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DWP accused of ‘black propaganda’ in universal credit debate

Jon Land from here.

DWP accused of 'black propaganda' in universal credit debate

DWP accused of ‘black propaganda’ in universal credit debate

Glenda Jackson has attacked the Department of Work and Pensions for embarking on a programme of “black propaganda” in a deliberate attempt to undermine the UK’s benefits system.

During a universal credit debate in the House of Commons, the Labour MP for Hampstead and Kilburn accused Iain Duncan Smith’s department of a “bunker mentality” adding that “simple humility is not part and parcel of its make-up”.

Jackson was responding to the news that civil service chief Sir Bob Kerslake had informed the Public Accounts Committee that the business case for universal credit had still not been signed off by the Treasury, despite an assurance from DWP minister Esther McVey that it had.

Glenda Jackson said: “I would hope every member of this House, would be shocked to realise that the DWP is still not giving the right answers — it is ludicrous to expect the right answer to come from the Department of Work and Pensions, as simple humility is not part and parcel of its make-up.

“The committees and government departments that scrutinise where public money goes are being pushed to one side. I have already referred to the bunker mentality of the DWP, and the example that my right hon. Friend gives me is just par for the course; it happens constantly.

“Arguments are not even being put up. We are all being told, ‘Oh no, it’s none of your business; it’s our business’. There is a pattern, which I find very disturbing. I have already touched on the issue of disregarding any serious questioning on costs. Ever since this major benefit change came into being, the Department has employed what I would call a programme of black propaganda, and every single one of the red tops has taken it up with glee and run with it.

“That black propaganda told the people of this country — I am paraphrasing; the DWP would never be this cogent — that everyone who was claiming benefits was doing so because they were too lazy to work. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have already touched on the agonies that are being endured by people with serious mental and physical disabilities, and the pattern is ongoing.

“A report from the Office for National Statistics last week scrutinised the level of complaints made against all the government departments about the misuse of statistics, and guess which one came top of the list! It was the Department for Work and Pensions. Throughout the time I have been a member of the select committee, we have raised again and again the issue of the misuse of stats and the misuse of the English language to proselytise this black propaganda and to confuse and distort what should be central to the committee’s concerns—namely, the well-being of the people who require benefits, not because they are lazy or workshy, or even because there are no jobs, but because they should be supported by the people of this country, as they always have been.

“After the last debate on this issue, I was touched to receive a response from the people of this country. If there is a silver lining to the black cloud that is the DWP, it is that the majority of people in this country still believe that the welfare state should do what it was meant to do, which is to support people who, through no fault of their own, cannot maintain themselves without the support of the rest of us. That support is alive and well out there in the country. The one place where it is certainly dead is within the Department for Work and Pensions.”

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  1. Check out this Shit

    We are looking for individuals who have the following skills and experience;

    A solid work history with no major gaps in employment
    Can provide 5 year work history references
    Will pass a basic credit check and PVG check

    A PVG (Protection of Vulnerable Groups) check, like the highest criminal record check there is for sitting on your arse in an office selling fucking insurance. These [expletive deleted] can go fuck themselves!

    Crim I Nal

    July 10, 2014 at 10:55 am

    • Well you know judging by the credit check you just know 90% of this job is sales and PVG part must mean something like health insurance. CRBs/PVGs were invented for situations where theirs physical access so this company is just exploiting the law just so they can know more than they are entitled to.

      Now im sure they will profess its all legal and above board and done so for the right reasons yet they seem to be applying the law as they see fit.
      For starters before you can even petition a person for personal and or sensitive data you have to be

      A: Registered with ICO
      B: Display clearly and prior to any processing of said data a data protection policy

      Also before you can even ask for a PVG you have to prove as a company that your eligible to.

      So I suspect unlike legal and general this firm is less than savoury in its practice and judging by a lack of any company name I would give this a wide birth.

      gaia

      July 10, 2014 at 12:13 pm

  2. There is so much of this five year references’ these days.hardly anyone has this. people move on,the work place has closed down. this,let alone those on esa who haven’t worked for years’,that includes many on jobseekers too.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/08/mentally-ill-need-help-not-bullying-by-the-state

    ken

    July 10, 2014 at 11:13 am

  3. Been to sign on this morning, all Jobcentre PCS Union members out on strike leaving around 25 advisers (at my local JCP) to deal with everyone signing on today.

    Ever heard the phrase ‘Headless Chickens’ – S.C.A.B advisers are being pushed to limit today trying to deal with everyone – needless to say it was one of the fastest sign on sessions I’ve ever had – less than three minutes from handing my card to the welcome guy to actually signing on and leaving the building.

    “Brilliant”

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    July 10, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    • Its funny you say that Obi Wan as ive had my appointment for today rearranged for that exact reason.

      gaia

      July 10, 2014 at 12:16 pm

      • Well Gaia, anyone signing on today will in effect get a free pass.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        July 10, 2014 at 12:25 pm

  4. I was notified about the potential strike at my last sign on. These scum bags get no sympathy off me after all they are the “I was only following orders brigade” when it comes to sanctions and also i have seen how workshy and incompetent the majority are at my local JCP office.

    Somewhatbitterdoley

    July 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm

  5. the staff at my jcp are so fat and lazy they wait till the nearest printer to them is free to print of there mandatory orders that they give me.

    dont even know why its called the job centre as there aint no jobs in there any more job points turned off and the computer room is not used with 4 pcs and left empty. becouse they wont let the public use there shit hole

    my last signing they said i could use the phones if i was running up my phone bill ringing employers.

    so what happens when all the phones are ripped out like most other jcp across this country?

    i cant comment on that.pmsl

    guess every one gets to sign on as fast as me today,enjoy 😉

    super ted

    July 10, 2014 at 3:40 pm

  6. Public sectors workers from a wide range of services are today holding a one-day strike to protest about government pay restraint.

    In Ipswich hundreds of workers from UNISON, Unite, the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS), NUT, and the Fire Brigades U gathered for a march through the town centre to bring attention to their call.

    Ipswich Trades Union Council chairman Harvey Crane, who is also an official with PCS, said public servants across the country were angry about the way they had been treated.

    He said: “We have had a pay freeze for four years and now we are being promised an average rise of 1%. But that is an average rise – I’m only getting half a per cent.

    “Across the region people are getting more and more angry. We are now being told that the economy is recovering, but we are not able to benefit from that recovery.”

    UNISON representative at the borough council David Rowe said public sector workers had seen their real wages fall by 20% over the last five years: “This is something that can not carry on.”

    The strike affected 59 schools across Suffolk, with 17 being closed altogether. Fire cover was affected and there was some reduction in council services in Ipswich.

    Some homes in the south east of the town did not have their rubbish collected as they were due – householders were asked to keep their bins out with the promise that they should be emptied as soon as possible.

    Streets in the town centre were being cleaned as usual, but some neighbourhoods were not getting the visit that they are due from streetcleaners.

    http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/video_public_sector_unions_strike_over_pay_and_pensions_1_3679006

    Andrew Coates

    July 10, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    • I see the government are trying to down play it unlike all the rage they displayed just the other day. I loved it when some representative of the unions said they have been logging the picket lines to count exactly how their strike effected services and GUESS WHAT

      The governments figures are yet again called INCORRECT, oh what a surprize.

      Their was one person I heard interviewed that said she couldn’t afford to give her children birthdays or holidays despite working full time, that she struggles weekly to afford utilities and food so was forced often to juggle the two. The nut cracker was when she said she has to claim working tax credits which shes eligible for as shes a low earner so how can government say shes paid enough.

      Get down to the foodbanks civil servants, teachers, fire-fighters as we wont judge you, we know only to well the struggles you face. If you do this government would be screwed after all their comments about foodbanks and that theirs no poverty in Britain, that people don’t go hungry.

      gaia

      July 10, 2014 at 5:17 pm

  7. Government are rushing laws through so they can spy on you, they say they wont yet have access if allowed to be passed to log everyone’s irrespective of whether or not the person has committed a criminal offence or terrorist act. This form of surveillance is called blanket cover and was what Edward Snowden exposed which lead to the UN striking down retention of data.

    Its amazing how first both the British and American governments denied it was happening, got found wanting and owned up to it and now the very thing they said didn’t exist, their looking the strengthen.

    Ive crawled all the news sites posts towards this news article and from what I see the public are very much against it, their was so many against their was literally only 1 or 2 post for it per ten to fifteen pages.

    The best comment I read said “Remember people, the terrorists want to destroy your freedom. In order to combat this we need to record all your communications, track you & record you wherever you go. To protect your freedom.
    hang on?

    or

    So we will have all our data stored of the very rare off-chance that some does something illegal but when politicians are accused of serious crimes their data mysteriously disappears……….us & them!

    Still feel you live in a democracy, still feel government represent to people?

    gaia

    July 10, 2014 at 5:38 pm

  8. Guess whos been called a liar yet again?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28225124

    gaia

    July 10, 2014 at 5:39 pm

  9. Not only do the tories want to tell the EU how they will govern BUT now want to rewrite the MAGNA CARTA.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28231109

    Whats next, their rewrite religion?

    gaia

    July 10, 2014 at 5:43 pm

  10. So much for crime going down. Heres a quote from Michael Spurr, chief executive of the National Offender Management Service Agency

    “”Over the last six months in particular we have struggled with some additional pressures. The population has gone up greater than anticipated, there are more remand prisoners and sex offenders than anticipated”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28233294

    gaia

    July 10, 2014 at 10:33 pm

  11. As the ‘autristy cuts’ bite deeper, and public unrest grows, of course the government want greater powers of surveillance…as they’re now running shit scared of the population

    Gil Skinner

    July 11, 2014 at 1:25 am

    • Well saying something’s white when its clearly black isn’t going to win any popularity competitions.

      Wait till inflation rises, then it will be interesting?

      gaia

      July 11, 2014 at 3:34 pm

  12. “Is IDS about to be given his marching orders?
    POSTED ON JULY 11, 2014

    There is a rumour going round this morning that David Cameron is planning a reshuffle next week and that Iain Duncan Smith will be removed as Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and replaced with Esther McVey. Is it true? Who knows. It seems to have come from an overheard conversation on a train, so could be bollocks, but I guess we’ll find out next week…”

    http://alittleecon.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/is-ids-about-to-be-given-his-marching-orders/

    Andrew Coates

    July 11, 2014 at 11:05 am

    • Like I said in a old post, Ester McVey was groomed to replace IDS so when ever it happens it will come as no surprize. I even explained why shes the one who was hen picked.

      What IDS represents in a sense is what was required during world war 2 when Churchill replaced Chamberlain, as he had a bulldog attitude and served his purpose well yet as he was no politician after war was quickly replaced. This is precisely what Cameron intended for the welfare reform, knew it would be a war of sorts so needed a bulldog so who else but IDS.
      Yet now its all beginning (I laugh when I say this bit) to flow its time a real politician took the reigns, someone who had the qualities required so again who better than a person qualified in Corporate Governance.

      It may only be a rumour, may even not happen but it is only logical she would be the suitor I feel.

      Funny how history has a tendency to repeat itself just like how the whole tory mandate echo’s the thoughts of scholars and experts as to how MAYBE the fall of the roman empire could have been POSSIBLY avoided.

      gaia

      July 11, 2014 at 3:31 pm

  13. Why are the idiots in the JC happily forcing people into unpaid work for up to 6 months, while going on strike for more pay for themselves. What would happen if the unpaid slaves went out on strike for higher benefits, or would that just prove that the work the slaves are forced to do doesn’t actually exist or need doing, especially if it’s for £nowt.

    Don’t they realise that forcing people into unpaid work is what’s forcing pay down for ALL workers in an area.

    A third of JC staff are part-time, while the JCs are understaffed, and especially now that the unpaid work should be community/council/public sector type work, don’t the idiots realise that THEY’RE NEXT.

    Another Big Mess

    July 11, 2014 at 1:22 pm

  14. Good ol’ Glenda. It’s about time someone in Labour said something/anything. Miliband is a waste of space.

    Landless Peasant

    July 11, 2014 at 4:17 pm


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