a while ago I doubt any of you would have put all this in the context you did and this is precisely what I meant when I said people need to learn a thing or two. The biggest insult to this of course is that the both of you are as sharp as a tack usually so please imagine my surprize.

        The sole reason WHY community work placements are not seen as FORCED is because a international gathering which convened a long while ago agreed that any labour that benefits the COMMUNITY is not to be viewed as slavery.

        That said if your toiling away the hours stacking shelves in poundland I would hardly call that serving the COMMUNITY. So to borrow your earlier phrase Tobanem, “How long is a piece of string” when we start considering what serving the COMMUNITY actually means and how easy it is to put the wordplay spin on it.

        Work placements are completely un functional if their not going to yield results beyond making DWPs and these providers lives easy what with not having us in front of them to help us into work while at the very same time making one wonder what on earth we are paying these people for in the first place. Taking just the providers essentially the taxpayer is giving them money for literally nothing, you could even say their a benefit claimant with a licence not to have a claimant commitment and so do everything this government accuses the unemployed of.

        Maybe all the unemployed should visit whoever it is that helps claimants set up a business as im sure they would like to start a business as a provider so they can continue to do what the government accuses them of.

        Like I’ve said a million times, short term goals DONT WORK if you are unable or unwilling to see the road ahead like for instance how tougher sanctions, assessments on the ill or injured, benefit caps and so many more dysfunctional schemes have merely transferred and increased cost when we consider shoplifting food is way up and hospital cases have risen as a result of malnutrition.

        gaia

        August 30, 2014 at 3:48 pm

  10. I would advise anyone forced into unpaid work against their will to refuse to comply and turn to crime to survive instead. If you do attend any unpaid work then please cause as much mayhem, disruption, and destruction as possible.

    Landless Peasant

    August 29, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    • With all due respect, Landless Peasant, you are talking shit. You say turn to crime. What do you mean by ‘crime’?: shop-lifting, street robbery, bank robbery, smashing old ladies over the head with a brick for their pension money? A short term solution for disastrous long-term consequences. Because let’s face it, Landless Peasant, anyone with a criminal record (no matter how) minor is UNEMPLOYABLE in the eyes of the vast, vast majority of employers. You have to look at things from OTHER PEOPLES’ perceptive Landless Peasant. Anyone daft enough to take up YOUR ill-conceived, reckless thoughtless suggestion would be CONDEMNING themselves to possibly a LIFE-TIME of UNEMPLOYMENT the obvious consequence of which would be no escape from these forced labour schemes. As to your other suggestion of causing “mayhem, disruption, and destruction” whilst on these schemes this is just more airy-fairy, head-in-the-clouds thinking with not even a passing nod to reality; this is not the way things work on the ground.

      And finally, I am seriously pissed of with (intentional or otherwise) arseholes such as yourself posting this “turn to crime shite” on these forums. Get to fuck with it – seriously! Some immature or naive person could act on these daft suggestions of yours and others with disastrous consequences.

      Laura H

      August 29, 2014 at 5:40 pm

      • No offence Laura H and while I do see your point and its merits, you are aware you just committed a crime yourself the moment you started swearing online?

        This said I would say whether one breaks the law is really a matter for the individual as honestly why slug away trying to get a job you cant get while under a already existing brutal and inhuman regime when you can say grow pot for instance.
        Yes its illegal but in fairness, it isn’t hurting anyone except the taxpayer whos dumb enough to believe the clap trap our government spins, especially when a few countries already prop up their GDP up on it, not to mention the good old USA has jumped on the band wagon also lately.

        Then theirs data mining as im sure your one of those people who to coin a phrase im sick and tired of hearing, “if you have nothing to hide”, then you wont mind me data mining the crap out of you every time you go online and profit from it while you receive NOTHING will you?

        Lastly all things being equal what are you going to do when you still don’t have a job and get sanctioned as going by the numbers a claimant has almost a 2 to 1 chance of being sanctioned at one point or another while claiming benefit, when foodbanks can no longer fund themselves so shut down as people get more and more broke and so less understandably, charitable ?

        Are you just going to lay down and die like a good claimant, of course your not, so don’t say you shouldn’t when one day you just might have to.

        gaia

        August 30, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    • Landless Peasant and Laura H

      Yes, wilfully turning to crime is not a good idea. Crime does not pay.

      It would be better instead to challenge Community Work Placements as “Forced or Compulsory Labour” – itself now a crime. Let’s see how far you get with that suggestion. You would need to report the matter to the police, so I don’t suppose you would get very far if you had a criminal record yourself!

      It is utter hypocrisy for the Home Office to advise employers to look out for signs of “slavery and servitude”, when some employers are using the unemployed on Community Work Placements.

      Remember, “Forced or Compulsory Labour” is defined as:

      “All work or service which is exacted from any person under the menace of any penalty and for which the said person has not offered himself/herself voluntarily”.

      Tobanem

      August 30, 2014 at 7:35 am

      • Ah, but the Jobcentre will twist it to: “of course if you *choose* not to *participate* your benefits *may* be affected”, so the the menace/penatly (sanction) is applied by virtue of the jobseeker wilfully “choosing” not to “participate”.

        Newspeak

        August 30, 2014 at 10:08 am

      • I think the banking sector, the most wealthy, the police and ministers might disagree with you their as they have never been to prison yet perpetrate criminal acts everyday.

        gaia

        August 30, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      • Newspeak, while DWP and provider will always try to wring out a cloth already wrung the participation part could be avoided if the claimant DOES NOT SIGN A STICH OF PAPERWORK THAT REQUIRES LAWFUL CONSENT.

        For a start if the claimant doesn’t sign the data protection/privacy policy, the placement employer cannot legally talk to their respective provider without instantly becoming guilty of an ICO breach which the claimant should make these placement employers aware of.

        Then theirs all the bits that if not signed this placements employers cant get you covered under business insurance let alone adherence to regulation.

        gaia

        August 30, 2014 at 5:05 pm

      • But, Gaia there is a HUGE difference between PETTY criminals, you know the ones who get caught for petty crimes like shoplifting a loaf of bread cos they would rather do that than MWA and who end up wasting their lives festering in shit-hole prisons and the REAL criminals like bankers, politicians, businesspeople and lawyers who always seem to get off Scot Free. Crime DOES pay if you are of the ‘right stuff’ and have the right connections but for petty crooks from the ‘lower classes’ it is a one-way street to Loserville (one mile outside of Luck). Low level crime is a mug’s game! Don’t try and conflate the two, Gaia, it is disingenuous of you – you should know better especially being an “ex-con” and all lol 🙂 !

        Big Country

        August 30, 2014 at 6:35 pm

      • Should have added the police to that list – they are the biggest bunch of crooks going!

        Big Country

        August 30, 2014 at 6:37 pm

      • As they say, Gaia criminals from the lower classes go to prison, criminals from the middle classes become lawyers and criminals from the upper class become politicians! You should know, Gaia – after all you once shared a cell with Charles Bronson – Britain’s Most Violent Prisoner lol 🙂

        Big Country

        August 30, 2014 at 6:40 pm

      • This is NOT TRUE, Gaia!! If a claimant DOES NO SIGN the provider Data Protection/Privacy policy, in fact if the claimant does to sign ANY provider paperwork they will STILL be sent on placement. What you are saying may be ‘technically’ true but these fuckers just skate right over the DPA. They ARE GUILTY of ICO breaches but how are they ever going to be held responsible for it?

        Apple Pie

        August 30, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      • “Then theirs all the bits that if not signed this placements employers cant get you covered under business insurance let alone adherence to regulation.” – but a lot of this is going to come on when a claimant is ALREADY on placement. So they have to deal with the Big Bad Boss of Scumbags R Us Inc. Claimants have to deal with situations as they arise; it is all well and good pontificating on a website from the comfort of your front room where you don’t have to deal with reality.

        Apple Pie

        August 30, 2014 at 6:55 pm

      • ap i have not signed anything from providers for years now and i have not had to do any off it work programmer inc and post wp as well.

        i have won every sanction doubt they threw at me and one them all and even had warning letters about my behavior at the jcp as they dont like it when i stand up to all there bs as i read all there rules and tool kits and throw it right back at them.

        ive done such a good job at pissing off the advisers i no longer have one as they cant find any way to sanction me anymore and for now have totally given up even trying it.

        super ted

        August 30, 2014 at 7:08 pm

      • Crime is crime big country, no use splitting hairs.

        It always makes me laugh when people say “your end up in prison” as usually that means they who said it probably never have. So are reflecting their fears on others.

        (if you cant do the time, don’t do the crime)

        I hate to point out the obvious but no one goes out committing crime expecting to get caught, sure theirs risks, risks obviously willingly taken hence the growing criminal prison population.

        At the end of the day like I said in the earlier post, “its a matter for the individual to decide” as however well intentioned or not land peasants post may be, you can believe me that it will cut no ice with the judge IF and only IF you get caught.

        “Since November 2004, police have been able to deal with shoplifting cases up to the value of £200 with on-the-spot fines. Just over 14,000 fines were issued in the first nine months of 2005”. (BBC news)

        LEE MARTIN CHUGG, aged 29, of Winchester Gardens, Whitleigh, Plymouth: Possession of heroin, shoplifting, breach of conditional discharge – sent to prison for six months.

        JOHN DUNLOP, aged 39, of Embankment Road, Plymouth: Shoplifting – sent to prison for 21 days.

        DANIEL PETER ROBINS, aged 32, of Marine Cottages, Breakwater Hill, Coxside, Plymouth: Shoplifting, breach of conditional discharge – 12 months supervision order, six-month drug rehabilitation requirement.

        SAMANTHA VIPOND, aged 40, of Maker View, Plymouth: Shoplifting – 12-month conditional discharge.

        MARTIN BATES, aged 45, of Holmes Avenue, Efford, Plymouth: Shoplifting – 12-month conditional discharge, to pay £6.87 compensation.

        SCOTT DAVEY, aged 29, of Efford Road, Plymouth: Theft of two ladies handbags – 12-month conditional discharge, to pay £99.99 compensation and £60 compensation.

        That’s just some who have shoplifted but even the other crimes listed demonstrate the authorities don’t tend to imprison people at the drop of a hat but It appears at worst its just 6 months inside from what I can find.

        http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Magistrates-Court-week/story-12692515-detail/story.html

        THOMAS HODGE, aged 38, of Park Avenue, Plymouth: theft from a shop – ordered to pay £65 compensation.

        ANTHONY INMAN, aged 35, of Octagon Street, Plymouth: theft of a jacket and computer cable – 12-month community order under probation supervision with education, training and employment course, ordered to pay £50 costs and £60 victim surcharge.

        (just to demonstrate the punishment hasn’t changed)

        http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Cases-appeared-Plymouth-magistrates-court/story-22848762-detail/story.html

        So taking the fact its hardly likely to be the first time they have shoplifted meaning they get caught once in every 20 shoplifts say, on the balance of things even if I did take on-board your petty crime theory then even here crime has infact PAID.

        gaia

        August 31, 2014 at 9:34 am

      • Hi applepie

        Yes they will but only if you aren’t aware of it. Todate I have had both JCP and my old WP provider (separate cases) on DPA breaches so its not like im just talking law.

        Again like to or not to commit crime, its a matter for the individual to decide to grab the bull by the legal horns as all it took was an email and a few phone calls in both cases.

        You need to realise this skating over is your actual evidence and the nail in their coffins.

        gaia

        August 31, 2014 at 9:46 am

      • In your hurry to “glamorise” (petty) crime and encourage other to sample “inside life” you keep missing the point, Gaia: that nobody should be in the position whereby they are forced to commit (petty) crimes just in order to survive. Why can’t we all have a reasonable income which provides a decent standard of living? – now there’s an idea! Why have your character blighted over £6.48 worth of goods? You can bet your bottom dollar that everyone of those sad cases – and they are sad, you can almost picture the human train-wrecks behind them – that you listed the perpetrator is unemployed, more likely unemployable; and all over £6.48 worth of goods which in the grand scheme of things is a drop in the ocean.

        The Prisoner

        September 1, 2014 at 12:14 am

    • Right on, Landless Peasant, right on!

      jj joop

      August 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm

      • anyway want to buy a car radio…. it’s got stereo fm on it?

        Criminal

        August 30, 2014 at 2:14 pm

  11. I was so happy to find a job that was supposed to be long term and started in June unfortunately my employer lost her job in July so I’ve had to go back to the work programme which is making me ill with stress and worry and are really no help to me at all. The new advisor that I have been put with is arrogant and makes it clear that he’s not interested in anything I’m doing to find work. He gave me a work plan that was impossible to follow and when I pointed it out he said he’d printed an old one with the wrong date on it.

    I live in constant fear that I will get set up and sanctioned and like the 60 year old man in the above article I would be destitute. I’m becoming depressed and they are knocking all the confidence out of me.

    After my last session which was a nightmare I had to listen to this inadequate young man talking to the young lady on the desk about how tired he was after partying till 3 in the morning and her reply about her own wild weekend. How unprofessional is that and these idiots are given charge of other peoples lives

    I try so hard to get a job and I am not free of this programme until January 2016 and I get my pension back in March 2016. And I would gladly give up those 19 months of my life if I could wake up tomorrow and be 63 because it’s making me ill.

    Do these idiots not realise it is not a good idea to destroy jobseekers mental health if they want them to find a job. Oh I forgot they don’t give a damn!

    Carol Joyce

    August 29, 2014 at 3:38 pm

  12. The United Nations sparked fury today after launching an unprecedented inquiry into Britain’s treatment of the disabled.

    The UN Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities launched a formal probe into whether this country has committed ‘grave or systemic violations’ of the rights of disabled people.

    The investigation is the latest in a series of interventions into British domestic policy by the United Nations, which have provoked fury among ministers.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735958/UN-sparks-fury-launching-human-rights-investigation-Britain-s-treatment-disabled.html

    Hey IDS, time to panic…. I really hope the U.N. brings you to account and files formal charges against you and the coalition government as a whole.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    August 30, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    • Official U.N. investigation now underway… Thank you to all who have contributed to this happening.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      August 30, 2014 at 4:03 pm

  13. “Will check if there has been ‘grave violations’ of rights of disabled people”

    This is not correct in that daily mail article,it has started the inquiry because of warnings to the government that effective actions were not taken and has a “very high threshold” before an enquiry can begin.

    Its not surprising,excluding the atos affair,groups of people who have left the work programme and have been placed on indefinite post work programme support appear to be written off,including the disabled.
    Jobcentre advisors who are supposed to be supporting people are openly displaying aggressive unlawful behavior with the sole aim of just getting rid of claimants at all costs,by whatever means they think they can get away with.

    ‘This country has led the way in the support and rights that we give to disabled people – such as through the Disability Discrimination Act which was passed by a Conservative government in 1995.

    even more scandalous then that the uk is the first to be investigated for violations.

    ken

    August 30, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    • Ken – what part of launching an unprecedented inquiry into Britain’s treatment of the disabled, haven’t you got mate?

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      August 30, 2014 at 4:41 pm

      • Ken – the key word here is ‘unprecedented’ – a killer word for any Govt.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        August 30, 2014 at 4:46 pm

      • Will check if there has been ‘grave violations’ of rights of disabled people”

        Hi obi

        I took the quote from “that” daily mail article.which is enough for anyone to spit fire that’s been on the end of this abuse. dressed up as having some sort of legitimate case by the center of social justice.

        ken

        August 30, 2014 at 9:31 pm

  14. We see “Gaia” and her partner in crime, “Landless Peasant” are still peddling their fantastic “take to crime” lifestyle. There is a whole big wide world out there; so why not waste your one and only life sat in some damp, cold prison cell, eh Gaia, Landless Peasant? Oh, what narrow thinking. PS What a load of utter crap you pair talk.

    Bonnie & Clyde

    September 1, 2014 at 3:20 am

  15. Gaia

    If you are still around this page, let me remind you (after your comment on Community Work Placements not being classed as “Forced or Compulsory Labour” because they are deemed to benefit the Community) that working for nothing a private company is not part of a normal civic obligation. The only benefit of unwaged Community Work Placements is to private companies – not Communities!

    Nor was Jobseeker’s Allowance ever intended to be used as a substitute for a proper wage.

    So I don’t agree that Community Work Placements are not “Forced or Compulsory Labour”!

    Tobanem

    September 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm


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